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hello ladies

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welcome back to

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an exciting episode

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of stacker news

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live my name is

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Tom I'm going to

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be with Kiyon

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Kiyon how's it

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It's going pretty good.

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You're dressed like Morpheus.

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That's always a good day when you're dressed.

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Have you been up to, Guillaume?

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Has it?

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Yeah, we've been up to.

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For Morpheus.

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I haven't really been up to a whole lot.

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Yeah, really not much of anything.

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Mostly fixing bugs.

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I would say.

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Yeah, I upgraded LND over the weekend for Sacker News.

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and then it had this kind of critical API

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that we depend on for doing stuff,

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had a bug in it.

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So I spent, I had to create a workaround

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and we'll discover the bug, find the bug,

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we'll help LND devs find the bug.

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I think Ziggy1984 did great responsiveness to that bug.

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And then that has a bunch of its own issues.

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most of my week is dealing with that kind of stuff while doing normal

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do you Red Bull?

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look at your face.

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You're like,

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where'd that come from?

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That'd be pretty cool.

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I think we can get them.

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Let's see.

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I think I saw an AI generated thread from,

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about the Red Bull guy.

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He seems to have an interesting story.

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I think he rose through Austin when they do the F1 stuff.

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It could happen.

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He rose through.

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He comes through Austin.

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I thought you said he rose.

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I thought he was on.

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When you roll up, Keon, remember the 90s when they say roll up?

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No, no.

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I wasn't really cool.

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I wasn't.

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I didn't know.

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No one said that to me that they're going to roll on me,

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but maybe,

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maybe someday soon.

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Someone will say that to me.

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We got a pretty good show today.

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I don't think we can tell at a time.

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There's a lot of really,

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there's a lot of stories today.

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Let me publish this,

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but there's a lot of stories today,

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but it's just so much going on,

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And we didn't even cover everything.

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Like there's just so much news to sort through this week.

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so there's that but yeah it is it was hard picking us like our own top stories this week for sure yeah

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so much interesting stuff going on if you've never seen this crazy show before

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check it out it's on uh youtube and um yeah we're live now we go live every friday at 4 p.m

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and um yeah it's been a pretty good week last week's uh most uh viewed video was the proxima

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centauri one apparently people like elon musk can go into a different solar system

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or i guess it would be going to a different galaxy no is it a galaxy no it wasn't a galaxy

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right it's just the next nearest sun so it's the same galaxy just a different sun but uh yeah

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okay check it out yeah we should do more clips about elon musk apparently it's probably probably

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gets pretty good with all that let's jump into the top three of the week the first one is the

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ownership obsession what uber and airbnb ready sell keon what's this yeah um this is a great piece

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uh it basically argues that we own so many things that we don't use uh almost like as insurance

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for our future selves to have access to them is basically what it says.

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One of the examples that I like the most is a drill.

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How often do you use a drill that you have permanent storage for year-round?

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It's maybe, at most, maybe an hour a year.

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It takes up space.

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It's not being used.

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and basically argues that for things like Uber and Airbnb,

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they've made renting things so easy

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that we feel like we no longer have to, say, own a vacation home

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or, I guess, own a car in another location that we can drive around in.

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And so it argues what the sharing economy does is reduces the need for us to own things by lowering the transaction costs of gaining access to the thing when we need it.

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Like we show up in Florida.

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We have a house there that we've rented from someone else who just owned it.

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I actually like this post quite a bit, but he argues that you might be able to, the author,

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argues that you might be able to extrapolate to other types of goods like the drill.

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they make the transaction cost of borrowing a drill from someone else very low like uber and

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airbnb have made uh borrowing a car from someone or a house from someone very low and that that

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would that would perhaps unlock other things and i um i actually had an idea like this in college um

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one of my startup ideas that i never pursued was online basically online thrift stores um

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which effectively do this list no but craigslist is like that's a joke is peer-to-peer which is

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which is great um but kind of what you want is a place like etsy no not peer-to-peer it wouldn't

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be a marketplace you would it would be one company who's kind of providing like basically

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you would donate a bunch of stuff to them and then they would allow people to rent it out locally um

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oh okay and then they could return it whenever they wanted and donate it back but

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There's like a community app that does that.

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That's peer-to-peer too.

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There's no company that's doing like an Amazon for thrift stores,

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like an Amazon for renting everything rather than owning everything.

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So the Klaus Schwab app is what you're thinking.

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If you're a cynic in your world, that's how this manifests.

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I thought it was, the framing I think is very accurate and can help you think about the sharing economy well.

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We had the top comment from SimpleStacker.

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He said, oh, I've actually published on this subject.

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The way I've characterized it is that Uber and Airbnb helps small suppliers sell spare and underutilized capacity, which is efficiency improving overall.

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And Discipline said, love Munger, love this topic.

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I do tend to buy things.

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I need to, but I don't really buy anything in advance of needing it.

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That's sort of a middle ground between the renters and the preppers.

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For me, what I'm paying for is avoiding the irritation of rental transactions.

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I definitely think if you own a business, you should be purchasing things.

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but if you can donate it, that's always a good thing.

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Or give it to somebody else, right, that could help them.

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You got anything else on this one?

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But those are the, I believe those are the transaction costs,

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like enumerated transaction costs of attempting to acquire something like a

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ladder or a drill temporarily.

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like it's not it's a there's a reason why we own those things is because it's because of those

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costs it's cheaper to just buy it and then store it somewhere than it is to borrow it or just be in

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a community and um you know help your neighbor out the next one is the dangers of clothing

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close, wait, oh man, I got the wrong one in here, did I?

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The dangers of closed-mindedness and open-mindedness.

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Keon, what's this?

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Yeah, it's a post from Kepford

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arguing both in favor of closed-mindedness

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so he kind of takes both sides on this i think um taking his own advice and uh on the topic for the

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post um but yeah uh what is he what are some of the interesting things he says in here um yeah i

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guess the the problem with being open-minded is you maybe take tradition for granted and you don't

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appreciate it as one of the things he says here and then you end up with kind of never being

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opinionated enough to go like very deep on an opinion or develop develop uh a kind of i guess

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a mature a more mature point of view on a particular thing and that's like kind of the

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risk of being open-minded as you're kind of pooled every which way by current events or whatever i

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think is what he's arguing about being open-minded um and then uh close-mindedness is you you know

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you maybe aren't, you aren't improving is more or less the main danger of closed-mindedness.

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that if you are taking following tradition as a virtue, you might be ignoring those things.

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and doing yourself a disservice.

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when I was reading the other post,

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the one that we were showing before.

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I didn't really grasp what he was getting at, though.

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That was the thing where I couldn't figure out, like,

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was he for or against?

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I didn't really understand that part.

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No, I think he's demonstrating.

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Oh, he's just giving two distinct opposites and favors.

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Or how would you say, I guess the good and bad of being closed-minded and good and bad versus being open-minded, that kind of thing, that's all?

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Yeah, it's just kind of why you might not want to be purely open-minded and why you might not want to be purely closed-minded.

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Both sides have trade-offs and advantages, and he kind of walks through them.

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Yeah, what do you think, Keon?

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um i think i tend to be more on the open-minded side of things uh and i definitely i i do think

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there is a risk to that where i don't i won't develop opinions that are i think strong enough

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to where i might i don't know be be more effective in some way um but

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yeah that's how that's where i that's at least where i fall i definitely wouldn't consider

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myself close-minded um i don't think you can be if you're in bitcoin to be honest i think we have

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quite i think actually one of the features someone should do a personality uh like survey of bitcoiners

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because i i would guess that it's actually a fairly conservative bunch um which suggests that

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they are actually more probably more like temperamentally close-minded than open-minded

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um but i mean it's not that they're purely close-minded it's just that the bot there's

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like a bot i i would guess a statistically significant bias would show up towards i think

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that's just kind of uh what you said right there is more just like a uh i think people say in bitcoin

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i believe personally okay you see that a lot um well i'm i certainly just said it so yeah i know

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that's why i say you see it i like you hear it a lot um yeah where's the the top comment was from

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darth coin he said i appreciate your kindness but you're too kind sometimes what was that in response

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to i guess his response to the post yeah it was a interesting direct response to the post

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Capsford Mad.

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Then we had Space Aller says,

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it pays to keep an open mind, but not so open

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when your brains fall out.

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It was a funny guy.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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For me, it's kind of like, I look at it

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three, four different ways.

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It's kind of tough, right? Obviously,

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you want to always be open to things.

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a lot. What's the thing that you always say?

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four letters or something.

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remember we were talking about it like we talked about it multiple times oh when you're talking

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your community yeah i like the acronym leap yeah yeah what does that stand for listen empathize

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agree partner those are kind of what you want to do if you are hearing somebody out right you want

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to be charitable with uh hearing people's uh topics right or whatever it is yeah i think it's uh

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it's a position of you, you know, not, you're,

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you're not being sort of like defensive or judgmental. Like that's,

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if that's what you want to give off, that's what,

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that's how you would communicate with someone.

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Yeah. And so I kind of see that. Right. And then I also see the, um,

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um, more like the biblical side of things. Like you want to, you want to,

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you want to reason, what is it? You want to, you want to, um,

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you want to reason with with with intellect basically like you want to get to like a base

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objective reality or objective truth of of what it is that you're actually trying to get to um so

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just in any sort of topic but there's always kind of like a wait and see i don't they don't call it

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but it's more like a wait until there's more information available type of thing so i see i

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see it that way too and then the third way i definitely see is just kind of how you were

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raised right like you're you tend to take on some of the same biases that your family

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or generationally that you have growing up so it's kind of one of those things too depending

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on how close you are to your family or i would guess it's actually more generic more genetic

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than it is um environmental like i would guess it's it has your open mind business first to

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close minus is probably has less to do with your uh your upbringing and how you were raised than

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just like the design of you but yeah that's kind of how i see it those three ways but in reality

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like how do you always perform it's it's tough dude right for me i like when you catch me on a

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bad day i'm gonna be close in mind i catch me on a good day i'll be up in my head just kind of

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depends you strive for like what you're talking about but it's it's tough it's definitely tough

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um there was one good comment i saw on this earlier

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and I guess it was

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I guess it was

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yeah this one right here

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I think it was simple stacks

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I think this is an important topic

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many people today

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basically think closed mind

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bad open mind good

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it's good to point them

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to the risk of open mindedness

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and the virtues of closed mindedness

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as well

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yeah

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I think it's good

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good post

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covered on a roll

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where's the other one let me go back one more

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and the number one story this week is hindsight starry eyed this is uh from jason b 29 comments

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19 000 cents keon what's this yeah jason b does a recap on his trip to south africa um we i think

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we over the over the past few months we've covered a few posts by jason b that he wrote

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from south africa where he went there to help out bitcoin akasi um that's beautiful look at that

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suns or maybe that's what that looks like morning time maybe but all right yeah it could be it could

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be a sunset or a sunrise but uh that was a restaurant that he liked i guess he there was a

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server there who um was having trouble with uh the banking system and they had relatives out in

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florida who were like sort of unable to send them money in south africa and by jason communicating

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with the server they ended up figuring out how to use bitcoin to do remittances to south africa

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from Florida, which is pretty awesome.

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The whole point of Jason...

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Look at that. That's cool.

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Yeah. The whole point of Jason B. going to South Africa

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was that he wanted to expose his family, his children,

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to a different environment and just see how they would get along.

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And he calls that a success.

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But he says his other mission,

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which is where he was hoping to go to South Africa,

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and orange pill and like help people who are like this huge solar boom in South Africa

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offset their costs with mining.

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He said he didn't get much of a chance to do that because he didn't end up being able

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to source enough miners.

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I think he said he only really got one miner and it was an S9 that brains donated to him.

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And he said it didn't arrive until like right before he left, which was pretty sad.

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it's kind of a bummer

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I'm hoping

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if he goes back

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and he's looking for miners in the future

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he

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posts

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lets us know

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because I know

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the Mining Foundation

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I think it's called

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I thought it was called 402

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it might be something else

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there's a mining group

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run by

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Echno Alchemist

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they just got a huge donation

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of mining chips from Block.

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And I'm sure they'd be happy to donate some of them

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to a cause like this.

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Anyway, he recaps his entire journey in South Africa

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and those pictures at the end there

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from when he came back and did a gig I guess right when he came back he got a gig at a Christmas tree lighting ceremony Look at that piano dude

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Yeah.

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That's a nice setup.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, that's crazy.

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Yeah, look at those Christmas lights.

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Nice.

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We have a top comment from...

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Simple Stacker.

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he said

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sounds really awesome what is your thinking for why

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South Africa has embraced Bitcoin so much compared

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to say the US

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because I'm not sure if this is

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the main issue or not but even at

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846 sets a day and a time

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to profitability of a year and a half

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I think the raw value of the return is probably

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not enough to excite

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most people into taking action

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anything about that Keon?

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Oh did you ask me a question?

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What did you think about what SimpleStacker said?

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I don't know. What did he say?

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It looks like he said, if I'm not sure, it sounds like 846 sats.

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He did all the calculation basically saying it's not enough to excite most people.

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Do you think that's necessarily true or not?

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Maybe. Jason B. does some of the math.

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I guess there's an installation cost that he has that is local to the region where they were doing it.

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and he did some math on it or like a i think it was there's a certain thresholds where they they

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do become that pays for like the installation of the solar mine the solar panels eventually

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um and that would be the whole maybe the whole point or no i think it was just mostly to pay

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off the miners themselves but then after that you're in profit because you're using excess

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electricity yeah i also think people forget about the the non-kyc aspect of mining that's always

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especially and then if it's just like energy that's not taking anything from the grid right

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is this one just all insular as far as like where it's at yeah this is just about so solar like a

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lot because they had rolling blackouts and brownouts in south africa over the last i don't know years

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or whatever um and so a lot of people started ended up or ended up having to install solar

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panels for themselves to be able to have electricity um like throughout continuously

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and so it's a nice setup it'd be nice yeah if you could figure out a way to offset the cost

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of insulation then you could um like lower the floor on the the entry for for more people in

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south africa okay i was talking to a bitcoiner this week and they were talking about like geothermal

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in colorado or something and this sounds epic and they're talking about how like you can have

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acres of land really inexpensively all off-grid mining and stuff i was like damn

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yeah you could set up your own geothermal that'd be pretty cool but i think

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most i think the depth of most viable geothermal my minds i don't know what they call them um

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It sounded cool when he was telling me, but I don't know.

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Depending on the region, yeah.

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Sometimes geothermal is...

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I don't know anything about mining like that.

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Close to the surface.

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Oh, that's awesome.

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That's all the top three stories of the week here on Stacker News Live.

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We're going to jump into...

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Oh, where is it at?

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We're going to jump into Wumble's Picks.

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Wumble's Wumble's Wumble's Picks this week.

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Wumble's Picks.

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Has Proton gone too far?

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This is from sticky.

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47,

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38 comments,

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941 sets.

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Key on.

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What's this?

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Yeah.

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So I guess proton released a spreadsheets application.

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Uh,

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seems like,

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it seems like they've been just after the other kind of releasing office

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suite type applications.

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Uh,

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in this case,

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they released a spreadsheet thing.

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Um,

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and so one bow asked,

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well,

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like,

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like Google sheets,

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basically like Google sheets.

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Hmm.

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but for Proton

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interesting

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Siggy

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you know Siggy seems concerned that

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Proton might be getting

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over their skis and like overextending

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themselves and maybe won't be able

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like it'll degrade their other product offerings

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by having this new product

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let's look at that

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so they got ProtonMail

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okay

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do you have a use Sheets yet?

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no I saw the announcement

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my thought is like

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is Sheets really what breaks the camel's back

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because they have Bitcoin wallet.

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They've got like Drive.

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They've got Password.

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They've got a new private AI.

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They have a private AI now?

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Yeah, I mean, it's becoming like a full alternative Google suite.

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But for me, Sheets is like a pretty boring feature.

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Yeah, Lumo.

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It's really cool because it's a, I mean,

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I haven't looked into the back end.

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Maybe it's like, trust me, bro, privacy.

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But they claim it's private and it has a web search tool,

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which is a really powerful thing to have,

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like a private AI as a web search tool.

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That's cool.

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But yeah, I mean, I'm a big fan of Proton.

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I want to keep going, keep going.

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Yeah, it sounds, I didn't know they had an AI thing.

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Oh yeah, they do have a, it's sort of like OpenSecret.

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Oh wow.

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Or Maple AI, is my understanding.

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Okay. But yeah, so Wombo asks, as developers and entrepreneurs, how do you keep from expanding your product line too far?

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That's a great question. I think I had an answer.

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I think you just need to ask yourself what your product does over and over again.

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Um, and if the answer is the, the answer, if the answer is 20 things, uh, not very well,

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then, um, you're probably, you're probably doing something wrong.

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You should, you probably should have one answer, like one answer that's quite strong and good

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would be, so that's, I think the, uh, I would guess what proton is doing is if they, if they

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were to ask themselves that question with how they would answer is say we're building google

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like google's tooling google's like services but private like i think that would that's what they

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would say and the scope of that is pretty large but it's at least like fairly succinct um and you

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can that kind of shows up and everything that they end up offering um but it it it isn't an

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intimidating level of scope uh because google is a huge massive company with you know lots and

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lots of money car do you have a answer to this question what was the question again how do you

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uh how do you keep from expanding your product line too far to the point where it buckles under

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its own weight i think i think proton is doing what it's supposed to be doing like competing with

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the alternative to google like they're the complete opposite of google that's the direction

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they're going in and i think everything that you'll see this is just my opinion i think i

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don't know anything but i would imagine that everything that google has proton will have

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because it's trying to make a direct competitor to it just on the opposite side of that with privacy

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and encryption and all that kind of stuff so i think you're going to see everything even video

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social at some point i would imagine but who knows i mean but i think do you see optimisms

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optimism had a really good response um he said yes you can if you can afford it you have a product

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team for each product product areas for each group and verticals for each security frameworks

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and auditing the like he said i've successfully worked with 30 plus concurrent product teams

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wow i didn't know that about optimism uh he goes it can definitely be done um but he says that uh

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sounds like you're gonna have a lot of delegated delegated leadership austin you kind of work in

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you kind of work with product lines

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or at least I hear you on calls talking about

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products. You don't have to say who you work for but

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how do you think

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how do you think

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how do you think

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it can be managed at that scale

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just by looking at what Optimism said

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it sounds pretty

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pretty intense

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yeah I mean it's I think that he put it well

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like I wouldn't change anything that he

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said or really add to it it's more of like kian's question made me think yeah like what is it that

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they're really like what's the secret sauce right because they're building a bunch of apps but what

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is the commonality between all of these apps that that makes someone choose proton well the

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commonality here is that they they at least claim to have end-to-end encryption right so for me that's

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the secrets and like you get that working in email you get that working you know maybe drive

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or calendar was their second product maybe password and then eventually they're like cool we have the

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template down for how to do the end in encryption for the data now what's the new application

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and then the thing is like okay maybe they don't have the best calendar app maybe they don't have

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the best AI app, but it's like, well, I don't need it to be competitive on the UI or feature

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standpoint with Google necessarily, because they're giving me something that Google or no one else will

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give me. So I guess my kind of thought is like, maybe the quality of the app is going to be a

486
00:29:31,476 --> 00:29:38,336
little bit worse, worse quality than other products. But if they, you know, stay true to

487
00:29:38,336 --> 00:29:43,756
the principle of end encryption and the reason that I and most people are using Proton, I think

488
00:29:43,756 --> 00:29:50,196
it's good and it yeah it makes it to where they can have a shittier google suite and i will choose

489
00:29:50,196 --> 00:29:58,016
it over google every time yeah it does you hear a lot of people give them crap about the what was

490
00:29:58,016 --> 00:30:04,556
that recent thing that they had where they got um who put a who put a gun to their dick or something

491
00:30:04,556 --> 00:30:08,656
wasn't there like a wasn't there like a three-letter agency that did i don't know anyone

492
00:30:08,656 --> 00:30:14,336
want to put a gun to other deck not yet i'd like to meet them someday yeah this one right here that

493
00:30:14,336 --> 00:30:19,356
was this one so it's important to bring this up uh proton mail discloses user data lending to

494
00:30:19,356 --> 00:30:28,496
arrest in spain um so there's that right but that was like a year ago or more than a year ago was

495
00:30:28,496 --> 00:30:34,756
that probably that's probably after or before they were uh ngo i think i remember correctly

496
00:30:34,756 --> 00:30:35,616
They're an NGO?

497
00:30:36,136 --> 00:30:36,836
Now they are, yeah.

498
00:30:37,536 --> 00:30:39,036
You mean they're a nonprofit?

499
00:30:39,316 --> 00:30:39,956
Nonprofit, yeah.

500
00:30:40,076 --> 00:30:40,376
Okay.

501
00:30:40,956 --> 00:30:42,776
Which are kind of different things, right?

502
00:30:43,316 --> 00:30:45,176
No, non-governmental organization.

503
00:30:45,496 --> 00:30:47,256
Same thing in my book.

504
00:30:47,556 --> 00:30:51,116
But let's get back to this real quick.

505
00:30:51,516 --> 00:30:54,776
But do you think this is a thing?

506
00:30:55,636 --> 00:30:56,636
Oh, no, it's definitely a thing.

507
00:30:56,796 --> 00:30:59,496
It's like you leak all kind of metadata to them,

508
00:30:59,636 --> 00:31:01,256
and you have to still be super vigilant.

509
00:31:01,256 --> 00:31:04,356
I would guess that, to a large extent,

510
00:31:04,356 --> 00:31:12,036
a lot of ProtonMail's privacy stuff is more of a LARP than most people using it would like to

511
00:31:12,036 --> 00:31:16,756
believe. I would guess that they are more private than Google and they don't have the incentives

512
00:31:16,756 --> 00:31:21,716
that Google does to really mine all your data. But I think most of your email, unless you are

513
00:31:22,536 --> 00:31:28,396
explicitly encrypting them, are stored in plain text on their server. So it's my understanding.

514
00:31:29,776 --> 00:31:34,316
Yeah. So this was a year, almost a year and a half ago, more than a year and a half ago. So

515
00:31:34,316 --> 00:31:38,336
it's worth bringing up because it is something that stackers should,

516
00:31:38,416 --> 00:31:40,156
should definitely,

517
00:31:40,296 --> 00:31:40,716
you know,

518
00:31:40,716 --> 00:31:41,236
look into.

519
00:31:42,896 --> 00:31:43,376
Yeah.

520
00:31:44,656 --> 00:31:45,136
Yeah.

521
00:31:45,216 --> 00:31:47,596
And encryption will help you from getting docs.

522
00:31:48,156 --> 00:31:48,636
Yeah.

523
00:31:48,736 --> 00:31:49,676
If you leak metadata,

524
00:31:50,216 --> 00:31:50,496
right.

525
00:31:50,536 --> 00:31:53,916
This is why like you can have private DMS with me on Noster,

526
00:31:54,276 --> 00:31:56,476
but everyone will know that we're DMing.

527
00:31:56,936 --> 00:31:59,436
So that's the same thing here.

528
00:31:59,516 --> 00:32:00,476
Maybe all your emails,

529
00:32:00,616 --> 00:32:01,916
maybe all your docs are encrypted.

530
00:32:01,916 --> 00:32:03,236
Like they literally can't see it,

531
00:32:03,236 --> 00:32:04,636
but they have this whole audit trail.

532
00:32:04,896 --> 00:32:06,576
And if it's attached to a phone number,

533
00:32:06,656 --> 00:32:07,936
if it's attached to other metadata,

534
00:32:08,636 --> 00:32:10,436
they get, you know,

535
00:32:10,476 --> 00:32:13,736
basically cease and desist it or whatever it's called in Sweden.

536
00:32:14,016 --> 00:32:15,436
The feds come and knock on their door

537
00:32:15,436 --> 00:32:16,956
and they have to give up what they have.

538
00:32:18,136 --> 00:32:20,556
Now, hopefully most of that data is encrypted, but.

539
00:32:21,236 --> 00:32:22,816
Yeah, I think optimism says it right here

540
00:32:22,816 --> 00:32:24,956
because I think the safe signup process is,

541
00:32:26,996 --> 00:32:28,836
or he says, do not use their VPN service

542
00:32:28,836 --> 00:32:29,956
or real IP at any time.

543
00:32:29,956 --> 00:32:31,336
Also not during signup.

544
00:32:31,336 --> 00:32:35,656
and he said open for a free account do not give them a fallback email

545
00:32:35,656 --> 00:32:40,216
this sounds like it's a process pay through bitcoin use atomic or use a submarine swap

546
00:32:40,216 --> 00:32:44,936
sounds like um so it sounds like um and they talk about in the comments but

547
00:32:44,936 --> 00:32:52,536
definitely worth the posts definitely uh i think he asked another question um do you think proton

548
00:32:52,536 --> 00:32:58,836
sheets will be a successful prod uh project uh i think it i think it will be a successful project

549
00:32:58,836 --> 00:33:05,236
in the sense that if anyone is trying to find an alternative

550
00:33:05,236 --> 00:33:08,456
to Google or the Microsoft Office suite,

551
00:33:08,976 --> 00:33:13,076
but cares more about privacy maybe than product maturity,

552
00:33:13,856 --> 00:33:17,176
I think they'll be more likely to switch to Proton now

553
00:33:17,176 --> 00:33:20,436
because Proton meets more of the needs than they did before.

554
00:33:22,196 --> 00:33:22,716
Yeah.

555
00:33:23,076 --> 00:33:27,116
I just see them eventually just being as big as Google at some point.

556
00:33:27,116 --> 00:33:33,316
and then just having the alternative of it right but there's still aspects of like what austin

557
00:33:33,316 --> 00:33:39,136
talked about you know you don't want to leak your data um you still got to be uh vigilant

558
00:33:39,136 --> 00:33:47,116
um good post womble that was that was womble's picks womble's picks

559
00:33:47,116 --> 00:33:58,116
and uh we're gonna jump into let's go with yours first koop okay uh this one is a bunch of alarming

560
00:33:58,116 --> 00:34:07,976
poop this is from elvis mercury 54 comments 2850 sets keon what's this yeah uh so derek thomas

561
00:34:07,976 --> 00:34:16,636
uh rattles off a bunch of things that i guess are going on in the world that uh seem kind of bad

562
00:34:16,636 --> 00:34:18,696
things like

563
00:34:18,696 --> 00:34:21,236
young people's attention

564
00:34:21,236 --> 00:34:22,976
as levels are declining

565
00:34:22,976 --> 00:34:24,876
and their impulse control declining

566
00:34:24,876 --> 00:34:26,076
and it's linked to

567
00:34:26,076 --> 00:34:28,576
how everything is a video now

568
00:34:28,576 --> 00:34:29,936
and no one's really reading

569
00:34:29,936 --> 00:34:33,236
and things like that

570
00:34:33,236 --> 00:34:34,356
some of the other things are

571
00:34:34,356 --> 00:34:37,276
gambling levels are very high

572
00:34:37,276 --> 00:34:40,156
home ownership is low

573
00:34:40,156 --> 00:34:50,476
um uh oh that like toxicity of news sources primarily it's like trend it's to be doing that

574
00:34:50,476 --> 00:34:56,716
like historical analysis it's just gotten more and more like fear driven uh than ever before

575
00:34:56,716 --> 00:35:04,656
see what is uh then it ties in of course like the big ai boom and you know forecasts about what that

576
00:35:04,656 --> 00:35:08,636
might do to the job market and how it's like distorting energy markets.

577
00:35:09,396 --> 00:35:12,116
Maybe I would guess it is at least temporarily.

578
00:35:14,456 --> 00:35:17,636
And how there's like, while we don't, well,

579
00:35:17,656 --> 00:35:20,836
it's not really showing up in a big way in unemployment numbers.

580
00:35:20,836 --> 00:35:22,616
It's still, you know,

581
00:35:22,616 --> 00:35:26,836
most people expect AI to lead to some kind of employment shortage drugs.

582
00:35:27,936 --> 00:35:29,616
I guess we're, we've stopped consuming out.

583
00:35:29,776 --> 00:35:32,536
Like we've alcohol is on the decline yet.

584
00:35:32,536 --> 00:35:34,536
We're consuming tons of weed.

585
00:35:34,656 --> 00:35:43,076
and you know that has trade-offs uh they're among the optimistic things here he talks about

586
00:35:43,076 --> 00:35:49,656
gpl ones and believes that that is like a you know a nice trend for drugs and it seems to be

587
00:35:49,656 --> 00:35:56,356
helping people both uh lose weight and reduce a bunch of disease risk by i think the current

588
00:35:56,356 --> 00:36:04,576
theory is some kind of anti-inflammatory effects um gosh yeah such a doomer post

589
00:36:04,576 --> 00:36:09,676
It is. Well, that's the that's the weird thing is like it's kind of doomer and it is kind of alarming.

590
00:36:09,676 --> 00:36:14,376
But he ends it by being, you know, I think optimistic.

591
00:36:14,696 --> 00:36:17,256
He basically says. Oh, yeah. Where is he? Yeah. The optimistic part.

592
00:36:17,516 --> 00:36:24,056
Yeah. Says we are like he ends by saying we're ruled by this bias towards the negative.

593
00:36:24,056 --> 00:36:27,096
Like we pay we pay a lot of attention to the negative.

594
00:36:27,356 --> 00:36:29,256
And, you know, here are some things that are good.

595
00:36:29,256 --> 00:36:33,296
is like 50 years ago, I think it's something like half of the United States didn't have

596
00:36:33,296 --> 00:36:37,216
heating and cooling, like electronic

597
00:36:37,216 --> 00:36:41,156
heating and cooling. And then part of the graph

598
00:36:41,156 --> 00:36:45,236
up there is that he showed that quite a few

599
00:36:45,236 --> 00:36:47,556
places in the United States didn't even have indoor plumbing.

600
00:36:48,676 --> 00:36:50,536
So that's obviously a good trend.

601
00:36:52,756 --> 00:36:55,396
And then the quote he ends with

602
00:36:55,396 --> 00:37:05,596
is uh yeah and then like the impact of art maybe to kind of skew us back towards positivity and

603
00:37:05,596 --> 00:37:12,376
maybe open us back up the the quote specifically he shared is from a i think it was a a cancer

604
00:37:12,376 --> 00:37:22,096
surgeon um who was at a who was at a uh uh i think he was watching a play yeah he was watching

605
00:37:22,096 --> 00:37:30,736
a play where uh chaos theory was kind of touched on in the play and it led it led him to develop

606
00:37:31,296 --> 00:37:36,896
chemotherapy as a treatment for cancer which has you know been a huge success at improving

607
00:37:37,616 --> 00:37:46,176
outcomes and anyway but uh this is really sad dude it's really sad oh i don't i don't take it

608
00:37:46,176 --> 00:37:51,896
that way i don't see anything of this stuff like to be on site to be that guy but like all this

609
00:37:51,896 --> 00:37:58,036
stuff i don't see any of this stuff we were at round rock big quitters yesterday and um the vibes

610
00:37:58,036 --> 00:38:03,996
were high man so maybe it's just like people that are outside of bitcoin i think where they're kind

611
00:38:03,996 --> 00:38:11,816
of getting this kind of uh it's kind of what was prophesized years ago by who by what how about

612
00:38:11,816 --> 00:38:16,216
the ogs they're talking about how like you know the pain that was going to be inflicted on people

613
00:38:16,216 --> 00:38:22,076
that didn't uh opt in for bitcoin well we've been talking a lot about how bitcoin has changed so

614
00:38:22,076 --> 00:38:25,996
definitely we're going to talk about it later in this episode but i would say it's it's been

615
00:38:25,996 --> 00:38:32,476
infected by by the same thing it's just a bitcoin version of the same thing so but i'd say i'd say

616
00:38:32,476 --> 00:38:37,836
all of these reading though like people still go to the library i actually just got a library card

617
00:38:37,836 --> 00:38:39,336
last week.

618
00:38:40,096 --> 00:38:40,416
Okay.

619
00:38:40,816 --> 00:38:42,716
And then Triumph of Streaming Video.

620
00:38:43,496 --> 00:38:44,376
I could see that.

621
00:38:45,056 --> 00:38:46,156
Let's go down the list.

622
00:38:46,496 --> 00:38:47,536
Where was the other one? He said TikTok.

623
00:38:48,676 --> 00:38:49,496
Yeah, I could see that too.

624
00:38:50,996 --> 00:38:52,556
Right now there's one big bet on it.

625
00:38:52,656 --> 00:38:54,736
Like the artificial intelligence is providing

626
00:38:54,736 --> 00:38:56,836
a ton of jobs. We were talking to a lot

627
00:38:56,836 --> 00:38:58,676
of people yesterday. AI is just

628
00:38:58,676 --> 00:39:00,396
opening up jobs here in Austin.

629
00:39:01,536 --> 00:39:02,176
Let's see.

630
00:39:03,816 --> 00:39:04,796
Let's see what else we got.

631
00:39:04,796 --> 00:39:05,616
Generative AI.

632
00:39:07,836 --> 00:39:11,736
Gen Z. I think Gen Z got dealt a worse hand than millennials.

633
00:39:12,436 --> 00:39:13,236
That's for sure.

634
00:39:15,616 --> 00:39:18,456
But I think Gen Z will figure it out just like the millennials figured it out.

635
00:39:20,396 --> 00:39:22,636
That's how I'm feeling today, Keon.

636
00:39:23,476 --> 00:39:25,616
I think it's a great post, though.

637
00:39:27,036 --> 00:39:29,776
The amount of time to put 26 most important ideas.

638
00:39:32,076 --> 00:39:32,916
Cool stuff.

639
00:39:33,936 --> 00:39:35,056
What did Gray Ruby say?

640
00:39:35,396 --> 00:39:36,456
He said, this is very depressing.

641
00:39:36,456 --> 00:39:41,316
and i definitely agree with the signification of the economy yeah he said all these apps were

642
00:39:41,316 --> 00:39:44,936
designed to democratize and gamify both finance and sports betting paired with young

643
00:39:44,936 --> 00:39:49,436
minds with that are addicted dopamine it's probably a very dangerous cocktail

644
00:39:49,436 --> 00:40:01,152
yeah um let go to your next post zeus node tips and tricks from darth coin 16 comments 11 000 sets

645
00:40:01,152 --> 00:40:08,172
key on what's ebon building these days yeah zeus and uh version 12 i guess is going to have nw

646
00:40:08,172 --> 00:40:13,732
an nwc server included and with the nwc server you're going to be able to add sub accounts kind

647
00:40:13,732 --> 00:40:21,252
like you can on albi and darth coin wrote a little guide for you and then i think added some other

648
00:40:21,252 --> 00:40:30,572
tips about how you might better manage a an always on uh zeus node which is you know it's something i

649
00:40:30,572 --> 00:40:36,012
hadn't really he mentioned it i think in a saloon comment the other day where he was talking about

650
00:40:36,012 --> 00:40:42,932
how you know if you have a spare tablet you put zeus on it and you turn it on like an android

651
00:40:42,932 --> 00:40:49,732
tablet and you put put it on always on mode you can basically have a lightning node that's always

652
00:40:49,732 --> 00:40:56,372
on and do most of what you want to do with a lightning node but it's running in a in a tablet

653
00:40:56,372 --> 00:41:02,852
app which is a pretty cool thought it made me wonder if there's any plans for zeus to be deployed

654
00:41:02,852 --> 00:41:06,372
on things like Umbral or Star 9.

655
00:41:10,372 --> 00:41:11,492
Cool stuff.

656
00:41:12,892 --> 00:41:13,492
Yeah.

657
00:41:15,312 --> 00:41:16,332
All right.

658
00:41:16,412 --> 00:41:21,252
Let's jump into the AI Bitcoin stuff.

659
00:41:21,772 --> 00:41:25,052
This one, I think, got posted just like 13 hours ago.

660
00:41:25,152 --> 00:41:26,232
It was such a great post.

661
00:41:27,632 --> 00:41:28,852
It's really in-depth.

662
00:41:28,852 --> 00:41:30,232
I'm not going to be able to cover it all.

663
00:41:30,592 --> 00:41:32,552
A lot of it's just above my head.

664
00:41:32,852 --> 00:41:34,752
Maybe Keon can explain it.

665
00:41:35,112 --> 00:41:35,672
I didn't read it.

666
00:41:35,792 --> 00:41:36,232
You didn't read it.

667
00:41:36,292 --> 00:41:37,112
Okay, even better.

668
00:41:37,692 --> 00:41:40,512
But the gist of what I understand here

669
00:41:40,512 --> 00:41:43,232
is this guy named Tim Detmers

670
00:41:43,232 --> 00:41:45,532
is talking about the bottleneck issue

671
00:41:45,532 --> 00:41:47,832
that is going to happen at some point with AI

672
00:41:47,832 --> 00:41:50,152
and all the infrastructure that's being built out there

673
00:41:50,152 --> 00:41:52,752
and how we're never going to get to AGI.

674
00:41:53,352 --> 00:41:57,392
And he's an academic, goes through it all,

675
00:41:58,132 --> 00:42:00,952
talks about the computation, how it's physical.

676
00:42:00,952 --> 00:42:08,552
and it's it's a very uh you can tell he's been a long time talking about like long time uh looking

677
00:42:08,552 --> 00:42:14,452
into why uh agi is not going to happen with the estimated dates that like sam allman some of these

678
00:42:14,452 --> 00:42:19,972
other people are predicting uh he talks about it's just it's very in-depth a lot of it's over my head

679
00:42:19,972 --> 00:42:25,912
but from what i can understand there's a great response to this though inside the comments

680
00:42:25,912 --> 00:42:34,492
from it's real fake uh and he goes he goes in depth like line by line this deserved its own

681
00:42:34,492 --> 00:42:39,112
post to be honest uh if he's watching but like he goes line by line why a lot of this is

682
00:42:39,112 --> 00:42:44,372
it'll lead to a basically from my understanding of reading this from his his reply and correct

683
00:42:44,372 --> 00:42:48,372
me if i'm wrong it's real fake but it sounds like he's saying that a lot of the bottlenecks issues

684
00:42:48,372 --> 00:42:55,332
will get resolved because of new technology that hasn't been complete yet.

685
00:42:55,332 --> 00:43:00,432
And this is the Photonix holographic data storage.

686
00:43:01,892 --> 00:43:06,432
And so he explains how these bottlenecks that this guy's seen,

687
00:43:06,592 --> 00:43:10,592
this Detmers guy's seen, will lead to innovation in other areas.

688
00:43:11,752 --> 00:43:14,232
And then he goes through it all.

689
00:43:14,232 --> 00:43:19,132
He literally goes line by line about why this guy is not looking at it.

690
00:43:19,412 --> 00:43:21,292
That's kind of being closed-minded versus open-minded, right?

691
00:43:21,392 --> 00:43:23,232
Like it's literally what we were talking about earlier with Kepford.

692
00:43:23,712 --> 00:43:26,112
Like this is more an open-minded opinion about AGI.

693
00:43:26,592 --> 00:43:30,332
And then the academic was talking about more of a closed-minded opinion about AGI.

694
00:43:32,532 --> 00:43:37,952
At the end, I think he said probably the most profound thing I haven't really thought about.

695
00:43:38,512 --> 00:43:40,152
He quotes, what's his name?

696
00:43:40,752 --> 00:43:41,792
Ray Kurzweil.

697
00:43:41,792 --> 00:43:51,392
And Ray Kurzweil says that he defines artificial general intelligence as a technology capable of matching what an expert in every field can do all at the same time.

698
00:43:51,472 --> 00:43:53,612
He predicts that AGI will be achieved by 2029.

699
00:43:53,712 --> 00:43:59,312
This is Ray Kurzweil, emphasizing its potential to enhance human intelligence rather than compete with it.

700
00:44:00,812 --> 00:44:04,152
So the cool thing that he ends with is this part right here.

701
00:44:04,192 --> 00:44:07,512
He talks about how AGI will never happen.

702
00:44:07,512 --> 00:44:12,352
he goes if he instead said agi will never happen because humans are going to get better as we

703
00:44:12,352 --> 00:44:17,652
integrate with machines and therefore the goalposts will keep you moved keon he said that if he would

704
00:44:17,652 --> 00:44:21,512
have said that in his kind of like argument of why agi won't happen he said he would have been

705
00:44:21,512 --> 00:44:24,752
on board with that because he does think there's going to be some kind of symbiotic thing that

706
00:44:24,752 --> 00:44:31,292
that happens but um but yeah it's a great post just wanted to share it was in the ai territory

707
00:44:31,292 --> 00:44:31,752
this morning.

708
00:44:32,732 --> 00:44:32,932
Yeah.

709
00:44:34,372 --> 00:44:34,772
Cool.

710
00:44:36,092 --> 00:44:41,532
Yeah, I would guess that the real, I don't know, I'd like, if you look at technology bottlenecks,

711
00:44:41,912 --> 00:44:47,332
it seems like the most, like the one I think about the most is probably like the physics

712
00:44:47,332 --> 00:44:52,552
problem, where we kind of haven't, it feels like we haven't advanced physics in a significant

713
00:44:52,552 --> 00:44:53,812
way in a very long time.

714
00:44:53,812 --> 00:45:02,652
And I wonder how much of that is actually a technology problem and not some other kind of problem.

715
00:45:02,652 --> 00:45:18,752
And, you know, if the real bottleneck in AGI occurs when militarized applications emerge, then we know that maybe it's not like a human ingenuity bottleneck.

716
00:45:18,772 --> 00:45:25,492
And it's more so a like counter forces trying to keep a technology safe.

717
00:45:26,412 --> 00:45:30,612
That would be my, I just don't, I don't see the market slowing down for.

718
00:45:30,612 --> 00:45:31,672
I don't see it either.

719
00:45:31,672 --> 00:45:36,512
Like when I read the other, because I went through this, but it's hard to grasp, man.

720
00:45:36,572 --> 00:45:37,132
It really is.

721
00:45:37,172 --> 00:45:38,592
It's just above my head.

722
00:45:39,172 --> 00:45:40,132
All this stuff.

723
00:45:40,392 --> 00:45:44,012
I would have to go and like research certain words and all that kind of stuff.

724
00:45:44,172 --> 00:45:47,012
But when I read the, that's why Stacker News is so great.

725
00:45:47,332 --> 00:45:56,212
When I read this post by Israel Fake, he went through it and actually parsed it out and explained it, you know, for Bitcoiners to understand.

726
00:45:56,472 --> 00:45:57,532
At least from my understanding.

727
00:45:57,572 --> 00:45:58,012
You know what I mean?

728
00:45:58,012 --> 00:46:09,952
And it gives it kind of like a Bitcoin lens to it, which a lot of us already, like, I guess for us, it's like you're doing the non-casual stuff, but you see a lot of things in Bitcoin where these bottlenecks do lead to, you know, innovations.

729
00:46:10,472 --> 00:46:16,032
Or, you know, it just happens just because incentives broke, right?

730
00:46:16,032 --> 00:46:21,152
And I think that's where it's just good to have a Bitcoin lens to this stuff.

731
00:46:22,412 --> 00:46:26,532
Anyways, but really great posts, really great posts to wake up to.

732
00:46:26,532 --> 00:46:31,272
good comments all that kind of stuff so i wanted to share that and the other one

733
00:46:31,272 --> 00:46:36,112
uh was this i don't know if you saw this but the over 10 000 docker hub images found linking

734
00:46:36,112 --> 00:46:43,432
credentials with off keys um i remember a lot of people use docker like when i had a fiat job like

735
00:46:43,432 --> 00:46:50,572
i know they still do oh they still do yeah it's it's the most popular way to define an environment

736
00:46:50,572 --> 00:46:52,432
that you want to reproduce.

737
00:46:53,952 --> 00:46:58,732
So, yeah, it looks like more than 10,000 Docker Hub container images

738
00:46:58,732 --> 00:47:01,292
exposed data that should be protected, including live credentials

739
00:47:01,292 --> 00:47:04,612
to production systems, databases, and LLM model keys.

740
00:47:06,712 --> 00:47:08,372
Talks about...

741
00:47:08,372 --> 00:47:13,252
It's really easy to accidentally check in, like, into your source,

742
00:47:13,832 --> 00:47:17,592
your version control, accidentally check in credentials.

743
00:47:18,072 --> 00:47:19,952
You have to be, like, pretty vigilant.

744
00:47:19,952 --> 00:47:25,712
You want to have a system in place, but that requires a little bit of planning.

745
00:47:26,372 --> 00:47:27,432
You use Docker or no?

746
00:47:28,092 --> 00:47:32,212
We use it for our developer environment, but we don't host anything on Docker Hub.

747
00:47:32,372 --> 00:47:33,452
It's just all in our repo.

748
00:47:34,832 --> 00:47:39,632
But this is equivalent to you have your environment files open sourced.

749
00:47:40,072 --> 00:47:43,772
It's kind of what things on Docker Hub is like.

750
00:47:43,772 --> 00:47:46,272
and they just

751
00:47:46,272 --> 00:47:48,412
some people hard code them in

752
00:47:48,412 --> 00:47:50,412
for convenience reasons or maybe they're

753
00:47:50,412 --> 00:47:52,352
outsourced or maybe they have

754
00:47:52,352 --> 00:47:53,372
contractors who

755
00:47:53,372 --> 00:47:55,592
don't have

756
00:47:55,592 --> 00:47:58,012
incentives that are maybe aligned.

757
00:47:58,332 --> 00:47:58,732
I don't know.

758
00:48:00,072 --> 00:48:02,232
Yeah, it's a crazy story. I just wanted to share

759
00:48:02,232 --> 00:48:04,212
that and then the

760
00:48:04,212 --> 00:48:04,832
other

761
00:48:04,832 --> 00:48:07,852
stuff was I wanted to jump into

762
00:48:07,852 --> 00:48:09,952
my post this week

763
00:48:09,952 --> 00:48:12,352
and this is about the whole SPAC

764
00:48:12,352 --> 00:48:13,352
stuff that's going on.

765
00:48:13,772 --> 00:48:17,532
we were talking about this earlier about how like we're going to get into it but

766
00:48:17,532 --> 00:48:25,472
i and i talk about it here but i i really do think that at least from my perspective i always

767
00:48:25,472 --> 00:48:31,392
thought that bitcoin was going to lead to like this restoration right like it was going to lead

768
00:48:31,392 --> 00:48:37,492
to us rebuilding what the what the our past generations have eroded with the fiat currency

769
00:48:37,492 --> 00:48:47,492
and um a lot of what i see now with the the spack stuff that's happening is it's um

770
00:48:47,492 --> 00:48:53,652
it's it just feels virtuous like it just feels like um

771
00:48:53,652 --> 00:49:01,392
it just it just it just it's just not uh it's just for me spiritually it's just incompatible

772
00:49:01,392 --> 00:49:04,272
with Bitcoin because it has no virtue.

773
00:49:04,392 --> 00:49:05,052
It's all shortcuts.

774
00:49:06,432 --> 00:49:08,052
And it's so sad too.

775
00:49:08,132 --> 00:49:09,432
Like somebody actually made a website.

776
00:49:09,592 --> 00:49:10,452
I don't know if you saw this.

777
00:49:10,692 --> 00:49:11,352
Oh, where is it at?

778
00:49:11,392 --> 00:49:11,892
Let me go back.

779
00:49:12,632 --> 00:49:15,232
Somebody actually made a website for these SPACs.

780
00:49:15,892 --> 00:49:16,692
Where is it at?

781
00:49:16,932 --> 00:49:18,832
Yeah, oneclicktreasury.com.

782
00:49:18,952 --> 00:49:19,972
Let me see if I can find it.

783
00:49:24,252 --> 00:49:26,792
So this got posted this week on Stacker News.

784
00:49:27,452 --> 00:49:28,892
One-click BTC Treasury.

785
00:49:28,892 --> 00:49:31,032
Launch a Bitcoin treasury company in minutes.

786
00:49:31,392 --> 00:49:38,432
um obviously this is a joke but um this is kind of where this is kind of where we're at man like

787
00:49:38,432 --> 00:49:46,892
it's it's it's shit coins 2.0 like look at this company name ticker symbol jurisdiction

788
00:49:46,892 --> 00:49:53,112
all this stuff you then you go through it and then it talks about the pricing so much it's

789
00:49:53,112 --> 00:49:56,992
going to cost you this is what you need to do it like so somebody literally took the playbook and

790
00:49:56,992 --> 00:50:03,272
made and imbibe coded a website to it it's pretty hilarious but this is kind of that shortcut process

791
00:50:03,272 --> 00:50:08,132
i think and i think what this person was doing this was a reported post by scoresby but i think

792
00:50:08,132 --> 00:50:14,952
what this person was doing just kind of showing that you know um this is not going to restore

793
00:50:14,952 --> 00:50:20,512
anything that bitcoin was supposed to do from the very beginning um and uh i just want to i just want

794
00:50:20,512 --> 00:50:24,992
to share light to it because i just we've just been seeing a ton of specs um we don't have to get

795
00:50:24,992 --> 00:50:31,632
into any names or anything like that, but it's just, it's just very, it feels, it just feels

796
00:50:31,632 --> 00:50:37,732
very somber. And I didn't know like what, what to do with this in my head, but I was like, let me

797
00:50:37,732 --> 00:50:43,132
write it out. Cause if I write it out, I'll get it out of my system. Right. So I think, I think

798
00:50:43,132 --> 00:50:48,332
that, and then the other thing that was kind of really spooky, and I'll share this right here,

799
00:50:48,332 --> 00:50:56,112
but a lot of this is from the general theory of reflexivity and i'll leave that for people to look

800
00:50:56,112 --> 00:51:05,052
into but yeah anyways you got any thoughts on the spack stuff i know you don't like talking about it

801
00:51:05,052 --> 00:51:15,132
too much but yeah uh what i just don't um i think there i think the trend is is like dying uh

802
00:51:15,132 --> 00:51:20,992
and to the extent that it still exists if you like listen to what they're saying if you pay

803
00:51:20,992 --> 00:51:25,712
attention to the part where they're not like infinite money glitch and like memeing themselves

804
00:51:25,712 --> 00:51:33,572
into into greatness it's a lot of uh bull it's a lot of bullshit uh specifically around that like

805
00:51:33,572 --> 00:51:38,952
you saw some of these new new SPACs these new treasury companies come out and say things like

806
00:51:38,952 --> 00:51:46,412
we're more pure. We're more pure of a Bitcoin play. We don't have all the traditional

807
00:51:46,412 --> 00:51:54,432
crustiness that MicroStrategy has. We're more pure. And now as the market has responded and

808
00:51:54,432 --> 00:51:58,372
said, we actually don't want anything to do with your SPACs. Now, a lot of them are saying that

809
00:51:58,372 --> 00:52:07,572
they have this technology mission. And it's a Bitcoin technology mission. And it's so important

810
00:52:07,572 --> 00:52:14,112
and it's so complicated and so special and so advanced that you can't understand it though so

811
00:52:14,112 --> 00:52:18,532
they can't explain it to you yet you just won't get it it's so new it's so noble so so it sounds

812
00:52:18,532 --> 00:52:22,952
exactly like you know what that is though though kion like that's actually the scary part about this

813
00:52:22,952 --> 00:52:29,152
post is this is all like out of the soros playbook man that's the scary part about this i haven't

814
00:52:29,152 --> 00:52:34,692
read that yeah yeah like that's what i'm saying it goes even deeper than that um and that's why a

815
00:52:34,692 --> 00:52:40,352
lot of this stuff is no one's talking about it but it needs to be said like this is this is the

816
00:52:40,352 --> 00:52:44,352
same type of thing that's roasted and however you feel about him whether you like him or you don't

817
00:52:44,352 --> 00:52:53,832
like him but a lot of that type of uh chess playing that's going on there you go yeah i think another

818
00:52:53,832 --> 00:52:59,332
another sign of like kind of the grossness of this is i think there are a lot of the people

819
00:52:59,332 --> 00:53:04,112
who are trying to sell these specs are speaking to an audience that maybe had some fomo on like

820
00:53:04,112 --> 00:53:09,572
micro strategies rise to whatever micro strategy is and they're like well you missed out on that

821
00:53:09,572 --> 00:53:14,412
one but this this is going to be just like micro strategy except new so give us your money now

822
00:53:14,412 --> 00:53:19,752
uh early and you'll be in the new micro strategy and it's just like another altcoin meme coin

823
00:53:19,752 --> 00:53:25,072
uh and that's why this website is so good like this is why this website is so i don't have it

824
00:53:25,072 --> 00:53:31,172
keeps coming up wrong the the one click uh bitcoin treasury thing this is why this website's so good

825
00:53:31,172 --> 00:53:38,372
dude because it this is what bitcoiners do best we uh we meme it out of existence

826
00:53:38,372 --> 00:53:44,532
this is what we do best and it's just hilarious that somebody actually took the time to

827
00:53:44,532 --> 00:53:52,312
do all their research because this looks like a legitimate website um yeah

828
00:53:52,312 --> 00:53:59,332
well if you find yourself tempted to uh invest in one of these facts because you

829
00:53:59,332 --> 00:54:03,812
you think it's going to be the next micro strategy, I would recommend you don't.

830
00:54:04,852 --> 00:54:09,932
You know, sometimes I would say a lot of the people who are early in micro strategy stock were

831
00:54:09,932 --> 00:54:14,052
either like ahead of the curve and did the work and kind of understood what they were doing,

832
00:54:14,232 --> 00:54:23,292
or they got lucky. And if you are neither lucky or ahead of the curve and doing your research,

833
00:54:23,292 --> 00:54:31,272
don't expect to get wealthy on one of these these like new specs uh you know the the reliable way

834
00:54:31,272 --> 00:54:36,112
if you if you need to get rich or want to get rich the reliable way to get rich is to create value

835
00:54:36,112 --> 00:54:45,172
um not to find find the scam earlier than other people and invest in it yeah it's uh it's uh

836
00:54:45,972 --> 00:54:53,152
yeah i do feel cleansed though uh now i don't need to talk about it anymore but uh it's definitely

837
00:54:53,152 --> 00:54:55,972
it definitely

838
00:54:55,972 --> 00:54:58,152
was weighing on me

839
00:54:58,152 --> 00:54:59,872
most of this year.

840
00:55:00,672 --> 00:55:02,452
But now I don't feel like that anymore.

841
00:55:02,832 --> 00:55:04,972
But it's

842
00:55:04,972 --> 00:55:06,152
just sad to see.

843
00:55:06,812 --> 00:55:08,792
Sad to see. We gotta pour one out.

844
00:55:10,332 --> 00:55:11,172
The last

845
00:55:11,172 --> 00:55:12,812
one was kind of a funny one.

846
00:55:13,012 --> 00:55:14,772
Fun one, I guess. We have one funny

847
00:55:14,772 --> 00:55:15,812
one this week.

848
00:55:16,792 --> 00:55:18,832
Why do Gen Z have a growing appetite for

849
00:55:18,832 --> 00:55:20,652
retro tech? Keon, do you know why?

850
00:55:20,752 --> 00:55:22,912
They love retro tech like iPods

851
00:55:22,912 --> 00:55:28,192
and PSPs and DVDs and all the things that you want to rent out?

852
00:55:29,012 --> 00:55:29,772
I'm just kidding.

853
00:55:29,992 --> 00:55:30,252
I don't know.

854
00:55:30,352 --> 00:55:35,872
I think there are trade-offs made when you go from purpose-built devices

855
00:55:35,872 --> 00:55:39,052
to generic devices that kind of do everything.

856
00:55:39,432 --> 00:55:40,712
You lose something.

857
00:55:40,732 --> 00:55:42,192
He owns this SNL DVD right there.

858
00:55:42,272 --> 00:55:42,592
Look at that.

859
00:55:42,772 --> 00:55:45,152
I think we sold only three of them.

860
00:55:45,252 --> 00:55:46,732
I don't remember it being one of them.

861
00:55:47,672 --> 00:55:49,392
You know better at the books on that.

862
00:55:51,812 --> 00:55:52,772
Now, what were you saying?

863
00:55:52,772 --> 00:55:57,332
i'm sorry oh no i was just he's so proud of his collection dude he looks like me in 2000

864
00:55:57,332 --> 00:56:01,152
that's what i was with no this is yeah this is the record collection of today

865
00:56:01,152 --> 00:56:05,612
that's really what this is yeah i think i think i think the honestly the truth

866
00:56:05,612 --> 00:56:09,492
and this kind of what we were talking about earlier is like gen z gets has gotten it worse

867
00:56:09,492 --> 00:56:15,432
than millennials and so they're basically getting all the scraps and so that means going to thrift

868
00:56:15,432 --> 00:56:20,932
stores like we were talking about buying dvds buying these old blu-ray players like buying these

869
00:56:20,932 --> 00:56:25,612
I'll buy this technology that's dead because they can't afford the subscriptions for this stuff.

870
00:56:26,052 --> 00:56:27,792
I don't think that's the problem.

871
00:56:28,012 --> 00:56:31,252
I think that kind of correlates if you kind of look into it a little bit more.

872
00:56:31,852 --> 00:56:37,212
Think about how much you're spending per month in just like subscription services, whether it's just like for media or entertainment.

873
00:56:37,692 --> 00:56:42,912
And when you could just go to your local thrift store and find these DVDs for like 50 cents or whatever.

874
00:56:44,412 --> 00:56:45,372
He even says it here.

875
00:56:45,452 --> 00:56:48,392
He goes, the main selling point for me is the cases.

876
00:56:48,512 --> 00:56:50,272
He says, there's something about really clean cases.

877
00:56:50,272 --> 00:56:54,732
He goes, streaming services like Netflix and Disney dominate the market, but Decline says he values ownership.

878
00:56:54,872 --> 00:56:57,692
It's nice to have something you own instead of paying for subscriptions all the time.

879
00:56:58,252 --> 00:57:01,792
If I lost access to streaming tomorrow, I'd still have my favorite movies ready to watch.

880
00:57:02,212 --> 00:57:03,092
That's what he says.

881
00:57:04,372 --> 00:57:05,352
It makes sense.

882
00:57:06,172 --> 00:57:15,612
Well, yeah, this is also like arguing the other way from the first post that we discussed in this podcast about ownership versus renting.

883
00:57:15,612 --> 00:57:25,212
Like Netflix and a lot of these streaming services lower the transaction costs of temporarily getting access to media such that you don't feel the need to own it anymore.

884
00:57:26,232 --> 00:57:29,812
But you lose things when you don't own them.

885
00:57:29,892 --> 00:57:34,032
You lose the forever access that you get when you own something.

886
00:57:34,392 --> 00:57:35,972
So there are just these tradeoffs.

887
00:57:35,972 --> 00:57:46,592
And I think some people prefer either the physical ownership or the, in the case of these devices, like, I think some of the, what is this?

888
00:57:46,632 --> 00:57:48,752
This is like a PSP.

889
00:57:49,052 --> 00:57:49,952
I love my PSP.

890
00:57:49,952 --> 00:57:53,132
Yeah, they want something that is kind of, you know, purpose built.

891
00:57:54,032 --> 00:57:56,752
And the games, the software is purpose built.

892
00:57:56,872 --> 00:57:58,952
Dude, those are better games back then, too, I bet.

893
00:57:59,092 --> 00:57:59,432
I don't know.

894
00:57:59,652 --> 00:58:00,912
It feels like they're better games.

895
00:58:00,912 --> 00:58:01,312
Anyways.

896
00:58:03,932 --> 00:58:04,452
Yeah.

897
00:58:05,972 --> 00:58:13,432
the last post we have is actually i think i think we touched them all yeah i think that was it

898
00:58:13,432 --> 00:58:23,592
um the next one is let's get into meta wumble your favorite person in the world keon launched

899
00:58:23,592 --> 00:58:29,772
a new territory or news territory oh right yeah relaunched the daily zap what do you think about

900
00:58:29,772 --> 00:58:35,972
this uh i think it's cool and i think it's awesome i hadn't um there was a post i think that

901
00:58:35,972 --> 00:58:41,992
supratic did about all the archive territories and i think wombo reached out to me saying that

902
00:58:41,992 --> 00:58:46,692
he had an error when he was trying to purchase territory and i was curious i was i didn't know

903
00:58:46,692 --> 00:58:50,832
which territory he was trying to buy and i think he was trying to play it safe and not mention it

904
00:58:50,832 --> 00:58:55,572
in case someone else swooped in and bought it before him but um i guess it's the news territory

905
00:58:55,572 --> 00:59:00,892
this is this is cool like uh i can actually see that like on uh you know in a building says the

906
00:59:00,892 --> 00:59:06,052
daily zap well it's really cool man and then also too this is good because now we can finally get

907
00:59:06,052 --> 00:59:11,652
regular news into stacker news yeah we had it like i didn't even know a lot of it was being posted

908
00:59:11,652 --> 00:59:22,112
but we had a news territory for a long time uh by c0k1 uh i believe is the is the handle um

909
00:59:22,112 --> 00:59:25,032
And they were a good steward.

910
00:59:25,152 --> 00:59:28,132
They tried to get the territory going.

911
00:59:28,272 --> 00:59:28,852
It's very hard.

912
00:59:28,892 --> 00:59:30,432
It's very hard to run a community.

913
00:59:31,832 --> 00:59:32,232
Yeah.

914
00:59:33,232 --> 00:59:39,972
And I think with some territories, it can be really tricky because it's hard to, what is noose?

915
00:59:40,152 --> 00:59:41,972
Because noose is such a broad thing.

916
00:59:42,052 --> 00:59:46,592
And I think that'll be the struggle for anyone who's trying to tackle a territory called noose.

917
00:59:46,592 --> 01:00:02,168
But I think it kind of international happenings that maybe don fit in any other territory is kind of what what ends up being news i think but i uh i excited to see this because at some point we

918
01:00:02,168 --> 01:00:06,488
be able to be able to get breakdowns in news too right at some point subterritories and

919
01:00:06,488 --> 01:00:11,808
get the austin news and yeah all those other news that'll be cool that'll be cool once we get there

920
01:00:11,808 --> 01:00:17,308
um but yeah really cool stuff i'm excited now i know get to know when the government shuts down

921
01:00:17,308 --> 01:00:23,488
again yeah before yeah before we they get kind of people would be if you wanted to look for news

922
01:00:23,488 --> 01:00:27,968
you go in politics and law depending on the type of it maybe you go it's just too hard to find yeah

923
01:00:27,968 --> 01:00:33,988
it can be kind of tricky where do you go yeah so now there's uh there's a there's a more a broader

924
01:00:33,988 --> 01:00:39,748
home for that yeah the next one is rip 10 this is what makes a good post long form content is

925
01:00:39,748 --> 01:00:44,808
increasing on sn this from simple stacker nine commas 3034 says keel what's this meta yeah he

926
01:00:44,808 --> 01:01:14,088
He did some analysis on how well posts do, depending on their content, and found that, in general, a lot of the longer-form stuff on Stacker News, or maybe at least discussion posts that are roughly medium-form, or links that have some discussion on them, or discussions that have some links on them, they tend to do better than just a link post without a title and no color added to it.

927
01:01:14,808 --> 01:01:28,588
Yeah, and so this is just another simple stacker statistical report on his findings looking at historical data from stacker news.

928
01:01:28,588 --> 01:01:38,308
I think he also shows that by his high-quality metric,

929
01:01:38,708 --> 01:01:41,968
which is posts that have discussion posts with links in them

930
01:01:41,968 --> 01:01:48,188
or discussion posts, they are increasing rather than decreasing,

931
01:01:48,348 --> 01:01:51,488
showing that perhaps because they're rewarded more

932
01:01:51,488 --> 01:01:55,648
or zap more, perform better, get more engagement.

933
01:01:55,648 --> 01:01:57,988
I also think the subscriber thing actually matters too.

934
01:01:57,988 --> 01:02:04,608
like there's some stackers that i'm subscribed to who i'll always zap if it's like a good good post

935
01:02:04,608 --> 01:02:10,148
um so i definitely think that i don't know if i don't know if he has that in the thing or

936
01:02:10,148 --> 01:02:19,128
no i don't think i think you can grow a subscriber list of a sort for um how do you say like for your

937
01:02:19,128 --> 01:02:26,268
notifications and stuff he might have subscribed i i anonymized all the data um but i think he

938
01:02:26,268 --> 01:02:33,708
should still be able to pull out some numerical analysis of uh subscription relationships

939
01:02:33,708 --> 01:02:39,848
yeah some stickers always post good stuff you know my i might actually uh subscribe oh i'm

940
01:02:39,848 --> 01:02:44,428
already subscribed to them there you go there you go i thought it wasn't there you go

941
01:02:44,428 --> 01:02:51,288
yeah i think just having like really good um at least for me that's what works with keeping

942
01:02:51,288 --> 01:02:52,648
track of all this stuff.

943
01:02:53,888 --> 01:02:54,468
It's just being

944
01:02:54,468 --> 01:02:57,148
how do you say subscribe

945
01:02:57,148 --> 01:02:57,708
to people.

946
01:02:59,728 --> 01:03:01,868
The next one is

947
01:03:01,868 --> 01:03:03,388
I think that's it. I think that's

948
01:03:03,388 --> 01:03:05,268
all we got. Oh no. Pleb Poets

949
01:03:05,268 --> 01:03:07,308
Zine. She released a new

950
01:03:07,308 --> 01:03:08,428
zine this week. It's called

951
01:03:08,428 --> 01:03:10,208
let's see

952
01:03:10,208 --> 01:03:13,188
what is it called? Let me see if I can find it. Oh

953
01:03:13,188 --> 01:03:15,288
See the Forest for the Trees. See the

954
01:03:15,288 --> 01:03:16,408
Bitcoin in the zine.

955
01:03:18,568 --> 01:03:19,308
Looks like she's

956
01:03:19,308 --> 01:03:20,468
featuring BitChill.

957
01:03:21,288 --> 01:03:23,988
Billy the Kids, Top Thought.

958
01:03:26,108 --> 01:03:28,548
Dan's Brief Commentary on Futures.

959
01:03:29,508 --> 01:03:31,608
Elvis Mercury and Jason B.

960
01:03:33,188 --> 01:03:35,428
Let's see if we can get the web version loading again.

961
01:03:36,068 --> 01:03:36,408
Maybe.

962
01:03:37,008 --> 01:03:37,688
Maybe not.

963
01:03:37,828 --> 01:03:38,508
Oh, we can.

964
01:03:39,368 --> 01:03:40,148
There you go.

965
01:03:40,668 --> 01:03:41,468
What do you think about that one, Keon?

966
01:03:42,848 --> 01:03:44,168
I think it's great.

967
01:03:44,168 --> 01:03:48,708
I actually hadn't had a chance to peruse this issue yet,

968
01:03:48,868 --> 01:03:50,368
so I'm looking forward to it.

969
01:03:51,288 --> 01:03:58,968
yeah if you want to see it check it out online or buy the zine um and yeah you have uh go to

970
01:03:58,968 --> 01:04:08,808
plebpoet.com zines oh there you go you can get we're also selling uh all of our zines

971
01:04:09,768 --> 01:04:15,368
oh yeah right in a christmas bundle and if you want to if you want a really inconvenienced

972
01:04:15,368 --> 01:04:20,408
blood poet you can you can purchase you have to get them out before christmas is what you're saying

973
01:04:20,408 --> 01:04:25,668
Yeah, she'll have to print out like 50 zines.

974
01:04:26,128 --> 01:04:26,548
That's awesome.

975
01:04:27,488 --> 01:04:31,728
And you get a free Sammy.

976
01:04:31,928 --> 01:04:35,648
It's very experimental, but it should be cool.

977
01:04:35,648 --> 01:04:38,208
They're going to be like, and each zine is in its own sleeve.

978
01:04:38,228 --> 01:04:39,308
Do they get a free sticker too or no?

979
01:04:39,468 --> 01:04:40,228
Do they get a what?

980
01:04:40,388 --> 01:04:41,448
A free stacker news sticker.

981
01:04:41,728 --> 01:04:42,208
Oh, we should.

982
01:04:42,348 --> 01:04:43,708
I think we talked about doing that.

983
01:04:43,768 --> 01:04:45,768
I think we've done that, but each issue is its own.

984
01:04:45,768 --> 01:04:47,428
Well, for Christmas, you're getting a free stacker news sticker.

985
01:04:48,008 --> 01:04:48,308
Okay.

986
01:04:48,308 --> 01:04:53,128
Well, Carr's going to make you a ham for Christmas.

987
01:04:53,668 --> 01:04:54,128
That's what he does.

988
01:04:54,208 --> 01:04:54,768
I'm just kidding.

989
01:04:55,668 --> 01:04:56,488
Talk to Pleb Poet.

990
01:04:56,628 --> 01:04:59,088
She can sneak you in a stacker news sticker.

991
01:04:59,308 --> 01:05:01,828
Each issue is in its own plastic sleeve,

992
01:05:02,208 --> 01:05:04,688
and then that's going to be bound together with rings.

993
01:05:04,688 --> 01:05:06,108
Maybe you guys are doing plastic sleeves now.

994
01:05:06,808 --> 01:05:07,408
That's right, dude.

995
01:05:07,468 --> 01:05:08,468
They're like comic books.

996
01:05:08,728 --> 01:05:09,388
That's awesome.

997
01:05:09,948 --> 01:05:13,408
Pleb Poet was trying to figure out how to, I don't know,

998
01:05:13,448 --> 01:05:17,148
deliver this many zines without just a big stack of unwieldy paper.

999
01:05:17,148 --> 01:05:22,588
You know, I always had an idea for like, well, I guess I shouldn't say it because it'll come true.

1000
01:05:23,988 --> 01:05:24,348
Okay.

1001
01:05:24,468 --> 01:05:24,848
It's okay.

1002
01:05:24,948 --> 01:05:25,488
Let it come true.

1003
01:05:25,568 --> 01:05:26,848
I always had an idea for Pleb Prime.

1004
01:05:27,488 --> 01:05:28,268
Just never did it.

1005
01:05:28,768 --> 01:05:29,468
Pleb Prime?

1006
01:05:30,188 --> 01:05:31,808
It's like Amazon Prime for plebs.

1007
01:05:32,588 --> 01:05:32,948
Okay.

1008
01:05:33,008 --> 01:05:34,028
But how would that work?

1009
01:05:34,248 --> 01:05:34,908
I got an idea.

1010
01:05:36,108 --> 01:05:36,468
Anyways.

1011
01:05:37,628 --> 01:05:38,588
And it's a name.

1012
01:05:38,948 --> 01:05:39,768
You shared the name.

1013
01:05:40,248 --> 01:05:40,828
With an idea.

1014
01:05:40,948 --> 01:05:42,888
I have the name and I have an idea.

1015
01:05:42,888 --> 01:05:45,208
I didn't buy the domain name, though.

1016
01:05:45,288 --> 01:05:46,888
But it's written somewhere.

1017
01:05:47,148 --> 01:05:48,688
Or it's in a note somewhere.

1018
01:05:49,348 --> 01:05:49,828
I forget.

1019
01:05:50,068 --> 01:05:51,808
That was like a 22 car idea.

1020
01:05:52,968 --> 01:05:55,388
Anyways, cool stuff, man.

1021
01:05:56,828 --> 01:05:57,788
Get it now.

1022
01:05:58,788 --> 01:05:59,688
Number 37.

1023
01:06:01,428 --> 01:06:02,628
Yeah, 37.

1024
01:06:02,868 --> 01:06:04,168
So there'll probably be how many more?

1025
01:06:04,728 --> 01:06:05,908
38, 39.

1026
01:06:06,828 --> 01:06:07,868
Maybe we get to 40.

1027
01:06:08,408 --> 01:06:09,428
By the end of the year?

1028
01:06:09,728 --> 01:06:09,968
Yeah.

1029
01:06:10,028 --> 01:06:10,828
How many more weeks are left?

1030
01:06:11,068 --> 01:06:11,928
Two more weeks left.

1031
01:06:12,068 --> 01:06:12,808
Two more weeks left.

1032
01:06:12,808 --> 01:06:13,028
Yeah.

1033
01:06:13,228 --> 01:06:13,808
So we won't get.

1034
01:06:13,908 --> 01:06:14,488
Oh, here she comes.

1035
01:06:14,688 --> 01:06:16,368
40 will probably be the first version.

1036
01:06:16,368 --> 01:06:18,128
How many more zines are left?

1037
01:06:19,508 --> 01:06:25,948
I just want to say, I believe this idea came from Context.

1038
01:06:26,548 --> 01:06:28,888
Yeah, at Context with a K.

1039
01:06:29,988 --> 01:06:35,468
Because of his suggestion, what we're going to do for the final zine of the year is a year in review.

1040
01:06:36,708 --> 01:06:38,628
Wow, that's amazing.

1041
01:06:39,528 --> 01:06:43,568
So how many more zines for the year in review?

1042
01:06:43,568 --> 01:06:45,248
So we got 37.

1043
01:06:45,448 --> 01:06:46,068
That was today.

1044
01:06:46,368 --> 01:06:50,408
38, that was going to be next week, which is going to be...

1045
01:06:50,408 --> 01:06:50,888
39?

1046
01:06:51,648 --> 01:06:53,668
So yeah, 39 will be the final one.

1047
01:06:53,908 --> 01:06:54,948
That's going to be cool.

1048
01:06:55,648 --> 01:06:57,068
Yeah, 39 isn't a great number.

1049
01:06:58,168 --> 01:06:59,708
Is it a prime number?

1050
01:07:00,588 --> 01:07:01,488
It's a prime number.

1051
01:07:01,668 --> 01:07:02,368
Oh, there you go.

1052
01:07:02,568 --> 01:07:03,148
That sounds like a good number.

1053
01:07:03,148 --> 01:07:04,008
Well, it goes into 39.

1054
01:07:04,368 --> 01:07:05,468
What's factors of 39?

1055
01:07:07,048 --> 01:07:09,208
Oh, it's like nine and...

1056
01:07:09,208 --> 01:07:10,728
Yeah, that's for sure.

1057
01:07:10,788 --> 01:07:11,788
That's a really easy one.

1058
01:07:12,828 --> 01:07:13,648
Cool stuff.

1059
01:07:13,648 --> 01:07:14,168
33.

1060
01:07:14,168 --> 01:07:22,208
um yeah can you can you answer the question do you get a free stacker news or an snz sticker or

1061
01:07:22,208 --> 01:07:27,788
anything like that what do you wait what is there like a sticker you get with um during christmas

1062
01:07:27,788 --> 01:07:38,208
no i totally roll back the tape no i haven't done any stickers in a while okay oh excuse yeah

1063
01:07:38,208 --> 01:07:41,228
My machine that cuts the stickers

1064
01:07:41,228 --> 01:07:42,448
Doesn't really like

1065
01:07:42,448 --> 01:07:44,548
We're not really getting along

1066
01:07:44,548 --> 01:07:46,428
Oh wow

1067
01:07:46,428 --> 01:07:47,728
So pray for us

1068
01:07:47,728 --> 01:07:49,048
Yeah

1069
01:07:49,048 --> 01:07:53,068
We will, we'll keep you in our advent calendar

1070
01:07:53,068 --> 01:07:53,728
His name's Frank

1071
01:07:53,728 --> 01:07:55,508
Oh, well

1072
01:07:55,508 --> 01:07:56,468
Check it out

1073
01:07:56,468 --> 01:07:59,568
Check it out, all the zines here

1074
01:07:59,568 --> 01:08:02,308
Oh, then also I should mention

1075
01:08:02,308 --> 01:08:04,528
You know what else makes a great holiday gift?

1076
01:08:05,088 --> 01:08:05,688
I got it

1077
01:08:05,688 --> 01:08:07,128
It's on my coffee table

1078
01:08:07,128 --> 01:08:15,608
her book oh yeah go to that click that button and see this one and see this is a great um

1079
01:08:15,608 --> 01:08:22,828
wow did you vibe code that bro you can see like half the pages yeah

1080
01:08:22,828 --> 01:08:30,108
and then you can buy somebody's going to take this book and write songs with it i just know it

1081
01:08:30,108 --> 01:08:35,748
i can feel it um but yeah you should you should definitely get it it makes a great holiday gift

1082
01:08:35,748 --> 01:08:38,888
there you go

1083
01:08:38,888 --> 01:08:42,188
a tiny inkling of things far beyond me

1084
01:08:42,188 --> 01:08:44,808
should be good stuff

1085
01:08:44,808 --> 01:08:46,128
alright cool

1086
01:08:46,128 --> 01:08:47,648
let's jump into

1087
01:08:47,648 --> 01:08:49,328
Top Cowboys

1088
01:08:49,328 --> 01:08:50,548
baby

1089
01:08:50,548 --> 01:08:53,848
Top Cowboys

1090
01:08:53,848 --> 01:08:56,308
where is it at

1091
01:08:56,308 --> 01:08:57,408
Top Cowboys

1092
01:08:57,408 --> 01:08:58,968
right there

1093
01:08:58,968 --> 01:09:00,468
you got your hat

1094
01:09:00,468 --> 01:09:01,808
oh okay

1095
01:09:01,808 --> 01:09:03,428
what's going on

1096
01:09:03,428 --> 01:09:05,268
you're out of it

1097
01:09:05,268 --> 01:09:11,108
have you been sleeping you've been getting enough air uh i think i'm low on carbon dioxide i'm fine

1098
01:09:11,108 --> 01:09:16,968
i'm just you know like are you high on carbon dioxide high on carb you can say whatever you

1099
01:09:16,968 --> 01:09:23,868
want it's fine um yeah so okay so we got cowboys again i don't see the most popular segment in

1100
01:09:23,868 --> 01:09:27,688
bitcoin oh that's right we forget to remind everyone it's the most popular segment it's

1101
01:09:27,688 --> 01:09:32,268
really a warning that we need to do this is really why we haven't uh cut this up it could

1102
01:09:32,268 --> 01:09:37,788
harmful your health if you why one wasn't clipped this this is where all the alpha is at in this one

1103
01:09:37,788 --> 01:09:45,928
segment no what i'm sorry i think what happens is i get when you talk over me i get hypnotized

1104
01:09:45,928 --> 01:09:49,148
and i just can't i think that's like part of i'll stop talking over you

1105
01:09:49,148 --> 01:09:55,968
i just i just want to talk a little shit back um you should okay so i don't think anything it's

1106
01:09:55,968 --> 01:10:00,668
good for the views right yeah listens perhaps but yeah maybe people like it people like the

1107
01:10:00,668 --> 01:10:08,648
back and forth yeah i think yeah i like watching a steamroller work that's how that's like uh

1108
01:10:08,648 --> 01:10:14,888
and uh okay but uh i don't think anything's really much has changed in the lists here as

1109
01:10:14,888 --> 01:10:19,088
far as i can tell there's probably been some movement but probably not ot right dramatic

1110
01:10:19,088 --> 01:10:25,768
amounts of it looks like it could be ot ot check if you're listening to this check your nodes uh

1111
01:10:25,768 --> 01:10:31,808
your receiving note it is it is being wonky so he's pretty busy he's the father husband a big

1112
01:10:31,808 --> 01:10:37,828
corner musician a composer a traveler a large maximus those are a lot he's got a lot going on

1113
01:10:37,828 --> 01:10:47,228
manteca love it um let's keep going yeah what else we got court reporter womble um keppard

1114
01:10:47,228 --> 01:10:57,308
flat poet cj i'm right there 40 jb 55 came back he did an ama this he did an ama it was a great ama

1115
01:10:57,308 --> 01:11:01,228
did you click on it uh did you ask him a question i did ask him a question i asked him

1116
01:11:01,228 --> 01:11:09,868
c versus rust and he said c that was oh wow yeah yeah let's see pretty crazy stuff

1117
01:11:09,868 --> 01:11:14,168
love to see it uh who else do we have

1118
01:11:14,168 --> 01:11:21,268
oscar was here this week oh yeah yeah oscar had some more i think he had news too

1119
01:11:21,268 --> 01:11:28,568
gosh so much stuff happening i always remind yeah right here this one uh fat 1.4 got released

1120
01:11:28,568 --> 01:11:33,728
yeah they just announced it today it looks like they basically revamped their wallet yeah

1121
01:11:33,728 --> 01:11:35,748
they're using strike

1122
01:11:35,748 --> 01:11:38,828
oh they switch to strike

1123
01:11:38,828 --> 01:11:41,128
I think that's what I read at the bottom earlier when I skimmed it

1124
01:11:41,128 --> 01:11:43,008
yeah withdraw strike is doing great

1125
01:11:43,008 --> 01:11:44,348
things we're proud to partner with them

1126
01:11:44,348 --> 01:11:45,428
there you go

1127
01:11:45,428 --> 01:11:48,068
cool stuff

1128
01:11:48,068 --> 01:11:49,648
oh I don't know if they're using strike

1129
01:11:49,648 --> 01:11:52,968
you might be able to withdraw to strike

1130
01:11:52,968 --> 01:11:54,688
but maybe it might not be

1131
01:11:54,688 --> 01:11:56,128
a strike wallet underneath

1132
01:11:56,128 --> 01:11:57,568
okay yeah

1133
01:11:57,568 --> 01:12:00,248
cool check it out

1134
01:12:00,248 --> 01:12:03,008
and who else do we have

1135
01:12:03,008 --> 01:12:03,848
that was here this week.

1136
01:12:04,588 --> 01:12:05,668
I thought I saw somebody else.

1137
01:12:06,188 --> 01:12:07,348
Yeah, Geyser was here this week.

1138
01:12:08,068 --> 01:12:08,828
Plunda was here.

1139
01:12:08,908 --> 01:12:10,308
I was talking to Plunda this week on there.

1140
01:12:10,988 --> 01:12:12,268
And yeah, there's Plunda.

1141
01:12:13,628 --> 01:12:14,988
And Peter Tomaheider.

1142
01:12:15,588 --> 01:12:16,428
Bitcoin PlebDev.

1143
01:12:16,488 --> 01:12:18,428
Oh yeah, Bitcoin PlebDev had a release this week.

1144
01:12:18,468 --> 01:12:19,088
I saw that.

1145
01:12:19,868 --> 01:12:20,648
Where's that one at?

1146
01:12:21,928 --> 01:12:22,668
Yeah, yeah.

1147
01:12:22,868 --> 01:12:23,188
Froster.

1148
01:12:23,328 --> 01:12:24,248
Yeah, he released Froster.

1149
01:12:24,348 --> 01:12:24,868
Did you see this?

1150
01:12:25,548 --> 01:12:26,228
Oh, yeah.

1151
01:12:26,308 --> 01:12:28,368
I mean, a lot of these posts just came in.

1152
01:12:28,368 --> 01:12:29,808
I saw this briefly.

1153
01:12:31,768 --> 01:12:32,588
There you go.

1154
01:12:33,008 --> 01:12:39,748
pretty awesome i still haven't dove into froster yet but that should make it a lot easier for me

1155
01:12:39,748 --> 01:12:46,608
to give it a shot i'd love to see it uh everybody's shipping before the end of the year yeah i'd love

1156
01:12:46,608 --> 01:12:55,508
to see it you want to deliver um and we got socks 93 sooks sooks um and that's it that's all we got

1157
01:12:55,508 --> 01:13:02,868
oh wait hang on i think we got one more one more yeah we got right here we got

1158
01:13:02,868 --> 01:13:09,128
comments apparently graphene os we had a comment here that said google won't do google wallet on

1159
01:13:09,128 --> 01:13:13,988
graphene os so no thanks and then somebody said nexus is the hardware from last two decades

1160
01:13:13,988 --> 01:13:16,808
are they talking about the nexus phone are they talking about which phone is that

1161
01:13:16,808 --> 01:13:22,828
i don't know this is on an old post right yeah yeah that one that got quite a few views about

1162
01:13:22,828 --> 01:13:30,688
graphene i think the nexus was what they used to call their google phone oh this is before the

1163
01:13:30,688 --> 01:13:36,328
pixel i think so maybe that's something else i maybe that was the one that they partnered did

1164
01:13:36,328 --> 01:13:40,388
they partner with somebody before they started making their own hardware i don't remember but

1165
01:13:40,388 --> 01:13:45,808
i do remember something google releasing that was called nexus at some point so well

1166
01:13:45,808 --> 01:13:51,308
and then we had some fountain comments blockchain boots exact undiscipline said

1167
01:13:51,308 --> 01:13:58,288
we're above you jabronis on the charts right now oh let's probably would you start it coob now now

1168
01:13:58,288 --> 01:14:04,148
they hate us i didn't start anything i was beef with the our only friends on the podcast circuit

1169
01:14:04,148 --> 01:14:10,128
or one of us true really we should be a few friends we should be partnering and promoting

1170
01:14:10,128 --> 01:14:14,248
each other you know you know you know what i propose i just thought this right now you know

1171
01:14:14,248 --> 01:14:18,688
i propose i think they should do an episode of snl and we do an episode of stacker sports

1172
01:14:18,688 --> 01:14:25,128
you could do that yeah we flip like you flip for a week and see like what like what like what

1173
01:14:25,128 --> 01:14:31,548
like what happens like we take their format we do their format and then they do our format for one

1174
01:14:31,548 --> 01:14:37,628
week what do you think about that how do you think that would go uh i think it's convoluted and no

1175
01:14:37,628 --> 01:14:42,188
one would get it it's like too much of an inside joke and it's only it's only the only people get

1176
01:14:42,188 --> 01:14:46,308
it is us and them and everyone else would be confused uh but we should do something like

1177
01:14:46,308 --> 01:14:52,508
you know like lex friedman and joe rogan oh hey like you know they kind of like partnered up and

1178
01:14:52,508 --> 01:14:53,388
Did they partner up?

1179
01:14:53,888 --> 01:14:54,308
I don't know.

1180
01:14:54,348 --> 01:14:57,288
It seemed like they did for a while where they were kind of,

1181
01:14:57,288 --> 01:14:58,688
I don't know, having each other on.

1182
01:14:58,848 --> 01:15:00,028
I don't know how that would work.

1183
01:15:00,148 --> 01:15:01,328
I don't know how partnerships work.

1184
01:15:02,448 --> 01:15:04,408
I'm too antisocial to know how partnerships work.

1185
01:15:04,688 --> 01:15:05,748
Are you going to go on their show?

1186
01:15:06,608 --> 01:15:08,748
I don't have anything to say about sports.

1187
01:15:10,268 --> 01:15:14,668
They want to talk about lightning wallets.

1188
01:15:15,308 --> 01:15:16,768
I'm an expert on that right now.

1189
01:15:17,648 --> 01:15:19,508
Anyways, I thought that was a funny comment about this.

1190
01:15:19,668 --> 01:15:20,768
I know they're just joking.

1191
01:15:20,768 --> 01:15:26,068
it would be tough to fill in gray ruby shoes he's pretty like when you listen to their podcast like

1192
01:15:26,068 --> 01:15:32,108
they're pretty in depth like yeah sports stuff i know i remember i was like i did a little bit of

1193
01:15:32,108 --> 01:15:38,248
uh what a super bowl analysis where oh yeah and then he just like completely schooled me i was

1194
01:15:38,248 --> 01:15:43,148
he was like no that is not who that that is not where that player ranks in the league or whatever

1195
01:15:43,148 --> 01:15:48,388
and it's like yeah it's a good pot definitely check it out oh let's see here what else we got

1196
01:15:48,388 --> 01:15:51,908
I think that's it. Oh, wait, you got one comment from Super Sacker.

1197
01:15:52,448 --> 01:15:56,128
He says, I can't even count the number of times a young, fresh-faced college student has told me

1198
01:15:56,128 --> 01:16:00,428
they want to make the Airbnb of, whether that's surfboards,

1199
01:16:00,568 --> 01:16:04,168
ski equipment, video games, or whatever. For some reason, those ideas haven't really taken off.

1200
01:16:04,208 --> 01:16:06,148
I wonder why that is. There you go, Keon.

1201
01:16:07,428 --> 01:16:10,868
Can I count the number of times a young, so they want to make...

1202
01:16:10,868 --> 01:16:14,268
Oh. When you were talking earlier about your

1203
01:16:14,268 --> 01:16:17,548
early startup idea? I think the way you... I didn't know...

1204
01:16:17,548 --> 01:16:20,748
like I imagine it sort of being like a huge Amazon global thing.

1205
01:16:20,788 --> 01:16:23,388
I think what you want to do is you want to probably start out on a college

1206
01:16:23,388 --> 01:16:26,688
town, have a warehouse, and then just,

1207
01:16:26,928 --> 01:16:30,408
you serve only that local town and you figure out how to make that work.

1208
01:16:30,408 --> 01:16:32,628
And I'm not saying I have all the answers, how to make that work,

1209
01:16:32,688 --> 01:16:35,108
but I think that's where you'd start is you have, you know,

1210
01:16:35,128 --> 01:16:39,148
a small college town with a population of maybe 50,000 where there's like a

1211
01:16:39,148 --> 01:16:43,288
high need for kind of temporary usage of things too,

1212
01:16:43,408 --> 01:16:45,488
which I think would overlap well with a college town.

1213
01:16:45,488 --> 01:16:51,108
and then you just want to build a great website that's really easy to browse and really easy to

1214
01:16:51,108 --> 01:16:55,688
find thing and find things simple stack right now no but this is how i would build it today if i were

1215
01:16:55,688 --> 01:16:59,308
to build this if i were trying to build this as a business like that's how that's how i think you

1216
01:16:59,308 --> 01:17:04,548
want to do it when i did it i didn't really know too much about how you might need to start something

1217
01:17:04,548 --> 01:17:08,328
like that but that's probably how you do it i think it probably will happen it just might

1218
01:17:08,328 --> 01:17:13,188
just listen to the airbnb what's his name brian chess chess ski chess ski whatever just listen to

1219
01:17:13,188 --> 01:17:18,728
interviews like it sounds like the when you bring rural road and then the two-sided marketplace and

1220
01:17:18,728 --> 01:17:24,388
i mean it's tough man well that's the thing about threat like stuff like this is it's you're

1221
01:17:24,388 --> 01:17:30,188
primarily just uh you're accepting donations so like you are provided you are it's a one-sided

1222
01:17:30,188 --> 01:17:35,208
marketplace because you're pretty much fully providing the supply sort of like amazon does

1223
01:17:35,208 --> 01:17:41,088
it's just so you only have to fulfill the demand um which should be i think for a lot of things

1224
01:17:41,088 --> 01:17:45,648
pretty easy if they're if you're gonna get the cost low anyway that's my thought about it

1225
01:17:45,648 --> 01:17:51,508
uh optim said till kub has a really great partner because he only needs to drill for one hour

1226
01:17:51,508 --> 01:17:57,268
a year well what what does your partner have you doing where you're using a drill more than a like

1227
01:17:57,268 --> 01:18:03,108
do you have any like build her like a i don't know like a separate unit a separate wing of

1228
01:18:03,108 --> 01:18:13,168
the house or something yeah i live in a 600 square foot uh single bedroom i don't know what

1229
01:18:13,168 --> 01:18:17,328
you call it like uh it was like built in the 1930s it's tiny there's like not a whole there

1230
01:18:17,328 --> 01:18:24,608
there aren't there aren't enough things to drill into yeah amount to more than a year so um sounds

1231
01:18:24,608 --> 01:18:29,668
like everybody's coming right now what are you doing this weekend kiyon uh i think i need to

1232
01:18:29,668 --> 01:18:34,388
set up my office still haven't done it yet everything is in like more or less out of boxes

1233
01:18:34,388 --> 01:18:42,108
but not arranged so it'd be nice to get get things somewhat organized and livable so that's probably

1234
01:18:42,108 --> 01:18:47,548
my my big my big great task this weekend how about you what are you i'm definitely gonna have a beer

1235
01:18:47,548 --> 01:18:51,128
right after this show and then we're gonna go watch a show we're gonna go we're gonna go to a

1236
01:18:51,128 --> 01:18:56,308
show tonight what show who are you seeing i don't know who we're seeing i think um some band should

1237
01:18:56,308 --> 01:19:00,848
be good nick nick has a certain type of music that he likes right yeah me and him grew up in

1238
01:19:00,848 --> 01:19:06,708
the same type of music it's like punk pop right it's like it's like 2000s like avril lavine type

1239
01:19:06,708 --> 01:19:11,088
yeah it's like all the bands we used to listen to me and nick used to listen to like thrice and

1240
01:19:11,088 --> 01:19:18,548
like uh saves the day all that stuff okay so a little more rock pop it's like the 2000s 2010s

1241
01:19:18,548 --> 01:19:24,888
yeah okay but you're just you're giving me a year it's not not like people who follow me on

1242
01:19:24,888 --> 01:19:30,388
stacker news know what kind of music i'll just post enough music post to let people know um but

1243
01:19:30,388 --> 01:19:34,888
yeah we're gonna go do that that should be fun i'm gonna go drink a beer and uh yeah i'll be here

1244
01:19:34,888 --> 01:19:38,868
tomorrow uh what are we doing tomorrow there's something going on tomorrow

1245
01:19:38,868 --> 01:19:48,568
oh i guess not mine slipped anyways y'all have yourself a great weekend stackers we'll see you

1246
01:19:48,568 --> 01:19:49,708
next time zap