And she can keep them.
that you need Karianna keeper
carrying the keeper for December
need for a podcast.
I can see you in action right
Fantastic. Oh really? Yeah. This
made.
You're actually sitting there
glowing. You're looking at me
gosh, a star sitting right
We have no idea what we're going
be a fun idea to do something.
Yes, Adam course me into doing
wine. Thank you.
Alright, so the idea started and
we were doing winery Wednesdays
we will go to one of the 116
and we were going to you know,
we've had some wine and then do
well, we're gonna we're gonna
ambience? ambience? Yes.
Yeah. The wine of course. Yeah,
overall service and hospitality.
yes. And we we've done four and
Yeah, so that didn't happen. Not
wineries here are pretty cool,
Yeah, yeah. And there's a
they're not just in there all
just in Fredericksburg.
So we should we should probably.
going to achieve with this. But
chat and people will chime in
But But I think we should talk a
life about leaving Austin. I
can just set it right there. I
we are. Yeah, everyone kind of
which is not not small. But it's
No, it's Star hollow. If people
Gilmore Girls, exactly. Star
market plot.
We do. If you know where Laura
can find us I guess.
Yeah, exactly, exactly. But it
out of Austin. And I think that
perfectly for it to happen.
But we've been here for five
I mean? It's it's very different
southeast Austin, although was
house on an acre, which was
Yeah. And a very diverse
we left Austin was because of
there. And I think that you and
witnessed what was happening,
situation. But it wasn't until
she was shocked. And that kind
we were like, Yeah, you know,
camp on our property, like cats,
and then things just in the
remember that was at night,
I think we had put a fence up at
walking bait was still our
part. It was our property.
hey, you know, what are you
here. Yeah, but this is private
know, you're mean, like voice?
No, I distinctly told them that
our property. Remember that?
Girl? Hey, Leanna this right?
Yeah.
I'll take any shit. Um, but
Lisa came and visited. We were
we were just not not happy with
one day woke up and said, Hey,
found we I found a house. It was
it was the house that we ended
And it's been it's been
a little bit about about Austin
it sounds like it was just the
way, how about the Dell
million to Mobile Loaves and
village we've been supporting
now made
fantastic. Yeah, no, yes. I love
homeless issue. It was
South Austin that was supposed
they really let it go to shit. I
lockdown, just like screw it.
worth it.
It looked like a third world
it was the noise the constant
the traffic. Yeah,
losing control of all kinds of
Well, and you had the city that,
built to accommodate the growth.
Are we just old boomers? And
we just got some wine.
Cheers. We just do as old
it's 10 o'clock. Well, you are.
hearing. I'm done. Oh, here.
yeah, I could hear everything
the, the Mexicans party till
But I was, I was okay. Well,
but I had to go to work that
You guys have your night. That's
was a multitude of issues we
that's why we we started looking
we look
for your your vegetable garden.
or for the Academy. happening.
I'm still I'm still planning on
yet. So so yeah. So everything
just opened up. And we just
love the people there kind I
lot of traffic. I I just enjoy
we don't have anybody close to
Your whole your whole life
life changed. But you left rmhc
you know, a while in the working
that's, that's more than just a
change.
Yeah, but I think I've adapted
well. So yeah, it's comfortable.
it. The thing that I that is a
Fredericksburg is there's no big
target.
There's no point. That's the
that sometimes you'd like to
San
Antonio.
But I can live with that. I can
Fredericksburg is growing. A lot
more restaurants are
true. Is it? Like where are
outskirts of town? There are
Yes. It's expanding in the
subdivisions are being built.
yeah, it's been I think it's
this is our first Christmas in
people what you're doing now?
now. I work for a high end
selling I love selling period.
Actually,
this is this is so so good.
want a great salesperson, find
nonprofit. And it's so true, but
it. You are like now you're
people come back in like three
I had my highest sale last week,
sure. Y'all, y'all god. I'm a
communicator. So I, you know, I
them. And I share my stories,
with them. And it turns out, it
like the achievement of it. It's
Commission, because the
achievement of actually closing
dig. I really like it. Yeah.
like houses or cars or
Yeah. Yeah. There's a thought. I
could do cars is programmatic?
slimy. You know, you're, you're
you know, like, hey, you know,
your car every time you bring it
that, and all Yeah, I think I
I just threw that out there. But
at how much I enjoy the sales
enjoy achieving it, and
never thought that I would, and
you have a good product, right?
product too. Yeah. Well, prior
working at J Crew in the mall, a
loved it there. Loved it and
little millennial girls, Zoomer
drinking their tears from your
And if they tried to steal sale
white on rice. I was like, not
away with it. For sure. No, and
was able to develop my sales
helping style people. And yeah,
loved it. Even even though you
cool, whether they're,
persuasion or any other issues
just general life and how people
Austin versus out here.
There seems to be many more like
that the, there's a lot going
asleep in Austin. Um, so being
has been easier for me. But in
see many of our friends and the
we're generally like minded, so
think differently, I didn't
much time with them in the last
that we're
in. We've actually had, you
from years ago popping up and
and chat and yeah, that seems to
part for people is that they
they're afraid to or they don't
safe enough. They have a safe
just even if it's even if it's
health regulations, you know,
I would have to say here in
everybody is disappointed in the
Yeah, they're, they're feeling
never I didn't have
friends in Austin. We'll find
bunch of friends are from Austin
be interesting to hear their
Oh, man, I'm not going to talk
absolutely not. I know exactly.
What do you think about those
No, no, no, no,
no, but no. I mean, I just the
and kind. And there's nobody,
the street. And I mean, the
put up with that at all
right? And I like that. It just
whatever you want. Whatever you
nothing seems like a big deal.
each other's shit all day long.
because it's so few people.
looking at you. But yeah, I
Yeah. In the store, though,
home decor. And there's a lot of
fabrics. And we do get the
that walks in, because
bachelorette parties. And so
open wine. And I have to tell
sometimes they don't like that.
They're not, they're not
occasional snarky person like
that. Yeah. And they have no
They're drunk. They're drunk.
You can you kind of open
Fredericksburg,
usually we like a sauce to
buying more stuff. Yeah.
I find it amazing how and you're
celebrities. Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I met Cheryl Ladd. She
looking at her and I turned to
said, has anybody ever told you
she said, I am sure. I got my
How does she look? How does she
72 She teeny tiny to she looks
surgeon. Looks great. Very
Hold on a second. And we take a
Bernie. She lives in Bernie,
She have the brunette hair.
No spawn.
Well, this is fine. I'm just
little bit like Kristen Bell's
suppose. Yeah, I was I was not
at some of the old old pictures.
Tiny. Yes. She's super
tiny. So she came in the store.
store with her husband, man, how
been battling breast cancer. So
now. That's all good. Don't.
she does on television.
And she looks a little bit like
just calling one after another
obvious what's going on here.
face. Not Not anything. Yeah.
Ellen DeGeneres. His makeup
actually I actually have her
be her friend. And then this
who is some? Some Ellen dirt?
no. She She said that Elon has
family and I you know, I respect
friend. Why? Because I liked
then I met a woman who is very
counter cosmetics, so she was
came in from dharma. And Greg,
what she's been to recently. She
can't comes in.
See Jenna Elfman. She kind of
So I've met more celebs than I
the personal contact
I slide into their DMS. All
Yes, I know you showed me so
apparently they're I don't know
tell us that we're between four
in Fredericksburg.
No more billionaires in Texas
direct area than in Dallas, I
wouldn't know it. Yeah. Like no
know, he sitting on millions of
they're living in his RV? Yeah,
Yeah. Nice bird dog. Yeah, but
like it out here?
I fucking love it out here. I
that were that we're getting to
You know? For me, I'm in prepper
If anything's gonna happen. It's
having you know, all these
Yeah, that's, that's nice. Yeah.
is good. And, you know, like,
lunch next week. Okay. Yeah. So
these are these are they're
certain stuff happens. That will
Yeah. And yeah, exactly. The
been really like, they're like
grounded in the earth plane.
Yeah, like we so we, we have
There's a couple of houses out
beautiful neighbors of ours of
hanging up Christmas
year. Well,
so that people understand we
subdivision, which is what about
three to five acres? Like
five or six house six houses
us. So it's super small. So we
neighbor of ours Dilbert he
and he hung up Christmas
goodness of his heart. And that
with me. I like that.
Well, he's also an expert. So I
shorba. Yes. Was he they're
wife was Department of Homeland
finance in the Pentagon or
you're right. I think we need to
intelligence people out here.
There's like, Oh, yeah. That's a
There. He goes there and
yeah, yeah. It's crazy. Yeah,
over Hey, Dilbert. And Dogbert.
Do they have homeschools here?
So far removed from that? I have
I don't know.
I would just say you never hear
homeschools.
Do you don't
know. What does that tell you?
I have not heard. We got to
We got to reinvent humanity.
I think that's slowly starting
I don't know. Although, was it?
is I don't think his wife
show, Alex. But they were in the
her to listen and then but he
lawyer. And she knew that all
all you know, she knew what was
she hadn't heard the media
attention to know was I don't
watches it or not. But she did.
had heard any of that media
that what's really going on?
it's kind of a reverse. Reverse
Mm hm. It's happened a few times
really that was a really
have said, Oh, hold on. I was
Turks and was that a clip?
I saw on Twitter. I'm sure there
on Twitter feel poorly prepared?
that thought that he had shot
obviously because of the way
had formed the narrative that
just laying.
Oh, yeah. Tell me what do you
because this is your season. So
be you just following all kinds
I'm a Twitter addict. I really
go,
it's sometimes it's concerning.
not too worried. Worried about
No, I'm definitely that's where
then I'll go down rabbit holes,
you headlines, and then you'll
always think that I'm catching
this? And you're like, Yeah,
it.
No, but you. Did you got how
Oh, definitely no agenda
More than that more, so much
is good on you. Oh, good. Yeah,
Who gave it to you at the bash?
This is the gnomon This is the T
$1,100 mic. Wow. Yeah, of
mic like I have and there's a
This place is like janky studio.
equipment.
And so So of course, this is a
needs to a wind screen in front
handy. So yes, luckily, luckily
we put the
1990s a big cut off the foot
was sucked it up over the over
Anyway, so you know, the just
getting snippets people. There's
was a young girl. She's not a
when she was 14 was talking
groomed. And she was talking
what Jeffrey Epstein would do to
involved in it. And it's pretty
this is a Jane Doe. We
don't know. Yeah, they refer to
upon her when she was 14. And
you think her her parents were
poor, and so they preyed on
stories, these are all known.
the reporting right down to
Was it 700 hours of flight time
the FAA. Yeah, uh huh. Yeah,
like that, oh, it's amazing. But
this, this particular woman was
fund. I don't know that I had
she still tested $5 million
got 2.9 million. Yeah. Well,
I don't, I don't know. Why don't
Because it wasn't in the Twitter
was just reading her testimony.
that. Clinton. Trump was on the
news about Jay Z coming out.
I remember. I remember. Trump
And I think he did fly on the
not to the island. It was, you
borrow a plane. And somehow it
what I heard. I heard I heard I
was his aircraft and he
hate it when that happens. I
private aviation helicopter.
BT fortina blew it all baby
like you know, being in London
like, okay, let's fly back and
work. Oh, whoa. Oh, yeah. And
and with the plebs like Guy
the worst. Just the worst
flying car is coming. It will be
years but I'm keeping this car
Okay.
Anyway, getting back to just
all that I know is that they had
had the pilot on who talked
then they had the girl and she
what about how she was Lord and
Secrets and they bought her all
her to go into a room and
into an orgy and how he wanted
yeah. So
yeah, we just got kicked off of
I'm not going to put this on
I'm just repeating what I the
that's what's really nothing new
the pilot gonna say? Yeah, these
knew that.
Yeah, yeah. So yeah, anyway, So
But what we were talking about
was it. We had this whole slew
think, around the time Bob Iger
was also, I thought, somehow,
talking about that being around
I don't remember. And that was
other CEOs all resigning. Yeah.
These are the Epstein talking
Well, I've noticed it. Yeah. I
well, there's this is
right when this just not just
happening. And but I think that
anything. So I, I don't know
That's what a podcast is all
things. Things. Don't make
just need to thank the Jeff
great job on this. Listen to
instrumental
Good job, Adam.
Where is it? Oh, here it is.
directive to him, which was so
Well, what do you want? And what
I said, I wanted something that
to it. Yeah. And this is what he
first completely nailed. It
was cool. Yeah. So as we, as we
figure out what we're doing,
hear from you, you can email
suggestions.
Tell us what you want to hear
stories, I can tell you how I
to tell you tell. You tell that
you want me to tell the whole
Is that something that should be
No, no, let's see. Um, I
working at Ronald McDonald House
CEO had mentioned in a meeting
donor come by, and that he used
Well, who is it? And she said,
know who you who he is. Because
remember having a little bit of
Ah, there it is.
And then I remember him coming
I remember is I looked over and
really tall, tall they are. And
conversation with you. It wasn't
and we were at a donor event.
I was already divorced. And I
getting ready to bail. We just
before the coming to the donor
to you, just because I wanted to
was my role. I had to mingle
it and I knew you were I knew
Hey, I walked over with these
blueberries made out of
bunch of antioxidants. And I
chocolates are really great.
antioxidants. And Adam turned to
figure, you don't have to worry
whew, the wife was standing
looks could kill, she would have
there. And I was like, alright,
I can't believe you talk to me
I was like, what do ya. So then
later? And you had agreed to MC
Just honestly, did I remember
But you remember meeting me
remember the whole thing. I
the joke. And I what I do not
making it towards towards my
all. Yeah. I do not remember
didn't even think about is being
me ask you this. When you came
first meeting. Did you remember
was at the donor event or not?
I mean, I
don't think so. That's fine.
Yes, you did. You did. So we are
coming to the Ronald McDonald
like, oh, Adam curry is coming.
And I go, is this wife coming?
And she's in Mexico now.
You do the voices.
Oh, interesting. So we went into
were you just walking around?
that you're like, Ooh,
that? No, I
was hanging out with somebody.
hanging out. Yeah. I like that.
the
side. So we had this meeting and
meeting, we were walking out and
on. They were black and white
your shoes. It remind me it's
and I turned to my colleague and
what scar scar was getting a
whole new, thin, thin black
you had black and white shoes.
I was enamored, like, I yeah, I
up for all the douchebaggery
And then he friend requested me
like, Oh, he was we were
gonna be working together.
Oh, okay. Sure. Okay. And then,
ask me out because you were
while I was we were texting back
reconnaissance. I started
which I think was around show
Yeah, I started I heard all
nurse Tracy how she was your
trying to like figure out who
know, what was the about and but
you listen to the no agenda show
think to yourself? This guy's a
about?
This? No, that didn't cross my
Wow, he knows a lot about a lot.
That's enough about enough about
I just thought you knew a lot
things that I never even paid
later, we went out on our first
started having fun. And I
dating you asked me what I
Yeah, you asked me about what
Clintons? And then you asked me
reconnaissance on me?
No, man. I don't think so. I was
lizard brain to activate you to
said you had the player
like, here's, here's how you get
I can do. Hey, don't worry. I've
a great day. That's right.
That's right. I remember that.
that you had the player
I bought that thing too. Yeah,
It wasn't even a book. It's
think he talked to John was
dating somebody because he
through your single Oh, no.
That was horrible. Yeah, he
didn't know cuz you
were like, I like this girl. And
Although he is the one that
can't find this. Oh, wait, I
it. Yes. People need to know
certain things. mental things.
this order. You go. Oh, you can
the Brenda Jackson. Oh, that's
Yeah, but Adam curry needed the
dating scene.
I was so bored of everything.
Let's talk about your Tinder
not. Let's not my profile,
don't show up at five one and
bad.
Anyway. So that's how we met and
fun. And yeah, we just clicked
about, about Hillary Clinton. I
This is my transition skill.
this is the gambit of all
beautiful, you'll love this one.
now, VP retires gets a 25 This
So this is take it for what it's
right before, I guess, a $25
care of boom, you know, she'll
this is all gonna be Democratic
they have to do something
president. Not on the money but
hated vice president who
anything. So they have a problem
shit going on behind the scenes
Technically the following
president resigns for mental
she wants this possible
Do you really think they're
disgrace her like that? He
look at what she's done to get
disgraced herself in many ways.
to any level of whatever she
She's on.
She may not have a choice. I
choice on
the country. She's on the United
different. She may
not have a choice. Okay. So go
you take the $25 million house
don't fly in small aircraft and
just being an evil evil doer.
his new vice Vice President, I
isn't this is not a vote. This
yes. The vice the new vice
approved by the full House and
Hillary Clinton. Joe retires.
No way. Okay. Thank you. Bye. No
I think I'm just telling you
would have to do it very
have the Senate now. And I'm not
resigns. Does she still have the
Hmm. I just heard it. I was
pretty. That's pretty eloquent.
what else? What else can they
just hobble Joe along. He seems
everyone. No one cares anymore.
that he's not doing it a meat
puppet. Um, out of all the
Hillary Clinton. I don't I don't
history of the
president vice presidents have
was he was he was bad dude. And
Nixon was president?
Who was he replaced with then?
Oh, was that? Was that Gerald
the time? I guess the Democratic
all political machines. Yeah.
I don't know Hillary Clinton
Yeah, he was succeeded. But by
not liked at all. At all. That's
from terrible to worse. In my
Well, no, cuz, look, it doesn't
media, in general will just run
a cover from ah, I believe it
You since you're on, you're the
Yeah, what can I tell you? I got
everyone now I really didn't
Because I really just don't
hated Jack Dorsey. Really? Yeah,
Jack sucks Jack's making letting
the President being D platform.
jack is gone? And we're getting
remember.
What is his name by Dr. either?
I don't know what I don't know.
technical. You know,
his name is I'm probably
gridwall Okay, that's
not a cool CEO name and it's
should not be in this position.
were upset because he obviously
and he had posted in November
role is not to be bound by the
thinking about free speech but
have changed and then also on
they had just made an
share any images on Twitter
you How does how's that going?
I have no idea no idea how
a lot of people are saying that
just going to get worse now
that's gonna become a liberal I
become a liberal echo chamber. I
people think that to scribble
connected to Twitter, but
a it's small numbers of who's
liberal voices that are on there
be a liberal echo chamber.
What is it that keeps you there?
My favorites that I keep going
when I can tell you when are you
I am I have to listen to some of
stand her. But I have to see
got to understand her thinking
equally as bad when? RUBIN Okay,
right. Let's go back first of
journalist.
Well, she claims to be a
not.
But she's a journalist. Yeah.
a troublemaker. She's
a journalist to hold on or what?
I have to I have to.
I see I'd made a terrible
the wine bottle into the studio.
probably need to get that. She
and author, the weekly list and
Anand Annenberg pen. She's the
agenda. Oh, she's a former Wall
horrible.
Doesn't say them in her profile.
I mean, Stacey. Abrams, just
Georgia Governor in 2022. And
is like, donate. This is so
But that's okay. See, you're
Yeah, that's okay.
Yeah, but I think this is part
Tina, who loves sales. And that
that wants to go and just fight.
Chicago.
I don't know how many times I
times I have typed out a tweet
yeah, these people drive me
hear both sides. I have to, just
All right, but my favorites are
Oh, hold on. Hold on with your
get the bottle. Okay. So maybe
Bernard flasks for underneath
wine.
No, we just need to get the
whole bottle in there and just
alkie Hmm. I don't drink that
do bottom line.
A whole bottle. Yeah, we've
done it before. Okay, so my
my go twos. I go to them every
Of course you
don't post anything.
No, I know. But I look at your
you're liking any hot chicks
Is that do you really know? Are
said it earlier at lunch I said,
woman she she said I don't look
said, and I hit her profile
wasn't too hot. So I could like
Stupid. And you pull it up. She
I'm like close up. Yeah. Whoo.
Wow. So judgmental. No, I
know. I know. Anyway.
So you're Indiana versus
you but you, you, you wasted all
do you mean? Oh, you're yelling
You know, I'm not condemning it.
it. Yeah. Yeah. Did you like it
too. I do. But I don't get in
although I did tell some guy
rock.
Oh, my God. You went all out on
was I was questioning the CDC.
people blah, blah, blah. Well,
And he goes That's so funny.
And I said, I said, believe me I
something. Hold on. I'll tell
tell you exactly what I said.
The funny part is, is that you
understand how difficult it is
formation. Look it up.
Look it up. Sick, burned,
Anyway, my go to people are Tim
He's kind of snarky on
Twitter, by the way. Now that
you're gonna see what it's like
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, you
I really
don't. It's all my personal
by it, I don't really care. I
Kelly who is hilarious, because
the example of Jessica. Let's
see. Let me see here. So he had
this for a while when we break
forming the world Public of
dictator for some time until I
I'm gonna give Clarence Thomas
so this woman goes, Can I be
be no women in my
to apply for something in
love the Snark because I know
kidding. I like Matt Walsh, too.
attracted the Snark and Glenn
unbelievably intelligent. I just
I can report something and get
it's just too long. I'll see. I
they are and but I know what
I mean, he uncovers things he's
this substack about this
their, what the name is, I can
protect animals from doing
pouches and I and I and in a ID
the experiments on the beagles.
this is what it's all just
There's all kinds of
of cute animals all day long.
my point. I never knew about
for your man.
Tested on on cute beagles. I was
until I met you. I was asleep. I
dating scene. I was just trying
modern day. free meal. Did you
meal? How's it how's your ride
No, I mean, I was asleep. That's
let me finish my Glenn
Greenwald. Good. Don't rap. I'm
because she's fucking smart.
So because sobic Yeah, I used to
pompous.
thermofax. Where's Moe fax in
man lady? Oh, I
know, Karen is what I like to
zubi? Is the black face of white
I like him to to be as cool.
through and I look at
from there, I go down rabbit
with you. So if anyone's
listening on a podcasting 2.0
We're not gonna take any PayPal
want to get some feedback here.
probably never even heard these.
know.
I don't listen to the
So we have a whole bunch to
boost boost. And then we have
to booth. You know, you want to
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Loose. Nice. Boost to Graham and
screen over there. That's what
Nice. Yeah. So definitely, we
That's that's all we have left.
SATs go?
And then we'll see how this show
I'm like, like Adam said
hearing what you want to hear.
yeah, and we'll need things like
so many builds on for us. Yeah,
merch. merch. We need artwork
Do we need that? We do. I'm a
So basically, it's a page with
first show. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
alternative. weeks for more
goes. Just catch up. Yeah. Hey,
god. What do you become a dog
Oh my gosh. Adam is enamored
I've never seen this out of him
really been around you with
you see me with children? Yes.
this dog though. You adore her.
did.
Thank you, Dame. Alicia and
their exact names. Sir Julian,
something else. So
I know him is David but doesn't
names and all kinds of code
previous company. So yeah. Yeah,
really interesting because cuz I
was Uncle Don years ago and this
you have any pets? To you really
a lot of love into the house.
I've had dogs and tons of dogs
and all kinds of stuff. swans.
conscious. Like, we have a great
no reason for us to screw
that's gonna suck. I mean, yes,
conscious about this. And we
puppy. Well, I
wanted a Bernie doodle and you
I don't want anything with a
balls. It's it's deep balling is
said, Hey, we're gonna get it.
doodle dog himself, Frank.
I know. But you agreed to it. So
I am a good man. I know. Like, I
a doodle.
It's like he will. I won't tell
Bernese Mountain Dog poodle is
the industry. Or like meeting
I see one of these, he said,
Stinky as poodle. So sorry,
I'm being very, very racist.
So this was this was the
Bastrop meetup. And we had I had
we had an interview with the
person on Monday. And so we had
to do this. Yeah.
I didn't know you have to have
sure we have to do credit check.
realize that but okay, I'm going
I'm like, this would be fun.
I'm not gonna say it's a doodle
then we go and we meet Phoebe.
Mm hmm. And we're in Adams like
dog was presented to us she
Well, it's really, really weird
an interview. For a doodle do a
this this beautiful, very
love and a need of a home dog.
rescuers. No, they wouldn't name
couldn't keep her. Yeah. And it
said, if it doesn't work out,
Come on? I mean, that was that's
Yeah, but I think we knew the
kept saying I'm waiting for the
for the other. This dog is
She has we have not had one
at all. Not one no and good
because she likes to bark at
John said we should have named
she's Yeah, we got lucky and
old but I think she's older. I
four because she's does not
all. She plays a little bit and
day.
But no that's not possible
like she she has to go out I'm
walk with I'm gonna go out
can sleep 20 hours a day she's
walked seems like she is walked
definitely been a great addition
been easy. It's been great.
All right here in the hill
let's wrap it up. We're almost
pretty good at yapping away. So
everything you want to say Tina
send it to me. Just gonna go
get lost
me. It was pretty talking with
Hey, I'd like to shoes. Thanks.
be good because I think you live
do. Karianna keeper