Hey.
And welcome to Unlimited
Webb, today, throughout much of
overarching policy goals first
COVID era continue to march
on the left and the right
implementation, albeit with
digital IDs and their use to
biometric control over national
surveillance and so called
creation of a new carbon pricing
to merge man with machine. The
domestic policing and much more
lockstep globally.
However many who were against
ago now seem to view them
political figures have postured
policies, but in reality, only
pitches to the public for many
also be seen on the
apparent hostilities between
comes to these same policy
likely lies in the adoption by
power blocks of United Nations
2030, and the so called
while those goals themselves are
ensuring basic rights and needs,
the Un framing itself, rather
national governments all have an
reality is really quite
today. To understand where these
the UN really serves, it is best
genesis of that organization and
several decades, joining me
the UN in the current push into
nordengard. Dr nordengard is a
who has now written seven books,
later this year in December, on
system developed and unfolded,
of the United Nations and some
and that organization's
books in other written works at
joining me today, Jacob. And
Thanks for having me.
Well, it's absolutely my
most people around the world, I
is generally seen as a coming
governments of the world, where
collectively and every country
Why, in your view, is this
You just have to go back to
were the founders, who was with
It's always those who are behind
organization, organization
a, it's a, it's like they have
world order where everyone will
not like that. And if you go
United Nations came about. It's
All right. So with that
families, groups, oligarch,
that had an outsized influence
the Rockefellers, which I know
extensively about. So how did
affiliates influence the early
influence do they continue to
Well, you can go back
Nations, the setup of League of
family was involved in this. And
League of Nations was working
already and but as we know, the
United. United States was never
Rockefeller Foundation worked
Nations Health Department. It
They had, this International
Foundation, and they more or
League of Nations for a. The
with the setup of United Nations
of Nations was a failure, and
Italy, they quit the membership,
abilities to stop the war, but
to think about the possibilities
this was done through the lot of
Relations in New York. And the
course, was set up by JP Morgan,
the Rockefellers were huge and
organizations from the 30s and
the second world war, they were
but But before the war, CFR,
study their way. Discussed the
would arise after this more the
it was the financial powers at
was more or less up for the
preparation for what was come
this study, they mentioned the
what would become the World Bank
this started a process with a
during the war, about a New
also the fact that the allied
United Nations, so They took
the 1945 they had this big
that was the kind of setup of of
influence from The Rockefellers.
would be vice president, was a
made the decisions to start
and the Rockefeller brothers,
the new headquarters would be
hills, outside of New York. But,
countries that would be a part
was part of a new organizations
from the from city. We we have
They said, We have to have it in
Rockefellers, they bought the
yonder. Rockefeller then donated
Nations, and the Rockefellers
architectural team that was
the headquarters, and their own
and he was the chief architect
Rockefeller Brothers, founder
member of Board of Trustees, so
home for them. And it's also
after the Second World War I.
competitors had more or less
they were in United States and
and and wealth during the war.
prepared to take over the what
on building these new global
United Nations, more or less,
they, if you go into the
they They are handling the
Rockefeller family. They have
Rockefeller has influenced and
they have united nations in the
our organization. And so from
have had a very, very, very big
also, like in 1948 we have set
closely connected to the
work, they basically to go with
League of Nations, so very much
that time, and they also after
in the 50s, and they had the
think about how they could make
powerful. And during the or or
was a kind of a movement going
United Nations into a world
Federalist movement called it
today, but, but it was a
member states of United Nations
or very sovereign sovereignty.
other ways to achieve this. And
coming, and that was actually
a world government at the time.
it clear for the nations that
the whole world and and
kind of a global governance
prevent this from happening. And
from the University of Chicago,
and funded by John D
Rockefeller senior, and later,
also when, when John D
involved and and David
money was very, very much in in
that university, they, they
doomsday clock. You know, over
yeah. So basically, the
you know, one minute or two
less been a very small amount of
since it was created, sort of
used to manufacture consent. I
solutions that people would
leads to a surrendering of
against whatever the threat is
Exactly. Okay. I.
So, so it was set up in in
doomstick clock. And they also
the very important people,
president of universe at that
setup of the Aspen Institute in
Institute worked very close with
they were searching for
first, the atomic bomb, but but
Talk about the population
before you go any further.
I guess, what is arguably the
their long interest in eugenics,
What exactly has the Rockefeller
standing history of what they've
And obviously, from what you've
utilized entities like the
consent globally for a lot of
sort of this, some of the things
you perhaps give an overview of
have been since it at the very
not a little bit earlier than
overview, perhaps, of how
United Nations, or, you know,
rebrand some of these long
more palatable to the public.
if you go into to the
about oil in the beginning. And
Standard Oil, the Standard Oil
biggest in the world, takes over
completely in the United States
influential globally. And that's
globally and starting up
the world, and also interesting
regions and United States as
they are building up the Intel
They did have their own
during World War Two that was
precursor to the CIA, yes,
yes. Interesting operating
so they start up very, very
they are, they are into global
global business and and one
impractical, it was that we have
to make contract, we have to to
over the world. It's and it also
you have the you have the you
the federal level. You have to
they thought it was they wanted
to. It's like, when you're
have the is in European Union
countries. Now have Brussels,
Brussels and and we can the big
less make policy with the help
politicians, and then these will
countries. And it's that kind of
them. More efficient system for
we want to have this and have
governance. And it's like we
and wants it to function as this
Well, I think it absolutely
some of my past work with Ian
talking about the United
what we consider a rather
Secretary General Kofi Annan
was UN Secretary General at the
has undergone a quiet
here, but it's something to the
really about the public sector
really about business. And the
businesses is now the business
essentially signaling that, you
sector in the public private
things. And it makes a lot of
know, at the same time, the
posturing as you know, you know,
know, a better, more just world
the early things they were
basically came down to increased
referred to, at least today, as
case of, you know, Latin
the rock of David Rockefeller,
in 1973 in Chile, installing
economy be under the control of
mentioned the University of
of what are known as the Chicago
efforts, and a lot of that was
businesses that the Rockefellers
one of their closest affiliates
Edwards, who was a head of this
basically. And the, you know,
was head of Chase Manhattan
policy towards Latin America
debt crisis, which has led to a
still seeing today. Really like,
instability, for example, has
then there's this particular
interesting to look at as well.
called Adela. And Adela is
Well, would you like to talk
the Club of Rome, which I know
your work. So in the
that as well. So I'd be
on Adela.
Yes, Adela, they worked for
integration and cooperation
was like a lot of bank stores in
also from my home country,
Swedish Rockefellers. It's
much you have looked into to
had this meeting Adela in in, I
for now, but they had a meeting
a man called aureli pecha. He
at Olivetti, and also he had
Al Italia, and they at this
future, the future development,
or less control the future,
people wouldn't do anything, it
And, for example, it was about
topical at the time. And and
environmental issues and this
was a need for more, like high
If you read the kind of history
mentioned this. We don't know if
happened, but they state this
banksters. We had one of those,
Dean Rusk of the Rockefeller
was later Secretary of State.
the time, but he had been at
close to the Rockefeller circle
of something called the special
this led up to ideas on set up
for the future and future
first meeting in Rome,
I believe, at a Rockefeller
the
first was actually in Rome
exact play I was at this place
to Rome, and so I had to go to
very, it's the oldest Academy,
has also has a connection to my
our queen Christina, that went
old building of this academy.
And in that place the first
this little group, the Club of
Bellagio a couple of months
took off with a little core
event. It was global planners
gathered there to discuss more
how we can create a better
after that they we have have a
involved in this. First it was,
run by Rockefeller Foundation
the people in the Board of
the circle was Carol Louis
of Nelson Rockefeller and also
involved in their special
I think it's a very, very
status project, but the Club of
also he was at the MIT, and he
study about resources, that
and how the population growth
very much based on malthusianism
that was thing. So they built
run by Jay Forrester, and this
limits to growth in 1972 so
before we go farther into
add a few things. So first of
which helped, as you noted,
and all of this was essentially
Western oligarchs going to Latin
would become. Of the local
American countries, sort of
become the big corporate magnets
interesting because there's
followed that same model called
they're mostly funded by the
and also Pierre Omidyar, the
owner of PayPal, though he is
own PayPal anymore, but they are
model, but to basically King
that will be running all the
technology in Latin America,
really comes down, as you
exploitation, how these people
countries that they really have
you're coming at it from A
and then also trying to
growth in these same areas like
south more broadly, as threats
you were, what you just
Club of Rome was also, you know,
frame, paralleled by another
family, Henry Kissinger, in a
that he put out that during the
made it US government policy
Latin America and in other areas
considered a threat to US
important to keep in mind in the
ultimately, you know, there's
interest in eugenics, but also,
you know, unrestrained
will essentially make it harder
clans abroad to control the
the day. But somehow they've
disturbing and predatory
know, as sustainability and
all of that, and a lot of
and, yeah, and made made
have implanted the idea among I
believe this. Everyone believes,
the elite view we have. We have
indoctrinated the minds of
view. And this has been a
I just wanted to do you know
project that I mentioned,
I believe I'm familiar with
David Rockefeller became
because of Kissinger's
yes, or it might have been a
Well, it was the, I think a
things in my Rockefeller book,
a lot of agenda that's playing
this day. And this was, it was
to he had been the in the true
also, think he was in, involved
he stepped out of politics for a
chairman the president of a
because he had, at that time, an
best minds in America together
possibilities. And they had
called the special project from
this in the mid 50s, 56 I think,
Kissinger for as a coordinator
have a lot of people involved
the. Banks and what they are
thick report. It was, it was
1961 called Rockefeller panel
about how to more or less create
governance system for the
this report that their mission
order in all lights, all its
culture and so on. And how to do
science is a method. Because
have scientific cooperation
borders, and we have to seek out
global in scope. So in this
that, okay, we have some areas
develop than others, and some of
oceanography, because climate
transnational problems. And we
could change the climate, it
needed. It couldn't be sold by a
thing is global health. And of
atomic bomb, but it's so they
scientific areas, and they have
course, with health for a long
becomes a priority with climate
dioxide theory that they that
time, but It became, and they
in setting up this from the 50s
the Club of Rome, that was one
said before, Carol Louis Wilson
studies project, and he was the
conferences in the early 1970s
environmental problems and man's
was a close friend of Nelson and
you read what's written about
that time, they say that he was
about these topics and how man
climate so it came very
shock for me when I found out
Climate Center for Climate
in my home, home city here North
see that, okay, these people,
the old oil men that were behind
so well, it kind of does
that, you know, the modern
exclusively focused on carbon
toxic load caused by industries
the Rockefellers made a lot of
for example, I mean, there's an
environmental issues the world
contamination from mining, for
things like hydraulic
done in the US, which totally
like, just pumps a ton, a ton of
don't companies don't even have
into, you know, the earth and
essentially made it the big
have that extreme focus on
that have been given to us are
to manage people's footprints
downstream of the Club of Rome,
Network, and then all these
schemes, which are essentially
basically through the the
through this the fear generated
as a way to impose this new
essentially. And it's
that was very important in
the predominant, un backed
things like that was Marie
strong chose to hire to develop
that he worked on, on developing
guy named Richard Sandor, who
vice president at Drexel Burnham
was at in the center of a huge
years prior, basically, for the
several people at Drexel went to
felons. And Sandor made a lot of
the father of financial futures
other, you know, financial
economic calamity. But he's,
carbon trading. And he thinks
you know, the world's access to
there should be a market for
is why it's very frustrating to
environmentalists and are well
alarm is such, as described by
organizations that you're
all of these scammy carbon
actually, even if you believe
narrative, don't actually
You know, yeah, exactly,
yeah. It's a big scam, and
lot of people working with this,
of my old colleagues from from
with us. They believe it. And I
or something, but, but it's
time to just show the evidence,
very, very, very hard for
them this, they can, and it's
in in this climate narrative,
for them to to do other things
it by the question the very
work in. So it's, it's very,
unfortunately. Well,
I think, I think it's useful
solutions from the people that
Genesis figures in in this
example, someone like Bill
notorious, you know, he says the
not to plant forests all over
says, instead, he thinks it's a
company to use, you know, fossil
machines to pull up trees in an
know, use untold numbers of
trees underground so that the
sequestered, even though the
turn that carbon into oxygen,
no, you can't do that. We have
that I've been investing in and
solutions and things like that.
point out that the UN when you
facilitating and supporting,
environmental sense, like their
deep sea mining at a time when
worried and arguably rightly so
facing the world, world's
those issues, like deep sea
pollution, have taken an extreme
carbon emissions, and the idea
that the climate change
that those issues could be
carbon market? I think are, you
what these, these solutions that
and also the fact that people
change, like figures relatively
administration, are, along with
that Club of Rome affiliate I
build a giant carbon market on
regionally integrating it
American Union, and building a
smart power grid connecting
all and and then surveilling the
continent as part of this like
green Plus, basically and on the
intimately involves Trump's
chair Howard lutnic, who's now
Secretary, as well as his former
Mnuchin, and the former head of
military under Trump, Joe
that, interestingly enough, and
Bitcoin Side Chain and
these carbon emissions be be
communities it's supposed to
the money they supposedly
can implement projects with it
Footprint Network and this
overtly globalist entity called
to regionalize Latin America
climate change. And actually,
Bucha ladies party in El
president of that organization.
right leaning figures that have
leaning populace seem to be all
which, you know, please explain.
against the narrative. It again,
seems to be big business and
end of the day. And I suppose
emissions and global footprint,
be able to exercise control over
industrial activity and their
direct correlation between
size, which takes us sort of
unquote, family planning
yes, yeah, it's all
it's perfect. Carbon is life,
everything, if you and that's
for that to to make it our new
also just, I mean, there's
just doesn't make sense. So, you
you know, big names coming out
small scale organic agriculture
to have giant industrial farms
drones and involve no people
change friendly solution is
lot of these, frankly, just seem
people who are, you know,
narrative, narrative that's been
be a lot of or rather a lack of
solutions, and do they really
posed to most people? And it
disconnect there. So maybe we
the man that helped make this
His name is Marie strong, and he
essentially, for the precursors
development goals that have gone
guess ultimately, go back to
this Rio conference in the early
interesting history. Definitely
connections, and I was wondering
talking about him at all. Yes.
Maurice Strong, when I read,
was first a bit critical about
was kind of dragged into the
and he was came into the energy
kind of a strange thing. You
the shows for the Stockholm
United Nations meeting. That was
environment, first proposed in
called sverker Ostrom, but they
the scenes with the Americans.
people from the Aspen Institute,
Anderson. Roberto Anderson, he
Atlantic Richfield Corporation,
institute, Institute of
International Institute of
strong, came into the picture.
hadn't been talking that much
had been involved with the
agency, and so, so that's the
lot about future development, or
so more strong? He was invited
for the conference. They had
Stockholm. They've been, it was
the Swedish government that
and the SEC, the secretariat
Rockefeller Foundation that they
connected people involved in
conference, they had had also a
interest or secure. He wanted to
countries that this was a good
development, and to have this
Because the thing they were kind
skeptical a lot of these
So now it's the old colonial
how we can develop in the
but more strong was sent with
called the phonics meeting that
third world countries, they will
we have, we have development in
have something as well. But of
themselves was the resources to
Stockholm, it was interesting
read, I have this, this book
published a couple of years ago
writes about all the what's
scenes from more or less
to the Rio Conference, and a lot
more strong, he had actually had
Royals. So, so you had had
Castle a couple of times. And
it's just interesting to see
it's not like when we set up
wanted to to make it appear like
that are demanding change. So at
they founded the Friends of the
69 and do you know who gave them
this environmental organization
capitalist and and very, very
No, not familiar. Oh no. Roberto
the Atlantic ritual Corporation,
organization and and they were
this, because before this, the
the upper class, and they were
and they were concerned about
they were into eugenicist
kind of a popular view, but
changed this, and they set up
this book, The Population Bomb,
it was 69 as well. And to give
this, all these grassroots
people on earth, and that we are
to be controlled, we also have a
the time, and books called
Earth is a little, little, small
be manned by a crew that can
and it's so fragile and
of this comes more strong and he
Stockholm, a kind of a place.
up a camp with youth, and they
coming over, like hippie types,
stuff, yes, Yes to to make it
movement and and more strong
used and everything and cameras
impression. And more strong, he
conference and the conference,
Morris will head a new
Nations Environmental Program.
the from the this Aspen
environmental, environmental, I
verobito Anderson and Joseph
very, very well connected to the
kind of, it's kind of funny,
it continues today. I. Mean
currently, of you know, carbon
trading, and a lot of these
and big gas and some of the
Biden administration's very
Reduction Act, which was largely
related legislation were
including one that backed Trump
Petroleum, which has a very
it's a very intelligence
named Armand Hammer, and his
Samuel pisar of the Robert
along with, you know, they were
largely this Rockefeller group
world of the trans ideological
put it basically like knitting
They said, you said the
patrol? Yeah, Nelson Rockefeller
Well, Al Gore, yeah, not
basically, they've become a huge
sequestration subsidies and
of you know, the, I think, the
carbon emissions trading the
It's all the big, biggest oil
there. So the idea that big oil
kind of solutions. I mean, as
they've really been behind this
consciousness, you know, for a
to arguably benefit the most
post oil era. But they designed
did. That's the thing. What
environmentalist. I was once a
Sweden and everything, and I
it's the environmental movement.
things. They started to complain
were polluting the environment
But when I really started
they actually started the
Well, I think there were
know, before this era, and you
the United States, a lot of
like, use of pesticides that
wildlife and things like that.
earlier, has completely taken
stuff. And I think it absolutely
environmentalist without, you
emissions trading or a carbon
would say, say that the
environmental problems and we
have been always and now we have
they they're worried about the
destruction of the environment
build this. But these are local
the global, the
the big, the moneyed
we have a big it's like they
companies themselves, like what
VR, they have these offices in
talk about the big global
small local problems. But we can
affects people in the daily
problems that you don't can see,
that's invisible threats. So
we always, we have real
that I, myself is a real
of scared of seeing that a lot
was no problems, it was no real
problems was kind of, no, that's
witnessed the change in in in
well. And they suddenly, at
to local solutions and and
problems that were close to
started to talk about climate
that, no, before, we were
But now, because of the climate,
the European Union. So they
that time. So and also the
they started to talk about
like they were totally hijacked.
people that were involved have
more alternative movement. Yeah,
well, that would that that
because it is very frustrating
and what are sold as solutions
they're flagrantly predatory,
on them at all, except for, you
write about green finance and
example, one of the, you know,
solutions these days, and that's
multilateral banking
and the IMF and what have you
climate swaps, you know, debt
essentially, you know, these
institutions that were created,
UN essentially was created at
again, a lot of the same people
essentially attack less wealthy
slavery, and now they're using
to essentially give away their
foreign banks or foreign
under the guise of conservation.
happening at all, because it's a
that was pitched in the 1980s
was is basically just a way to
particular, has been a big
but it's also, you know, really
essentially all of those
most extensively in Latin
Africa as well, which is another
essentially what happens when
locals are unable to access the
lot of the coastal ones that
environments as part of these
locals from accessing the beach
fishing or anything like that.
to, you know, force locals out
for a very long time, which is
but, but sort of force them
allow a lot of these big banks
of the stuff to sort of price,
as blue carbon credits when
green carbon credits when
as part of these sort of, you
what they call natural assets
sheets and what have you since,
before, you know, there's this
of the Rockefeller Foundation as
example, the natural asset
of natural assets that were
commons. You know, the the goal
nature, but have it essentially
live there. And this has been
point where you now have a
Black Rock executive that
or ETFs. Is has is turning each
into a security that you can buy
board member of Trump's truth
essentially what they're doing
local indigenous groups living
contracts in exchange for what's
In terms of what they're giving
and they lose sovereignty over
the securitization of the
Amazon, can bring any group they
local people knowing or having
under constant surveillance,
is also aiming to. Wire up the
internet grid that they call the
internet of things, but for the
And they say it's about
in a separate white paper that
biological data from the trees
can make more money. And
people lose their sovereignty
surveillance from from foreign
a one time payment of like,
going to laugh all the way to
whole rainforest and covering it
swarms. Doesn't that sound
so,
of course,
but this is, unfortunately,
getting. And I do get frustrated
unwilling to question the
upon us, because for people that
environment. How do you not see
And so I hope someday people on
out. I mean, there's plenty of
figured things out to an extent,
prominent right wing figures, at
administration in the US. You
set to serve in that
committed to implementing the
mentioned earlier, his company,
fund dedicated to SDG
unquote, sustainability. And you
big proponent of carbon taxes
course, an electoral electric
has earned a fortune on on
changing the cars to to electric
which comes with a major
of the mining for the cobalt,
required that that environmental
doesn't really get discussed
suspect there's going to be an
is has framed himself in the
pulling out of the Paris
It seems like the I think it's
administration, you're going to
or carbon emissions trading,
ideas. Anyway, it was George H W
and this time, has Trump
Agreement? This time? No.
And actually, Elon Musk quit
the previous Trump
quit, Paris, I quit. You to
again. So I guess their
been. They have already played
card. Yes. And
then Howard lutnic, who I
essentially helped chosen the
going to serve in it. It was one
carbon emissions trading, and
emissions trading under the the
you know, they had a they
carbon trading platform, like as
signed in the late 90s, and
ever since. So we'll see what
some other things in your work
we run out of time. So if we
that are related to the United
role in hijacking, hijacking,
like to do that, if that's okay
written a good bit on some of
documents that have come out,
common agenda document, and that
policy goals are, if the UN
calls multilateralism with
enforce its policies on member
not. And these include a
body for the global economy,
space technology to monitor
talked about a minute ago, among
US and beyond, we're seeing an
policies to both left and right,
concerned just a few years ago
era, and there was the formal
and so on. So what are your
think that's happening as well,
sort of force that's publicly
policies?
Yes, I can't see that. We
pushing against this. And. Uh,
process with our common agenda,
time, and we had this packed for
ago, almost to the day,
little resistance to this and
upon before it was no vote on
some countries that have some
end, they gave in, and maybe
the pact or proposed were not
it's not like, it's not, but
pact is huge. It's a lot of
lot of these, they have already
and I say, this is a Fabian
steps all the time. So,
exactly. And, and also it's
you aim for a lot, you said you
Donald Trump is doing
And both in the other end of a
way and they feel okay. We
things in the end, but they got,
how you do it. When you
these solutions that can feel
you're open and feel that they
that everything that also has
a later time. It's like they had
things in in our common agenda
emergency platform. I think
dangerous things they have come
giving United Nations Secretary
global emergency, and that will
actors that they have they have
and governments and and
NGOs, a group, a network that
emergency is declared, and
and and not tolerating any
very, very, really scary shit.
have the Club of Rome, and these
climate governance commission, a
also try out through commission,
to have this declaration a
months ago, at this summit of
but it's like, but they prepare
they have forced people to talk
Nations system is adjusting
background, we all have all
also, I was just reading through
Swedish government, because they
becomes. Institution that gives
declare an emergency without the
this, and that's that's also a
more soft in their approach
have that those tools for the
on recommendations, but now they
this, but we said we want a
Okay, but the nations are not
have to have legislation in
platform that wasn't part of the
will come up with proposals on
emergency if it comes, and we
think it will spring up at a
written about this in in in a
summit of the future, of a
incoming Trump administration,
Administration, they will have
crisis, maybe, but they refer to
will be okay. We didn't get what
think even if they had had this
now, they would still have
test it, but this time, we don't
this global polar crisis to show
modulus platform. So that's one
actually look into all the
going on around like the United
all have prepared a lot of
in this. And for example, they
in organization United Nations,
talked a lot about this with
so on. And that's comes into
about this construction of the
it. And I, actually we, I wrote
report that you did about the
brain, and that's what I see, is
to have this more or less
these people with billionaire
bureaucrats and the the
to to actually look into the
every data and all the data,
this with, there's A lot of
artificial intelligence the next
Oh, absolutely, yeah. And I
unprecedented effort to sell it
as well. So I think you're
for the UN to be sort of a de
Because ultimately, a lot of the
in collaboration with Ian Davis,
efforts to, for example, market
framing it as decentralized and
the standards of all the digital
globally, and they can export
format, and certain entities,
the World Bank affiliates, are
that data for all the countries.
appears right now, is to sort of
not the same system, but the
to the same place and then used,
entity is housing it to you
certain AI algorithms and to you
technocratic policy decisions
them be sold elsewhere. And I
I don't know, market those under
populations. So obviously the
versus the United States, I
quite different and so and but I
the marketing pitches are for
five eyes countries, for
which is basically the English
like the United Kingdom or
current Australian government is
digital ID for verification to
guise of protecting kids from
the argument in Britain as well,
Party doing the talking, or
well, protecting me from hate
conservatives, the opposition,
Britain, for example, marketed
but as a solution to illegal
obviously, right leaning bases
illegal immigration, which has
right to happen, and they argue
for that. And that is true also
Donald Trump has proposed a
system that he says is very
into or out of the US, which
that wants to travel abroad, so
that this would be a way to
ultimately, it's the same
same crap at the end of the day,
you is different, and I think,
demographics, particularly those
more. Yeah,
exactly. I mean, it's, it's
had a Conservative government,
the Prime Minister, he said, we
to let all of these people in
he left the office, and the
a new prime minister, and then
and it was so problematic
years later, we had lots of
lots of shootings, bombings and
in Sweden before, and even in my
at each other, and outside my
almost every day, a young boy
such horrible things going on
government, they couldn't handle
to stop immigration, so we have
problematic with the government,
didn't like this. They wanted
and so and then a new, the
because of this, and instead,
to power again. Remember now the
conservative he said, open your
the problem hit. And then comes
the same Prime Minister as that
we're going to take care of. Is
the criminality and and they
we came to power, together with
called Sweden Democrats that got
that were tired of what
wave, and now we said we're
more policing, we're going to
cameras everywhere. So now they
year, or it was later last year
this security zones and also put
we didn't have before, and it
put up this new security all
obvious how they are doing this
matter who's in power, who's in
The left, of course, they will
environmental concerns or or
will do it out of concern of the
Well, I think once it's
mix them all together. So like
poised right now, at least,
data depositories for digital ID
database, and they're also in
blockchain based climate
it seems like the goal is sort
there's also, you know, I think
equation, because there's plenty
digitalization of of money, but
the efforts to, you know,
nature into tradable financial
combating climate change,
monetary incentives for you to
get, who knows what token that's
that used to run we work, right,
scam and produced the goddess
you know, hold some of those and
environment and whatever, while
things like that. And I think
in discussing all of this, that
has said it itself, is the
just like they like to ping pong
right whenever it suits them, or
fed up with one of the sides,
private thing. And so I think
about a central bank digital
public sector, right? Digital
a dramatic lack of focus on
currencies that are just as
programmable as CBDCs would be.
example. And how these are
under similar metrics and could
sort of, you know, carbon
know, finance edict that's
really, I think, you know, the
agendas are digital ID. You
of all of the SDG indicators
digital ID, which is why I think
that, and that people should
instead of, you know, what
and doing, because they seem to
at least once they're in power.
frame it under different
different sales pitches. But if
adopted, then you know this
have a lot of difficulty going
it as voluntary, at least at
of hope in that endeavor. So
want to touch base about a
brought up in the context of
brain and things of that nature.
mapped out the effort of
decades that have called for a
consciousness, and along with
homogenize thought and culture.
spiritual policy develop, and
see this homogenization,
happening to some degree?
Well, this, this ideas
and guy called Ervin lasslo,
heavily involved in United
the new international economic
Nations in the 70s, and they
how we could develop a new
came up with the idea in and
the club of Budapest in 1992 or
meeting in Rio de Janeiro, the
strong and the and the agenda 21
was born, and Laszlo and the
to work with a lot of
them were Michel Gorbachev, the
Union. And they also started,
involved in culture, of course,
to fuse together these ideas,
how global culture could
board, a lot of these people in
Transition Initiative that
can we create this new planetary
consciousness, we released a
Great Transition. Funding came
United environmental program,
a lot of in my my Rockefeller
close Swedish connection with a
And they said that in order to
civilization, we have to have a
movement of people that have
have the national identities.
global identity. And they
that were operating to change
people with these ideas. And
circle. And started in, I think
interesting, also, with this
they said that, in order to
crisis coming, and we know what
this report came out, or vilasla
book called macro shift in two
at the same day, we had a
they had, we celebrated the
and they had an artist that had
covenant, but where they placed
kind of this global.
ideas, and they placed it in
911 attack happened, they
a procession go taking a walk
York. And they wanted to place
Headquarters, but for some
put it there at that time. So
box. And the guard box, that's
house in very close Morningside
think it's called very close to
where the Rockefeller Brothers
new company up there and and if
and because it's a lot of other
they also talk about technology
this global consciousness.
through the internet. Internet
bringing people together from
through that, you can start to
step also is, is kind of connect
everything, and that's when it
actually was involved in in a
project that discusses the brain
people would be connected to
started some pilot projects. So
strange things. When I found out
I was starting to investigate
but since things has happened,
Industrial Revolution, all these
less sci fi and far out, they
now we have Elon Musk with his
these, uh, these things as well.
yeah. Well, um, in your
lot of what you discussed about
consciousness. A lot of the
noted have argued that humanity
order to survive. And of course,
recent proponents of that view
on sort of that particular
and how it might differ from
ultimately leads to, in your
Well, this is Elon Musk. He
the threat of artificial
he's helping develop. Yes,
exactly so. But in order to
it's better to fuse with it,
stand a chance. I think that's
heard
with you. And also
the thing with Elon Musk as
alternative world of Hooray Elon
superhero, and
also he was placed in the
Man movies had a significant
actually, as part of producing
Elon Musk was already a pentagon
overlap interesting.
You wouldn't come that far
well connected to that system
something like that. Yeah.
it ties in? I know that some of
of tied in with the new age
that of this effort to develop a
And where do you see sort of
we have to merge with machine to
with, you know that sort of
also tied to some of these
it does. It does a very if
of this in my my book The Global
that's another book that was
horse and I wrote a lot about
they are. It's kind of they give
Schwab world the the fourth
have their own kind of Hip, hip
space technocracy. So you always
to the proponents of these in
fantastic space technologies.
rebranded the Fourth Industrial
fluffy way. But we can also find
comes from something comes from
women about the term New Age.
theosophy. And we find
lot of that's what I write about
December, the book called Temple
occult background to all of
basically the transhuman ideas.
perfecting yourself become a
course, that can be a good
wants to be a better person, but
the book, it's impossible to
help of technology this has we
for example, and and other with
this and and we have also offers
technology development that goes
with philosophies of of of
achieved. So so I have that has
I want to do for a long time,
like 15 years ago with
we were funded by the oil
that there was a lot of things
Age world and with occult
the techno technological
almost also be, almost always
ideas. And we can take example,
have, they had people that has
also? So it's a, it's a very,
was doing research, a very, very
a long time.
Great. Well, thanks for
it's worth looking into,
whole temple of Solomon thing.
really interested to read in
who it was, what a particular
the rebuilding of the so called
was to have essentially all of
technological means and sort of
shared hive mind. Yeah,
yeah. That's, that's Oliver
a lot about and Oliver Reiser,
them was Ovid Laszlo that I
I just find that interesting
what's going on right now, for
Palestine, and even a lot of
administration rather openly
the Third Temple rebuilt, and
Netanyahu led Israeli government
of what that the significance
and sort of this other view
that it's really about creating
Fourth Industrial Revolution,
paradigm. And it's interesting
first prime minister of Israel,
quote, unquote, in the 1960s
government would emerge in
and sort of he also had
unquote, Third Temple and what
lot to consider there,
that there's a lot of overt
Thiel and figures that he funds
age of the Antichrist is here,
how things are going, I think
quite the ride. If that
you've someone like Peter Thiel,
guy on Bilderberg and, yeah, and
current incoming Vice President
like that, openly saying, you
here. Guys, yes, it's very
interesting to consider. Some of
also, you know, in terms of just
general, it's interesting that
considered the father of
early days, anyway, promoting
by a British diplomat who, I
heckler, who happened to be a
rebuilding Solomon's temple in
lot of history there. I guess
it's connections to the
right. So I think anyone
definitely check out your book
some some on these issues in the
in the show notes as well, for
much for your time today, Jacob
share with my audience where
your work and how they can
Yes, well, you can find some
my own web store. Can find it
you can also find my books at
sky, or directly from Sky horse.
released in United States now.
the game and the global coup
only be bought directly from me,
special book, limited edition
a soundtrack by my own band. I
project as well, and I have
worked with an with an artist,
make something that is generally
of this AI stuff that it's
yes, to to promote true
wanted to, I've always wanted to
remember my writing things with
it's a special product that's
commendable, and I think a
should follow, and instead of
convenience of AI generated
and also support people that
want to do, I want to support
The chance to to come up with,
actually earn something from it.
we help each other with this as
I definitely agree with
your time, and thank you to
episode. If you enjoyed it,
please consider supporting this
without you. Thanks so much
The next episode.
You