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live from plan lab in austin texas this is stacker news live

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hello ladies and welcome back to another exciting news

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Snacker News only, but we're going to be here.

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Keone, how's your week?

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I'm good.

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My week is good.

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Not as good as yours, apparently.

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This is going to be an off-the-rails Snacker News Live.

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I took a shower today.

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Look at the cameras all janked up.

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We're everywhere today.

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We're doing a lot.

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This is what the Snackers want.

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How was your week?

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It was good, yeah.

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I think it was pretty good.

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It's been busy outside, but I haven't spent a lot of time out there.

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so. Yeah.

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It was cool. I just met Clark Moody

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for the first time. I heard that.

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Yeah. He's really nice.

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I told him about my

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prayers app. I'm building my

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watch app. Is he going to invest?

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No. No, I just

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tell him that I was coding. He asked me what I was coding

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on my codex. Did you tell him to add the link to his dashboard?

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Oh, that could probably be cool, but

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I don't know if that would work, but inside the same app.

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Do you have a name for it yet? He should make like a dashboard

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for the watch, though. That'd be cool.

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Like a dashboard watch.

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Oh, yeah.

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Clark Moody.

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Clark Moody Watch.

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Moody Watch.

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Anyways, that was right before the show.

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But, yeah, it's been a crazy week.

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Dude, I'm so tired, but now it's just energy and vibes that are getting me through the rest of it.

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Yeah, I heard you guys were partying pretty hard last night.

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We had some people with claw.

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Where were they?

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White claws, open claws.

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No, they were throwing an open claw party upstairs.

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And then we were at the Omni drinking.

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and then these guys came up to us

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wanting to fight us.

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I don't know. It was weird, dude.

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I wanted to invite you.

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What was it?

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They were drunk.

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They just looked at us.

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You look like AI people.

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But they had a whole

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open claw thing on their head.

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It was weird, dude.

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They had an open claw hat?

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Yeah, those guys.

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No, they weren't drunk.

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They were just old and angry.

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Yeah, they were just old and angry.

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Angry about being old.

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Yeah, old and...

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Angry about Open Claw.

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Angry about something.

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I don't know.

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They needed some beers.

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They were enthusiastic about Open Claw.

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Oh, I see.

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I think they were angry that we weren't as enthusiastic as they were.

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I mean, they were wearing a hat, dude.

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They were wearing a hat.

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I don't know how...

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There's no way I'm going to wear a stupid Open Claw hat.

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It's like Mickey Mouse ears.

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Yeah, it was like Mickey Mouse ears.

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Oh, was it like a...

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Was it a Lobster Claw hat?

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Yeah, but there was two different kinds.

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This is like the springy one.

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And there's like the actual thing.

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It's like they made it at home.

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They bought it.

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No, it looked like they...

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Oh, really?

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Yeah, because they both had different hats.

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Did you see the second one?

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The Lover one looked like a lobster was actually swallowing his head.

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Dude, it's kind of weird, man.

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Like this year, there's definitely a riff of open claw fanatics

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and just regular AI people.

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I'm noticing it.

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Not a rift, but there's a clear delineation is what I'm saying.

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And I didn't think that two weeks ago, but I definitely see it clear.

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There's a movement happening with Open Claw,

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and then there's just a regular AI movement that's happening.

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And I don't think those two things intersect.

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Well, they should.

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They should.

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So I imagine they will.

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But last night, after last night, it almost seemed like they were like,

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I'm better than you because I have Open Claw.

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Well, I wonder why.

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I don't know.

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How do I love to hear the reasons why they think Open Claw is Open Claw?

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It was weird.

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It was a weird thing.

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We were just, like, drinking.

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Anyways, we'll talk about all that stuff.

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We're going to cover a lot of things today.

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If you've ever seen this crazy show, it's called Stanker News.

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Well, let me go to YouTube real quick.

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It's called Stanker News Live.

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If you go to the search, you type in Stanker.

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You type in N.

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Boom.

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First thing that comes up, baby.

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How about how do you like them apples?

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Those aren't apples.

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How do you like them search bars?

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You have 7707 videos.

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Excuse me.

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We have all sorts of things.

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Do we keep losing subscribers?

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Dude, people keep subscribing to this stupid show.

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I don't understand what's going on.

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Stop subscribing.

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Yeah, I don't know.

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Like, it went from 6.01, and now it's 6.30.

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Do you think we can tell YouTube to remove the button?

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And there used to be no one watching.

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Now there's five people actually watching this, which is, why would they watch me just?

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Maybe it's, like, all the open claws in the office.

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And look, you can tell all the recording stuff has gotten worse over time.

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We're like bobbing ourselves.

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It's pretty bad.

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It's almost like, yeah.

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Hey, we'll get there, Snackers.

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We got Ovi in the house.

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Ovi, representing that Plow Blub shirt.

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I'd love to see it.

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Oh, yeah.

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I was looking for the Wi-Fi password.

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Oh, you're looking for the Wi-Fi password?

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I can't say it on air.

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You're in Slack, though, aren't you?

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Yeah, you should be in there.

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Just type in Wi-Fi password.

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Can you give him the Wi-Fi password, Tofu?

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Sorry.

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Sorry, stackers.

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We're running a hacker space at the same time.

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Yeah, this is, yeah.

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This is everyday life.

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Running a hacker space.

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I was going to say, but yeah, if you've ever seen this great show,

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check out what Wumble does.

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He does picks every week, and apparently the burger one's not taking off.

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No one cares about McDonald's.

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The one that was surprising I saw this week was the BIP one.

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42 people tuned in to see that.

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Oh, yeah, I think we got called.

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Spam. Oh, we're going to cover it in comments.

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I saw that.

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You got to tease them out.

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Talk about that at the end of the show.

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All right, let's jump into the top three stories this week on Stagger News Live.

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This is Keon, book review.

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Everybody Loves Our Dollars by Oliver Burrell from Den.

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15 comments, 14,000 cents.

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Keon, what's this?

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Yeah, so Den read this guy's book, and this guy is like, you know,

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kind of a traditional, it seems like a traditional finance journalist type guy.

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and he blames or, yeah, he kind of blames like a lack of effective money laundering,

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anti-money laundering schemes or systems or like whatever

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for much of the bad things that happen in the world.

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Because he does the math of like criminals use money

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and so if we stop the money of the criminals, then we stop the crime.

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and the criminals aren't profitable, that's the anti-money laundering math.

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and why it's kind of systemically flawed.

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he comes to the conclusion that we should actually just make these anti-money laundering just much better

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or somehow fix it by introducing more government stuff into banks

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or make it better.

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Make anti-money laundering better, meaning do more of it

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and have a wider net for it, and that might prevent the stuff.

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Anyway, so Dan is kind of reading this as a Bitcoiner

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and processes it for us and explains it

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so that we don't have to read it, which we probably wouldn't.

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and yeah I thought it was

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I'm generally curious about how money laundering works

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because I have no idea and we hear about it

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all the time and supposedly all the KYC

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and stuff that we all hate is

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in service of preventing this kind of

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this week from

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let's see who is it from

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Squaresby he said

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let me see here he said oh wow he said

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gd on fire is what that is preach sir preach uh dan said pretty well but now

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did i look at it again in your comment thanks and of course be sure to tweet um yeah

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cool stuff uh let's jump into the next one number two top story this week is invitation to monk fest

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the new freedom territory this is from cypher uh three comments 15 000 sats key on what's this

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Yeah, so Cyphermonk House, I think, is like a Bitcoin space, Bitcoin freedom tech space in London.

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Oh, cool.

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And I guess they're throwing an event coming up on the 21st and the 22nd.

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It's sponsored by Angor, which is like a, I think, possibly a spinoff from Geyser.

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that's on Noster and uses time lock contracts

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to gate donations to whoever's fundraising.

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Anyway, that's the sponsors, though,

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and Yakahone is also a sponsor, which is a Noster client.

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It looks like your typical fare.

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It looks like they're doing workshops and general kind of socializing.

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They have a pitch contest.

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awarding 1.7 million sats among the participants lots of speakers see we have metamick from geyser

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there some of these the cypher monk people that's cool i guess regular regulars there dude i would

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love to go to that because there's always like this or at least my understanding of london night

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which i don't know but there's always this like underground like music dj vibe i always get from

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the UK and London.

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Because I always listen to it when I'm working.

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And it's all the good

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DJs and

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how do you say the... I don't know.

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Something about overcast

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weather maybe. I don't know.

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It's just really good music that comes out of London.

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And this kind of reminds me of that.

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You know what I mean? Do you know what I'm saying?

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Maybe I'm not explaining myself.

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I think I get what... I mean, I hear the words

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you're saying. I can make sense of them.

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This is cool!

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Wow.

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I wish they had more pictures of the space and events and stuff.

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You can kind of find them if you dig a little bit on NoSurfer pictures.

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Yeah, if you're in London, go out there and support your local Cypher Monk hub.

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You probably need some volunteers to help out, so reach out.

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Cool thing.

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I'd love to see it.

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They even have a trailer.

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Should we play it?

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Oh, there he goes.

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That's cool.

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Oh, wow.

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more toxic whoa that's cool oh wow oh that's a good vibe we love to see it

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yeah it's just yeah it's just cool people getting together and making cool shit love it

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um cool stuff we're gonna jump into the number one story this week it's the other bitcoin mystery

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Where's Fried Cat?

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This is from Sikki47, 37 comments, 41k sats.

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Wow.

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Keon, what's this?

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Yeah, I had not heard of Fried Cat, but I guess Fried Cat was one of the early ASICs manufacturers.

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I think possibly the first.

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I read this a few weeks ago, or not a few days ago, so I might be a little bit rusty on my recollection of it.

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he

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a Chinese born

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did some kind of

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sort of joint exchange thing

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he went to the university

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had a joint exchange thing with Yale

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there he met his future wife

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and future business partner

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got into Bitcoin

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got into Austrian economics

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and that kind of stuff

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around the same time

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he then dropped out of the university

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and moved back to China

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to Shenzhen

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where it's like now the technology center of where all this technology stuff gets manufactured now.

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But they moved there to start ASIC Miner, which produced ASICs.

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I think their original plan was rather than to sell these ASICs to other people for them to mine,

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they were going to mine them themselves.

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They were going to mine Bitcoin themselves with them.

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They were going to manufacture and mine it and not resell the underlying hardware.

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and I guess it was

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really successful. I think it's also

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considered the first

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ICO

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ever. There was something

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called the

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Bitcoin

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Stock Exchange. Global Bitcoin Stock

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Exchange. There's an old

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Bitcoin talk poster. You can look into that.

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So did he invent the thing here?

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Did he invent this camera?

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He didn't invent the ASIC but that is

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a device that they ended up producing.

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That's awesome. Which you can still buy on

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eBay. Yeah, I've seen those.

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Topher, don't you have these right here?

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Don't you have one of those?

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The ASIC minor block. The USB ones?

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The USB minor.

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These right here? The cute little baby ones.

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Don't you have those?

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Circuit 20 tiles. They're the nerd miners.

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You have a nerd. You have a modern

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version that can actually still

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mine. Sort of.

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You can at least water them.

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It tells you

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It has a module, and it tells you exactly how much SATs it is, right?

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It has a screen and everything.

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Oh, wow.

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That's cool.

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It's got Wi-Fi.

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Yeah, so eventually they produced those, I think a year or two in,

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to the founding of ASIC Miner, they produced those.

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I guess also one of the early investors in ASIC Miner was the future Wu Jihan,

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the future founder of...

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Hey, Ovi, can you grab me a beer?

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Sorry.

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Bitmain.

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Sorry, Keon.

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Oh, it's okay.

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I'm on a roll.

328
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I'm used to doing this podcast.

329
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Hey, this is, like, dude, I've been working so hard since November for one week.

330
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Yeah, I've been on vacation.

331
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Oh, you have it?

332
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So this is a different one.

333
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Let me see.

334
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Can you show the camera?

335
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That's the one that Topher has.

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Plug it in.

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It just lights up when you plug it in.

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I don't have a USB-C.

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Do you have a USB-C?

340
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Oh, you have a MacBook.

341
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Yeah.

342
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But that's it right there.

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And then it has that.

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I can see that.

345
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That's cool.

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Is that the same people?

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It's probably four times

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of USB-A.

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Do you use them,

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Tiff, or no?

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I use one.

352
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Yeah,

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because it's fun to look at.

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It gives you, like,

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the block height,

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the time,

357
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all that stuff.

358
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Oh, wow.

359
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That's awesome.

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Yeah.

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You can plug it

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into that thing right there.

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People with your MacBooks,

364
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it's like,

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is USB-A dead now?

366
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I think so, yeah.

367
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It's time has passed.

368
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Yeah.

369
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But it's useful for historical reasons.

370
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Yeah.

371
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Okay.

372
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So what happened with him?

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He just kept, oh, thanks, Ovi.

374
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Chip your server?

375
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I can tip you in stats later.

376
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Did that power cord work for you or no?

377
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It didn't?

378
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Okay.

379
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We should have some more in the other one in that little bin over there.

380
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That's scary.

381
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Sorry, I can't keep going.

382
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Is there anything else you'd like to do?

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No.

384
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Okay.

385
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Would you like to?

386
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Hey, the stackers love this.

387
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The stackers love seeing this stuff.

388
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Let's do some meat, maybe.

389
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We could do some meat.

390
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some historic yeah um okay uh anyway as i was saying he one of the early investors in

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uh asic minor was the future founder wu jihan the future founder of bitmain you're talking about

392
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the actual the main guy yeah the guy like the biggest asic manufacturer now

393
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he was like whatever happened to him i always remember hearing about him in like 2017 2018

394
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I mean, I presume he's still out there, still making, still running that company.

395
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I don't really know.

396
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Because he was with this whole soft fork when that happened wasn he My recollection is off I think he might have been on the Bitcoin Cash side Yeah he was on the Bitcoin Cash side I don think it matters though because maybe it affected his bags

397
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maybe the company's treasury, but as far as I know,

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they're still the largest producer of ASICs.

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Or maybe that company forked as a result. I don't really know.

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Maybe that'll be a future post for Ziggy to cover.

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Anyway, while ASIC Miner did really well at first,

402
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Eventually, it ran into issues, I think, with their third-generation chip.

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And from that point forward, he really never – the company really never recovered.

404
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And the way Siggy tells the story, shortly after a fried cat, which is great in him,

405
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made a deal with someone to do sort of like shadow mining in a food refrigerator,

406
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kind of remotely with cheap energy prices.

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Shortly after that, he disappeared.

408
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And there's some suspicion that the arrangement, the partnership went south.

409
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Well, it did go south, and then it went so south,

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possibly with mafia affiliations that it was like killed

411
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or felt so bad about the outcome of that partnership

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that he ended up disappearing himself and leaving the country.

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But no one really knows, and it's like a Marcia Persaud story.

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I think that's what interests Siggy,

415
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is that we have this Bitcoiner who did all these important things

416
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and then vanishes.

417
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Dude, I feel like somebody should make a book, maybe Siggy,

418
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you can make a book and then just call it The Real Ones,

419
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and it just has people like this that no one ever talked about

420
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but did a tremendous amount of work for Bitcoin.

421
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I think people have talked quite a bit about Narcia Purcell.

422
00:18:08,110 --> 00:18:11,370
I think Friedcat is totally unknown to me.

423
00:18:11,850 --> 00:18:13,110
Yeah, I never heard of him either.

424
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Sumerly Bitcoiners are familiar with him.

425
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That would be cool to have a book that talks about stuff like that.

426
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Clearly these devices were very popular.

427
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I guess at one point they had, I think they had 42% of all hash rate on the network.

428
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You had the number one comment.

429
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It said disappearing completely is such an uncommon thing.

430
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Almost always think it's murder, suicide.

431
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Then again, we're dealing with uncommon people.

432
00:18:36,250 --> 00:18:36,910
Why do you say that for him?

433
00:18:37,870 --> 00:18:38,710
Yeah, because I don't.

434
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That's like one of the possible ways he vanished was him choosing to leave the country

435
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and not using that identity really again.

436
00:18:48,710 --> 00:18:50,110
And that just seems kind of uncommon.

437
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I don't know of anyone who's done that before.

438
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I feel like I've known at least two people, I won't mention any names,

439
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that have just like disappeared.

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And when we ask about them,

441
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they're like, oh, I don't know where they are.

442
00:19:00,810 --> 00:19:02,090
Oh, I don't know anyone like that.

443
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But maybe there's been tons of, not tons,

444
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there's at least two Bitcoiners I can think of

445
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where you just don't hear about them anymore.

446
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Yeah, but I think like the,

447
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those aren't Bitcoiners that like the news media pursues

448
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and people try to figure out where they are.

449
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I'm sure if they did, they could figure out where they are.

450
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They can't figure out where this guy is.

451
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In which case it seems wrong.

452
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You got it running, Topher?

453
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Yeah.

454
00:19:22,150 --> 00:19:23,590
Oh, he said, yeah, Topher has it running.

455
00:19:23,590 --> 00:19:26,610
You should be able to bring that cord if you want.

456
00:19:28,410 --> 00:19:30,210
Oh, yeah, you can plug it in here, can't you?

457
00:19:31,070 --> 00:19:32,050
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

458
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Let's see.

459
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Is that power still?

460
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Let's see if it shows you.

461
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You want to show the camera?

462
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Or just tilt the camera?

463
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There it goes.

464
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We're trying to show, like, a thing here.

465
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Oh, there it goes.

466
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Cool.

467
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Begooom.

468
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isn't that cool oh that looks really weird dude that looks sick yeah it's not

469
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connected to a mining pool but it has all these stats on it

470
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there you go that's good that's good

471
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staggers are used to this kind of production quality

472
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hey cars having an off week well yeah I mean this is how we can really get them

473
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to unsubscribe, which is our goal after all.

474
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Cool story, man.

475
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I love it.

476
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I want to see more of this.

477
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The real one.

478
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Somebody make that book.

479
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We're going to jump into the AI stuff this week.

480
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Keon meta acquired Maltbook, the AI agent that went viral because of fake posts.

481
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Did you hear about this?

482
00:20:49,670 --> 00:20:51,390
I did see it on SAC News, yeah.

483
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What did you think?

484
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I thought, okay.

485
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Do you think Zuck is doing Scorch Earth Approach again,

486
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this time to Open Claw,

487
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or he's just going to release this all for free?

488
00:21:05,030 --> 00:21:06,770
Do I think he's going to release it for free?

489
00:21:06,770 --> 00:21:08,210
Do you think he's going to release everything for free,

490
00:21:08,290 --> 00:21:13,130
like he did with, didn't he do that last time with his,

491
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what was it called?

492
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What's the name of his LLM?

493
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What?

494
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Lama.

495
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Lama.

496
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Oh, Lama.

497
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Oh, Lama.

498
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What do you think is going to happen to you?

499
00:21:24,970 --> 00:21:27,370
What do I think is going to happen after he acquired this?

500
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I don't know.

501
00:21:28,690 --> 00:21:30,130
It's probably like an acqui-hire.

502
00:21:30,490 --> 00:21:33,630
Maybe he thinks the guy is on to something.

503
00:21:34,750 --> 00:21:38,490
And maybe he thinks the guy has particular insight to lead some kind of...

504
00:21:38,490 --> 00:21:43,710
I mean, you did say like two or three weeks ago, make stuff agent wants or agents.

505
00:21:43,810 --> 00:21:44,170
What did you say?

506
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Bots want.

507
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I said bots want.

508
00:21:47,070 --> 00:21:51,990
I've been seeing other people who are actually famous and respected say similar things.

509
00:21:52,210 --> 00:21:54,450
few weeks since then.

510
00:21:56,230 --> 00:21:58,610
I agree with that. I think the internet is going to

511
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be crawling with them.

512
00:22:00,350 --> 00:22:03,430
I don't think they're going to want these social spaces

513
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that are human readable.

514
00:22:07,110 --> 00:22:10,430
But I suspect they will want their own coordination

515
00:22:10,430 --> 00:22:11,450
points on the internet.

516
00:22:12,770 --> 00:22:15,670
So maybe that's what Zuck is interested in.

517
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I don't know what...

518
00:22:17,670 --> 00:22:21,190
I would guess he talked to the founder of Moldbook,

519
00:22:21,190 --> 00:22:24,350
found his point of view interesting,

520
00:22:24,570 --> 00:22:27,590
it's likely that it wasn't a total fluke

521
00:22:27,590 --> 00:22:29,630
that he created Maltbook and it became a success.

522
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:34,590
He probably had some motivation or insight around it,

523
00:22:34,590 --> 00:22:37,750
and Zuck acquired that insight.

524
00:22:38,710 --> 00:22:38,890
Yeah.

525
00:22:39,650 --> 00:22:40,890
It feels like it's really...

526
00:22:40,890 --> 00:22:43,250
We were talking about it last night at the Omni.

527
00:22:44,110 --> 00:22:48,970
I feel like there's just not a lot...

528
00:22:48,970 --> 00:22:51,370
I mean, you can get, I mean, I'll get into it more,

529
00:22:51,450 --> 00:22:53,510
but, like, I feel like the, like, with Albie,

530
00:22:53,550 --> 00:22:54,950
what they're doing with their stuff, but,

531
00:22:55,370 --> 00:22:56,950
and that gets you so far, but it,

532
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:59,350
I don't think everybody's caught up to allow, like,

533
00:22:59,370 --> 00:23:02,810
an agent to have lightning and then go achieve a task,

534
00:23:02,890 --> 00:23:04,530
like buying plane tickets or something.

535
00:23:05,290 --> 00:23:06,730
We were talking about that last night.

536
00:23:07,530 --> 00:23:09,910
I feel like, I feel like we're a little bit far away

537
00:23:09,910 --> 00:23:12,830
from all that, but it's good to see people like him,

538
00:23:14,070 --> 00:23:17,230
Zuck, like, try to at least make that future happen

539
00:23:17,230 --> 00:23:22,190
where you could, in theory, just have these bots go out and do things for humans.

540
00:23:24,730 --> 00:23:25,050
Yeah.

541
00:23:27,770 --> 00:23:28,130
Interesting.

542
00:23:28,890 --> 00:23:31,270
Anyway, I want to bring that up because I thought it was a fascinating thing.

543
00:23:31,370 --> 00:23:33,510
We got one from Optimism.

544
00:23:33,610 --> 00:23:36,910
He said, so does that mean I have to spend less sats on endless downzaps now?

545
00:23:37,210 --> 00:23:39,930
Maybe I should build a default comment that redirects bots there.

546
00:23:40,750 --> 00:23:41,290
What do you think, Kian?

547
00:23:42,010 --> 00:23:43,370
Does Optimism need to do that?

548
00:23:43,370 --> 00:23:44,490
What did you say? He whispered.

549
00:23:45,530 --> 00:23:46,910
Does Optimism need to do that?

550
00:23:47,230 --> 00:23:50,850
I think he was kind of kidding around.

551
00:23:51,250 --> 00:23:51,470
Okay.

552
00:23:52,610 --> 00:23:53,350
There you go.

553
00:23:54,270 --> 00:23:56,630
We're going to jump into Wumble's Picks,

554
00:23:56,790 --> 00:24:01,210
the number one thing that people tune into outside of the top cowboys every week.

555
00:24:01,770 --> 00:24:03,690
That's Wumble's Picks.

556
00:24:04,150 --> 00:24:08,430
This week on Wumble's Picks, Wumble wants us to cover this.

557
00:24:08,430 --> 00:24:11,130
How would you unwind the Social Security pension time bomb?

558
00:24:11,670 --> 00:24:13,990
Keon, I'd go to you.

559
00:24:14,490 --> 00:24:15,690
It's a simple task.

560
00:24:16,030 --> 00:24:16,970
You have to forgive me.

561
00:24:16,970 --> 00:24:19,350
I spent quite a bit of time on the cryptography post.

562
00:24:19,710 --> 00:24:20,770
We'll sort of be discussing.

563
00:24:21,770 --> 00:24:24,330
But how would I unwind it?

564
00:24:25,410 --> 00:24:27,850
I would, like, how do we stop it from happening?

565
00:24:28,690 --> 00:24:30,050
I don't really know.

566
00:24:30,050 --> 00:24:35,410
I mean, other than just telling young people they'll be losers

567
00:24:35,410 --> 00:24:37,270
and not get the money they've paid in,

568
00:24:37,350 --> 00:24:41,910
and then stopping maybe perhaps like unrolling it

569
00:24:41,910 --> 00:24:44,810
by stopping collection kind of progressively.

570
00:24:44,810 --> 00:24:50,230
younger and younger people contribute less and less knowing that they won't get it at the end.

571
00:24:50,870 --> 00:24:57,250
I don't know the solution to it. It just seems like the government made a promise that they're

572
00:24:57,250 --> 00:25:03,330
not going to keep. I don't think there's a way that the government can keep that promise.

573
00:25:04,670 --> 00:25:08,230
I don't think there's anything I can propose that allows the government to keep that promise.

574
00:25:09,390 --> 00:25:10,990
So I think they just have to break the promise.

575
00:25:10,990 --> 00:25:13,230
So Wombo asked two questions.

576
00:25:13,350 --> 00:25:15,450
He said, what option would you suggest for Social Security?

577
00:25:17,450 --> 00:25:18,930
What option would I suggest?

578
00:25:19,130 --> 00:25:19,710
For Social Security.

579
00:25:20,510 --> 00:25:24,350
From a government's perspective or from like a human being trying to secure that social?

580
00:25:24,350 --> 00:25:25,470
He really didn't clarify.

581
00:25:26,470 --> 00:25:29,130
He just said, what option would you suggest for Social Security?

582
00:25:30,610 --> 00:25:30,970
Okay.

583
00:25:34,010 --> 00:25:40,510
If you were doing it for yourself, I personally would recommend

584
00:25:40,510 --> 00:25:46,570
Saving your money in Bitcoin.

585
00:25:46,570 --> 00:25:50,590
Putting some percentage of your income into it so that you have a nest egg when you come

586
00:25:50,590 --> 00:25:51,590
of age.

587
00:25:51,590 --> 00:25:57,330
If you are somewhat skeptical on Bitcoin, diversifying into something else would probably

588
00:25:57,330 --> 00:25:58,330
make sense.

589
00:25:58,330 --> 00:25:59,330
Saving.

590
00:25:59,330 --> 00:26:05,450
Saving is a solution to what to do in the future when you don't have income or the future

591
00:26:05,450 --> 00:26:06,450
is uncertain.

592
00:26:06,450 --> 00:26:07,450
So that's what I would recommend.

593
00:26:07,450 --> 00:26:08,450
Do you have an answer?

594
00:26:08,450 --> 00:26:10,070
Let me reach to the next question.

595
00:26:10,070 --> 00:26:15,290
The next question was, what is the most realistic option the government will pick for Social Security, Keon?

596
00:26:17,030 --> 00:26:18,750
I feel like he's trolling you with this one.

597
00:26:19,370 --> 00:26:20,030
I don't think he is.

598
00:26:20,130 --> 00:26:27,330
I think if I would have spent more time looking at the comments and stuff, I'm sure stackers have some good suggestions for this.

599
00:26:27,330 --> 00:26:37,090
I would guess they just keep lying to people and keep the train rolling as long as they can until it actually implodes.

600
00:26:37,090 --> 00:26:44,170
and there's no other choice but for them to break the promise in a brutal, disappointing way.

601
00:26:44,630 --> 00:26:46,610
That's what governments tend to do.

602
00:26:47,050 --> 00:26:50,430
I suspect Social Security won't be much different.

603
00:26:50,910 --> 00:26:53,010
Maybe AGI will save them.

604
00:26:53,270 --> 00:26:53,790
I don't like that.

605
00:26:54,610 --> 00:26:55,510
And Jetix zaps.

606
00:26:55,950 --> 00:26:59,170
I think, I don't know the answers to these, Wimble.

607
00:26:59,310 --> 00:26:59,690
I'm sorry.

608
00:26:59,890 --> 00:27:02,350
I'm not an economist or a politician.

609
00:27:03,450 --> 00:27:05,010
But I will tell you what Carr would do.

610
00:27:05,010 --> 00:27:13,850
Carr would find a way to make it happen for the people that are of a certain age

611
00:27:13,850 --> 00:27:20,790
to make sure they spend those years of their lives in a happy place,

612
00:27:21,410 --> 00:27:26,770
whatever that may be, with their family, their own homes, a nursing home,

613
00:27:27,370 --> 00:27:28,030
all those different things.

614
00:27:28,170 --> 00:27:28,990
That's what I would suggest.

615
00:27:29,150 --> 00:27:29,950
How do you make that happen?

616
00:27:30,270 --> 00:27:32,990
I don't know, but we need to make sure that we take care of the elder.

617
00:27:32,990 --> 00:27:36,030
that's definitely a real thing

618
00:27:36,030 --> 00:27:36,850
that we should be doing

619
00:27:36,850 --> 00:27:39,410
it has to be fixed

620
00:27:39,410 --> 00:27:42,110
vote for me

621
00:27:42,110 --> 00:27:42,870
2026

622
00:27:42,870 --> 00:27:45,070
anyways

623
00:27:45,070 --> 00:27:46,050
good one

624
00:27:46,050 --> 00:27:47,430
that's from Wumble's Picks

625
00:27:47,430 --> 00:27:50,230
Wumble's Picks

626
00:27:50,230 --> 00:27:54,190
we're going to jump into Keon's post this week

627
00:27:54,190 --> 00:27:56,290
it's Bitcoin devs should be learning

628
00:27:56,290 --> 00:27:57,990
isogeny

629
00:27:58,830 --> 00:27:59,790
cryptography

630
00:27:59,790 --> 00:28:00,850
Keon

631
00:28:00,850 --> 00:28:02,950
what's this

632
00:28:03,950 --> 00:28:04,570
Oh, yeah.

633
00:28:04,850 --> 00:28:06,370
So Conduition shared this post.

634
00:28:06,990 --> 00:28:08,090
How do you say that ISO thing?

635
00:28:08,770 --> 00:28:08,990
What?

636
00:28:09,210 --> 00:28:10,210
How do you say this one?

637
00:28:10,390 --> 00:28:10,790
Isogeny.

638
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:11,470
Oh, okay.

639
00:28:11,570 --> 00:28:12,870
I think is how I would say it.

640
00:28:12,870 --> 00:28:13,810
How do you use that in a sentence?

641
00:28:15,490 --> 00:28:16,350
I'll use it in a sentence.

642
00:28:16,450 --> 00:28:18,690
Bitcoin devs should be learning isogeny cryptography.

643
00:28:18,910 --> 00:28:20,870
I was going to be like, oh, she's so isogeny.

644
00:28:22,050 --> 00:28:22,770
No, it's not.

645
00:28:23,310 --> 00:28:27,790
Yeah, I don't think it's like a term that's fairly well-scoped to pure math.

646
00:28:27,790 --> 00:28:33,770
I guess it's like a subjective morphism of algebraic groups within a finite kernel.

647
00:28:34,750 --> 00:28:34,950
Hmm.

648
00:28:36,130 --> 00:28:37,210
So it's like quantum.

649
00:28:38,210 --> 00:28:40,570
No, it's not like quantum.

650
00:28:42,410 --> 00:28:44,810
That's why people, that'll get people to unsubscribe.

651
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:48,490
Yeah, do you want to explain this first more?

652
00:28:48,790 --> 00:28:50,530
Just mention the word quantum with this thing.

653
00:28:50,650 --> 00:28:51,090
Oh, man.

654
00:28:51,310 --> 00:28:53,590
I'm going to get some heated comments now.

655
00:28:53,810 --> 00:28:54,530
I can already heat it.

656
00:28:54,570 --> 00:28:54,890
Feel it.

657
00:28:55,290 --> 00:28:55,890
I can feel it.

658
00:28:56,190 --> 00:28:57,410
Car, how dare you?

659
00:28:57,790 --> 00:29:02,170
say this is quantum. I'm literally joking around. All right, Kian, go for it.

660
00:29:02,390 --> 00:29:08,990
Yeah, so Conduition introduces us to isogenic, maybe they call it isogenic, but isogenic

661
00:29:08,990 --> 00:29:17,470
cryptography, which is, because it's thought to be post-quantum, or at least there aren't

662
00:29:17,470 --> 00:29:22,210
algorithms that are, yeah, it might even be provably post-quantum, I don't know.

663
00:29:22,210 --> 00:29:28,430
and it also maps on to Bitcoin fairly well

664
00:29:28,430 --> 00:29:31,710
as they demonstrate later down how it might work.

665
00:29:32,830 --> 00:29:34,650
But in summary,

666
00:29:35,790 --> 00:29:42,010
what you have is your public key is itself an elliptic curve

667
00:29:42,010 --> 00:29:46,510
and your private key is a mapping from a generator elliptic curve

668
00:29:46,510 --> 00:29:52,650
to that public key-like elliptic curve.

669
00:29:53,950 --> 00:29:55,170
So currently we have,

670
00:29:56,730 --> 00:29:58,450
currently your public key is a point

671
00:29:58,450 --> 00:29:59,850
and you use a generator point

672
00:29:59,850 --> 00:30:02,550
or your private,

673
00:30:02,830 --> 00:30:04,790
your public key is a point

674
00:30:04,790 --> 00:30:07,910
and your private key goes from that generator point

675
00:30:07,910 --> 00:30:09,210
to that public key.

676
00:30:10,150 --> 00:30:11,450
And this is kind of similar,

677
00:30:11,830 --> 00:30:13,410
it has like a similar shape,

678
00:30:13,670 --> 00:30:15,270
but it takes an elliptic curve

679
00:30:15,270 --> 00:30:18,090
and the private key maps it to another elliptic curve.

680
00:30:18,890 --> 00:30:20,490
And you can't go backwards.

681
00:30:20,910 --> 00:30:25,030
It's like one way, like how existing cryptography

682
00:30:25,030 --> 00:30:28,830
or how we expect public key cryptography to work.

683
00:30:30,730 --> 00:30:32,810
What else do I want to say about this?

684
00:30:33,530 --> 00:30:34,290
Sounds interesting.

685
00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:36,650
It's definitely interesting.

686
00:30:39,050 --> 00:30:43,770
Yeah, so if it is like quantum resistant,

687
00:30:43,770 --> 00:30:46,390
it suggests

688
00:30:46,390 --> 00:30:49,070
that we might be able to move to it in the future

689
00:30:49,070 --> 00:30:51,010
for Bitcoin because its representation

690
00:30:51,010 --> 00:30:53,050
is compact the signatures are

691
00:30:53,050 --> 00:30:54,810
like well sized

692
00:30:54,810 --> 00:30:56,070
and so are the

693
00:30:56,070 --> 00:31:01,190
so is the elliptic

694
00:31:01,190 --> 00:31:03,010
curve representation which is represented

695
00:31:03,010 --> 00:31:04,710
by this kernel of points I guess

696
00:31:04,710 --> 00:31:05,970
that allows you to describe

697
00:31:05,970 --> 00:31:08,850
an elliptic curve

698
00:31:08,850 --> 00:31:09,930
in a compact way

699
00:31:09,930 --> 00:31:17,030
yeah here's the sizes that you get from them they're fairly compact

700
00:31:17,030 --> 00:31:24,990
and they go into it's a it's like a great background I think on it like I felt even

701
00:31:24,990 --> 00:31:30,130
though I'm not cryptographer I'm not a cryptographer I'm not super familiar with

702
00:31:30,130 --> 00:31:36,910
most of this I felt like I was grokking the significance of this and I loved how

703
00:31:36,910 --> 00:31:42,550
familiar a lot of it was given that it is still using elliptic curves it's just like

704
00:31:42,550 --> 00:31:50,350
it's using it's not within an elliptic curve it's like using elliptic it's like a system

705
00:31:50,350 --> 00:31:58,050
built on top of elliptic curves um i'll say i'll say something um i think this if you're if you're

706
00:31:58,050 --> 00:32:04,850
watching this this should humble you a little bit because i got humbled right when i didn't know

707
00:32:04,850 --> 00:32:05,810
what this means.

708
00:32:06,510 --> 00:32:07,490
So you lost me right here.

709
00:32:07,510 --> 00:32:09,010
After this, I was like, okay, I'm not gonna.

710
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:10,670
This is where, like, you know,

711
00:32:10,810 --> 00:32:11,690
shout out to Vague, man.

712
00:32:11,930 --> 00:32:12,630
Stay in your lane.

713
00:32:13,030 --> 00:32:13,850
When it comes to this stuff,

714
00:32:13,910 --> 00:32:14,970
this stuff's, like, really hard.

715
00:32:15,350 --> 00:32:16,030
And the fact that, like,

716
00:32:16,070 --> 00:32:17,770
Bitcoin devs are, like, looking into it,

717
00:32:18,550 --> 00:32:21,390
I think it just goes to show that

718
00:32:21,390 --> 00:32:24,730
we got some really good people on our side

719
00:32:24,730 --> 00:32:27,790
trying to build Bitcoin into the future.

720
00:32:27,970 --> 00:32:37,540
So that what I will say It like sometimes this stuff is like you can just like run through chat I think I told you earlier I was like why don you just run it through chat GPT and get you like a thing And you like oh you can do that with this kind of stuff

721
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:42,160
Like you have to read through it and like really understand it and spend some time with it.

722
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:49,320
Well, I mean, chat GPT would be able to tell me all the words that might relate to this.

723
00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:52,740
And I might be able to say, I might be able to parrot what chat GPT says.

724
00:32:52,820 --> 00:32:56,380
But like understanding what is actually going on is kind of another question.

725
00:32:56,380 --> 00:33:02,620
And actually, this is written so well, it can't be compressed any further.

726
00:33:02,780 --> 00:33:09,060
There's nothing that the ChatGPT is going to be able to do to help me understand it better than reading this blog post and attempting to understand it well.

727
00:33:09,420 --> 00:33:22,900
But in short, the summary is that in an isogeny cryptography regime, the private key becomes these things called isogenies, which are these mappings between elliptic curves.

728
00:33:22,900 --> 00:33:32,600
and your public key is an elliptic curve that is built from a generator elliptic curve

729
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:36,200
and then mapped to with the isogyny.

730
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,300
And that's the rough stuff.

731
00:33:41,300 --> 00:33:46,440
And then there's a variety of, like how signatures are done are kind of interesting,

732
00:33:47,420 --> 00:33:52,720
where you generally what you want to do with a signature is communicate to people

733
00:33:52,720 --> 00:33:56,160
that you have a secret without revealing that secret to them.

734
00:33:57,420 --> 00:33:59,400
And how you do that is you,

735
00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,780
how you sign things in isogeny cryptography

736
00:34:02,780 --> 00:34:09,080
is you provide another isogeny

737
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,640
that isn't your private isogeny

738
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:15,940
that you could only have if you had the private isogeny.

739
00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:17,040
Stuff like that.

740
00:34:17,100 --> 00:34:20,220
So you can do all the stuff that we need

741
00:34:20,220 --> 00:34:22,180
for cryptography in general

742
00:34:22,180 --> 00:34:23,700
and public cryptography in general.

743
00:34:24,240 --> 00:34:25,960
But it's not vulnerable to

744
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,800
quantum.

745
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:28,780
Good post.

746
00:34:30,540 --> 00:34:31,700
Check out the comments.

747
00:34:32,060 --> 00:34:34,420
They're there. We're going to jump into

748
00:34:34,420 --> 00:34:37,820
Blood Poets Zine.

749
00:34:38,360 --> 00:34:40,180
It's Zine time. One girl with 50

750
00:34:40,180 --> 00:34:41,820
Zines. All in your worlds.

751
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,740
And your words. And your memes.

752
00:34:44,460 --> 00:34:46,340
It's like our new Zine. Number 50.

753
00:34:47,020 --> 00:34:48,180
I tried to make that rhyme. I couldn't.

754
00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:49,980
Looks like she

755
00:34:49,980 --> 00:34:51,140
made a mess on her printer.

756
00:34:55,580 --> 00:34:56,680
Is that what's going on there, Keon?

757
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,500
Can you give us some...

758
00:34:58,500 --> 00:34:59,500
Is that the one in the office?

759
00:35:00,380 --> 00:35:01,960
What? Is this the printer in the office?

760
00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:04,180
What office? Your office.

761
00:35:04,460 --> 00:35:05,960
Oh, I don't have a scanner. That's a scanner.

762
00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:06,460
Oh, okay.

763
00:35:08,140 --> 00:35:09,780
Alright, number 50. Check it out.

764
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:11,120
It's live.

765
00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:13,660
Oh, too many requests.

766
00:35:13,780 --> 00:35:15,740
Man, people are hitting up Keon up, I guess.

767
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:17,140
Purchase to print.

768
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:19,080
Boom. Right there.

769
00:35:20,020 --> 00:35:21,160
3,000 sats.

770
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:22,240
That's a meal deal.

771
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:25,160
Kian, you have any thoughts on this one?

772
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,500
Do I have thoughts on the zine that we produce every week?

773
00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:29,460
On this one.

774
00:35:29,500 --> 00:35:30,080
This is number 50.

775
00:35:30,540 --> 00:35:31,040
It's a big deal.

776
00:35:31,060 --> 00:35:31,880
Number 50.

777
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:39,040
Yeah, so I think she called it the golden edition, I guess, for anniversaries.

778
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:41,740
Gold is like the theme for 50th anniversaries.

779
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,320
This is like the 50th week-iversary, sort of, but the 50th edition-versary

780
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,260
because we don't, like, the weeks kind of break up.

781
00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,880
That's all I really have to say about it.

782
00:35:56,100 --> 00:36:00,040
Otherwise, we kind of covered a lot of the posts that are in it.

783
00:36:01,140 --> 00:36:02,340
Check it out, Steckers.

784
00:36:02,420 --> 00:36:03,640
That's the zine this week.

785
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,280
And Sagardews has zines every week.

786
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:07,340
That's a big thing.

787
00:36:07,420 --> 00:36:08,820
We're going to jump into my post this week.

788
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,920
So this week, Keon, I've been busy during the rodeo.

789
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:14,960
So we had the rodeo this weekend.

790
00:36:14,960 --> 00:36:24,140
And I was humbly surprised by how many people actually showed up because a lot of the talks that we had there were really deep, really technical.

791
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:31,080
Most meetups these days in Austin are like this deep, but these were like really deep.

792
00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:43,900
And I think for me, like I came away with so much stuff, I realized like there really is a need for in-person learning at a deep level.

793
00:36:43,900 --> 00:36:46,980
and classroom setting.

794
00:36:47,240 --> 00:36:48,640
I think those are the two big takeaways.

795
00:36:50,380 --> 00:36:52,060
The most surprising thing, I told you this,

796
00:36:52,140 --> 00:36:54,800
I was really shocked by how many people knew who PubLab was.

797
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,560
I didn't realize a lot of people knew who PubLab was.

798
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,500
So that was really eye-opening,

799
00:37:02,620 --> 00:37:04,840
just hearing it from developers that we don't know

800
00:37:04,840 --> 00:37:06,520
outside of our own ecosystem.

801
00:37:07,460 --> 00:37:08,760
We had some really good talks,

802
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,620
like a really sobering talk from Jordy.

803
00:37:10,620 --> 00:37:13,920
and he was talking about how

804
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,920
a lot of what we're seeing right now

805
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,280
hasn't actually been built out.

806
00:37:18,380 --> 00:37:19,920
We'll post a lot of these videos next week.

807
00:37:21,820 --> 00:37:24,740
And then we had really another awesome talk

808
00:37:24,740 --> 00:37:27,040
from Jonas and Satsy from Chinco Labs

809
00:37:27,040 --> 00:37:29,580
who were also talking about some,

810
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:33,980
just like the slop that they're having to deal with

811
00:37:33,980 --> 00:37:37,480
and with the pull requests on Bitcoin and stuff.

812
00:37:37,740 --> 00:37:39,600
And it was really good.

813
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:45,520
It felt like the Bitcoin day was on the second day, but the first day was like very just normal AI stuff.

814
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:47,180
And we had some good talks there, too.

815
00:37:47,780 --> 00:37:55,840
There was a guy named Colin that was there that like really talked to like the founders and the entrepreneurs in the room about how to scale your business with AI.

816
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,720
And so it was a good day.

817
00:37:58,980 --> 00:38:02,120
There's a lot of people that I would have never suspected being in the room.

818
00:38:04,060 --> 00:38:06,260
So, yeah, just wanted to share that.

819
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:14,620
Kian, you bought a ticket, but you didn't go.

820
00:38:15,620 --> 00:38:19,220
Yeah, I was going to go, and then I didn't know where it kind of was,

821
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:23,180
and it was kind of far, and then I released something,

822
00:38:23,340 --> 00:38:27,060
and then I had to monitor it, and then, yeah, I didn't go.

823
00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,980
But, you know, it's a long shot, but I wanted to go,

824
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:33,420
which is a lot, which is saying a lot.

825
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:38,200
See, Stackers, this is what I deal with every week.

826
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,280
the other thing I wanted to bring up, I'm just kidding,

827
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:41,840
the other thing I wanted to bring up was

828
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,160
Pleb TV. So we did

829
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:46,400
the AI Startup Rodeo on Tuesday

830
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,160
and Wednesday. And then on Thursday

831
00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,960
we went to Capital Factory and we

832
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:52,180
launched a new version of Pleb TV.

833
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:54,000
And so

834
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,080
I showed it here. But

835
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:58,200
this one we were like getting

836
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,100
actual people that were talking about it.

837
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:02,120
We had like a little table and stuff and

838
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,100
the guys were there with us and

839
00:39:04,100 --> 00:39:06,360
dude, I was really shocked. I told

840
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:08,140
you like, there's a lot of things we need to fix

841
00:39:08,140 --> 00:39:10,260
now. Like, Darren just sent me a message

842
00:39:10,260 --> 00:39:11,780
like, all the stuff we need to fix, but

843
00:39:11,780 --> 00:39:14,140
I was really shocked by how many people actually

844
00:39:14,140 --> 00:39:15,700
want to get paid.

845
00:39:16,220 --> 00:39:17,520
Like, they just want to get paid.

846
00:39:18,140 --> 00:39:20,040
Creators just want to get paid. Just get the fuck

847
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,160
out of the way. Pay them. That's all they want.

848
00:39:22,900 --> 00:39:24,120
It was just shocking

849
00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,260
how many people just want something like this.

850
00:39:27,260 --> 00:39:27,960
Like, they don't want to

851
00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:29,560
give 30% to Patreon.

852
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:32,100
They don't want to pay, you know, $50 every

853
00:39:32,100 --> 00:39:33,880
month. They just want to get paid.

854
00:39:34,900 --> 00:39:35,940
And so

855
00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:37,460
it was really cool.

856
00:39:38,140 --> 00:39:44,200
um sharing this and uh yeah every like nick so nick's workshop was hooking everybody's in

857
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:48,080
with this because they kept seeing the bitcoin payments and then they would be like they would

858
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:53,320
stop and they're like what's this and then we would jump in and uh it was really cool man so

859
00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:57,180
we're gonna we're gonna update a lot of stuff but i want to share this with the stackers stackers if

860
00:39:57,180 --> 00:40:04,600
you haven't got a membership you probably should right now because um um i think it's gonna i think

861
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:05,420
I don't know.

862
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:15,700
I was just really bullish on the fact that people who are not in our little bubble key on here in Austin were genuinely excited about it.

863
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,980
And then we would say, I would go like, I'd be like, yeah, you can do Bitcoin too.

864
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:24,100
We non-custodially and you can get paid this way.

865
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:25,360
And like, really?

866
00:40:25,720 --> 00:40:26,620
Like, wow.

867
00:40:28,160 --> 00:40:28,920
That was cool.

868
00:40:29,340 --> 00:40:31,500
It was just like a slight little thing.

869
00:40:31,980 --> 00:40:32,960
It was just like an add-on.

870
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:34,880
It was just like, oh, yeah, you can do Bitcoin, too.

871
00:40:35,060 --> 00:40:36,080
And we were, like, sneaking it in.

872
00:40:36,980 --> 00:40:37,700
So that was cool.

873
00:40:37,820 --> 00:40:41,340
And then the other thing, they were like, we had, like, a few people ask us about the word pleb.

874
00:40:41,400 --> 00:40:42,300
They were like, why is it called pleb?

875
00:40:42,860 --> 00:40:45,540
Like, oh, yeah, and, you know, just like the common man, grassroots.

876
00:40:47,460 --> 00:40:49,660
So, anyways.

877
00:40:50,380 --> 00:40:51,000
Bringing it back.

878
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:51,820
Bringing it back.

879
00:40:52,340 --> 00:40:53,260
What do you think about this, Kim?

880
00:40:54,100 --> 00:40:58,300
When are you going to get your SNL pleb TV?

881
00:40:58,300 --> 00:40:59,360
Well, shouldn't you be getting it?

882
00:40:59,420 --> 00:41:00,700
That's my question to you.

883
00:41:00,700 --> 00:41:02,700
You keep trying to...

884
00:41:02,700 --> 00:41:03,880
I thought this was a...

885
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:05,580
Hey, it's only $1.99.

886
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:07,280
We should have split the cost.

887
00:41:08,500 --> 00:41:10,280
We can take it out of your pay if you want.

888
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,560
I don't...

889
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:14,380
Or our future earnings on sponsorships.

890
00:41:14,380 --> 00:41:15,700
We can...

891
00:41:15,700 --> 00:41:17,500
We'll talk about it after the show.

892
00:41:17,580 --> 00:41:18,720
Stackers, be on the lookout.

893
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:21,080
But you should definitely sign up

894
00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:24,000
because I think right now we're going to...

895
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,680
There's some people we're going to talk to to onboard them.

896
00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:27,840
A lot of cool ideas, dude.

897
00:41:27,840 --> 00:41:29,620
I was telling you, getting the table

898
00:41:29,620 --> 00:41:36,720
at like a normie event and like being the only bitcoin hot chick there is like an awesome place

899
00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:41,300
to be like it's just being the hot chick do you feel like you're the hot chick or more like didn't

900
00:41:41,300 --> 00:41:45,940
we feel like the hot chick in the room yesterday when we were in there i mean i was the hot chick

901
00:41:45,940 --> 00:41:54,720
austin's a weird place that's what he said anyway so i think i think overall like we got pretty

902
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:55,340
women here.

903
00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:56,980
Yeah.

904
00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:58,220
Anyway, I just wanted to share that.

905
00:41:58,620 --> 00:41:59,520
A lot of cool stuff coming.

906
00:41:59,580 --> 00:42:00,720
We're going to do a lot of cool updates.

907
00:42:01,640 --> 00:42:03,660
And shout out to Darren for coming through.

908
00:42:03,980 --> 00:42:05,340
And even he was like shocked.

909
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:06,960
He's like, so this is a real thing?

910
00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:07,900
And I was like, yes, dude.

911
00:42:08,240 --> 00:42:09,220
I've been telling you.

912
00:42:09,700 --> 00:42:10,400
It's a real thing.

913
00:42:10,820 --> 00:42:13,280
Anyways, so I wanted to share that because I thought that was cool.

914
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:16,320
But overall, man, it was a really good week.

915
00:42:17,140 --> 00:42:19,800
Really good week in Austin for Bitcoin.

916
00:42:21,060 --> 00:42:21,200
Yeah.

917
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,260
Topher, you got any thoughts?

918
00:42:24,220 --> 00:42:25,080
What, on Pled TV?

919
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:26,560
Just everything for the week.

920
00:42:29,820 --> 00:42:30,960
Yeah, it has been a good week.

921
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:32,120
Here, give him the mic.

922
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:33,120
There you go.

923
00:42:33,300 --> 00:42:34,760
Are we talking about South By in general?

924
00:42:34,780 --> 00:42:36,180
Just Bitcoin and South By.

925
00:42:36,180 --> 00:42:39,940
I was telling Teresa earlier, we had Bitcoin on 6th Street.

926
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:41,400
We had Bitcoin on the east side.

927
00:42:41,500 --> 00:42:42,680
We had Bitcoin at Capital Factory.

928
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,500
Next year, we'll probably have Bitcoin up north.

929
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,600
It's going to be...

930
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:51,580
Bitcoin is blanketing the city now, which is kind of cool, man.

931
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:52,980
Yeah.

932
00:42:53,260 --> 00:42:57,740
that's how we're spreading our seed yeah we're like an invasive species now yeah

933
00:42:57,740 --> 00:43:07,380
it's kind of cool price is up vibes are high yeah there's a lot of tech people moving to austin

934
00:43:07,380 --> 00:43:13,700
austin's like the tech scene here is growing the south by scene's way more there's way more people

935
00:43:13,700 --> 00:43:20,520
this year than there ever been for south by right um in the past three years i would say i don't

936
00:43:20,520 --> 00:43:27,520
know i so i haven't ventured out as much as i did the previous years but uh it's weird because

937
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:32,600
like they tore down the convention center yeah so we don't have that but they also have all these

938
00:43:32,600 --> 00:43:37,000
like new pop-ups like there did you see the pop-up on fifth street where they shut down

939
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,100
part of fifth street and they just put up all these weird like burger stands and weird things

940
00:43:42,100 --> 00:43:48,060
over there that you haven't done that in a long time yeah like normally they don't do that for

941
00:43:48,060 --> 00:43:52,880
south by they used to do that they used to have like pop-ups for like bands to play in the middle

942
00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:58,480
of the street like good bands playing yeah for the uh how was it called it was acorn festival

943
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:02,380
or something i forget what it's called but yeah oh pecan festival yeah one of the nuts

944
00:44:02,380 --> 00:44:09,540
but uh yeah they would do that but not really for south by yeah but this year it's very different

945
00:44:09,540 --> 00:44:16,500
yeah traffic's horrifying but yeah but it's a lot of fun like there's a lot of fun stuff going on

946
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:17,200
when you're on foot.

947
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:17,760
Yeah.

948
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:18,780
Yeah, so it's cool.

949
00:44:19,180 --> 00:44:21,180
Yeah, and then the Capital Factory's got, like,

950
00:44:21,380 --> 00:44:24,880
it seems like they've absorbed a lot of the stuff

951
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:26,520
that was happening at the convention center.

952
00:44:26,600 --> 00:44:27,560
Yeah, they did, right?

953
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,180
Because I saw a lot of people with South by Badgers over there.

954
00:44:31,540 --> 00:44:31,900
Yeah.

955
00:44:32,380 --> 00:44:34,140
Yeah, they're crawling all over the place.

956
00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:34,480
Yeah.

957
00:44:35,220 --> 00:44:36,220
Yeah, it's really cool.

958
00:44:36,220 --> 00:44:37,380
Yeah, it was crazy.

959
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:41,880
It's kind of just spread out between the big hotels downtown,

960
00:44:42,080 --> 00:44:44,180
like Hilton and some of these other ones.

961
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:44,940
Small conference centers.

962
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:48,520
But it feels bigger this year for some reason than it did last year.

963
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:52,640
Can somebody grab me a beer?

964
00:44:53,740 --> 00:44:54,740
Oh, thank you, thank you.

965
00:44:55,740 --> 00:44:56,140
Anyways.

966
00:44:57,680 --> 00:44:58,600
It's been a good time.

967
00:44:58,700 --> 00:44:59,980
It's been a good time this week, guys.

968
00:45:01,380 --> 00:45:01,780
Stackers.

969
00:45:02,180 --> 00:45:02,680
It's been a good time.

970
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:05,660
We're doing some meta.

971
00:45:05,780 --> 00:45:06,920
Keo, what happened to meta this week?

972
00:45:07,380 --> 00:45:10,160
Yeah, we released the WYSIWYG editor finally.

973
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,320
We've been teasing it for a while.

974
00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:20,040
and now you can use an editor where what you see is what you get in it

975
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,340
rather than typing markdown.

976
00:45:24,340 --> 00:45:24,740
Awesome.

977
00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:25,280
Hi.

978
00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:28,400
Later, guys.

979
00:45:29,320 --> 00:45:29,800
Sayonara.

980
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:33,760
I guess everyone's going somewhere.

981
00:45:35,560 --> 00:45:36,000
Cool.

982
00:45:36,240 --> 00:45:38,680
Yeah, I tried using the editor today, but I just couldn't.

983
00:45:38,680 --> 00:45:42,420
I feel like a lot of things already just kind of work.

984
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:45,660
But I'm probably not the right person to use it.

985
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:49,060
But yeah, it works.

986
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,040
Yeah, see right there?

987
00:45:52,900 --> 00:45:53,500
I don't know if they can see it.

988
00:45:53,500 --> 00:45:55,140
That's the markdown part still.

989
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,880
You have to go into the compose.

990
00:45:57,380 --> 00:45:59,940
Basically what was the preview before is now editable.

991
00:46:00,340 --> 00:46:01,340
Yeah, there it goes there.

992
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:02,180
Boom.

993
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:05,600
Cool stuff.

994
00:46:07,340 --> 00:46:08,100
Cool stuff.

995
00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:14,940
yeah socks keep it going we're gonna jump into

996
00:46:14,940 --> 00:46:22,200
the comments or should we save that for the top cowboy let's do the top cowboys first

997
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:32,420
just because like you never know top cowboys this week was from here we go here we go boom

998
00:46:33,020 --> 00:46:36,840
Top Cowboys, most popular segment in Bitcoin, Keon.

999
00:46:38,040 --> 00:46:38,540
Giddy on up?

1000
00:46:39,580 --> 00:46:40,320
Giddy on up.

1001
00:46:40,580 --> 00:46:42,740
Yeah, it doesn't look like it's, I don't think it's changed.

1002
00:46:42,820 --> 00:46:44,400
At least the top 10 hasn't changed much.

1003
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:50,020
I would guess probably the top 20 maybe had one change in it.

1004
00:46:50,100 --> 00:46:53,920
That's usually how it goes, but that's it.

1005
00:46:54,700 --> 00:46:56,300
Those are the top Cowboys.

1006
00:46:57,540 --> 00:46:58,320
Anything else?

1007
00:47:00,940 --> 00:47:01,540
That's it.

1008
00:47:01,540 --> 00:47:03,500
So they don't show the shooters anymore, huh?

1009
00:47:04,820 --> 00:47:06,220
Now we discussed that last week.

1010
00:47:06,700 --> 00:47:10,320
The only way you can see the other badges other than the cowboy hat

1011
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:11,940
is going to someone's profile page.

1012
00:47:12,640 --> 00:47:13,860
Let's just go to this one.

1013
00:47:14,780 --> 00:47:15,740
Oh, there you go.

1014
00:47:15,740 --> 00:47:16,580
There you go.

1015
00:47:16,680 --> 00:47:20,040
Do you think that has solved everybody from downzapping?

1016
00:47:20,660 --> 00:47:22,080
That wasn't the goal of that.

1017
00:47:22,240 --> 00:47:23,940
As we discussed last week on the podcast,

1018
00:47:24,220 --> 00:47:27,680
it was because it was cluttering up the page

1019
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,360
and having three badges next to everyone's name.

1020
00:47:31,540 --> 00:47:36,880
So people are down-tapping or no?

1021
00:47:37,700 --> 00:47:39,040
Still, is there still fighting kind of?

1022
00:47:39,540 --> 00:47:41,580
Are people still down-tapping on Stacker News?

1023
00:47:42,040 --> 00:47:45,940
Yes, it is a feature that lots of people use on Stacker News

1024
00:47:45,940 --> 00:47:48,440
to express dislike of content.

1025
00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:49,300
Wow.

1026
00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:51,600
And it remains...

1027
00:47:51,600 --> 00:47:53,380
Does there seem to be like a certain kind of content

1028
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:54,640
that people hate on Stacker News?

1029
00:47:55,960 --> 00:47:57,500
Not as far as I can tell.

1030
00:47:57,500 --> 00:48:01,300
I mean, it varies as much as human beings dislike information.

1031
00:48:01,540 --> 00:48:05,580
and on stacker news, they're human beings, and there's information,

1032
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,860
and they get to express their dislike through downzaps.

1033
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:15,520
And so you have a similar level of variance there.

1034
00:48:17,780 --> 00:48:18,380
Okay.

1035
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:22,940
I can tell you you don't want to talk about it, but all right.

1036
00:48:23,300 --> 00:48:24,760
I've talked about it.

1037
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:26,620
Let's get on to the next thing.

1038
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,520
We're going to jump into the comments.

1039
00:48:28,780 --> 00:48:30,080
There's some spicy comments this week.

1040
00:48:30,080 --> 00:48:34,080
somebody was commenting on the what's driving Bitcoin business and merchants

1041
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:38,120
new creation says here before hundred K again great review of the report

1042
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,100
gentlemen thank you new creations it's always good to hear people enjoy comes

1043
00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:55,390
out of our mouths and then there a u run over 2058 he says spam or show because we talking about about Pip 110 yeah I feel like that one wasn my pick or your pick it was just

1044
00:48:55,390 --> 00:48:56,450
in the top three

1045
00:48:56,450 --> 00:48:56,750
so

1046
00:48:56,750 --> 00:48:59,550
if you've never

1047
00:48:59,550 --> 00:49:00,230
watched the show

1048
00:49:00,230 --> 00:49:00,550
before

1049
00:49:00,550 --> 00:49:01,070
U.S.

1050
00:49:01,070 --> 00:49:01,370
Sorobro

1051
00:49:01,370 --> 00:49:01,930
Snombre

1052
00:49:01,930 --> 00:49:02,690
2058

1053
00:49:02,690 --> 00:49:04,210
we cover the top

1054
00:49:04,210 --> 00:49:04,870
three because we

1055
00:49:04,870 --> 00:49:05,290
have to

1056
00:49:05,290 --> 00:49:05,930
I think I was

1057
00:49:05,930 --> 00:49:06,490
saying things that

1058
00:49:06,490 --> 00:49:06,910
were kind of

1059
00:49:06,910 --> 00:49:07,930
like not

1060
00:49:07,930 --> 00:49:09,150
super positive

1061
00:49:09,150 --> 00:49:10,330
about at least

1062
00:49:10,330 --> 00:49:11,850
Melvin's

1063
00:49:11,850 --> 00:49:12,990
portrayal

1064
00:49:12,990 --> 00:49:13,450
of

1065
00:49:13,450 --> 00:49:17,510
BIP 110. I think it was wrong on a number of points.

1066
00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:23,310
And I don't know. It tends to be, if you say anything bad about BIP 110 or not,

1067
00:49:24,070 --> 00:49:27,610
you're now pro-spam. You're a child

1068
00:49:27,610 --> 00:49:33,230
pornographer. You're a hosting, you want to be a hosting service for child porn.

1069
00:49:33,850 --> 00:49:36,230
That's kind of the conclusion

1070
00:49:36,230 --> 00:49:42,110
that folks on that side come to. I don't get it, but

1071
00:49:42,110 --> 00:49:45,250
if it helps them get what they want out of lives.

1072
00:49:45,530 --> 00:49:47,030
I thought we were just reporting the news, weren't we?

1073
00:49:47,870 --> 00:49:48,390
Stacker News?

1074
00:49:48,510 --> 00:49:50,910
I don't think anyone just reports the news.

1075
00:49:51,130 --> 00:49:52,990
But I thought we were just reporting the news, though.

1076
00:49:53,790 --> 00:49:56,790
I don't remember saying anything during that thing.

1077
00:49:57,390 --> 00:49:58,710
I think I kept quiet during that one.

1078
00:49:59,750 --> 00:50:02,910
I mean, yeah, I think you tend to do a pretty good job of...

1079
00:50:02,910 --> 00:50:03,650
Staying in my lane.

1080
00:50:03,670 --> 00:50:04,610
Like, that's cool.

1081
00:50:04,970 --> 00:50:05,330
Interesting.

1082
00:50:06,350 --> 00:50:07,590
Sometimes you got to do that, man.

1083
00:50:08,490 --> 00:50:08,790
Yeah.

1084
00:50:08,790 --> 00:50:09,710
It's a hot topic.

1085
00:50:10,350 --> 00:50:11,990
Because I don't know how it's going to play out, man.

1086
00:50:12,110 --> 00:50:19,670
got to end up on the right side stay in the middle for now you don't know stay in your lane

1087
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:25,610
stay in your lane um the other one was jack dorsey fires 4 000 employees that one really took off

1088
00:50:25,610 --> 00:50:31,250
people would absolutely challenge an economic reason as such an out of touch take was that

1089
00:50:31,250 --> 00:50:36,390
directed at me or you that was directed at me we covered this last week i think as well no seven

1090
00:50:36,390 --> 00:50:41,610
days ago we didn't definitely cover this i believe it was at the end because i commented on it but

1091
00:50:41,610 --> 00:50:46,990
So a lot of people agree with what I was telling you on the show last week.

1092
00:50:48,410 --> 00:50:50,170
Or two weeks ago, whatever it was.

1093
00:50:54,310 --> 00:50:56,390
Did you talk to him down here?

1094
00:50:56,450 --> 00:50:57,570
It looks like you went into a thing.

1095
00:50:58,090 --> 00:51:00,450
Yes, I responded to him, and I apologize.

1096
00:51:01,990 --> 00:51:04,890
So for the stackers that are home, that are watching this,

1097
00:51:05,230 --> 00:51:06,410
Keon responds to all the comments.

1098
00:51:06,530 --> 00:51:07,030
Car doesn't.

1099
00:51:08,410 --> 00:51:10,550
I don't respond to all of them, but I do respond.

1100
00:51:10,550 --> 00:51:12,990
Yeah, Keon's the one responding to him, not Carr.

1101
00:51:13,110 --> 00:51:19,430
Especially when they're like kind of, when I feel like it's maybe my fault that they're responding and feel a certain way.

1102
00:51:19,910 --> 00:51:21,310
And I feel like I might be able to help them.

1103
00:51:21,610 --> 00:51:25,810
If I respond, I'll respond with like my Thriller X one.

1104
00:51:26,490 --> 00:51:28,150
But this Keon's going to respond.

1105
00:51:30,510 --> 00:51:31,650
Super spicy, man.

1106
00:51:31,770 --> 00:51:33,430
You're in the YouTube comments.

1107
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:34,370
Is it an interesting place to be?

1108
00:51:36,010 --> 00:51:37,190
It's actually okay.

1109
00:51:37,190 --> 00:51:39,510
it's not too bad

1110
00:51:39,510 --> 00:51:40,670
on the YouTube comments

1111
00:51:40,670 --> 00:51:41,730
they can't down zap you here

1112
00:51:41,730 --> 00:51:43,090
it's true

1113
00:51:43,090 --> 00:51:45,850
yeah we can probably

1114
00:51:45,850 --> 00:51:46,650
get another 10 minutes

1115
00:51:46,650 --> 00:51:48,350
where are you going?

1116
00:51:50,670 --> 00:51:51,210
yeah yeah

1117
00:51:51,210 --> 00:51:52,550
yeah I'll wait for you

1118
00:51:52,550 --> 00:51:53,610
alright cool

1119
00:51:53,610 --> 00:51:56,610
then we got fountain comments

1120
00:51:56,610 --> 00:51:57,810
undisciplined said

1121
00:51:57,810 --> 00:51:59,330
I think the PPQ guy's argument

1122
00:51:59,330 --> 00:52:00,210
for benefiting Bitcoin

1123
00:52:00,210 --> 00:52:01,450
is that he pays his employees

1124
00:52:01,450 --> 00:52:01,830
in Bitcoin

1125
00:52:01,830 --> 00:52:03,010
which he couldn't afford

1126
00:52:03,010 --> 00:52:04,090
if not for paying

1127
00:52:04,090 --> 00:52:05,390
in poop coins

1128
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:06,730
and that he offers a service

1129
00:52:06,730 --> 00:52:08,370
that can be paid for in Bitcoin.

1130
00:52:08,850 --> 00:52:09,790
This is from last week's episode.

1131
00:52:09,970 --> 00:52:10,650
Keon, what do you think?

1132
00:52:11,530 --> 00:52:12,410
Yeah, I think that is.

1133
00:52:12,590 --> 00:52:15,630
I mean, it's good that he's paying his employees in Bitcoin.

1134
00:52:16,370 --> 00:52:18,270
And I think it's good that he accepts Bitcoin.

1135
00:52:18,270 --> 00:52:23,090
The question is whether, you know, how we feel.

1136
00:52:23,170 --> 00:52:26,090
I don't want to say anything about how someone else does business.

1137
00:52:26,290 --> 00:52:29,850
I just, but if that's how they want to do business,

1138
00:52:29,970 --> 00:52:31,410
they can do business that way.

1139
00:52:31,750 --> 00:52:34,390
I was mostly speaking from my own point of view

1140
00:52:34,390 --> 00:52:38,270
and that I don't feel like it's a decision I would make,

1141
00:52:38,990 --> 00:52:40,930
which is kind of like someone saying they're vegetarian.

1142
00:52:42,010 --> 00:52:45,810
If you want to eat meat, generally go ahead and do it.

1143
00:52:48,330 --> 00:52:52,250
But I think there is a reason to maybe not

1144
00:52:52,250 --> 00:52:59,210
accept these other things for your services.

1145
00:53:01,350 --> 00:53:02,990
I don't know, it's somewhat untasteful to me,

1146
00:53:03,110 --> 00:53:03,950
and it's maybe subjective,

1147
00:53:03,950 --> 00:53:05,150
and that is my point of view.

1148
00:53:05,950 --> 00:53:09,450
I mean, I'm a founder.

1149
00:53:09,650 --> 00:53:10,190
I'm an entrepreneur.

1150
00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:12,450
I deal with the stresses that comes with that.

1151
00:53:13,150 --> 00:53:15,010
I'm not going to tell anybody how to run their own business

1152
00:53:15,010 --> 00:53:17,590
because it's their business.

1153
00:53:18,290 --> 00:53:20,210
And at the end of the day,

1154
00:53:20,210 --> 00:53:21,670
they're the ones that have to make those decisions

1155
00:53:21,670 --> 00:53:24,870
and live and die by your decisions.

1156
00:53:25,170 --> 00:53:27,950
I've made decisions with blah, blah,

1157
00:53:28,070 --> 00:53:29,530
that people disagree with.

1158
00:53:30,870 --> 00:53:33,450
Living and dying by those decisions as we speak.

1159
00:53:33,950 --> 00:53:37,910
But I think everybody has to do that who runs their own business.

1160
00:53:38,430 --> 00:53:40,350
And if you don't like it, make your own business.

1161
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:47,770
If you hate the fact that this guy is a PPQ, make an alternative version.

1162
00:53:48,330 --> 00:53:49,690
Show them that you can do it a different way.

1163
00:53:49,910 --> 00:53:50,610
That's what I would say.

1164
00:53:54,630 --> 00:53:55,750
Competitions out there.

1165
00:53:55,750 --> 00:53:57,430
So make a PPQ.

1166
00:53:57,930 --> 00:53:58,610
Prove them wrong.

1167
00:54:00,870 --> 00:54:03,310
I would imagine it's too hard to do something like that.

1168
00:54:03,950 --> 00:54:05,230
I don't know.

1169
00:54:05,510 --> 00:54:06,570
What do you think about technology?

1170
00:54:07,350 --> 00:54:08,530
What do I think about technology?

1171
00:54:08,630 --> 00:54:10,630
What do you think about the PPQ technology?

1172
00:54:11,230 --> 00:54:17,210
Well, as far as I understand, it's just wrapping a bunch of model providers

1173
00:54:17,210 --> 00:54:26,170
with a paper query interface where you can kind of like buy a gift card for it

1174
00:54:26,170 --> 00:54:29,730
and not dox yourself and still get access to these models,

1175
00:54:30,030 --> 00:54:31,950
which I think is an interesting service.

1176
00:54:31,950 --> 00:54:34,990
I think it makes sense as a service

1177
00:54:34,990 --> 00:54:36,790
but perhaps it's not enough of a service

1178
00:54:36,790 --> 00:54:38,950
to survive

1179
00:54:38,950 --> 00:54:41,090
on only limiting yourself

1180
00:54:41,090 --> 00:54:42,390
to accepting one currency

1181
00:54:42,390 --> 00:54:43,190
which is Bitcoin

1182
00:54:43,190 --> 00:54:45,950
and that makes sense to me

1183
00:54:45,950 --> 00:54:47,830
that maybe

1184
00:54:47,830 --> 00:54:51,030
if you are just sort of a proxy like this

1185
00:54:51,030 --> 00:54:53,170
maybe you have to

1186
00:54:53,170 --> 00:54:55,070
try to get as many customers coming through your

1187
00:54:55,070 --> 00:54:57,010
proxy as possible and that involves

1188
00:54:57,010 --> 00:54:58,510
catering to shitcoiners

1189
00:54:58,510 --> 00:54:59,070
yep

1190
00:54:59,070 --> 00:55:06,790
um the next one is yeah it was fun it's funny that you bring that up because like yesterday

1191
00:55:06,790 --> 00:55:10,570
we're doing the plug tv stuff and then there's like some lady from the film festival stuff and

1192
00:55:10,570 --> 00:55:15,950
we're talking through it and one of the things i realized was like she was more interested in

1193
00:55:15,950 --> 00:55:22,570
bitcoin once i told her that you keep 100 of those profits whether i mean we have stripe

1194
00:55:22,570 --> 00:55:25,970
integration but that's gonna they're gonna take like two or three percent whatever that thing is

1195
00:55:25,970 --> 00:55:34,010
and if you're selling like a film for you know 30 50 dollars whatever it costs like that's gonna

1196
00:55:34,010 --> 00:55:38,670
that's gonna be a big thing you know that's a huge it's like 10 bucks or five bucks or three

1197
00:55:38,670 --> 00:55:45,430
four dollars so i've come to realize that like when you explain to people normal people you keep

1198
00:55:45,430 --> 00:55:51,650
100 without any like thing taken away people are more prone to take bitcoin

1199
00:55:51,650 --> 00:55:57,810
so yeah that's what a lot of people would say about how they pitch merchants because that

1200
00:55:57,810 --> 00:56:04,170
applies to anyone accepting credit cards like in a physical store like if you use square and i love

1201
00:56:04,170 --> 00:56:09,750
square we use square but square takes like two three four percent whatever that percentage is

1202
00:56:09,750 --> 00:56:17,330
on every cell so that sucks encourage people to pay in bitcoin right but that's what i would say

1203
00:56:17,330 --> 00:56:26,570
It's just like not a lot of people understand that these little small little margins in a business unit go a long way.

1204
00:56:26,770 --> 00:56:30,910
They add up over a course of like a 12-year span or 12-month span.

1205
00:56:32,830 --> 00:56:45,230
Anyways, yeah, I think that was such a fascinating post last week.

1206
00:56:45,230 --> 00:56:48,630
I think that's just not talked about a lot

1207
00:56:48,630 --> 00:56:49,810
on both sides.

1208
00:56:50,290 --> 00:56:52,330
I don't think we talk about it as Bitcoiners enough

1209
00:56:52,330 --> 00:56:54,750
and people like in this guy's situation

1210
00:56:54,750 --> 00:56:55,550
talks about it enough.

1211
00:56:57,070 --> 00:56:57,570
Do you know what I mean?

1212
00:56:58,670 --> 00:57:00,510
You're talking about the PPQ stuff?

1213
00:57:00,770 --> 00:57:02,410
Yeah, his whole post about it

1214
00:57:02,410 --> 00:57:03,210
and why he doesn't.

1215
00:57:04,390 --> 00:57:04,790
Yeah.

1216
00:57:05,530 --> 00:57:07,770
I think that's fine.

1217
00:57:07,770 --> 00:57:10,870
I think him grouping himself

1218
00:57:10,870 --> 00:57:11,770
is like a...

1219
00:57:13,310 --> 00:57:14,690
I think the disconnect is really

1220
00:57:14,690 --> 00:57:17,330
that he's trying to appeal to someone like DarthCoin

1221
00:57:17,330 --> 00:57:19,050
who's interested in Bitcoin,

1222
00:57:19,190 --> 00:57:21,330
and his business fundamentally doesn't revolve around Bitcoin.

1223
00:57:21,510 --> 00:57:22,410
It revolves around AI.

1224
00:57:23,850 --> 00:57:28,570
But he still wants to be part of the Bitcoin community

1225
00:57:28,570 --> 00:57:30,770
because his company deals in Bitcoin.

1226
00:57:31,770 --> 00:57:32,430
So where is that?

1227
00:57:32,490 --> 00:57:37,690
But he exists in a bit refill type of role

1228
00:57:37,690 --> 00:57:43,710
where Bitcoin is just one of many types of customers he serves.

1229
00:57:43,710 --> 00:57:49,330
and especially among the maximalists,

1230
00:57:49,350 --> 00:57:53,570
he shouldn't expect to get nice treatment.

1231
00:57:54,030 --> 00:57:58,810
Yeah, because he's explicitly out there being like,

1232
00:57:58,830 --> 00:57:59,810
you guys aren't enough for me.

1233
00:58:00,090 --> 00:58:00,470
Sorry.

1234
00:58:02,270 --> 00:58:07,050
Imagine telling your wife or your partner that you want to date other people

1235
00:58:07,050 --> 00:58:09,750
and being like, well, why don't you like that?

1236
00:58:09,750 --> 00:58:11,890
I'm just going to get my needs met.

1237
00:58:12,530 --> 00:58:12,930
Whoa.

1238
00:58:13,710 --> 00:58:14,710
What are you talking about?

1239
00:58:19,510 --> 00:58:20,850
Undiscipline also had another comment.

1240
00:58:20,970 --> 00:58:23,470
He said, Oceania is all the blankety blank,

1241
00:58:23,650 --> 00:58:25,630
or all the poop, southeast of Asia.

1242
00:58:25,750 --> 00:58:26,210
What does that mean?

1243
00:58:26,630 --> 00:58:27,590
I don't remember that.

1244
00:58:28,850 --> 00:58:31,630
I think it's, someone came in the comments

1245
00:58:31,630 --> 00:58:33,370
and shared a nice picture.

1246
00:58:33,930 --> 00:58:36,770
I think it's like New Zealand and Australia and stuff.

1247
00:58:36,810 --> 00:58:37,150
Oh, cool.

1248
00:58:37,290 --> 00:58:37,530
Down there.

1249
00:58:38,450 --> 00:58:39,610
And the blockchain boom just said Zap.

1250
00:58:40,490 --> 00:58:41,350
Zap blockchain.

1251
00:58:41,430 --> 00:58:41,990
Cool stuff.

1252
00:58:41,990 --> 00:58:43,190
Keon

1253
00:58:43,190 --> 00:58:46,110
what are you doing this weekend?

1254
00:58:47,110 --> 00:58:48,290
I'm doing code review

1255
00:58:48,290 --> 00:58:48,970
probably

1256
00:58:48,970 --> 00:58:51,530
what are you coding, reviewing?

1257
00:58:52,790 --> 00:58:54,530
just a variety

1258
00:58:54,530 --> 00:58:56,510
of stuff, some fixes that

1259
00:58:56,510 --> 00:58:58,590
Socks has for the editor

1260
00:58:58,590 --> 00:59:02,530
Optimism Vibe Bendered

1261
00:59:02,530 --> 00:59:04,690
Open Timestamps

1262
00:59:04,690 --> 00:59:06,270
we have a really old Open Timestamps

1263
00:59:06,270 --> 00:59:08,510
JavaScript library we're using which is

1264
00:59:08,510 --> 00:59:10,450
has not been

1265
00:59:10,450 --> 00:59:12,390
maintained. Thank you, Peter Schaad.

1266
00:59:14,750 --> 00:59:16,510
Someone else

1267
00:59:16,510 --> 00:59:18,470
wrote that library and just kind of gave up on it.

1268
00:59:19,430 --> 00:59:20,050
Taking shots?

1269
00:59:20,750 --> 00:59:22,510
It's so late in the show to take shots.

1270
00:59:23,590 --> 00:59:24,550
Everyone's checked out

1271
00:59:24,550 --> 00:59:26,430
by now. If they haven't unsubscribed

1272
00:59:26,430 --> 00:59:28,530
yet, we've got to get them to unsubscribe.

1273
00:59:30,430 --> 00:59:32,430
And then, yeah, stuff like that.

1274
00:59:32,750 --> 00:59:34,450
We had someone contribute a tool, like a

1275
00:59:34,450 --> 00:59:35,310
Bitcoin configuration

1276
00:59:35,310 --> 00:59:37,410
file tool.

1277
00:59:38,310 --> 00:59:39,870
Of course. It sounds like you're going to be busy

1278
00:59:39,870 --> 00:59:43,410
work continues.

1279
00:59:43,790 --> 00:59:45,850
Yes. How about you? What are you doing this weekend?

1280
00:59:46,070 --> 00:59:46,690
Oh, this weekend.

1281
00:59:47,830 --> 00:59:49,390
Right now I've got to go to the

1282
00:59:49,390 --> 00:59:51,570
Capital Factory. They're doing a private

1283
00:59:51,570 --> 00:59:53,110
Tim Draper event.

1284
00:59:54,290 --> 00:59:55,330
I want to ask him

1285
00:59:55,330 --> 00:59:57,610
about the Silk Road coins

1286
00:59:57,610 --> 00:59:59,090
if I get a chance.

1287
00:59:59,450 --> 01:00:01,030
You think you're going to meet him? Is he going to be there?

1288
01:00:01,490 --> 01:00:03,610
Dude, can I meet him? Come on. It's your boy.

1289
01:00:04,690 --> 01:00:05,270
Shoot or shoot.

1290
01:00:05,270 --> 01:00:07,470
I imagine he's behind a rope

1291
01:00:07,470 --> 01:00:09,450
of some kind. One of those red ropes.

1292
01:00:09,450 --> 01:00:10,430
Let me go over there and shoot my shot.

1293
01:00:10,830 --> 01:00:12,870
And then we got,

1294
01:00:13,530 --> 01:00:14,210
then tomorrow,

1295
01:00:14,610 --> 01:00:16,970
Nick was saying he wants to do the Jimmy E. Briscuit thing.

1296
01:00:17,110 --> 01:00:18,090
So probably go to that.

1297
01:00:18,590 --> 01:00:20,610
I'll probably be here to get some work done.

1298
01:00:20,930 --> 01:00:23,210
Because I haven't been able to do any work all week.

1299
01:00:23,270 --> 01:00:23,990
It's just been like,

1300
01:00:24,310 --> 01:00:27,090
literally like every day has been like nonstop,

1301
01:00:27,190 --> 01:00:28,450
just me yapping all day,

1302
01:00:28,950 --> 01:00:30,910
talking about blah, blah, blah things

1303
01:00:30,910 --> 01:00:34,070
and being on the offensive and stuff like that.

1304
01:00:34,070 --> 01:00:35,150
It's just all,

1305
01:00:35,330 --> 01:00:38,410
it's all run into each other, basically.

1306
01:00:38,410 --> 01:00:41,370
tomorrow I'll actually be able to look at all the work that I

1307
01:00:41,370 --> 01:00:43,110
need to do

1308
01:00:43,110 --> 01:00:44,790
and catch up on all sorts of

1309
01:00:44,790 --> 01:00:47,270
apologize in advance to all the people that I've ignored

1310
01:00:47,270 --> 01:00:48,830
this week on messages. It's not because I

1311
01:00:48,830 --> 01:00:51,110
haven't looked at them, which I haven't

1312
01:00:51,110 --> 01:00:52,770
but I just haven't had time to

1313
01:00:52,770 --> 01:00:55,130
stop and breathe. It's been non-stop.

1314
01:00:55,430 --> 01:00:56,870
It's just crazy. This year was crazy.

1315
01:00:57,330 --> 01:00:59,190
Crazier than last year. I don't remember being this

1316
01:00:59,190 --> 01:01:01,190
busy. I don't remember being this busy last year

1317
01:01:01,190 --> 01:01:03,450
for myself

1318
01:01:03,450 --> 01:01:05,450
personally. More busier this year.

1319
01:01:05,970 --> 01:01:07,270
Did you throw a conference last

1320
01:01:07,270 --> 01:01:12,050
year around yeah we did startup day just one day oh that's right this year was two days so it's a

1321
01:01:12,050 --> 01:01:18,310
little bit more intense that would make sense but um but yeah do so get all that stuff and then

1322
01:01:18,310 --> 01:01:24,390
probably hang out with some with the guys for the jimmy brisket party check that out jimmy

1323
01:01:24,390 --> 01:01:30,150
eats brisket is that yeah so oh dude they'll love this um gray ruby will love this because i know

1324
01:01:30,150 --> 01:01:31,490
he's into like interesting bands.

1325
01:01:31,690 --> 01:01:34,150
So there's this band called Jimmy Eat

1326
01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:35,150
Brisket.

1327
01:01:36,150 --> 01:01:37,870
And what they do is,

1328
01:01:38,090 --> 01:01:39,930
oh, there he goes. So they're like a cover

1329
01:01:39,930 --> 01:01:41,670
band. And

1330
01:01:41,670 --> 01:01:43,930
they're actually like really good.

1331
01:01:44,930 --> 01:01:45,810
And so me and Nick

1332
01:01:45,810 --> 01:01:46,550
like watching them.

1333
01:01:47,550 --> 01:01:48,890
And so we're going to go

1334
01:01:48,890 --> 01:01:51,410
check it out. Look at all those millennials.

1335
01:01:51,890 --> 01:01:53,710
Yeah, it's just a bunch of millennials.

1336
01:01:53,910 --> 01:01:54,550
It's awesome.

1337
01:01:55,490 --> 01:01:57,670
They're so good, dude.

1338
01:01:57,670 --> 01:01:59,470
Like it's just like a good time.

1339
01:02:00,150 --> 01:02:02,530
Like, singer's, like, really good at singing.

1340
01:02:03,390 --> 01:02:05,010
Guitarist, like, has his flair.

1341
01:02:05,230 --> 01:02:07,030
It's just a good time, man.

1342
01:02:07,790 --> 01:02:09,110
Like, see how much fun that is?

1343
01:02:09,250 --> 01:02:10,850
Like, Jimmy Eat Brisket.

1344
01:02:10,930 --> 01:02:11,750
You should come, Keon.

1345
01:02:12,790 --> 01:02:14,270
I don't really like conferences.

1346
01:02:14,270 --> 01:02:15,310
Just come, dude.

1347
01:02:15,370 --> 01:02:16,130
It's not a conference.

1348
01:02:16,350 --> 01:02:18,190
It's just an outdoor.

1349
01:02:18,350 --> 01:02:19,430
We're going to go to an outdoor venue.

1350
01:02:19,550 --> 01:02:20,710
There's going to be beers flowing.

1351
01:02:20,930 --> 01:02:21,670
We're just going to drink.

1352
01:02:21,890 --> 01:02:23,150
It's just so loud, usually.

1353
01:02:23,150 --> 01:02:24,310
Yes, that's the whole point.

1354
01:02:24,330 --> 01:02:25,570
I don't like loud, though.

1355
01:02:25,770 --> 01:02:27,530
Just put your headphones on.

1356
01:02:28,130 --> 01:02:30,050
But then I can't talk to anyone, and then why?

1357
01:02:30,150 --> 01:02:31,230
There's not the point of talking.

1358
01:02:31,350 --> 01:02:33,570
You're screaming and singing at the same time.

1359
01:02:35,310 --> 01:02:36,470
They don't get it.

1360
01:02:36,890 --> 01:02:40,310
You just stand around with other people you can't talk to,

1361
01:02:40,370 --> 01:02:41,670
and you just yell at each other.

1362
01:02:41,950 --> 01:02:42,510
Doesn't that sound right?

1363
01:02:42,510 --> 01:02:44,190
You're going to go with us to Jimmy Briskin tomorrow?

1364
01:02:46,250 --> 01:02:46,910
Oh, man.

1365
01:02:47,450 --> 01:02:48,610
You guys are such autists.

1366
01:02:50,230 --> 01:02:51,710
Anyways, me and Nick are going to go,

1367
01:02:51,790 --> 01:02:55,670
because Nick's like the least autist out of everybody in here, I would say.

1368
01:02:55,910 --> 01:02:57,370
In some ways, the most autist.

1369
01:02:57,370 --> 01:02:59,910
anyways

1370
01:02:59,910 --> 01:03:00,670
Jimmy Brisket

1371
01:03:00,670 --> 01:03:02,430
yeah we're going to do that

1372
01:03:02,430 --> 01:03:02,790
and then

1373
01:03:02,790 --> 01:03:03,990
that'll be the end of the week

1374
01:03:03,990 --> 01:03:05,430
and then get back to normal stuff

1375
01:03:05,430 --> 01:03:06,650
I can't wait until next week

1376
01:03:06,650 --> 01:03:08,090
it's just going to be all boring again

1377
01:03:08,090 --> 01:03:09,450
super boring

1378
01:03:09,450 --> 01:03:11,230
but it's been a good week

1379
01:03:11,230 --> 01:03:11,250
I don't know

1380
01:03:11,250 --> 01:03:12,090
this is spring

1381
01:03:12,090 --> 01:03:12,530
I mean

1382
01:03:12,530 --> 01:03:13,450
Austin gets

1383
01:03:13,450 --> 01:03:14,830
yeah but you know

1384
01:03:14,830 --> 01:03:15,830
the big conference in Vegas

1385
01:03:15,830 --> 01:03:16,730
is next month

1386
01:03:16,730 --> 01:03:17,970
it's true

1387
01:03:17,970 --> 01:03:19,130
oh I forgot to share that

1388
01:03:19,130 --> 01:03:20,050
let me share that real quick

1389
01:03:20,050 --> 01:03:20,410
so

1390
01:03:20,410 --> 01:03:21,570
Twitter

1391
01:03:21,570 --> 01:03:23,690
let me go here

1392
01:03:23,690 --> 01:03:24,670
and type in

1393
01:03:24,670 --> 01:03:26,090
I think it's

1394
01:03:26,090 --> 01:03:26,930
do they do at

1395
01:03:26,930 --> 01:03:28,470
no they don't do that

1396
01:03:28,470 --> 01:03:31,030
let me see if that works

1397
01:03:31,030 --> 01:03:33,170
yeah yeah so TabConf is going to be doing

1398
01:03:33,170 --> 01:03:34,790
the

1399
01:03:34,790 --> 01:03:36,110
where is it at

1400
01:03:36,110 --> 01:03:38,850
I can't find it

1401
01:03:38,850 --> 01:03:41,070
so TabConf is going to be doing a BitDevs in Vegas

1402
01:03:41,070 --> 01:03:43,030
next month if you haven't

1403
01:03:43,030 --> 01:03:44,910
sign up now it's on Event 2

1404
01:03:44,910 --> 01:03:47,410
and let me see if I can go to it right now

1405
01:03:47,410 --> 01:03:49,330
I forgot to mention this

1406
01:03:49,330 --> 01:03:50,950
Event 2

1407
01:03:50,950 --> 01:03:53,090
Event 2

1408
01:03:53,090 --> 01:03:55,050
right there

1409
01:03:55,050 --> 01:03:59,930
boom you go here click click on where is it at

1410
01:04:03,610 --> 01:04:10,570
if you're going to the biggest conference um you want to do this here let me go here gosh

1411
01:04:12,170 --> 01:04:13,610
when i get to the uh

1412
01:04:16,330 --> 01:04:21,530
is it just tap golf i think oh maybe that's it yeah there it goes cool that worked

1413
01:04:21,530 --> 01:04:23,270
events.

1414
01:04:24,330 --> 01:04:25,870
Yeah, so TapConf's going to do

1415
01:04:25,870 --> 01:04:28,050
Vegas event next month,

1416
01:04:28,370 --> 01:04:29,590
April 26th.

1417
01:04:29,810 --> 01:04:31,870
Get on here now because there's

1418
01:04:31,870 --> 01:04:33,990
limited seating. There's like 142

1419
01:04:33,990 --> 01:04:34,730
I think spots.

1420
01:04:35,770 --> 01:04:36,970
Sponsored by local hosts,

1421
01:04:38,190 --> 01:04:39,150
event two, and spiral.

1422
01:04:40,230 --> 01:04:41,990
Just wanted to share this real quick

1423
01:04:41,990 --> 01:04:44,390
because it's going to be fun.

1424
01:04:44,750 --> 01:04:45,970
Are you going to Vegas next month, Keon?

1425
01:04:46,370 --> 01:04:46,730
Nope.

1426
01:04:49,930 --> 01:04:50,370
Cool.

1427
01:04:50,550 --> 01:04:51,250
It's going to be a good time.

1428
01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:52,290
Hit RSVP.

1429
01:04:52,370 --> 01:04:52,810
It's free.

1430
01:04:53,710 --> 01:04:56,870
Just sign up early before we cap.

1431
01:04:58,610 --> 01:04:59,330
All right.

1432
01:04:59,490 --> 01:05:00,270
Key on.

1433
01:05:01,730 --> 01:05:02,150
What's up?

1434
01:05:02,750 --> 01:05:03,190
All right.