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This is the first ever Stacker News.

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Hi, I'm Keon. I work at Stacker News.

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You won't know what I see trying

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I won't ask if you forgive me

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I can ask if you accept me

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I won't cry just like I am empty

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I won't know what I can try

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Yeah, so what we're going to do is we're going to recap the top five stories from the week

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and then go over the top five comments and then see what users earned the most this week.

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It'll be really fast and lighthearted.

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We're just going to have fun. We have beer. I have nicotine gum. And we're going to get started.

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IMF urges El Salvador to remove Bitcoin as legal tender. What do you think about this, Keon?

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I don't know anything about the IMF. I know it probably sucks. It sounds like it's... I mean,

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anything having to do with banking probably sucks. And anything that's kind of top down,

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especially at a global level also sounds like it sucks um anyway it makes sense that i'm as far as

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i know the imf like loans a third world country's money we were talking to jimmy song at the last

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bit devs and he was talking he had just visited el salvador and met with like a mexican delegation

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or something that was there and he was saying that what happens with these loans is these loans come

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with strings attached like all money does and what they do is they uh they give them the money

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and they say, hey, you need to have kids in school from like three to five years old or something.

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They tell them their country needs to change the way it operates in order to be eligible for the money.

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So these loans aren't necessarily great for the countries.

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And then they often have hard times paying them back because they might be denominated, say, in U.S. dollars or something

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and they don't have access to U.S. dollars in the money printer.

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So it kind of really distorts these companies.

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That's my understanding of it.

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But I'm kind of a noob when it comes to geopolitical stuff.

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But anyway, Buckele trolled the IMF back.

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There's a link in the comments that Nout shared.

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But Buckele sent them this silly GIF, this silly Simpsons GIF.

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and Bukele doesn't does not care he does not does not give a fuck at all he's uh I think he

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I think he gets it he he's he's trying to move on from the IMF he obviously doesn't like them

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um I don't know what to think of Bukele but yeah do you have any thoughts um yeah I just

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have mad respect for Jimmy uh I think what Jimmy's doing um is amazing um you know um

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I feel like a lot of us, myself, I can only speak for myself.

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I'm a young Bitcoiner.

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I'm a young Bitcoiner and I can only speak for myself.

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And I know that a lot of us, at least for myself, I look up to Jimmy and I look at him like a general in this kind of fight that we're doing.

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and so if he's out there you know doing all these amazing things and he's reporting back

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and like i said like keon said we saw him at bitdesk and he was telling us all these amazing

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things and one of the most interesting things that he told me was you know that they had uh

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his book thank god for bitcoin and uh out there in el salvador but what was interesting is that

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they had it bootlegged. So they had actually transcribed his book, but in Spanish. And what

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was, but these have like a slight different dialect, I would imagine. And then, but it was

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like copies of it. And it was being passed around. There's a lot of Christians there too.

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And I thought that was super touching. We had, he was telling me it was touching for him. And it

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It was definitely touching for me to hear that.

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So I think what Jimmy's doing is very promising.

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And it's very amazing for me to see that Jimmy's out there doing those amazing things.

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And when he comes back and shares a story like that, for me, it's just like super touching.

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And I think that...

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Are you going to cry?

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No, I'm just sharing my thoughts about the story.

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And I think what he's doing is promising.

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And for him, when he comes back and tells us this stuff, like I told you earlier, I feel like us young Bitcoiners are on the front line doing the building, doing this kind of stuff.

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And then we have like the generals, like the Jimmys, the Parkers, the Martys, the Odells, like actually in the back.

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But like telling us what's going on and kind of giving us the direction that we need to know.

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So I just have a lot of respect for those people because they laid the foundation before us.

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So that's kind of my thoughts.

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Absolutely.

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And despite Carr's tone, no one died.

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So anyway, yeah.

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Sorry about the green screen, too, by the way.

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What do you think?

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It's really green, right?

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It's quite green.

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It matches to us.

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We need a sponsor.

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News.

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Live.

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Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.

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It's Friday Live.

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Stacker News Live?

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You like that?

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You're a fan of radio, obviously.

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What does that mean?

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Oh, it is streaming to the Twitter.

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We're streaming to the masses today.

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Today's SNL on Friday.

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Because this is how we do it.

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Stacker News Live, episode two.

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We've upgraded in this detail.

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We're in a concrete basement in the jungle of the Safari.

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Yeah, where Stacker News lives.

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we're in stacker news world today judging by the background this is just an experiment car

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is not so enthusiastic about the experiment but hopefully it works it works out my idea was that

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we could just see more of the site as we were doing and it wouldn't be a little picture in

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picture but it might be too much too noisy visually right is what you're saying let's roll

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yeah it's an experiment so tell us if you don't like it please uh all right so now we didn't win

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We went through all the top posts.

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Now we're going to do the top comments for the week.

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Top comments.

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This is my favorite part of the show because this is where we get to see which stackers out there truly, truly, truly love to give.

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Love to give to fellow stackers who comment.

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What do you got?

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Nicotine gum.

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I just wanted a nicotine gum real quick.

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Okay.

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so these are the top comments of the week and car how long did it take you to develop your radio

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voice car i feel my radio voice yeah you change voices when you open a podcast or when just right

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now you uh i would say uh i've always had it when i started a band like in in my early 20s

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you gotta like put on a persona this is this is all a persona this is not the real car

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yeah that beard is not real i don't know if you guys know this is all persona this is not

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I could rip it off his face.

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If you meet me at ABC or at a pleb lab, this is not the real car.

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Yeah, car is actually a white man.

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He's actually 84 years old.

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You have to put on a persona whenever you do anything public.

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People don't realize that.

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Hi, Mom.

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I guess I need a better persona.

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Yeah, you do.

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I should try.

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You should try.

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What kind of persona should I have?

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It's just basically your normal personality times 20,000.

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I need to turn it up.

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Yeah, turn it up.

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Turn it up.

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All right.

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Go Super Saiyan.

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The next one is this Dolly 2 image generator that's powered by lighting.

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It's at describe.photo.

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No reference of Bitcoin in the URL.

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in prepping for the podcast, I attempted to generate an image.

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I said, a 3D render of Lightning Network News website

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taking over the world during the apocalypse.

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And I got these answers, these images here.

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Not great.

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It looks like some kind of cheesy Russian news network opening.

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So I don't know how to write Dolly prompts.

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Apparently people are like writing books on how to write Dolly prompts now.

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I'm not good at it.

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It's good to see them making more content around Dolly and stuff.

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This is the second one we've seen in what, two weeks?

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Yeah, there was like the other one.

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I don't think, I don't know if it was, maybe it was using Dolly,

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but it was like in a Telegram group.

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And now this one's a website.

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You pay a thousand sats, 250 sats per image generated.

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It is quite a few sats.

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That's a lot of sats for a crappy piece of art.

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but if you were in some stats on stack the news,

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you can come and,

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you know,

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try this out and see,

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send a thousand stats to me.

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I'll make you whatever you want.

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but I think you need to write,

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you need to be very good at writing prompts.

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it's a market for prompts.

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Like you can pay people to generate,

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to like write you a prompt.

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Like you write a natural language.

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That's kind of weird.

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So there needs to be an app for that to get to that?

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Yeah, it's like a weird chain.

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Let's hope this actually works.

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I'm not going to make it.

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was people in the comments talking about they did like the math on it and they're like

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so this is one this crypto coin uh asked uh stacker news to the moon and this is what it

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generated which is pretty good it's a pretty good image um terrible a couple people it didn't work

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Tristan knows how to write prompts. That's why.

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I love that kid. Hopefully he's not

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watching this right now it is you're you're a great human being um yeah cool cool dolly 2

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projects with lightning on top ladies and gentlemen welcome back to another exciting

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episode of stacker news lies happy halloween key tinky winky hello jason is that uh is that

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really key on underneath there no it's me tinky winky and uh i'm a huge fan of stacker news

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and I thought I'd stop by.

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Keon's out of town.

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Trick or treat.

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Oh, thanks.

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Can you even see out of there?

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That was delicious.

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Thank you, Jason.

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You're so nice in person.

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Can you even see out of there?

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Zach Kent said that Twitter and Reddit

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seem pointless now.

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And then a bunch of people kind of chimed in.

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What do you think?

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I don't know if they're pointless yet

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I still use Twitter

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the fact of the matter is

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there aren't as many people on Stacker News yet

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Stacker News becomes more and more compelling

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I already spend most of my time on Stacker News

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but there are people who I want to see thoughts from

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that aren't on Stacker News yet.

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And so I still find myself on Twitter for that kind of stuff.

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It's also a different format, obviously.

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that he's trying to say here,

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which is that it feels silly

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to be spending time on these platforms

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when you could be spending time on Stacker News

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and be earning something for it,

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like something meaningful,

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like greater appreciation than either words

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or fictitious likes.

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Like when you type in,

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like you're looking for something,

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there's just so much information

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that's already stored on Google servers

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as far as like search results.

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And a lot of those come from Reddit and Twitter.

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I think in time, hopefully,

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I think Stacker News and some of these other platforms

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will get a little bit more tightly integrated

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into coming into search results

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and that better information will reach to the top.

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But I think right now that's like one of the biggest things

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that's keeping those platforms alive.

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I think Twitter more so than Reddit is still needed.

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I'm kind of interested to see what Elon's going to do personally.

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I'm not expecting much.

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I'm expecting this amount of improvement.

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But it'll be interesting to see what he does.

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Are you going Nostra November?

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I think I'm going to go Nostra November for car.

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Oh, you mean you're forsaking all social?

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Well, no, not all social.

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Just like I'm jumping off of Twitter, going Nostra November.

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Is that like something people are discussing?

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Yeah, JB55 is doing it.

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Oh, that's cool.

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All the cool kids are doing it.

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Are you going to do it?

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Maybe.

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Yeah, I'm going to do it.

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That way I can just use Noster, use Domus, use Enigma.

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Just use that from all my social stuff in November.

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And I do use Twitter for work, so that's kind of...

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Yeah, you're going to have to get off there.

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You're going to get off? Oh, man.

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Just start tweeting from the Snacker News one.

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All right, I guess I'll have to create a...

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Noster November, let's go.

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Let's go, Stackers.

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Noster.

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Snacker News Live.

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We're in some place across from the Bitcoin conference.

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An undisclosed location.

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Yeah, undisclosed.

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Called Lincoln Eatery that's accepting Bitcoin.

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Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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We're at Lincoln Eatery.

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Michael from Oshie on boarded this whole place like a square block.

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Orange pilled it.

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Orange pilled it.

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This is going to be a quick stack of news because Kion's battery is running out.

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How much you got?

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I got like 16%.

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We had to find a place to do this podcast very quickly.

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And we're here and there's no outlet.

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But we're going to get it done for the stackers.

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For the stackers.

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shout out to now i met now this weekend that was cool that's right we met i met so many people here

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it's uh amazing a lot of stackers in person for the first time i don't know how many i i ran into

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at least 10 people 10 10 people you met you ran into more than i did how is that possible i don't

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know there's a lot of stackers they wanted the hat everybody recognized the hat i see i don't know

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why they didn't come to me i don't think i'm as friendly looking as you i think that's what it is

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Yeah. No, but no, honestly, all the Sackers were out representing here at the Bitcoin conference in Miami and ready to jump into it.

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We are. Yeah, let's jump into it. Let's go.

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The next story is what we're talking about is Tarot.

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So Lightning Labs released a basically a new spec for providing assets that aren't Bitcoin over the Lightning Network or or sending assets that aren't Bitcoin over the Lightning Network.

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Biggest news of the conference, in my opinion.

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Yeah, I think so, too.

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I mean, there was a lot of big announcements.

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There was all the Jack Mallard stuff with NCR and all that kind of.

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This was like the game-changing announcement, I think.

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This one, I think, really, really got a lot of people interested in talking,

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I think, more than all the other things.

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Because the other things were kind of almost like expected things.

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They were all things we were predicting.

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Even the Samson Mao stuff, we all kind of expected.

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We kind of knew that.

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We knew Jack was going to come in and do an announcement.

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Exactly.

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We knew it was going to be big, but we knew it was going to be an announcement.

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The tarot stuff is what everybody's talking about.

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It was the most surprising.

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At their Airbnbs.

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You know what I mean?

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This is the stuff that everybody's speculating on.

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Yeah.

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No, absolutely.

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Can you explain it to the stackers really quickly?

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And then, yeah, basically within within if you have a on your lightning node, you can open a channel that is.

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Aware of assets that aren't Bitcoin.

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Or no, you you you you you yeah, you open you open a channel that is aware of assets that aren't Bitcoin and you can send those assets across the network to another person who's aware of assets.

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that aren't Bitcoin,

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who wants to receive them.

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But all the nodes in between

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don't actually have to be aware

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that you're sending assets

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that aren't Bitcoin

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across the network.

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It just...

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So...

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Basically, it just allows you

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to send things like stable coins

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across the Lightning Network.

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That's really like

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the fundamental thing.

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And what everybody's kind of

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hinting at.

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And other types of assets,

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you know, shit coins, NFTs,

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whatever you want.

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Yeah.

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There's some...

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There's some talk about being able to do more generic programming things within Tarot.

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Apparently, you can send these assets along with perhaps some contract to execute on the asset.

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But I was reading some threads on Twitter today that suggests that you wouldn't be able to do arbitrarily powerful smart contract things.

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Yeah, I think there's a lot of things that we were kind of playing it out maybe yesterday evening.

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and kind of looking at where it all kind of goes to.

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And at that point, we all decided, or at least some of us decided that,

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hey, there might be kind of like you have like on-chain maximalists

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and then you might have, I don't know,

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I feel like a Civil War is coming with this coming.

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Yeah.

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Whenever this does happen, like we just kind of played it out,

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stackers, and looked to where it was going to go.

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And a lot of us kind of agreed like there might be like on-chain maximalists

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and there might be like, you know, this new lightning thing.

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It's certainly an inflection point.

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Yes, for sure.

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And that's where like the big – I haven't talked to enough people yet

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like to really get the – so I'm still – I don't want to reserve my like opinion yet,

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but like it's a game changer.

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This is the biggest news of the week in my opinion.

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Like besides the mining stuff that's coming out of there

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because there's a good signal about mining.

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Yeah, this seems like really big news.

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I haven read the bips or anything so I not too certain I did see Roast Beef talk on Tarot and hear that so I have a bit of a grip on it

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What are people saying in the comments? Anything?

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Really interesting. I mean, a lot of people are like, I don't want to route shit coins.

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This is kind of the civil war point.

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Civil war, yeah.

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There was an interesting tweet on Twitter that went around.

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I think it was like there's this is going to divide people between network maximalists and asset maximalists.

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And so the shit point, the people who are like, I don't want to send anything that isn't Bitcoin across the lightning network.

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Those would be like asset maximalists.

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And so there might be other people, though, who are more so network maximalists and more so believe in Bitcoin, the blockchain being legitimate.

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And they're comfortable with the tokens on there.

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And like we had a person like that in our group where it was like they were a network Bitcoin protocol network maximalist.

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Yeah. And it's fascinating. Yeah. It'll divide people.

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And I wonder if there will be when we get into the Civil War, if there will be those those routing nodes in between the tarot nodes,

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if they actually prevent tarot from getting routed.

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That's a thing. I bet you might not actually be able to detect it at all, though, given the way the way.

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messages on the lightning network are constructed they're in this onion encrypted thing so you might

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not be able to tell you probably you actually you wouldn't be able to tell that it's actually

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happening so they couldn't they actually have no defense at all but maybe maybe you maybe maybe

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they would start attacking uh tarot notes you didn't tell me this last night you were waiting

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for the show no no i'm just very i'm just like you said there will be a civil war and i'm like

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what would actually happen in a civil war i'm not sure there are many technological attacks because

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the lightning network is is fairly private from a sender's perspective um wow i'm just kind of

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thinking that through right now stackers let us know in the booths what you think or or on

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sacker news under this thread i'm with my best friend kian what's up car hi hey great week in

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bitcoin wasn't it dude it was a building week in bitcoin basically the big one of the biggest news

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items of the week is that jack dorsey got on no stir uh and funded no stir with 14 bitcoin

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um which is like a lot of money uh i mean a lot of bitcoin for for us us us in the satoshi

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generation um satoshi generation i like that yeah where where uh full bitcoins oh i don't know but

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we stack sets, but Jack has stacked Bitcoin as a billionaire. And he donated 14 Bitcoin to

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Nostar. He just gave it, as far as I understand, he just sent it straight to

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Fiat Joff. And Fiat Joff wrote up like how he plans to divvy it out and stuff. I assume you're

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a little deeper on this because this is your top story. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, you know,

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I think we've already kind of seen where it's come out.

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I mean, obviously, I had William on this week on Thriller.

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So we were talking about all of this.

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So definitely check that out.

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But besides that, like, we just seen the, I mean, you've seen it here at Plubb Lab.

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There's just the guys like working on Noster.

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People like working on Noster.

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I like writing about Noster.

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Like, it's become a thing.

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That's just a whole grassroots vibe to it.

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Very reminiscent to Bitcoin.

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But the big things around it is that, yeah, man, there's something special about Nostra and how it can be used as micro apps.

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And that was kind of what our discussion was this week around that.

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And Nostra just, it's this open protocol building that's happened.

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And maybe we're hearkening back to the early days of the web where it's just becoming this.

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And at some point, you just kind of have to look at the writing on the wall and realize, like, this is becoming, I'm not going to use that word, the E word, but, or the, you know, the embeddable, you know, the I word.

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Yeah, it's not that.

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But there is something when you start seeing a group of people do all this stuff for free.

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Like, there's something to that.

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Yeah.

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And so I think that's kind of what's taking place.

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I think also the reason I wanted to talk to William this past week was because of the whole chat GPT3 thing.

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And we were able to discuss that.

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And I think this is where I think when you're doing a startup or you're doing a project, it's good to have these like these pushes every few months, every, you know, every quarter.

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But it's good to throw something new, a new feature out to your users and it gets them reengaged.

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reengaged and and i think nostril november was a lot of building but when he implemented that chat

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gpt three uh thing inside of domus it it it like reengaged a lot of us who maybe had like you know

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fell asleep for a few weeks on on nostril and i think that with all the other proof of work that

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was out there already it's just kind of taken over and um it's good to see jack like dude like

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jack's a real one man like who spends who spends their bitcoin on open source protocol like

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it's crazy dude yeah yeah i mean it's it's a really cool effort and it's nice to see

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no sir get funded i mean i i've been watching no sir since the beginning get super test net

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introduced it to me and who's been a huge uh no stir bull for a long time um and i think i think

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really where it excels is like developer ux is excellent it's just like dead simple protocol very

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very very simple to comprehend uh how it works especially if you have familiarity with like

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a public public key cryptography and like from there it's just it's kind of dead simple any

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any web dev could get into it and then you can layer on really complicated things

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and it's reminiscent of me to something like bitcoin where the base layer people people will

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deride it as like simple and dumb and doesn't really do anything. Um, but you can build layers

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on top of these things and that's where they really become the, the, the products that you,

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that you want them to be. And, uh, it's cool. It's really cool to see someone like Jack. I mean,

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I always, I always imagine, I always imagine there's like a silo around, uh, people like Jack

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and they don't really get ever the truth, um, or like what's actually going on on the ground or

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that trickles up kind of late it has to be like huge massive waves but somehow someone got to him

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with regard to no sir and it's it was cool i mean i think he even put like no stir in his

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in his bio yeah and i also think too it's just um it's it's it's it's it's an everybody kind

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of community where yeah you have to get the developers um working on it and then you have

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to get that has to build over time but then you also need like the media to get behind it and

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write about it to to like explain why it's so so great to work on then you have to do the workshops

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then there has to be like like everybody has to come together in the community and all move

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forward together and and like and keep it about the protocol for it to kind of kind of advance and

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that's literally what happened with Noster it's the same thing it's like everybody

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like everybody contributed in some way or another to seeing it uh get funding and um

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yeah you can you can go through all of this uh and it tells you exactly what these um

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where it's going to get allocated there there's bounties there's community prizes there's even

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documentation and then micro grants of course and then it was cool too because there's a lot of

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people that really worked hard on this and a lot if you scroll all the way to the bottom key on

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under thank yous like it was cool to see that uh fiat joff had allocated like 20 million sats to

473
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the people that had done all the heavy lifting and don't get me wrong there's even more people

474
00:28:40,470 --> 00:28:46,930
he could have added to that list but these were the these were the these were the main um pioneers

475
00:28:46,930 --> 00:28:52,930
of this whole kind of open protocol movement yeah so fiat joff wrote this google doc kind of laying

476
00:28:52,930 --> 00:28:58,810
out how he intends to spend the sats and so he has some really high some like high level things

477
00:28:58,810 --> 00:29:00,290
that he wants to see that he's willing,

478
00:29:00,630 --> 00:29:03,810
that he's going to allocate 200 million sats to

479
00:29:03,810 --> 00:29:07,610
and 40 bounties of,

480
00:29:07,870 --> 00:29:10,610
and 40 bounties of 5 million sats,

481
00:29:11,150 --> 00:29:14,110
a bunch of stuff that he wants to see get done,

482
00:29:14,230 --> 00:29:17,230
things that we all kind of anticipate Noster needs,

483
00:29:17,830 --> 00:29:20,730
additional, like, and a bunch of additional things,

484
00:29:21,150 --> 00:29:23,090
smaller specific tasks, that kind of stuff.

485
00:29:23,090 --> 00:29:24,690
And then, as Carr was saying,

486
00:29:24,910 --> 00:29:28,450
there was an allocation to existing contributors,

487
00:29:28,450 --> 00:29:29,990
is just as like a thank you.

488
00:29:30,070 --> 00:29:31,410
It has like a funny note at the bottom.

489
00:29:31,990 --> 00:29:33,870
This is not a payment for your work of love

490
00:29:33,870 --> 00:29:34,910
because that is priceless.

491
00:29:35,710 --> 00:29:37,910
It is just so your efforts don't go without mention.

492
00:29:38,490 --> 00:29:39,350
It is also terrible

493
00:29:39,350 --> 00:29:42,110
because there were many other valuable contributions

494
00:29:42,110 --> 00:29:43,730
that were not mentioned here

495
00:29:43,730 --> 00:29:45,190
and life is sad as well.

496
00:29:46,230 --> 00:29:46,710
Yeah.

497
00:29:47,190 --> 00:29:49,610
Now, the fact that he even had this at the end

498
00:29:49,610 --> 00:29:51,710
was very thoughtful, I thought.

499
00:29:52,070 --> 00:29:53,850
Yeah, it closed it up nice

500
00:29:53,850 --> 00:29:58,430
and I'm excited to see what comes of the grant.

501
00:29:58,450 --> 00:30:00,330
So when Noster on Stacker News?

502
00:30:01,130 --> 00:30:02,630
When you build it into it.

503
00:30:03,150 --> 00:30:04,770
I get that all the time.

504
00:30:04,970 --> 00:30:06,150
And the project is open source.

505
00:30:06,210 --> 00:30:08,070
If someone wants to make a concrete proposal

506
00:30:08,070 --> 00:30:10,370
for how Noster would integrate with Stacker News,

507
00:30:10,510 --> 00:30:14,470
at this point, I'd be more than willing to entertain it

508
00:30:14,470 --> 00:30:15,710
and have a back and forth on it.

509
00:30:15,750 --> 00:30:18,570
We've had a few people suggest things in passing.

510
00:30:19,410 --> 00:30:20,650
Like maybe you just publish everything

511
00:30:20,650 --> 00:30:22,450
that gets posted on Stacker News onto Noster.

512
00:30:23,290 --> 00:30:25,630
But it's like now I need the private keys

513
00:30:25,630 --> 00:30:28,650
of people who want to post from Stacker News to Noster.

514
00:30:28,950 --> 00:30:30,470
And how does all that work?

515
00:30:30,570 --> 00:30:32,190
If someone could figure that out, that'd be great.

516
00:30:32,250 --> 00:30:34,290
I wouldn't mind duplicating the things

517
00:30:34,290 --> 00:30:35,390
that are on Stacker News there.

518
00:30:35,510 --> 00:30:38,870
I eventually want to pursue Noster

519
00:30:38,870 --> 00:30:41,830
as possibly the protocol that Stacker News

520
00:30:41,830 --> 00:30:42,850
is decentralized on.

521
00:30:43,530 --> 00:30:49,310
And so in that case, it will be natively integrated with it.

522
00:30:49,730 --> 00:30:52,230
But maybe there's an in-between step for us.

523
00:30:52,610 --> 00:30:54,150
Yeah, maybe we could throw out there.

524
00:30:54,150 --> 00:30:59,150
I mean, I'd be willing to go half on like a million dollar bounty to get that process started if you would.

525
00:30:59,990 --> 00:31:00,590
Yeah, I'm down.

526
00:31:00,690 --> 00:31:01,210
That'd be cool.

527
00:31:01,450 --> 00:31:01,850
I'm down.

528
00:31:01,950 --> 00:31:05,150
I'll get posted on Stacker News later and then let's see what kind of.

529
00:31:06,010 --> 00:31:06,990
Yeah, that'd be really cool.

530
00:31:07,430 --> 00:31:09,050
Yeah, we can see what we can get done.

531
00:31:10,250 --> 00:31:17,370
This is this was like I think this this preceded Jack's investment or.

532
00:31:17,630 --> 00:31:18,590
I said million dollar.

533
00:31:18,710 --> 00:31:19,110
I meant million.

534
00:31:19,550 --> 00:31:20,390
Sad bounty.

535
00:31:20,850 --> 00:31:22,190
I just realized what I was like.

536
00:31:22,250 --> 00:31:23,050
Did you say million dollars?

537
00:31:23,050 --> 00:31:24,090
I think I said million dollar.

538
00:31:24,150 --> 00:31:25,310
I don't have everything.

539
00:31:25,430 --> 00:31:26,110
I measure everything.

540
00:31:26,230 --> 00:31:27,270
It says only have Bitcoin.

541
00:31:27,450 --> 00:31:27,670
Yeah.

542
00:31:29,430 --> 00:31:31,170
Jack's jet jet.

543
00:31:31,290 --> 00:31:35,550
What like spearheaded this whole thing was Jack wrote this long post.

544
00:31:35,610 --> 00:31:37,770
I think it started out as a tweet thread,

545
00:31:37,770 --> 00:31:42,090
but he like turned it into like a longer form post on Twitter's like,

546
00:31:42,090 --> 00:31:43,130
I don't know,

547
00:31:43,190 --> 00:31:44,590
newsletter product or whatever.

548
00:31:44,590 --> 00:31:49,450
But he basically describes like why he thinks centralized social media is

549
00:31:49,450 --> 00:31:49,850
broken.

550
00:31:50,630 --> 00:31:51,270
Having,

551
00:31:51,470 --> 00:31:51,850
you know,

552
00:31:51,850 --> 00:31:58,850
been in charge of what many people consider like the most valuable, uh, online, online social media

553
00:31:58,850 --> 00:32:04,490
platform in terms of like free speech, town square. These are the kinds of things you hear people say

554
00:32:04,490 --> 00:32:10,990
with regard to Twitter. And, uh, yeah. So he, you know, he's kind of, he's kind of saying here,

555
00:32:10,990 --> 00:32:15,670
you know, uh, it's hard, it was hard to, more or less he's, you can kind of read between the lines.

556
00:32:15,750 --> 00:32:21,610
He was saying there was, there was on some level, uh, corporate and government control at Twitter.

557
00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:25,210
which is not conducive necessarily to free speech.

558
00:32:27,630 --> 00:32:34,010
The original authors can get their content removed

559
00:32:34,010 --> 00:32:40,810
without being like that happened voluntarily.

560
00:32:42,230 --> 00:32:45,030
And then having done moderation at scale,

561
00:32:45,030 --> 00:32:48,170
he says the best way to kind of mitigate

562
00:32:48,170 --> 00:32:54,790
any conflicts of interest or bias or anything in moderating

563
00:32:54,790 --> 00:32:57,190
is to instead give algorithmic choice

564
00:32:57,190 --> 00:33:00,050
and allow people to choose from a variety of algorithms.

565
00:33:01,190 --> 00:33:03,390
And I thought that was pretty cool.

566
00:33:03,690 --> 00:33:05,650
But it's a pretty lengthy post,

567
00:33:05,730 --> 00:33:07,550
but it's all super relevant and well-written.

568
00:33:08,230 --> 00:33:14,030
And I think Blue Sky and App Protocol and NOSTER

569
00:33:14,030 --> 00:33:17,890
are all attempts to kind of figure this out.

570
00:33:17,890 --> 00:33:29,750
Well, I remember in, what was it, 2021, when he went to the Bitcoin conference and there was people yelling in the audience about like all the things that Twitter was doing.

571
00:33:30,370 --> 00:33:32,710
And then he said, you know, I will fix this.

572
00:33:32,810 --> 00:33:36,230
I remember him specifically saying, I will, we're getting to that.

573
00:33:36,650 --> 00:33:38,910
And then Blue Sky came out and then it got announced.

574
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:42,690
But maybe they're seeing something behind the scenes that they could implement an officer at some sort.

575
00:33:42,770 --> 00:33:46,870
And maybe he's, you know, that's why he's trying to facilitate the growth in both areas.

576
00:33:46,870 --> 00:33:53,070
but if there's anybody that knows this problem better than most, it's him, right?

577
00:33:53,250 --> 00:33:59,150
Like, who else out there in the world would understand that better than him?

578
00:34:00,250 --> 00:34:00,670
Yeah, man.

579
00:34:00,870 --> 00:34:09,530
It's really bullish for Noster, the fact that Jack, you know, funded it.

580
00:34:10,690 --> 00:34:12,590
Yeah, definitely bullish for Noster.

581
00:34:12,590 --> 00:34:18,530
are bullish for just open internet stuff to have someone with big bags like jack uh it also makes

582
00:34:18,530 --> 00:34:23,270
me wonder like where's ev williams and where's these other guys behind the scenes that like

583
00:34:23,270 --> 00:34:28,030
why aren't they getting any of the blame like as far as like where twitter started like it's not

584
00:34:28,030 --> 00:34:31,270
all jack's fault like he wasn't like it's not about where twitter started it's about where it

585
00:34:31,270 --> 00:34:38,590
ended up and jack was jack was ceo through for the last like decade at twitter so he's he takes

586
00:34:38,590 --> 00:34:43,790
he takes most responsibility he even he even uh he like willingly takes responsibility for

587
00:34:43,790 --> 00:34:51,250
uh where twitter ended up and he said i think he says in here that it was it was a an activist

588
00:34:51,250 --> 00:34:56,610
investor that really started to mess things up at twitter um oh wow so it just kind of tells you

589
00:34:56,610 --> 00:35:01,450
like watch who you're taking investment from yeah he said this is my fault alone or they completely

590
00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:08,530
gave up pushing for them when an activist uh entered our stock in 2020 so that's kind of you

591
00:35:08,530 --> 00:35:14,690
know that's that's a public company you can get people maybe who you don't like owning a large

592
00:35:14,690 --> 00:35:20,490
uh votable uh section of your company yeah that jesse powell talked about that on mccormick's

593
00:35:20,490 --> 00:35:27,910
podcast has the first comment he does uh yeah so he said uh he this was on the whatsapp he said

594
00:35:27,910 --> 00:35:30,290
plus one for starting with jobs.

595
00:35:30,370 --> 00:35:31,930
So we got the most upvotes on that one.

596
00:35:32,350 --> 00:35:33,870
Yeah, I think...

597
00:35:33,870 --> 00:35:34,930
You think it's a bad move?

598
00:35:35,350 --> 00:35:38,890
No, I think the fiat sign is a bad move.

599
00:35:40,030 --> 00:35:41,150
The dollar sign.

600
00:35:41,570 --> 00:35:42,770
I'm not sure it's so bad.

601
00:35:43,110 --> 00:35:43,890
I don't have any...

602
00:35:43,890 --> 00:35:46,290
I mean, I don't really...

603
00:35:46,290 --> 00:35:47,710
I think the dollar is trash,

604
00:35:47,810 --> 00:35:50,010
but that's what I think the sign for sats will be.

605
00:35:50,430 --> 00:35:52,770
I think the sign for sats will eventually be the dollar sign.

606
00:35:52,910 --> 00:35:55,330
This is my prediction, my far-up prediction.

607
00:35:55,750 --> 00:35:56,030
Really?

608
00:35:56,030 --> 00:35:59,690
I hate all of the sat signs that have been proposed.

609
00:35:59,790 --> 00:36:00,690
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.

610
00:36:00,790 --> 00:36:01,650
You're going to get into this?

611
00:36:01,730 --> 00:36:05,730
Okay, so what other prediction have you had that came true besides secondaries?

612
00:36:07,810 --> 00:36:09,490
That I would be in Austin.

613
00:36:10,290 --> 00:36:11,010
That was a prediction.

614
00:36:11,390 --> 00:36:14,490
That I would never – that my day-to-day life I would never drive.

615
00:36:14,610 --> 00:36:16,150
That was a prediction I had when I was 14.

616
00:36:16,290 --> 00:36:16,890
That's not a prediction.

617
00:36:17,010 --> 00:36:18,010
You just made that happen.

618
00:36:18,590 --> 00:36:19,270
The prediction is like –

619
00:36:19,270 --> 00:36:20,370
I'm going to make this dollar thing happen.

620
00:36:21,870 --> 00:36:23,410
That's how I make predictions, son.

621
00:36:23,410 --> 00:36:31,190
that's funny okay okay well anyway uh we'll figure out the dollar thing i didn't realize

622
00:36:31,190 --> 00:36:37,030
you had such passionate feelings about it now i want to kill fiat so do i but we kill it by

623
00:36:37,030 --> 00:36:41,750
we're gonna appropriate it we're gonna take it back it's like the n-word but with a dollar sign

624
00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:51,790
dude what all right let's go to the next one all right uh okay uh yeah so kr

625
00:36:51,790 --> 00:37:01,170
um gosh yeah so he said he talks about the jobs board he really likes the idea obviously

626
00:37:01,170 --> 00:37:06,870
uh people really agreed with that and then uh an archio a marketplace a lot of people really

627
00:37:06,870 --> 00:37:11,810
want a marketplace so again there's like some pitfalls to doing this uh it would probably have

628
00:37:11,810 --> 00:37:17,010
to be super moderated because who knows what people are going to sell in a decentralized context

629
00:37:17,010 --> 00:37:23,510
this is less scary of a thing to do because there are perhaps i can't even see what's actually

630
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:28,910
getting sold you're still in trouble and then i don't have any i don't like stacker news doesn't

631
00:37:28,910 --> 00:37:34,570
matter you're still i'd be kind of soon in them doesn't matter yeah i don't know it's scary still

632
00:37:34,570 --> 00:37:39,870
coming to your home yeah you're still getting arrested car is more hip to this kind of thinking

633
00:37:39,870 --> 00:37:46,010
than i am i i didn't actually have so much so many fears around buying and selling but i think

634
00:37:46,010 --> 00:37:50,750
they're i think it's justified to be scary given that ross ulbricht is in prison for life

635
00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:59,930
yeah yeah until russ gets russ russ gets out ross gets out i mean like yeah ross did i say

636
00:37:59,930 --> 00:38:04,210
russ my bad yeah until ross gets out ross which will happen one day once we get a bitcoin president

637
00:38:04,210 --> 00:38:08,910
that would be the first thing they do they better fucking do that well that's who i'll get to change

638
00:38:08,910 --> 00:38:16,750
the dollar sign to a sat sign make sense all right uh we can even have tasks with the dollar sign it

639
00:38:16,750 --> 00:38:23,370
just looks so fiat it just you know what it does this you know that's what it does now i now i see

640
00:38:23,370 --> 00:38:32,810
it now stacker news was a site that was beautiful to look at now it's tainted with dollar signs

641
00:38:32,810 --> 00:38:35,910
So you think there's like a dollar sign

642
00:38:35,910 --> 00:38:37,650
I might have to switch it

643
00:38:37,650 --> 00:38:39,710
I just realized I just see it now

644
00:38:39,710 --> 00:38:41,490
Now that I see it again I can tell you

645
00:38:41,490 --> 00:38:43,550
I can't unsee it it's tainted now

646
00:38:43,550 --> 00:38:44,330
Snackers

647
00:38:44,330 --> 00:38:46,210
Let me know if you agree

648
00:38:46,210 --> 00:38:48,150
Let me know if you agree or disagree

649
00:38:48,150 --> 00:38:51,330
Let me know if you agree or disagree

650
00:38:51,330 --> 00:38:53,850
But like now I can't unsee the dollar sign

651
00:38:53,850 --> 00:38:54,790
It's everywhere

652
00:38:54,790 --> 00:38:57,990
It's subliminal though dude

653
00:38:57,990 --> 00:39:00,090
It's subliminal

654
00:39:00,090 --> 00:39:06,010
well part of it was i wanted people to think about money a little bit

655
00:39:06,010 --> 00:39:09,890
it wasn't i don't want to think about fiat i want them to think about earning money i think

656
00:39:09,890 --> 00:39:15,170
the dollar sign represents more than the dollar do it intentionally then no i don't think the

657
00:39:15,170 --> 00:39:20,750
dollar represents the dollar in my opinion it represents value i i said i associate the dollar

658
00:39:20,750 --> 00:39:25,830
sign with value you associate it with fiat because you have a fiat brain it's okay but uh i'm just

659
00:39:25,830 --> 00:39:31,330
fucking with you but uh i don't care what do you you're actually offended i was kidding i don't get

660
00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:38,730
offended at all but no i'm saying like it's it's it's tainting your site all right i i mean i i'm

661
00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:43,010
i take i i take that i can i can change it to another symbol i think the other i would just

662
00:39:43,010 --> 00:39:47,950
ask the stacker see what they say i don't i don't have any i'm just saying ask them see what they

663
00:39:47,950 --> 00:39:52,890
say maybe maybe they agree with you and then i'm wrong but like you should this is a big change

664
00:39:52,890 --> 00:39:54,990
dude. I don't think you realize how big

665
00:39:54,990 --> 00:39:57,050
of a change that is. You're implementing

666
00:39:57,050 --> 00:39:59,010
a new... I think it's even bigger

667
00:39:59,010 --> 00:40:00,910
change than you bringing

668
00:40:00,910 --> 00:40:03,070
on jobs. Because this is a

669
00:40:03,070 --> 00:40:05,010
new icon that's going to sit there for

670
00:40:05,010 --> 00:40:07,050
the rest of time. We're going to have to

671
00:40:07,050 --> 00:40:07,690
stare at it.

672
00:40:10,190 --> 00:40:10,970
This is like when you

673
00:40:10,970 --> 00:40:12,050
try to do the horn.

674
00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:14,470
It would look like a duck.

675
00:40:14,950 --> 00:40:16,450
Yeah, but I changed that because people

676
00:40:16,450 --> 00:40:19,030
revolted. I'm telling you, people are going to revolt

677
00:40:19,030 --> 00:40:19,430
with this.

678
00:40:19,430 --> 00:40:25,530
man i wish i would have talked to you sooner because now i have to i have to go and do like

679
00:40:25,530 --> 00:40:30,010
a regex no not even a reg oh is a lot more work for you no it's not it's just it's literally like

680
00:40:30,010 --> 00:40:35,770
three clicks copy find yeah but i find every but the problem is i don't know what to replace it

681
00:40:35,770 --> 00:40:41,570
with i'm sorry guys we're getting sidetracked on this you have a whole decentralized like

682
00:40:41,570 --> 00:40:45,070
community i didn't think it was so important i thought i made the right decision to begin with

683
00:40:45,070 --> 00:40:48,110
This is where you shouldn't be making decisions on your own.

684
00:40:49,830 --> 00:40:50,150
Okay.

685
00:40:50,850 --> 00:40:51,410
That's rude.

686
00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:52,190
Get off your throne.

687
00:40:53,330 --> 00:40:53,810
Whatever.

688
00:40:55,350 --> 00:40:56,990
When are you selling those hats, man?

689
00:40:57,650 --> 00:41:01,330
I saw there was like five people that came up to you at BitDevs last night.

690
00:41:01,550 --> 00:41:02,570
Literally one man.

691
00:41:02,570 --> 00:41:05,490
And then me, I've been waiting for a Stacker News hat.

692
00:41:06,530 --> 00:41:07,270
I haven't got one.

693
00:41:07,770 --> 00:41:09,430
Stacker News Live!

694
00:41:09,430 --> 00:41:16,430
I'm with my BFFs, Keon and SupertestNet.

695
00:41:16,430 --> 00:41:17,430
Hello.

696
00:41:17,430 --> 00:41:18,430
Can you believe it, Super?

697
00:41:18,430 --> 00:41:20,430
The fifth top story is Blue Check Manifesto.

698
00:41:20,430 --> 00:41:22,430
This is from Odell.

699
00:41:22,430 --> 00:41:35,540
11 comments 5 sats an Oster post An Oster post Well you actually wanted to see one of your top stories I wanted to have this as one of my stories I thought it was a great uh you know dude this is one thing to just

700
00:41:35,820 --> 00:41:38,740
you know, knowing Odell and just the way he looks at things.

701
00:41:38,740 --> 00:41:41,720
He's very like, I don't know what you would call that,

702
00:41:41,780 --> 00:41:43,640
but he can kind of peer into the future, dude.

703
00:41:43,900 --> 00:41:47,880
Like, and kind of like pull things back and then like bring it forward.

704
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:49,840
And then you're like, crap, that dude was right.

705
00:41:49,840 --> 00:41:59,140
And if you look at all the receipts he has, he's been more right than he has been wrong.

706
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:04,100
Yeah, I mean, he's not like a Bellagio who's throwing out predictions every day.

707
00:42:04,100 --> 00:42:05,840
Yeah, he's not throwing out a million dollar.

708
00:42:06,700 --> 00:42:08,260
Hotel's not throwing a million dollar prediction.

709
00:42:08,700 --> 00:42:10,240
But he does do these type of things.

710
00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:15,780
So if you click on the post, he basically talks about how, you know, where Twitter is headed

711
00:42:15,780 --> 00:42:18,140
and kind of where Elon's mind is at

712
00:42:18,140 --> 00:42:20,780
is that he's going to turn this into like a WeChat.

713
00:42:21,140 --> 00:42:23,260
And I 100% agree.

714
00:42:23,260 --> 00:42:26,860
Like I don't, you know, I've done my own research on Elon

715
00:42:26,860 --> 00:42:28,540
back in the old days when Carr used to do

716
00:42:28,540 --> 00:42:30,620
journalistic writings and stuff on Thriller.

717
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,660
And just based off of my research on the guy,

718
00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:37,800
yeah, man, there's some darkness there.

719
00:42:38,100 --> 00:42:40,260
And this would not be shocking

720
00:42:40,260 --> 00:42:44,300
if this kind of comes into fruition.

721
00:42:44,300 --> 00:42:51,520
So like he goes into it, he goes that he says that to those that do not appreciate freedom, the value prop is clear.

722
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:55,960
WeChat is incredibly powerful and successful in China.

723
00:42:56,840 --> 00:42:58,840
WeChat has become an integrated part of life in China.

724
00:42:58,980 --> 00:43:03,880
You use it to message your friends, buy your groceries, hail a ride, and even book a doctor's appointment.

725
00:43:03,880 --> 00:43:06,980
It's basically impossible to exist in China without it.

726
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:13,760
The Chinese app started off as a simple smartphone messaging app in 2011, less than a year after WhatsApp was founded.

727
00:43:14,300 --> 00:43:18,340
but it grew explosively as it expanded into kind of a super app that takes

728
00:43:18,340 --> 00:43:20,280
place of Uber, Grubhub, Venmo, Craigslist,

729
00:43:20,360 --> 00:43:21,540
and a whole bunch of other services.

730
00:43:22,720 --> 00:43:24,980
And then he says here to those that do not,

731
00:43:25,240 --> 00:43:26,520
or that do appreciate freedom,

732
00:43:26,580 --> 00:43:27,300
the concern is clear.

733
00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:32,400
WeChat has essentially become required to live in China and it has surveillance

734
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:34,180
and censorship integrated at its core.

735
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:36,280
So yeah,

736
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:36,500
man,

737
00:43:36,540 --> 00:43:37,400
this is like some,

738
00:43:37,400 --> 00:43:39,580
some serious stuff,

739
00:43:39,680 --> 00:43:39,820
dude.

740
00:43:39,860 --> 00:43:40,240
I think,

741
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:41,540
I think,

742
00:43:41,720 --> 00:43:43,520
I think it's pretty obvious at this point.

743
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:46,360
Like if you're, and it was kind of telling too,

744
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,480
when he did the whole Doge thing where he showed like the Doge thing and it

745
00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,760
was like Doge for like a week. I was like, Oh,

746
00:43:51,780 --> 00:43:55,900
this guy doesn't give a crap dude. Like he's just, yeah. I think,

747
00:43:55,960 --> 00:44:00,920
I think, I think Elon is, yeah, man. What do you think?

748
00:44:01,580 --> 00:44:03,820
Well, I mean, so some context, I mean,

749
00:44:03,820 --> 00:44:05,960
some context that I think is true,

750
00:44:06,080 --> 00:44:10,680
he's probably like one day CEO in Twitter. So I don't, I'm not,

751
00:44:10,680 --> 00:44:14,560
I'm not sure he's like really thinking about this very much. And I,

752
00:44:14,660 --> 00:44:19,520
and I think he historically just says whatever comes to mind, but I thought,

753
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:21,860
I mean, I thought this, I thought this post was good. It did,

754
00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:26,240
it did make me think a little more about WeChat in a way that I would normally

755
00:44:26,240 --> 00:44:30,020
not think about WeChat, but it, but why, but it made me,

756
00:44:30,020 --> 00:44:33,860
it made me wonder why is WeChat, WeChat in China,

757
00:44:33,860 --> 00:44:37,040
and there's no other WeChat really in other parts of the world.

758
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:51,860
And I think it's mostly because China kind of has like a fascistic type of governance where they side with these mega corporations and then they basically are like body snatchers and embody them.

759
00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:55,840
And now these companies are more or less like Chinese government products.

760
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:58,460
And so there's not really any way to compete with WeChat.

761
00:44:58,460 --> 00:45:10,660
And so if people want something like a Grubhub, WeChat builds it in and there's not going to be a competitor to it because China's government will prevent it so that they can continue operating.

762
00:45:10,740 --> 00:45:12,540
You don't think Twitter's kind of headed that way?

763
00:45:12,660 --> 00:45:14,480
Meta, we saw the whole Apple Vision.

764
00:45:14,680 --> 00:45:16,040
Did you see the Apple Vision goggles?

765
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:24,000
This is clearly obvious where these centralized platforms are even becoming more centralized than they already are.

766
00:45:24,260 --> 00:45:27,620
And eventually it's going to merge.

767
00:45:27,620 --> 00:45:31,560
It's going to be like Netflix, Apple, soft Google.

768
00:45:31,880 --> 00:45:34,100
Like it's just going to be one conglomerate.

769
00:45:34,500 --> 00:45:36,020
And I'm not even joking when I say that.

770
00:45:36,020 --> 00:45:37,100
That's probably where it's headed.

771
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:41,640
And yeah, it's becoming painfully obvious.

772
00:45:41,900 --> 00:45:43,020
And you got Dash 1971.

773
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:44,900
He says, people's missing Odell's point.

774
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:46,180
It's not about the money.

775
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:50,300
It's about the encroachment of KYC and the opening of the door to social credit score like applications.

776
00:45:50,520 --> 00:45:56,140
The whole point of Bitcoin and Oster and other freedom tech is supposed to be fighting back against centralization of the internet.

777
00:45:56,140 --> 00:46:03,040
so yeah it's really not about the blue checks it's really just about the the precedence that

778
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,620
it's setting and where we're headed and we're falling right into it like no one's

779
00:46:07,620 --> 00:46:13,680
i don't know i think it's really important and i think um people need to start sounding the alarm

780
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:20,120
as well and this is why nostril this is why we nostril right like gosh yeah i just i'm so my my

781
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:24,200
only thing is i don't think there is room for i don't think twitter will ever become a wechat

782
00:46:24,200 --> 00:46:28,900
that's my that's my that's my prediction is i don't think it'll i don't think i don't even think

783
00:46:28,900 --> 00:46:33,720
people won't want to know i don't i even think if elon even if elon could pull it off which i don't

784
00:46:33,720 --> 00:46:40,700
think he can be in a one day a week ceo i i think no man yeah i know i know you tesla like everything

785
00:46:40,700 --> 00:46:44,920
else is pulled off spacex a lot of those were like how the hell did he pull that off yeah but

786
00:46:44,920 --> 00:46:48,820
that's not those are those are like hard tech products it's a different it's a different kind

787
00:46:48,820 --> 00:46:54,100
of thing social media thing the social is i mean just him getting twitter right has been a bit of

788
00:46:54,100 --> 00:46:58,640
a struggle and i'm not sure i mean it's i don't i think many of us would think he's been making a

789
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:04,280
lot of mistakes there so i don't and now he's going to add in uh 10 other products to it all

790
00:47:04,280 --> 00:47:08,360
you know all seamlessly that people want and somehow compete with something like doordash

791
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:13,120
which already i mean maybe you could acquire it but i i just don't i personally don't really see

792
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:17,260
it happening i think it's worth thinking about i think it's a really interesting thought experiment

793
00:47:17,260 --> 00:47:24,400
and but i also don't think i also don't think elon is like he wants to be he wants to be wechat

794
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:29,420
in the sense that he wants surveillance and control and social credit scores i think he

795
00:47:29,420 --> 00:47:33,700
wants wechat in terms of he thinks it's a great business and yeah i think yeah yeah

796
00:47:33,700 --> 00:47:39,720
but i don't know it could but it could but it definitely leads to that if if he could build a

797
00:47:39,720 --> 00:47:44,400
wechat there's no way the government isn't going to begin using a surveillance i mean look at i

798
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,980
mean i hate to bring somebody like jack into this but like look at jack right like he has title he

799
00:47:48,980 --> 00:47:54,860
has cash app he has he's developing on australia he's doing all these other things but we know jack

800
00:47:54,860 --> 00:48:00,720
as an individual he's a bitcorner right like he would never do that but um that's where that's my

801
00:48:00,720 --> 00:48:06,480
fear that comes from is like elon like i don't know man he doesn't he's not a bitcoiner right

802
00:48:06,480 --> 00:48:12,220
so that to me coupled the fact that he owns twitter you know let's say he owns another let's

803
00:48:12,220 --> 00:48:16,960
he had owns like a rival cash app business and then you know then you never know he's a bit of

804
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,960
a wild card he's a bit of a wild card you never know man that's all i'm saying is like at least

805
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:26,520
with jack kind of know where he sits as far as like um ethic ethically at least i mean i hope we

806
00:48:26,520 --> 00:48:32,320
hope so we hope we know how jack if we don't we're in trouble i think they're really cool

807
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:39,360
this first one is a basic guide to making the switch to graphene os this is 16 800 stats 34

808
00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:47,680
comments from Siggy 47 tech post yeah so Siggy has been talking about like uh de-googling himself

809
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:53,600
for a while and this and we last week we did he's this is like he's every week i feel like he's in

810
00:48:53,600 --> 00:49:00,200
the top uh the top five postman yeah like yeah quality work last week he hated apple and this

811
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:04,760
is kind of a continuation of that and now i mean he also appears to also be hating google mostly on

812
00:49:04,760 --> 00:49:14,180
the on the spyware side so he's he switched to uh using graphene and he uh kind of uh helps us

813
00:49:14,180 --> 00:49:22,080
understand what might be uh well what what you might go through as when you go when you switch

814
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:27,520
to graphene and why you might want to do it kind of sharing his own motivations um but overall it's

815
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:32,080
a pretty i mean like i had no idea what it would entail because i actually haven't looked into this

816
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:37,220
because I'm kind of a one-track mind type of person,

817
00:49:37,360 --> 00:49:40,020
and I just use the iPhone, and that's okay.

818
00:49:40,300 --> 00:49:45,100
But it's pretty cool to learn a little bit more about graphene

819
00:49:45,100 --> 00:49:46,680
and some of the security they offer

820
00:49:46,680 --> 00:49:52,500
and how you can still maybe interact with the normal ecosystem.

821
00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:56,420
And then, yeah, I also wondered about the phone choice thing,

822
00:49:56,460 --> 00:49:58,640
and it appears you are somewhat limited on the phone choice,

823
00:49:58,700 --> 00:50:00,040
but the Pixel phones are pretty good.

824
00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,960
You mentioned a really interesting thing in there.

825
00:50:01,960 --> 00:50:02,980
I don't know if you saw it.

826
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:04,060
And I didn't know this.

827
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:05,060
Good thing I waited.

828
00:50:05,520 --> 00:50:07,400
Because I'm kind of in the same situation as you.

829
00:50:07,460 --> 00:50:09,720
Like, I'm already thinking, like, making the switch over.

830
00:50:10,180 --> 00:50:12,860
Like, I'm moving towards that here, hopefully by the end of the summer.

831
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:16,960
But one of the things he did mention was about the unlock thing.

832
00:50:17,020 --> 00:50:17,760
Did you see that?

833
00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:19,620
Where is that located at?

834
00:50:19,620 --> 00:50:24,660
He was basically saying that make sure you get the right unlock.

835
00:50:24,660 --> 00:50:29,880
because you might just be having a carrier unlocked,

836
00:50:30,000 --> 00:50:33,100
but not an actual Google unlocked, if that makes sense.

837
00:50:33,220 --> 00:50:34,060
Do you know what I'm talking about?

838
00:50:34,480 --> 00:50:36,100
So he brings that up in the thing.

839
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,600
Definitely read it if you're thinking about switching

840
00:50:37,600 --> 00:50:39,000
because that was something I had no idea.

841
00:50:39,080 --> 00:50:40,120
I thought that was the same thing.

842
00:50:40,460 --> 00:50:41,440
Turns out it's not.

843
00:50:42,420 --> 00:50:45,120
Nulama said, a couple of interesting apps,

844
00:50:45,260 --> 00:50:48,060
Florist Board, customizable open source keyboard,

845
00:50:48,380 --> 00:50:50,160
Habits Tracker, define and track your habits,

846
00:50:50,660 --> 00:50:52,000
runner up, open source run tracker

847
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:57,020
with support for heart monitors and agus and open source two-step authenticator that's kind of cool

848
00:50:57,020 --> 00:51:04,760
um yeah so really good post man love seeing this uh yeah he's doing he's one of the best doing

849
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:09,100
original content we have another we have another couple i think one or two more original content

850
00:51:09,100 --> 00:51:13,580
posts uh that are in the top this week what it's going to take you to move over to uh something

851
00:51:13,580 --> 00:51:18,200
like this like graphene i know jack had said something on nostr that he was thinking about

852
00:51:18,200 --> 00:51:23,300
they're looking into this block is looking into well jack is my daddy and so i do everything jack

853
00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:27,040
does oh i'm just saying like people are bitcoiners are thinking about the phone we're talking about

854
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,900
the phone we've been talking about phones for two years yeah no for sure i think i think it'd be

855
00:51:30,900 --> 00:51:36,240
i think it'd be interesting to try it out i used to use i used to use google i went from

856
00:51:36,240 --> 00:51:43,040
an apple phone at one point to a google phone and i was using pixel it was unlocked i didn't do any

857
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:47,740
like graphing stuff on it but i was happy with it and then i just broke i think it was in i think

858
00:51:47,740 --> 00:51:51,920
it was in las vegas i was drunk and it like dropped on the ground and it just wouldn't even

859
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:58,220
it was like bricked and then i switched back to apple stuff but maybe maybe it's time to go back

860
00:51:58,220 --> 00:52:04,340
and get a little more private i don't really do much on my phone it's like browser uh it's

861
00:52:04,340 --> 00:52:08,340
interesting because like with me i think the only thing that locked me in was iMessage

862
00:52:08,340 --> 00:52:14,020
and and now i find myself not using iMessage as much as i used to and that was a thing where i

863
00:52:14,020 --> 00:52:21,700
went to google and then came back because of iMessage um because it was so bad the yeah a lot

864
00:52:21,700 --> 00:52:27,660
of my friends who were who would complain about iMessage and wanted everyone on iMessage many of

865
00:52:27,660 --> 00:52:31,240
them are using signal now yeah and that's kind of where i realized it's like hello ladies joe

866
00:52:31,240 --> 00:52:36,860
welcome back to another exciting episode of stacker news my name is car i'm with kian that always like

867
00:52:36,860 --> 00:52:41,360
scares me a little bit really does it well you're just like whoa who is this guy yeah it's like you

868
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:42,360
You just jump out.

869
00:52:42,460 --> 00:52:50,360
I mean, I know who you are, but it's like you jump from a steady state of normal human being into a radio guy.

870
00:52:50,560 --> 00:52:51,340
This is what you got to do.

871
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:53,800
The next story is New York City isn't dead.

872
00:52:54,180 --> 00:52:55,380
My first visit to PubKey.

873
00:52:55,380 --> 00:52:57,380
This is from Siggy47, August 6th.

874
00:52:58,060 --> 00:53:02,260
A Bitcoin post, 37 comments, 9,969 sats.

875
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,480
Can I get a woo, Siggy?

876
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:05,600
It's quite a bit more sats.

877
00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,220
It's 109,000 now.

878
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:08,700
109,000?

879
00:53:08,980 --> 00:53:09,880
Yeah, if you refresh.

880
00:53:09,880 --> 00:53:10,460
Crush you.

881
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:11,520
Yeah, there you go.

882
00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:11,980
Wow.

883
00:53:12,060 --> 00:53:13,060
Many of those stats are for me.

884
00:53:13,140 --> 00:53:16,600
I really enjoyed this post because I felt like I visited PubKey

885
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:23,500
without actually having to travel to New York, which was amazing.

886
00:53:25,080 --> 00:53:26,620
It was a really nice breakdown.

887
00:53:26,620 --> 00:53:30,040
Apparently, Siggy visited.

888
00:53:30,420 --> 00:53:32,540
He had never been to a Bitcoin meetup before,

889
00:53:33,260 --> 00:53:36,900
but Siggy visited PubKey for the first time.

890
00:53:36,900 --> 00:53:42,180
apparently Marty Bent was there and he did a presentation following the Galaxy Digital Mining

891
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:48,940
Report and kind of broke that down for people. But it has a full write-up on the bar and what

892
00:53:48,940 --> 00:53:55,000
it's like there and the vibe. I mean, I thought it was so good. Yeah, I read it too. This is

893
00:53:55,000 --> 00:54:00,840
basically becoming Siggy News Live. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. It's whatever. He's writing every

894
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:05,320
week. He's making the top five. Yeah, he's writing fantastic original content. This is another thing

895
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,160
I don't think people realize, but like you get on the top five of Stacker News live.

896
00:54:09,340 --> 00:54:16,040
Not only do you force us to talk about it, you know, and then it gets disseminated to all of the socials that we're connected to and all that kind of stuff.

897
00:54:16,180 --> 00:54:18,540
So, yeah, Ziggy's making a name for himself, man.

898
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:20,080
Yes.

899
00:54:20,140 --> 00:54:21,380
I mean, he showed up on Rook's podcast.

900
00:54:21,500 --> 00:54:22,960
Yeah, Rook interviewed him.

901
00:54:23,900 --> 00:54:24,700
Pretty awesome.

902
00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:26,640
What else did he cover?

903
00:54:26,700 --> 00:54:27,120
Oh, yeah.

904
00:54:27,140 --> 00:54:28,160
So he covers the whole vibe.

905
00:54:28,220 --> 00:54:29,600
Like, what is the scene like there?

906
00:54:29,740 --> 00:54:33,520
Apparently, you know, most people go in there and don't even realize it's a Bitcoin bar.

907
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,180
They're there because it's a really good bar, apparently.

908
00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:41,020
And apparently they have really good food as well.

909
00:54:41,400 --> 00:54:41,860
The Smash Burger.

910
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:42,760
That's what Peter told me.

911
00:54:43,020 --> 00:54:45,240
Yeah, the Smash Burger is apparently great.

912
00:54:45,380 --> 00:54:48,420
I think Siggy said he had a chicken sandwich that was fantastic.

913
00:54:48,700 --> 00:54:55,660
They have a real legitimate culinary chef guy doing the menu.

914
00:54:55,840 --> 00:55:00,940
It just looked like the whole thing is designed to provide the dive bar experience,

915
00:55:00,940 --> 00:55:05,840
which for many people is actually kind of comfortable and is disinhibited.

916
00:55:07,020 --> 00:55:14,100
But yet it has all of the amenities that you might expect in a higher end bar

917
00:55:14,100 --> 00:55:15,200
as far as like food.

918
00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,220
And look at the ambiance.

919
00:55:18,500 --> 00:55:20,380
I love like a checkered floor.

920
00:55:20,620 --> 00:55:22,560
Dude, who doesn't like a good dive bar, dude?

921
00:55:22,760 --> 00:55:23,220
I know.

922
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:24,640
It looks amazing.

923
00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:26,800
Those are the kind of bars that I grew up in.

924
00:55:27,040 --> 00:55:27,780
Those are like, you know.

925
00:55:28,660 --> 00:55:29,640
You grew up in a bar.

926
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:30,280
You know what I mean?

927
00:55:30,280 --> 00:55:32,900
Like, you know, like in your 20s, you know, like playing shows.

928
00:55:33,040 --> 00:55:34,780
Like, these are the kind of bars you would hang out at.

929
00:55:34,900 --> 00:55:35,320
I see.

930
00:55:35,500 --> 00:55:36,460
Or at least I would hang out at.

931
00:55:36,820 --> 00:55:38,000
We got the stackers in the comments.

932
00:55:38,100 --> 00:55:39,060
Lumar had the top comment.

933
00:55:39,140 --> 00:55:40,040
He said, quality content.

934
00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:44,240
Have 1,000 stats for someone less likely to make it to that destination.

935
00:55:44,420 --> 00:55:46,460
Embarrassed to see the post hasn't earned more yet.

936
00:55:46,820 --> 00:55:49,080
Of the paragraph ending in douchebags made me chuckle.

937
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:52,200
Siggy said, thanks very much for the generous zap.

938
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:54,800
I almost took that line out, but my wife insisted I leave it in.

939
00:55:55,460 --> 00:55:57,500
Then Blockchain Book, he says, I was recently in New York City.

940
00:55:57,960 --> 00:55:59,920
Thought about going to PubKey, but didn't have time.

941
00:55:59,920 --> 00:56:02,680
It looks like an awesome place, but the crowd I'll pass on.

942
00:56:03,260 --> 00:56:04,980
Definitely need more women.

943
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:07,000
The lack of Bitcoin payments are odd.

944
00:56:07,620 --> 00:56:08,920
I don't buy this explanation.

945
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:15,280
Then he says, I think this IRS rule stuff is cop out for poor transaction volume in Bitcoin.

946
00:56:15,780 --> 00:56:18,620
People do stuff all the time and don't think twice about IRS.

947
00:56:19,100 --> 00:56:24,320
I think it's better to just say people don't want to spend Bitcoin that use this IRS boogeyman.

948
00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:28,680
Maybe next time I am in New York City, I will go to pub key and buy drinks with my Zeus wallet.

949
00:56:28,680 --> 00:56:31,180
and if Tor is down, I'll use my Mutiny wallet.

950
00:56:31,700 --> 00:56:32,740
That's from Blockchain Book.

951
00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:34,340
Yeah, so they said apparently,

952
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,180
according to the owners of PubKey,

953
00:56:36,180 --> 00:56:40,800
the only 1% of the transaction volume there

954
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:42,200
is paid in Bitcoin.

955
00:56:42,580 --> 00:56:45,880
They themselves use a Zeus point of sale system

956
00:56:45,880 --> 00:56:47,520
at PubKey.

957
00:56:49,180 --> 00:56:52,080
But very few people actually end up paying with Bitcoin,

958
00:56:52,320 --> 00:56:54,800
which is kind of sad.

959
00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:56,300
But I think we're just, you know,

960
00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:57,580
we're at the early stages of,

961
00:56:57,580 --> 00:57:02,580
I mean, most of the time you don't even expect it to be an option available to you to pay in Bitcoin when you go places.

962
00:57:02,720 --> 00:57:06,240
I know personally if I ever went to New York, that'd be the place I'd be hanging out every day.

963
00:57:06,380 --> 00:57:07,220
I would even think twice.

964
00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:08,180
Like, why do I want to go?

965
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:09,220
Do you know what I mean?

966
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,540
Like, it's like it would be my it'd be like what Club Lab is to me here and the Commons is to me here.

967
00:57:13,620 --> 00:57:19,480
It's like those are the two places that I feel the most comfortable in the entire state of Texas is at the Bitcoin Commons in Club Lab.

968
00:57:19,820 --> 00:57:24,940
And I would imagine the same way if I went to New York, I'd feel just like I do when I go to Nashville with Bitcoin Park.

969
00:57:24,940 --> 00:57:26,920
I just feel really comfortable there.

970
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:29,740
So as a Bitcoiner, yeah, spread this message.

971
00:57:30,000 --> 00:57:31,820
Go and do more of these.

972
00:57:31,900 --> 00:57:34,340
I would love to hear one on the park.

973
00:57:35,460 --> 00:57:37,940
I've actually done a review on the Bitcoin park before.

974
00:57:38,340 --> 00:57:39,260
On Thriller Bitcoin, yeah.

975
00:57:39,340 --> 00:57:40,920
If you type in Bitcoin park on Thriller Bitcoin,

976
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:44,780
I actually did one when I went there the very first time a year ago.

977
00:57:45,240 --> 00:57:47,080
So I think more of these is good.

978
00:57:47,220 --> 00:57:51,620
It gets people out there and willing to support projects like this

979
00:57:51,620 --> 00:57:52,720
because it's very important.

980
00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:57,380
These projects are operation and cost, everything.

981
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:01,080
So you're supporting them by talking about it and throwing sats their way.

982
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,040
Hats off to PubKey for making a great place or destination for big winners.

983
00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,340
We'll go back to another exciting SuperStacker News live.

984
00:58:07,660 --> 00:58:13,000
I'm with my two BFFs in the entire world, the entire stacker world,

985
00:58:13,160 --> 00:58:17,340
SuperTestNet and Keon from Stacker News.

986
00:58:17,860 --> 00:58:18,700
I'm that man.

987
00:58:19,300 --> 00:58:21,480
How is the last one squeaking by?

988
00:58:21,480 --> 00:58:27,620
what would you do if you receive unexpected bitcoin from a known entity this is from tsw

989
00:58:27,620 --> 00:58:36,800
september 11th bitcoin post 37 comments 5 000 boosts 6 000 16 000.7 cents yeah so uh in this

990
00:58:36,800 --> 00:58:42,440
post he kind of describes the precipitating uh incident that caused him to write this post and

991
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:48,880
it's this uh the quote-unquote fat-fingered transaction uh is what it's being called and

992
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:54,220
And it appears that PayPal, I think through one of its subsidiaries, I think it's Paxos.

993
00:58:54,220 --> 00:58:55,500
Oh, is it Paxos?

994
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:55,940
Okay.

995
00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:09,360
Paxos made a transaction that paid something like $500,000 in fees to the miner that mined the transaction on accident.

996
00:59:09,700 --> 00:59:10,500
Obviously not.

997
00:59:10,700 --> 00:59:11,920
How does that happen on accident?

998
00:59:12,920 --> 00:59:18,000
They're probably using software that is making these transactions,

999
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:20,760
and it had a bug in it is likely what happened.

1000
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:22,060
Super, do you have any insight?

1001
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:22,760
I do.

1002
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:25,820
It's all guesswork, so mine is also guesswork.

1003
00:59:26,060 --> 00:59:29,500
But one thing that could happen is that when you have an address

1004
00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:32,500
that has a lot of money in it, if you spend some out of it,

1005
00:59:32,500 --> 00:59:34,740
you're supposed to send the change to yourself.

1006
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:37,300
But I think what might have happened here,

1007
00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:39,240
this is based on some research James Lopp did,

1008
00:59:39,380 --> 00:59:41,020
or some guesswork that James Lopp did,

1009
00:59:41,020 --> 00:59:48,960
is that someone might have sent money from Paxos to Paxos,

1010
00:59:49,520 --> 00:59:52,540
and so it misinterpreted the change address and was like,

1011
00:59:52,620 --> 00:59:54,520
oh, this change address is already in here.

1012
00:59:55,160 --> 00:59:58,900
So then it just made it, it didn't duplicate that change address,

1013
00:59:58,980 --> 01:00:00,180
and so everything went to fees instead.

1014
01:00:00,180 --> 01:00:02,160
So Clive Billinus, who's this guy?

1015
01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:04,300
He said, assuming that you are in the USA,

1016
01:00:04,420 --> 01:00:07,340
I would be inclined to notify the nearest FBI office that this has happened

1017
01:00:07,340 --> 01:00:09,100
since they may be innocent and accidental reasons

1018
01:00:09,100 --> 01:00:10,980
why this money has dropped into your account,

1019
01:00:11,040 --> 01:00:12,720
but there may also be a criminal intent

1020
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,560
to get you as an innocent person

1021
01:00:14,560 --> 01:00:16,780
to withdraw this money as part of some sort of criminal activity.

1022
01:00:17,300 --> 01:00:19,420
If you tell the FBI, then at least it is on record.

1023
01:00:20,860 --> 01:00:23,720
Like, yeah.

1024
01:00:24,580 --> 01:00:27,120
I think the question is confusing because, like,

1025
01:00:27,420 --> 01:00:28,540
So contact the sender.

1026
01:00:28,680 --> 01:00:30,340
Looks like the stackers have voted,

1027
01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:32,260
and they said contact the sender right away.

1028
01:00:33,660 --> 01:00:35,400
But didn't the same thing happen to you, Keon?

1029
01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:36,980
Similar scenario.

1030
01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:39,680
So the thing you linked to wasn't this exact scenario.

1031
01:00:39,680 --> 01:00:47,280
It was a fiat, I think, banking situation where there was a bug that gave people money that they didn't deserve.

1032
01:00:48,600 --> 01:00:51,500
But in this scenario, it's a Bitcoin one.

1033
01:00:51,800 --> 01:00:57,340
Mine was a similar one where I had given people money that they hadn't earned.

1034
01:00:58,280 --> 01:00:59,600
So very similar.

1035
01:00:59,780 --> 01:01:00,980
It seems to be a common problem.

1036
01:01:01,180 --> 01:01:04,280
You have software that is written to give people money.

1037
01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:10,940
uh if you have a bug in it um you might give them more than right like that's fine what's fine

1038
01:01:10,940 --> 01:01:15,840
uh i mean unless you know like the entity but if you don't know because this is from just a

1039
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:20,160
random address right he's he's asking if it's from an unknown just random address you would

1040
01:01:20,160 --> 01:01:24,080
have to go do the research but let's say if you're just like a pleb but let's say you're

1041
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:27,540
just like a pleb and you just see 500 000 stats showing up in your wallet like

1042
01:01:27,540 --> 01:01:33,480
i think i mean i it depends on what type of person you are and what like what where where

1043
01:01:33,480 --> 01:01:35,320
where your ethical lines are drawn.

1044
01:01:35,700 --> 01:01:37,040
But I think for a lot of people,

1045
01:01:37,200 --> 01:01:39,680
they prefer to only have things that they've,

1046
01:01:39,800 --> 01:01:43,060
or they prefer to only possess things that they've earned

1047
01:01:43,060 --> 01:01:47,800
and not things that they get by someone else's accident.

1048
01:01:48,760 --> 01:01:51,200
I mean, it seems kind of, I don't know.

1049
01:01:51,420 --> 01:01:52,060
What would you do?

1050
01:01:52,200 --> 01:01:53,900
For me, the line is give the money back.

1051
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:54,560
I didn't earn it.

1052
01:01:54,580 --> 01:01:55,180
I don't want it.

1053
01:01:55,180 --> 01:01:58,760
I would feel weird spending it or benefiting from it.

1054
01:01:58,940 --> 01:02:00,120
And then super, what's your question?

1055
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:01,920
Well, you make an effort.

1056
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:03,920
You make an effort to give the money back.

1057
01:02:03,920 --> 01:02:06,920
It's kind of like if I, one time I found some guy's wallet

1058
01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:22,070
at a bar and I didn just pocket it I took it to the bar and said I found this wallet Can you hold it for whoever it might but doesn that require but like let say if you just a club that doesn know how to look up a etxo or just a transaction in general like what do you do then you make an effort you just

1059
01:02:22,070 --> 01:02:25,730
say you reach out to your friends i don't know what to do all this money popped into my address

1060
01:02:25,730 --> 01:02:30,430
i i want to give it back what can i do so you just go on twitter and australia and say hey i

1061
01:02:30,430 --> 01:02:34,270
found five hundred thousand dollars in my bitcoin wallet somebody take it for me i think i would

1062
01:02:34,270 --> 01:02:39,230
start by asking people maybe at a local bitcoin meetup yeah let's see what the stackers say the

1063
01:02:39,230 --> 01:02:44,990
top comment was uh blockchain boog someone sent me 25 000 sats to my stacker news wall and i still

1064
01:02:44,990 --> 01:02:48,970
don't know who or why i've been thinking about dumping it in rewards pool so all the stacker

1065
01:02:48,970 --> 01:02:54,110
news can benefit undisciplined undisciplined said did it all happen recently i think gray ruby

1066
01:02:54,110 --> 01:02:58,130
forgot to change his default zap setting back to a normal number after our football ante

1067
01:02:58,130 --> 01:03:01,630
blockchain book says i think it was about a week ago undisciplined says that's about the right

1068
01:03:01,630 --> 01:03:04,170
timeline i believe he's going to consider that a bank error in your favor

1069
01:03:04,170 --> 01:03:08,950
blockchain book says ah if you're gray ruby can confirm this i'll return the sats and gray ruby

1070
01:03:08,950 --> 01:03:14,830
said wasn't me this time i was dumb enough to do this and i said we are all satoshi 10 000 sat but

1071
01:03:14,830 --> 01:03:18,290
just laughed at me we'll deserve send them back i didn't expect it to return but i said merry

1072
01:03:18,290 --> 01:03:21,850
christmas after i realized what happened so it looks like the stackers are willing to do it i

1073
01:03:21,850 --> 01:03:26,490
don't know remember that one guy who was trying to tip me but he tipped some other guy instead

1074
01:03:26,490 --> 01:03:31,250
and that guy kept it on stacker news i still remember that by the way oh yeah i don't remember

1075
01:03:31,250 --> 01:03:33,070
how much that was. It was a lot.

1076
01:03:36,010 --> 01:03:37,570
If we had gotten that,

1077
01:03:38,070 --> 01:03:39,370
the car might actually have

1078
01:03:39,370 --> 01:03:39,770
a home.

1079
01:03:41,090 --> 01:03:42,550
Hang on. It's right here. Look.

1080
01:03:43,510 --> 01:03:45,090
Where was it at, Keon? It was

1081
01:03:45,090 --> 01:03:47,290
somewhere. Dang. I thought it was

1082
01:03:47,290 --> 01:03:48,810
in my... In your bio?

1083
01:03:49,050 --> 01:03:50,410
Yeah, I thought it was in my bio in here.

1084
01:03:50,850 --> 01:03:53,110
Oh, yeah. I forget who it was.

1085
01:03:53,730 --> 01:03:54,910
Damn, I forget that guy's name.

1086
01:03:54,950 --> 01:03:57,270
But he kept it. It's like 80,000

1087
01:03:57,270 --> 01:03:58,690
cents, wasn't it? Yeah.

1088
01:03:58,770 --> 01:04:01,210
I don't know, actually, how much it was.

1089
01:04:01,250 --> 01:04:07,130
precisely because it is breaking imf urges el salvador to remove bitcoin is legal tender

1090
01:04:07,130 --> 01:04:15,130
what do you think about this kian i don't know anything about the imf i know uh i know it

1091
01:04:15,130 --> 01:04:19,550
probably like probably sucks it sounds like it's i mean anything having to do with banking probably

1092
01:04:19,550 --> 01:04:25,950
sucks and anything that's like kind of uh top down especially at a global level also sounds

1093
01:04:25,950 --> 01:04:31,930
like it sucks um anyway it makes sense that i'm as far as i know the imf like loans a third world

1094
01:04:31,930 --> 01:04:36,250
country's money we were talking to jimmy song at the last bit devs and he was talking he had just

1095
01:04:36,250 --> 01:04:41,110
visited el salvador and met with like a mexican delegation or something that was there and he was

1096
01:04:41,110 --> 01:04:44,810
saying that what happens with these loans is these loans come with strings attached like all money

1097
01:04:44,810 --> 01:04:52,510
does and what they do is they uh they give them the money and they say hey you need a you know you

1098
01:04:52,510 --> 01:04:57,990
need to have kids in school from like three to five years old or something.

1099
01:04:58,130 --> 01:05:03,430
You know, they tell them their country needs to change the way it operates in order to

1100
01:05:03,430 --> 01:05:04,470
be eligible for the money.

1101
01:05:05,490 --> 01:05:10,370
So these loans aren't necessarily great for the countries.

1102
01:05:10,450 --> 01:05:13,670
And then they often have hard times paying them back because they might be denominated,

1103
01:05:13,870 --> 01:05:17,430
say, in U.S. dollars or something, and they don't have access to U.S. dollars in the money

1104
01:05:17,430 --> 01:05:17,790
printer.

1105
01:05:17,790 --> 01:05:20,450
So it kind of really distorts these companies.

1106
01:05:20,450 --> 01:05:25,170
that's my understanding of it, but I'm kind of a noob when it comes to geopolitical stuff.

1107
01:05:26,410 --> 01:05:34,210
But anyway, Buckele trolled the IMF back. There's a link in the comments that Naut shared.

1108
01:05:36,430 --> 01:05:48,650
But Buckele sent them this silly gif, this silly Simpsons gif. And Buckele does not care. He does

1109
01:05:48,650 --> 01:05:54,030
not does not give a fuck at all he's uh i think he i think he gets it he he's he's trying to move

1110
01:05:54,030 --> 01:05:57,930
on from the imf he obviously doesn't like them um i don't know what to think of bukele but

1111
01:05:57,930 --> 01:06:05,650
yeah do you have any thoughts um yeah i just have mad respect for jimmy uh i think what jimmy's doing

1112
01:06:05,650 --> 01:06:18,430
um is amazing um you know um i i feel i feel like a lot of us uh myself i can only speak for

1113
01:06:18,430 --> 01:06:26,510
myself. I'm a young Bitcoiner and I'm a young Bitcoiner and I can only speak for myself. And I

1114
01:06:26,510 --> 01:06:35,670
know that a lot of us, at least for myself, you know, I look up to Jimmy and I look at him like a

1115
01:06:35,670 --> 01:06:43,350
like a general in this kind of fight that we're doing. And so if he's out there, you know, doing

1116
01:06:43,350 --> 01:06:49,130
all these amazing things and he's reporting back and like i said like keon said we saw him at bit

1117
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:52,070
desk and he was telling us all these amazing things and one of the most interesting things

1118
01:06:52,070 --> 01:06:58,850
that he told me was you know that they had uh his book thank god for bitcoin and uh out there in

1119
01:06:58,850 --> 01:07:04,070
el salvador but what was interesting is that they they had it bootlegged so they had actually

1120
01:07:04,070 --> 01:07:13,970
transcribed his book, but in Spanish. And what was, but these have like a slight different dialect,

1121
01:07:14,290 --> 01:07:19,590
I would imagine. And then, but it was like copies of it. And it was being passed around. There's a

1122
01:07:19,590 --> 01:07:26,690
lot of Christians there too. And I thought that was super touching. He was telling me it was

1123
01:07:26,690 --> 01:07:32,390
touching for him and it was definitely touching for me to hear that. So I think what Jimmy's doing

1124
01:07:32,390 --> 01:07:40,110
is very promising and it's it's very amazing for for me to see that jimmy's out there

1125
01:07:40,110 --> 01:07:46,290
doing those amazing things and when he comes back and shares a story like that for me it's just like

1126
01:07:46,290 --> 01:07:52,930
super touching and uh i think that uh are you gonna cry no i'm just i'm just sharing my thoughts

1127
01:07:52,930 --> 01:07:59,990
about the story and uh i think what he's doing is is promising and for him uh if when he comes

1128
01:07:59,990 --> 01:08:06,490
back and tells us this stuff uh like like i told you earlier i feel like us young bitcoiners are on

1129
01:08:06,490 --> 01:08:13,490
the front line doing doing the building doing this kind of stuff and then we have like the generals

1130
01:08:13,490 --> 01:08:19,390
like the jimmies the parkers the martys the odells like actually in the back and but like telling us

1131
01:08:19,390 --> 01:08:24,870
what's going on and kind of giving us the direction that we need to know so i just have a lot of

1132
01:08:24,870 --> 01:08:29,690
respect for those people because they laid the foundation before us so that's kind of my thoughts

1133
01:08:29,690 --> 01:08:41,730
absolutely um and despite car's tone no one died so uh uh anyway yeah uh sorry about the green

1134
01:08:41,730 --> 01:08:47,030
screen too by the way um what do you think i didn't it's really green right it's it's quite

1135
01:08:47,030 --> 01:08:56,290
green um what we we need a sponsor hey reach out dosakis we should hello ladies joe welcome back

1136
01:08:56,290 --> 01:08:57,790
to another exciting episode of Sacker News Live.

1137
01:08:57,850 --> 01:08:59,430
My name is Carm with Keon.

1138
01:09:00,010 --> 01:09:01,070
Keon, how's your Friday going?

1139
01:09:01,330 --> 01:09:02,770
Oh, man, it's a good Friday.

1140
01:09:02,930 --> 01:09:05,330
I think I got bit by a dog last night.

1141
01:09:06,710 --> 01:09:06,910
Where?

1142
01:09:07,030 --> 01:09:07,610
On the way home?

1143
01:09:07,750 --> 01:09:09,850
On my walk home, there was like a dog

1144
01:09:09,850 --> 01:09:10,850
that was out of its yard,

1145
01:09:11,030 --> 01:09:12,070
and I thought it would be like a cool...

1146
01:09:12,070 --> 01:09:14,050
I walked by so many dogs that were out of the yards,

1147
01:09:14,750 --> 01:09:16,270
and I thought it'd be a cool dog,

1148
01:09:16,350 --> 01:09:17,950
but it started charging me.

1149
01:09:18,190 --> 01:09:19,130
What kind of dog was it?

1150
01:09:19,230 --> 01:09:21,210
It was like a little tiny, you know, dog.

1151
01:09:21,610 --> 01:09:22,790
You made it seem like...

1152
01:09:22,790 --> 01:09:24,850
I was thinking it was like some Doberman Pinscher.

1153
01:09:24,850 --> 01:09:27,930
well I'm not in the hospital or something it was just like a little tiny

1154
01:09:27,930 --> 01:09:32,970
dog but it was like rabbit it like it like chased me and then I started

1155
01:09:32,970 --> 01:09:36,630
I kind of like tried to you know run away

1156
01:09:36,630 --> 01:09:40,950
and it's like it's dog friend from

1157
01:09:40,950 --> 01:09:44,930
the same yard also escaped to the yard and then they both started like

1158
01:09:44,930 --> 01:09:48,690
nipping at my ankles

1159
01:09:48,690 --> 01:09:52,830
yeah it's the first time it's I mean it's surprising it's the first time it's happened that

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01:09:52,830 --> 01:09:59,530
happened the first stop story is gold holder hoarders were persecuted in the 1930s what will

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01:09:59,530 --> 01:10:06,630
happen with bitcoin this is from signal 312 23 hours ago a bitcoin post 31 comments 18 400 sats

1162
01:10:06,630 --> 01:10:13,890
yeah this is really cool so uh i don't know like a lot a lot of us you know kind of anticipate

1163
01:10:13,890 --> 01:10:20,390
uh when bitcoin becomes successful that it might you know the government might dip back into

1164
01:10:20,390 --> 01:10:25,210
its playbook with gold and start seizing Bitcoin.

1165
01:10:25,530 --> 01:10:27,950
And so if you wanted to be prepared for that,

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01:10:28,030 --> 01:10:30,090
what you would do is you would go back

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01:10:30,090 --> 01:10:33,170
and study as much of that period of history as you can.

1168
01:10:33,170 --> 01:10:34,510
Is this what this person did?

1169
01:10:34,630 --> 01:10:35,330
That's what they did.

1170
01:10:35,410 --> 01:10:38,210
They went and they did a bunch of research

1171
01:10:38,210 --> 01:10:40,510
and pulled up as many, you know, a bunch of articles

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01:10:40,510 --> 01:10:42,670
roughly from the, around the, you know,

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01:10:42,690 --> 01:10:46,010
basically right after, I believe it was,

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01:10:46,210 --> 01:10:50,250
Roosevelt enacted Executive Order 6102

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01:10:50,250 --> 01:10:53,410
which pretty much made it illegal to own gold.

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01:10:55,670 --> 01:10:58,310
These are from the papers,

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01:10:58,490 --> 01:11:01,010
so this is kind of public sentiment around it

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01:11:01,010 --> 01:11:04,510
and filtered through, of course, media like today.

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01:11:06,390 --> 01:11:12,290
Basically, a lot of it demonizes

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01:11:12,290 --> 01:11:15,290
people who are possessing gold

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01:11:15,290 --> 01:11:16,510
and not giving it back to the government.

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01:11:17,190 --> 01:11:18,390
I believe around this period of time,

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01:11:18,390 --> 01:11:21,790
there was liquidity problems

1184
01:11:21,790 --> 01:11:25,030
and the government needed its gold back

1185
01:11:25,030 --> 01:11:30,010
to be able to meet its own fiscal needs.

1186
01:11:30,950 --> 01:11:32,390
And so these people were seen

1187
01:11:32,390 --> 01:11:34,530
as kind of like enemies of the United States

1188
01:11:34,530 --> 01:11:36,230
is kind of the framing.

1189
01:11:36,590 --> 01:11:37,930
I feel like this post never ends.

1190
01:11:38,510 --> 01:11:39,550
It's a very long post.

1191
01:11:39,890 --> 01:11:41,130
Did you read through all of it?

1192
01:11:41,190 --> 01:11:42,230
I read through all of it.

1193
01:11:42,290 --> 01:11:43,950
I mean, it's a pretty simple read.

1194
01:11:44,070 --> 01:11:46,030
I don't know if we wrote more simply

1195
01:11:46,030 --> 01:11:47,190
back then or something,

1196
01:11:47,190 --> 01:11:49,430
but it's a pretty straightforward read.

1197
01:11:49,550 --> 01:11:51,330
At both the front and the end,

1198
01:11:51,550 --> 01:11:53,570
there's commentary from the person

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01:11:53,570 --> 01:11:56,730
who aggregated all of the research.

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01:11:57,550 --> 01:12:00,850
But at the bottom he says,

1201
01:12:00,910 --> 01:12:04,470
my biggest takeaway is privacy and non-KYC Bitcoin

1202
01:12:04,470 --> 01:12:05,730
is more important than you think.

1203
01:12:06,030 --> 01:12:08,230
So part of what happened here

1204
01:12:08,230 --> 01:12:11,010
that allowed them to be quite successful

1205
01:12:11,010 --> 01:12:13,650
in repossessing all the gold

1206
01:12:13,650 --> 01:12:20,270
was every time you would go and get gold from the bank,

1207
01:12:20,350 --> 01:12:21,870
you would be entered in a registry.

1208
01:12:23,010 --> 01:12:25,190
Similar to what they're doing right now with exchanges, right?

1209
01:12:25,310 --> 01:12:25,610
Yeah.

1210
01:12:25,810 --> 01:12:29,290
So it's like they KYC'd you for owning gold.

1211
01:12:30,510 --> 01:12:34,350
And when they wanted your gold,

1212
01:12:34,410 --> 01:12:37,070
what they did was they put out basically a warrant

1213
01:12:37,070 --> 01:12:39,870
for everyone on this list to return their gold

1214
01:12:39,870 --> 01:12:41,550
and had the expectation.

1215
01:12:41,550 --> 01:12:45,710
there's there's then here there's documented like people who weren't going to give it back freely

1216
01:12:45,710 --> 01:12:49,330
that could really happen to take it to court do you think we're headed in that direction

1217
01:12:49,330 --> 01:12:53,630
like honestly i don't know i mean i don't know what the future holds this is something

1218
01:12:53,630 --> 01:12:59,830
governments are capable of doing these are things that you know in texas so newspapers printed i

1219
01:12:59,830 --> 01:13:08,410
don't i mean i think you know texas is quite uh you know it's political leanings tend to blow

1220
01:13:08,410 --> 01:13:13,470
around a bit. I think, you know, if it becomes like, this is a, you know, if the framing is,

1221
01:13:13,530 --> 01:13:18,350
this is a national, this is in the national security interest. This is for the United States.

1222
01:13:18,350 --> 01:13:25,630
This is for a war against Russia or China or whoever becomes like Bitcoiners are, are Russian

1223
01:13:25,630 --> 01:13:31,470
and Chinese. Like that's, that's what, you know, if it gets framed that way, the free state of,

1224
01:13:31,470 --> 01:13:38,710
of texas now becomes like uh not so free because because freedom is about protecting ourselves from

1225
01:13:38,710 --> 01:13:45,430
our enemies or whatever and then we're the enemy and it's like uh i think it can happen to it i

1226
01:13:45,430 --> 01:13:52,050
mean i don't i don't know if it will happen but this this is clearly in the human's wheelhouse of

1227
01:13:52,050 --> 01:13:57,070
like things things that they things that they will do that's why learning that's why learning

1228
01:13:57,070 --> 01:14:01,590
about history is so important if you want to predict the future yeah let's look at what the

1229
01:14:01,590 --> 01:14:06,370
stacker said the stacker said top comment from lux it's not about privacy it's about knowing how to

1230
01:14:06,370 --> 01:14:11,270
exercise your rights the order applies only to persons not to living men you either govern

1231
01:14:11,270 --> 01:14:17,450
yourself or someone else will yeah darth coin says i do not consent to be governed show me the

1232
01:14:17,450 --> 01:14:21,330
contract signed by both parties me and the government in which i agree to be governed

1233
01:14:21,330 --> 01:14:27,970
does it exist this is darth coin stance that's pretty pretty hard stance govern me harder governor

1234
01:14:27,970 --> 01:14:31,850
that's what that's the opposite of that i mentioned don't try to bend the government

1235
01:14:31,850 --> 01:14:36,550
that's impossible instead only try to realize the truth there is no government only banks and

1236
01:14:36,550 --> 01:14:42,790
corporations wow that's pretty based um yeah loving these images now you guys upgraded the

1237
01:14:42,790 --> 01:14:49,010
images right yeah exist uh spent a lot of time and work really making sure that that was that

1238
01:14:49,010 --> 01:14:55,870
worked great we're proxying them for your privacy so uh you don't you're not leaking your ip addresses

1239
01:14:55,870 --> 01:15:00,650
around the internet it looks like darth coin also linked this website i'm afraid to click on it but

1240
01:15:00,650 --> 01:15:10,670
here we go okay 6102 bitcoin.com what is going on what is this did you look at it oh wow oh is

1241
01:15:10,670 --> 01:15:15,530
this maybe like a war game what oh this is oh oh interesting yeah this is like this is thinking

1242
01:15:15,530 --> 01:15:24,030
through uh them trying to you know take down bitcoin wow interesting okay well check out that

1243
01:15:24,030 --> 01:15:27,170
it looks like it's a github project so probably someone probably anonymously

1244
01:15:27,170 --> 01:15:33,510
give that one that's a good one um yeah we got kept bird he says certainly possible but very hard

1245
01:15:33,510 --> 01:15:37,950
to enforce due to the nature of bitcoin if this happens the best course of action would be to leave

1246
01:15:37,950 --> 01:15:42,710
which you'd need to prepare to do ahead of time plenty of nations would be happy to accept expats

1247
01:15:42,710 --> 01:15:50,090
with stacks us could get could get this desperate but if they do it's gonna seize being a place i'd

1248
01:15:50,090 --> 01:15:55,650
live i'd get my family out gosh dude well i mean what do you think these people did when this

1249
01:15:55,650 --> 01:16:00,570
happened i mean it's gonna be a lot easier to flee with bitcoin than anything else but if you're on

1250
01:16:00,570 --> 01:16:06,630
one of these lists why wouldn't you know one of the first things they might do is uh block your

1251
01:16:06,630 --> 01:16:13,890
passport um from you know from international travel from leaving uh you just don't know i think

1252
01:16:13,890 --> 01:16:21,070
you know soothing yourself by saying this kind of stuff can't happen or won't happen this time

1253
01:16:21,070 --> 01:16:27,030
you're smarter uh the world is different i just you don't know it's better to be prepared for

1254
01:16:27,030 --> 01:16:32,230
for the worst yeah mallard said he said americans mostly handed their gold in voluntary as an act of

1255
01:16:32,230 --> 01:16:36,890
patriotism. There weren't any confiscations of individual gold. Prosecutions were rare

1256
01:16:36,890 --> 01:16:42,370
and imprisonment almost non-existent. It led to the big thing, which was the Gold Reserve Act of

1257
01:16:42,370 --> 01:16:47,210
1934, which dealt with removing the title of gold certificates, paper gold from private persons

1258
01:16:47,210 --> 01:16:51,690
institutions. The act of an order weren't repelled into 1964 and 1974, respectively,

1259
01:16:51,690 --> 01:16:56,110
Americans could legally hold gold for investment purposes. Gold hoarders weren't particularly

1260
01:16:56,110 --> 01:17:00,710
liked amongst the public at large because of who they were and how they talked, especially coming

1261
01:17:00,710 --> 01:17:03,290
of economic crisis with widespread poverty.

1262
01:17:03,550 --> 01:17:05,250
I hope Bitcoiners in the branding culture take note.

1263
01:17:06,150 --> 01:17:07,370
Yeah, I can see that.

1264
01:17:07,390 --> 01:17:08,650
I can see that scenario playing out

1265
01:17:08,650 --> 01:17:10,410
where they like blame us for everything.

1266
01:17:10,550 --> 01:17:11,930
I mean, we kind of have already seen that.

1267
01:17:12,330 --> 01:17:13,570
They just blame Bitcoiners on everything.

1268
01:17:14,490 --> 01:17:17,210
I suspect that's going to be a thing.

1269
01:17:17,650 --> 01:17:20,410
Yeah, I don't know what Mallardt is saying

1270
01:17:20,410 --> 01:17:25,490
that it wasn't that violent, the repossession of gold.

1271
01:17:26,090 --> 01:17:27,110
And that might be the case.

1272
01:17:27,110 --> 01:17:30,110
I don't actually know, but...

1273
01:17:30,710 --> 01:17:37,110
It tends to be the position of people who are pro-gold

1274
01:17:37,110 --> 01:17:40,550
and interested in gold that it wasn't so bad

1275
01:17:40,550 --> 01:17:44,150
the times when gold was repossessed.

1276
01:17:44,910 --> 01:17:46,530
So I don't know what to believe.

1277
01:17:46,670 --> 01:17:48,230
I don't know enough about the history here.

1278
01:17:48,450 --> 01:17:51,150
But this is a good post, good intro.

1279
01:17:51,150 --> 01:17:53,350
It gets us really started thinking about this stuff.

1280
01:17:53,690 --> 01:17:56,350
This is one you should definitely see Keon.

1281
01:17:56,690 --> 01:17:57,790
Oh, wow, you used it.

1282
01:17:58,510 --> 01:18:00,030
Karna has one bookmark.

1283
01:18:00,030 --> 01:18:01,390
Come back to this later.

1284
01:18:01,390 --> 01:18:01,810
Ten years.

1285
01:18:01,810 --> 01:18:03,970
No, I have like several bookmarks.

1286
01:18:04,650 --> 01:18:05,830
Just started using it more.

1287
01:18:06,210 --> 01:18:07,330
My name is Kiana.

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01:18:07,910 --> 01:18:08,850
Brother Kiana.

1289
01:18:08,870 --> 01:18:10,010
Welcome to Plob Lab.

1290
01:18:10,430 --> 01:18:13,710
Let's jump into the top five stories of the week on Stacker News.

1291
01:18:13,990 --> 01:18:20,730
The first top story is a perfect visualization of how absurd KYC AML is.

1292
01:18:21,150 --> 01:18:21,990
This is from BirdEyeT.

1293
01:18:22,130 --> 01:18:25,430
Let's jump into the top five stories of the week on Stacker News.

1294
01:18:25,430 --> 01:18:32,430
The first top story is a perfect visualization of how absurd KYC AML is.

1295
01:18:32,810 --> 01:18:34,790
This is from BirdEye21, October 22nd.

1296
01:18:34,830 --> 01:18:39,130
Bitcoin posts 36 comments, 7,487 sats.

1297
01:18:39,790 --> 01:18:40,330
What is this, Cam?

1298
01:18:40,630 --> 01:18:52,710
Yeah, this is pretty, I mean, so I had no idea how absurdly inefficient or ineffective AML and KYC regulations are.

1299
01:18:52,710 --> 01:19:05,250
But this graph, as BirdEye calls it, is a perfect visualization of it, where on the left-hand side, you have the costs that are associated with complying with AML and KYC.

1300
01:19:05,810 --> 01:19:08,630
And that's, like, paid for by the economy, by the market.

1301
01:19:08,850 --> 01:19:13,590
And then on the right, you have what the government actually confiscates.

1302
01:19:14,110 --> 01:19:16,710
So it just shows, like, the impact of—

1303
01:19:16,710 --> 01:19:24,670
This is, I've never done a round of applause for a post before, but like, this is exactly why we Bitcoin dude.

1304
01:19:25,330 --> 01:19:26,470
Look at this, man.

1305
01:19:26,810 --> 01:19:27,390
Yeah, it's crazy.

1306
01:19:27,530 --> 01:19:35,890
There's a, he actually links to a really great Substack article that breaks all of this down and explains where all the stats come from.

1307
01:19:35,890 --> 01:19:39,590
And like, you know, the history to some extent of them.

1308
01:19:39,590 --> 01:19:46,530
but it kind of goes to show that like if you're implementing like this is like a great case this

1309
01:19:46,530 --> 01:19:52,730
is a great example of uh implementing something and not measuring its impact and continuing to

1310
01:19:52,730 --> 01:19:57,270
double down on something you've implemented without measuring its impact and that's you know so that's

1311
01:19:57,270 --> 01:20:05,030
what these policies are they're like this they're they're extremely ineffective yet there's no every

1312
01:20:05,030 --> 01:20:10,510
i feel like every couple of months there's like a new there's a new regulation someone's trying to

1313
01:20:10,510 --> 01:20:18,590
pile on top of these you know so crazy dude yeah and this is is this i wonder if he added in the um

1314
01:20:19,630 --> 01:20:25,790
uh just the infrastructure as well too you probably did uh and then just if you think

1315
01:20:25,790 --> 01:20:31,010
about it just like on a local level all the extra jobs that probably shouldn't be there

1316
01:20:31,010 --> 01:20:36,690
extra buildings that aren't being used i mean and and taking into account that he probably didn't

1317
01:20:36,690 --> 01:20:44,210
even account that and i mean who knows uh the the main top uh comment was uh from oci zero zero he

1318
01:20:44,210 --> 01:20:48,990
said or she said as someone working in the financial industry i can confirm that kyc requirements

1319
01:20:48,990 --> 01:20:53,750
imposed by the eu are kind of nuts for every financial institution not only because to some

1320
01:20:53,750 --> 01:20:58,230
extent they harm privacy beyond any reasonable suspicion that someone can commit money laundering

1321
01:20:58,230 --> 01:21:02,410
but the fact just mentioned creates a very dangerous way of thinking basically european

1322
01:21:02,410 --> 01:21:08,450
policymakers are telling financial institutions operate as if all your clients are fraudsters

1323
01:21:08,450 --> 01:21:13,590
even if there's no reasonable proof of this fact i find this deeply disturbing and borderline

1324
01:21:13,590 --> 01:21:18,190
disgusting to be honest and then you got blockchain boot coming up right behind it why don't the

1325
01:21:18,190 --> 01:21:22,490
constituents in the eu ever change this law do they have a lobby problem like the u.s

1326
01:21:22,490 --> 01:21:29,890
and he goes into it a little bit more what do you think you know yeah i mean i think uh i think this

1327
01:21:29,890 --> 01:21:34,990
is a problem in all governments i think they i think we all they all they have like kind of a

1328
01:21:34,990 --> 01:21:42,410
herd mentality and so one of them begins doing something and seems really they're like very

1329
01:21:42,410 --> 01:21:48,150
emphatic about how effective it is and how much good it's doing and then a bunch of them do it too

1330
01:21:48,150 --> 01:21:54,410
was listening to a podcast with uh natalie smolensky recently and she described a phenomena

1331
01:21:54,410 --> 01:22:00,670
where a lot of legislators when they get into office because it's their job to legislate what

1332
01:22:00,670 --> 01:22:07,030
they begin doing is pushing laws even laws they don't really have much interest in because they

1333
01:22:07,030 --> 01:22:13,530
need to show something next like next time there there's a vote on like on who gets to run and it's

1334
01:22:13,530 --> 01:22:18,390
like well i i participated in all these things look at me i did i did things while i was here

1335
01:22:18,390 --> 01:22:22,870
and i think that's kind of interesting so i think that's a lot you know a large extent how

1336
01:22:22,870 --> 01:22:28,690
the government has run overall like the incentives are whack like it doesn't they don't they don't

1337
01:22:28,690 --> 01:22:33,350
line up yeah you also have two large pizzas jumping in he says you make a good point but

1338
01:22:33,350 --> 01:22:38,710
i'll raise you one more does kyc actually stopped the criminals at all perhaps the criminals are not

1339
01:22:38,710 --> 01:22:43,750
stupid and they still managed to flow their funds around regardless of kyc then he uh he shows this

1340
01:22:43,750 --> 01:22:49,910
graph right here and i can't really see it but um yeah it's uh it's pretty pretty clear that uh

1341
01:22:50,790 --> 01:22:54,790
it doesn't yeah there's a i mean there's a whole bunch of news going on right now about

1342
01:22:54,790 --> 01:22:57,190
uh elizabeth warren is trying to crack down on crypto

1343
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:04,300
stuff because of uh because she somehow there was like a wall street journal article or bloomberg

1344
01:23:04,300 --> 01:23:09,640
article or something that associated that said that hamas was was had like 130 million dollars

1345
01:23:09,640 --> 01:23:15,500
in crypto funding which has largely been discredited but uh and then and then so when

1346
01:23:15,500 --> 01:23:20,560
they try to figure out like how actually hamas received its funding it's using it's like using

1347
01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:26,620
traditional banking things it's using credit cards it's using uh like normal banking institutions

1348
01:23:26,620 --> 01:23:29,980
they're they're getting around like even despite all these things existing they're

1349
01:23:29,980 --> 01:23:39,760
they're not in their way yeah so dude fantastic post yeah very yeah this is like a high high

1350
01:23:39,760 --> 01:23:48,400
signal episode of stacker news live my name's car i'm i'm kian bff kian hello how's it going

1351
01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:51,840
now is that now the car thinks stacker news isn't gonna fail or

1352
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:59,660
dude we have always been best friends oh forever not forever but we've been best friends that's

1353
01:23:59,660 --> 01:24:03,680
true but yeah now i've added the forever because yeah you're not gonna fail yeah

1354
01:24:03,680 --> 01:24:09,760
now that i'm paying now he's getting paid a lot of sats on stacker news he's very oh yeah

1355
01:24:09,760 --> 01:24:14,980
yeah there's a lot of talk to talk about today um do you have anything do you have anything you

1356
01:24:14,980 --> 01:24:18,760
want to discuss before we jump into it i don't think so i don't have any complaints about my

1357
01:24:18,760 --> 01:24:26,680
neighbors no one stole any of my i my merch items i think i'm uh pretty so you've had a pretty good

1358
01:24:26,680 --> 01:24:31,520
week right uh it's not bad i've had trouble getting back into like coding after a bitcoin

1359
01:24:31,520 --> 01:24:35,360
conference like it was a little like there was just like so much going on there it's like i had

1360
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:41,020
to like compress it all and uh figure out like kind of what to do but i finally got back to coding

1361
01:24:41,020 --> 01:24:46,680
today so i'm pretty i mean i was coding throughout the week but i hadn't done i hadn't it was hard

1362
01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:52,200
like getting over the hump of like here's a new feature i'm gonna do so i finally did that no that

1363
01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:56,440
makes sense how about you how was your week uh it's been really fast dude like as soon as we got

1364
01:24:56,440 --> 01:25:01,000
back i was already kind of working throughout the week anyway just writing articles and then um

1365
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:06,760
we're working on bitcoin plus plus so i've been doing that most of this week and then i'm gonna

1366
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:13,080
be up here pretty late at plub lab burning the midnight oil yeah we gotta get it done

1367
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:20,400
say this is what we do for bitcoin okay let's jump into top post of the week kia top story of the

1368
01:25:20,400 --> 01:25:26,720
uh of the week is this was your top story really yeah i really liked i really i mean i just can't

1369
01:25:26,720 --> 01:25:30,060
i i was having like when this was announced that they were going to have a 60 minutes segment

1370
01:25:30,060 --> 01:25:35,000
because i know a bunch of old people who watch 60 minutes um it's this is like this is like boomer

1371
01:25:35,000 --> 01:25:40,220
hour i love 60 minutes on the weekend do you like it too i know i just love i love 60 minutes i've

1372
01:25:40,220 --> 01:25:45,040
always loved 60 minutes even when i was a kid i mean they they just kept it going for so long and

1373
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:49,320
a lot of boomers are into it and love it um and i'm like wow they're gonna they're gonna have a

1374
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:55,220
positive take on bitcoin on 60 minutes like this is awesome and when that when the announcement

1375
01:25:55,220 --> 01:26:00,760
came i was a little i was like a little bit concerned that maybe uh it wouldn't be a positive

1376
01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:06,080
take and they'd actually like crap all over uh bitcoin beach but it actually be it ended up being

1377
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:12,620
a pretty positive story they had jack mallers uh talking about bitcoin beach um i watched this

1378
01:26:12,620 --> 01:26:18,460
whole video here which was also shared on stacker news but uh it talks a lot about like how it's

1379
01:26:18,460 --> 01:26:22,540
changed a lot of people's lives how they're using bitcoin at you know how how some of the people

1380
01:26:22,540 --> 01:26:26,920
were so were super impoverished and didn't feel like they had much of a path and they kind of

1381
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:33,620
transitioned into like like using bitcoin the main fud that was brought up which is like maybe

1382
01:26:33,620 --> 01:26:35,980
one of the most valid FUDs of all the FUDs.

1383
01:26:36,020 --> 01:26:36,860
I kind of know what it's going to be.

1384
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:37,420
What is it?

1385
01:26:37,860 --> 01:26:38,220
Volatility.

1386
01:26:38,560 --> 01:26:39,580
Oh, no, I wasn't thinking that.

1387
01:26:39,720 --> 01:26:41,880
Yeah, it was volatility.

1388
01:26:42,140 --> 01:26:42,980
That was the main thing.

1389
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:45,680
It's that they didn't get...

1390
01:26:45,680 --> 01:26:48,140
None of the El Salvadorians that they talked to

1391
01:26:48,140 --> 01:26:51,900
brought up volatility as far as I remember.

1392
01:26:52,260 --> 01:26:52,560
It's Americans.

1393
01:26:53,240 --> 01:26:58,500
It was just like kind of CBS's own kind of commentary on it

1394
01:26:58,500 --> 01:26:59,700
was a bit about volatility.

1395
01:27:00,180 --> 01:27:02,000
But I imagine when you're actually deep

1396
01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:03,560
in a circular economy like this,

1397
01:27:03,620 --> 01:27:04,700
It doesn't matter.

1398
01:27:04,920 --> 01:27:06,360
It doesn't matter.

1399
01:27:06,680 --> 01:27:11,040
Like my bananas are priced at, you know, 10,000 sats for a bushel.

1400
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:19,800
And like it doesn't matter what the exchange rate of some currency is if I'm otherwise going somewhere else who prices all denominates all of their goods in Bitcoin.

1401
01:27:20,100 --> 01:27:24,460
So I think it matters less and less the more circular the economy is.

1402
01:27:24,600 --> 01:27:30,500
What's cool about this too, they also, I don't know if you've seen it, but they also talked about like the story of Bitcoin Beach, which they didn't know.

1403
01:27:31,020 --> 01:27:32,500
Did you know the story?

1404
01:27:32,500 --> 01:27:33,380
Yeah, I met Roman.

1405
01:27:33,620 --> 01:27:35,380
I met him at a Bitcoin conference.

1406
01:27:35,460 --> 01:27:36,180
We took a picture together.

1407
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:36,900
I put us on Twitter.

1408
01:27:37,300 --> 01:27:41,960
He was like one of the guys that inspired me to do what I do,

1409
01:27:42,040 --> 01:27:43,880
to start Austin Bitcoin Club, to do Plub Lab,

1410
01:27:44,100 --> 01:27:45,740
to do what I do in the community here in Austin.

1411
01:27:45,900 --> 01:27:47,260
Like it was because of that guy.

1412
01:27:48,580 --> 01:27:49,900
So yeah, I was super inspired.

1413
01:27:50,040 --> 01:27:50,540
I met him.

1414
01:27:50,600 --> 01:27:54,080
I told him all these personal things and like how much he meant to me.

1415
01:27:54,180 --> 01:27:56,180
And hopefully he's going to come visit Austin one day.

1416
01:27:56,300 --> 01:27:58,520
But yeah, this is touching, dude.

1417
01:27:59,100 --> 01:28:00,420
This is super touching for me.

1418
01:28:00,420 --> 01:28:03,160
Yeah, I had no idea how even Bitcoin Beach got started.

1419
01:28:03,620 --> 01:28:11,740
And I guess you knew already, but apparently what happened was there was a big, there was like a big donor, like a big private donor, someone who wanted to be anonymous.

1420
01:28:11,740 --> 01:28:15,640
And they kind of touched, I don't know, the dude who's...

1421
01:28:15,640 --> 01:28:17,140
It has to start that way.

1422
01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:23,060
Like it requires somebody, you know, literally spending their Bitcoin to make something like this happen.

1423
01:28:23,060 --> 01:28:28,860
Like in the early days of Austin Bitcoin Club and Plub Lab, like I spent a lot of my Bitcoin, but you have to do these things.

1424
01:28:28,940 --> 01:28:29,660
Like you have to.

1425
01:28:29,960 --> 01:28:32,140
That's the only way something will come out of it.

1426
01:28:32,140 --> 01:28:36,000
If you don't spend your Bitcoin to make something like this happen, then it's probably not going to happen.

1427
01:28:36,660 --> 01:28:39,880
But once you start doing it, other people come in and they start joining you.

1428
01:28:39,980 --> 01:28:41,940
And then before you know it, you don't have to spend any more Bitcoin.

1429
01:28:43,160 --> 01:28:45,240
Yeah, people will give you Bitcoin to do it.

1430
01:28:45,380 --> 01:28:46,400
You know what it's like, Kian.

1431
01:28:46,440 --> 01:28:48,660
You spend your Bitcoin for Pleb Lab, too.

1432
01:28:48,760 --> 01:28:49,400
So it's like.

1433
01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:49,840
Yeah.

1434
01:28:50,540 --> 01:28:50,900
Yep.

1435
01:28:51,580 --> 01:28:52,160
You have to.

1436
01:28:52,340 --> 01:28:53,580
That's the only way to make.

1437
01:28:53,580 --> 01:28:53,840
It hurts.

1438
01:28:54,280 --> 01:28:59,940
It hurts, but it's the only way to make this thing really work for the betterment of your community.

1439
01:28:59,940 --> 01:29:03,620
well i mean that's that's what that's what like that's what bitcoin is about or that's what wealth

1440
01:29:03,620 --> 01:29:08,460
is about it's not i mean i don't there's no point in like hoarding it it's like the used you only

1441
01:29:08,460 --> 01:29:11,880
want but you want to spend it on things that you really want to see in the world and so exactly

1442
01:29:11,880 --> 01:29:16,680
that's that's what that's what that's what like getting wealthy is about for me uh like should

1443
01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:21,980
should i ever get wealthy i the whole point of it is so that i can manifest the things that i want

1444
01:29:21,980 --> 01:29:30,060
to see in the world absolutely and uh it's really not um you know more uh goldman sachs or uh

1445
01:29:30,060 --> 01:29:37,080
morgan stanley's uh that's really not i think a manifestation of the the world i want but um

1446
01:29:37,080 --> 01:29:41,040
yeah it was a beautiful beautiful story beautiful touching story it was great to meet roman

1447
01:29:41,040 --> 01:29:46,220
i love seeing this kind of stuff on 60 minutes 60 minutes is such a high quality who's roman i mean

1448
01:29:46,220 --> 01:29:47,800
to people who maybe don't know.

1449
01:29:49,580 --> 01:29:52,480
I don't want to mispronounce his nickname,

1450
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,880
but it's, is it Chimbera?

1451
01:29:55,340 --> 01:29:56,280
Yeah, I think so.

1452
01:29:57,060 --> 01:29:57,960
Okay, and what is he?

1453
01:29:58,460 --> 01:30:00,580
He was a Bitcoin Beach organizer.

1454
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:01,200
Okay.

1455
01:30:01,320 --> 01:30:03,140
And they're making the Bitcoin Beach wallet.

1456
01:30:03,960 --> 01:30:04,580
Oh, okay.

1457
01:30:04,800 --> 01:30:05,040
Yeah.

1458
01:30:05,840 --> 01:30:06,220
Oh.

1459
01:30:08,040 --> 01:30:10,020
You were right there when I met him.

1460
01:30:10,380 --> 01:30:11,700
Oh, at the bar?

1461
01:30:12,000 --> 01:30:13,940
No, at the Bitcoin conference.

1462
01:30:13,940 --> 01:30:16,060
At the Genesis station, we saw Kyle speak.

1463
01:30:16,220 --> 01:30:23,780
oh right yes that dude yeah yeah okay yeah i didn't yeah i think you didn't put two together

1464
01:30:23,780 --> 01:30:29,360
yeah no i'm i'm yeah yeah i i mean that everything was such a blur you know yeah you were drunk half

1465
01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:35,340
the time i was i was just i was wasted high on all kinds of drugs that people would sober sally

1466
01:30:35,340 --> 01:30:40,820
just like me all right everybody cheers to the new pleb lab

1467
01:30:40,820 --> 01:30:41,260
Cheers.

1468
01:30:41,780 --> 01:30:42,140
Cheers.

1469
01:30:43,560 --> 01:30:44,620
Let's fuck this.

1470
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:45,700
I think it's lame.

1471
01:30:46,300 --> 01:30:46,840
Why are they suing you?

1472
01:30:46,840 --> 01:30:48,320
I only read the headline.

1473
01:30:48,520 --> 01:30:49,220
This looks like a CBS.

1474
01:30:49,440 --> 01:30:50,820
Looks like they should be suing CBS.

1475
01:30:51,020 --> 01:30:53,760
Dude, they have like the whole government is staffed with lawyers.

1476
01:30:53,980 --> 01:30:55,580
They don't have anything better to do.

1477
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:57,720
They see something that has their logo on it,

1478
01:30:57,720 --> 01:31:00,660
and they're just going to cry about it.

1479
01:31:01,100 --> 01:31:01,800
Oh, wow.

1480
01:31:01,920 --> 01:31:04,320
They sent it to Zach, dude.

1481
01:31:06,220 --> 01:31:07,460
To Zach Zach?

1482
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:08,580
Zach Zach, yeah.

1483
01:31:09,020 --> 01:31:09,460
Wow.

1484
01:31:10,820 --> 01:31:19,740
wait is that yes yes that's his email address doxed uh no it's all oh i see oh it is wow they

1485
01:31:19,740 --> 01:31:26,520
use the same the same dude yeah he's very popular oh i had no idea so pleb lab has a as a law as a

1486
01:31:26,520 --> 01:31:31,920
lawyer as an advisor i've also used zach no zach's great dude he's uh it was funny did you see him in

1487
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:36,460
slack today he was he was like don't say anything but he was like chiming in about all this stuff

1488
01:31:36,460 --> 01:31:41,420
anyway i didn't see it at all it's uh it's pretty it's pretty fascinating i would say

1489
01:31:41,420 --> 01:31:45,380
go check it out i think personally like i think what you see here is just the same thing that

1490
01:31:45,380 --> 01:31:49,920
happened to us early on is we got sued by south by southwest because we showed you didn't get sued

1491
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:55,080
huh you didn't get sued you got we got cease and desist because we we tried doing sats by here in

1492
01:31:55,080 --> 01:32:00,160
austin and uh they've been doing south by southwest for like 20 years or whatever and we slightly

1493
01:32:00,160 --> 01:32:05,600
adjusted the set south by southwest to have a lightning symbol and then they sent us a cease

1494
01:32:05,600 --> 01:32:11,840
and then we had to pull that logo and then now that's why we call it satsby um so that's why we

1495
01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:17,460
have to run and call it satsby instead of you know yeah before but it happens this is normal

1496
01:32:17,460 --> 01:32:34,348
in media typically you don sell merch around it though so i don know i don think i mean their logo isn even uh it like it aerial texts you know extra bold aerial texts Yeah actually I think I have a let me see do I still have that in here

1497
01:32:34,348 --> 01:32:35,528
Is it like a, like what?

1498
01:32:35,648 --> 01:32:38,908
Let me see, oh yeah, what font, let me see if I can do that.

1499
01:32:39,508 --> 01:32:40,448
Yeah, it's Open Sans.

1500
01:32:41,388 --> 01:32:42,948
That's like an open source font.

1501
01:32:43,328 --> 01:32:45,188
I don't understand, they can't write.

1502
01:32:45,248 --> 01:32:46,608
Probably this right here, maybe?

1503
01:32:46,868 --> 01:32:51,448
No, the Fed now can't have that eyeball in it, that's like part of what the parody is.

1504
01:32:51,448 --> 01:32:53,548
Yeah, I always use this font all the time.

1505
01:32:53,668 --> 01:32:54,248
Let me see.

1506
01:32:54,808 --> 01:32:57,868
What's nice is that, I mean, so this implies they might be paying attention.

1507
01:32:58,088 --> 01:33:00,248
Because who, I don't know anyone who owns that shirt.

1508
01:33:00,568 --> 01:33:01,208
I don't know anyone.

1509
01:33:01,248 --> 01:33:01,648
I don't know.

1510
01:33:01,828 --> 01:33:03,668
I kind of want to buy it now.

1511
01:33:03,888 --> 01:33:04,808
I kind of want to buy it now.

1512
01:33:04,928 --> 01:33:08,708
Oh, I mean, this is probably great for their merch right now.

1513
01:33:08,808 --> 01:33:10,448
Buy it before they run out of it, guys.

1514
01:33:10,448 --> 01:33:10,828
And the Fed now, yeah.

1515
01:33:11,368 --> 01:33:11,848
Look at that.

1516
01:33:12,328 --> 01:33:13,128
Get it now, Snickers.

1517
01:33:13,308 --> 01:33:13,888
Do they sell them?

1518
01:33:14,148 --> 01:33:15,028
Yeah, 49, really.

1519
01:33:16,168 --> 01:33:17,748
That beanie might be interesting.

1520
01:33:19,068 --> 01:33:19,328
Yeah.

1521
01:33:20,248 --> 01:33:20,768
We'll see.

1522
01:33:20,768 --> 01:33:21,728
Can you go back to that beanie?

1523
01:33:21,788 --> 01:33:22,928
How did they get that beanie printed?

1524
01:33:23,068 --> 01:33:23,928
It's like full.

1525
01:33:24,728 --> 01:33:25,508
It's a very.

1526
01:33:25,828 --> 01:33:26,188
This looks like.

1527
01:33:28,008 --> 01:33:28,928
That looks like.

1528
01:33:29,088 --> 01:33:30,468
Yeah, it looks like original stitching, bro.

1529
01:33:31,608 --> 01:33:31,968
I don't know.

1530
01:33:31,988 --> 01:33:33,908
They do high quality stuff at Bitcoin Magazine, man.

1531
01:33:34,728 --> 01:33:35,688
They do high quality stuff.

1532
01:33:36,148 --> 01:33:37,728
Anyways, just wanted to bring that up.

1533
01:33:37,788 --> 01:33:38,488
I thought I was entering.

1534
01:33:38,748 --> 01:33:39,808
Did the stacker say anything?

1535
01:33:40,068 --> 01:33:42,788
Darth Quinn says, I thought this was one of the Bitcoin bugle news.

1536
01:33:43,708 --> 01:33:43,888
Yeah.

1537
01:33:44,108 --> 01:33:45,308
Yeah, Bitcoin bugle's been.

1538
01:33:45,388 --> 01:33:45,928
Crazy, dude.

1539
01:33:46,708 --> 01:33:49,528
So every pleb running a web store with shirts, you know,

1540
01:33:49,528 --> 01:33:52,628
what your next design should be from no account.

1541
01:33:52,888 --> 01:33:54,608
Yeah, he has a good, yeah.

1542
01:33:55,328 --> 01:33:56,608
Anyway, that's all the top stories.

1543
01:33:56,728 --> 01:33:58,728
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, forever.

1544
01:33:59,708 --> 01:34:00,968
We're going on to your strong end.

1545
01:34:01,588 --> 01:34:02,988
That's not forever, but.

1546
01:34:03,248 --> 01:34:05,908
The next top story is the Pleb Devs backend courses here.

1547
01:34:06,368 --> 01:34:08,268
This is from Bitcoin Pleb Dev, number 27th,

1548
01:34:08,268 --> 01:34:13,088
Bitcoin post, 32 comments, 50K boost, 65K sets.

1549
01:34:13,088 --> 01:34:14,188
We have a special guest.

1550
01:34:14,548 --> 01:34:15,428
Oh, we have a special guest.

1551
01:34:15,548 --> 01:34:15,848
Oh, wow.

1552
01:34:15,888 --> 01:34:17,568
Is Mr. Pleb Dev here in the house right now?

1553
01:34:17,928 --> 01:34:18,628
Oh, he is.

1554
01:34:18,628 --> 01:34:20,468
The comeback kid has joined us.

1555
01:34:20,688 --> 01:34:21,148
He's gone.

1556
01:34:21,548 --> 01:34:22,448
Do you want to bring a chair over?

1557
01:34:22,828 --> 01:34:22,988
Yeah.

1558
01:34:23,928 --> 01:34:26,228
Yeah, just use Jimbo's.

1559
01:34:27,468 --> 01:34:32,068
So Austin has been working hard on this for over a year, dude.

1560
01:34:32,348 --> 01:34:33,888
I want to say since last November.

1561
01:34:34,068 --> 01:34:34,988
He's literally been.

1562
01:34:35,688 --> 01:34:36,908
No, last December.

1563
01:34:36,908 --> 01:34:40,048
I want to say he's literally been like planning this out.

1564
01:34:41,188 --> 01:34:42,108
And he.

1565
01:34:42,668 --> 01:34:43,728
I'm going to come over here in the middle.

1566
01:34:43,948 --> 01:34:46,668
He has put a lot of work into it.

1567
01:34:46,668 --> 01:34:53,308
uh him and logan have been um working on it but let's go austin austin talk about

1568
01:34:53,308 --> 01:34:56,868
am i among the stackers right now you are oh wow you're wearing the hat

1569
01:34:56,868 --> 01:35:02,388
he gots the swag it's a daily driver uh you've heard so the stackers why you don't watch the show

1570
01:35:02,388 --> 01:35:09,268
why i don't watch the show well i normally watch the show when i'm mentioned only or when one of

1571
01:35:09,268 --> 01:35:13,228
my friends is mentioned which is pretty often but no that's not true i've been watching it more

1572
01:35:13,228 --> 01:35:16,228
I thought you said the other day, you were like, this is the one I have to say.

1573
01:35:16,568 --> 01:35:18,848
No, I was just joking.

1574
01:35:19,028 --> 01:35:19,528
I don't care.

1575
01:35:19,668 --> 01:35:20,588
I don't get paid for this.

1576
01:35:20,968 --> 01:35:22,348
Well, Jana watches.

1577
01:35:22,588 --> 01:35:23,388
You do get paid for that.

1578
01:35:24,128 --> 01:35:26,448
Jana will actually go back and watch the backlog.

1579
01:35:26,868 --> 01:35:29,588
She'll listen to the backlog like weeks, months ago.

1580
01:35:29,948 --> 01:35:30,248
Oh, cool.

1581
01:35:30,588 --> 01:35:31,708
So she's a real one for that.

1582
01:35:31,708 --> 01:35:32,988
So tell us all about Pleb Devs.

1583
01:35:33,468 --> 01:35:33,748
Yeah.

1584
01:35:34,288 --> 01:35:39,708
Well, Pleb Devs is just kind of the very small niche community right now, but it's basically

1585
01:35:39,708 --> 01:35:45,248
trying to answer the question of like, what is the journey to both learning how to code,

1586
01:35:45,328 --> 01:35:50,128
but then also building Bitcoin and Lightning apps. And something that's not talked about

1587
01:35:50,128 --> 01:35:54,968
a lot, like normally the people that build Bitcoin and Lightning apps, they were already

1588
01:35:54,968 --> 01:35:58,888
app developers. And then they learned about Lightning, they learned about Bitcoin. But

1589
01:35:58,888 --> 01:36:03,168
if you're a total noob, the journey is it's really daunting. It's really big. So this was

1590
01:36:03,168 --> 01:36:08,888
kind of my journey into Bitcoin. And through my experience and the insights I've learned,

1591
01:36:08,888 --> 01:36:13,128
And I'm trying to kind of like expedite and simplify the path to doing that.

1592
01:36:13,128 --> 01:36:17,928
So that's what this back-end course, this is the second course in our series.

1593
01:36:19,108 --> 01:36:21,748
Shout out to Logan for the awesome video.

1594
01:36:22,348 --> 01:36:23,728
Is Ben shooing you right here?

1595
01:36:23,908 --> 01:36:24,208
Yep.

1596
01:36:24,668 --> 01:36:25,028
Wow.

1597
01:36:25,448 --> 01:36:26,128
Ben shooes me.

1598
01:36:26,268 --> 01:36:28,948
This was one of my first ideas actually for the video.

1599
01:36:28,948 --> 01:36:29,488
Comes full circle.

1600
01:36:29,588 --> 01:36:30,688
Comes full circle now.

1601
01:36:31,288 --> 01:36:32,408
He got shooed from Marty.

1602
01:36:32,908 --> 01:36:34,628
Now Ben's shooing somebody else.

1603
01:36:35,208 --> 01:36:35,808
This is how it starts.

1604
01:36:35,928 --> 01:36:37,868
Don't shoo anybody in a year, Austin.

1605
01:36:38,888 --> 01:36:40,988
I will never shoot anyone, I promise.

1606
01:36:41,168 --> 01:36:44,208
I'm never going to let the shoe turn on the other foot.

1607
01:36:46,208 --> 01:36:50,108
But yeah, so this course is pretty big compared to the first one.

1608
01:36:50,168 --> 01:36:52,628
You need to have a little bit of JavaScript experience,

1609
01:36:52,868 --> 01:36:58,328
but the goal here was to give you both a back-end intro course,

1610
01:36:58,448 --> 01:37:00,328
so basically what you would learn in boot camp

1611
01:37:00,328 --> 01:37:01,748
if you were learning back-end development,

1612
01:37:02,088 --> 01:37:04,988
but then at the same time to teach you how to work with Lightning

1613
01:37:04,988 --> 01:37:06,868
to build a Lightning app.

1614
01:37:06,868 --> 01:37:13,668
um yeah so the the video here you're like struggling trying to figure out something and

1615
01:37:13,668 --> 01:37:19,988
then this magical man walks by who looks like kion's finger says you're missing a semicolon

1616
01:37:19,988 --> 01:37:27,628
kion had no idea i was saying yesterday i was like why does kion keep coming in all these videos

1617
01:37:27,628 --> 01:37:30,888
we have other really smart people here that could be in these videos i'm just saying

1618
01:37:30,888 --> 01:37:40,768
well originally we we are gonna have super uh super was gonna be the one to help me fix the

1619
01:37:40,768 --> 01:37:47,788
bug but super wasn't here so we we asked kian last moment yeah he was our fill-in yeah but it

1620
01:37:47,788 --> 01:37:53,408
makes sense kian is the type of guy that just walk by and yeah you're like you're like literally sit

1621
01:37:53,408 --> 01:37:59,228
right in front of him uh yeah this is great man i love what you did uh you have it available on

1622
01:37:59,228 --> 01:38:04,188
emeralize dude all it seems like a lot of people i know there's like somebody called the wild hustle

1623
01:38:04,188 --> 01:38:10,288
that's like jumping into it yep you can pay for it in bitcoin um yeah it's pretty thorough man can

1624
01:38:10,288 --> 01:38:14,788
you just kind of tell us a little bit about the lessons and what they can expect yeah it's basically

1625
01:38:14,788 --> 01:38:21,508
so it's it's kind of split up into three sections section one is is uh writing a server what is a

1626
01:38:21,508 --> 01:38:26,448
server what is an api like we define literally all of our terms and we start by learning node.js

1627
01:38:26,448 --> 01:38:29,128
which is just JavaScript for the backend,

1628
01:38:29,308 --> 01:38:30,568
JavaScript that runs on your machine.

1629
01:38:31,308 --> 01:38:32,488
So there's the server section.

1630
01:38:32,928 --> 01:38:34,408
There's the Lightning section

1631
01:38:34,408 --> 01:38:37,428
where we set up our local Lightning development environment

1632
01:38:37,428 --> 01:38:40,548
and connect into it and start sending payments.

1633
01:38:41,228 --> 01:38:42,868
And then the final section is database

1634
01:38:42,868 --> 01:38:45,848
where we learn all about databases from scratch

1635
01:38:45,848 --> 01:38:46,888
and set up our own database.

1636
01:38:47,848 --> 01:38:50,168
And then in the final lesson, we deploy everything.

1637
01:38:50,168 --> 01:38:54,168
How do we actually ship it straight into prod?

1638
01:38:55,068 --> 01:38:56,748
We learned how to do that at the very end.

1639
01:38:56,928 --> 01:38:59,948
So, you know, maybe you have some of the intro stuff figured out.

1640
01:39:00,468 --> 01:39:02,148
So maybe you don't need those lessons.

1641
01:39:02,268 --> 01:39:05,228
You can, you know, only you can pick and choose the lessons if you want.

1642
01:39:05,968 --> 01:39:09,648
And also all of the code, all of the slides are actually free on GitHub.

1643
01:39:09,888 --> 01:39:11,608
I think I linked to them in the post as well.

1644
01:39:11,648 --> 01:39:13,908
So if you don't want to pay, you know.

1645
01:39:14,428 --> 01:39:15,008
You should pay.

1646
01:39:15,088 --> 01:39:16,208
He worked really hard on this.

1647
01:39:16,208 --> 01:39:16,668
That's okay.

1648
01:39:16,668 --> 01:39:18,948
I feel guilty about charging for it at all.

1649
01:39:18,948 --> 01:39:21,428
So you put like well over 100 hours into this, right?

1650
01:39:22,348 --> 01:39:23,888
You know, maybe 100.

1651
01:39:24,168 --> 01:39:26,828
But yeah, it took a little longer than I wanted.

1652
01:39:27,348 --> 01:39:28,108
Support them, stackers.

1653
01:39:28,528 --> 01:39:32,168
But yeah, this is the second course for now.

1654
01:39:32,168 --> 01:39:35,008
We'll have more workshops coming out.

1655
01:39:35,868 --> 01:39:37,768
A third course, and then, you know,

1656
01:39:37,888 --> 01:39:40,408
I want to eventually take all this material

1657
01:39:40,408 --> 01:39:42,488
and build it into a type of boot camp.

1658
01:39:43,448 --> 01:39:44,668
We're a little while from that,

1659
01:39:44,808 --> 01:39:47,608
but that's what the future is looking like for me.

1660
01:39:47,828 --> 01:39:48,128
Great job.

1661
01:39:48,188 --> 01:39:49,208
Let's see what the stackers are saying.

1662
01:39:49,288 --> 01:39:51,488
The stackers, well, it looks like Nemo deleted his.

1663
01:39:51,488 --> 01:39:55,048
and then I think I said Ben Carmen shooting people.

1664
01:39:56,248 --> 01:39:59,268
But yeah, it looks like David Delby said

1665
01:39:59,268 --> 01:40:00,268
exactly what we've needed.

1666
01:40:00,428 --> 01:40:02,448
Congrats on getting this content recorded into the wild.

1667
01:40:02,568 --> 01:40:03,588
We'll be sure to get involved.

1668
01:40:03,728 --> 01:40:04,508
Great, thank you.

1669
01:40:05,728 --> 01:40:06,708
Let's effing go.

1670
01:40:06,988 --> 01:40:08,568
Why is there a lot of deleted stuff?

1671
01:40:09,248 --> 01:40:10,348
We're getting censored.

1672
01:40:10,608 --> 01:40:11,288
We're getting censored.

1673
01:40:12,548 --> 01:40:13,828
No, great job, man.

1674
01:40:15,528 --> 01:40:16,708
Kion, do you have anything to add?

1675
01:40:16,708 --> 01:40:19,268
I mean I think

1676
01:40:19,268 --> 01:40:22,668
I think Austin and I discussed this

1677
01:40:22,668 --> 01:40:25,008
I don't know around the time I first met Austin

1678
01:40:25,008 --> 01:40:28,568
like the need for something like this

1679
01:40:28,568 --> 01:40:31,968
or that I can see demand

1680
01:40:31,968 --> 01:40:34,748
in the market for something like this

1681
01:40:34,748 --> 01:40:37,148
so I think it's really cool that

1682
01:40:37,148 --> 01:40:40,008
he's meeting the demand when no one

1683
01:40:40,008 --> 01:40:43,528
when no one else is and I think he's really well suited

1684
01:40:43,528 --> 01:40:44,908
to meeting the demand as well

1685
01:40:44,908 --> 01:40:50,128
given that he's had an accelerated learning path for programming

1686
01:40:50,128 --> 01:40:53,068
and has come a long way.

1687
01:40:53,168 --> 01:40:56,748
I think, you know, he knows more about, you know,

1688
01:40:56,868 --> 01:41:00,868
the steep cliff than many people would.

1689
01:41:00,988 --> 01:41:02,668
And, yeah, so I think that's awesome.

1690
01:41:03,008 --> 01:41:04,908
Yeah, I think from my side, I'm just so proud of him.

1691
01:41:04,908 --> 01:41:08,428
And, like, seeing when I met Austin, when he first came in,

1692
01:41:09,368 --> 01:41:11,528
you know, he's just very hungry,

1693
01:41:11,748 --> 01:41:13,148
wanted to get out there and start doing things.

1694
01:41:13,148 --> 01:41:15,328
and it's just good to see him, see his transformation

1695
01:41:15,328 --> 01:41:18,308
over the course of however long it's been.

1696
01:41:18,508 --> 01:41:19,228
So proud of you, man.

1697
01:41:19,448 --> 01:41:19,988
Very proud of you.

1698
01:41:19,988 --> 01:41:20,428
It's a pleasure.

1699
01:41:21,228 --> 01:41:22,928
Yeah, if you want to learn how to code,

1700
01:41:24,408 --> 01:41:26,248
literally just hit me up, check out the material,

1701
01:41:26,428 --> 01:41:27,708
or, I mean, just DM me.

1702
01:41:27,768 --> 01:41:28,628
We can start from zero.

1703
01:41:28,828 --> 01:41:30,208
DM you where on Noster?

1704
01:41:31,208 --> 01:41:32,548
How many people do I have?

1705
01:41:32,768 --> 01:41:33,328
In the course.

1706
01:41:33,568 --> 01:41:35,168
In the new course?

1707
01:41:35,788 --> 01:41:37,588
So far, I think it's about 30.

1708
01:41:37,888 --> 01:41:38,248
Nice.

1709
01:41:38,668 --> 01:41:39,928
Across both the platforms.

1710
01:41:39,928 --> 01:41:44,868
So, you know, want to pump up those numbers, but people it's, it's not an intro.

1711
01:41:45,028 --> 01:41:48,488
Well, it is an intro course, but you need to have a little bit of programming experience.

1712
01:41:48,488 --> 01:41:54,228
So I still want to find all those people that still need to start from zero and connect with them.

1713
01:41:54,328 --> 01:42:06,076
So if that you you know definitely hit me up on Twitter on Noster You can find me under Pleb Devs Yeah The Pleb Devs Discord I link to that in the post And then I Bitcoin Pleb Dev everywhere else

1714
01:42:06,716 --> 01:42:07,036
Nice.

1715
01:42:07,276 --> 01:42:07,816
Thank you, Austin.

1716
01:42:07,916 --> 01:42:08,296
Thanks, y'all.

1717
01:42:10,816 --> 01:42:12,096
Episode of Stacker News Live.

1718
01:42:12,256 --> 01:42:13,076
I forgot the intro.

1719
01:42:13,616 --> 01:42:14,236
I don't know why.

1720
01:42:14,976 --> 01:42:15,796
I'm with my BFF.

1721
01:42:16,136 --> 01:42:17,516
What intro did you forget?

1722
01:42:18,036 --> 01:42:19,296
The whole like, you know, well.

1723
01:42:19,796 --> 01:42:20,396
I mean, you did.

1724
01:42:20,596 --> 01:42:21,876
It's like a whole windup I do.

1725
01:42:22,096 --> 01:42:22,596
Yeah, you do.

1726
01:42:22,696 --> 01:42:23,236
Yeah, it is.

1727
01:42:23,416 --> 01:42:23,896
I just forget.

1728
01:42:24,256 --> 01:42:27,456
let's jump into the top five stories

1729
01:42:27,456 --> 01:42:29,356
yeah it's got some good ones

1730
01:42:29,356 --> 01:42:31,116
this week so Hodlnut won his

1731
01:42:31,116 --> 01:42:31,896
lawsuit

1732
01:42:31,896 --> 01:42:35,456
by all definitions so

1733
01:42:35,456 --> 01:42:37,376
thank you for

1734
01:42:37,376 --> 01:42:38,576
all the plebs who helped

1735
01:42:38,576 --> 01:42:41,176
in this fight I don't I mean

1736
01:42:41,176 --> 01:42:43,376
I think they helped fund his legal battle

1737
01:42:43,376 --> 01:42:45,396
but now as a result of him

1738
01:42:45,396 --> 01:42:47,176
winning this legal battle

1739
01:42:47,176 --> 01:42:49,176
Craig Wright is now responsible

1740
01:42:49,176 --> 01:42:51,416
for paying

1741
01:42:51,416 --> 01:42:52,596
for all the lawyers fees

1742
01:42:52,596 --> 01:42:53,676
Oh, dude, really?

1743
01:42:53,936 --> 01:42:55,076
Yeah, this is pretty cool.

1744
01:42:55,076 --> 01:42:55,896
How much is that?

1745
01:42:57,676 --> 01:42:59,436
I think it's like 500 grand.

1746
01:43:00,076 --> 01:43:00,516
Wow.

1747
01:43:00,856 --> 01:43:01,876
Yeah, I mean.

1748
01:43:02,116 --> 01:43:02,916
Lawyers are expensive, man.

1749
01:43:03,056 --> 01:43:04,476
Yeah, lawyers are really expensive.

1750
01:43:05,736 --> 01:43:08,256
Especially ones that can win you a suit like this.

1751
01:43:08,396 --> 01:43:10,736
And it's pretty, I mean, it's pretty damning.

1752
01:43:10,736 --> 01:43:13,076
Like he won pretty handedly.

1753
01:43:13,216 --> 01:43:16,796
This wasn't like, I forget who had a lawsuit recently.

1754
01:43:17,056 --> 01:43:20,996
Was it like Bitcoin Python or something?

1755
01:43:21,096 --> 01:43:21,776
Bitcoin Cobra.

1756
01:43:22,596 --> 01:43:32,456
had a lawsuit, a similar lawsuit, and they didn't win as comprehensively as Hodlnott did.

1757
01:43:32,656 --> 01:43:39,356
They only, they got a dollar, they had to pay a dollar. But in this case, the judge said that

1758
01:43:39,356 --> 01:43:47,676
they acquitted Magnus or Hodlnott of all of the claims. They said he's not liable for any damages

1759
01:43:47,676 --> 01:43:58,396
and uh craig wright has to pay for the costs of his lawsuit against hodl not and and awesome um

1760
01:43:58,396 --> 01:44:04,856
didn't you know didn't exactly say uh that craig wright is a fraud um which i want to hear out of

1761
01:44:04,856 --> 01:44:10,216
a lawyer's or a judge's mouth at some point but it but if you read through it it's like there is

1762
01:44:10,216 --> 01:44:16,916
reason to basically the judge says there is reason to suspect craig is not being honest um and

1763
01:44:16,916 --> 01:44:21,096
that's awesome. I mean, I think, I think, I think this is the beginning of the end.

1764
01:44:21,156 --> 01:44:25,476
What do you think, what do you think really is the drive behind somebody like that? I think we

1765
01:44:25,476 --> 01:44:31,536
talked about it last time. Let's say hypothetically, like he is, you know, Satoshi, like, do you think,

1766
01:44:31,536 --> 01:44:35,976
do you think he really believes he's Satoshi or had a hand in it? Or do you think he's just, uh,

1767
01:44:36,856 --> 01:44:41,516
like, uh, you know, one of those people that just kind of. A grifter. Yeah. That does things like

1768
01:44:41,516 --> 01:44:45,896
these. So there's two possibilities. There's one, he's like, absolutely. He's delusional and actually

1769
01:44:45,896 --> 01:44:51,996
thinks he's he's satoshi on some level he thinks he actually is satoshi but is simultaneously

1770
01:44:51,996 --> 01:44:57,716
willing to like doctor evidence and stuff so it's illegal so it's yeah so it's very it's very

1771
01:44:57,716 --> 01:45:05,836
unlikely that he he uh is delusional because he's he's like unless he has like split personalities

1772
01:45:05,836 --> 01:45:12,276
or something and like but but the more likely scenario is he told someone early on that he

1773
01:45:12,276 --> 01:45:20,036
was satoshi and was intoxicated by the uh the response that he got telling someone he was satoshi

1774
01:45:20,036 --> 01:45:24,536
and then it just the lie built and built and i think they're oh well so you're saying it's like

1775
01:45:24,536 --> 01:45:29,056
something that he kind of stepped into somebody said about him and then he just had to keep

1776
01:45:29,056 --> 01:45:34,756
yeah he's like he's like yeah why don't i tell people i'm satoshi oh wow why wouldn't this be

1777
01:45:34,756 --> 01:45:38,956
how much i didn't think about how much money could i make if people believed i was satoshi

1778
01:45:38,956 --> 01:45:43,336
you have you probably i mean that's probably how something like this starts i i think but also he i

1779
01:45:43,336 --> 01:45:48,696
think has his people have like done deeper studies of craig right and i think they've discovered that

1780
01:45:48,696 --> 01:45:55,656
he has a history of being like a pathological liar like he is like perpetually a fraud um in

1781
01:45:55,656 --> 01:46:01,656
his life even prior to claiming he was satoshi uh i think you're right i think i think it's probably

1782
01:46:01,656 --> 01:46:05,356
the latter like you said i think it's one of those things where he like because i've done that before

1783
01:46:05,356 --> 01:46:08,776
where you like you know you're growing up and you tell your friends like oh yeah i have this new

1784
01:46:08,776 --> 01:46:10,596
football that came in for Christmas or something.

1785
01:46:10,896 --> 01:46:12,636
And they're like, yeah, we'll bring it in.

1786
01:46:12,676 --> 01:46:14,696
We're going to go play with it. And I'm like, oh, crap, mom, I don't have a

1787
01:46:14,696 --> 01:46:16,596
football. Can you buy me a football? And it just uses

1788
01:46:16,596 --> 01:46:18,596
this lie builds and builds, and you're just like, oh,

1789
01:46:18,676 --> 01:46:19,836
snap. No, yeah.

1790
01:46:19,996 --> 01:46:22,676
Yeah, you can imagine, like, as an early

1791
01:46:22,676 --> 01:46:24,576
boy, you're usually jockeying for

1792
01:46:24,576 --> 01:46:26,456
status, and you're like, yeah,

1793
01:46:26,616 --> 01:46:28,656
when I went on this vacation, I hooked up with

1794
01:46:28,656 --> 01:46:29,656
this girl. Yeah.

1795
01:46:30,316 --> 01:46:32,336
Yeah, they're like, is she right there?

1796
01:46:32,896 --> 01:46:34,596
They're like, how did that happen? And you're like,

1797
01:46:34,636 --> 01:46:36,516
do you just make up lie after lie

1798
01:46:36,516 --> 01:46:38,136
after lie, and it's just...

1799
01:46:38,136 --> 01:46:44,136
dang yeah but some people don't grow out of um out of that yeah like they don't realize the error

1800
01:46:44,136 --> 01:46:50,196
in that immediately well congratulations to hoddenaut uh yeah this is good news man this

1801
01:46:50,196 --> 01:46:53,496
is a good way to start hello ladies and welcome back to another exciting episode of stacker news

1802
01:46:53,496 --> 01:46:58,696
live i am with my bff here on a friday beautiful friday afternoon here in plub lab it's friday the

1803
01:46:58,696 --> 01:47:04,756
13th did you know oh wow do you feel lucky it's a scary fact i didn't know that yeah i i didn't

1804
01:47:04,756 --> 01:47:07,956
know that i didn't realize that either until someone texted me like watch out today i don't

1805
01:47:07,956 --> 01:47:08,416
I'm like, what?

1806
01:47:08,936 --> 01:47:10,296
Like for black cats or something?

1807
01:47:10,296 --> 01:47:11,656
I was like, what are you talking about?

1808
01:47:11,816 --> 01:47:13,036
It's Friday the 13th.

1809
01:47:13,056 --> 01:47:13,856
I'm like, oh, shit.

1810
01:47:14,216 --> 01:47:15,936
What would you watch out for?

1811
01:47:16,056 --> 01:47:16,256
Cool.

1812
01:47:16,296 --> 01:47:18,456
We're going to jump into our AMAs this week.

1813
01:47:18,516 --> 01:47:20,696
We had the first one from Jeff Booth.

1814
01:47:20,796 --> 01:47:24,056
65 comments, over 20,000 cents earned.

1815
01:47:25,196 --> 01:47:25,416
Wow.

1816
01:47:25,796 --> 01:47:26,056
Yeah.

1817
01:47:26,196 --> 01:47:28,296
So Jeff Booth stopped by, which is pretty cool.

1818
01:47:28,956 --> 01:47:32,596
He apparently logged in with Lightning, if you look at his user ID there.

1819
01:47:32,996 --> 01:47:35,516
He's the author of The Price of Tomorrow, which is an amazing book.

1820
01:47:35,576 --> 01:47:36,536
I definitely recommend reading.

1821
01:47:36,536 --> 01:47:43,316
and he's a general partner at ego death capital yeah uh what did you learn from uh the price of

1822
01:47:43,316 --> 01:47:48,356
tomorrow like what's i think i think the biggest thing was the whole moore's law thing right like

1823
01:47:48,356 --> 01:47:54,996
just in the real world and how software and automation can like it actually helps

1824
01:47:54,996 --> 01:48:02,116
society in general right it's the other way i guess the more we more we move to that the more

1825
01:48:02,116 --> 01:48:05,856
the less we actually have to do as a society.

1826
01:48:05,856 --> 01:48:08,416
So we need a harder currency like Bitcoin.

1827
01:48:09,156 --> 01:48:10,956
I don't remember exactly the thing,

1828
01:48:11,096 --> 01:48:12,016
but that was kind of.

1829
01:48:12,036 --> 01:48:13,196
Yeah, that seems to be his main point

1830
01:48:13,196 --> 01:48:15,156
is that technology in general

1831
01:48:15,156 --> 01:48:19,156
creates this accelerating deflation.

1832
01:48:20,036 --> 01:48:21,076
But we're in a world

1833
01:48:21,076 --> 01:48:23,136
where we have accelerating inflation.

1834
01:48:23,416 --> 01:48:23,896
Yeah, that thing.

1835
01:48:24,096 --> 01:48:24,356
Yeah.

1836
01:48:24,856 --> 01:48:29,076
And so we don't really get to benefit much

1837
01:48:29,076 --> 01:48:33,176
from all the technology improvements and stuff

1838
01:48:33,176 --> 01:48:35,316
and the wealth that it should be creating

1839
01:48:35,316 --> 01:48:37,116
because it's like inflated away from us.

1840
01:48:38,536 --> 01:48:39,616
That's like part of it.

1841
01:48:39,676 --> 01:48:42,476
But I know he probably speaks more about deflation,

1842
01:48:42,576 --> 01:48:45,516
I think, than anyone I've ever encountered

1843
01:48:45,516 --> 01:48:47,436
online or otherwise.

1844
01:48:48,416 --> 01:48:49,676
But yeah, great AMA.

1845
01:48:50,076 --> 01:48:51,616
Lots of people ask him a bunch of great questions.

1846
01:48:51,836 --> 01:48:53,856
He comes from an entrepreneurial background.

1847
01:48:53,856 --> 01:48:55,416
Did you see what Rook asked him?

1848
01:48:55,556 --> 01:48:56,176
What did Rook ask?

1849
01:48:56,276 --> 01:48:57,536
I just saw this right now.

1850
01:48:57,636 --> 01:48:58,036
Where is it?

1851
01:48:58,036 --> 01:49:01,036
If ego death could invest in one single lightning company,

1852
01:49:01,176 --> 01:49:02,316
which one would you pick?

1853
01:49:02,856 --> 01:49:03,196
He's like,

1854
01:49:03,276 --> 01:49:04,156
and then Jeff goes,

1855
01:49:04,216 --> 01:49:05,336
I seriously can't answer that.

1856
01:49:05,456 --> 01:49:07,176
Too many good ones at this stage.

1857
01:49:07,716 --> 01:49:08,156
Wow.

1858
01:49:09,716 --> 01:49:10,516
Shoot or shoot,

1859
01:49:10,636 --> 01:49:10,776
man.

1860
01:49:11,516 --> 01:49:12,396
Previous investments.

1861
01:49:12,516 --> 01:49:16,096
Sometimes it was the company I thought had a little chance or was against the

1862
01:49:16,096 --> 01:49:19,276
wall that ended up pivoting and creating the most value.

1863
01:49:19,636 --> 01:49:19,976
Wow.

1864
01:49:20,316 --> 01:49:21,156
So he has a,

1865
01:49:21,236 --> 01:49:21,356
yeah,

1866
01:49:21,376 --> 01:49:21,556
he has,

1867
01:49:21,716 --> 01:49:22,416
he has a long,

1868
01:49:22,836 --> 01:49:25,296
like a long background in tech work,

1869
01:49:25,296 --> 01:49:25,896
like building,

1870
01:49:26,016 --> 01:49:26,576
being a founder,

1871
01:49:26,696 --> 01:49:27,396
building a company,

1872
01:49:27,396 --> 01:49:32,356
you know getting getting rich and then i think and doing a lot of investments so

1873
01:49:32,356 --> 01:49:35,976
nice yeah great person to have in your corner if you're raising money

1874
01:49:35,976 --> 01:49:43,016
um and i know they have a great team one of their team members i think relocated to austin recently

1875
01:49:43,016 --> 01:49:48,536
so doxxed yeah i'm not i didn't say which one they have a lot of team members okay

1876
01:49:48,536 --> 01:49:56,496
hello ladies and welcome back to another exciting episode stacker news live i'm car this is my bff

1877
01:49:56,496 --> 01:50:04,296
keon we just got back from getting fake tans if you can't tell from the video um the next this is

1878
01:50:04,296 --> 01:50:08,436
the final top story i think the final top story of the week is name one conspiracy theory you

1879
01:50:08,436 --> 01:50:15,556
believe in one you don't this is a history post december 18th from ketford 191 comments

1880
01:50:15,556 --> 01:50:23,856
16,000 191 dude this is the most i've ever seen in my entire life yes it is what's the higher

1881
01:50:23,856 --> 01:50:27,216
We've had like nearly 300 in like the saloon.

1882
01:50:27,676 --> 01:50:28,656
That doesn't count.

1883
01:50:28,756 --> 01:50:29,556
The saloon doesn't count.

1884
01:50:29,996 --> 01:50:31,016
That's just walk buyers.

1885
01:50:31,736 --> 01:50:32,396
No, dude.

1886
01:50:33,036 --> 01:50:35,356
What's the highest comment for a post?

1887
01:50:35,456 --> 01:50:38,776
You can go to top forever and check out the number of comments.

1888
01:50:38,776 --> 01:50:40,136
We'll check at the end of the show.

1889
01:50:40,796 --> 01:50:42,376
I'm guessing this is like top three.

1890
01:50:43,316 --> 01:50:44,296
It's probably up there.

1891
01:50:44,476 --> 01:50:45,856
I mean, I think people really,

1892
01:50:46,156 --> 01:50:49,516
I think one of the reasons why conspiracy theories are such a thing is-

1893
01:50:49,516 --> 01:50:50,336
It's because Bitcoiners love them.

1894
01:50:50,656 --> 01:50:51,736
It's not just Bitcoiners.

1895
01:50:51,736 --> 01:50:59,496
Everyone is attracted to finding out something that other, you know, that have exclusive information about something.

1896
01:50:59,676 --> 01:51:01,016
Okay, let's jump into this.

1897
01:51:01,176 --> 01:51:02,096
Kian, what is this about?

1898
01:51:02,776 --> 01:51:05,396
Well, I mean, it is what it says in the title.

1899
01:51:05,496 --> 01:51:09,376
It asks everyone what's a conspiracy theory they believe and when they don't.

1900
01:51:09,456 --> 01:51:11,536
A lot of people chimed in with the JFK thing.

1901
01:51:12,276 --> 01:51:18,876
I think it's pretty well established now that there is funny business going on with JFK's assassination.

1902
01:51:18,876 --> 01:51:22,496
I would tend to actually agree with that one.

1903
01:51:22,496 --> 01:51:24,636
The more interest, you know, and then some,

1904
01:51:24,636 --> 01:51:37,184
you know people deviate from that We just saw one where you know someone like like more carnivore diet and believes that uh the kind of thing another person says what one that they don believe

1905
01:51:39,024 --> 01:51:42,784
oh one of them one of them said that they didn't believe that all vaccines were dangerous

1906
01:51:43,584 --> 01:51:48,464
um and so there's there's quite i mean there's quite a little bit of meat there and then the

1907
01:51:48,464 --> 01:51:53,584
ones you don't believe are also pretty interesting i think siggy said that he

1908
01:51:53,584 --> 01:51:55,924
He believes nearly all of them.

1909
01:51:56,424 --> 01:51:58,924
And I think a lot of other people tend to agree.

1910
01:51:59,004 --> 01:51:59,384
How about you?

1911
01:52:00,144 --> 01:52:01,384
Well, let's read the top one.

1912
01:52:01,424 --> 01:52:03,644
Let's read the top one because this is, let's give it to the stackers.

1913
01:52:03,864 --> 01:52:06,364
So Primitive had the top one.

1914
01:52:06,424 --> 01:52:10,104
He said, one theory, I believe, the two main political parties in the United States of America,

1915
01:52:10,204 --> 01:52:14,864
private organizations beholden to its corporate structure, captured the government long ago

1916
01:52:14,864 --> 01:52:17,144
and has since also captured the election system.

1917
01:52:17,144 --> 01:52:23,264
They work in collusion as organizations to continue their duopoly upon the most powerful nation on the planet.

1918
01:52:23,584 --> 01:52:27,764
World War III started decades ago, maybe with the war on terror,

1919
01:52:27,904 --> 01:52:33,364
and the two parties are terrified they will lose their stranglehold on the world hegemony.

1920
01:52:33,404 --> 01:52:34,484
So this I would call the—

1921
01:52:34,484 --> 01:52:37,204
With what seems like continued failures in every country.

1922
01:52:38,044 --> 01:52:41,344
We regime change to save them from oppression.

1923
01:52:41,504 --> 01:52:44,464
One theory, I do not believe God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.

1924
01:52:44,804 --> 01:52:47,784
And then he goes on, and everybody else jumps in.

1925
01:52:49,904 --> 01:52:51,284
What do you think about that one, Keon?

1926
01:52:51,284 --> 01:53:02,524
Oh, yeah, the thing I was going to say is that one theory I believe is basically the military-industrial complex conspiracy theory.

1927
01:53:02,604 --> 01:53:03,184
What's that one?

1928
01:53:03,664 --> 01:53:13,604
That's the one where the government has gotten in bed with the military industry, and they are married,

1929
01:53:13,604 --> 01:53:17,284
and they're very hard to strip apart

1930
01:53:17,284 --> 01:53:21,644
because the government effectively by marrying the military industry

1931
01:53:21,644 --> 01:53:26,364
has given the military industry the ability to like...

1932
01:53:26,364 --> 01:53:28,084
Did anybody bring that one up or did you bring that up?

1933
01:53:28,084 --> 01:53:31,044
Have the powers to like kill people.

1934
01:53:31,844 --> 01:53:33,964
And so it's really hard to like get, you know,

1935
01:53:34,004 --> 01:53:36,004
take that power back once you've given it

1936
01:53:36,004 --> 01:53:39,504
because like any attempt to take it back would lead to your death.

1937
01:53:40,324 --> 01:53:41,404
That makes sense.

1938
01:53:43,604 --> 01:53:50,724
yeah i don't know interesting stuff interesting stuff do you have a conspiracy theory you believe

1939
01:53:50,724 --> 01:53:54,924
well i think we talked about it the last time i think one that i don't believe is the one that

1940
01:53:54,924 --> 01:53:59,964
you were trying to show me on thanksgiving remember that one you don't believe in ufos

1941
01:53:59,964 --> 01:54:04,064
no i don't believe in the one that you're like you don't believe in that specific that's the way

1942
01:54:04,064 --> 01:54:08,044
you were kind of showing it to us and i was just like i don't believe that i really don't

1943
01:54:08,044 --> 01:54:13,024
I also think, yeah, I definitely think the moon landing was real.

1944
01:54:13,404 --> 01:54:14,144
I do think that.

1945
01:54:14,984 --> 01:54:17,084
The JFK assassination, I'm not entirely sure.

1946
01:54:17,164 --> 01:54:18,284
I wasn't born during that time.

1947
01:54:18,344 --> 01:54:19,684
I don't know how it played out.

1948
01:54:19,944 --> 01:54:23,484
So, you know, but even the same thing with the moon landing, who knows, man.

1949
01:54:24,564 --> 01:54:25,744
You could study them.

1950
01:54:25,884 --> 01:54:27,284
There's like decent historical records.

1951
01:54:27,284 --> 01:54:29,144
Yeah, but like will you ever really know unless you live through it?

1952
01:54:29,184 --> 01:54:33,044
Like 9-11, I feel like I have a better understanding of what happened on 9-11.

1953
01:54:33,224 --> 01:54:33,764
What's your view of what happened?

1954
01:54:33,764 --> 01:54:35,564
Same thing with COVID because I lived through it.

1955
01:54:35,564 --> 01:54:36,284
I have a better.

1956
01:54:36,464 --> 01:54:37,164
What's your view of 9-11?

1957
01:54:37,284 --> 01:54:37,744
I don't know.

1958
01:54:37,744 --> 01:54:38,984
I honestly don't know, dude.

1959
01:54:39,104 --> 01:54:40,084
I really don't know.

1960
01:54:40,344 --> 01:54:42,084
Because at the time, I remember thinking it was all real.

1961
01:54:42,604 --> 01:54:45,404
And then like three or four, five years later, those movies came out.

1962
01:54:45,484 --> 01:54:48,404
And then like everybody was watching them in college and stuff, right?

1963
01:54:48,424 --> 01:54:48,944
Remember that?

1964
01:54:49,544 --> 01:54:52,344
But then again, how do we know that's not like Russian propaganda or something?

1965
01:54:52,584 --> 01:54:54,924
So it's just like, who knows, man?

1966
01:54:56,264 --> 01:54:58,484
Just focus on the future Keon.

1967
01:55:00,044 --> 01:55:01,384
I don't know.

1968
01:55:01,524 --> 01:55:02,444
That's just my belief.

1969
01:55:03,644 --> 01:55:04,304
Still good.

1970
01:55:04,364 --> 01:55:05,364
Still a good post, though.

1971
01:55:06,324 --> 01:55:06,924
Way to go, Ketford.

1972
01:55:07,744 --> 01:55:09,824
what's one

1973
01:55:09,824 --> 01:55:11,164
you do believe?

1974
01:55:11,644 --> 01:55:13,184
and what's one that you don't believe?

1975
01:55:14,244 --> 01:55:15,184
I don't believe

1976
01:55:15,184 --> 01:55:17,484
I certainly don't believe the flat earth one

1977
01:55:17,484 --> 01:55:19,924
I don't think I believe

1978
01:55:19,924 --> 01:55:21,664
that UFO one either

1979
01:55:21,664 --> 01:55:23,584
but I do think

1980
01:55:23,584 --> 01:55:25,244
they're interesting to look at

1981
01:55:25,244 --> 01:55:27,744
yeah I don't

1982
01:55:27,744 --> 01:55:29,024
I think

1983
01:55:29,024 --> 01:55:31,904
the moon landing was probably real

1984
01:55:31,904 --> 01:55:33,264
although I don't

1985
01:55:33,264 --> 01:55:35,104
I think there might be reason to believe

1986
01:55:35,104 --> 01:55:35,684
they have

1987
01:55:35,684 --> 01:55:37,944
What about the 9-11 or the COVID stuff?

1988
01:55:38,024 --> 01:55:38,724
Do you think that was?

1989
01:55:39,524 --> 01:55:42,904
The 9-11 stuff, I think, I actually don't know.

1990
01:55:42,984 --> 01:55:45,544
I know there's some weird stuff going on there.

1991
01:55:45,644 --> 01:55:48,704
I don't think the government planned to kill people,

1992
01:55:48,924 --> 01:55:49,604
but I think they might.

1993
01:55:49,604 --> 01:55:50,624
Yeah, I really don't.

1994
01:55:51,044 --> 01:55:53,684
It's really hard to believe, but I mean, I can't know.

1995
01:55:54,104 --> 01:55:56,184
And then as far as the COVID thing, I think similarly,

1996
01:55:56,484 --> 01:56:01,624
I don't think it was deliberately released or anything.

1997
01:56:01,624 --> 01:56:26,464
I think my wildest version that is hard to confirm and is still relatively not that wild is that we were doing experiments on viruses and gain-of-function research in various labs throughout the United States for kind of good reason, although maybe it shouldn't have been done.

1998
01:56:27,464 --> 01:56:28,944
And it escaped.

1999
01:56:29,424 --> 01:56:31,144
And that's my theory.

2000
01:56:31,624 --> 01:56:36,844
yeah i think the covet thing's really interesting because i feel i think that one just feels like

2001
01:56:36,844 --> 01:56:43,004
dominoes falling all at the same time like you you have one domino and it falls and then all

2002
01:56:43,004 --> 01:56:46,484
these other ones fall just fall into place because there's just hierarchy and everything

2003
01:56:46,484 --> 01:56:51,004
kind of funnels down and that one was really interesting but the only really interesting

2004
01:56:51,004 --> 01:56:57,704
thing about that was the whole like um they were talking about it in like december and stuff i

2005
01:56:57,704 --> 01:57:01,824
remember that specifically that's the only thing that kind of stands out well we're talking about

2006
01:57:01,824 --> 01:57:06,804
in december of 2020 and then even in davos they were talking about it and they were already kind

2007
01:57:06,804 --> 01:57:10,404
of priming for it that's the only thing i remember thinking was just like well that's weird well it

2008
01:57:10,404 --> 01:57:17,764
actually i mean covid the the initial events for covid happened uh in at the end of 2020 it happened

2009
01:57:17,764 --> 01:57:22,084
i believe it was like fall of 2020 is when it initially escaped the other thing was really

2010
01:57:22,084 --> 01:57:25,904
interesting i won't call anybody out but at that time there's a lot of golden parachutes

2011
01:57:25,904 --> 01:57:29,644
happening for CEOs of Fortune 500 companies at that time.

2012
01:57:29,744 --> 01:57:31,784
And I remember thinking like, whoa, what is going on?

2013
01:57:32,364 --> 01:57:34,724
So, yeah, there's that.

2014
01:57:36,964 --> 01:57:37,444
Anyways.

2015
01:57:37,804 --> 01:57:38,904
You heard it from car guys.

2016
01:57:39,264 --> 01:57:39,804
Hey, man.

2017
01:57:39,804 --> 01:57:45,244
I think the first SNL has been dead for a long time,

2018
01:57:45,344 --> 01:57:52,184
but this reproduction of SNL is way better.

2019
01:57:52,304 --> 01:57:53,064
I think it went great.

2020
01:57:53,644 --> 01:57:54,864
I'm having fun doing them.

2021
01:57:54,864 --> 01:57:58,164
I hope it's not like unbearable to watch, but I also don't care.

2022
01:57:58,324 --> 01:57:59,984
So we're just going to keep doing them.

2023
01:58:00,364 --> 01:58:01,724
Dude, look at this set, dude.

2024
01:58:01,804 --> 01:58:04,364
It's like, what the fuck happened here?

2025
01:58:04,584 --> 01:58:05,784
What happened here?

2026
01:58:05,944 --> 01:58:06,604
Garbage in here.

2027
01:58:06,804 --> 01:58:08,144
But anyways, Stacker News Live.

2028
01:58:08,244 --> 01:58:08,924
We got this.

2029
01:58:09,364 --> 01:58:11,644
Building Bitcoin in the Bitcoin capital of the world.

2030
01:58:12,004 --> 01:58:12,764
Let's fucking go.

2031
01:58:13,024 --> 01:58:14,264
Ladies and gentlemen, let's do this.

2032
01:58:24,864 --> 01:58:44,264
Sometimes I'm always sad

2033
01:58:49,064 --> 01:58:54,584
All I need is something I can't

2034
01:58:54,584 --> 01:59:01,084
So I just need sin

2035
01:59:01,084 --> 01:59:07,584
I just need sin

2036
01:59:07,584 --> 01:59:12,584
I just need sin

2037
01:59:12,584 --> 01:59:18,584
I just need sin

2038
01:59:18,584 --> 01:59:24,804
Another kid on his ride

2039
01:59:24,804 --> 01:59:28,584
He's showing you his drive

2040
01:59:28,584 --> 01:59:33,404
Snow

2041
01:59:33,404 --> 01:59:38,584
You'll leave him on me

2042
01:59:48,584 --> 02:00:18,564
Thank you.

2043
02:00:18,584 --> 02:00:29,384
I trust Jesus

2044
02:00:29,384 --> 02:00:34,824
I trust Jesus

2045
02:00:34,824 --> 02:00:40,084
I trust Jesus

2046
02:00:40,084 --> 02:00:47,104
I trust Jesus

2047
02:00:47,104 --> 02:00:51,624
Thank you.