1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,200 If you're watching this video, you're going to learn three big things. 2 00:00:03,380 --> 00:00:06,560 Number one, how to start Bitcoin the calm way. 3 00:00:07,100 --> 00:00:11,440 DCA, ignore the noise, and use dips like discounts. 4 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,520 Ooh, number two, Bitcoin mining. 5 00:00:15,100 --> 00:00:16,000 What is it? 6 00:00:16,100 --> 00:00:16,980 Why does it matter? 7 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:22,000 How can a normal person like you plug something in and get started? 8 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,540 Number three, how to build a real Bitcoin life. 9 00:00:25,540 --> 00:00:33,600 Okay, today's guest, Alfredo, big TikTok NextBlock player, hands-on Bitcoiner, focused on mining. 10 00:00:33,740 --> 00:00:35,280 He's going to help you stack your first sats. 11 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:42,560 So if you're brand new to Bitcoin, come on inside the world's biggest Bitcoin welcome center for today's show. 12 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:51,820 Welcome to Sat Chats, the Bitcoin podcast where we chat about sats. 13 00:00:51,820 --> 00:00:53,840 sats are the smallest part of what? 14 00:00:54,500 --> 00:00:55,120 A Bitcoin. 15 00:00:55,360 --> 00:00:58,260 The same way pennies are the smallest part of a dollar. 16 00:00:59,060 --> 00:01:03,040 At Sat Chats, we are building the world's biggest Bitcoin welcome center 17 00:01:03,040 --> 00:01:05,680 to serve as your gateway to generational wealth. 18 00:01:05,840 --> 00:01:10,580 So if you are brand new to Bitcoin, we want to chat about sats with you. 19 00:01:11,020 --> 00:01:15,320 Head to satchats.com to grab your slot in the studio today. 20 00:01:15,420 --> 00:01:16,560 I'm your host, Stuart. 21 00:01:17,320 --> 00:01:19,380 And I'm your co-host, Anna Bevan. 22 00:01:19,380 --> 00:01:23,140 and with us today in the virtual studio is 184Alfredo. 23 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:24,420 Let's... 24 00:01:24,420 --> 00:01:27,020 No stranger to sad chats or TikTok Next Block. 25 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:27,920 Yes. 26 00:01:28,540 --> 00:01:31,940 Climbing up the ranks of the Chattillionaire leaderboard 27 00:01:31,940 --> 00:01:34,360 on Fridays at 11 a.m. is Alfredo. 28 00:01:34,900 --> 00:01:37,240 Alfredo, you are a big Bitcoiner. 29 00:01:37,740 --> 00:01:41,220 Can you remember what it was like for you 30 00:01:41,220 --> 00:01:43,720 to become a brand new Bitcoiner? 31 00:01:44,840 --> 00:01:48,480 Yeah, this all happened around the COVID time. 32 00:01:48,480 --> 00:01:55,100 you know, when COVID hit, I started to try to learn about the stock market. And, you know, 33 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:01,020 because, excuse me, we were about to get laid off, you know, from our job and that. And I kept 34 00:02:01,020 --> 00:02:06,920 hearing on the market about Bitcoin, Bitcoin. So I decided to finally like look into it. And that's 35 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:11,740 when I started getting books on reading. And the first book I read was The Bitcoin Standard. 36 00:02:12,380 --> 00:02:17,200 And once I read The Bitcoin Standard, I was pretty much hooked in. I pretty much was like, 37 00:02:17,200 --> 00:02:18,660 all right, I want to get involved in this. 38 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:19,860 What's the next step? 39 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:24,100 And I started to, you know, just keep researching into things I need to do. 40 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:25,120 Where can I buy it? 41 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:26,980 What do I need to do to store it? 42 00:02:27,060 --> 00:02:28,020 How do I store it? 43 00:02:28,100 --> 00:02:31,660 You know, learning and watching all kinds of podcasts and YouTube videos 44 00:02:31,660 --> 00:02:33,200 on how to store it and that. 45 00:02:33,320 --> 00:02:36,520 So that's pretty much, you know, how I got into it. 46 00:02:38,640 --> 00:02:39,780 So, yeah, go ahead. 47 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:41,380 Man, we said the same time. 48 00:02:41,400 --> 00:02:42,060 Right now, we're insane. 49 00:02:42,060 --> 00:02:48,620 Yeah. So we had so many Bitcoiners come on and say that their entrance was the Bitcoin standard. 50 00:02:51,020 --> 00:02:55,420 I'm just curious because that was also the first book that I read. 51 00:02:56,140 --> 00:02:59,580 But I read that mainly because Chris and Stuart were talking about it. 52 00:03:00,280 --> 00:03:02,980 And I was like, okay, I feel like I need to read this book. 53 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:04,220 I feel like I can do it. 54 00:03:04,480 --> 00:03:08,840 I can plow through and read this book on this thing that I've never even heard of. 55 00:03:09,600 --> 00:03:15,920 And I'm wondering, is it the easiest book to understand on Bitcoin? 56 00:03:16,980 --> 00:03:19,780 Or does it just lay out an argument really well? 57 00:03:19,900 --> 00:03:22,480 Like, what do you think that, like, why was that your first book? 58 00:03:22,780 --> 00:03:23,560 And were there some- 59 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,500 Yeah, I think it lays out the argument of why we need Bitcoin 60 00:03:26,500 --> 00:03:28,960 and why we should be involved in Bitcoin. 61 00:03:29,900 --> 00:03:31,240 There's other good books out there. 62 00:03:31,300 --> 00:03:34,020 Like I've read Lynn Alden's book, Broken Money. 63 00:03:34,020 --> 00:03:37,820 I think that's a really good book for people who want to understand how money works, 64 00:03:37,820 --> 00:03:42,640 how all money in different parts of the world work. 65 00:03:43,180 --> 00:03:45,140 I've read The Big Print by Larry. 66 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:49,080 I think that's a great book for new beginners to get involved with. 67 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,760 It really just lays down fundamental, easy ways to understand 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,520 what's going on with the economy, what's happening, 69 00:03:55,700 --> 00:03:58,420 and why you need to kind of get involved with Bitcoin. 70 00:03:59,540 --> 00:04:04,100 Another one I've read, Jeff Booth's book, Price of Tomorrow. 71 00:04:04,460 --> 00:04:05,580 I think that's an awesome book. 72 00:04:05,580 --> 00:04:16,180 It doesn't talk about Bitcoin, but it does give you the sense that once you start to learn about Bitcoin, that you need to be involved with Bitcoin because the future looks bright if you get involved with Bitcoin. 73 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:26,880 Because once you start to understand that money can be depreciated, that money's not getting you much today, and you just learn that, okay, well, what do I want to do for my family? 74 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:31,440 What do I want to do for my next generation, my grandson, my great-grandkids? 75 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:38,780 You know, so and that's the way I, you know, have gotten into understanding reading these books, you know, and going down the rabbit hole with these books, you know. 76 00:04:39,060 --> 00:04:42,920 Plus, I read also Simply Bitcoin book is another good one. 77 00:04:43,280 --> 00:04:51,640 I usually give that one to people to read just so they can have a simple way to really understand Bitcoin, because it really just all about Bitcoin. 78 00:04:51,780 --> 00:04:58,000 Just understanding how to use it, what's mining about, what's wallets about, you know, the different wallets, hot, cold and that. 79 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:01,640 So I think that's a great book for people to read, you know, to get involved. 80 00:05:01,960 --> 00:05:09,660 But I think definitely the Bitcoin standard is definitely the key book to if you want to really, you know, say, OK, I want to go into Bitcoin. 81 00:05:09,920 --> 00:05:12,160 Once you read it, it'll definitely make you want to go into Bitcoin. 82 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:14,140 That's the way it worked for me, you know, so. 83 00:05:16,620 --> 00:05:26,360 When you were looking at Bitcoin during the pandemic as you were about to get laid off or felt like there was some job uncertainty there, 84 00:05:26,360 --> 00:05:34,260 Were you coming at Bitcoin as a way to potentially make some quick money to protect yourself? 85 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:45,020 Were you looking at Bitcoin as like a way to save what money you had and protect it from money printing, you know, during a job outage? 86 00:05:45,320 --> 00:05:46,780 Or was it something else? 87 00:05:47,500 --> 00:05:50,920 No, it was more coming into it, looking at it for how do I make money? 88 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,340 You know, I'm going to be laid off from my job, you know, so what do I do? 89 00:05:54,340 --> 00:06:02,280 And that's why I went to the library, got books on the stock market and started reading all kinds of books about how do you invest in the stock market. 90 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:16,020 Started watching, what was it, CNMB Marketplace and Yahoo Finance and just trying to understand how to navigate the market so I can make money if I do get laid off from my job. 91 00:06:16,020 --> 00:06:23,180 So it's another way that I could secure myself of paying my rent, paying my car, paying things that I have to pay. 92 00:06:24,340 --> 00:06:28,000 I was listening to the Jack Mahler show. 93 00:06:28,080 --> 00:06:30,360 I've been listening to that recently, Alfredo. 94 00:06:30,840 --> 00:06:32,480 And he's been talking about... 95 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:33,120 Is that Mailbag Monday? 96 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:33,800 Yeah. 97 00:06:33,980 --> 00:06:36,160 I think it's really cool. 98 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:37,460 Yeah, you've been really hot on that lately. 99 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,820 I mean, I guess CEO of a gigantic company 100 00:06:40,820 --> 00:06:43,380 just hops on YouTube Live once a week 101 00:06:43,380 --> 00:06:46,200 and just says some real stuff. 102 00:06:46,360 --> 00:06:48,340 I mean, I think it's fascinating. 103 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:52,300 Anyway, that level of direct access is wild. 104 00:06:52,300 --> 00:06:59,320 But anyways, what he has been teaching me, and I've been working on Lynn Alden's Broken Money as well. 105 00:07:00,580 --> 00:07:12,780 I've been kind of realizing in my Bitcoin journey, because I'm about two years in, that America has basically turned into a financial apparatus. 106 00:07:13,420 --> 00:07:18,580 Like, we kind of hollowed out the middle class. 107 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:20,800 We hollowed out the working class. 108 00:07:20,800 --> 00:07:28,220 we shifted jobs to the financial services on the east coast and you know far future tech 109 00:07:28,220 --> 00:07:34,680 silicon valley vibes on the west coast and there's like not really much going on in the middle of the 110 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:42,240 country and you know i know that you are um based on the form that you filled out with us kind of in 111 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:49,660 the um you know you're you're in the space where you're you're not in finances you're not in tech 112 00:07:49,660 --> 00:08:01,240 You know, you're at risk of losing your job out of nowhere at the beginning of the pandemic because we're kind of messing everything up and hollowing it out and scooting it away. 113 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:16,860 And your response to potentially losing your job is to try to figure out how to make money through the financial services industry that kind of is potentially part of the reason why your job was at risk in the first place. 114 00:08:16,860 --> 00:08:24,680 You know, like, do you ever feel frustrated at the current state of America? 115 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:28,220 And do you feel like Bitcoin is a way to improve on that? 116 00:08:29,640 --> 00:08:33,580 Well, I mean, that all starts with in 2008 with the financial crisis. 117 00:08:33,580 --> 00:08:39,340 I mean, you know, there was a lot of worry moments there, you know, when a lot of people are losing their jobs. 118 00:08:39,380 --> 00:08:45,140 I mean, I got laid off and, you know, and actually that's a way that I too heard about Bitcoin. 119 00:08:45,140 --> 00:08:50,740 And, you know, when I got laid off then and went to school to try to figure out what was my next move to do. 120 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:54,400 And I just decided to, you know, go to school, do this. 121 00:08:54,460 --> 00:09:01,780 And every time I see it, every time we have a financial crisis going on, it's just more and more you see that money is being devalued. 122 00:09:01,780 --> 00:09:04,400 And it's just like, OK, what do you do? What do you do? 123 00:09:04,400 --> 00:09:19,900 You know, you try to figure out how to invest in assets or invest in something to make some money so that you can, you know, do what you have to do to pay bills, to take care of your family, to make sure that the people around you are OK and happy. 124 00:09:19,900 --> 00:09:27,700 And, you know, and that just definitely, definitely just, you know, is a reason why I've gotten into Bitcoin. 125 00:09:28,380 --> 00:09:30,780 Just because I realized that money is broken. 126 00:09:31,740 --> 00:09:35,820 Money has no real value anymore. 127 00:09:36,000 --> 00:09:45,800 You know, as much as they can keep printing it, keep creating it, keep giving it to the wealthy, not, you know, eliminating, like you said, the middle class. 128 00:09:46,340 --> 00:09:47,360 It's just like, what do you do? 129 00:09:47,420 --> 00:09:48,540 What is the hope anymore? 130 00:09:48,540 --> 00:09:55,960 And to me, Bitcoin gives you hope of like you can build a brighter future for your family, for the next generation. 131 00:09:56,180 --> 00:10:03,300 And that's a big key for me is building wealth for my family, for the next generation. 132 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:13,220 Sometimes, Alfredo, I feel like things are not looking so hot. 133 00:10:13,220 --> 00:10:18,560 and I think about previous times in history where they got to where they weren't so hot 134 00:10:18,560 --> 00:10:29,300 and I don't know exactly how much we can do to improve that before like you know the 135 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:36,860 the ceiling drops out and I have this personal belief that I can if I can secure enough resources 136 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:44,060 for me and my family, then we can like ride out whatever potential turbulence might be coming down 137 00:10:44,060 --> 00:10:54,280 the way. Yes. And for me, Bitcoin represents like a savings little nugget, you know, that I can have 138 00:10:54,280 --> 00:11:04,680 access to. Like, you know, I've read the big print by Larry Lepard as well. I mean, I try not to get 139 00:11:04,680 --> 00:11:11,980 two up in my head about like fourth turning, you know, nasty stretches and all that. But I'm like, 140 00:11:12,020 --> 00:11:16,420 I kind of want to prepare for it too, but it kind of wigs me out. Does that stuff wig you out? Do 141 00:11:16,420 --> 00:11:21,560 you think it's coming? Do you not think it's coming? I try not to get caught up in the doomsday 142 00:11:21,560 --> 00:11:26,520 scenarios of life because I've been hearing those all my life, you know, doomsday since I've been a 143 00:11:26,520 --> 00:11:32,220 kid, you know, it's going to be a nuclear war, you know, famines coming and this. I just try not 144 00:11:32,220 --> 00:11:36,700 to get caught up in that because I believe it's just the media and government propaganda and 145 00:11:36,700 --> 00:11:41,220 trying to scare us into, you know, believe in what they want because they want us to believe in them 146 00:11:41,220 --> 00:11:45,720 and believe in the system that's broken, you know, and they just want to keep pushing those agendas 147 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:50,180 and that. So I try not to get into that anymore. I used to believe a little bit in that 148 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:55,260 doomsday scenario stuff of like, you know, I want to get a bunker and go hide myself in a bunker. 149 00:11:55,440 --> 00:12:00,180 But when you really learn about it, the bunker is not going to save you. When you really understand 150 00:12:00,180 --> 00:12:05,880 what, you know, what happens with a nuclear bomb, a bunker is not going to save you. 151 00:12:06,100 --> 00:12:07,700 You can end up dying in the air and that. 152 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:10,540 So, you know, so I just try to focus on the future. 153 00:12:10,820 --> 00:12:15,080 I'm trying to stay focused on helping people, getting people involved in Bitcoin, 154 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:16,900 showing people there's a better way. 155 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,540 There's a hope, you know, that we can have better. 156 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:20,460 We can do better. 157 00:12:20,520 --> 00:12:21,640 We can be better. 158 00:12:21,700 --> 00:12:26,120 We can have abundant, you know, because that's what is the key, you know, to life. 159 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,720 I think it's just people having abundant. 160 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,740 So people aren't starving, people aren't poor, people aren't broken. 161 00:12:32,020 --> 00:12:40,280 You know, people are just happy with life and living their life and not worried about all this, you know, negative doomsday scenario of life. 162 00:12:42,220 --> 00:12:44,340 Alfredo, so I totally agree. 163 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,480 I think like the abundance of life is something that we all crave. 164 00:12:48,300 --> 00:13:10,176 And there this mentality I think for most of the generations It like you work for a certain number of years and then you retire And when you retire you do whatever it is you want to do And I feel like millennials are trying to fast track that by like we can have side 165 00:13:10,176 --> 00:13:15,536 hustles, we can make, we can bring in more money, we can try to survive in a different 166 00:13:15,536 --> 00:13:16,156 way. 167 00:13:16,696 --> 00:13:18,136 We can beat the game. 168 00:13:18,136 --> 00:13:25,356 and we can have a chance to have a great life later 169 00:13:25,356 --> 00:13:26,676 and also still now. 170 00:13:26,816 --> 00:13:27,396 It's sort of like a, 171 00:13:27,896 --> 00:13:30,736 I don't think we think that retirement is a thing. 172 00:13:30,976 --> 00:13:31,116 No. 173 00:13:31,436 --> 00:13:34,576 Like I do not, I don't think that way. 174 00:13:35,356 --> 00:13:35,596 No. 175 00:13:35,596 --> 00:13:38,056 And I think the generation behind us, 176 00:13:38,556 --> 00:13:40,736 generations now behind us, 177 00:13:41,216 --> 00:13:42,596 don't think that way either. 178 00:13:43,616 --> 00:13:45,776 By behind us, do you mean like the younger generations? 179 00:13:46,076 --> 00:13:46,576 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 180 00:13:46,576 --> 00:13:47,996 Like they're younger than we are. 181 00:13:48,136 --> 00:13:49,116 That's what this is. 182 00:13:49,436 --> 00:13:49,656 Okay. 183 00:13:49,936 --> 00:13:50,216 Yeah. 184 00:13:50,516 --> 00:13:50,976 That's interesting. 185 00:13:51,036 --> 00:13:52,596 I would say the ones that are ahead of us 186 00:13:52,596 --> 00:13:53,896 because they came after us. 187 00:13:54,456 --> 00:13:56,716 But anyways, interesting how we think about it. 188 00:13:56,736 --> 00:13:59,616 You go up the tree and not downstream. 189 00:13:59,856 --> 00:14:00,116 Exactly. 190 00:14:00,376 --> 00:14:00,576 Right. 191 00:14:00,856 --> 00:14:01,216 Right. 192 00:14:01,216 --> 00:14:05,956 So I'm curious, like, what do you want to do in your abundance? 193 00:14:07,016 --> 00:14:09,416 Like, what does that look like for you? 194 00:14:09,536 --> 00:14:13,356 And how, like, what kind of, what role does Bitcoin play in that? 195 00:14:13,356 --> 00:14:18,716 well what i want to do to get to that point is just start teaching people more and more about 196 00:14:18,716 --> 00:14:24,976 bitcoin getting them to understand bitcoin um you know uh that and i believe that all starts with 197 00:14:24,976 --> 00:14:29,496 mining you know mining is the key to bitcoin and that's where it all first started what satoshi 198 00:14:29,496 --> 00:14:34,576 did is load up the protocol into a miner on his computer or something and started running it you 199 00:14:34,576 --> 00:14:40,236 know and that's key to you know bitcoin and me and my friend were trying to set up a meetup 200 00:14:40,236 --> 00:14:42,376 to start teaching people about Bitcoin. 201 00:14:42,376 --> 00:14:46,396 And we're trying to come up with some interesting names to name it. 202 00:14:46,436 --> 00:14:48,816 So people want to come and not just think it's Bitcoin. 203 00:14:48,976 --> 00:14:49,496 I don't want to come. 204 00:14:49,896 --> 00:14:51,996 You know, it's like we're trying to encourage people to want to learn. 205 00:14:52,676 --> 00:14:57,456 And I think that's, you know, key is getting people to learn is an abundant way. 206 00:14:57,876 --> 00:15:01,576 Another way is we're looking to try to build businesses and companies 207 00:15:01,576 --> 00:15:05,456 so that we can help people to get to ideas of abundant, 208 00:15:05,556 --> 00:15:08,416 like abundant electricity, abundant food, you know. 209 00:15:08,416 --> 00:15:11,956 So we're just trying to come up with these ideals so that we can make that happen. 210 00:15:11,956 --> 00:15:24,676 And even using our Bitcoin that we have, you know, we we've started kind of like our own little treasury of Bitcoin off to the side, me and my friends, so that we can build this business in Bitcoin so that we can help people. 211 00:15:24,676 --> 00:15:32,556 Because what we want to do is try to get people as much involved as we can by either giving them some Bitcoin or showing them about mining. 212 00:15:32,556 --> 00:15:45,236 And then that way they can use that Bitcoin to, you know, buy something, offer some kind of service for someone to come and help them fix something in their house or just, you know, buy some food or just anything. 213 00:15:45,376 --> 00:15:49,316 Get some health, better health care, you know, pay for cheaper health care, all that. 214 00:15:49,436 --> 00:15:53,956 So when I think abundance, you know, I just think that everything's going to be cheaper, you know, 215 00:15:53,956 --> 00:15:56,996 and everything is going to be for the masses, you know, 216 00:15:56,996 --> 00:16:00,396 and there's not going to be this supply limit and, you know, 217 00:16:00,876 --> 00:16:02,336 price gouging and all that. 218 00:16:02,416 --> 00:16:05,876 It's just that everybody will have a chance at something, you know, 219 00:16:05,916 --> 00:16:10,236 and I think that's a better way to go with life than being the way we are 220 00:16:10,236 --> 00:16:12,696 today where it's all about my, my, mine. 221 00:16:12,836 --> 00:16:16,256 And it's just like, to me, that's just a bad attitude to have. 222 00:16:16,256 --> 00:16:26,596 so if you want to teach others about bitcoin and believe that understanding begins with mining 223 00:16:26,596 --> 00:16:32,656 and we and i and i do see the ocean t-shirt so shout out to the bitcoin mechanic he came on the 224 00:16:32,656 --> 00:16:39,416 show great episode barely got even a scooch of the way through his bitcoin barely run nuts run 225 00:16:39,416 --> 00:16:48,876 nuts um what do our brand new bitcoiners hank and lorraine in the audience need to know 226 00:16:48,876 --> 00:16:54,856 in the simplest way possible about mining what's the what are the first couple of foundational 227 00:16:54,856 --> 00:17:00,896 elements that you believe are important for people to grasp about mining bitcoin 228 00:17:00,896 --> 00:17:06,436 um just buy one of the mining machines you know i have one right here 229 00:17:06,436 --> 00:17:11,716 you know just buy one of these little guys you know and just easy to set up there's nothing 230 00:17:11,716 --> 00:17:18,236 really hard they give you instructions on how to set it up you just plug in a pool or you know if 231 00:17:18,236 --> 00:17:22,216 you want a solo mine you may have to learn a little bit about that but that's not hard to learn and 232 00:17:22,216 --> 00:17:27,156 you know once you get one of these little guys and plug it in and get a wallet and put in your 233 00:17:27,156 --> 00:17:31,936 wallet address and there you go you're mining you know and I think that's the easiest way to go about 234 00:17:31,936 --> 00:17:37,496 it for people to learn. I mean, there's nothing too technical like most people think today still 235 00:17:37,496 --> 00:17:41,916 that it's so technical to their mind. And it's like, no, all you need to do is buy one of these 236 00:17:41,916 --> 00:17:47,556 little guys, have a wallet, put in your address, download a pool and plug it in and let it run. 237 00:17:47,816 --> 00:17:54,696 Let it do its thing. And are you doing that because you want to earn some Satoshis? Are you 238 00:17:54,696 --> 00:17:59,676 doing that because you want to support the Bitcoin network and make sure it continues? Or 239 00:17:59,676 --> 00:18:03,456 is it, you know, kind of like how Satoshi set it up? It's a little bit of both. 240 00:18:04,956 --> 00:18:10,036 It's a little bit of everything. I mean, it's running to get some Satoshis helping people. 241 00:18:10,256 --> 00:18:14,196 It's getting people into mining so it does secure the network because that's what we need. 242 00:18:14,936 --> 00:18:19,076 It's also trying to, another way of getting people into mining now, me and my friend want 243 00:18:19,076 --> 00:18:23,596 to create a business is getting people to mine, paying us for our service. If we like, 244 00:18:23,596 --> 00:18:28,996 we're thinking of different things to do, like doing lawn care or doing maintenance, you know, 245 00:18:28,996 --> 00:18:33,216 little people need little things fixed around the house, like a light ball or a light fixture, 246 00:18:33,556 --> 00:18:38,316 or, you know, their sink is leaking, or they got a hot water tank leak. And instead of paying us in 247 00:18:38,316 --> 00:18:43,116 cash and that, I'd rather you pay me in Bitcoin, pay me in Satoshi. So, you know, we're thinking 248 00:18:43,116 --> 00:18:47,836 of ways of doing it like that. Like you start mining with us. And then if you have a problem 249 00:18:47,836 --> 00:18:52,836 under, you know, we come up with some contract and we just come over, we fix what it is. You don't 250 00:18:52,836 --> 00:18:58,336 have to pay us. You just keep mining with us, you know, or you mine. And then if you want to pay us 251 00:18:58,336 --> 00:19:01,736 in however you feel the value is, then you pay us. 252 00:19:02,336 --> 00:19:04,496 We're just trying to help people along 253 00:19:04,496 --> 00:19:06,816 with getting in the mining and helping people 254 00:19:06,816 --> 00:19:08,756 with problems they may have 255 00:19:08,756 --> 00:19:12,836 because of today's prices are just getting more and more expensive. 256 00:19:13,056 --> 00:19:15,236 So try to find a way to help people understand 257 00:19:15,236 --> 00:19:18,016 that there is a cheaper way to help you to fix things, 258 00:19:18,016 --> 00:19:21,656 to get food, to get your light fixed, 259 00:19:21,736 --> 00:19:23,956 get your car fixed, things like that. 260 00:19:24,016 --> 00:19:26,856 So we're looking at ways of doing things like that. 261 00:19:28,336 --> 00:19:34,636 If I take you back to when you became a brand new Bitcoin or Alfredo, did that change you? 262 00:19:35,396 --> 00:19:39,376 Did that create new habits or new beliefs? 263 00:19:41,836 --> 00:19:48,396 Did your kind of perception of what's valuable to focus on change? 264 00:19:51,336 --> 00:19:53,536 No, I mean, I was already focused. 265 00:19:54,036 --> 00:19:56,796 You know, I have to bring religion in this, but I believe in God. 266 00:19:56,796 --> 00:20:02,216 You know, as long as you have a God in your heart, you know, you just got to pray and, you know, that. 267 00:20:02,316 --> 00:20:09,476 But no, Bitcoin really just changed the way I think about money, the way I look at money, the way I see how money works in the world. 268 00:20:09,776 --> 00:20:14,196 You know, the way it's unfair. There's no middle class pretty much anymore. 269 00:20:14,636 --> 00:20:18,176 You know, and that's really the idea that Bitcoin gave me. 270 00:20:18,176 --> 00:20:29,836 And Bitcoin gave me hope that I could help people, you know, do things for themselves that they think they can't do today because of inflation, because of everything is so expensive, you know. 271 00:20:30,036 --> 00:20:41,616 And I just want to try to show people that, you know, and that's what Bitcoin gave me to give me the hope to show people how this system works and how it's a better system than the fiat system we live in today. 272 00:20:41,616 --> 00:20:49,976 how have you like as you were growing in your bitcoin knowledge and on your bitcoin journey 273 00:20:49,976 --> 00:20:57,776 um did you find allies along the way or were you sort of screaming in an echo chamber and 274 00:20:57,776 --> 00:21:02,156 everyone's like please stop talking about this thing like like a little a little like stewart 275 00:21:02,156 --> 00:21:08,236 with kristen like saying bitcoin bitcoin bitcoin driven kitty came on and mocked her dad by saying 276 00:21:08,236 --> 00:21:10,036 Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin, Bitcoin. 277 00:21:10,536 --> 00:21:12,016 That's what my dad says. 278 00:21:12,676 --> 00:21:17,576 And so did you like find a little tribe of people 279 00:21:17,576 --> 00:21:20,176 who were growing in their knowledge of Bitcoin 280 00:21:20,176 --> 00:21:22,876 or did you have to trailblaze on your own? 281 00:21:23,916 --> 00:21:25,336 I pretty much was on my own. 282 00:21:26,176 --> 00:21:28,076 When I started to learn about Bitcoin, 283 00:21:28,276 --> 00:21:30,116 you know, I started to learn from, like I said, 284 00:21:30,156 --> 00:21:32,936 from reading and watching YouTube videos and podcasts. 285 00:21:32,936 --> 00:21:36,036 But as I got learning about it and that, 286 00:21:36,136 --> 00:21:38,096 yeah, I tried to tell people about it, 287 00:21:38,096 --> 00:21:42,016 But again, people were like, oh, this thing, you know, it's a scam. 288 00:21:42,096 --> 00:21:43,016 It's a scam, you know. 289 00:21:43,076 --> 00:21:50,996 And I mean, I still try to talk to people today about it, but it's just it's still people just call it a scam, you know, and it's like, OK, you know. 290 00:21:50,996 --> 00:21:57,676 And a lot of that scam stuff just comes from the crap coins, you know, and people don't understand it and don't. 291 00:21:57,816 --> 00:21:59,336 Some people just don't want to understand. 292 00:21:59,796 --> 00:22:01,316 They, you know, believe in the dollar. 293 00:22:01,496 --> 00:22:03,736 But now I've been on it on my own, my journey. 294 00:22:03,736 --> 00:22:12,116 You know, I heard about Bitcoin in 2011 when I was, like I said, when I was going to school and that I was going for general studies and automotive technology. 295 00:22:12,496 --> 00:22:18,616 And I was in a computer lab and people were talking about it then when the Silk Road was going on at that time. 296 00:22:18,796 --> 00:22:26,376 And I kind of myself blew it off like it's a scam, you know, like, oh, no, this this thing sounds weird, you know. 297 00:22:26,376 --> 00:22:30,596 And then, you know, and then and then also in my journey, I'm going on my own. 298 00:22:31,136 --> 00:22:37,596 You know, before that, me and a couple of friends in 2016 tried to get involved with mining and Bitcoin. 299 00:22:37,776 --> 00:22:44,796 But we got caught up in the whole Bitcoin uses so much energy and it's going to earn the world or whatever, you know. 300 00:22:44,796 --> 00:22:54,656 And we didn't even get into it because we didn't go down the rabbit hole like I did in 2019 when I finally decided to say, OK, let me get a couple of ideas. 301 00:22:54,656 --> 00:22:59,836 Let me get a book. Let me watch this podcast and, you know, learn what Bitcoin is really about. 302 00:23:00,316 --> 00:23:03,896 And once I went down the rabbit hole, then I just kept going and going and going. 303 00:23:03,976 --> 00:23:07,156 And I'm still going today. I'm still going down the rabbit hole. I'm still learning. 304 00:23:07,476 --> 00:23:11,176 I'm still understanding. I'm still trying to understand everything about mining. 305 00:23:11,416 --> 00:23:20,416 There's a lot to understand. I mean, Ocean, they constantly are always, you know, giving you all kinds of things on mining and that. 306 00:23:20,416 --> 00:23:25,316 So I'm just like, OK, let me let me find out what's going on in this mining world right now. 307 00:23:25,316 --> 00:23:30,916 So I know what's going on and that. So but yeah, that's pretty much I've been on my own going down this rabbit hole. 308 00:23:30,916 --> 00:23:38,356 But preaching to people about Bitcoin, my friend that is involved with me trying to start a business with, you know, I preach to him. 309 00:23:38,496 --> 00:23:43,136 And once I hit that light bulb moment, you know, that's what I'm trying to do with people more. 310 00:23:43,236 --> 00:23:47,976 Now, when I talk to people about Bitcoin is just ask them questions about what they think about money. 311 00:23:47,976 --> 00:23:56,896 You know, and that all comes from watching videos from, you know, what is money from Robert Breedlove, you know, and Michael Sallar's episodes with him and that. 312 00:23:57,276 --> 00:24:03,576 And just ask people, what is money? And when people start to tell me, then I just ask them other questions like, well, what do you think about money? 313 00:24:03,676 --> 00:24:06,336 Why do you think money is this? Why do you think we have inflation? 314 00:24:06,876 --> 00:24:11,576 Why do you think, you know, why do you say that all the governments print, print, print, that's all they're going to do? 315 00:24:11,736 --> 00:24:17,016 But do you think there's something better we can do? Do you think there's something that is out there that can help us? 316 00:24:17,016 --> 00:24:25,696 And if I could try to just find that light bulb moment to help people to understand Bitcoin, then I'm always trying to figure that light bulb moment. 317 00:24:25,976 --> 00:24:37,476 And if I can give them, I always suggest things for them to read, books and stuff to read and that to try to help them along the way to the journey of where I came into Bitcoin and that so that it helps them along the way too. 318 00:24:38,896 --> 00:24:45,616 Did you start off trying to trade Bitcoin back in the early pandemic? 319 00:24:45,616 --> 00:24:51,016 Did you just go straight into dollar cost averaging once a week or once a month? 320 00:24:51,696 --> 00:24:56,376 What was your strategy to acquire Bitcoin as a brand new Bitcoiner? 321 00:24:56,576 --> 00:25:01,716 And have you learned anything since then that you kind of wish you had been doing since the beginning? 322 00:25:03,056 --> 00:25:08,636 Yeah, in the beginning, I kind of got caught up in some of the crap coins too. 323 00:25:09,096 --> 00:25:11,196 Because at that time, it was early still for me. 324 00:25:11,376 --> 00:25:12,276 I was still learning. 325 00:25:12,876 --> 00:25:16,116 So I started to trade them, you know, trying to catch the high, the low, you know. 326 00:25:17,016 --> 00:25:23,936 But eventually, once I started to learn about this and that I kind of more was in the Bitcoin just to save. 327 00:25:24,696 --> 00:25:28,476 That's where I learned, you know, over time, Bitcoin will grow. 328 00:25:28,976 --> 00:25:30,696 So I just wanted to save it for now. 329 00:25:30,776 --> 00:25:34,316 And then in the future, as I'm thinking, you know, OK, I could purchase this. 330 00:25:34,376 --> 00:25:39,196 I could buy this, you know, as long as I save my money and I got a better place to save my money. 331 00:25:39,536 --> 00:25:45,076 But all the crap coins in that, yeah, I tried to trade those and, you know, make money on them quick like everybody else did. 332 00:25:45,436 --> 00:25:52,496 But once I found out that they're pretty much a scam and, you know, it's all just a gambling game. 333 00:25:52,816 --> 00:25:54,396 It was like, I'm done with this. 334 00:25:54,436 --> 00:25:55,256 I don't want to gamble. 335 00:25:55,416 --> 00:26:13,632 I not a big gambler I really don care for gambling I don want to see people lose money You know I mean I got friends of mine that are millennials and they constantly gambling And I like dude you just you doing the wrong thing But they all you know they all hoping to get rich you know and they just have that get rich mentality you know 336 00:26:13,672 --> 00:26:21,532 And some of them are Bitcoin and some of them are a little in, you know, they got one foot in, one foot out, you know, you know, since I've talked to them and got them involved. 337 00:26:21,532 --> 00:26:24,852 But still, they're just thinking that, oh, man, when Bitcoin's going to go up? 338 00:26:24,852 --> 00:26:26,452 When Bitcoin's going to keep asking me that. 339 00:26:26,672 --> 00:26:31,212 But when I got involved with it, first got involved, no, I didn't really try to trade it. 340 00:26:31,272 --> 00:26:32,852 I just tried to trade the crap coins. 341 00:26:33,232 --> 00:26:40,232 I tried to save in Bitcoin more just because I knew that if I save and the price keeps going up, I can buy this. 342 00:26:40,312 --> 00:26:40,992 I could buy a house. 343 00:26:41,072 --> 00:26:42,352 I could buy some land. 344 00:26:42,452 --> 00:26:44,032 I could buy a new car. 345 00:26:44,252 --> 00:26:45,812 You know, I could take trips and that. 346 00:26:45,812 --> 00:26:51,272 So that's really what I got into Bitcoin was as a saving tool technology more than anything. 347 00:26:51,532 --> 00:27:01,632 i saw some content from uh nikki on maybe it was twitter she she's the one that does the gen z 348 00:27:01,632 --> 00:27:06,732 yeah the gen z style stuff yeah because you talked about how the millennial generation is 349 00:27:06,732 --> 00:27:13,312 kind of just like gambling and like gen z you know based on what she shared it's like even more so 350 00:27:13,312 --> 00:27:18,032 it's almost like exclusively what they think is going to help them make it in this world 351 00:27:18,032 --> 00:27:22,052 is just to like hit it big on their parlay or something. 352 00:27:22,052 --> 00:27:32,912 And, you know, encouragement to gamble on sports is like every other commercial on my streaming platforms right now, 353 00:27:33,072 --> 00:27:38,872 apart from medications that say they're going to cure a problem, 354 00:27:38,872 --> 00:27:42,752 but the side effect may also cause the problem all over again. 355 00:27:42,852 --> 00:27:43,792 It's like, ah, yes. 356 00:27:43,992 --> 00:27:45,232 What is going on here? 357 00:27:45,232 --> 00:27:55,192 you know with with with with gambling and with like get rich quick schemes it's like you know 358 00:27:55,192 --> 00:28:04,572 what man just stack sats and continue to work and continue to save and it happens slowly 359 00:28:04,572 --> 00:28:11,172 but it's sure to happen that's what I want to convey to brand new bitcoiners in the audience 360 00:28:11,172 --> 00:28:13,632 is like, guys, it's so simple. 361 00:28:13,952 --> 00:28:17,852 Instead of going down into the world of sports gambling 362 00:28:17,852 --> 00:28:21,072 or the world of the crypto casino 363 00:28:21,072 --> 00:28:23,752 and just trying to, 364 00:28:23,912 --> 00:28:26,152 or even the stock market can feel that way sometimes, 365 00:28:26,272 --> 00:28:27,912 depending on which platform you're on. 366 00:28:28,352 --> 00:28:31,772 It's like, just take the money 367 00:28:31,772 --> 00:28:34,492 that you can afford to not touch for a while, 368 00:28:34,772 --> 00:28:38,432 put it into Bitcoin and get back to your life, right? 369 00:28:38,432 --> 00:29:02,092 But then we run into moments like this where we are 42% off the all-time highs and suddenly people are now like, yeah, Stuart, but like what happens if I've been saving in Bitcoin for the past three to four months and my savings are down by 40%? 370 00:29:02,092 --> 00:29:07,612 I mean, you might as well throw $100 on tonight's game to see if you can make $1,000. 371 00:29:08,452 --> 00:29:11,492 How do you feel about this most recent dip? 372 00:29:11,592 --> 00:29:13,612 Have you gone through other dips before? 373 00:29:13,952 --> 00:29:18,552 Do you have advice for brand new Bitcoiners who are kind of dealing with their feelings? 374 00:29:18,672 --> 00:29:20,832 Or even pre-coiners who were like, you know what? 375 00:29:20,912 --> 00:29:23,312 See, that's why I'm never going to stack my first sats. 376 00:29:24,412 --> 00:29:29,012 I think you just have to basically go in with an attitude of dollar cost averaging. 377 00:29:29,012 --> 00:29:32,552 and just get into your first savings. 378 00:29:32,832 --> 00:29:33,932 Put $10 in. 379 00:29:34,292 --> 00:29:36,092 Like I tell some people, just put a dollar in. 380 00:29:36,532 --> 00:29:38,892 You can go on Cash App, buy it for a dollar, 381 00:29:39,472 --> 00:29:41,032 put in for a dollar, buy a dollar worth, 382 00:29:41,112 --> 00:29:42,732 buy $10 worth, just let it sit there. 383 00:29:42,852 --> 00:29:45,312 Let it see what it does for the next couple of years. 384 00:29:45,312 --> 00:29:48,212 And if you see you wanna get into it more, 385 00:29:48,312 --> 00:29:48,972 then buy more. 386 00:29:49,492 --> 00:29:52,392 But I just try to tell people the dollar cost averaging. 387 00:29:53,172 --> 00:29:56,312 Don't get scared of the volatility in Bitcoin. 388 00:29:56,512 --> 00:29:58,132 It's just part of the nature right now 389 00:29:58,132 --> 00:30:02,052 because you have people who are just trying to sell it out 390 00:30:02,052 --> 00:30:05,712 or you have big corporations trying to fluctuate the price a little bit 391 00:30:05,712 --> 00:30:08,172 to scare people out so they can buy more cheaper. 392 00:30:09,012 --> 00:30:10,692 But no, I buy the dip. 393 00:30:10,852 --> 00:30:12,692 You know, I buy the dip. 394 00:30:12,852 --> 00:30:14,532 I think this is a great opportunity to keep buying. 395 00:30:14,672 --> 00:30:15,812 I'm still buying. 396 00:30:15,892 --> 00:30:16,992 I buy every day I can. 397 00:30:17,172 --> 00:30:19,852 You know, anytime I got some money, anytime I'm earning some money, 398 00:30:19,872 --> 00:30:21,692 I just take it and I buy Bitcoin. 399 00:30:21,852 --> 00:30:24,472 After I pay all my bills, I buy Bitcoin. 400 00:30:24,732 --> 00:30:26,532 So I'm just buying the dip. 401 00:30:26,532 --> 00:30:31,212 I think this is a great opportunity to get in for a lot of, you know, no Bitcoiners. 402 00:30:31,612 --> 00:30:33,632 I think it's a great opportunity to just buy. 403 00:30:33,732 --> 00:30:38,792 Like I said, buy a dollar worth, buy a $10 worth, buy a hundred dollars worth and just sit on that if you want. 404 00:30:38,852 --> 00:30:41,452 Just let it go and see what happens, you know. 405 00:30:41,512 --> 00:30:47,392 And I guarantee Bitcoin is going to go up, you know, and it's going to go down, but it's going to go up. 406 00:30:47,552 --> 00:30:53,572 And even if it does go up, you know, I mean, when you really learn about Bitcoin, you know, you're not worried about the price, you know. 407 00:30:53,572 --> 00:30:58,972 and I'm not really worried about the price because how I understand Bitcoin, I'm Bitcoin is my money. 408 00:30:59,372 --> 00:31:01,332 Bitcoin is the money I'm going to use for the future. 409 00:31:01,672 --> 00:31:07,572 Bitcoin is the money I'm trying to teach my kids, my grandkids about the future of because that's their money, you know, 410 00:31:07,572 --> 00:31:10,232 and I really don't care too much about the price. 411 00:31:10,352 --> 00:31:14,452 But if you want to get in and you want to chase the price action, then this is a perfect time to get in. 412 00:31:14,732 --> 00:31:17,432 Because say in the next year or so, the price goes up. 413 00:31:17,492 --> 00:31:19,932 Now you're $100 turned into $110. 414 00:31:20,452 --> 00:31:22,252 So you gain an investment, you know. 415 00:31:22,252 --> 00:31:45,212 But if it goes down a little bit, just sit there. I mean, you know, to say this, I have a bet with a friend. What was it back in 2023? He was talking to me. We were going through the scam thing with, you know, all the scam coins. And I have a bet and I bet him $100. He puts $100 in a savings account. 416 00:31:45,212 --> 00:31:48,812 At that moment, I think the interest rate was two point something. 417 00:31:49,312 --> 00:31:50,852 And I put $100 in Bitcoin. 418 00:31:51,272 --> 00:31:54,172 And in 10 years from then, he's got to pay me up. 419 00:31:54,352 --> 00:32:02,192 So, you know, and he's got to pay me up because my Bitcoin is up and his savings account is pretty much nowhere. 420 00:32:03,492 --> 00:32:04,572 So, you know. 421 00:32:05,532 --> 00:32:10,692 It's actually less than nowhere because they've printed money since the beginning of that bet, right? 422 00:32:10,692 --> 00:32:18,352 So I keep thinking too about how you focus on a more abundant mindset. 423 00:32:18,712 --> 00:32:20,192 My dad's the same way. 424 00:32:20,872 --> 00:32:30,952 He talks about how, you know, his cup overfloweth, which is, you know, that is like a Bibble level thing that's going on there. 425 00:32:32,252 --> 00:32:32,812 Biblical? 426 00:32:33,112 --> 00:32:34,412 Is that what you tried to say? 427 00:32:34,552 --> 00:32:34,892 Or did you? 428 00:32:35,112 --> 00:32:36,072 The bibs. 429 00:32:36,192 --> 00:32:36,652 The bibs. 430 00:32:36,652 --> 00:32:37,532 Come from the bibs. 431 00:32:37,572 --> 00:32:37,892 Okay. 432 00:32:37,892 --> 00:32:39,472 I just needed to clarify. 433 00:32:40,072 --> 00:32:40,172 Okay. 434 00:32:40,172 --> 00:32:55,552 It's coming from the Bibble. So, you know, when I think about the future, Alfredo, I kind of view Bitcoin as a savings account for me and for my son and for my daughter, for my grandkids, for my great grandkids. 435 00:32:55,552 --> 00:32:59,732 when I think about an abundant style of mindset, 436 00:32:59,732 --> 00:33:05,152 because it is so easy to get sucked down into doom scrolling, 437 00:33:05,952 --> 00:33:09,852 into news headlines, you know, into, 438 00:33:10,272 --> 00:33:11,712 hey, here's what I want. 439 00:33:11,812 --> 00:33:14,172 You know, people focus more on what's wrong than what's right. 440 00:33:14,172 --> 00:33:19,992 So that's pretty much what we get fed by traditional and online sources, right? 441 00:33:20,192 --> 00:33:23,172 Which is really rough. 442 00:33:23,172 --> 00:33:35,792 But when I zoom out from that, you know, we got we got Elon making a thousand starships that he wants to shoot at planet Mars. 443 00:33:36,032 --> 00:33:40,132 Sure. With humans on top. Like that's amazing. 444 00:33:41,192 --> 00:33:48,932 That is something. Yeah. You know, we do have the ability to cure quite a good, clean amount of diseases these days. 445 00:33:48,932 --> 00:33:50,612 and if you 446 00:33:50,612 --> 00:33:51,652 you know 447 00:33:51,652 --> 00:33:52,852 saw our episode 448 00:33:52,852 --> 00:33:53,712 with Brandon 449 00:33:53,712 --> 00:33:55,172 mushrooms 450 00:33:55,172 --> 00:33:57,272 and fungi 451 00:33:57,272 --> 00:33:58,352 or fungi 452 00:33:58,352 --> 00:33:59,892 are master 453 00:33:59,892 --> 00:34:00,632 chemists 454 00:34:00,632 --> 00:34:01,112 that 455 00:34:01,112 --> 00:34:02,072 are 456 00:34:02,072 --> 00:34:02,932 you know 457 00:34:02,932 --> 00:34:04,132 gonna help us 458 00:34:04,132 --> 00:34:05,712 live even longer 459 00:34:05,712 --> 00:34:06,852 and be even healthier 460 00:34:06,852 --> 00:34:08,332 and it's a whole wild world 461 00:34:08,332 --> 00:34:08,912 out there 462 00:34:08,912 --> 00:34:11,292 I do think that 463 00:34:11,292 --> 00:34:12,152 the internet 464 00:34:12,152 --> 00:34:13,952 kind of took 465 00:34:13,952 --> 00:34:15,552 all these different 466 00:34:15,552 --> 00:34:16,952 pockets of information 467 00:34:16,952 --> 00:34:17,792 and kind of 468 00:34:17,792 --> 00:34:22,112 unlock them to where everyone can access them. 469 00:34:22,472 --> 00:34:24,592 And these days I have artificial intelligence 470 00:34:24,592 --> 00:34:28,012 that's helping me get stronger physically. 471 00:34:28,452 --> 00:34:32,372 It's helping me deal with my mind 472 00:34:32,372 --> 00:34:35,292 when there's too many thoughts and fears 473 00:34:35,292 --> 00:34:37,452 and competing priorities going on. 474 00:34:37,692 --> 00:34:41,532 It's helping me stay out of trouble with my wife, right? 475 00:34:42,112 --> 00:34:44,312 It's helping me build more powerful decks 476 00:34:44,312 --> 00:34:46,072 with my Magic the Gathering collection. 477 00:34:46,212 --> 00:34:46,772 Let's be honest. 478 00:34:46,772 --> 00:34:47,372 Thankfully. 479 00:34:47,892 --> 00:34:52,152 I mean, my Lathril deck was insane this weekend 480 00:34:52,152 --> 00:34:55,392 using cards only in my own collection, thanks to AI. 481 00:34:55,612 --> 00:34:56,052 Nuts. 482 00:34:56,372 --> 00:35:00,172 So I feel like we are headed for a better future on the whole. 483 00:35:00,992 --> 00:35:06,012 I also know that our money supply is just going to get worse over time. 484 00:35:06,012 --> 00:35:25,872 So Bitcoin can help me and my kin kind of make it through this next stage of humanity until we can all kind of upgrade as a human race to better money, right? 485 00:35:25,872 --> 00:35:37,012 Like, I don't really feel the need to predict any kind of disaster moment where, you know, Lynn Alden's kind of nothing can stop this train, Larry Lippard's the big print, fourth turning stuff. 486 00:35:37,312 --> 00:35:50,532 My hope is that we will all see that Bitcoin is superior long before the fiat game kind of blows up in the nation state's face, right? 487 00:35:50,532 --> 00:35:55,992 so that's where yeah and that's where i think that you know i think that people need to start 488 00:35:55,992 --> 00:36:01,272 more the bitcoin community we just need to start building more in bitcoin you know and that's one 489 00:36:01,272 --> 00:36:05,792 thing that i'm seeing that some of us are not doing because we're too busy arguing about certain 490 00:36:05,792 --> 00:36:10,132 things or certain politics and i just really think that we need to just start building and showing 491 00:36:10,132 --> 00:36:15,132 people that when we build this though you know like they used to say it was the same they say a 492 00:36:15,132 --> 00:36:18,872 long time when i was a kid if you build it they will come you know and i feel like that's what we 493 00:36:18,872 --> 00:36:22,512 need to start doing more is just build things. And that's what me and my friend are trying to do 494 00:36:22,512 --> 00:36:26,972 with our businesses. We're trying to build things where we want to build a community. We want to 495 00:36:26,972 --> 00:36:32,412 build it where people, you know, have abundant food and that, you know, build a community where 496 00:36:32,412 --> 00:36:37,232 people just have electricity that's abundant, you know, and, and things like that, build the 497 00:36:37,232 --> 00:36:43,032 community of, you know, just having all kinds of things go on, you know, and people just getting 498 00:36:43,032 --> 00:36:47,652 along and helping each other along the way, you know, fixing things and that, and that's where 499 00:36:47,652 --> 00:36:55,892 I think more we just need to build a circular economy in Bitcoin, you know, and that's what me and my friend are trying to build a circular economy. 500 00:36:56,232 --> 00:37:01,672 And we want to start, you know, building that because I think that'll show people what Bitcoin is. 501 00:37:01,752 --> 00:37:15,772 You know, once you get that circular economy going and, you know, you can go over here and buy eggs or buy a pair of pants or buy this or get your hair cut or, you know, buy this or fix this or get new windows in your house and that. 502 00:37:15,772 --> 00:37:20,852 And I just think we need to really, really start building a circular economy more and more in Bitcoin. 503 00:37:21,072 --> 00:37:27,752 And that's where I think, too, we need to start, you know, getting into the lessons of just trying to reach people by teaching. 504 00:37:28,172 --> 00:37:31,772 And, you know, that's what your channel is for, you know, and I love what you guys do. 505 00:37:31,872 --> 00:37:35,252 You know, you guys are really reaching people and showing people about Bitcoin. 506 00:37:35,432 --> 00:37:43,352 And I think that's what we need more and more in the Bitcoin community and stop having all this divide and nonsense and just focus on the main goal. 507 00:37:43,352 --> 00:37:47,152 getting out of the broken system because the system is broken. 508 00:37:48,292 --> 00:37:49,192 Yeah, yeah. 509 00:37:49,312 --> 00:37:56,252 I would love to see a local Bitcoin economy 510 00:37:56,252 --> 00:37:59,832 where it could even be down to the level of like 511 00:37:59,832 --> 00:38:02,272 just a small neighborhood, you know, 512 00:38:02,632 --> 00:38:04,872 up there in the state of New York 513 00:38:04,872 --> 00:38:08,872 where the individual homeowners in that community 514 00:38:08,872 --> 00:38:12,332 are kind of swapping Satoshi's back and forth for, 515 00:38:12,332 --> 00:38:20,112 Like how cool would it be if some dad pays another dad's kid some Satoshis to mow the lawn? 516 00:38:20,432 --> 00:38:21,192 You know what I mean? 517 00:38:22,132 --> 00:38:23,672 Like that would be so cool. 518 00:38:23,772 --> 00:38:28,692 And then, yeah, like you said, take it down to the local baker, get you a loaf of bread for some Satoshis. 519 00:38:28,812 --> 00:38:40,312 I mean, for me, one of the most powerful aspects of Bitcoin is the fact that you can completely sidestep the current system 520 00:38:40,312 --> 00:38:44,932 and just go back to, you can kind of go forward into a more futuristic world, 521 00:38:45,052 --> 00:38:49,512 but you can also kind of go backward to a time like in the Middle Ages 522 00:38:49,512 --> 00:38:52,332 where you had some gold and silver coins. 523 00:38:52,332 --> 00:39:26,928 The government could not print those or control it in any meaningful way The government needed to kind of provide services or protection to these to these you know regular people in the town and the countryside in exchange for their taxes to but the taxes were then used to kind of continue to provide those services So you know it almost like governments had razor thin profit margins so to speak unless there was you know a corrupt individual in power 524 00:39:27,428 --> 00:39:29,948 Arguably, I think the government shouldn't have profit margins. 525 00:39:31,148 --> 00:39:31,708 But carry on. 526 00:39:32,088 --> 00:39:39,528 Well, the point I'm trying to make here is it just feels super powerful for me, 527 00:39:40,088 --> 00:39:45,848 for individuals to exchange their money one to the other directly 528 00:39:45,848 --> 00:39:50,248 and be able to count on it to be as good as it was when they gave it away. 529 00:39:50,788 --> 00:39:51,108 You know what I mean? 530 00:39:51,108 --> 00:39:52,828 That's the whole white paper. 531 00:39:52,988 --> 00:39:56,768 I mean, Satoshi wrote peer-to-peer electronic cash systems. 532 00:39:56,928 --> 00:40:05,108 So, you know, and that's what Bitcoin is about, being peer to peer with each other, you know, exchanging Bitcoin from one another to one another to one another. 533 00:40:05,108 --> 00:40:10,028 So and that's the beauty of the technology. I don't have to go through no third party. 534 00:40:10,148 --> 00:40:16,328 I don't have to go to the bank, withdraw my money and pay you for something I want or write a check. 535 00:40:16,448 --> 00:40:18,448 You know, that's kind of old to me, too. 536 00:40:18,588 --> 00:40:26,108 You know, and I think, you know, what Satoshi created with Bitcoin is a beautiful, great thing, a hopeful thing, you know. 537 00:40:26,108 --> 00:40:37,508 And I just hope more and more Bitcoiners build and design things in Bitcoin, you know, and that way we'll keep reaching people and people keep coming and realizing what Bitcoin really is. 538 00:40:37,508 --> 00:40:39,828 is there 539 00:40:39,828 --> 00:40:41,388 that makes me think of 540 00:40:41,388 --> 00:40:43,128 like just wonder 541 00:40:43,128 --> 00:40:44,248 is there like a 542 00:40:44,248 --> 00:40:44,808 a website 543 00:40:44,808 --> 00:40:45,968 or a service already 544 00:40:45,968 --> 00:40:46,848 that collects 545 00:40:46,848 --> 00:40:48,248 um 546 00:40:48,248 --> 00:40:50,408 uh 547 00:40:50,408 --> 00:40:51,708 businesses 548 00:40:51,708 --> 00:40:52,948 that are like 549 00:40:52,948 --> 00:40:54,328 from 550 00:40:54,328 --> 00:40:56,388 yard people 551 00:40:56,388 --> 00:40:57,568 to plumbers 552 00:40:57,568 --> 00:40:58,568 to HVAC 553 00:40:58,568 --> 00:40:59,448 like 554 00:40:59,448 --> 00:41:00,488 service workers 555 00:41:00,488 --> 00:41:00,828 that 556 00:41:00,828 --> 00:41:02,548 that will 557 00:41:02,548 --> 00:41:03,708 that will accept 558 00:41:03,708 --> 00:41:04,648 Bitcoin 559 00:41:04,648 --> 00:41:06,008 I've been looking 560 00:41:06,008 --> 00:41:07,068 I would love that 561 00:41:07,068 --> 00:41:07,388 yeah 562 00:41:07,388 --> 00:41:08,608 Yeah, I've been looking for that. 563 00:41:09,208 --> 00:41:10,888 It's like, what is that website? 564 00:41:11,348 --> 00:41:12,028 Angie's List? 565 00:41:12,208 --> 00:41:15,588 You know, like, hire someone to come in and, you know, they do some work. 566 00:41:15,928 --> 00:41:17,148 It would really be Satoshi's List. 567 00:41:17,288 --> 00:41:17,888 That would be cool. 568 00:41:18,028 --> 00:41:18,448 That would be cool. 569 00:41:19,008 --> 00:41:19,408 Nice. 570 00:41:19,888 --> 00:41:20,388 I like the name. 571 00:41:20,908 --> 00:41:27,428 I've seen on Noster once or twice a map of all the retail places, 572 00:41:27,608 --> 00:41:30,348 like coffee shops and restaurants that will accept Bitcoin. 573 00:41:30,448 --> 00:41:32,568 But I haven't seen, like, a services list. 574 00:41:32,648 --> 00:41:33,028 Yeah, exactly. 575 00:41:33,028 --> 00:41:33,988 Even in Cash App. 576 00:41:34,228 --> 00:41:35,528 Yeah, you have it in Cash App, too. 577 00:41:35,528 --> 00:41:38,148 You have a, where all the services is now, 578 00:41:38,228 --> 00:41:39,668 because Jack Dorsey opened that up 579 00:41:39,668 --> 00:41:42,468 and you can see where they accept Bitcoin for coffee 580 00:41:42,468 --> 00:41:44,428 or a sandwich or something, you know? 581 00:41:44,968 --> 00:41:45,308 Right. 582 00:41:45,588 --> 00:41:46,708 Hmm, very cool. 583 00:41:46,968 --> 00:41:47,188 Yeah. 584 00:41:47,468 --> 00:41:48,748 Well, I would like to see- 585 00:41:48,748 --> 00:41:49,788 Maybe I had a noodle on that. 586 00:41:49,848 --> 00:41:50,988 That's going to be Alfredo's list. 587 00:41:51,088 --> 00:41:51,568 Angie's list, yeah. 588 00:41:51,848 --> 00:41:52,568 You need to make that. 589 00:41:52,868 --> 00:41:54,948 Alfredo's, forget Angie, we need Alfredo's list. 590 00:41:55,268 --> 00:41:55,808 Alfredo's list. 591 00:41:56,268 --> 00:41:59,308 Now, Alfredo, there's so much to Bitcoin 592 00:41:59,308 --> 00:42:00,888 that it's clear we'll never fit it 593 00:42:00,888 --> 00:42:02,368 into a single chat about sats. 594 00:42:02,368 --> 00:42:05,088 So we do ask each of our guests 595 00:42:05,088 --> 00:42:08,788 if they'd be willing to come back on in nine months 596 00:42:08,788 --> 00:42:11,188 to give us an update on their Bitcoin baby. 597 00:42:11,308 --> 00:42:12,548 Would you be willing to do that? 598 00:42:13,208 --> 00:42:13,928 Yes, sure. 599 00:42:14,548 --> 00:42:15,228 Let's go. 600 00:42:15,748 --> 00:42:15,948 Fantastic. 601 00:42:15,948 --> 00:42:18,948 Now, in a minute, we're going to ask you to give us your two sats 602 00:42:18,948 --> 00:42:23,008 so that we can kind of give brand new Bitcoiners a peek 603 00:42:23,008 --> 00:42:25,528 into what you think is going to happen over the next nine. 604 00:42:25,748 --> 00:42:27,168 But before we do that, 605 00:42:27,648 --> 00:42:30,228 we need to have ourselves a couple of num-nums over here. 606 00:42:30,228 --> 00:42:30,728 A little. 607 00:42:30,728 --> 00:42:40,268 all the asmr uh so this is our our by the dip moment sponsor Ithaca hummus 608 00:42:40,268 --> 00:42:48,408 uh reminding us to buy the dip which is a really lovely time it's been nice that our by the dip 609 00:42:48,408 --> 00:42:54,008 moment sponsor has had so many opportunities for that to be spot on we we've really worked 610 00:42:54,008 --> 00:42:59,528 hard on by the dip Ithaca by the dip by the dip by the dip all right so we are tasting in the 611 00:42:59,528 --> 00:43:05,528 studio as your virtual taste buds the lemon dill here we go cheers cheers 612 00:43:05,528 --> 00:43:24,428 that dill flavor is so bright so bright it's herbaceous oh look at you with the words you 613 00:43:24,428 --> 00:43:29,088 know what i want mouthfeel it's good it's good it's creamy it's good yeah and kind of what came 614 00:43:29,088 --> 00:43:29,868 to me, Alfredo, 615 00:43:29,888 --> 00:43:30,408 is the first time 616 00:43:30,408 --> 00:43:30,888 it's happened. 617 00:43:31,328 --> 00:43:32,288 As I was staring 618 00:43:32,288 --> 00:43:33,308 at that fat glob 619 00:43:33,308 --> 00:43:34,708 of lemon dill. 620 00:43:34,928 --> 00:43:35,248 Mm-hmm. 621 00:43:35,448 --> 00:43:35,768 Mm-hmm. 622 00:43:36,808 --> 00:43:37,888 I want to make 623 00:43:37,888 --> 00:43:39,548 some deviled eggs 624 00:43:39,548 --> 00:43:40,428 with this stuff. 625 00:43:40,628 --> 00:43:41,768 Ooh, interesting thought. 626 00:43:41,908 --> 00:43:42,148 Like, 627 00:43:42,428 --> 00:43:42,888 because I know 628 00:43:42,888 --> 00:43:44,368 there's like a mayonnaise step 629 00:43:44,368 --> 00:43:46,228 in the deviled egg moment 630 00:43:46,228 --> 00:43:46,988 with the yolks 631 00:43:46,988 --> 00:43:47,788 and the mayonnaise 632 00:43:47,788 --> 00:43:48,348 and other stuff. 633 00:43:48,448 --> 00:43:48,668 Mm-hmm. 634 00:43:48,908 --> 00:43:49,308 Personally, 635 00:43:49,468 --> 00:43:50,308 I think Ithaca hummus 636 00:43:50,308 --> 00:43:51,388 could kill mayonnaise. 637 00:43:52,168 --> 00:43:52,368 Mm-hmm. 638 00:43:52,488 --> 00:43:53,348 You've been a believer 639 00:43:53,348 --> 00:43:54,308 in that for quite some time. 640 00:43:54,408 --> 00:43:55,248 I think Ithaca hummus 641 00:43:55,248 --> 00:43:57,008 could end that condiment 642 00:43:57,008 --> 00:43:57,868 for life. 643 00:43:57,868 --> 00:44:00,788 and specifically with the lemon dill 644 00:44:00,788 --> 00:44:02,728 because it's got that herby note, right? 645 00:44:02,868 --> 00:44:03,408 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 646 00:44:03,408 --> 00:44:06,308 I think that would go really well with eggs. 647 00:44:06,388 --> 00:44:11,888 And if I could make a Ithaca hummus lemon dill deviled egg, 648 00:44:11,948 --> 00:44:13,368 I bet that would slap. 649 00:44:14,048 --> 00:44:16,168 Well, I think that you should do that. 650 00:44:16,748 --> 00:44:18,868 You should just go ahead and experiment about that 651 00:44:18,868 --> 00:44:20,148 and tell the folks at home. 652 00:44:20,748 --> 00:44:23,908 Well, Annabella knows intimately how I work. 653 00:44:24,328 --> 00:44:27,908 Now that I've solved the problem by having the idea. 654 00:44:28,248 --> 00:44:28,988 It's done. 655 00:44:29,428 --> 00:44:30,528 I'm no longer interested. 656 00:44:30,868 --> 00:44:31,508 No longer. 657 00:44:31,528 --> 00:44:33,828 I'll never actually do that myself. 658 00:44:34,388 --> 00:44:37,908 But somebody should do it and let us know how it goes. 659 00:44:37,968 --> 00:44:41,448 Because personally, my contribution is I had the idea. 660 00:44:42,068 --> 00:44:43,268 Now here you are. 661 00:44:43,408 --> 00:44:44,048 Right, right. 662 00:44:44,148 --> 00:44:46,428 Alfredo, have you ever had any Ithaca hummus? 663 00:44:47,308 --> 00:44:48,588 No, I haven't yet. 664 00:44:49,488 --> 00:44:52,128 Was our show the first time you ever heard about it? 665 00:44:52,708 --> 00:44:53,048 Yes. 666 00:44:53,368 --> 00:44:53,988 Yes, it was. 667 00:44:54,308 --> 00:44:54,908 Yes, it was. 668 00:44:55,668 --> 00:44:58,108 Dude, especially up there in upstate New York, man. 669 00:44:58,148 --> 00:45:00,188 You got to rep this Ithaca hummus, man. 670 00:45:00,208 --> 00:45:02,208 I actually seen it in the store and I meant to buy it, 671 00:45:02,208 --> 00:45:04,768 but then I forgot to go back and get some. 672 00:45:05,108 --> 00:45:06,988 But once I go again to the store, 673 00:45:07,068 --> 00:45:08,428 I definitely got to get some and try it. 674 00:45:09,048 --> 00:45:09,668 A hundred percent. 675 00:45:09,808 --> 00:45:10,128 Absolutely. 676 00:45:10,428 --> 00:45:11,848 And then come back to your episode 677 00:45:11,848 --> 00:45:13,448 and tell us what flavor you got 678 00:45:13,448 --> 00:45:14,748 and how much you loved it. 679 00:45:15,008 --> 00:45:15,328 Yes. 680 00:45:15,388 --> 00:45:16,868 Well, maybe I'll just try it on the episode 681 00:45:16,868 --> 00:45:18,008 with you guys next time, too. 682 00:45:18,148 --> 00:45:18,508 Yeah. 683 00:45:19,088 --> 00:45:19,908 There we go. 684 00:45:19,908 --> 00:45:22,988 And honestly, and I don't want to overwhelm Anna Bevin here, 685 00:45:23,388 --> 00:45:27,828 but I'm hoping that maybe not by your nine-month Bitcoin baby update. 686 00:45:27,908 --> 00:45:28,268 Thank you. 687 00:45:28,448 --> 00:45:32,648 But by your 18-month Bitcoin toddler update, 688 00:45:32,728 --> 00:45:37,388 we're in a place where we can just send you a drone 689 00:45:37,388 --> 00:45:40,168 that has Ithaca hummus attached to it. 690 00:45:40,668 --> 00:45:41,088 And it'll just... 691 00:45:41,088 --> 00:45:41,628 That would be cool. 692 00:45:41,968 --> 00:45:45,128 It'll just boomerang onto your front stoop and be like, 693 00:45:45,128 --> 00:45:47,508 okay, hey, your episode's in five minutes. 694 00:45:47,608 --> 00:45:48,748 This sucker's fridge cold. 695 00:45:48,888 --> 00:45:49,728 Like, here we go, baby. 696 00:45:49,908 --> 00:45:50,608 That's exciting. 697 00:45:50,948 --> 00:45:51,868 That would be cool. 698 00:45:51,988 --> 00:45:54,068 How advanced and elite would that be? 699 00:45:54,068 --> 00:45:58,808 I will go on that dream exploration with you. 700 00:45:58,888 --> 00:46:00,708 That sounds very elite. 701 00:46:00,788 --> 00:46:01,068 Okay. 702 00:46:01,668 --> 00:46:02,168 Talk to you. 703 00:46:02,348 --> 00:46:03,908 We're dreaming about certain things 704 00:46:03,908 --> 00:46:06,068 that are about 18 months from now or so. 705 00:46:06,348 --> 00:46:06,748 Yes. 706 00:46:07,088 --> 00:46:07,708 Know what I mean? 707 00:46:07,948 --> 00:46:08,648 Yeah, I love that. 708 00:46:08,668 --> 00:46:08,968 Right? 709 00:46:09,068 --> 00:46:09,248 Yeah. 710 00:46:09,328 --> 00:46:11,608 We're just trying to build things up more 711 00:46:11,608 --> 00:46:12,828 than they currently are. 712 00:46:12,908 --> 00:46:13,088 Correct. 713 00:46:13,088 --> 00:46:15,168 You know, around the 18 month. 714 00:46:15,528 --> 00:46:16,248 Around it. 715 00:46:16,328 --> 00:46:16,548 Right? 716 00:46:16,688 --> 00:46:17,368 See what I did there? 717 00:46:17,368 --> 00:46:17,808 All right. 718 00:46:17,808 --> 00:46:21,548 Now, it's time for your two sats, Alfredo. 719 00:46:22,008 --> 00:46:28,788 What do you think is going to happen over the next nine months that a brand new Bitcoiner should start caring about now? 720 00:46:31,248 --> 00:46:36,008 I just think that, you know, in nine months, Bitcoin is just going to keep growing. 721 00:46:37,148 --> 00:46:41,608 I see that, you know, the price will be whatever it is for people who want to get in. 722 00:46:41,648 --> 00:46:42,748 And I think they should just get in. 723 00:46:42,748 --> 00:46:47,288 This is a great opportunity because who knows, in nine months, the price may go up. 724 00:46:47,288 --> 00:46:55,088 And then if you're a person looking to, you know, invest and try to get some kind of money to help you, that would be the time to get in as time as now. 725 00:46:55,628 --> 00:47:02,528 I think, you know, next future or so nine months, I just think Bitcoin's going to continue to do what it does. 726 00:47:02,728 --> 00:47:05,808 I think it's just going to show people more and more what it's about. 727 00:47:05,948 --> 00:47:09,548 And more and more people are just going to get involved as time goes on. 728 00:47:09,688 --> 00:47:14,628 So I think that'll happen in the next, you know, so months, nine months or so. 729 00:47:16,628 --> 00:47:17,028 Exactly. 730 00:47:17,188 --> 00:47:18,088 Yeah, I think you're right. 731 00:47:18,288 --> 00:47:19,988 I totally agree with your two sats. 732 00:47:20,608 --> 00:47:23,268 Bitcoin's adoption rate is only going to go up. 733 00:47:24,128 --> 00:47:26,588 And the more we keep teaching people about it, 734 00:47:26,648 --> 00:47:27,728 you know, the more, like I said, 735 00:47:28,168 --> 00:47:30,888 me and my friend are really trying to start a Bitcoin meetup 736 00:47:30,888 --> 00:47:33,968 once we come off our shift from our job and that. 737 00:47:34,748 --> 00:47:36,408 We're hoping to start it in April. 738 00:47:36,988 --> 00:47:39,348 If not, May is definitely the time I want to start it. 739 00:47:39,388 --> 00:47:41,808 And I just want to start a meetup about Bitcoin mining 740 00:47:41,808 --> 00:47:43,468 and teach people about mining. 741 00:47:43,748 --> 00:47:44,548 And hopefully that'll, 742 00:47:44,848 --> 00:47:46,848 and we have another meetup we want to try. 743 00:47:46,848 --> 00:47:50,608 We think we want to try earning mine up because a lot of people don't know you can earn Bitcoin. 744 00:47:51,288 --> 00:47:54,408 And we want to show people that you can earn Bitcoin all kinds of different ways. 745 00:47:54,808 --> 00:47:58,908 There are so many ways to earn it. And that's another way. And you don't have to put no money into it. 746 00:47:59,128 --> 00:48:02,488 You could just earn it. You know, and I think that's another way to get people involved. 747 00:48:02,828 --> 00:48:12,608 And then there's games for kids in that, too, which, you know, I would like to try to reach kids more with these games to show them that instead of playing this game that you're playing, that you're not earning anything. 748 00:48:12,608 --> 00:48:17,408 you're just playing, you could actually earn some income by playing this game and, you know, 749 00:48:17,428 --> 00:48:21,808 then do whatever you want with your income, you know? So, but we're trying to work on two meetups 750 00:48:21,808 --> 00:48:27,508 and hopefully we can get those going soon. I think, so I saw a game that does let you actually 751 00:48:27,508 --> 00:48:35,068 earn sats. Simply has one. Yeah. I don't understand how they can do that. Yeah. Simply 752 00:48:35,068 --> 00:48:42,348 Bitcoin, I think if I recall correctly, they have a game where they, like you can earn sats by like 753 00:48:42,348 --> 00:48:44,648 getting to the next level or what have you. 754 00:48:45,928 --> 00:48:48,748 So that could be, that would be a great resource if you. 755 00:48:49,688 --> 00:48:51,368 There's a company called Thunder Games 756 00:48:51,368 --> 00:48:53,148 that I try to get people involved with. 757 00:48:53,568 --> 00:48:56,128 They got a cool couple of little games on there for kids 758 00:48:56,128 --> 00:48:58,268 and for adults, they got Solitary. 759 00:48:58,848 --> 00:49:00,968 I know a lot of older people like to play Solitary. 760 00:49:01,408 --> 00:49:02,748 So when I talked to them about Bitcoin, 761 00:49:02,888 --> 00:49:04,328 I'm like, look, well, you can earn some Bitcoin 762 00:49:04,328 --> 00:49:07,448 playing Solitary instead of just playing Solitary for free. 763 00:49:07,908 --> 00:49:10,648 And I've gotten quite a few older people 764 00:49:10,648 --> 00:49:12,828 into playing the game and earning some Bitcoin. 765 00:49:13,448 --> 00:49:14,388 And it's worked out. 766 00:49:14,448 --> 00:49:16,688 And I got a couple of kids involved with playing. 767 00:49:16,888 --> 00:49:18,628 They got a race game, a snake game. 768 00:49:19,108 --> 00:49:20,608 You know, there's other ones. 769 00:49:20,768 --> 00:49:22,668 But unfortunately here in New York, 770 00:49:22,668 --> 00:49:26,628 we have a restriction because of the New York Bit license. 771 00:49:27,408 --> 00:49:29,528 It doesn't allow a lot of these gaming companies 772 00:49:29,528 --> 00:49:30,568 to come here and operate. 773 00:49:30,848 --> 00:49:34,448 So I can't show, you know, the kids these other games 774 00:49:34,448 --> 00:49:35,648 like Fortnite and that, 775 00:49:35,688 --> 00:49:37,528 that you can actually earn some Bitcoin. 776 00:49:38,048 --> 00:49:39,928 But there's quite a few ways to earn Bitcoin, 777 00:49:39,928 --> 00:49:45,008 Even shopping, there's apps that I have where you buy stuff online and you earn Bitcoin. 778 00:49:45,728 --> 00:49:46,168 Lolly. 779 00:49:46,288 --> 00:49:47,348 Lolly's a good one. 780 00:49:47,488 --> 00:49:47,728 Yep. 781 00:49:47,868 --> 00:49:49,028 That's definitely a good one. 782 00:49:49,188 --> 00:49:50,668 So I use Lolly. 783 00:49:51,268 --> 00:49:54,028 I've tried to show a lot of young people that shop online. 784 00:49:54,268 --> 00:49:57,628 These days they use Lolly because you can earn Bitcoin that way. 785 00:49:58,588 --> 00:50:03,708 And I have an app called Esmile where you walk and you earn Bitcoin. 786 00:50:04,268 --> 00:50:06,248 And I think that's a great thing. 787 00:50:06,248 --> 00:50:09,648 Every day that you're moving, your phone is in your pocket and it's not in your hand. 788 00:50:09,648 --> 00:50:11,548 and you're walking or you're running, 789 00:50:11,988 --> 00:50:13,188 you can earn some Bitcoin, you know? 790 00:50:13,248 --> 00:50:15,468 And I try to promote these things to show people 791 00:50:15,468 --> 00:50:17,988 you can earn Bitcoin without having to put any money 792 00:50:17,988 --> 00:50:19,948 into Bitcoin if you want to get some Bitcoin. 793 00:50:21,028 --> 00:50:21,708 That's wild. 794 00:50:21,868 --> 00:50:23,328 I will be downloading that app soon. 795 00:50:24,128 --> 00:50:26,788 Alfredo, where can our Satillionaires go 796 00:50:26,788 --> 00:50:28,708 if they want to spend more time with you 797 00:50:28,708 --> 00:50:29,728 after this episode? 798 00:50:30,808 --> 00:50:32,348 You can find me on Primal. 799 00:50:32,808 --> 00:50:34,968 You can find me under the name Biddy Cents. 800 00:50:35,788 --> 00:50:37,648 That's the name I came up with. 801 00:50:37,648 --> 00:50:39,268 Being in New York, 50 cents, 802 00:50:39,268 --> 00:50:41,568 you know, a bit of sense, you know, think of that. 803 00:50:41,668 --> 00:50:42,568 That's how I came up with the name. 804 00:50:43,028 --> 00:50:44,668 Or you can find me on Club Orange. 805 00:50:44,948 --> 00:50:46,488 It used to be called the Orange Pill app. 806 00:50:46,868 --> 00:50:49,188 I'm on there in the same, under the same name, Bitty Sense. 807 00:50:49,508 --> 00:50:52,548 And on X, I'm on X on BittyScent21. 808 00:50:54,128 --> 00:50:55,408 Wow, I love that. 809 00:50:55,608 --> 00:50:56,208 I like that. 810 00:50:56,348 --> 00:50:57,248 Yeah, very exciting. 811 00:50:58,188 --> 00:51:02,308 All right, Cotillionaires, if you have enjoyed today's show, 812 00:51:02,428 --> 00:51:07,928 click the subscribe button at your chance to win this collectible silver coin. 813 00:51:07,928 --> 00:51:14,288 it has satoshi on one side and then a qr code uh with 50 000 sats on the other and it is from 814 00:51:14,288 --> 00:51:21,568 our friends at coin or crypto link coins when we get to 3 000 subscribers if you would like to find 815 00:51:21,568 --> 00:51:27,568 out more ways to support the show either grab your slot in the studio or sponsor you can do so in our 816 00:51:27,568 --> 00:51:32,788 show notes below and sat chats is for educational purposes only and should not be construed as 817 00:51:32,788 --> 00:51:35,608 financial advice and our guest views are 818 00:51:35,608 --> 00:51:41,428 yeah all right 819 00:51:41,428 --> 00:51:47,808 keep stacking them slabs 820 00:51:47,808 --> 00:51:49,768 slabs of sex 821 00:52:02,788 --> 00:52:32,768 Thank you.