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live from

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plan lab in austin texas this is stacker news live

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hello ladies and welcome back to another exciting episode of stacker news live my name is carl wf

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keon keon how was your week it was great i didn't know what her starting but

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oh i usually when you change your like tone that's how i it really lets me know my week was

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So good.

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There's so much happening around everywhere all the time.

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And it really never ends up.

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And it just keeps going.

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Definitely keeps going.

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And time.

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I don't think anything really happened for me this week.

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I don't think I did anything that anyone would call fun except me.

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um so i have nothing to i have i continue to have nothing to share about my life how about you how

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was your week it was good it was a busy week we had a bitcoin builders club on monday

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with brandon keys then we had um what else happened this week that was great you did a

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good job i told you oh your interview right it was good it was really good um what else do we have

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and then just still kind of fixing up the lab a little bit we have a couple things

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done and then yeah just it's just really busy and then last night i saw avatar

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three right i dropped my review on stacker news i don't know if you read it or not but i did read

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it it was very uh you didn't have many spoilers you warned about spoilers and i was afraid i was

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totally spoiled it's a kind of like squinting as i went through it hoping i wouldn't get

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but yeah a big spoiler but you didn't do a big spoiler it's just kind of like a way up i think

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other people have reviewed it in a different way i think i was just reviewing it as the story

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and the um just how it fit in the whole trilogy or whatever i read this morning though after i

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had written and i'm glad i didn't read any of the stuff whatever but i read this morning that

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they're not going to do four and five until like 2030 or something which is ridiculous

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when did they release two?

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like two years ago

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yeah like two years ago

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he's been working

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on it for like 30 years dude

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just Avatar?

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just Avatar yeah

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no I don't believe it

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yeah

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okay well he must have big plans for it

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but it's a lot

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of big blue aliens

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in just the span of two years

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I mean for 30 years imagine just doing one thing for 30 years

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I mean they should be really good but it sounded like you were kind of not

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I don't want to don't spoil it don't spoil it for people that are watching this because they might want to go see it so

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you have to read the post

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it's there

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other than that it was just good week it was just really fast

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everybody's out of town

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well I don't know

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maybe Austin itself kind of clears out on holidays

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which is kind of nice.

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And the lab is sort of empty.

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Yep.

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But not completely empty.

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We still got Space Ted.

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Tuffer's in there somewhere.

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Qualified Ted.

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If you've never seen this crazy show before,

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we're going to talk about all the top stories on,

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well, not all of them,

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the top three top stories on Stacker News Live.

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If you want to check out the YouTube channel,

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it keeps getting i don't know why people keep subscribing like this is ridiculous

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at this point they need it you guys need to unsubscribe like this is not good we're gonna

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have to start watching what we say we're gonna start getting paid by the by the youtube people

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it's gonna be bad this is how this shows get bad is the more popular they get

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the more just goes down the drain just remember this i said this how many subscribers do you think

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we need to get invited to like a wef like babos type i don't think we're that far probably another

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500 another 500 we'll go we'll pay our way i don't want to go to the wef really you wouldn't

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wear you wouldn't interview klaus swab dude i got invited to the satoshi roundtable remember i told

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you i don't i don't want to go to that dude podcast from epstein's island i don't want to go

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to the other screen screen we should do that that's what our background i don't want to do that

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anyway check out the check out the um check out the youtube there's a lot of videos wubble's doing

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a lot of really cool videos here. Turns out

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last week the most popular video was the Gen Z Retro Tech.

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And we even got a comment that we're going to talk about later. So stay tuned for that.

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But a lot of cool stuff. He's clipping them.

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And with that, let's jump into the top three stories this week. The number three top

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story is Banks and Strategy because that's what strategy is. From Bloomberg

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Matt Levine. From Dan, 12 comments, $1,387.

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sense guillem what's this yeah i learned some things on this one as i usually do from

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uh these den posts uh den lilipon i think is my how you might say it um uh he he covered

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matt levine this week matt levine i think in this is like a weekly newsletter where matt levine

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picks out a bunch of articles that he likes and shares them uh he shared two stories from it the

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The first one is about how banks aren't really the main people loaning money to businesses anymore.

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that private firms, hedge funds, I don't know, other groups of non-bank financial entities

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are who provide loans to other businesses.

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that they're getting in terms of deposits

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if they're not loaning it out like how we're used to them doing.

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Well, they're loaning it to these non-bank financial firms.

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So the new banks or the people who are serving the purpose of banks

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get loans from the old banks

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to be able to do their new banking activities.

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or maybe more economically is because they're not regulated like a typical bank is.

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like an arbitrage for private entities capable of getting bank loans

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to take that money and then loan it out to people in the economy.

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arguments to be had

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or arguments to be made

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that this actually is less risky

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in many ways than banks doing this

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you know defaults on the loans

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in a way because the private entity

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i'm not i'm not certain that's true is this the same thing as like credit default swaps

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or is it not that bad it's reminiscent because it's like there's just it's like layers where

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it's actually harder to gauge risk like as as risk travels through layers and so uh you can be

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you know you can be a domino very far down the line and not see like all the ones collapsing

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towards you um versus if you're you know just if you are the only domino uh you can kind of see the

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finger coming to knock you over um yeah so it looks like they actually made the was it the

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dodd frank act in the u.s and it almost seems like that was supposed to reform a lot of this stuff

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um i forget interesting i forget what dodd frank did specifically but i know it was talked a lot

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about it was political election he said it was aimed to be transparency competition and

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standardized rules to be to the derivatives market many of which have been absent since

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the market's emergence in the 1980s um it was all because of the equity swaps in 2008 it looks like

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and the credit default response to that and then it was like a systemic risk but remember back then

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that was like 700 billion it wasn't even compared to now it's not even a lot of money uh it's kind

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wild no i think that was that was like it was less than like half of one of the stimuluses

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necessitated a massive u.s government bailout to prevent a complete economic collapse

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wild uh let's see and then he also he also covered uh like the evolving strategy of micro strategy

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where Matt Levine kind of educated us on the reality of MicroStrategy's situation

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and that they were selling $1 of Bitcoin for $2 on the stock market for a long while.

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And he warned us that the premium would eventually collapse as this went on long enough.

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And it appears to have done so.

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But it appears strategy is still able to make a little bit of money on this trade.

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They're selling $1 worth of Bitcoin for about a 10% premium to the market.

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but it is not as lucrative as it once appeared.

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And that might just be the reality of today.

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And maybe, you know, it goes one way or the other in the future.

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But yeah, and you're seeing a lot of people, no names.

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We've seen a lot of people in this space who launched these treasury companies over the summer.

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And now they're like, oh, we're going to have these services and we're going to do something with that Bitcoin.

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It's not just going to be a.

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Yeah, they're pretending now that they actually have a business.

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Yeah, a business.

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Because before it was all the rage to be like, strategy is old and dated because they have a business that they have to support in addition to their treasury.

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And you see a lot of the people starting these new treasury companies and they pivoted away from that.

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and they're like, no, we're a very serious Bitcoin company.

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We have these, we're going to do these Bitcoin services and products.

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They're very complicated.

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They're too hard for you to understand.

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They're so new and so revolutionary.

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Like literally quoting someone who, a Bitcoiner who was running one of these on CNBC.

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That's kind of what he was telling the people who asked him what exactly he's doing.

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He's like, it's so revolutionary.

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You guys won't get it.

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You guys just want, it's like, it sounds exactly like a lot of the altcoin founders and CEOs

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back in back a few years ago where it's it's all just baloney and they're just kind of

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they're selling they're trying to they're trying to rob you and convincing you you're gonna you're

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contributing actually some technological paradise that they're gonna create well i mean the great

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thing is there's this whole segment of the ecosystem that is bought into that narrative and

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whether you like it or not it's going to happen so that's a good thing the good thing for the

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Snackers who are listening to this, they can see through a lot of that BS.

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And if you're really serious about snacking Bitcoin, you just go ahead and buy it, it turns out.

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Please don't get caught up in these treasury companies.

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Scoresby had the top comment.

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He said, this has been coming up a lot for me lately.

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Society passes onerous, complicated regulations that causes market distortions.

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Then society bemoans the market distortions.

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the way levine talks about banks made me see a contrast with insurance that i hadn't seen before

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banks have on-demand deposits insurers have on catastrophe deposits in general insurers seem to

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have been able to work out the probabilities on how frequently they will need to pay out

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what is it that banks couldn't do the same oh good stuff yeah i think we talked about this at length

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ready to move on um the next top story this week was what other rabbit holes have you fallen into

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this is from jason b 63 comments 3 295 cents kian what's this yeah so jason b has a rabbit hole

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of their own it appears they're really into i i don't know what you'd call this uh field exactly

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I think it's like ancient civilizations or sort of Graham Hancock stuff, stuff that I really like.

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I've never gotten into it this deep.

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I don't have books on it or anything.

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But this kind of lost civilizations, I think, is maybe the usual term used to describe it.

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And so I was wondering if stackers had their own kind of thing like this where we're all kind of pretty interested in Bitcoin.

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and maybe we found a similar magnitude of interest

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in some other area.

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And it'd be kind of cool to learn that about each other.

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So yeah, a bunch of people,

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a bunch of stackers chimed in.

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And the top comment was from Optimism.

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He said, thanks to Bitcoiners copying the gold books,

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how money narrative fallen into that rabbit hole

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trying to find out what exactly.

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Bye, Ted.

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Went on prior to 1971.

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Basically, how did the gold standard fail?

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Yeah, that's a good one.

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we always talk about that guy maloney he's he has a whole series on youtube oh yeah yeah the golds

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the gold bug guy i jumped into that hard in like 2015 2016 that is a good uh a good series he has

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there but i i don't know i don't think it explains but it goes definitively why it failed yeah but

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It goes into the Roman collapse and all that kind of stuff.

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Yeah, it goes into like why.

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He didn't teach you.

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I mean, at least I didn't learn in school.

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It goes into like why generally gold standards fail,

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but it doesn't answer what exactly happened in 1971,

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I think is what Optimism is kind of looking for the answer to.

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And then of course we had the Arctic exploration rabbit hole.

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I guess he's talking about that guy who was a general or something,

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and he went out to the antarctica and like uh what did he do i forget that guy what's that guy's name

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i think it was in the 1940s or something i think he might be talking more more generally

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in a high jump yeah this is feeling like a joe rogan podcast but yeah operation high jump

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largest antarctic expedition ever establishing little america for training personnel testing

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equipment uh organized by admiral richard e bird yeah 4700 men 13 ships and 33 aircraft

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imagine that i'm sure score i'm sure scoresby knows all about that but yeah it does seem like

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a lot of these a lot of our rabbit holes are opened up by joe rogan based on this but i

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i would i would guess he's the king of rabbit holes i would guess scoresby did not get it got

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into our exploration and then we got into a rabbit hole on the thing because the thing takes place in

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Antarctica there's a group of us talking about the thing and that was a rabbit hole in itself inside

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the rabbit hole which is kind of cool um i don't imagine there are any rabbits in Antarctica or

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the arctic maybe there are no but there are snow rabbits are there yeah so uh white like white

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rabbits they turn there are rabbits if you i watched the show alone and the rabbits when

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winter hits they turn white they start off brown yeah is that crazy that is pretty cool right yeah

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um and then you said you had like a whole list of things are you sure these just weren't hobbies

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i think you might call those just hobbies maybe i just don't i don't have i think i just might be

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so ashamed i don't have a like a proper rabbit hole i just had to make a bunch of i just had

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to list all my hobbies out i think i i think you just listed hobbies it's probably true when i saw

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i was like this is just a bunch of hobby skiing i don't know yeah it's hard to tell what's a hobby

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and what's like a rabbit hole is when you like uh you don't use your life yeah it consumes your life

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for at least a week like an addiction where it has to destroy it has to hurt your like your ability

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to live a little bit yeah i used to get into creative rabbit holes um all sorts of creative

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rabbit holes not like that but like uh like people or uh you sound like hobbies make car

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No, no, it was in the creative bubble,

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but it was just rabbit holes in the creative bubble.

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If that makes any sense.

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I've written a lot about it on Thriller.

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But yeah, I would get into it for like a week.

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Or I'd get into like music rabbit holes.

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I'd just listen to like one band for like a week

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and listen to the lyrics and stuff like that.

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I really don't have that many rabbit holes I get into, to be honest.

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Yeah, that's hard to...

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I guess I lack the level of commitment to...

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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Do video games fall as rabbit holes?

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No, definitely not.

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I definitely get into a video game rabbit hole.

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What in the cocaine rabbit holes?

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It's like, no, you're just an addict, bro.

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You're just an addict.

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Yeah.

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Definitely get into a video game rabbit hole if that's such a thing,

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but maybe not.

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Cool.

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And then Justin Shocknett said, blacklisted by history.

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Have you ever read that before?

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I can't see.

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No, I know Justin Shocknett's rabbit hole might be psyops.

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I think he's mentioned how he's like a high-op spectator.

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His football is politics, basically.

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He likes looking at all that stuff.

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Ah, it sounds so stressful, but I bet you got some people used to it.

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Cool.

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Yeah, great post.

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The number one top story this week is the true and accurate history of HODL.

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This is from Scoresby, 15 comments, 13,400 cents.

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Keon, what's this?

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Yeah, so I guess yesterday marked the anniversary of this post by GameKyubi, I think is how you might say it, where we get the term HODL from.

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But they posted on the Bitcoin Talk forums about around the time that Bitcoin's price was crashing.

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Bitcoin's price was crashing because there was an unintentional fork in Bitcoin.

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I think the year was November of 2014, was it?

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I can't see the post anymore. Let's see.

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Yeah, December of 2013, I think the unintentional soft fork was in November of that year.

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I didn't know that. I haven't done much Bitcoin historian, but Scoresby does it here.

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In March of 2013, on the 11th, BIP50 caused a chain split.

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And there was a 24-block reorg, which is a big reorg.

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We pretty commonly have one or two block reorgs.

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But I think as far as large reorgs, that might be one of the bigger ones, which is pretty bad for Bitcoin.

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That means anyone who spent money on those 24 blocks or anyone who accepted money on those 24 blocks basically might not have received it unless it also ended up on the other chain.

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So it suggests that maybe Bitcoin won't succeed.

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And so Bitcoin's price crashed.

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And then Game Kiyubi wrote his famous I'm Hodling post, which has a bunch of fun facts in it.

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I think it's his girlfriend went to a lesbian bar.

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And he bemoans not being a great trader because there are probably,

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I guess, on these boards in this day,

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people would brag about when they got in and when they got out

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and how they're moving into one position and another.

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Anyway very famous post and we all kind of use the term hodl And then Scoresby tries to trace why GameKiubi started using the term hodl and then i scoresby tries to trace why game could you be started using the term hodl um or even even try to make a post about holding and i it seems like

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he was inspired by a zao tongued uh billy joel cover um called holding which he shared on he

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shared the day before he wrote he wrote that post so we can thank zaotong for uh

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zaotong perhaps for this game qb post um and i wasn't really aware of zaotong

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were you i didn't even know that was a i didn't even know that was a thing i'd never heard this

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side of the story before with the whole music stuff um i had no idea that even existed did you

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know austin bitcoin club had video like streamed amas that was that he has a video there's a video

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ama with um zoutonged from the austin bitcoin club back in 2014 oh wow and where is i believe

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it's goldstein um it's in the middle so you go if you go up to the middle i think he's uh it's

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in the zao tongs and zao oh the one in ut you mean oh the one that they did ut video ama from 2014

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it's right you just scrolled past it it's right there yeah you just went over it with your mouse

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down yeah yeah there you go third fourth paragraph yeah that's what yeah that yeah it's probably uh

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probably the ut one i would imagine 11 years ago okay that's how tongs interesting yeah i guess the

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The crowd, they basically would just ask him.

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Do you remember Google Plus?

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That was the thing.

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That's funny.

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I know.

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Well, I still use Google Meet, actually, or Google Video or whatever it's called.

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Anyway, very cool.

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It only has 130 views.

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That's wild.

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Let's see.

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Some of the other videos look like they had a decent crowd.

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It looked like it had tens of people in it, which is pretty good.

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Showing that Austin was popping as a Bitcoin place back then.

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but I'd never seen this

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I mean I never seen

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I never knew these videos existed or Austin Bitcoin Club

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was really a thing back then but I also just didn't know

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like some of this history

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Bitcoin Meetup

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yeah Meetup Club

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I'm less about

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names but

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25 subscribers

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that's it

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I think I stopped producing videos in like 2015

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oh yeah

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but really cool

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I should go back and watch some of this.

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I love how he has the mask on right in front of the camera.

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It looks really cool.

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Yeah.

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Anyways, this is great.

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Scoresby with another one.

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Anything else you see here?

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I think the excerpt from the Billy Joel interview,

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or I think it was one of the producers of one of Billy Joel's albums,

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gave a an anecdote from an experience they had when billy joel was writing a song um and that was

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that was nice as well anyway the post is great i recommend reading it has a lot of facets to it a

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lot that is was new to me there's uh there's a post here by scores we said this is cool didn't

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realize that sailors fud tweet was the same day as game boobies hodl post um so say so

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for the snackers that are listening

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Michael Saylor is notorious for saying

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Bitcoin days are numbered back in 2013

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right around

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when he was very

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bearish on Bitcoin. He said

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Bitcoin days are

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numbered it seems like just a matter of time before it

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suffers the same fate as online gambling.

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Wow, reading

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his own future. And then

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Bitcoin News quote retweeted

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it said Bitcoin history is wild, the birth

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of the HODL meme and Michael Saylor's new

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iconic Bitcoin FUD tweet both happened on this day, December 18th, exactly 12 years ago.

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Yeah, kind of crazy. That happened on the same day. Maybe Michael Saylor is Game Kiyubi.

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And he was just-

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That was him in that sense.

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Yeah. Well, that wasn't Game Kiyubi. That was Zao Tang's in the mask.

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I don't know.

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Game Kiyubi, I guess, did hang around the Bitcoin scene for a bit. But I don't think

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they're really online that's game cuby anymore cool stuff um that was all the top stories this

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week we're going to jump into um keon's top stories this week we can go into keon's uh your

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first top story was squatting amsterdam episode two breaking into my house this is from bitcoin

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graffiti uh what's this can yeah so this is the second yesterday um bitcoin graffiti shared

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the first episode to this.

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And I think they shared in some thread

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that they were part of a squatting community in Amsterdam.

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And then a bunch of stackers were like,

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what, what is that about?

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What is going on there?

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Or he teased it, I think, in some drawing he did

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because Beckham Graffiti will share pen drawings

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and stuff in the art territory.

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A bunch of people wanted to hear about it.

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So he shared the background on it,

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which is now, I guess, now okay to share.

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It used to be very private because, you know,

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it was like kind of secret what they were doing,

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but it's been since made illegal to do squat.

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Anyway,

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it shares a story of how he got in the squatting scene and what that was

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like and some of the rules behind the squatting scene.

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And then,

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and that was in the first episode.

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The second episode covers his,

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the first flat he squatted in.

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So he was the one who initiated the squat,

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the squat.

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He's like squatters come and squat with you or.

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Yeah,

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they do it as groups, big groups of 30 people and they have a whole squat. Yeah. They have a whole

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procedure. Well, they help you break in basically. They have a whole procedure where they meet up 30

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people around the corner and they have all the things that they need. They have two people who

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are dedicated to opening doors. Uh, everyone's ID and passport are collected so that they're not on

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them. So the cops show up. Um, and then the 30 people are there to kind of keep the cops or

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neighbors away from interfering with them, opening doors and getting set up. Cause apparently what

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you have to do is you have to get in, you have to break through the doors. And then once you're

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inside, you have to put in a chair, a mattress. And I think one other, one other item in order

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for you to be able to claim that you're inhabiting, you were like legally squatting this place. And so

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they'll get in. And I think they also barricade the door from the inside so that the cops can't,

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like no one can come in and force them out. And then, and then at the end, once they're all set

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up and they're in there and everything is like to the to the law like legally they are now the

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occupant of that residence they call the cops themselves and then the cops document that they

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inhabit uh that that unit now and meet all the requirements and now they have like a legal claim

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to reside there which which is really interesting i had no way they pay utilities or do they pay

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utilities uh i would guess they probably have to yeah okay yeah i would guess they do but they don't

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they don't have to pay to live there as far as I know.

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That's crazy.

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Cause it,

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it,

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I think a lot of these squatting laws are premised on,

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you know,

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people not occupying a residence for over a year.

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So I think that's part of how they establish whether someplace can be

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squatted as they confirm that no one has been there for a year.

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And they're just like,

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there's someone who is like not using a great property or.

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Yeah.

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I used to be neighbors here in Austin to,

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to a guy.

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He was like an old Austin hippie,

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but he was squatting at this lady's house who she let stay there.

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I forget what the arrangement was,

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but he was basically squatting in the backyard.

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And so on the east side, you know how the east side has, like,

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really long backyards,

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and some people will build another condo back there or whatever,

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a separate house.

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Well, this one didn't have that.

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It was just the house in the front and then that whole area in the back.

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And I remember, because we used to talk to him all the time,

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and he was like, he would tell us

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he was like squatting in that backyard

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and the police would come.

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I remember seeing him one time

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and they couldn't do anything to him

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because he was squatting in the backyard.

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I think that's a thing too in Austin

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or maybe it was a thing in like the 2010s or whatever.

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But I remember that was the only time I ever saw somebody.

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But I didn't know what his arrangement was

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because they couldn't,

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she couldn't forcibly kick him out.

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I think if someone,

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everywhere squatting laws are different

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And I think a lot of these laws were put in place back when there were like dust bowl towns and stuff where people would just completely desert them and like no one cared about them anymore.

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And they needed legal rights for the people who showed up in their place.

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And I don't think any of those laws got updated.

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Then modern people have kind of taken the opportunity or seized the opportunity and tried to occupy these places.

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But it's an interesting situation.

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it sounds like the place they were squatting in that seems pretty legit like uh the person hasn't

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been there for a number of years they're not they're not really keeping it up and they took

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it they kind of took it over and there's a ton of those kind of houses in like middle america right

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and like every town or every town that's kind of gone bust as far as like jobs and stuff there's

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all those houses i know when i go when i drive down to corpus like it's just like

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you pass through a lot of these smaller towns and you drive into those towns and there's just

461
00:30:48,832 --> 00:30:54,892
tons of houses that are just like vacant so um yeah but i mean i think it's yeah it's probably

462
00:30:54,892 --> 00:31:00,212
quite a bit less common in in like city centers yeah like this like it sounds like this is a

463
00:31:00,212 --> 00:31:05,072
really nice place to live and people who own real estate there and that aren't occupying it are most

464
00:31:05,072 --> 00:31:11,092
likely doing it as like an investment that they're holding which is crappy for local residents because

465
00:31:11,092 --> 00:31:16,612
it increases the rent um reduces the housing supply that's wild i know that's a thing in

466
00:31:16,612 --> 00:31:21,492
amsterdam oh it's so cool i just love the detail i would never i mean you know you could have

467
00:31:21,492 --> 00:31:27,252
someone say they want squatted but we know how exactly how it worked and um it was like those

468
00:31:27,252 --> 00:31:32,732
people they made a documentary i'd have to look for it but there's a documentary about some people

469
00:31:32,732 --> 00:31:39,752
um basically uh here let me see if i could find it it was like a shopping center or no it was the

470
00:31:39,752 --> 00:31:49,212
mall and then they squatted and made a uh well let me see if i can find it yes secret mall

471
00:31:49,212 --> 00:31:57,392
apartment it was this one let me see if i could share this one here um go here and share it real

472
00:31:57,392 --> 00:32:05,192
quick so is this this movie where they talk about like um squatting in like this kind of

473
00:32:05,192 --> 00:32:11,032
of mall that they were doing construction still in and then like these group of people come in there

474
00:32:11,032 --> 00:32:17,532
and then they just like set up and they live there and so they build like an apartment kind

475
00:32:17,532 --> 00:32:23,592
of like what you said is like very similar but this happened in rhode island i guess oh um so

476
00:32:23,592 --> 00:32:28,652
yeah but like see how they come in and it's a whole documentary on it but it was it was pretty

477
00:32:28,652 --> 00:32:34,212
popular um i think it was last year i heard about it that's pretty fun rhode island is pretty posh

478
00:32:34,212 --> 00:32:41,112
So it's not, you know, it's probably the type of squatting that other posh people would cheer on.

479
00:32:41,112 --> 00:32:48,332
But look, like you said, they're just like climbing in through these things just to get to their squat position.

480
00:32:50,552 --> 00:32:54,612
And then they have to like go past security and stuff like that.

481
00:32:55,612 --> 00:32:56,052
Anyways.

482
00:32:57,112 --> 00:32:59,672
Yeah, I think that's I think that's pretty fun.

483
00:33:00,212 --> 00:33:02,012
It'd be cool to see a documentary on this, too.

484
00:33:02,112 --> 00:33:02,812
That'd be interesting.

485
00:33:02,812 --> 00:33:08,452
something i could totally imagine myself doing uh in another life my early 20s yeah

486
00:33:08,452 --> 00:33:18,512
um the next story that you had was um vision dedication and love fixes this in bitcoin this is

487
00:33:18,512 --> 00:33:28,492
uh from dagny 761 what's this can yeah so dagny is jason b's uh other half and uh she's she tells

488
00:33:28,492 --> 00:33:33,292
the side of South Africa that she saw. So for the last couple of weeks, Jason B has been sharing

489
00:33:33,292 --> 00:33:39,132
stories about his time in South Africa and trying to participate in the Bitcoin community. They're

490
00:33:39,132 --> 00:33:47,532
trying to help them get miners attached to their growing solar installs. And his wife, with Nim Dagny

491
00:33:47,532 --> 00:33:57,452
here, spent a lot of time homeschooling the kids, but adjacent to, or some of the kids, I think the

492
00:33:57,452 --> 00:34:03,432
older kids were participating in this after school surf program. I think it's called, I think it might

493
00:34:03,432 --> 00:34:13,152
be called Surfer Kids, but it's a local nonprofit in South Africa that takes, I think, troubled

494
00:34:13,152 --> 00:34:21,112
youths or just youths in general. I'm not exactly sure the conditions, but they teach them how to

495
00:34:21,112 --> 00:34:24,632
surf. They teach them how to skateboard. They teach them how to take care of the equipment.

496
00:34:24,632 --> 00:34:30,852
and she details the whole experience

497
00:34:30,852 --> 00:34:32,852
and what she learned from it

498
00:34:32,852 --> 00:34:34,872
and how to raise her kids

499
00:34:34,872 --> 00:34:38,872
and how self-perpetuating it is.

500
00:34:38,952 --> 00:34:42,132
I guess a lot of the instructors used to be students

501
00:34:42,132 --> 00:34:44,052
in the SURF program.

502
00:34:45,252 --> 00:34:48,532
And a lot of them get pretty good

503
00:34:48,532 --> 00:34:49,612
in their winning competitions.

504
00:34:51,012 --> 00:34:53,112
And I guess it's adjacent to Bitcoin Icahsi.

505
00:34:53,112 --> 00:34:59,652
So Bitcoin Acasi, I think, plays some role in, I guess, keeping this entity going.

506
00:35:00,512 --> 00:35:02,352
And they have a lot of plans for it.

507
00:35:04,812 --> 00:35:05,452
I don't know.

508
00:35:05,852 --> 00:35:15,652
It seemed like she was really impressed and grateful for it existing and how much good it seemed to be doing.

509
00:35:17,032 --> 00:35:19,112
It was just a really touching story.

510
00:35:19,972 --> 00:35:21,692
Yeah, it sounds like a really cool community.

511
00:35:22,412 --> 00:35:22,892
Yeah.

512
00:35:23,112 --> 00:35:31,872
there's a uh i guess that's the language of south africa's is he is he who's a uh hamba

513
00:35:31,872 --> 00:35:47,172
gathando means walk go with love um but really cool really cool nice um the next one i guess

514
00:35:47,172 --> 00:35:52,212
you'd have another one after that let's jump into let's jump into my post real quick uh the first

515
00:35:52,212 --> 00:35:59,112
one i want to share was did an early days with um uh lynn and israel i don't know if you ever met

516
00:35:59,112 --> 00:36:05,612
them before probably not right they look too normal like i would i would be afraid to talk

517
00:36:05,612 --> 00:36:11,212
but uh they uh they came on early days and we we talked about a lot of stuff like the

518
00:36:11,212 --> 00:36:17,172
kind of like the transfer into bitcoin the venture capital in bitcoin um like what they're seeing as

519
00:36:17,172 --> 00:36:22,512
far as like startups and like latin america and all that kind of stuff and uh we even talked about

520
00:36:22,512 --> 00:36:28,852
like the startup ecosystem here in uh austin and other places in america it was a great podcast i

521
00:36:28,852 --> 00:36:36,632
definitely enjoyed uh chatting with them um they have a lot of uh experience um over the years i

522
00:36:36,632 --> 00:36:42,172
guess over the decades um working with startups and stuff like that and just really friendly people

523
00:36:42,172 --> 00:36:47,392
really really friendly people in the bitcoin space they're based out of mexico he's based

524
00:36:47,392 --> 00:36:53,612
out of miami okay and she's based out of mexico city i believe yeah okay cool a lot we all run

525
00:36:53,612 --> 00:37:01,192
in the similar like friend circles uh yeah anyways check it out and then the other thing i wanted to

526
00:37:01,192 --> 00:37:12,352
share was tab confs 2026 bill bitcoin open source software challenge so tab conf is um working with

527
00:37:12,352 --> 00:37:18,452
chain code labs on doing this kind of like cohort on on months two and three but the first month

528
00:37:18,452 --> 00:37:23,312
you're going to be uh participating with chain code labs to go through their their their boss

529
00:37:23,312 --> 00:37:28,412
program and uh right now the applications are open but they're supposed to be closing here in like 12

530
00:37:28,412 --> 00:37:32,392
days. So, um, Keon, you've taken the chain code labs.

531
00:37:32,832 --> 00:37:35,772
I haven't done chain code labs a few, quite a few years ago.

532
00:37:35,772 --> 00:37:39,572
It's changed quite a bit. Um, from what I understand, they've,

533
00:37:39,652 --> 00:37:42,712
they've learned a lot and they've made it even better. It was already great.

534
00:37:43,112 --> 00:37:46,772
Um, it was more of like a kind of like a college course type of environment.

535
00:37:46,892 --> 00:37:51,632
When I took it, it sounds, it sounds like from, I think I asked, um,

536
00:37:51,712 --> 00:37:55,392
Jonas, uh, why they changed the format.

537
00:37:55,392 --> 00:38:03,092
I think he said that they noticed that after they had people through their chain code seminars that some of them didn't go on to contribute to open source.

538
00:38:03,292 --> 00:38:14,652
And so this new course is geared towards more hands-on learning and getting them actually contributing already so that when they leave, they're ready to do it.

539
00:38:15,032 --> 00:38:17,432
It's easy for them to chip in.

540
00:38:19,032 --> 00:38:22,432
Yeah, I'd highly recommend doing this.

541
00:38:22,432 --> 00:38:24,612
great bunches of people

542
00:38:24,612 --> 00:38:26,852
both on

543
00:38:26,852 --> 00:38:28,772
the TabConf side and the ChainCode

544
00:38:28,772 --> 00:38:31,152
side. I probably can't

545
00:38:31,152 --> 00:38:32,012
deal with better

546
00:38:32,012 --> 00:38:35,052
more well-intentioned Bitcoiners.

547
00:38:35,172 --> 00:38:36,532
Yeah, for sure. And then also

548
00:38:36,532 --> 00:38:38,692
the really cool thing is like the first

549
00:38:38,692 --> 00:38:40,692
month you'll be working with ChainCode

550
00:38:40,692 --> 00:38:42,812
and then the second

551
00:38:42,812 --> 00:38:43,692
month and third month

552
00:38:43,692 --> 00:38:46,752
TabConf will help you get assigned

553
00:38:46,752 --> 00:38:48,212
to an open source project.

554
00:38:48,992 --> 00:38:50,572
And then they have a Discord now too

555
00:38:50,572 --> 00:38:52,132
so definitely check it out.

556
00:38:52,432 --> 00:38:58,532
um the other thing i wanted to mention was this one just because i think it's it's it's all over

557
00:38:58,532 --> 00:39:02,772
the place and it's everybody's talking about it but uh scorsey posted this should big corners

558
00:39:02,772 --> 00:39:09,272
play the appeasement game with the quantum flood people uh then he goes into some posts that were

559
00:39:09,272 --> 00:39:18,032
shared on on x um have you looked into the quantum stuff keon uh it's like most of it's over my head

560
00:39:18,032 --> 00:39:29,072
I kind of just, there are people that I kind of outsource my trust to other developers who I think have a good handle on it.

561
00:39:29,392 --> 00:39:35,092
I think it's worth paying attention to and not completely disregarding.

562
00:39:36,012 --> 00:39:42,892
But as far as I can tell, we're still, you know, half a decade, a decade away from there being a pressing issue.

563
00:39:42,892 --> 00:39:49,512
but we want to be prepared and it seems like we have good things in place that's my take on it i

564
00:39:49,512 --> 00:39:54,232
didn't pay attention to this yeah it's a lot of stuff going on twitter they're just like back and

565
00:39:54,232 --> 00:40:01,492
forth and um it's the same cast of people um saying things but um i think that the scores we did post

566
00:40:01,492 --> 00:40:06,592
this one by james o'burn he said anyone pushing the quantum narrative is knowingly or not

567
00:40:06,592 --> 00:40:12,352
participating in a pretty nefarious rate on bitcoin it's bedrock deep fud that even smart

568
00:40:12,352 --> 00:40:18,152
layman can't falsify and it may lead to the adoption of weak novel crypto within the world's

569
00:40:18,152 --> 00:40:24,352
most valuable digital bear asset um which i thought it was interesting that he said the same

570
00:40:24,352 --> 00:40:30,012
thing that we were kind of bringing up like two weeks ago about the dj bernstein remember that guy

571
00:40:30,012 --> 00:40:38,352
and now he kind of called this out um on on on the stuff that he's trying to do and i think um

572
00:40:38,352 --> 00:40:45,112
it kind of just kind of goes to the um kind of goes to what james was uh at least hinting to

573
00:40:45,112 --> 00:40:51,492
about the um you know the the weak cryptography side of things um i think that's kind of interesting

574
00:40:51,492 --> 00:40:54,572
yeah i don't think cryptography i think is just one of those things you don't want to rush

575
00:40:54,572 --> 00:41:01,152
so uh you know i mean maybe it's worth rushing if if quantum computing is really here and it's

576
00:41:01,152 --> 00:41:06,512
going to start breaking stuff that's old but otherwise you kind of want to play it safe um

577
00:41:06,512 --> 00:41:12,312
because there are all of these incentives and weirdness you can't kind of trust

578
00:41:12,312 --> 00:41:23,312
everyone involved yeah yeah cool the other one i wanted to i think actually i think that's all

579
00:41:23,312 --> 00:41:30,812
that's all my posts it's all kian's posts let's jump into should we go into uh yeah let's just go

580
00:41:30,812 --> 00:41:35,872
to some ant bitcoin stuff so did you see this one so this one's called adventures in extreme

581
00:41:35,872 --> 00:41:41,752
vibe coding this was from still stacking after all these years and this post was fascinating

582
00:41:41,752 --> 00:41:50,512
it's about this guy who loves his chinese food restaurant that he usually orders from and um

583
00:41:50,512 --> 00:41:56,112
turns out they got hit with a health violation so he was kind of upset about that instead of

584
00:41:56,112 --> 00:42:07,764
you know going to another chinese restaurant he said no no coop i going to find out what happened here And so he started vibe coding or actually he went to the Florida Department of Business

585
00:42:07,764 --> 00:42:09,264
and Professional Regulation website,

586
00:42:09,784 --> 00:42:12,564
and he found like this, I guess,

587
00:42:12,564 --> 00:42:15,444
all this data that he could download,

588
00:42:15,584 --> 00:42:17,424
and he downloaded it via CSV.

589
00:42:17,944 --> 00:42:21,424
He fed it into an LLM, and then he started working.

590
00:42:21,564 --> 00:42:22,924
But it turns out he was an engineer.

591
00:42:23,244 --> 00:42:25,284
He's not like a developer.

592
00:42:25,284 --> 00:42:29,084
but he said it didn't matter because he was vibe coding.

593
00:42:29,684 --> 00:42:32,164
He gets to the point where he talks about it here.

594
00:42:32,624 --> 00:42:33,804
He said, over the next several weeks,

595
00:42:33,884 --> 00:42:35,064
what started as a single question

596
00:42:35,064 --> 00:42:37,384
metasized into something far larger

597
00:42:37,384 --> 00:42:39,724
than I had any business building.

598
00:42:40,424 --> 00:42:43,544
He said that he basically realized

599
00:42:43,544 --> 00:42:46,844
that LLMs don't just fail loudly,

600
00:42:46,844 --> 00:42:48,124
they degrade quietly.

601
00:42:49,024 --> 00:42:51,804
And he had this really great insight that I thought,

602
00:42:51,904 --> 00:42:52,804
and I've shared it here.

603
00:42:52,804 --> 00:42:58,404
yeah he said he said vibe coding is what happens when you don't actually know how to build something

604
00:42:58,404 --> 00:43:03,024
but you know what the outcome should look like and you refuse to stop asking questions

605
00:43:03,024 --> 00:43:11,284
until the shape emerges and uh by by the end he he says he uh he stops he stops vibe coding

606
00:43:11,284 --> 00:43:16,364
um but he said he's probably just going to go back and self-reflect on all this stuff

607
00:43:16,364 --> 00:43:23,364
um you got any thoughts on this i don't you know so i might well have a few but one of them is like

608
00:43:23,364 --> 00:43:30,624
okay so this you know your first big attempted vibe coding failed i don't so what i don't like

609
00:43:30,624 --> 00:43:36,584
most people don't succeed at their first big big attempt at anything um so that that's one thing

610
00:43:36,584 --> 00:43:40,324
and then the other thing is like so i think i'll specifically get better at vibe coding as time

611
00:43:40,324 --> 00:43:43,184
goes on and learn more about coding and what i need to do and when i need to interject and what

612
00:43:43,184 --> 00:43:49,004
it's a prompt or whatever it's you know not that i think vibe coding is foolproof um but

613
00:43:49,004 --> 00:43:57,684
that's one one thing i'd say and then what was the other thing that he the chinese food do you

614
00:43:57,684 --> 00:44:02,764
think um oh i didn't have anything to say about the chinese food i mean it's probably a really

615
00:44:02,764 --> 00:44:08,644
great chinese restaurant you know oh must have been to inspire it was a mainland chinese bistro

616
00:44:08,644 --> 00:44:16,084
in coral springs a bistro that's that's fancy i think that's like european so it's like chinese

617
00:44:16,084 --> 00:44:23,284
some really good news influence you know by european probably good probably good but uh

618
00:44:23,284 --> 00:44:29,684
yeah i think i think uh i haven't done i haven't done the guys in the lab here have done a lot more

619
00:44:29,684 --> 00:44:34,964
than this than i have but where they kind of really let an agent you know code its own thing

620
00:44:34,964 --> 00:44:42,544
that I just don't I think you have to learn how to put guardrails in the right place and how to

621
00:44:42,544 --> 00:44:48,384
give it what it needs to kind of progress in the right ways and it's like a skill yeah entirely on

622
00:44:48,384 --> 00:44:55,224
its own dude I like and we know people and I won't say who but we know people that just talk to their

623
00:44:55,224 --> 00:45:00,024
computer now and invite and it does everything for them that's how locked down they got it now where

624
00:45:00,024 --> 00:45:06,884
um it's basically doing all the work and it's just it's just speaking what it needs needs to

625
00:45:06,884 --> 00:45:13,644
get done yeah it's kind of it's kind of interesting um so that's cool that's that's kind of the elite

626
00:45:13,644 --> 00:45:18,584
level where you could be at and then there's like the this level where he's just like doesn't know

627
00:45:18,584 --> 00:45:27,124
anything just just a man in search of food it sounds like and answers yeah i think you it's like

628
00:45:27,124 --> 00:45:33,644
hmm it's like you you kind of need to steer it i think is the main is what i've seen from people who

629
00:45:33,644 --> 00:45:38,704
uh communicate that they have quite a bit of success with vibe coding is they like know when

630
00:45:38,704 --> 00:45:44,084
it gets like blocked or it goes somewhere kind of strange they know how to they know enough about

631
00:45:44,084 --> 00:45:50,804
the terrain programming technical problems so they know how to steer it back to where it needs

632
00:45:50,804 --> 00:45:55,944
to go to make forward progress and be successful he did say that he started off using one particular

633
00:45:55,944 --> 00:46:00,064
LLM and then he quickly realized that that wasn't enough and you need to switch to other ones to

634
00:46:00,064 --> 00:46:03,704
verify what that one was doing. He talks about it in the post.

635
00:46:05,984 --> 00:46:08,244
That's cool. Yeah. Yeah. So it's a great post.

636
00:46:08,324 --> 00:46:12,204
Definitely check it out. I thought it was worth bringing up because we have a lot of people on Stucker News

637
00:46:12,204 --> 00:46:16,204
that use AI stuff. Optimism said, pretty good observation

638
00:46:16,204 --> 00:46:18,304
about the vibe breaking continuity.

639
00:46:20,884 --> 00:46:23,984
And he said, Winter Yeti said, oh yes, I've seen this a lot

640
00:46:23,984 --> 00:46:25,964
working in Java and LLMs.

641
00:46:26,044 --> 00:46:27,644
You start off fine. Good beginner structure.

642
00:46:28,224 --> 00:46:30,024
However, once you start working on tweaks and pushing

643
00:46:30,024 --> 00:46:32,104
for detail, it forgets the original

644
00:46:32,104 --> 00:46:33,744
structure and creates whole new bugs.

645
00:46:34,964 --> 00:46:36,124
The optos that happens in

646
00:46:36,124 --> 00:46:38,104
all languages. I've seen it happen in Python and

647
00:46:38,104 --> 00:46:40,244
JavaScript too, even though those are the supposed

648
00:46:40,244 --> 00:46:42,044
languages of choice for LLMs today.

649
00:46:43,804 --> 00:46:44,284
Yeah.

650
00:46:46,584 --> 00:46:47,484
Pretty cool stuff.

651
00:46:48,564 --> 00:46:50,104
The next

652
00:46:50,104 --> 00:46:52,044
one that we had was

653
00:46:52,044 --> 00:46:57,264
this one i didn't get to look at this one all the way but it was a video reality test can ai

654
00:46:57,264 --> 00:47:04,804
generated asmr videos for vlms and humans this is from optimism did you see this so you have to

655
00:47:04,804 --> 00:47:11,864
identify which video is ai generated oh okay so they did like uh which one do you think which one

656
00:47:11,864 --> 00:47:17,464
do i think is ai generated yeah um i can tell we're half the bat i think it's the middle one

657
00:47:17,464 --> 00:47:26,564
i think it's the far left one let's see oh that's real wow you said the middle one yeah

658
00:47:26,564 --> 00:47:34,004
oh wow you got that right see dang that one's real it just looked too good there were moments

659
00:47:34,004 --> 00:47:38,904
there were moments like frames of it that looked too good the other one looked really bad so that's

660
00:47:38,904 --> 00:47:45,924
no they're good dude it's like oh no maybe that's just reality everything's yeah it's like oh it's

661
00:47:45,924 --> 00:47:52,344
like oversteers towards like perfection towards like you know like a still where a still is like

662
00:47:52,344 --> 00:47:57,284
a photo yeah that you'd take i guess his knuckles kind of gave it away

663
00:47:57,284 --> 00:48:04,224
it was like seven knuckles or something there um and then uh yeah so he keeps going and talks

664
00:48:04,224 --> 00:48:09,524
about the data analysis for it and then there's some more tests down here yeah real or fake can

665
00:48:09,524 --> 00:48:15,864
you tell the difference oh no i think the problem is just like seeing them side by side but you can

666
00:48:15,864 --> 00:48:21,664
see here the real one is the one on the far left because it's reality and it's not perfect and then

667
00:48:21,664 --> 00:48:28,284
the sword too is the one in the middle i mean and then the far right one you can really tell with

668
00:48:28,284 --> 00:48:33,624
the water though like water is not that i mean it's not avatar you know look that's the kind of

669
00:48:33,624 --> 00:48:39,864
water you see avatar right there yeah right ones yeah but in reality it just looks like uh there's

670
00:48:39,864 --> 00:48:46,664
there's more chaos to water than yeah the ones on the middle right yeah and the intricate carving

671
00:48:46,664 --> 00:48:55,704
the one on the left is real yeah those other two look real fake yeah there's like no uh impurities

672
00:48:55,704 --> 00:49:02,744
same thing here with with wood the real ones the fake ones the one on the front right does

673
00:49:02,744 --> 00:49:07,944
look pretty good though on this one uh no this those lines are pretty straight

674
00:49:09,864 --> 00:49:10,424
Yeah.

675
00:49:10,944 --> 00:49:12,184
Yeah, yellow is not that bright.

676
00:49:12,284 --> 00:49:13,904
It has like an ombre effect.

677
00:49:14,104 --> 00:49:15,024
I just don't, that doesn't seem.

678
00:49:15,024 --> 00:49:15,164
Yeah.

679
00:49:15,524 --> 00:49:17,844
And then the tomato slicing.

680
00:49:19,044 --> 00:49:20,064
Can you tell?

681
00:49:22,504 --> 00:49:22,944
Okay.

682
00:49:24,024 --> 00:49:26,184
Yeah, tomatoes aren't that hard to cut through, though.

683
00:49:26,224 --> 00:49:28,744
They are, if you don't have a sharp knife or a serrated knife.

684
00:49:28,824 --> 00:49:29,784
But it would flatten, though.

685
00:49:30,304 --> 00:49:31,224
Yeah, it would squish.

686
00:49:33,284 --> 00:49:34,224
These are tough.

687
00:49:34,344 --> 00:49:37,924
You can tell the far left one because his finger, I mean, I feel like with the humans,

688
00:49:37,924 --> 00:49:46,364
like you can tell their fingers are normal right yeah i would guess fingers are dead giveaway

689
00:49:46,364 --> 00:49:53,864
are kind of harder to do yeah anyways thought it was a really interesting post on uh can our eyes

690
00:49:53,864 --> 00:49:59,584
just really see this stuff um yeah and this is you know this is as bad as it's going to be

691
00:49:59,584 --> 00:50:06,304
yeah unless they run out of all the money that they have can't pay for those energy more yeah

692
00:50:06,304 --> 00:50:15,544
um the next one is sarcasm the next one is wumble's picks let's jump into wumble's picks

693
00:50:15,544 --> 00:50:20,624
the first one is chinese billionaires are having dozens of u.s babies via surrogacy

694
00:50:20,624 --> 00:50:27,704
as from simple stacker 15 comments 1807 uh did you read about this one kian i did before simple

695
00:50:27,704 --> 00:50:33,184
stacker posted this i had encountered this somewhere um but i guess what's happening is

696
00:50:33,184 --> 00:50:40,124
there are a lot of Chinese billionaires who are contracting with like surrogate agencies in the

697
00:50:40,124 --> 00:50:49,684
United States to impregnate lots of surrogate, like women who elect to have the children of

698
00:50:49,684 --> 00:50:58,884
other people for money. And some of them are having quite a few babies via this route.

699
00:50:58,884 --> 00:51:01,624
I forget exactly what the motivation

700
00:51:01,624 --> 00:51:03,884
or why they are going out of the United...

701
00:51:03,884 --> 00:51:05,484
Oh, because there are surrogacy laws.

702
00:51:06,684 --> 00:51:08,404
There are laws against this in China.

703
00:51:08,544 --> 00:51:10,844
So they have to view them in other countries.

704
00:51:11,544 --> 00:51:12,844
And I would guess they do them

705
00:51:12,844 --> 00:51:14,404
anywhere where they accept this.

706
00:51:14,464 --> 00:51:16,104
But we do this in the United States.

707
00:51:16,104 --> 00:51:16,664
It's legal.

708
00:51:17,144 --> 00:51:19,564
And so they are going to these agencies

709
00:51:19,564 --> 00:51:23,784
and asking for like 10 surrogate children.

710
00:51:25,084 --> 00:51:26,924
And I think it's like $50,000

711
00:51:26,924 --> 00:51:31,924
or maybe it's like $100,000 a kid, $50,000 of it ends up with a surrogate.

712
00:51:32,464 --> 00:51:34,804
And I think the agency for placing them,

713
00:51:34,944 --> 00:51:37,544
for doing all the middlemaning gets the other half.

714
00:51:39,644 --> 00:51:42,464
But yeah, some people are kind of-

715
00:51:42,464 --> 00:51:43,144
We're not Costco.

716
00:51:44,004 --> 00:51:45,804
I forget what-

717
00:51:45,804 --> 00:51:46,344
It's funny.

718
00:51:46,464 --> 00:51:49,784
Oh no, the guy wanted a discount, I think is what ended up happening.

719
00:51:49,904 --> 00:51:51,424
He's like, he wanted like a bulk discount.

720
00:51:52,204 --> 00:51:54,004
I'm getting this many surrogates from you.

721
00:51:54,104 --> 00:51:56,004
Can I get this for a little cheaper?

722
00:51:56,004 --> 00:52:01,464
and she's like dude what is wrong with you um and then it covers like some of them having buyer's

723
00:52:01,464 --> 00:52:07,564
remorse uh and you mean buyer's remorse well like you know you you buy five children and maybe

724
00:52:07,564 --> 00:52:12,544
you realize that's more children than you wanted that's buyer's remorse like you maybe you didn't

725
00:52:12,544 --> 00:52:17,004
want one at all maybe you just had you had a moment you know you were like underslept you're

726
00:52:17,004 --> 00:52:20,644
on the internet and there's like a there's a website you land on where you could buy children

727
00:52:20,644 --> 00:52:24,624
and you bought more than you wanted.

728
00:52:25,064 --> 00:52:27,984
Or you didn't actually want to raise a child.

729
00:52:28,124 --> 00:52:30,584
You just kind of, in that moment, you wanted to buy one.

730
00:52:31,184 --> 00:52:34,364
But kind of wild.

731
00:52:35,084 --> 00:52:35,884
Pretty wild.

732
00:52:36,644 --> 00:52:37,044
You would hope.

733
00:52:37,144 --> 00:52:38,644
The high-quality sons.

734
00:52:39,744 --> 00:52:40,484
It's wild.

735
00:52:42,324 --> 00:52:44,624
Yeah, I was really, there was a documentary.

736
00:52:44,624 --> 00:52:47,044
All these surrogated kids?

737
00:52:47,544 --> 00:52:47,944
Probably.

738
00:52:48,784 --> 00:52:49,624
Gosh, dude.

739
00:52:50,644 --> 00:52:57,844
Yeah, and I think they get the eggs of models,

740
00:52:58,684 --> 00:53:02,324
and they pair their own DNA with it and stuff.

741
00:53:02,464 --> 00:53:04,344
I think they do stuff like that.

742
00:53:04,424 --> 00:53:06,564
I knew one guy when I used to do IT.

743
00:53:06,564 --> 00:53:10,304
He didn't have a surrogate, but he did.

744
00:53:11,524 --> 00:53:12,404
What do you call that?

745
00:53:13,384 --> 00:53:14,484
He wanted twins.

746
00:53:14,764 --> 00:53:15,784
He wanted twin girls.

747
00:53:16,384 --> 00:53:18,004
So what they did is they went to a thing,

748
00:53:18,004 --> 00:53:27,764
and then they like put that in his wife's whatever and then like out came the twins and then he told

749
00:53:27,764 --> 00:53:32,484
us this after i had met the kids and i remember thinking i was like those kids are kind of odd

750
00:53:32,484 --> 00:53:37,664
but i didn't know like instinctively i was like oh they look they seem kind of odd but i didn't know

751
00:53:37,664 --> 00:53:41,604
why because they were twins or no because i just i just thought they were just kind of odd there

752
00:53:41,604 --> 00:53:47,384
was something off by them and it was just more instinctual but then like afterwards like i think

753
00:53:47,384 --> 00:53:50,904
it was probably like three weeks later he was like it was when we were like he was just like

754
00:53:50,904 --> 00:53:55,204
in our little group and he was just like talking and then we're talking about something and then

755
00:53:55,204 --> 00:54:00,704
that's when he said what i just said and i was just like oh that makes a lot of sense now

756
00:54:00,704 --> 00:54:06,364
but i didn't say anything because that's right most people are most people have an instinctual

757
00:54:06,364 --> 00:54:13,224
feeling about twins in general like um no identical twins oh you've met i haven't met

758
00:54:13,224 --> 00:54:18,284
many identical twins in my life yeah but he wanted that he was telling a soul story but i

759
00:54:18,284 --> 00:54:22,484
remember thinking like oh wow i did have like a weird feeling about these kids like when i met

760
00:54:22,484 --> 00:54:29,104
them the first time they just didn't seem like you know like of this earth type of thing no i'm

761
00:54:29,104 --> 00:54:34,984
sure they're fine i just wonder what but uh like did you see this one that's a weird that's kind of

762
00:54:34,984 --> 00:54:39,344
that's kind of that seems kind of strange to go out of your way to have twins he was that kind of

763
00:54:39,344 --> 00:54:43,724
guy he was like in the military and stuff that's interesting that's kind of that's kind of cool

764
00:54:43,724 --> 00:54:48,384
i don't like it or you know like to have he had a wife though i know but his wife probably his

765
00:54:48,384 --> 00:54:52,724
wife was on board with it yeah yeah but that's like kind of cool they aligned on but he was one

766
00:54:52,724 --> 00:54:56,784
of those guys that got everything he wanted like i remember like because he didn't work with us that

767
00:54:56,784 --> 00:55:00,524
long and then he got another job somewhere else but he was one of those guys that would say i'm

768
00:55:00,524 --> 00:55:05,484
gonna do this and then do this and then do this and then he would just do it it was just very much

769
00:55:05,484 --> 00:55:14,004
like um just matter of fact that's cool so just a man in charge wants twin girls i mean that's

770
00:55:14,004 --> 00:55:19,004
specific so i wonder how they had the twin girls feel about it though because i know something they

771
00:55:19,004 --> 00:55:22,964
knew like they probably don't know they probably know eventually a lot of twins don't like when

772
00:55:22,964 --> 00:55:27,404
they get older but even elon musk is doing this look that's intentionally having twins

773
00:55:27,404 --> 00:55:33,644
donald trump right there he was a surrogate wait what no i'm just kidding uh he's like yeah he's

774
00:55:33,644 --> 00:55:37,864
intentionally doing the same thing with well he's trying to have a lot of kids with women yeah but

775
00:55:37,864 --> 00:55:42,084
that's not the same as having twins well no i'm not talking about the twins saying the same thing

776
00:55:42,084 --> 00:55:46,784
as other billionaires are doing in china no i was and i was gonna say before there was a documentary

777
00:55:46,784 --> 00:55:55,044
about men who go around to sperm banks and just give out an abundance of spooge like all around

778
00:55:55,044 --> 00:55:58,884
everywhere and just keep donating and keep donating and keep donating to the point where

779
00:55:58,884 --> 00:56:02,684
they have hundreds of children i feel like you're gonna get me down to talk about something i don't

780
00:56:02,684 --> 00:56:07,424
want to talk about but but it's so interesting and there's a guy i guess the guy from telegram

781
00:56:07,424 --> 00:56:11,324
the founder of telegram he also does this all right stackers if you're listening this for the

782
00:56:11,324 --> 00:56:18,544
men women close your ears get ready our seed your seed is very important like very important

783
00:56:18,544 --> 00:56:22,824
i don't know about mine but um like you talk about rabbit holes i went down this rabbit hole

784
00:56:22,824 --> 00:56:27,584
we talk about it sometimes we don't have to share all of it keon so but i will say like dude conserve

785
00:56:27,584 --> 00:56:32,624
your seed man oh you're talking about retention i'm talking about conserving your seed like you

786
00:56:32,624 --> 00:56:36,604
can't just be out there just giving out your seed to everybody is that what it looks like

787
00:56:36,604 --> 00:56:43,624
no but i'm saying even having that that self-discipline to not do that as well too

788
00:56:43,624 --> 00:56:47,884
is also important because that's something that helps your creativity it helps your

789
00:56:47,884 --> 00:56:54,924
your spinal cord like if you look into it like the the seed that you have as a man

790
00:56:54,924 --> 00:56:59,164
it can it can produce life man yeah that's all i'm saying it's very important

791
00:56:59,164 --> 00:57:04,744
yeah the brain has gray matter so don't just give it to a sperm bank that's diluting your

792
00:57:04,744 --> 00:57:15,044
white matter too yeah but i i i don't know it's like a gangus khan syndrome like i can like the

793
00:57:15,044 --> 00:57:20,304
the guys who oh this the chinese billionaires there's i think a little bit not no i didn't

794
00:57:20,304 --> 00:57:25,124
mean this racially but like even for like the telegram founder or any of the guys who like

795
00:57:25,124 --> 00:57:31,024
donate a lot like elon musk i think there is like a little bit of like part of that part of elon

796
00:57:31,024 --> 00:57:35,804
musk is concerned about the population and i buy that but i think another i think it just feels good

797
00:57:35,804 --> 00:57:40,284
to have copies of yourself everywhere i think i think he's just playing the odds right like he's

798
00:57:40,284 --> 00:57:45,804
just saying that one of these has to run my company one day i need it that's part of i think

799
00:57:45,804 --> 00:57:49,004
that's what he's doing like elon elon musk especially i don't know about these other

800
00:57:49,004 --> 00:57:53,724
billionaires but i would imagine elon musk is looking for somebody to pass the baton to i must

801
00:57:53,724 --> 00:57:58,664
feel like he doesn't he doesn't do i feel like he isn't that kind of like nepotistic type of

802
00:57:58,664 --> 00:58:03,604
billionaire it seems like he i don't i don't imagine he runs it doesn't seem like he runs

803
00:58:03,604 --> 00:58:07,724
his companies like they're an empire it seems like he's just destroying himself by running

804
00:58:07,724 --> 00:58:12,684
i would think so i mean all the other billionaire billionaires have done that whether it was ford

805
00:58:12,684 --> 00:58:17,044
or like even the walton i feel like a lot of them are not like i feel like elon is like a

806
00:58:17,044 --> 00:58:22,544
weirder one where it's like a sort of self-sacrifice type maybe he's trying to go to

807
00:58:22,544 --> 00:58:26,844
mars and just have leave his kids there just stuff them there to start population yeah maybe

808
00:58:26,844 --> 00:58:33,724
wants to start a whole new race a whole new alien race come back time travel anyway but uh anyways

809
00:58:33,724 --> 00:58:38,144
i guess that's also part of the motivation for the chinese bill was to continue their empire so

810
00:58:38,144 --> 00:58:45,644
wumble did have a question here he said a real issue or non-issue for the usa oh for chinese

811
00:58:45,644 --> 00:58:52,164
billionaires to be like uh occupying all these wombs like with their own seed i don't hear anything

812
00:58:52,164 --> 00:58:53,744
Let's go into detail. He just said real issue.

813
00:58:53,944 --> 00:58:58,084
USA, USDA grade American seed.

814
00:58:58,244 --> 00:59:00,444
Do you think it's a real issue or not an issue for the USA?

815
00:59:02,244 --> 00:59:04,484
I don't know. Is there a womb shortage?

816
00:59:05,964 --> 00:59:09,184
Like, are we, do we have like, is it like housing supply issues?

817
00:59:09,184 --> 00:59:12,324
Is it like a NIMBY thing? What is going on? Like, I don't,

818
00:59:13,064 --> 00:59:15,904
I suspect it's not much of an issue.

819
00:59:16,184 --> 00:59:17,984
Maybe it drives up the price a little bit.

820
00:59:18,904 --> 00:59:19,204
I mean,

821
00:59:19,204 --> 00:59:21,584
you would hope that a lot of people that are getting surrogates either

822
00:59:21,584 --> 00:59:25,044
they have a medical need for them

823
00:59:25,044 --> 00:59:26,604
or some other reason to need them

824
00:59:26,604 --> 00:59:29,724
other than they want an 11th child

825
00:59:29,724 --> 00:59:31,824
to be raised by a nanny.

826
00:59:34,364 --> 00:59:35,584
That's what you would kind of hope.

827
00:59:37,584 --> 00:59:38,944
Otherwise, I don't really know

828
00:59:38,944 --> 00:59:40,004
why it's much of it.

829
00:59:40,064 --> 00:59:43,104
I think it could be a real issue in America

830
00:59:43,104 --> 00:59:45,424
if it catches on and people start doing that here.

831
00:59:46,464 --> 00:59:47,964
I think that's a real issue.

832
00:59:48,124 --> 00:59:50,944
You lose all sorts of family dynamics with that.

833
00:59:51,584 --> 00:59:57,964
um like you you import that kind of thinking here i see i could that's where that's the only thing i

834
00:59:57,964 --> 01:00:05,524
can see um just answering the question that one had yeah if you're abusing your access to surrogates

835
01:00:05,524 --> 01:00:11,384
i could see that becoming a problem like culturally being a problem but i also you know some i think

836
01:00:11,384 --> 01:00:15,804
it just makes sense for some people where the woman doesn't want to carry the the child for

837
01:00:15,804 --> 01:00:23,464
whatever reason or can't and you know that seems i'm glad it's legal i'm glad people have access to

838
01:00:23,464 --> 01:00:30,004
that without having to do weird things yeah the other one the other wumbles picks that he had was

839
01:00:30,004 --> 01:00:36,124
doubt about private channels this is uh in the bitcoin beginners territory uh three comments

840
01:00:36,124 --> 01:00:42,624
110 cents keon what do you think this what do you think about this yeah so it looks like

841
01:00:42,624 --> 01:00:45,284
someone with the NIM3B

842
01:00:45,284 --> 01:00:47,544
has a private channel

843
01:00:47,544 --> 01:00:49,604
and they're wondering how it works when they receive

844
01:00:49,604 --> 01:00:51,464
SATs and whether they need to have

845
01:00:51,464 --> 01:00:55,684
the person who's paying them needs to have a private

846
01:00:55,684 --> 01:00:57,184
channel or what needs

847
01:00:57,184 --> 01:00:59,524
do they need to have a direct channel with whoever

848
01:00:59,524 --> 01:01:00,184
is paying them

849
01:01:00,184 --> 01:01:03,644
and the main thing

850
01:01:03,644 --> 01:01:05,364
to know about private

851
01:01:05,364 --> 01:01:07,644
like private channels, private lightning

852
01:01:07,644 --> 01:01:08,224
nodes is

853
01:01:08,224 --> 01:01:11,464
the sense in which they're private

854
01:01:11,464 --> 01:01:14,644
is that you don't announce that your node exists to the rest of the network.

855
01:01:14,804 --> 01:01:18,764
So if I'm running another node that's independent of your node,

856
01:01:19,904 --> 01:01:23,664
and your node is, you only have private channels,

857
01:01:24,124 --> 01:01:27,264
you don't announce your channels to me.

858
01:01:27,344 --> 01:01:28,884
I'm not aware that your channel exists.

859
01:01:29,064 --> 01:01:30,704
So when you request payment from me,

860
01:01:31,204 --> 01:01:33,304
I don't know even where you are on the network.

861
01:01:33,444 --> 01:01:35,564
I don't know who your channel partners are.

862
01:01:35,644 --> 01:01:36,824
I don't know how to get money to you.

863
01:01:36,824 --> 01:01:41,444
So that's kind of, I guess, the nature of a private channel.

864
01:01:41,464 --> 01:01:48,784
so when you but you but a lot of people have private channels most mobile nodes actually

865
01:01:48,784 --> 01:01:54,504
you know finks if you're using finks on on mobile you're you have a private channel directly with

866
01:01:54,504 --> 01:02:02,464
async their um phoenix is lsp um and you said sphinx you mean phoenix phoenix i'm sorry that

867
01:02:02,464 --> 01:02:11,924
was 2020 uh brain slip um yeah so uh when you but when you so when you request payments to your

868
01:02:11,924 --> 01:02:17,944
phoenix wallet what you in the invoice you communicate that the payer should send money

869
01:02:17,944 --> 01:02:27,604
to async phoenix's lsp uh and then phoenix's lsp knows how to get the the rest of the like the

870
01:02:27,604 --> 01:02:32,704
payment the rest of the way that last mile to you on your private channel. And so that's basically

871
01:02:32,704 --> 01:02:39,204
what is going on. DarthCoin communicates that you can create a key send. You can create a key send,

872
01:02:39,804 --> 01:02:44,124
I guess the person paying you can create a key send, perhaps if you give them the hints of how

873
01:02:44,124 --> 01:02:48,344
to get to your node. But I don't know exactly how you do that. It'd probably be somewhat of

874
01:02:48,344 --> 01:02:52,984
a manual process. But when you have private channels, by default, your node will create

875
01:02:52,984 --> 01:03:10,496
these routing hints these hops that people will go through to pay you And so it actually not not not you shouldn be concerned that you won be able to get payments because your channels are private you just won route people won route through you that the main

876
01:03:10,496 --> 01:03:17,316
difference the other you get a question too with this one this is wumble's question what are private

877
01:03:17,316 --> 01:03:22,296
channels and should the pleb note operator consider doing private channels okay so we

878
01:03:22,296 --> 01:03:28,196
described what private channels are right um what should they do with private channels or no he said

879
01:03:28,196 --> 01:03:35,716
should he said womble's question was um should the pleb note operator consider doing private channels

880
01:03:35,716 --> 01:03:42,656
uh well it depends on why they're running the channel um if they're they want to route stats

881
01:03:42,656 --> 01:03:49,316
and earn quote-unquote yield uh from routing other people's money through their node then you should

882
01:03:49,316 --> 01:03:56,636
make those channels public. I don't, as far as I know, there's no way to otherwise get, uh,

883
01:03:56,676 --> 01:04:01,816
sats routed through you. Um, but if you're just, if you're like, if you're looking to receive money

884
01:04:01,816 --> 01:04:08,996
and kind of don't want your node to be well known on the broader lightning network, uh, yeah,

885
01:04:08,996 --> 01:04:13,496
I think you, you should run a private channel. I think most people, most, the way they're using

886
01:04:13,496 --> 01:04:18,456
lightning should probably only have private channels. There are other reasons to have

887
01:04:18,456 --> 01:04:23,976
private channels like stacker news's node has private channels with a few key nodes um

888
01:04:23,976 --> 01:04:30,756
because we know a lot of our customers have accounts with those nodes and we don't want

889
01:04:30,756 --> 01:04:38,776
other people in the lightning network um using that liquidity when we want it we kind of want

890
01:04:38,776 --> 01:04:43,636
it reserved for our customers and we want to know it's there um so that's like another reason to have

891
01:04:43,636 --> 01:04:50,076
private channels at least one way that i found myself using them but i think yeah read it arthur

892
01:04:50,076 --> 01:04:58,096
read darth coins guides if he hasn't already ordered you to do it yeah good posts good wumbles

893
01:04:58,096 --> 01:05:06,196
picks this week too one spicy one one um informative one uh i think that's all the

894
01:05:06,196 --> 01:05:12,636
posts we have this week we're gonna jump into well let's go this let's go to the zine first

895
01:05:12,636 --> 01:05:14,996
so Plead Poet dropped a zine right before the show

896
01:05:14,996 --> 01:05:17,076
this one's called It's Frosty Holiday

897
01:05:17,076 --> 01:05:18,836
with Snacker News

898
01:05:18,836 --> 01:05:20,516
yeah

899
01:05:20,516 --> 01:05:21,896
what do you think about this Keon?

900
01:05:22,236 --> 01:05:22,976
pretty cool

901
01:05:22,976 --> 01:05:26,796
Plead Poet told me that she made a bunch of paper

902
01:05:26,796 --> 01:05:28,716
snowflakes

903
01:05:28,716 --> 01:05:30,136
I think is what they're called

904
01:05:30,136 --> 01:05:30,576
whatever

905
01:05:30,576 --> 01:05:33,536
and yeah

906
01:05:33,536 --> 01:05:35,456
those are all featured in the zine

907
01:05:35,456 --> 01:05:38,036
so you can see some handmade snow

908
01:05:38,036 --> 01:05:40,076
oh right there

909
01:05:40,076 --> 01:05:41,696
yeah there you go on the back right there

910
01:05:41,696 --> 01:05:44,576
I guess there are other places where they appear,

911
01:05:44,676 --> 01:05:48,096
where they're quite small and just kind of don't really appear as snowflakes,

912
01:05:48,216 --> 01:05:51,316
but she was proud enough to mention them.

913
01:05:51,936 --> 01:05:52,896
So I mentioned them to you.

914
01:05:52,956 --> 01:05:58,976
I haven't taken a look at this issue yet, but I think, oh yeah,

915
01:05:58,976 --> 01:06:02,196
there's a gift basket that someone shared on Agora that they're selling.

916
01:06:03,296 --> 01:06:06,736
Froster's release, which was shared last Friday.

917
01:06:09,016 --> 01:06:10,896
Yeah, really cool stuff.

918
01:06:11,696 --> 01:06:19,256
uh if you want to check out the rest of it definitely get yourself a zine and um yeah

919
01:06:19,256 --> 01:06:27,276
really cool stuff the other one was meta you had like two meta things this week one of them was a

920
01:06:27,276 --> 01:06:33,976
snacker news release um what's this one kian yeah so we've been sort of teasing the editor for a bit

921
01:06:33,976 --> 01:06:39,296
um we thought it would be done about or we we planned on having it done about a month ago

922
01:06:39,296 --> 01:06:43,756
because it was basically a feature complete about a month ago.

923
01:06:43,796 --> 01:06:46,256
And then we realized there was this one part of it that we wanted to redo.

924
01:06:46,256 --> 01:06:52,696
And so this release primarily features that thing that we wanted to redo,

925
01:06:52,976 --> 01:06:57,816
which is where we convert Markdown into this WYSIWYG format.

926
01:06:59,276 --> 01:07:01,376
You can kind of imagine you have a Markdown document.

927
01:07:01,476 --> 01:07:05,576
You're trying to make it so that it looks like something on Google Docs looks like.

928
01:07:06,856 --> 01:07:09,116
And so that's what this release does.

929
01:07:09,116 --> 01:07:13,116
we basically replaced what was before a static preview

930
01:07:13,116 --> 01:07:17,436
with something that eventually you'll be capable of editing.

931
01:07:20,376 --> 01:07:22,236
And that's, yeah, kind of hidden.

932
01:07:22,416 --> 01:07:22,916
What did that?

933
01:07:23,336 --> 01:07:24,976
Oh, you clicked on that old post.

934
01:07:27,296 --> 01:07:29,396
Yeah, and there were some of the posts this week.

935
01:07:29,496 --> 01:07:33,156
You can see some of the top posts had little bugs in them

936
01:07:33,156 --> 01:07:37,076
from some of this new release.

937
01:07:37,076 --> 01:07:42,456
but otherwise it's been pretty solid and pretty awesome and it has it has a number of advantages

938
01:07:42,456 --> 01:07:48,476
despite being really powerful um yeah i saw this paper clip now now there's just an upload file now

939
01:07:48,476 --> 01:07:52,496
yeah we thought the other the other one was a little confusing we decided a while ago

940
01:07:52,496 --> 01:07:57,216
uh it took us a bit to get around to changing it but the editor it's like he's made it look

941
01:07:57,216 --> 01:08:03,496
a lot the same but otherwise it's complete it's completely new um that's kind of how we plan to

942
01:08:03,496 --> 01:08:09,636
roll out the next stage. I think our next stage, we plan to add a Markdown toolbar to help you with

943
01:08:09,636 --> 01:08:15,536
Markdown. And then after that, we'll make the preview editable. And that will also have a

944
01:08:15,536 --> 01:08:20,316
toolbar and it'll basically be sort of Google Docsy where you can just have rich text that you're

945
01:08:20,316 --> 01:08:25,436
editing. And then after that, we'll start adding new features that we've never had before, which

946
01:08:25,436 --> 01:08:30,776
we already, Sox has already developed a number of those. And this release also has, I think,

947
01:08:30,776 --> 01:08:37,276
a few things we didn't have before one of them is check boxes um which aren't super helpful for us

948
01:08:37,276 --> 01:08:41,116
because like you have this edit window or you can't check them but it could be useful for

949
01:08:41,116 --> 01:08:46,736
communicating something i think another thing is our table of contents got i think it got a makeover

950
01:08:46,736 --> 01:08:54,076
um and now is like collapsible there are probably a few other things that made it into this release

951
01:08:54,076 --> 01:09:02,236
but really cool stuff i remember i remember seeing whizzy wig editors like when squarespace came out

952
01:09:02,236 --> 01:09:09,016
and using them that must have been the early 2000s or whatever it was i remember thinking like oh this

953
01:09:09,016 --> 01:09:15,096
is interesting this is an interesting way to make a post and then everybody kind of adopted it so i

954
01:09:15,096 --> 01:09:21,376
definitely think it's going to lead to more um more posts probably just because it'd be a lot easier to

955
01:09:21,376 --> 01:09:26,736
get your creativeness out yeah but hopefully easier for people to express themselves i don't

956
01:09:26,736 --> 01:09:33,956
feel like they have to learn another markup language to do it um yeah it should be should

957
01:09:33,956 --> 01:09:38,696
be cool and without i think the when we because we did two i think it was two years ago we did

958
01:09:38,696 --> 01:09:43,356
this little beta and i just got scorched in the comment section where people are like don't do this

959
01:09:43,356 --> 01:09:52,716
absolutely not um so this one that one yeah um and i worked on it for two weeks and it still

960
01:09:52,716 --> 01:09:59,476
it still sucked hard enough um i remember that i think i think i don't i don't see a screen yeah

961
01:09:59,476 --> 01:10:05,276
uh screenshot in there maybe uh i don't think i don't know there we go there's some screenshots

962
01:10:05,276 --> 01:10:09,556
i remember this yeah i got some toolbars and then yeah this is rich text right

963
01:10:09,556 --> 01:10:17,876
yeah and this is me attempting to like do basically do what socks perfected in this release where

964
01:10:17,876 --> 01:10:22,176
you take you take the rich text you convert it to markdown you try to convert it back to rich text

965
01:10:22,176 --> 01:10:28,036
uh it was extremely unreliable and that's what you know socks ran into the same issue and then

966
01:10:28,036 --> 01:10:33,796
we're like okay well how would we solve this if we were you know if we were experts what would we do

967
01:10:33,796 --> 01:10:40,556
and we figured out a way to do it um that someone who was specifically designing for this would do

968
01:10:40,556 --> 01:10:45,736
and it works really well and socks made it really nice to be able for us to be able to extend it and

969
01:10:45,736 --> 01:10:53,896
make saccharine things with it um 2023 that was a long time ago yeah i mean not not actually

970
01:10:53,896 --> 01:11:00,576
you can't you you remove the wallet years from where we were working exclusively on wall that's

971
01:11:00,576 --> 01:11:07,756
actually it's only six months ago so yeah yeah pretty interesting i wonder if we talked about

972
01:11:07,756 --> 01:11:15,596
on staggers live i'm sure we did um yeah and then the other one that i wanted to share was one that

973
01:11:15,596 --> 01:11:22,676
and did you see what jimmy posted right before the show so hacker news honest edition so somebody

974
01:11:22,676 --> 01:11:27,836
made this website it's basically where you click on this where it says you know says we broke

975
01:11:27,836 --> 01:11:34,956
the internet because nobody checks dependencies and then you click on it and then it takes you to

976
01:11:35,736 --> 01:11:42,756
oh no that's that's a wrong example here let me go back oh do you not all it's doing is changing

977
01:11:42,756 --> 01:11:46,416
the titles yeah it's changing the title so amazon finally adds a feature that has been standard

978
01:11:46,416 --> 01:11:54,176
since 2005 and then you click on it and then it basically changes the title for for the thing i

979
01:11:54,176 --> 01:11:58,556
thought that was kind of funny well yeah no it's just making it's taking all the hacker news posts

980
01:11:58,556 --> 01:12:04,096
and their and their titles it's like replicating hacker news's front page and it's making snarky

981
01:12:04,096 --> 01:12:09,616
titles in place of the normal yeah how to know when the cops are speed trapping you

982
01:12:09,616 --> 01:12:17,576
and then this is designing a passive lidar detector device um i guess i guess it's a way

983
01:12:17,576 --> 01:12:24,976
it's kind of saying that it's um how do i say it's kind of just being uh snarky a little bit

984
01:12:24,976 --> 01:12:30,616
yeah it's just a it's a kind of a just a fun jokey thing yeah like how how would you how could

985
01:12:30,616 --> 01:12:37,656
you otherwise frame this content in a way that's sort of fun this one politicians who can't use

986
01:12:37,656 --> 01:12:46,096
email try to ban the internet and then it goes into legislation anyways i thought that was

987
01:12:46,096 --> 01:12:54,656
interesting interesting meta it's cool uh the other thing was i think i think that's it i think

988
01:12:54,656 --> 01:13:03,256
that's all the posts that we had today let's jump into top cowboys baby the most popular

989
01:13:03,256 --> 01:13:10,636
segment in bitcoin that everybody i think there's a fight over the weekend wasn't there a fight over

990
01:13:10,636 --> 01:13:14,496
the weekend with darth coin and watching boog arguing about the top cowboys or something

991
01:13:14,496 --> 01:13:16,976
I don't know I wasn't in that fight

992
01:13:16,976 --> 01:13:19,236
It was in the saloon it was for everybody to see

993
01:13:19,236 --> 01:13:20,596
All fights happen in the saloon car

994
01:13:20,596 --> 01:13:21,896
Yeah but it was pretty bad

995
01:13:21,896 --> 01:13:23,596
It got out of hand a little bit

996
01:13:23,596 --> 01:13:26,296
It went like 5 pages deep or whatever

997
01:13:26,296 --> 01:13:27,256
Anyways

998
01:13:27,256 --> 01:13:30,376
Yeah I feel like

999
01:13:30,376 --> 01:13:32,156
Somebody unmasked here

1000
01:13:32,156 --> 01:13:34,536
Was it we all satoshi

1001
01:13:34,536 --> 01:13:35,276
Unmasked

1002
01:13:35,276 --> 01:13:38,676
They changed here

1003
01:13:38,676 --> 01:13:39,696
They might have

1004
01:13:39,696 --> 01:13:41,696
It does look like there might have been

1005
01:13:41,696 --> 01:13:44,336
Yeah I don't know what I call

1006
01:13:44,336 --> 01:13:48,056
the crypto sensor being that high but they've they're pretty high up there people unmasked here

1007
01:13:48,056 --> 01:13:55,296
unmasking right before christmas yeah but uh looks looks pretty stable and i don't know

1008
01:13:55,296 --> 01:14:01,916
we don't know who that is it's not kub it's a great mystery i don't have an idea of who it is

1009
01:14:01,916 --> 01:14:08,396
but it's either i think it's have it down to two people actually three we'll never know

1010
01:14:08,396 --> 01:14:10,356
I guess not

1011
01:14:10,356 --> 01:14:11,716
I think sometimes they

1012
01:14:11,716 --> 01:14:13,116
unhat themselves

1013
01:14:13,116 --> 01:14:13,756
or they

1014
01:14:13,756 --> 01:14:15,476
they hat themselves

1015
01:14:15,476 --> 01:14:16,636
on my show

1016
01:14:16,636 --> 01:14:18,196
I don't know

1017
01:14:18,196 --> 01:14:20,656
we got Public Enemy

1018
01:14:20,656 --> 01:14:21,856
number 12

1019
01:14:21,856 --> 01:14:23,156
Coins Reporter

1020
01:14:23,156 --> 01:14:23,816
number 15

1021
01:14:23,816 --> 01:14:24,396
Simple Snacker

1022
01:14:24,396 --> 01:14:25,016
16

1023
01:14:25,016 --> 01:14:25,836
still stack

1024
01:14:25,836 --> 01:14:26,856
Womble 17

1025
01:14:26,856 --> 01:14:27,336
oh wow

1026
01:14:27,336 --> 01:14:28,236
Womble's coming up

1027
01:14:28,236 --> 01:14:28,976
what's that

1028
01:14:28,976 --> 01:14:30,356
oh you're right

1029
01:14:30,356 --> 01:14:30,976
dang

1030
01:14:30,976 --> 01:14:32,136
got Plot Poet

1031
01:14:32,136 --> 01:14:32,796
number 23

1032
01:14:32,796 --> 01:14:35,036
real Bitcoin

1033
01:14:35,036 --> 01:14:35,396
dongy

1034
01:14:35,396 --> 01:14:36,416
haven't seen in a while

1035
01:14:36,416 --> 01:14:41,916
they're sending their health and oh they're pushing goodness yeah the pounds are coming

1036
01:14:41,916 --> 01:14:46,876
back on a little bit they got climbing back up they gotta get shredded again zero x big corner

1037
01:14:46,876 --> 01:14:56,916
33 end of the mic 35 we got nout down there at 38 belt curve 39 are you surprised no one has

1038
01:14:56,916 --> 01:15:02,176
really changed their profile pictures not really i would guess most of them haven't even noticed

1039
01:15:02,176 --> 01:15:06,216
because you don't really see profile pictures on stacker news unless you go visit your profile

1040
01:15:06,216 --> 01:15:14,216
or you're on mobile so i guess that's what we have socks at 47 socks or is this very traumatic

1041
01:15:14,216 --> 01:15:19,896
for them to lose their profile yeah even jimmy song hasn't changed his profile picture or evan

1042
01:15:21,016 --> 01:15:33,736
that's interesting hmm um shock net at 74 and the last one is 02834 number 83 interesting

1043
01:15:33,736 --> 01:15:40,596
yeah and that's the top cowboys this week uh let's jump into

1044
01:15:40,596 --> 01:15:49,656
where is it at oh man i lost it i lost it oh there it goes let's jump into

1045
01:15:49,656 --> 01:15:58,416
um youtube comments this week we had a one from why do gen z have a growing appetite for retro

1046
01:15:58,416 --> 01:15:58,756
tech.

1047
01:16:00,516 --> 01:16:02,416
And this might be coming from a Gen Z

1048
01:16:02,416 --> 01:16:04,396
can. I don't know if you can read that,

1049
01:16:04,456 --> 01:16:04,976
but he says

1050
01:16:04,976 --> 01:16:08,316
he agrees with me,

1051
01:16:08,376 --> 01:16:08,696
basically.

1052
01:16:10,816 --> 01:16:11,956
Is that what he said?

1053
01:16:14,096 --> 01:16:14,536
Yep.

1054
01:16:16,956 --> 01:16:18,376
He said, modern tech

1055
01:16:18,376 --> 01:16:18,856
does

1056
01:16:18,856 --> 01:16:22,436
it explain to you that you don't

1057
01:16:22,436 --> 01:16:24,516
own it. Netflix takes away the TV shows you're watching,

1058
01:16:24,516 --> 01:16:26,196
game companies shut down servers

1059
01:16:26,196 --> 01:16:28,036
that you're playing, Microsoft Forces updates,

1060
01:16:28,036 --> 01:16:34,376
you say no to retro check does none of that if you buy it you own it it doesn't record your

1061
01:16:34,376 --> 01:16:39,576
conversation it doesn't force ads on you well some blu-rays do i had to sit through a couple

1062
01:16:39,576 --> 01:16:46,136
ads on a blu-ray the other day really yeah holy crap like trailers or no real ads no it was just

1063
01:16:46,136 --> 01:16:51,976
like it was on the fast and furious blu-ray it's kind of a bummer anyways other than that i mean

1064
01:16:51,976 --> 01:16:57,236
it's fine because you can't skip it either um compared to speaking docks that you are fast and

1065
01:16:57,236 --> 01:17:02,556
furious on blu-ray dude it was fast furious kind of day i was i was talking about it like because

1066
01:17:02,556 --> 01:17:09,336
there's a scene there's a scene where you literally let me see if i can find it which

1067
01:17:09,336 --> 01:17:13,776
days are fast and furious days that's what i want to know well what mood should i be looking for a

1068
01:17:13,776 --> 01:17:19,936
fast and furious look so it's this scene right here like so this scene in fast and furious

1069
01:17:19,936 --> 01:17:26,856
i can't do it anyway there's this whole scene where he's like he's like they get in a

1070
01:17:26,856 --> 01:17:31,656
lamborghini or whatever and then they're in a skyscraper and then they're like jumping

1071
01:17:31,656 --> 01:17:38,696
skyscrapers and then paul walker's last one and he goes cars don't fly dom and dom's like watch

1072
01:17:38,696 --> 01:17:44,556
this bro hold my beer and he jumps over the skyscraper and you think one's enough no he

1073
01:17:44,556 --> 01:17:52,256
goes for the second one two skyscrapers two skyscrapers anyways yeah you only get that on

1074
01:17:52,256 --> 01:17:57,736
blu-ray that's pretty cool yeah i did they did turn into like the avengers with cars like that's

1075
01:17:57,736 --> 01:18:02,156
basically they go to space yeah i don't know if they're making another one they should they should

1076
01:18:02,156 --> 01:18:06,216
just finish off the because it left with a cliffhanger i don't know if you know this but

1077
01:18:06,216 --> 01:18:11,516
the only way it can go is left with a cliffhanger they like it becomes like uh back to the future

1078
01:18:11,516 --> 01:18:16,376
where they like oh they go back in time yeah they turn their car into like a time traveling car yeah

1079
01:18:16,376 --> 01:18:22,836
i feel like they could just do like a you know just like go back to the roots no not even that

1080
01:18:22,836 --> 01:18:27,696
i feel like they could just do like a um like a show it should just be a show like fast furious

1081
01:18:27,696 --> 01:18:31,676
the show or something like a netflix show or something i mean they have the budget

1082
01:18:31,676 --> 01:18:36,236
yeah i just like i think what i liked about the first movie i think what most people liked about

1083
01:18:36,236 --> 01:18:40,936
the first movie was the like underground car culture like that was like cool but then it

1084
01:18:40,936 --> 01:18:45,196
turned it just turned into like yeah i think that's more vin diesel than anything like he's

1085
01:18:45,196 --> 01:18:50,596
like trying to make it big familia that's the whole thing of the movie it's about is he like

1086
01:18:50,596 --> 01:18:54,156
an important is he making a lot of decisions behind this i think i think he does make a lot

1087
01:18:54,156 --> 01:18:59,916
of decisions by the scenes from from what i've read okay anyways but yeah he's right what do

1088
01:18:59,916 --> 01:19:06,616
you think about this what do you think about this guy who uh or lady said um you know um

1089
01:19:06,616 --> 01:19:12,956
yeah i definitely i don't own it i definitely agree that you own stuff that you own uh i you

1090
01:19:12,956 --> 01:19:20,376
But I think there are trade-offs being made when you have to carry around a DVD collection and that kind of stuff.

1091
01:19:20,476 --> 01:19:25,796
And maybe you'd rather not own something and not have to carry around a DVD collection.

1092
01:19:26,976 --> 01:19:27,736
They're pretty cheap.

1093
01:19:27,796 --> 01:19:28,836
They're like 50 cents nowadays.

1094
01:19:29,916 --> 01:19:32,156
The next one was from, we got the Fountain Commons,

1095
01:19:32,156 --> 01:19:33,396
Zapp, stay in your lane.

1096
01:19:33,576 --> 01:19:35,756
And then Undisputed says, challenge accepted car.

1097
01:19:36,416 --> 01:19:37,116
What do we agree to?

1098
01:19:37,856 --> 01:19:38,856
What challenge was that?

1099
01:19:39,416 --> 01:19:39,816
I don't know.

1100
01:19:39,896 --> 01:19:42,156
I think you guys are going to arm wrestle.

1101
01:19:42,536 --> 01:19:43,976
I remember challenge accepted.

1102
01:19:44,136 --> 01:19:46,576
Was this the one where you're ripping him on the podcast?

1103
01:19:47,596 --> 01:19:48,116
Was it that one?

1104
01:19:48,596 --> 01:19:49,436
December 16th.

1105
01:19:49,476 --> 01:19:51,156
I don't think I ripped him.

1106
01:19:51,216 --> 01:19:52,136
He's challenging you.

1107
01:19:52,296 --> 01:19:53,936
He didn't even mention me.

1108
01:19:55,016 --> 01:19:57,456
Oh, was this the one where we're going to swap places?

1109
01:19:57,936 --> 01:19:58,696
We're going to swap shows?

1110
01:19:59,596 --> 01:20:00,436
Oh, I think so.

1111
01:20:00,536 --> 01:20:01,436
I think that's what you said.

1112
01:20:01,896 --> 01:20:02,356
I'm down.

1113
01:20:02,636 --> 01:20:03,816
Let us know when's a good one for you all.

1114
01:20:04,416 --> 01:20:05,956
We'll cover Stacker Sports.

1115
01:20:06,656 --> 01:20:08,356
I'll cover Stacker News Live.

1116
01:20:10,776 --> 01:20:11,876
Yeah, it would be kind of funny.

1117
01:20:12,156 --> 01:20:16,336
or maybe we just start off by inviting them on the show first and then they

1118
01:20:16,336 --> 01:20:22,836
you know maybe they can do it maybe undiscipline can come on and be a special guest but he doesn't

1119
01:20:22,836 --> 01:20:28,396
show his face though so we need we need an avatar form or something yeah yeah anyways get a mask

1120
01:20:28,396 --> 01:20:34,896
that's all we got this week keon what do you do this weekend oh boy i think i'm actually going to

1121
01:20:34,896 --> 01:20:39,036
set up my office this week i haven't still haven't done it oh really yeah it's just everything is

1122
01:20:39,036 --> 01:20:46,276
still out of boxes but not anywhere so i think i might have the time this weekend finally and i'm

1123
01:20:46,276 --> 01:20:53,956
looking forward to that yeah not not sitting in a mess every day uh yeah it is way on you after a

1124
01:20:53,956 --> 01:20:59,876
while like me me and austin cleaned up our whole site over here so it looks way better now yeah

1125
01:20:59,876 --> 01:21:04,716
definitely get more work done this way exactly there's like nothing it feels like you got

1126
01:21:04,716 --> 01:21:10,896
things off your to-do list and you're kind of free um i don't have that feeling right now but

1127
01:21:10,896 --> 01:21:16,856
yeah that's what i plan on doing that's my exciting weekend how about you car i'm gonna

1128
01:21:16,856 --> 01:21:25,776
tomorrow we're like remember i was telling you my um my cousin's um stepdad passed away like i don't

1129
01:21:25,776 --> 01:21:35,736
know like maybe like almost a month ago yeah so they're going to um do his ashes tomorrow

1130
01:21:35,736 --> 01:21:42,476
so i got to do that tomorrow morning i don't know how long that's gonna be but i'll do that on

1131
01:21:42,476 --> 01:21:48,856
saturday and then um church probably on sunday so it's gonna be a very somber weekend i would

1132
01:21:48,856 --> 01:21:53,276
imagine probably gonna be hanging out with my cousins all weekend because um because of all

1133
01:21:53,276 --> 01:22:01,116
that stuff but uh yeah yeah it took it took forever for them to um to give him the ashes

1134
01:22:01,116 --> 01:22:09,036
because apparently like um nowadays like you have to be like clear all sorts of things or whatever

1135
01:22:09,036 --> 01:22:13,116
like paperwork and stuff well it wasn't in that like my cousin was telling me that um

1136
01:22:13,116 --> 01:22:18,836
they had to like verify that it was him and like social security number was out and like all that

1137
01:22:18,836 --> 01:22:22,616
because i guess you could steal identities and stuff like that oh do you think you guys got

1138
01:22:22,616 --> 01:22:29,576
like racially profiled no i think it's just it's a very common name oh that yeah that would make a

1139
01:22:29,576 --> 01:22:33,376
lot of sense yeah so they just wanted it because there's not like a dead body that you can go to

1140
01:22:33,376 --> 01:22:39,456
and like you know verify sooner yeah yeah that kind of makes sense where are you guys spreading

1141
01:22:39,456 --> 01:22:43,456
the ashes or how is that i don't know if i should say because it's like what if somebody shows up

1142
01:22:43,456 --> 01:22:47,516
and then oh i didn't realize it was like a physical i thought it was like the ocean or in a field

1143
01:22:47,516 --> 01:22:49,136
Oh, no, it's here in town.

1144
01:22:49,376 --> 01:22:49,636
Okay.

1145
01:22:50,076 --> 01:22:51,336
Yeah, I'll tell you next week.

1146
01:22:53,156 --> 01:22:54,876
Yeah, we'll see how that goes.

1147
01:22:54,936 --> 01:23:00,276
I've never done one of these before because we usually, in my family or my side of the family,

1148
01:23:00,416 --> 01:23:02,076
we usually bury everybody.

1149
01:23:03,536 --> 01:23:07,976
But yeah, it's for some of our been apart or something like this, but it'll be different.

1150
01:23:09,056 --> 01:23:13,076
Anyways, outside of that, just work probably.

1151
01:23:13,316 --> 01:23:13,916
Some more work.

1152
01:23:15,016 --> 01:23:15,656
Work, work.

1153
01:23:15,656 --> 01:23:15,896
Yeah.

1154
01:23:15,896 --> 01:23:17,676
cool

1155
01:23:17,676 --> 01:23:20,756
stackers have yourself a great weekend

1156
01:23:20,756 --> 01:23:22,376
and then is it Christmas before

1157
01:23:22,376 --> 01:23:24,936
when's Christmas time is it right before

1158
01:23:24,936 --> 01:23:26,756
um

1159
01:23:26,756 --> 01:23:28,956
is it Wednesday or Thursday

1160
01:23:28,956 --> 01:23:31,016
I don't know

1161
01:23:31,016 --> 01:23:31,756
what if it's Friday

1162
01:23:31,756 --> 01:23:33,276
let me check real quick

1163
01:23:33,276 --> 01:23:35,536
stacker news it's Christmas

1164
01:23:35,536 --> 01:23:36,676
Thursday

1165
01:23:36,676 --> 01:23:38,616
Thursday would make

1166
01:23:38,616 --> 01:23:40,316
Thursday

1167
01:23:40,316 --> 01:23:43,016
let me see here

1168
01:23:43,016 --> 01:23:44,916
yeah it is Thursday

1169
01:23:44,916 --> 01:23:46,316
So yeah, I guess we will

1170
01:23:46,316 --> 01:23:47,796
Merry Christmas, Stackers

1171
01:23:47,796 --> 01:23:52,596
Yeah, I guess we'll do it on the 26th

1172
01:23:52,596 --> 01:23:53,956
So we'll do it the day after Christmas

1173
01:23:53,956 --> 01:23:56,116
Boxing Day Stacker News Live

1174
01:23:56,116 --> 01:23:57,196
Yeah

1175
01:23:57,196 --> 01:23:58,356
Cool

1176
01:23:58,356 --> 01:23:59,856
Keon, zap