This is the first ever Stacker News.
Hi, I'm Keon. I work at Stacker News.
You won't know what I see trying
I won't ask if you forgive me
I can ask if you accept me
I won't cry just like I am empty
I won't know what I can try
Yeah, so what we're going to do is we're going to recap the top five stories from the week
and then go over the top five comments and then see what users earned the most this week.
It'll be really fast and lighthearted.
We're just going to have fun. We have beer. I have nicotine gum. And we're going to get started.
IMF urges El Salvador to remove Bitcoin as legal tender. What do you think about this, Keon?
I don't know anything about the IMF. I know it probably sucks. It sounds like it's... I mean,
anything having to do with banking probably sucks. And anything that's kind of top down,
especially at a global level also sounds like it sucks um anyway it makes sense that i'm as far as
i know the imf like loans a third world country's money we were talking to jimmy song at the last
bit devs and he was talking he had just visited el salvador and met with like a mexican delegation
or something that was there and he was saying that what happens with these loans is these loans come
with strings attached like all money does and what they do is they uh they give them the money
and they say, hey, you need to have kids in school from like three to five years old or something.
They tell them their country needs to change the way it operates in order to be eligible for the money.
So these loans aren't necessarily great for the countries.
And then they often have hard times paying them back because they might be denominated, say, in U.S. dollars or something
and they don't have access to U.S. dollars in the money printer.
So it kind of really distorts these companies.
That's my understanding of it.
But I'm kind of a noob when it comes to geopolitical stuff.
But anyway, Buckele trolled the IMF back.
There's a link in the comments that Nout shared.
But Buckele sent them this silly GIF, this silly Simpsons GIF.
and Bukele doesn't does not care he does not does not give a fuck at all he's uh I think he
I think he gets it he he's he's trying to move on from the IMF he obviously doesn't like them
um I don't know what to think of Bukele but yeah do you have any thoughts um yeah I just
have mad respect for Jimmy uh I think what Jimmy's doing um is amazing um you know um
I feel like a lot of us, myself, I can only speak for myself.
I'm a young Bitcoiner.
I'm a young Bitcoiner and I can only speak for myself.
And I know that a lot of us, at least for myself, I look up to Jimmy and I look at him like a general in this kind of fight that we're doing.
and so if he's out there you know doing all these amazing things and he's reporting back
and like i said like keon said we saw him at bitdesk and he was telling us all these amazing
things and one of the most interesting things that he told me was you know that they had uh
his book thank god for bitcoin and uh out there in el salvador but what was interesting is that
they had it bootlegged. So they had actually transcribed his book, but in Spanish. And what
was, but these have like a slight different dialect, I would imagine. And then, but it was
like copies of it. And it was being passed around. There's a lot of Christians there too.
And I thought that was super touching. We had, he was telling me it was touching for him. And it
It was definitely touching for me to hear that.
So I think what Jimmy's doing is very promising.
And it's very amazing for me to see that Jimmy's out there doing those amazing things.
And when he comes back and shares a story like that, for me, it's just like super touching.
And I think that...
Are you going to cry?
No, I'm just sharing my thoughts about the story.
And I think what he's doing is promising.
And for him, when he comes back and tells us this stuff, like I told you earlier, I feel like us young Bitcoiners are on the front line doing the building, doing this kind of stuff.
And then we have like the generals, like the Jimmys, the Parkers, the Martys, the Odells, like actually in the back.
But like telling us what's going on and kind of giving us the direction that we need to know.
So I just have a lot of respect for those people because they laid the foundation before us.
So that's kind of my thoughts.
Absolutely.
And despite Carr's tone, no one died.
So anyway, yeah.
Sorry about the green screen, too, by the way.
What do you think?
It's really green, right?
It's quite green.
It matches to us.
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News.
Live.
Ah, ah, ah, ah, ah.
It's Friday Live.
Stacker News Live?
You like that?
You're a fan of radio, obviously.
What does that mean?
Oh, it is streaming to the Twitter.
We're streaming to the masses today.
Today's SNL on Friday.
Because this is how we do it.
Stacker News Live, episode two.
We've upgraded in this detail.
We're in a concrete basement in the jungle of the Safari.
Yeah, where Stacker News lives.
we're in stacker news world today judging by the background this is just an experiment car
is not so enthusiastic about the experiment but hopefully it works it works out my idea was that
we could just see more of the site as we were doing and it wouldn't be a little picture in
picture but it might be too much too noisy visually right is what you're saying let's roll
yeah it's an experiment so tell us if you don't like it please uh all right so now we didn't win
We went through all the top posts.
Now we're going to do the top comments for the week.
Top comments.
This is my favorite part of the show because this is where we get to see which stackers out there truly, truly, truly love to give.
Love to give to fellow stackers who comment.
What do you got?
Nicotine gum.
I just wanted a nicotine gum real quick.
Okay.
so these are the top comments of the week and car how long did it take you to develop your radio
voice car i feel my radio voice yeah you change voices when you open a podcast or when just right
now you uh i would say uh i've always had it when i started a band like in in my early 20s
you gotta like put on a persona this is this is all a persona this is not the real car
yeah that beard is not real i don't know if you guys know this is all persona this is not
I could rip it off his face.
If you meet me at ABC or at a pleb lab, this is not the real car.
Yeah, car is actually a white man.
He's actually 84 years old.
You have to put on a persona whenever you do anything public.
People don't realize that.
Hi, Mom.
I guess I need a better persona.
Yeah, you do.
I should try.
You should try.
What kind of persona should I have?
It's just basically your normal personality times 20,000.
I need to turn it up.
Yeah, turn it up.
Turn it up.
All right.
Go Super Saiyan.
The next one is this Dolly 2 image generator that's powered by lighting.
It's at describe.photo.
No reference of Bitcoin in the URL.
in prepping for the podcast, I attempted to generate an image.
I said, a 3D render of Lightning Network News website
taking over the world during the apocalypse.
And I got these answers, these images here.
Not great.
It looks like some kind of cheesy Russian news network opening.
So I don't know how to write Dolly prompts.
Apparently people are like writing books on how to write Dolly prompts now.
I'm not good at it.
It's good to see them making more content around Dolly and stuff.
This is the second one we've seen in what, two weeks?
Yeah, there was like the other one.
I don't think, I don't know if it was, maybe it was using Dolly,
but it was like in a Telegram group.
And now this one's a website.
You pay a thousand sats, 250 sats per image generated.
It is quite a few sats.
That's a lot of sats for a crappy piece of art.
but if you were in some stats on stack the news,
you can come and,
you know,
try this out and see,
Hey,
send a thousand stats to me.
I'll make you whatever you want.
I mean,
if you write good prompts,
you,
you know,
hypothetically,
you should be able to get good images from Dolly.
I see so many good images come out of Dolly.
Um,
but I think you need to write,
you need to be very good at writing prompts.
There was,
I actually saw a product on Twitter today that where you can,
you can pay,
it's a market for prompts.
Like you can pay people to generate,
to like write you a prompt.
Like you write a natural language.
I think how it works was like you write a natural language of what you
prompt of what you actually want,
and they will return to you a Dolly prompt that returns a good image.
That's kind of weird.
So there needs to be an app for that to get to that?
Yeah, it's like a weird chain.
Let's hope this actually works.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I'm not going to make it.
I'm not really.
I mean, it's still, I see some great images that are made by it.
So it just, it needs to do a little better maybe with natural language.
but yeah cool project cool like cool project cool example of like lightning at work there
was people in the comments talking about they did like the math on it and they're like
so this is one this crypto coin uh asked uh stacker news to the moon and this is what it
generated which is pretty good it's a pretty good image um terrible a couple people it didn't work
for a couple people, but I think they fixed any
bugs on it. The only person I've seen
actually work good for him was
Tristan.
Tristan knows how to write prompts. That's why.
He's like, yeah, it's exactly the kind of thing
Tristan knows.
Tristan is also really good at
Photoshop. He's also a robot too, so it makes
sense. A robot.
What makes Tristan a robot?
It's Turtle Knight. Oh, that is
kind of robot-like.
Just kidding, Tristan.
I love that kid. Hopefully he's not
watching this right now it is you're you're a great human being um yeah cool cool dolly 2
projects with lightning on top ladies and gentlemen welcome back to another exciting
episode of stacker news lies happy halloween key tinky winky hello jason is that uh is that
really key on underneath there no it's me tinky winky and uh i'm a huge fan of stacker news
and I thought I'd stop by.
Keon's out of town.
Trick or treat.
Oh, thanks.
Can you even see out of there?
That was delicious.
Thank you, Jason.
You're so nice in person.
Can you even see out of there?
Zach Kent said that Twitter and Reddit
seem pointless now.
And then a bunch of people kind of chimed in.
Yeah, yeah.
What do you think?
I don't know if they're pointless yet
I think Reddit's pointless
personally
I don't really use Reddit as much as I used to
I'll still use it
for some things
I still use Twitter
the fact of the matter is
there aren't as many people on Stacker News yet
I think over time
that'll get
Stacker News becomes more and more compelling
as an all time thing
I already spend most of my time on Stacker News
but there are people who I want to see thoughts from
that aren't on Stacker News yet.
And so I still find myself on Twitter for that kind of stuff.
It's also a different format, obviously.
But I think I agree with the base thing
that he's trying to say here,
which is that it feels silly
to be spending time on these platforms
when you could be spending time on Stacker News
and be earning something for it,
like something meaningful,
like greater appreciation than either words
or fictitious likes.
Yeah, I kind of feel like the only reason Twitter
and Reddit are even possible right now
is because of Google.
Like when you type in,
like you're looking for something,
there's just so much information
that's already stored on Google servers
as far as like search results.
And a lot of those come from Reddit and Twitter.
I think in time, hopefully,
I think Stacker News and some of these other platforms
will get a little bit more tightly integrated
into coming into search results
and that better information will reach to the top.
But I think right now that's like one of the biggest things
that's keeping those platforms alive.
I think Twitter more so than Reddit is still needed.
I'm kind of interested to see what Elon's going to do personally.
I'm not expecting much.
I'm expecting this amount of improvement.
But it'll be interesting to see what he does.
Are you going Nostra November?
I think I'm going to go Nostra November for car.
Oh, you mean you're forsaking all social?
Well, no, not all social.
Just like I'm jumping off of Twitter, going Nostra November.
Is that like something people are discussing?
Yeah, JB55 is doing it.
Oh, that's cool.
All the cool kids are doing it.
Are you going to do it?
Maybe.
Yeah, I'm going to do it.
That way I can just use Noster, use Domus, use Enigma.
Just use that from all my social stuff in November.
And I do use Twitter for work, so that's kind of...
Yeah, you're going to have to get off there.
You're going to get off? Oh, man.
Just start tweeting from the Snacker News one.
All right, I guess I'll have to create a...
Noster November, let's go.
Let's go, Stackers.
Noster.
Snacker News Live.
We're in some place across from the Bitcoin conference.
An undisclosed location.
Yeah, undisclosed.
Called Lincoln Eatery that's accepting Bitcoin.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're at Lincoln Eatery.
Michael from Oshie on boarded this whole place like a square block.
Orange pilled it.
This is going to be a quick stack of news because Kion's battery is running out.
How much you got?
I got like 16%.
We had to find a place to do this podcast very quickly.
And we're here and there's no outlet.
But we're going to get it done for the stackers.
For the stackers.
shout out to now i met now this weekend that was cool that's right we met i met so many people here
it's uh amazing a lot of stackers in person for the first time i don't know how many i i ran into
at least 10 people 10 10 people you met you ran into more than i did how is that possible i don't
know there's a lot of stackers they wanted the hat everybody recognized the hat i see i don't know
why they didn't come to me i don't think i'm as friendly looking as you i think that's what it is
Yeah. No, but no, honestly, all the Sackers were out representing here at the Bitcoin conference in Miami and ready to jump into it.
We are. Yeah, let's jump into it. Let's go.
The next story is what we're talking about is Tarot.
So Lightning Labs released a basically a new spec for providing assets that aren't Bitcoin over the Lightning Network or or sending assets that aren't Bitcoin over the Lightning Network.
Biggest news of the conference, in my opinion.
Yeah, I think so, too.
I mean, there was a lot of big announcements.
There was all the Jack Mallard stuff with NCR and all that kind of.
This was like the game-changing announcement, I think.
This one, I think, really, really got a lot of people interested in talking,
I think, more than all the other things.
Because the other things were kind of almost like expected things.
They were all things we were predicting.
Even the Samson Mao stuff, we all kind of expected.
We kind of knew that.
We knew Jack was going to come in and do an announcement.
Exactly.
We knew it was going to be big, but we knew it was going to be an announcement.
The tarot stuff is what everybody's talking about.
It was the most surprising.
At their Airbnbs.
You know what I mean?
This is the stuff that everybody's speculating on.
Yeah.
No, absolutely.
Can you explain it to the stackers really quickly?
And then, yeah, basically within within if you have a on your lightning node, you can open a channel that is.
Aware of assets that aren't Bitcoin.
Or no, you you you you you yeah, you open you open a channel that is aware of assets that aren't Bitcoin and you can send those assets across the network to another person who's aware of assets.
that aren't Bitcoin,
who wants to receive them.
But all the nodes in between
don't actually have to be aware
that you're sending assets
that aren't Bitcoin
across the network.
It just...
So...
Basically, it just allows you
to send things like stable coins
across the Lightning Network.
That's really like
the fundamental thing.
And what everybody's kind of
hinting at.
And other types of assets,
you know, shit coins, NFTs,
whatever you want.
Yeah.
There's some...
There's some talk about being able to do more generic programming things within Tarot.
Apparently, you can send these assets along with perhaps some contract to execute on the asset.
But I was reading some threads on Twitter today that suggests that you wouldn't be able to do arbitrarily powerful smart contract things.
Yeah, I think there's a lot of things that we were kind of playing it out maybe yesterday evening.
and kind of looking at where it all kind of goes to.
And at that point, we all decided, or at least some of us decided that,
hey, there might be kind of like you have like on-chain maximalists
and then you might have, I don't know,
I feel like a Civil War is coming with this coming.
Yeah.
Whenever this does happen, like we just kind of played it out,
stackers, and looked to where it was going to go.
And a lot of us kind of agreed like there might be like on-chain maximalists
and there might be like, you know, this new lightning thing.
It's certainly an inflection point.
Yes, for sure.
And that's where like the big – I haven't talked to enough people yet
like to really get the – so I'm still – I don't want to reserve my like opinion yet,
but like it's a game changer.
This is the biggest news of the week in my opinion.
Like besides the mining stuff that's coming out of there
because there's a good signal about mining.
Yeah, this seems like really big news.
I haven read the bips or anything so I not too certain I did see Roast Beef talk on Tarot and hear that so I have a bit of a grip on it
What are people saying in the comments? Anything?
Really interesting. I mean, a lot of people are like, I don't want to route shit coins.
This is kind of the civil war point.
Civil war, yeah.
There was an interesting tweet on Twitter that went around.
I think it was like there's this is going to divide people between network maximalists and asset maximalists.
And so the shit point, the people who are like, I don't want to send anything that isn't Bitcoin across the lightning network.
Those would be like asset maximalists.
And so there might be other people, though, who are more so network maximalists and more so believe in Bitcoin, the blockchain being legitimate.
And they're comfortable with the tokens on there.
And like we had a person like that in our group where it was like they were a network Bitcoin protocol network maximalist.
Yeah. And it's fascinating. Yeah. It'll divide people.
And I wonder if there will be when we get into the Civil War, if there will be those those routing nodes in between the tarot nodes,
if they actually prevent tarot from getting routed.
That's a thing. I bet you might not actually be able to detect it at all, though, given the way the way.
messages on the lightning network are constructed they're in this onion encrypted thing so you might
not be able to tell you probably you actually you wouldn't be able to tell that it's actually
happening so they couldn't they actually have no defense at all but maybe maybe you maybe maybe
they would start attacking uh tarot notes you didn't tell me this last night you were waiting
for the show no no i'm just very i'm just like you said there will be a civil war and i'm like
what would actually happen in a civil war i'm not sure there are many technological attacks because
the lightning network is is fairly private from a sender's perspective um wow i'm just kind of
thinking that through right now stackers let us know in the booths what you think or or on
sacker news under this thread i'm with my best friend kian what's up car hi hey great week in
bitcoin wasn't it dude it was a building week in bitcoin basically the big one of the biggest news
items of the week is that jack dorsey got on no stir uh and funded no stir with 14 bitcoin
um which is like a lot of money uh i mean a lot of bitcoin for for us us us in the satoshi
generation um satoshi generation i like that yeah where where uh full bitcoins oh i don't know but
we stack sets, but Jack has stacked Bitcoin as a billionaire. And he donated 14 Bitcoin to
Nostar. He just gave it, as far as I understand, he just sent it straight to
Fiat Joff. And Fiat Joff wrote up like how he plans to divvy it out and stuff. I assume you're
a little deeper on this because this is your top story. Yeah. Yeah. So basically, you know,
I think we've already kind of seen where it's come out.
I mean, obviously, I had William on this week on Thriller.
So we were talking about all of this.
So definitely check that out.
But besides that, like, we just seen the, I mean, you've seen it here at Plubb Lab.
There's just the guys like working on Noster.
People like working on Noster.
I like writing about Noster.
Like, it's become a thing.
That's just a whole grassroots vibe to it.
Very reminiscent to Bitcoin.
But the big things around it is that, yeah, man, there's something special about Nostra and how it can be used as micro apps.
And that was kind of what our discussion was this week around that.
And Nostra just, it's this open protocol building that's happened.
And maybe we're hearkening back to the early days of the web where it's just becoming this.
And at some point, you just kind of have to look at the writing on the wall and realize, like, this is becoming, I'm not going to use that word, the E word, but, or the, you know, the embeddable, you know, the I word.
Yeah, it's not that.
But there is something when you start seeing a group of people do all this stuff for free.
Like, there's something to that.
Yeah.
And so I think that's kind of what's taking place.
I think also the reason I wanted to talk to William this past week was because of the whole chat GPT3 thing.
And we were able to discuss that.
And I think this is where I think when you're doing a startup or you're doing a project, it's good to have these like these pushes every few months, every, you know, every quarter.
But it's good to throw something new, a new feature out to your users and it gets them reengaged.
reengaged and and i think nostril november was a lot of building but when he implemented that chat
gpt three uh thing inside of domus it it it like reengaged a lot of us who maybe had like you know
fell asleep for a few weeks on on nostril and i think that with all the other proof of work that
was out there already it's just kind of taken over and um it's good to see jack like dude like
jack's a real one man like who spends who spends their bitcoin on open source protocol like
it's crazy dude yeah yeah i mean it's it's a really cool effort and it's nice to see
no sir get funded i mean i i've been watching no sir since the beginning get super test net
introduced it to me and who's been a huge uh no stir bull for a long time um and i think i think
really where it excels is like developer ux is excellent it's just like dead simple protocol very
very very simple to comprehend uh how it works especially if you have familiarity with like
a public public key cryptography and like from there it's just it's kind of dead simple any
any web dev could get into it and then you can layer on really complicated things
and it's reminiscent of me to something like bitcoin where the base layer people people will
deride it as like simple and dumb and doesn't really do anything. Um, but you can build layers
on top of these things and that's where they really become the, the, the products that you,
that you want them to be. And, uh, it's cool. It's really cool to see someone like Jack. I mean,
I always, I always imagine, I always imagine there's like a silo around, uh, people like Jack
and they don't really get ever the truth, um, or like what's actually going on on the ground or
that trickles up kind of late it has to be like huge massive waves but somehow someone got to him
with regard to no sir and it's it was cool i mean i think he even put like no stir in his
in his bio yeah and i also think too it's just um it's it's it's it's it's an everybody kind
of community where yeah you have to get the developers um working on it and then you have
to get that has to build over time but then you also need like the media to get behind it and
write about it to to like explain why it's so so great to work on then you have to do the workshops
then there has to be like like everybody has to come together in the community and all move
forward together and and like and keep it about the protocol for it to kind of kind of advance and
that's literally what happened with Noster it's the same thing it's like everybody
like everybody contributed in some way or another to seeing it uh get funding and um
yeah you can you can go through all of this uh and it tells you exactly what these um
where it's going to get allocated there there's bounties there's community prizes there's even
documentation and then micro grants of course and then it was cool too because there's a lot of
people that really worked hard on this and a lot if you scroll all the way to the bottom key on
under thank yous like it was cool to see that uh fiat joff had allocated like 20 million sats to
the people that had done all the heavy lifting and don't get me wrong there's even more people
he could have added to that list but these were the these were the these were the main um pioneers
of this whole kind of open protocol movement yeah so fiat joff wrote this google doc kind of laying
out how he intends to spend the sats and so he has some really high some like high level things
that he wants to see that he's willing,
that he's going to allocate 200 million sats to
and 40 bounties of,
and 40 bounties of 5 million sats,
a bunch of stuff that he wants to see get done,
things that we all kind of anticipate Noster needs,
additional, like, and a bunch of additional things,
smaller specific tasks, that kind of stuff.
And then, as Carr was saying,
there was an allocation to existing contributors,
is just as like a thank you.
It has like a funny note at the bottom.
This is not a payment for your work of love
because that is priceless.
It is just so your efforts don't go without mention.
It is also terrible
because there were many other valuable contributions
that were not mentioned here
and life is sad as well.
Yeah.
Now, the fact that he even had this at the end
was very thoughtful, I thought.
Yeah, it closed it up nice
and I'm excited to see what comes of the grant.
So when Noster on Stacker News?
When you build it into it.
I get that all the time.
And the project is open source.
If someone wants to make a concrete proposal
for how Noster would integrate with Stacker News,
at this point, I'd be more than willing to entertain it
and have a back and forth on it.
We've had a few people suggest things in passing.
Like maybe you just publish everything
that gets posted on Stacker News onto Noster.
But it's like now I need the private keys
of people who want to post from Stacker News to Noster.
And how does all that work?
If someone could figure that out, that'd be great.
I wouldn't mind duplicating the things
that are on Stacker News there.
I eventually want to pursue Noster
as possibly the protocol that Stacker News
is decentralized on.
And so in that case, it will be natively integrated with it.
But maybe there's an in-between step for us.
Yeah, maybe we could throw out there.
I mean, I'd be willing to go half on like a million dollar bounty to get that process started if you would.
Yeah, I'm down.
That'd be cool.
I'm down.
I'll get posted on Stacker News later and then let's see what kind of.
Yeah, that'd be really cool.
Yeah, we can see what we can get done.
This is this was like I think this this preceded Jack's investment or.
I said million dollar.
I meant million.
Sad bounty.
I just realized what I was like.
Did you say million dollars?
I think I said million dollar.
I don't have everything.
I measure everything.
It says only have Bitcoin.
Yeah.
Jack's jet jet.
What like spearheaded this whole thing was Jack wrote this long post.
I think it started out as a tweet thread,
but he like turned it into like a longer form post on Twitter's like,
I don't know,
newsletter product or whatever.
But he basically describes like why he thinks centralized social media is
broken.
Having,
you know,
been in charge of what many people consider like the most valuable, uh, online, online social media
platform in terms of like free speech, town square. These are the kinds of things you hear people say
with regard to Twitter. And, uh, yeah. So he, you know, he's kind of, he's kind of saying here,
you know, uh, it's hard, it was hard to, more or less he's, you can kind of read between the lines.
He was saying there was, there was on some level, uh, corporate and government control at Twitter.
which is not conducive necessarily to free speech.
The original authors can get their content removed
without being like that happened voluntarily.
And then having done moderation at scale,
he says the best way to kind of mitigate
any conflicts of interest or bias or anything in moderating
is to instead give algorithmic choice
and allow people to choose from a variety of algorithms.
And I thought that was pretty cool.
But it's a pretty lengthy post,
but it's all super relevant and well-written.
And I think Blue Sky and App Protocol and NOSTER
are all attempts to kind of figure this out.
Well, I remember in, what was it, 2021, when he went to the Bitcoin conference and there was people yelling in the audience about like all the things that Twitter was doing.
And then he said, you know, I will fix this.
I remember him specifically saying, I will, we're getting to that.
And then Blue Sky came out and then it got announced.
But maybe they're seeing something behind the scenes that they could implement an officer at some sort.
And maybe he's, you know, that's why he's trying to facilitate the growth in both areas.
but if there's anybody that knows this problem better than most, it's him, right?
Like, who else out there in the world would understand that better than him?
Yeah, man.
It's really bullish for Noster, the fact that Jack, you know, funded it.
Yeah, definitely bullish for Noster.
are bullish for just open internet stuff to have someone with big bags like jack uh it also makes
me wonder like where's ev williams and where's these other guys behind the scenes that like
why aren't they getting any of the blame like as far as like where twitter started like it's not
all jack's fault like he wasn't like it's not about where twitter started it's about where it
ended up and jack was jack was ceo through for the last like decade at twitter so he's he takes
he takes most responsibility he even he even uh he like willingly takes responsibility for
uh where twitter ended up and he said i think he says in here that it was it was a an activist
investor that really started to mess things up at twitter um oh wow so it just kind of tells you
like watch who you're taking investment from yeah he said this is my fault alone or they completely
gave up pushing for them when an activist uh entered our stock in 2020 so that's kind of you
know that's that's a public company you can get people maybe who you don't like owning a large
uh votable uh section of your company yeah that jesse powell talked about that on mccormick's
podcast has the first comment he does uh yeah so he said uh he this was on the whatsapp he said
plus one for starting with jobs.
So we got the most upvotes on that one.
Yeah, I think...
You think it's a bad move?
No, I think the fiat sign is a bad move.
The dollar sign.
I'm not sure it's so bad.
I don't have any...
I mean, I don't really...
I think the dollar is trash,
but that's what I think the sign for sats will be.
I think the sign for sats will eventually be the dollar sign.
This is my prediction, my far-up prediction.
Really?
I hate all of the sat signs that have been proposed.
Okay, okay, okay, okay, okay.
You're going to get into this?
Okay, so what other prediction have you had that came true besides secondaries?
That I would be in Austin.
That was a prediction.
That I would never – that my day-to-day life I would never drive.
That was a prediction I had when I was 14.
That's not a prediction.
You just made that happen.
The prediction is like –
I'm going to make this dollar thing happen.
That's how I make predictions, son.
that's funny okay okay well anyway uh we'll figure out the dollar thing i didn't realize
you had such passionate feelings about it now i want to kill fiat so do i but we kill it by
we're gonna appropriate it we're gonna take it back it's like the n-word but with a dollar sign
dude what all right let's go to the next one all right uh okay uh yeah so kr
um gosh yeah so he said he talks about the jobs board he really likes the idea obviously
uh people really agreed with that and then uh an archio a marketplace a lot of people really
want a marketplace so again there's like some pitfalls to doing this uh it would probably have
to be super moderated because who knows what people are going to sell in a decentralized context
this is less scary of a thing to do because there are perhaps i can't even see what's actually
getting sold you're still in trouble and then i don't have any i don't like stacker news doesn't
matter you're still i'd be kind of soon in them doesn't matter yeah i don't know it's scary still
coming to your home yeah you're still getting arrested car is more hip to this kind of thinking
than i am i i didn't actually have so much so many fears around buying and selling but i think
they're i think it's justified to be scary given that ross ulbricht is in prison for life
yeah yeah until russ gets russ russ gets out ross gets out i mean like yeah ross did i say
russ my bad yeah until ross gets out ross which will happen one day once we get a bitcoin president
that would be the first thing they do they better fucking do that well that's who i'll get to change
the dollar sign to a sat sign make sense all right uh we can even have tasks with the dollar sign it
just looks so fiat it just you know what it does this you know that's what it does now i now i see
it now stacker news was a site that was beautiful to look at now it's tainted with dollar signs
So you think there's like a dollar sign
I might have to switch it
I just realized I just see it now
Now that I see it again I can tell you
I can't unsee it it's tainted now
Snackers
Let me know if you agree
Let me know if you agree or disagree
But like now I can't unsee the dollar sign
It's everywhere
It's subliminal though dude
It's subliminal
well part of it was i wanted people to think about money a little bit
it wasn't i don't want to think about fiat i want them to think about earning money i think
the dollar sign represents more than the dollar do it intentionally then no i don't think the
dollar represents the dollar in my opinion it represents value i i said i associate the dollar
sign with value you associate it with fiat because you have a fiat brain it's okay but uh i'm just
fucking with you but uh i don't care what do you you're actually offended i was kidding i don't get
offended at all but no i'm saying like it's it's it's tainting your site all right i i mean i i'm
i take i i take that i can i can change it to another symbol i think the other i would just
ask the stacker see what they say i don't i don't have any i'm just saying ask them see what they
say maybe maybe they agree with you and then i'm wrong but like you should this is a big change
dude. I don't think you realize how big
of a change that is. You're implementing
a new... I think it's even bigger
change than you bringing
on jobs. Because this is a
new icon that's going to sit there for
the rest of time. We're going to have to
stare at it.
This is like when you
try to do the horn.
It would look like a duck.
Yeah, but I changed that because people
revolted. I'm telling you, people are going to revolt
with this.
man i wish i would have talked to you sooner because now i have to i have to go and do like
a regex no not even a reg oh is a lot more work for you no it's not it's just it's literally like
three clicks copy find yeah but i find every but the problem is i don't know what to replace it
with i'm sorry guys we're getting sidetracked on this you have a whole decentralized like
community i didn't think it was so important i thought i made the right decision to begin with
This is where you shouldn't be making decisions on your own.
Okay.
That's rude.
Get off your throne.
Whatever.
When are you selling those hats, man?
I saw there was like five people that came up to you at BitDevs last night.
Literally one man.
And then me, I've been waiting for a Stacker News hat.
I haven't got one.
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The fifth top story is Blue Check Manifesto.
This is from Odell.
11 comments 5 sats an Oster post An Oster post Well you actually wanted to see one of your top stories I wanted to have this as one of my stories I thought it was a great uh you know dude this is one thing to just
you know, knowing Odell and just the way he looks at things.
He's very like, I don't know what you would call that,
but he can kind of peer into the future, dude.
Like, and kind of like pull things back and then like bring it forward.
And then you're like, crap, that dude was right.
And if you look at all the receipts he has, he's been more right than he has been wrong.
Yeah, I mean, he's not like a Bellagio who's throwing out predictions every day.
Yeah, he's not throwing out a million dollar.
Hotel's not throwing a million dollar prediction.
But he does do these type of things.
So if you click on the post, he basically talks about how, you know, where Twitter is headed
and kind of where Elon's mind is at
is that he's going to turn this into like a WeChat.
And I 100% agree.
Like I don't, you know, I've done my own research on Elon
back in the old days when Carr used to do
journalistic writings and stuff on Thriller.
And just based off of my research on the guy,
yeah, man, there's some darkness there.
And this would not be shocking
if this kind of comes into fruition.
So like he goes into it, he goes that he says that to those that do not appreciate freedom, the value prop is clear.
WeChat is incredibly powerful and successful in China.
WeChat has become an integrated part of life in China.
You use it to message your friends, buy your groceries, hail a ride, and even book a doctor's appointment.
It's basically impossible to exist in China without it.
The Chinese app started off as a simple smartphone messaging app in 2011, less than a year after WhatsApp was founded.
but it grew explosively as it expanded into kind of a super app that takes
place of Uber, Grubhub, Venmo, Craigslist,
and a whole bunch of other services.
And then he says here to those that do not,
or that do appreciate freedom,
the concern is clear.
WeChat has essentially become required to live in China and it has surveillance
and censorship integrated at its core.
So yeah,
man,
this is like some,
some serious stuff,
dude.
I think,
I think it's pretty obvious at this point.
Like if you're, and it was kind of telling too,
when he did the whole Doge thing where he showed like the Doge thing and it
was like Doge for like a week. I was like, Oh,
this guy doesn't give a crap dude. Like he's just, yeah. I think,
I think, I think Elon is, yeah, man. What do you think?
Well, I mean, so some context, I mean,
some context that I think is true,
he's probably like one day CEO in Twitter. So I don't, I'm not,
I'm not sure he's like really thinking about this very much. And I,
and I think he historically just says whatever comes to mind, but I thought,
I mean, I thought this, I thought this post was good. It did,
it did make me think a little more about WeChat in a way that I would normally
not think about WeChat, but it, but why, but it made me,
it made me wonder why is WeChat, WeChat in China,
and there's no other WeChat really in other parts of the world.
And I think it's mostly because China kind of has like a fascistic type of governance where they side with these mega corporations and then they basically are like body snatchers and embody them.
And now these companies are more or less like Chinese government products.
And so there's not really any way to compete with WeChat.
And so if people want something like a Grubhub, WeChat builds it in and there's not going to be a competitor to it because China's government will prevent it so that they can continue operating.
You don't think Twitter's kind of headed that way?
Meta, we saw the whole Apple Vision.
Did you see the Apple Vision goggles?
This is clearly obvious where these centralized platforms are even becoming more centralized than they already are.
And eventually it's going to merge.
It's going to be like Netflix, Apple, soft Google.
Like it's just going to be one conglomerate.
And I'm not even joking when I say that.
That's probably where it's headed.
And yeah, it's becoming painfully obvious.
And you got Dash 1971.
He says, people's missing Odell's point.
It's not about the money.
It's about the encroachment of KYC and the opening of the door to social credit score like applications.
The whole point of Bitcoin and Oster and other freedom tech is supposed to be fighting back against centralization of the internet.
so yeah it's really not about the blue checks it's really just about the the precedence that
it's setting and where we're headed and we're falling right into it like no one's
i don't know i think it's really important and i think um people need to start sounding the alarm
as well and this is why nostril this is why we nostril right like gosh yeah i just i'm so my my
only thing is i don't think there is room for i don't think twitter will ever become a wechat
that's my that's my that's my prediction is i don't think it'll i don't think i don't even think
people won't want to know i don't i even think if elon even if elon could pull it off which i don't
think he can be in a one day a week ceo i i think no man yeah i know i know you tesla like everything
else is pulled off spacex a lot of those were like how the hell did he pull that off yeah but
that's not those are those are like hard tech products it's a different it's a different kind
of thing social media thing the social is i mean just him getting twitter right has been a bit of
a struggle and i'm not sure i mean it's i don't i think many of us would think he's been making a
lot of mistakes there so i don't and now he's going to add in uh 10 other products to it all
you know all seamlessly that people want and somehow compete with something like doordash
which already i mean maybe you could acquire it but i i just don't i personally don't really see
it happening i think it's worth thinking about i think it's a really interesting thought experiment
and but i also don't think i also don't think elon is like he wants to be he wants to be wechat
in the sense that he wants surveillance and control and social credit scores i think he
wants wechat in terms of he thinks it's a great business and yeah i think yeah yeah
but i don't know it could but it could but it definitely leads to that if if he could build a
wechat there's no way the government isn't going to begin using a surveillance i mean look at i
mean i hate to bring somebody like jack into this but like look at jack right like he has title he
has cash app he has he's developing on australia he's doing all these other things but we know jack
as an individual he's a bitcorner right like he would never do that but um that's where that's my
fear that comes from is like elon like i don't know man he doesn't he's not a bitcoiner right
so that to me coupled the fact that he owns twitter you know let's say he owns another let's
he had owns like a rival cash app business and then you know then you never know he's a bit of
a wild card he's a bit of a wild card you never know man that's all i'm saying is like at least
with jack kind of know where he sits as far as like um ethic ethically at least i mean i hope we
hope so we hope we know how jack if we don't we're in trouble i think they're really cool
this first one is a basic guide to making the switch to graphene os this is 16 800 stats 34
comments from Siggy 47 tech post yeah so Siggy has been talking about like uh de-googling himself
for a while and this and we last week we did he's this is like he's every week i feel like he's in
the top uh the top five postman yeah like yeah quality work last week he hated apple and this
is kind of a continuation of that and now i mean he also appears to also be hating google mostly on
the on the spyware side so he's he switched to uh using graphene and he uh kind of uh helps us
understand what might be uh well what what you might go through as when you go when you switch
to graphene and why you might want to do it kind of sharing his own motivations um but overall it's
a pretty i mean like i had no idea what it would entail because i actually haven't looked into this
because I'm kind of a one-track mind type of person,
and I just use the iPhone, and that's okay.
But it's pretty cool to learn a little bit more about graphene
and some of the security they offer
and how you can still maybe interact with the normal ecosystem.
And then, yeah, I also wondered about the phone choice thing,
and it appears you are somewhat limited on the phone choice,
but the Pixel phones are pretty good.
You mentioned a really interesting thing in there.
I don't know if you saw it.
And I didn't know this.
Good thing I waited.
Because I'm kind of in the same situation as you.
Like, I'm already thinking, like, making the switch over.
Like, I'm moving towards that here, hopefully by the end of the summer.
But one of the things he did mention was about the unlock thing.
Did you see that?
Where is that located at?
He was basically saying that make sure you get the right unlock.
because you might just be having a carrier unlocked,
but not an actual Google unlocked, if that makes sense.
Do you know what I'm talking about?
So he brings that up in the thing.
Definitely read it if you're thinking about switching
because that was something I had no idea.
I thought that was the same thing.
Turns out it's not.
Nulama said, a couple of interesting apps,
Florist Board, customizable open source keyboard,
Habits Tracker, define and track your habits,
runner up, open source run tracker
with support for heart monitors and agus and open source two-step authenticator that's kind of cool
um yeah so really good post man love seeing this uh yeah he's doing he's one of the best doing
original content we have another we have another couple i think one or two more original content
posts uh that are in the top this week what it's going to take you to move over to uh something
like this like graphene i know jack had said something on nostr that he was thinking about
they're looking into this block is looking into well jack is my daddy and so i do everything jack
does oh i'm just saying like people are bitcoiners are thinking about the phone we're talking about
the phone we've been talking about phones for two years yeah no for sure i think i think it'd be
i think it'd be interesting to try it out i used to use i used to use google i went from
an apple phone at one point to a google phone and i was using pixel it was unlocked i didn't do any
like graphing stuff on it but i was happy with it and then i just broke i think it was in i think
it was in las vegas i was drunk and it like dropped on the ground and it just wouldn't even
it was like bricked and then i switched back to apple stuff but maybe maybe it's time to go back
and get a little more private i don't really do much on my phone it's like browser uh it's
interesting because like with me i think the only thing that locked me in was iMessage
and and now i find myself not using iMessage as much as i used to and that was a thing where i
went to google and then came back because of iMessage um because it was so bad the yeah a lot
of my friends who were who would complain about iMessage and wanted everyone on iMessage many of
them are using signal now yeah and that's kind of where i realized it's like hello ladies joe
welcome back to another exciting episode of stacker news my name is car i'm with kian that always like
scares me a little bit really does it well you're just like whoa who is this guy yeah it's like you
You just jump out.
I mean, I know who you are, but it's like you jump from a steady state of normal human being into a radio guy.
This is what you got to do.
The next story is New York City isn't dead.
My first visit to PubKey.
This is from Siggy47, August 6th.
A Bitcoin post, 37 comments, 9,969 sats.
Can I get a woo, Siggy?
It's quite a bit more sats.
It's 109,000 now.
109,000?
Yeah, if you refresh.
Crush you.
Yeah, there you go.
Wow.
Many of those stats are for me.
I really enjoyed this post because I felt like I visited PubKey
without actually having to travel to New York, which was amazing.
It was a really nice breakdown.
Apparently, Siggy visited.
He had never been to a Bitcoin meetup before,
but Siggy visited PubKey for the first time.
apparently Marty Bent was there and he did a presentation following the Galaxy Digital Mining
Report and kind of broke that down for people. But it has a full write-up on the bar and what
it's like there and the vibe. I mean, I thought it was so good. Yeah, I read it too. This is
basically becoming Siggy News Live. Yeah, I mean, that's fine. It's whatever. He's writing every
week. He's making the top five. Yeah, he's writing fantastic original content. This is another thing
I don't think people realize, but like you get on the top five of Stacker News live.
Not only do you force us to talk about it, you know, and then it gets disseminated to all of the socials that we're connected to and all that kind of stuff.
So, yeah, Ziggy's making a name for himself, man.
Yes.
I mean, he showed up on Rook's podcast.
Yeah, Rook interviewed him.
Pretty awesome.
What else did he cover?
Oh, yeah.
So he covers the whole vibe.
Like, what is the scene like there?
Apparently, you know, most people go in there and don't even realize it's a Bitcoin bar.
They're there because it's a really good bar, apparently.
And apparently they have really good food as well.
The Smash Burger.
That's what Peter told me.
Yeah, the Smash Burger is apparently great.
I think Siggy said he had a chicken sandwich that was fantastic.
They have a real legitimate culinary chef guy doing the menu.
It just looked like the whole thing is designed to provide the dive bar experience,
which for many people is actually kind of comfortable and is disinhibited.
But yet it has all of the amenities that you might expect in a higher end bar
as far as like food.
And look at the ambiance.
I love like a checkered floor.
Dude, who doesn't like a good dive bar, dude?
I know.
It looks amazing.
Those are the kind of bars that I grew up in.
Those are like, you know.
You grew up in a bar.
You know what I mean?
Like, you know, like in your 20s, you know, like playing shows.
Like, these are the kind of bars you would hang out at.
I see.
Or at least I would hang out at.
We got the stackers in the comments.
Lumar had the top comment.
He said, quality content.
Have 1,000 stats for someone less likely to make it to that destination.
Embarrassed to see the post hasn't earned more yet.
Of the paragraph ending in douchebags made me chuckle.
Siggy said, thanks very much for the generous zap.
I almost took that line out, but my wife insisted I leave it in.
Then Blockchain Book, he says, I was recently in New York City.
Thought about going to PubKey, but didn't have time.
It looks like an awesome place, but the crowd I'll pass on.
Definitely need more women.
The lack of Bitcoin payments are odd.
I don't buy this explanation.
Then he says, I think this IRS rule stuff is cop out for poor transaction volume in Bitcoin.
People do stuff all the time and don't think twice about IRS.
I think it's better to just say people don't want to spend Bitcoin that use this IRS boogeyman.
Maybe next time I am in New York City, I will go to pub key and buy drinks with my Zeus wallet.
and if Tor is down, I'll use my Mutiny wallet.
That's from Blockchain Book.
Yeah, so they said apparently,
according to the owners of PubKey,
the only 1% of the transaction volume there
is paid in Bitcoin.
They themselves use a Zeus point of sale system
at PubKey.
But very few people actually end up paying with Bitcoin,
which is kind of sad.
But I think we're just, you know,
we're at the early stages of,
I mean, most of the time you don't even expect it to be an option available to you to pay in Bitcoin when you go places.
I know personally if I ever went to New York, that'd be the place I'd be hanging out every day.
I would even think twice.
Like, why do I want to go?
Do you know what I mean?
Like, it's like it would be my it'd be like what Club Lab is to me here and the Commons is to me here.
It's like those are the two places that I feel the most comfortable in the entire state of Texas is at the Bitcoin Commons in Club Lab.
And I would imagine the same way if I went to New York, I'd feel just like I do when I go to Nashville with Bitcoin Park.
I just feel really comfortable there.
So as a Bitcoiner, yeah, spread this message.
Go and do more of these.
I would love to hear one on the park.
I've actually done a review on the Bitcoin park before.
On Thriller Bitcoin, yeah.
If you type in Bitcoin park on Thriller Bitcoin,
I actually did one when I went there the very first time a year ago.
So I think more of these is good.
It gets people out there and willing to support projects like this
because it's very important.
These projects are operation and cost, everything.
So you're supporting them by talking about it and throwing sats their way.
Hats off to PubKey for making a great place or destination for big winners.
We'll go back to another exciting SuperStacker News live.
I'm with my two BFFs in the entire world, the entire stacker world,
SuperTestNet and Keon from Stacker News.
I'm that man.
How is the last one squeaking by?
what would you do if you receive unexpected bitcoin from a known entity this is from tsw
september 11th bitcoin post 37 comments 5 000 boosts 6 000 16 000.7 cents yeah so uh in this
post he kind of describes the precipitating uh incident that caused him to write this post and
it's this uh the quote-unquote fat-fingered transaction uh is what it's being called and
And it appears that PayPal, I think through one of its subsidiaries, I think it's Paxos.
Oh, is it Paxos?
Okay.
Paxos made a transaction that paid something like $500,000 in fees to the miner that mined the transaction on accident.
Obviously not.
How does that happen on accident?
They're probably using software that is making these transactions,
and it had a bug in it is likely what happened.
Super, do you have any insight?
I do.
It's all guesswork, so mine is also guesswork.
But one thing that could happen is that when you have an address
that has a lot of money in it, if you spend some out of it,
you're supposed to send the change to yourself.
But I think what might have happened here,
this is based on some research James Lopp did,
or some guesswork that James Lopp did,
is that someone might have sent money from Paxos to Paxos,
and so it misinterpreted the change address and was like,
oh, this change address is already in here.
So then it just made it, it didn't duplicate that change address,
and so everything went to fees instead.
So Clive Billinus, who's this guy?
He said, assuming that you are in the USA,
I would be inclined to notify the nearest FBI office that this has happened
since they may be innocent and accidental reasons
why this money has dropped into your account,
but there may also be a criminal intent
to get you as an innocent person
to withdraw this money as part of some sort of criminal activity.
If you tell the FBI, then at least it is on record.
Like, yeah.
I think the question is confusing because, like,
So contact the sender.
Looks like the stackers have voted,
and they said contact the sender right away.
But didn't the same thing happen to you, Keon?
Similar scenario.
So the thing you linked to wasn't this exact scenario.
It was a fiat, I think, banking situation where there was a bug that gave people money that they didn't deserve.
But in this scenario, it's a Bitcoin one.
Mine was a similar one where I had given people money that they hadn't earned.
So very similar.
It seems to be a common problem.
You have software that is written to give people money.
uh if you have a bug in it um you might give them more than right like that's fine what's fine
uh i mean unless you know like the entity but if you don't know because this is from just a
random address right he's he's asking if it's from an unknown just random address you would
have to go do the research but let's say if you're just like a pleb but let's say you're
just like a pleb and you just see 500 000 stats showing up in your wallet like
i think i mean i it depends on what type of person you are and what like what where where
where your ethical lines are drawn.
But I think for a lot of people,
they prefer to only have things that they've,
or they prefer to only possess things that they've earned
and not things that they get by someone else's accident.
I mean, it seems kind of, I don't know.
What would you do?
For me, the line is give the money back.
I didn't earn it.
I don't want it.
I would feel weird spending it or benefiting from it.
And then super, what's your question?
Well, you make an effort.
You make an effort to give the money back.
It's kind of like if I, one time I found some guy's wallet
at a bar and I didn just pocket it I took it to the bar and said I found this wallet Can you hold it for whoever it might but doesn that require but like let say if you just a club that doesn know how to look up a etxo or just a transaction in general like what do you do then you make an effort you just
say you reach out to your friends i don't know what to do all this money popped into my address
i i want to give it back what can i do so you just go on twitter and australia and say hey i
found five hundred thousand dollars in my bitcoin wallet somebody take it for me i think i would
start by asking people maybe at a local bitcoin meetup yeah let's see what the stackers say the
top comment was uh blockchain boog someone sent me 25 000 sats to my stacker news wall and i still
don't know who or why i've been thinking about dumping it in rewards pool so all the stacker
news can benefit undisciplined undisciplined said did it all happen recently i think gray ruby
forgot to change his default zap setting back to a normal number after our football ante
blockchain book says i think it was about a week ago undisciplined says that's about the right
timeline i believe he's going to consider that a bank error in your favor
blockchain book says ah if you're gray ruby can confirm this i'll return the sats and gray ruby
said wasn't me this time i was dumb enough to do this and i said we are all satoshi 10 000 sat but
just laughed at me we'll deserve send them back i didn't expect it to return but i said merry
christmas after i realized what happened so it looks like the stackers are willing to do it i
don't know remember that one guy who was trying to tip me but he tipped some other guy instead
and that guy kept it on stacker news i still remember that by the way oh yeah i don't remember
how much that was. It was a lot.
If we had gotten that,
the car might actually have
a home.
Hang on. It's right here. Look.
Where was it at, Keon? It was
somewhere. Dang. I thought it was
in my... In your bio?
Yeah, I thought it was in my bio in here.
Oh, yeah. I forget who it was.
Damn, I forget that guy's name.
But he kept it. It's like 80,000
cents, wasn't it? Yeah.
I don't know, actually, how much it was.
precisely because it is breaking imf urges el salvador to remove bitcoin is legal tender
what do you think about this kian i don't know anything about the imf i know uh i know it
probably like probably sucks it sounds like it's i mean anything having to do with banking probably
sucks and anything that's like kind of uh top down especially at a global level also sounds
like it sucks um anyway it makes sense that i'm as far as i know the imf like loans a third world
country's money we were talking to jimmy song at the last bit devs and he was talking he had just
visited el salvador and met with like a mexican delegation or something that was there and he was
saying that what happens with these loans is these loans come with strings attached like all money
does and what they do is they uh they give them the money and they say hey you need a you know you
need to have kids in school from like three to five years old or something.
You know, they tell them their country needs to change the way it operates in order to
be eligible for the money.
So these loans aren't necessarily great for the countries.
And then they often have hard times paying them back because they might be denominated,
say, in U.S. dollars or something, and they don't have access to U.S. dollars in the money
printer.
So it kind of really distorts these companies.
that's my understanding of it, but I'm kind of a noob when it comes to geopolitical stuff.
But anyway, Buckele trolled the IMF back. There's a link in the comments that Naut shared.
But Buckele sent them this silly gif, this silly Simpsons gif. And Buckele does not care. He does
not does not give a fuck at all he's uh i think he i think he gets it he he's he's trying to move
on from the imf he obviously doesn't like them um i don't know what to think of bukele but
yeah do you have any thoughts um yeah i just have mad respect for jimmy uh i think what jimmy's doing
um is amazing um you know um i i feel i feel like a lot of us uh myself i can only speak for
myself. I'm a young Bitcoiner and I'm a young Bitcoiner and I can only speak for myself. And I
know that a lot of us, at least for myself, you know, I look up to Jimmy and I look at him like a
like a general in this kind of fight that we're doing. And so if he's out there, you know, doing
all these amazing things and he's reporting back and like i said like keon said we saw him at bit
desk and he was telling us all these amazing things and one of the most interesting things
that he told me was you know that they had uh his book thank god for bitcoin and uh out there in
el salvador but what was interesting is that they they had it bootlegged so they had actually
transcribed his book, but in Spanish. And what was, but these have like a slight different dialect,
I would imagine. And then, but it was like copies of it. And it was being passed around. There's a
lot of Christians there too. And I thought that was super touching. He was telling me it was
touching for him and it was definitely touching for me to hear that. So I think what Jimmy's doing
is very promising and it's it's very amazing for for me to see that jimmy's out there
doing those amazing things and when he comes back and shares a story like that for me it's just like
super touching and uh i think that uh are you gonna cry no i'm just i'm just sharing my thoughts
about the story and uh i think what he's doing is is promising and for him uh if when he comes
back and tells us this stuff uh like like i told you earlier i feel like us young bitcoiners are on
the front line doing doing the building doing this kind of stuff and then we have like the generals
like the jimmies the parkers the martys the odells like actually in the back and but like telling us
what's going on and kind of giving us the direction that we need to know so i just have a lot of
respect for those people because they laid the foundation before us so that's kind of my thoughts
absolutely um and despite car's tone no one died so uh uh anyway yeah uh sorry about the green
screen too by the way um what do you think i didn't it's really green right it's it's quite
green um what we we need a sponsor hey reach out dosakis we should hello ladies joe welcome back
to another exciting episode of Sacker News Live.
My name is Carm with Keon.
Keon, how's your Friday going?
Oh, man, it's a good Friday.
I think I got bit by a dog last night.
Where?
On the way home?
On my walk home, there was like a dog
that was out of its yard,
and I thought it would be like a cool...
I walked by so many dogs that were out of the yards,
and I thought it'd be a cool dog,
but it started charging me.
What kind of dog was it?
It was like a little tiny, you know, dog.
You made it seem like...
I was thinking it was like some Doberman Pinscher.
well I'm not in the hospital or something it was just like a little tiny
dog but it was like rabbit it like it like chased me and then I started
I kind of like tried to you know run away
and it's like it's dog friend from
the same yard also escaped to the yard and then they both started like
nipping at my ankles
yeah it's the first time it's I mean it's surprising it's the first time it's happened that
happened the first stop story is gold holder hoarders were persecuted in the 1930s what will
happen with bitcoin this is from signal 312 23 hours ago a bitcoin post 31 comments 18 400 sats
yeah this is really cool so uh i don't know like a lot a lot of us you know kind of anticipate
uh when bitcoin becomes successful that it might you know the government might dip back into
its playbook with gold and start seizing Bitcoin.
And so if you wanted to be prepared for that,
what you would do is you would go back
and study as much of that period of history as you can.
Is this what this person did?
That's what they did.
They went and they did a bunch of research
and pulled up as many, you know, a bunch of articles
roughly from the, around the, you know,
basically right after, I believe it was,
Roosevelt enacted Executive Order 6102
which pretty much made it illegal to own gold.
These are from the papers,
so this is kind of public sentiment around it
and filtered through, of course, media like today.
Basically, a lot of it demonizes
people who are possessing gold
and not giving it back to the government.
I believe around this period of time,
there was liquidity problems
and the government needed its gold back
to be able to meet its own fiscal needs.
And so these people were seen
as kind of like enemies of the United States
is kind of the framing.
I feel like this post never ends.
It's a very long post.
Did you read through all of it?
I read through all of it.
I mean, it's a pretty simple read.
I don't know if we wrote more simply
back then or something,
but it's a pretty straightforward read.
At both the front and the end,
there's commentary from the person
who aggregated all of the research.
But at the bottom he says,
my biggest takeaway is privacy and non-KYC Bitcoin
is more important than you think.
So part of what happened here
that allowed them to be quite successful
in repossessing all the gold
was every time you would go and get gold from the bank,
you would be entered in a registry.
Similar to what they're doing right now with exchanges, right?
Yeah.
So it's like they KYC'd you for owning gold.
And when they wanted your gold,
what they did was they put out basically a warrant
for everyone on this list to return their gold
and had the expectation.
there's there's then here there's documented like people who weren't going to give it back freely
that could really happen to take it to court do you think we're headed in that direction
like honestly i don't know i mean i don't know what the future holds this is something
governments are capable of doing these are things that you know in texas so newspapers printed i
don't i mean i think you know texas is quite uh you know it's political leanings tend to blow
around a bit. I think, you know, if it becomes like, this is a, you know, if the framing is,
this is a national, this is in the national security interest. This is for the United States.
This is for a war against Russia or China or whoever becomes like Bitcoiners are, are Russian
and Chinese. Like that's, that's what, you know, if it gets framed that way, the free state of,
of texas now becomes like uh not so free because because freedom is about protecting ourselves from
our enemies or whatever and then we're the enemy and it's like uh i think it can happen to it i
mean i don't i don't know if it will happen but this this is clearly in the human's wheelhouse of
like things things that they things that they will do that's why learning that's why learning
about history is so important if you want to predict the future yeah let's look at what the
stacker said the stacker said top comment from lux it's not about privacy it's about knowing how to
exercise your rights the order applies only to persons not to living men you either govern
yourself or someone else will yeah darth coin says i do not consent to be governed show me the
contract signed by both parties me and the government in which i agree to be governed
does it exist this is darth coin stance that's pretty pretty hard stance govern me harder governor
that's what that's the opposite of that i mentioned don't try to bend the government
that's impossible instead only try to realize the truth there is no government only banks and
corporations wow that's pretty based um yeah loving these images now you guys upgraded the
images right yeah exist uh spent a lot of time and work really making sure that that was that
worked great we're proxying them for your privacy so uh you don't you're not leaking your ip addresses
around the internet it looks like darth coin also linked this website i'm afraid to click on it but
here we go okay 6102 bitcoin.com what is going on what is this did you look at it oh wow oh is
this maybe like a war game what oh this is oh oh interesting yeah this is like this is thinking
through uh them trying to you know take down bitcoin wow interesting okay well check out that
it looks like it's a github project so probably someone probably anonymously
give that one that's a good one um yeah we got kept bird he says certainly possible but very hard
to enforce due to the nature of bitcoin if this happens the best course of action would be to leave
which you'd need to prepare to do ahead of time plenty of nations would be happy to accept expats
with stacks us could get could get this desperate but if they do it's gonna seize being a place i'd
live i'd get my family out gosh dude well i mean what do you think these people did when this
happened i mean it's gonna be a lot easier to flee with bitcoin than anything else but if you're on
one of these lists why wouldn't you know one of the first things they might do is uh block your
passport um from you know from international travel from leaving uh you just don't know i think
you know soothing yourself by saying this kind of stuff can't happen or won't happen this time
you're smarter uh the world is different i just you don't know it's better to be prepared for
for the worst yeah mallard said he said americans mostly handed their gold in voluntary as an act of
patriotism. There weren't any confiscations of individual gold. Prosecutions were rare
and imprisonment almost non-existent. It led to the big thing, which was the Gold Reserve Act of
1934, which dealt with removing the title of gold certificates, paper gold from private persons
institutions. The act of an order weren't repelled into 1964 and 1974, respectively,
Americans could legally hold gold for investment purposes. Gold hoarders weren't particularly
liked amongst the public at large because of who they were and how they talked, especially coming
of economic crisis with widespread poverty.
I hope Bitcoiners in the branding culture take note.
Yeah, I can see that.
I can see that scenario playing out
where they like blame us for everything.
I mean, we kind of have already seen that.
They just blame Bitcoiners on everything.
I suspect that's going to be a thing.
Yeah, I don't know what Mallardt is saying
that it wasn't that violent, the repossession of gold.
And that might be the case.
I don't actually know, but...
It tends to be the position of people who are pro-gold
and interested in gold that it wasn't so bad
the times when gold was repossessed.
So I don't know what to believe.
I don't know enough about the history here.
But this is a good post, good intro.
It gets us really started thinking about this stuff.
This is one you should definitely see Keon.
Oh, wow, you used it.
Karna has one bookmark.
Come back to this later.
Ten years.
No, I have like several bookmarks.
Just started using it more.
My name is Kiana.
Brother Kiana.
Welcome to Plob Lab.
Let's jump into the top five stories of the week on Stacker News.
The first top story is a perfect visualization of how absurd KYC AML is.
This is from BirdEyeT.
Let's jump into the top five stories of the week on Stacker News.
The first top story is a perfect visualization of how absurd KYC AML is.
This is from BirdEye21, October 22nd.
Bitcoin posts 36 comments, 7,487 sats.
What is this, Cam?
Yeah, this is pretty, I mean, so I had no idea how absurdly inefficient or ineffective AML and KYC regulations are.
But this graph, as BirdEye calls it, is a perfect visualization of it, where on the left-hand side, you have the costs that are associated with complying with AML and KYC.
And that's, like, paid for by the economy, by the market.
And then on the right, you have what the government actually confiscates.
So it just shows, like, the impact of—
This is, I've never done a round of applause for a post before, but like, this is exactly why we Bitcoin dude.
Look at this, man.
Yeah, it's crazy.
There's a, he actually links to a really great Substack article that breaks all of this down and explains where all the stats come from.
And like, you know, the history to some extent of them.
but it kind of goes to show that like if you're implementing like this is like a great case this
is a great example of uh implementing something and not measuring its impact and continuing to
double down on something you've implemented without measuring its impact and that's you know so that's
what these policies are they're like this they're they're extremely ineffective yet there's no every
i feel like every couple of months there's like a new there's a new regulation someone's trying to
pile on top of these you know so crazy dude yeah and this is is this i wonder if he added in the um
uh just the infrastructure as well too you probably did uh and then just if you think
about it just like on a local level all the extra jobs that probably shouldn't be there
extra buildings that aren't being used i mean and and taking into account that he probably didn't
even account that and i mean who knows uh the the main top uh comment was uh from oci zero zero he
said or she said as someone working in the financial industry i can confirm that kyc requirements
imposed by the eu are kind of nuts for every financial institution not only because to some
extent they harm privacy beyond any reasonable suspicion that someone can commit money laundering
but the fact just mentioned creates a very dangerous way of thinking basically european
policymakers are telling financial institutions operate as if all your clients are fraudsters
even if there's no reasonable proof of this fact i find this deeply disturbing and borderline
disgusting to be honest and then you got blockchain boot coming up right behind it why don't the
constituents in the eu ever change this law do they have a lobby problem like the u.s
and he goes into it a little bit more what do you think you know yeah i mean i think uh i think this
is a problem in all governments i think they i think we all they all they have like kind of a
herd mentality and so one of them begins doing something and seems really they're like very
emphatic about how effective it is and how much good it's doing and then a bunch of them do it too
was listening to a podcast with uh natalie smolensky recently and she described a phenomena
where a lot of legislators when they get into office because it's their job to legislate what
they begin doing is pushing laws even laws they don't really have much interest in because they
need to show something next like next time there there's a vote on like on who gets to run and it's
like well i i participated in all these things look at me i did i did things while i was here
and i think that's kind of interesting so i think that's a lot you know a large extent how
the government has run overall like the incentives are whack like it doesn't they don't they don't
line up yeah you also have two large pizzas jumping in he says you make a good point but
i'll raise you one more does kyc actually stopped the criminals at all perhaps the criminals are not
stupid and they still managed to flow their funds around regardless of kyc then he uh he shows this
graph right here and i can't really see it but um yeah it's uh it's pretty pretty clear that uh
it doesn't yeah there's a i mean there's a whole bunch of news going on right now about
uh elizabeth warren is trying to crack down on crypto
stuff because of uh because she somehow there was like a wall street journal article or bloomberg
article or something that associated that said that hamas was was had like 130 million dollars
in crypto funding which has largely been discredited but uh and then and then so when
they try to figure out like how actually hamas received its funding it's using it's like using
traditional banking things it's using credit cards it's using uh like normal banking institutions
they're they're getting around like even despite all these things existing they're
they're not in their way yeah so dude fantastic post yeah very yeah this is like a high high
signal episode of stacker news live my name's car i'm i'm kian bff kian hello how's it going
now is that now the car thinks stacker news isn't gonna fail or
dude we have always been best friends oh forever not forever but we've been best friends that's
true but yeah now i've added the forever because yeah you're not gonna fail yeah
now that i'm paying now he's getting paid a lot of sats on stacker news he's very oh yeah
yeah there's a lot of talk to talk about today um do you have anything do you have anything you
want to discuss before we jump into it i don't think so i don't have any complaints about my
neighbors no one stole any of my i my merch items i think i'm uh pretty so you've had a pretty good
week right uh it's not bad i've had trouble getting back into like coding after a bitcoin
conference like it was a little like there was just like so much going on there it's like i had
to like compress it all and uh figure out like kind of what to do but i finally got back to coding
today so i'm pretty i mean i was coding throughout the week but i hadn't done i hadn't it was hard
like getting over the hump of like here's a new feature i'm gonna do so i finally did that no that
makes sense how about you how was your week uh it's been really fast dude like as soon as we got
back i was already kind of working throughout the week anyway just writing articles and then um
we're working on bitcoin plus plus so i've been doing that most of this week and then i'm gonna
be up here pretty late at plub lab burning the midnight oil yeah we gotta get it done
say this is what we do for bitcoin okay let's jump into top post of the week kia top story of the
uh of the week is this was your top story really yeah i really liked i really i mean i just can't
i i was having like when this was announced that they were going to have a 60 minutes segment
because i know a bunch of old people who watch 60 minutes um it's this is like this is like boomer
hour i love 60 minutes on the weekend do you like it too i know i just love i love 60 minutes i've
always loved 60 minutes even when i was a kid i mean they they just kept it going for so long and
a lot of boomers are into it and love it um and i'm like wow they're gonna they're gonna have a
positive take on bitcoin on 60 minutes like this is awesome and when that when the announcement
came i was a little i was like a little bit concerned that maybe uh it wouldn't be a positive
take and they'd actually like crap all over uh bitcoin beach but it actually be it ended up being
a pretty positive story they had jack mallers uh talking about bitcoin beach um i watched this
whole video here which was also shared on stacker news but uh it talks a lot about like how it's
changed a lot of people's lives how they're using bitcoin at you know how how some of the people
were so were super impoverished and didn't feel like they had much of a path and they kind of
transitioned into like like using bitcoin the main fud that was brought up which is like maybe
one of the most valid FUDs of all the FUDs.
I kind of know what it's going to be.
What is it?
Volatility.
Oh, no, I wasn't thinking that.
Yeah, it was volatility.
That was the main thing.
It's that they didn't get...
None of the El Salvadorians that they talked to
brought up volatility as far as I remember.
It's Americans.
It was just like kind of CBS's own kind of commentary on it
was a bit about volatility.
But I imagine when you're actually deep
in a circular economy like this,
It doesn't matter.
Like my bananas are priced at, you know, 10,000 sats for a bushel.
And like it doesn't matter what the exchange rate of some currency is if I'm otherwise going somewhere else who prices all denominates all of their goods in Bitcoin.
So I think it matters less and less the more circular the economy is.
What's cool about this too, they also, I don't know if you've seen it, but they also talked about like the story of Bitcoin Beach, which they didn't know.
Did you know the story?
Yeah, I met Roman.
I met him at a Bitcoin conference.
We took a picture together.
I put us on Twitter.
He was like one of the guys that inspired me to do what I do,
to start Austin Bitcoin Club, to do Plub Lab,
to do what I do in the community here in Austin.
Like it was because of that guy.
So yeah, I was super inspired.
I met him.
I told him all these personal things and like how much he meant to me.
And hopefully he's going to come visit Austin one day.
But yeah, this is touching, dude.
This is super touching for me.
Yeah, I had no idea how even Bitcoin Beach got started.
And I guess you knew already, but apparently what happened was there was a big, there was like a big donor, like a big private donor, someone who wanted to be anonymous.
And they kind of touched, I don't know, the dude who's...
It has to start that way.
Like it requires somebody, you know, literally spending their Bitcoin to make something like this happen.
Like in the early days of Austin Bitcoin Club and Plub Lab, like I spent a lot of my Bitcoin, but you have to do these things.
Like you have to.
That's the only way something will come out of it.
If you don't spend your Bitcoin to make something like this happen, then it's probably not going to happen.
But once you start doing it, other people come in and they start joining you.
And then before you know it, you don't have to spend any more Bitcoin.
Yeah, people will give you Bitcoin to do it.
You know what it's like, Kian.
You spend your Bitcoin for Pleb Lab, too.
So it's like.
Yeah.
Yep.
You have to.
That's the only way to make.
It hurts.
It hurts, but it's the only way to make this thing really work for the betterment of your community.
well i mean that's that's what that's what like that's what bitcoin is about or that's what wealth
is about it's not i mean i don't there's no point in like hoarding it it's like the used you only
want but you want to spend it on things that you really want to see in the world and so exactly
that's that's what that's what that's what like getting wealthy is about for me uh like should
should i ever get wealthy i the whole point of it is so that i can manifest the things that i want
to see in the world absolutely and uh it's really not um you know more uh goldman sachs or uh
morgan stanley's uh that's really not i think a manifestation of the the world i want but um
yeah it was a beautiful beautiful story beautiful touching story it was great to meet roman
i love seeing this kind of stuff on 60 minutes 60 minutes is such a high quality who's roman i mean
to people who maybe don't know.
I don't want to mispronounce his nickname,
but it's, is it Chimbera?
Yeah, I think so.
Okay, and what is he?
He was a Bitcoin Beach organizer.
Okay.
And they're making the Bitcoin Beach wallet.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
Oh.
You were right there when I met him.
Oh, at the bar?
No, at the Bitcoin conference.
At the Genesis station, we saw Kyle speak.
oh right yes that dude yeah yeah okay yeah i didn't yeah i think you didn't put two together
yeah no i'm i'm yeah yeah i i mean that everything was such a blur you know yeah you were drunk half
the time i was i was just i was wasted high on all kinds of drugs that people would sober sally
just like me all right everybody cheers to the new pleb lab
Cheers.
Let's fuck this.
I think it's lame.
Why are they suing you?
I only read the headline.
This looks like a CBS.
Looks like they should be suing CBS.
Dude, they have like the whole government is staffed with lawyers.
They don't have anything better to do.
They see something that has their logo on it,
and they're just going to cry about it.
Oh, wow.
They sent it to Zach, dude.
To Zach Zach?
Zach Zach, yeah.
Wow.
wait is that yes yes that's his email address doxed uh no it's all oh i see oh it is wow they
use the same the same dude yeah he's very popular oh i had no idea so pleb lab has a as a law as a
lawyer as an advisor i've also used zach no zach's great dude he's uh it was funny did you see him in
slack today he was he was like don't say anything but he was like chiming in about all this stuff
anyway i didn't see it at all it's uh it's pretty it's pretty fascinating i would say
go check it out i think personally like i think what you see here is just the same thing that
happened to us early on is we got sued by south by southwest because we showed you didn't get sued
huh you didn't get sued you got we got cease and desist because we we tried doing sats by here in
austin and uh they've been doing south by southwest for like 20 years or whatever and we slightly
adjusted the set south by southwest to have a lightning symbol and then they sent us a cease
and then we had to pull that logo and then now that's why we call it satsby um so that's why we
have to run and call it satsby instead of you know yeah before but it happens this is normal
in media typically you don sell merch around it though so i don know i don think i mean their logo isn even uh it like it aerial texts you know extra bold aerial texts Yeah actually I think I have a let me see do I still have that in here
Is it like a, like what?
Let me see, oh yeah, what font, let me see if I can do that.
Yeah, it's Open Sans.
That's like an open source font.
I don't understand, they can't write.
Probably this right here, maybe?
No, the Fed now can't have that eyeball in it, that's like part of what the parody is.
Yeah, I always use this font all the time.
Let me see.
What's nice is that, I mean, so this implies they might be paying attention.
Because who, I don't know anyone who owns that shirt.
I don't know anyone.
I don't know.
I kind of want to buy it now.
Oh, I mean, this is probably great for their merch right now.
Buy it before they run out of it, guys.
And the Fed now, yeah.
Look at that.
Get it now, Snickers.
Do they sell them?
Yeah, 49, really.
That beanie might be interesting.
Yeah.
We'll see.
Can you go back to that beanie?
How did they get that beanie printed?
It's like full.
It's a very.
This looks like.
That looks like.
Yeah, it looks like original stitching, bro.
I don't know.
They do high quality stuff at Bitcoin Magazine, man.
They do high quality stuff.
Anyways, just wanted to bring that up.
I thought I was entering.
Did the stacker say anything?
Darth Quinn says, I thought this was one of the Bitcoin bugle news.
Yeah.
Yeah, Bitcoin bugle's been.
Crazy, dude.
So every pleb running a web store with shirts, you know,
what your next design should be from no account.
Yeah, he has a good, yeah.
Anyway, that's all the top stories.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, forever.
We're going on to your strong end.
That's not forever, but.
The next top story is the Pleb Devs backend courses here.
This is from Bitcoin Pleb Dev, number 27th,
Bitcoin post, 32 comments, 50K boost, 65K sets.
We have a special guest.
Oh, we have a special guest.
Oh, wow.
Is Mr. Pleb Dev here in the house right now?
Oh, he is.
The comeback kid has joined us.
He's gone.
Do you want to bring a chair over?
Yeah.
Yeah, just use Jimbo's.
So Austin has been working hard on this for over a year, dude.
I want to say since last November.
He's literally been.
No, last December.
I want to say he's literally been like planning this out.
And he.
I'm going to come over here in the middle.
He has put a lot of work into it.
uh him and logan have been um working on it but let's go austin austin talk about
am i among the stackers right now you are oh wow you're wearing the hat
he gots the swag it's a daily driver uh you've heard so the stackers why you don't watch the show
why i don't watch the show well i normally watch the show when i'm mentioned only or when one of
my friends is mentioned which is pretty often but no that's not true i've been watching it more
I thought you said the other day, you were like, this is the one I have to say.
No, I was just joking.
I don't care.
I don't get paid for this.
Well, Jana watches.
You do get paid for that.
Jana will actually go back and watch the backlog.
She'll listen to the backlog like weeks, months ago.
Oh, cool.
So she's a real one for that.
So tell us all about Pleb Devs.
Yeah.
Well, Pleb Devs is just kind of the very small niche community right now, but it's basically
trying to answer the question of like, what is the journey to both learning how to code,
but then also building Bitcoin and Lightning apps. And something that's not talked about
a lot, like normally the people that build Bitcoin and Lightning apps, they were already
app developers. And then they learned about Lightning, they learned about Bitcoin. But
if you're a total noob, the journey is it's really daunting. It's really big. So this was
kind of my journey into Bitcoin. And through my experience and the insights I've learned,
And I'm trying to kind of like expedite and simplify the path to doing that.
So that's what this back-end course, this is the second course in our series.
Shout out to Logan for the awesome video.
Is Ben shooing you right here?
Yep.
Wow.
Ben shooes me.
This was one of my first ideas actually for the video.
Comes full circle.
Comes full circle now.
He got shooed from Marty.
Now Ben's shooing somebody else.
This is how it starts.
Don't shoo anybody in a year, Austin.
I will never shoot anyone, I promise.
I'm never going to let the shoe turn on the other foot.
But yeah, so this course is pretty big compared to the first one.
You need to have a little bit of JavaScript experience,
but the goal here was to give you both a back-end intro course,
so basically what you would learn in boot camp
if you were learning back-end development,
but then at the same time to teach you how to work with Lightning
to build a Lightning app.
um yeah so the the video here you're like struggling trying to figure out something and
then this magical man walks by who looks like kion's finger says you're missing a semicolon
kion had no idea i was saying yesterday i was like why does kion keep coming in all these videos
we have other really smart people here that could be in these videos i'm just saying
well originally we we are gonna have super uh super was gonna be the one to help me fix the
bug but super wasn't here so we we asked kian last moment yeah he was our fill-in yeah but it
makes sense kian is the type of guy that just walk by and yeah you're like you're like literally sit
right in front of him uh yeah this is great man i love what you did uh you have it available on
emeralize dude all it seems like a lot of people i know there's like somebody called the wild hustle
that's like jumping into it yep you can pay for it in bitcoin um yeah it's pretty thorough man can
you just kind of tell us a little bit about the lessons and what they can expect yeah it's basically
so it's it's kind of split up into three sections section one is is uh writing a server what is a
server what is an api like we define literally all of our terms and we start by learning node.js
which is just JavaScript for the backend,
JavaScript that runs on your machine.
So there's the server section.
There's the Lightning section
where we set up our local Lightning development environment
and connect into it and start sending payments.
And then the final section is database
where we learn all about databases from scratch
and set up our own database.
And then in the final lesson, we deploy everything.
How do we actually ship it straight into prod?
We learned how to do that at the very end.
So, you know, maybe you have some of the intro stuff figured out.
So maybe you don't need those lessons.
You can, you know, only you can pick and choose the lessons if you want.
And also all of the code, all of the slides are actually free on GitHub.
I think I linked to them in the post as well.
So if you don't want to pay, you know.
You should pay.
He worked really hard on this.
That's okay.
I feel guilty about charging for it at all.
So you put like well over 100 hours into this, right?
You know, maybe 100.
But yeah, it took a little longer than I wanted.
Support them, stackers.
But yeah, this is the second course for now.
We'll have more workshops coming out.
A third course, and then, you know,
I want to eventually take all this material
and build it into a type of boot camp.
We're a little while from that,
but that's what the future is looking like for me.
Great job.
Let's see what the stackers are saying.
The stackers, well, it looks like Nemo deleted his.
and then I think I said Ben Carmen shooting people.
But yeah, it looks like David Delby said
exactly what we've needed.
Congrats on getting this content recorded into the wild.
We'll be sure to get involved.
Great, thank you.
Let's effing go.
Why is there a lot of deleted stuff?
We're getting censored.
No, great job, man.
Kion, do you have anything to add?
I mean I think
I think Austin and I discussed this
I don't know around the time I first met Austin
like the need for something like this
or that I can see demand
in the market for something like this
so I think it's really cool that
he's meeting the demand when no one
when no one else is and I think he's really well suited
to meeting the demand as well
given that he's had an accelerated learning path for programming
and has come a long way.
I think, you know, he knows more about, you know,
the steep cliff than many people would.
And, yeah, so I think that's awesome.
Yeah, I think from my side, I'm just so proud of him.
And, like, seeing when I met Austin, when he first came in,
you know, he's just very hungry,
wanted to get out there and start doing things.
and it's just good to see him, see his transformation
over the course of however long it's been.
So proud of you, man.
Very proud of you.
It's a pleasure.
Yeah, if you want to learn how to code,
literally just hit me up, check out the material,
or, I mean, just DM me.
We can start from zero.
DM you where on Noster?
How many people do I have?
In the course.
In the new course?
So far, I think it's about 30.
Nice.
Across both the platforms.
So, you know, want to pump up those numbers, but people it's, it's not an intro.
Well, it is an intro course, but you need to have a little bit of programming experience.
So I still want to find all those people that still need to start from zero and connect with them.
So if that you you know definitely hit me up on Twitter on Noster You can find me under Pleb Devs Yeah The Pleb Devs Discord I link to that in the post And then I Bitcoin Pleb Dev everywhere else
Nice.
Thank you, Austin.
Thanks, y'all.
Episode of Stacker News Live.
I forgot the intro.
I don't know why.
I'm with my BFF.
What intro did you forget?
The whole like, you know, well.
I mean, you did.
It's like a whole windup I do.
Yeah, you do.
Yeah, it is.
I just forget.
let's jump into the top five stories
yeah it's got some good ones
this week so Hodlnut won his
lawsuit
by all definitions so
thank you for
all the plebs who helped
in this fight I don't I mean
I think they helped fund his legal battle
but now as a result of him
winning this legal battle
Craig Wright is now responsible
for paying
for all the lawyers fees
Oh, dude, really?
Yeah, this is pretty cool.
How much is that?
I think it's like 500 grand.
Wow.
Yeah, I mean.
Lawyers are expensive, man.
Yeah, lawyers are really expensive.
Especially ones that can win you a suit like this.
And it's pretty, I mean, it's pretty damning.
Like he won pretty handedly.
This wasn't like, I forget who had a lawsuit recently.
Was it like Bitcoin Python or something?
Bitcoin Cobra.
had a lawsuit, a similar lawsuit, and they didn't win as comprehensively as Hodlnott did.
They only, they got a dollar, they had to pay a dollar. But in this case, the judge said that
they acquitted Magnus or Hodlnott of all of the claims. They said he's not liable for any damages
and uh craig wright has to pay for the costs of his lawsuit against hodl not and and awesome um
didn't you know didn't exactly say uh that craig wright is a fraud um which i want to hear out of
a lawyer's or a judge's mouth at some point but it but if you read through it it's like there is
reason to basically the judge says there is reason to suspect craig is not being honest um and
that's awesome. I mean, I think, I think, I think this is the beginning of the end.
What do you think, what do you think really is the drive behind somebody like that? I think we
talked about it last time. Let's say hypothetically, like he is, you know, Satoshi, like, do you think,
do you think he really believes he's Satoshi or had a hand in it? Or do you think he's just, uh,
like, uh, you know, one of those people that just kind of. A grifter. Yeah. That does things like
these. So there's two possibilities. There's one, he's like, absolutely. He's delusional and actually
thinks he's he's satoshi on some level he thinks he actually is satoshi but is simultaneously
willing to like doctor evidence and stuff so it's illegal so it's yeah so it's very it's very
unlikely that he he uh is delusional because he's he's like unless he has like split personalities
or something and like but but the more likely scenario is he told someone early on that he
was satoshi and was intoxicated by the uh the response that he got telling someone he was satoshi
and then it just the lie built and built and i think they're oh well so you're saying it's like
something that he kind of stepped into somebody said about him and then he just had to keep
yeah he's like he's like yeah why don't i tell people i'm satoshi oh wow why wouldn't this be
how much i didn't think about how much money could i make if people believed i was satoshi
you have you probably i mean that's probably how something like this starts i i think but also he i
think has his people have like done deeper studies of craig right and i think they've discovered that
he has a history of being like a pathological liar like he is like perpetually a fraud um in
his life even prior to claiming he was satoshi uh i think you're right i think i think it's probably
the latter like you said i think it's one of those things where he like because i've done that before
where you like you know you're growing up and you tell your friends like oh yeah i have this new
football that came in for Christmas or something.
And they're like, yeah, we'll bring it in.
We're going to go play with it. And I'm like, oh, crap, mom, I don't have a
football. Can you buy me a football? And it just uses
this lie builds and builds, and you're just like, oh,
snap. No, yeah.
Yeah, you can imagine, like, as an early
boy, you're usually jockeying for
status, and you're like, yeah,
when I went on this vacation, I hooked up with
this girl. Yeah.
Yeah, they're like, is she right there?
They're like, how did that happen? And you're like,
do you just make up lie after lie
after lie, and it's just...
dang yeah but some people don't grow out of um out of that yeah like they don't realize the error
in that immediately well congratulations to hoddenaut uh yeah this is good news man this
is a good way to start hello ladies and welcome back to another exciting episode of stacker news
live i am with my bff here on a friday beautiful friday afternoon here in plub lab it's friday the
13th did you know oh wow do you feel lucky it's a scary fact i didn't know that yeah i i didn't
know that i didn't realize that either until someone texted me like watch out today i don't
I'm like, what?
Like for black cats or something?
I was like, what are you talking about?
It's Friday the 13th.
I'm like, oh, shit.
What would you watch out for?
Cool.
We're going to jump into our AMAs this week.
We had the first one from Jeff Booth.
65 comments, over 20,000 cents earned.
Wow.
Yeah.
So Jeff Booth stopped by, which is pretty cool.
He apparently logged in with Lightning, if you look at his user ID there.
He's the author of The Price of Tomorrow, which is an amazing book.
I definitely recommend reading.
and he's a general partner at ego death capital yeah uh what did you learn from uh the price of
tomorrow like what's i think i think the biggest thing was the whole moore's law thing right like
just in the real world and how software and automation can like it actually helps
society in general right it's the other way i guess the more we more we move to that the more
the less we actually have to do as a society.
So we need a harder currency like Bitcoin.
I don't remember exactly the thing,
but that was kind of.
Yeah, that seems to be his main point
is that technology in general
creates this accelerating deflation.
But we're in a world
where we have accelerating inflation.
Yeah, that thing.
Yeah.
And so we don't really get to benefit much
from all the technology improvements and stuff
and the wealth that it should be creating
because it's like inflated away from us.
That's like part of it.
But I know he probably speaks more about deflation,
I think, than anyone I've ever encountered
online or otherwise.
But yeah, great AMA.
Lots of people ask him a bunch of great questions.
He comes from an entrepreneurial background.
Did you see what Rook asked him?
What did Rook ask?
I just saw this right now.
Where is it?
If ego death could invest in one single lightning company,
which one would you pick?
He's like,
and then Jeff goes,
I seriously can't answer that.
Too many good ones at this stage.
Wow.
Shoot or shoot,
man.
Previous investments.
Sometimes it was the company I thought had a little chance or was against the
wall that ended up pivoting and creating the most value.
Wow.
So he has a,
yeah,
he has,
he has a long,
like a long background in tech work,
like building,
being a founder,
building a company,
you know getting getting rich and then i think and doing a lot of investments so
nice yeah great person to have in your corner if you're raising money
um and i know they have a great team one of their team members i think relocated to austin recently
so doxxed yeah i'm not i didn't say which one they have a lot of team members okay
hello ladies and welcome back to another exciting episode stacker news live i'm car this is my bff
keon we just got back from getting fake tans if you can't tell from the video um the next this is
the final top story i think the final top story of the week is name one conspiracy theory you
believe in one you don't this is a history post december 18th from ketford 191 comments
16,000 191 dude this is the most i've ever seen in my entire life yes it is what's the higher
We've had like nearly 300 in like the saloon.
That doesn't count.
The saloon doesn't count.
That's just walk buyers.
No, dude.
What's the highest comment for a post?
You can go to top forever and check out the number of comments.
We'll check at the end of the show.
I'm guessing this is like top three.
It's probably up there.
I mean, I think people really,
I think one of the reasons why conspiracy theories are such a thing is-
It's because Bitcoiners love them.
It's not just Bitcoiners.
Everyone is attracted to finding out something that other, you know, that have exclusive information about something.
Okay, let's jump into this.
Kian, what is this about?
Well, I mean, it is what it says in the title.
It asks everyone what's a conspiracy theory they believe and when they don't.
A lot of people chimed in with the JFK thing.
I think it's pretty well established now that there is funny business going on with JFK's assassination.
I would tend to actually agree with that one.
The more interest, you know, and then some,
you know people deviate from that We just saw one where you know someone like like more carnivore diet and believes that uh the kind of thing another person says what one that they don believe
oh one of them one of them said that they didn't believe that all vaccines were dangerous
um and so there's there's quite i mean there's quite a little bit of meat there and then the
ones you don't believe are also pretty interesting i think siggy said that he
He believes nearly all of them.
And I think a lot of other people tend to agree.
How about you?
Well, let's read the top one.
Let's read the top one because this is, let's give it to the stackers.
So Primitive had the top one.
He said, one theory, I believe, the two main political parties in the United States of America,
private organizations beholden to its corporate structure, captured the government long ago
and has since also captured the election system.
They work in collusion as organizations to continue their duopoly upon the most powerful nation on the planet.
World War III started decades ago, maybe with the war on terror,
and the two parties are terrified they will lose their stranglehold on the world hegemony.
So this I would call the—
With what seems like continued failures in every country.
We regime change to save them from oppression.
One theory, I do not believe God gave Moses the Ten Commandments.
And then he goes on, and everybody else jumps in.
What do you think about that one, Keon?
Oh, yeah, the thing I was going to say is that one theory I believe is basically the military-industrial complex conspiracy theory.
What's that one?
That's the one where the government has gotten in bed with the military industry, and they are married,
and they're very hard to strip apart
because the government effectively by marrying the military industry
has given the military industry the ability to like...
Did anybody bring that one up or did you bring that up?
Have the powers to like kill people.
And so it's really hard to like get, you know,
take that power back once you've given it
because like any attempt to take it back would lead to your death.
That makes sense.
yeah i don't know interesting stuff interesting stuff do you have a conspiracy theory you believe
well i think we talked about it the last time i think one that i don't believe is the one that
you were trying to show me on thanksgiving remember that one you don't believe in ufos
no i don't believe in the one that you're like you don't believe in that specific that's the way
you were kind of showing it to us and i was just like i don't believe that i really don't
I also think, yeah, I definitely think the moon landing was real.
I do think that.
The JFK assassination, I'm not entirely sure.
I wasn't born during that time.
I don't know how it played out.
So, you know, but even the same thing with the moon landing, who knows, man.
You could study them.
There's like decent historical records.
Yeah, but like will you ever really know unless you live through it?
Like 9-11, I feel like I have a better understanding of what happened on 9-11.
What's your view of what happened?
Same thing with COVID because I lived through it.
I have a better.
What's your view of 9-11?
I don't know.
I honestly don't know, dude.
I really don't know.
Because at the time, I remember thinking it was all real.
And then like three or four, five years later, those movies came out.
And then like everybody was watching them in college and stuff, right?
Remember that?
But then again, how do we know that's not like Russian propaganda or something?
So it's just like, who knows, man?
Just focus on the future Keon.
I don't know.
That's just my belief.
Still good.
Still a good post, though.
Way to go, Ketford.
what's one
you do believe?
and what's one that you don't believe?
I don't believe
I certainly don't believe the flat earth one
I don't think I believe
that UFO one either
but I do think
they're interesting to look at
yeah I don't
I think
the moon landing was probably real
although I don't
I think there might be reason to believe
they have
What about the 9-11 or the COVID stuff?
Do you think that was?
The 9-11 stuff, I think, I actually don't know.
I know there's some weird stuff going on there.
I don't think the government planned to kill people,
but I think they might.
Yeah, I really don't.
It's really hard to believe, but I mean, I can't know.
And then as far as the COVID thing, I think similarly,
I don't think it was deliberately released or anything.
I think my wildest version that is hard to confirm and is still relatively not that wild is that we were doing experiments on viruses and gain-of-function research in various labs throughout the United States for kind of good reason, although maybe it shouldn't have been done.
And it escaped.
And that's my theory.
yeah i think the covet thing's really interesting because i feel i think that one just feels like
dominoes falling all at the same time like you you have one domino and it falls and then all
these other ones fall just fall into place because there's just hierarchy and everything
kind of funnels down and that one was really interesting but the only really interesting
thing about that was the whole like um they were talking about it in like december and stuff i
remember that specifically that's the only thing that kind of stands out well we're talking about
in december of 2020 and then even in davos they were talking about it and they were already kind
of priming for it that's the only thing i remember thinking was just like well that's weird well it
actually i mean covid the the initial events for covid happened uh in at the end of 2020 it happened
i believe it was like fall of 2020 is when it initially escaped the other thing was really
interesting i won't call anybody out but at that time there's a lot of golden parachutes
happening for CEOs of Fortune 500 companies at that time.
And I remember thinking like, whoa, what is going on?
So, yeah, there's that.
Anyways.
You heard it from car guys.
Hey, man.
I think the first SNL has been dead for a long time,
but this reproduction of SNL is way better.
I think it went great.
I'm having fun doing them.
I hope it's not like unbearable to watch, but I also don't care.
So we're just going to keep doing them.
Dude, look at this set, dude.
It's like, what the fuck happened here?
What happened here?
Garbage in here.
But anyways, Stacker News Live.
We got this.
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Let's fucking go.
Ladies and gentlemen, let's do this.
Sometimes I'm always sad
All I need is something I can't
So I just need sin
I just need sin
Another kid on his ride
He's showing you his drive
Snow
You'll leave him on me
Thank you.
I trust Jesus
Thank you.