Live from Fled Lab in Austin, Texas, this is Stacker News Live!
Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting episode of Stacker News Live
with the BFF.
Keon!
Yeah!
Keon!
I feel like I'm like a rodeo queen or something.
You're just like announcing.
Keon!
Did you ever play that game?
Was it Red Dead Redemption?
He's like,
Gideon up, Gideon up, Gideon up.
Definitely don't remember that.
He's like, Gideon up, Gideon up.
He's just like riding the horse.
He's like, Gideon up, Gideon up.
It's just kind of dumb
because it's just like,
do you really have to do that?
Like, can you not ride the horse
and say Gideon up when you're riding it?
Well, I think.
It kind of sounds like,
Gideon up, Gideon up.
Like that.
I think we got,
I think we got that part.
I don't, but I don't,
I had never played that game
and I don't recall overhearing,
like that, that.
I didn't hear that.
You might just be doing a poor impersonation though.
Probably.
It's possible, but maybe not.
Maybe it's spot on.
You know what you're impersonating well.
How was your week?
How was my week?
My week was pretty good.
I'm very, very sore.
Sore? Why are you sore?
I did five days of vinyasa in a row.
Oh, nice.
Which is like guacamole,
but without the guac.
Yeah, but it's like with hummus instead
because it's from yoga people.
Oh, nice.
Yeah, that's what it is.
So I ate vinyasa, lots of vinyasa.
It sounds good.
It's delicious.
Yeah, with pita bread.
It's really delicious, actually.
It makes me sore because it's tough.
You eat it with pita chips
or is it more like, you know, just straight?
Well, you don't want to do, you know,
you don't need to do chip.
You don't need to turn a pita into a chip.
That's like kind of a modern thing.
You can just do a soft bread with it.
Vinyasa with some normal pita bread.
So good.
Yeah.
That's right.
How about your week?
How was your week?
It was good.
It was pretty busy.
I started editing the Sacker News live DVD that we're releasing at TapConf 7.
Get your tickets now while you still can.
Dude, the first episodes, like Wumble's been releasing some old clips.
some old clips, throwback clips,
but those aren't necessarily the ones that are going to be in there.
But man, dude, they're...
Dude, the old...
Let's just say the first 100 episodes was really funny, man.
Was it?
Yeah, it was good.
Like I was telling Janet today, I was like, man...
We were funny.
It kind of reminds me of Sesame Street, though.
Sesame Street?
It reminds me of Sesame Street.
It also reminds me of like a show for autists.
It really is a show for artists.
Like at least the first,
the first,
like the first DVD
that we come out with,
like when people watch it,
they're going to be like,
man,
that was such a good watch.
You're going to be like,
man,
that was a good episode.
But yeah.
Who likes Sesame Street.
Yeah,
pretty much.
But it's good.
Blood Blood's going to make the cover.
And yeah,
we're going to release the DVD at Tapcom.
Do we know how much it's going to cost?
I don't know.
Yeah,
I don't know.
We need to figure out the cost,
but
I'm going to order all this other stuff today.
And then I should have, I have the first edit done.
I need to do a, I need to watch it all the way through
and then go back and make sure everything looks good
and then watch it one more time.
But I was cracking up when I was editing it.
I was like, that's when I knew it was good.
I was like, oh, this is so funny.
You told me you were afraid the first like 50 to 100 episodes
wouldn't be that good.
They're like, wouldn't be that much in there.
Did you change your mind after watching?
Well, I realized like a lot of the stuff, we just went off the rails.
Like there's so much stuff in the beginning that we, like you could see our night.
How do you say that?
I gave a take.
You could see our that.
You could see that definitely.
I think now we're just freaking jaded.
We're so jaded, bro.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, we need to get back there.
We need to get back there.
I don't think we can.
We're so jaded.
We're so experienced now and way better looking than we were back then for sure.
Oh, I'm definitely not.
Yeah, we're way better looking to let it go.
About 200%.
What was I going to say?
But it's just, yeah, it's good to see like old us back then.
There were some things that we definitely got right,
some things that we got wrong.
But for the most part, I think Wumble picked some really good stuff.
We dropped the green screen.
What about that?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
The green screen, having the green screen back then made the show.
you could totally see the show is way better with the green screen,
us inside of the thing.
Should we bring the green screen back?
I think we should.
I think maybe after we hit 200, we should bring back the green screen.
Why did we get rid of that?
Because freaking pleb dev stole our green screen.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
Well, let's get it back.
We should bring it back, though.
I like how dumb it is.
It's just dumb.
Yeah, it was cool.
It was cool having the green screen.
We should totally bring it back.
I don't know.
Anyways, if you've never seen this crazy show before,
it's called Stacker News Live.
We cover the top five stories here
on the front page of Bitcoin,
stacker.news every week.
Like I said, Wombo's been posting a lot of cool clips,
some old ones.
There's some throwback ones.
I think the most popular one last week
was the gold confiscation.
Apparently that one,
or actually that one was a throwback clip
when we talked about gold a long time ago.
Oh, I remember that.
I don't remember that one,
but current town people like hearing about gold.
Now I remember hearing.
Yeah.
They went through and found a bunch of old gold stuff around it.
Cool.
We're going to be talking about gold today again.
And then what was the other one?
I think that's,
I think that's pretty much it.
Cool.
Yeah.
Hit subscribe,
hit subscribe.
You have a podcast like this for gold where they cover gold.
I'm sure they do.
Top five gold.
Peter Schiff.
I think Peter Schiff,
he'd be typing Peter Schiff.
Oh,
he's like the gold guy,
but,
um,
Thank you for watching the show for Autists.
I appreciate it.
Hit subscribe if you're one of those people.
Help us get over 500.
We need to get over 500.
I don't think we're ever going to.
I think Autists don't subscribe to podcasts.
Oh, well, that makes sense.
Maybe they can't find the buttons because they can't tell the colors apart.
I think that's what happens with Autists.
Don't subscribe.
That's what you have to tell them.
It's something the opposite.
Oh, I see.
Don't subscribe.
We don't want to get popular.
I see.
Because if we get popular, then no one will watch it.
They're sensitive to reverse psychology.
Yeah.
So don't subscribe.
We don't want to hit 500.
Yeah, we don't.
We want to get to zero.
We actually want you to unsubscribe.
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If you're subscribed already, look and check.
Look and check.
We want you to unsubscribe.
Because you might be hurting our numbers.
Yeah.
We want to go the other way.
Because honestly, like I was looking at the old clips.
You can tell we didn't care what we said back then.
Like at all.
Now you can see us like care what we say.
So if you unsubscribe and unwatch us, then this will help us not care.
Don't share this podcast with your friends.
Yeah.
We need to get less popular.
Less popular.
We'll just start releasing DVDs.
Yeah.
That's the way you want to watch this podcast.
We'll just record 100 episodes and release DVDs.
Yeah.
It's the best way.
Cool.
We're going to jump into the top five stories of the week.
the number five top story is a PSA from Nicholas.
How do you pronounce that last name?
Doer?
Dreyer?
Doer?
It could be.
It could be something like that.
Doer?
I don't think it's a doer.
These people, they're from like all over the earth
and they all want to talk differently
and use different words and names.
I don't know what that's up to.
Yeah, it might be a doer.
I'm going to go Nicholas Doer
for those who run a BTC pay server on a VPS.
This is from DarthCoin, five comments, 1,002 cents.
September 9th, Bitcoin territory.
Read the whole thread, he says.
Kion, what's this?
Yeah, I guess BTC Pay Server for a number of years now
has been telling people how to set up BTC Pay Server
using, I think, Luna Node.
And for only $7 a month, you can host BTC Pay Server.
um you know btc pay server is a non-custodial kind of wrapping service for a bitcoin node that
gives you e-commerce like features allows you to like present invoices to people that they can pay
and you are you know in control of it fully self um especially if you like hosting btc pay server yourself but for most of the customers that BTC pay server has they were using Luna node
which is like a cloud storage platform that has really good rates.
So most of them are on a very cheap instance,
$7 per month,
which comes with a 20 gigabyte hard drive.
And so Nicholas is writing about this because the UTXO set,
the unspent transaction,
output set has grown so large that even while they have most of their customers use prune nodes,
it will be the 20 gigabyte hard drive on that $7 instance will run out of storage.
And they will basically have to start their BTC pay server from scratch mostly because
you can't, you like, he predicts you likely can't recover from running out of storage.
Or it will be very difficult.
I don't know if he's running simulations of it, but so he, so he's writing this in the
context of the op return debate, the knots versus core stuff, filters, non-filters, and
saying that, you know, cause a lot of, a lot of what's driving the size of the UTXO set
it are these inscriptions and ordinals and these non-monetary uses of Bitcoin.
And they're done in such a way that they create unspent transaction outputs that you cannot prune,
that you need to store forever, that we all need to store forever for running a Bitcoin node.
And so, yeah.
So he says the op return might, you know, relaxing the op return limits might cause these people storing storage in a way where the unfruitable transaction outputs, it might reduce that and allow more people to run BTC pay server on a cheaper node.
So otherwise they have to upgrade to something like a $14.
They have to double the cost of running their infrastructure.
So he writes about that.
And that's like a nice, it's a nice example for the community because a lot of the debate is otherwise kind of theoretical and ideological.
And so this is like a practical example from someone who is serving real people using Bitcoin on a regular basis and telling us how these decisions affect them.
and it's a pretty awesome post for that reason.
The quote with the top comment was from South Korea.
Lightning said Antoine's post is quite interesting too.
Responding to Mechanic asking why increasing op return would be useful.
Then he quotes it.
We got Carter said, this is what I've been saying.
We need a way to allow people to return data without stuffing it into random fields.
Op return at least helps, even if it's more expensive,
because it allows people to explicitly say this is data.
so you don't grow the UTXO.
Cool.
Yeah.
You got anything else on this?
Not really.
I think I said most of what I wanted to say.
The next top story,
it's time to build a new grid.
This is from Max Webster,
September 11th,
eight comments,
10K boost, baby.
12,100 sats.
Key on, what's this?
Yeah.
So this is a post from Max
that is about solar.
Max is a huge solar bowl.
He's been working or started a startup career working as one of the first employees of a solar company in Mexico.
And I think has stayed a solar bowl since then.
He cites a number of developments here about the way that solar is becoming cheaper.
The storage for solar is becoming cheaper.
how we're seeing countries like China really expand their solar generation.
And he also pairs that with a lot of the discussion around the need for additional electricity
for all of these AI data center stuff that people are doing.
Like no one really wanted to talk about this kind of stuff when it was for Bitcoin or altcoin mining.
But now that it has like, you know, it's kind of like sanctioned by Silicon Valley, there's a lot more discussion about data center energy needs and the fact that producing more energy is good.
It's funny how that changed, right?
It changed so fast.
It's so messed up.
I love it though.
So fast.
So it's nice as we have, we have basically at least on the energy side, we have Silicon Valley on our side now.
So there'll never be like that green skull thing.
They'll like.
Yeah, because they were full on the other side.
They were full on the other side.
And now all of a sudden AI.
And I mean, it's crazy how that changed.
I wonder if those proof of stake chains even would have emerged
if like the AI boom had coincided with like the cycle
when they started working on that stuff.
What do you mean?
Because like the proof of stake, like they started,
they were, they switched, a lot of these chains switched over
to proof of stake because of all the energy FUD.
Oh, yeah. Yeah, they did, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, I remember that.
I wonder if they probably wouldn't have done that.
It probably wouldn't even occur to them that's a big deal.
They probably would have respected the fact that it's quite expensive and energy intensive to maintain their chains.
Anyway, yeah, so he writes about solar, the emergence of solar, like how solar is like growing and like incredibly cost effective and is getting deployed.
and especially in China, huge, huge volumes.
And they share some cool graphs.
Like some of the data in here is pretty crazy.
Like I think for every doubling of solar deployed,
it reduces the cost of all future solar deployments
by like 40%, I think.
And so you can just see how,
So like it's a very, the feedback loop is very positive.
And then he also describes there's a similar trend for solar energy storage with lithium ion batteries,
where I think every doubling of solar energy storage that gets deployed, you get like a 20 to 30% reduction in like future deployment costs.
So you have these trends that are showing that it's going to get pretty cheap to produce solar energy.
and you have lots of demand for solar energy.
And so he writes a bit about that.
And then that kind of dovetails into ideas
about more decentralized grids
and how he might see kind of solar take over a grid
or become more dominant on a grid.
And he has a few ideas about how that might happen.
But primarily he sees more like off-grid data centers
coming online that are primarily powered by solar
and not connected to the grid at all.
And so don't really have many requirements in that regard.
And getting deployed in places like Texas
or other places in the South
where they don't have a lot of regulations
around off-grid power.
And then eventually those,
eventually they end up connecting into the grid
and then kind of competing in a way that they win
with other energy sources on the grid.
And yeah, he just kind of lays out
the way he thinks it comes together over time.
And I think it's pretty compelling.
Like I said in the comments that I've been kind of hesitant
to be a solar bull.
I've always liked the idea of solar,
but I've always been kind of hesitant
because I don't know what the end-to-end costs of solar are or something like wind because no one
really talks about them because it's all like, this is green energy, it's good. We don't need
to talk about anything, but the fact that it's good. And that kind of puts me off as a person
who is kind of skeptical of the things people say. And so I don't, I've been, but this makes a pretty
compelling case. He doesn't get into end-to-end costs, but he does get into why it's good and why
it's good not just for you know the uh the environment but also good for uh freedom uh
people can generate their own energy and and good for people who like to consume energy because it's
cheaper i'm still i'm still not certain what the end-to-end costs are especially of like
batteries producing lots and lots of batteries are those how you can how environmentally
good as that relative to pumping a well. I don't know, but.
Yeah, I think short term, I mean, just from the only experience I have with
all the mining stuff and solar stuff is just from working with Kardashev for a year
when they were in our accelerator and the, all the alpha that they would give me about
what was going on in Mexico and Latin America And you know I think just I think he hit it right on the nail when he talked about the off stuff That exactly what happening in Mexico and Latin America There just so much underutilized energy that just not being tapped into and you know potential deals just there
It's just, you know, somebody putting some capital to work, really.
It's all that's standing in the way of that.
The other thing I think long-term, I think, I think we got to go to the stars.
I mean, there's just, I think Elon's going to do it.
I think Bezos is going to do it.
And I think any other startup that's thinking about doing it off earth.
I think that's, I think you look at any sci-fi book, everybody talks about that.
I think Ted, me and Ted always talk about that.
That's where all the, that's where, that's where we're going to get most of the energy
that we need to, to do the things eventually.
And I think that's where I will, hopefully we see that in my, at least I want to see
that at least once in my lifetime.
But I do think, I do think there's a lot of off-grid stuff, but I do think if you're
thinking long-term, I think off Earth is where most of the energy is going to have to come from.
You're going to put like a solar.
I'm not the guy.
I don't know how to do that, but I wouldn't dare.
I'm not the space kind of guy.
I'm just wondering how we're going to import energy back.
I don't know.
Somebody needs to figure it out.
Here we go.
We've got Ted.
Ted, how do we do it, Ted?
Oh, hang on.
Hang on.
Let me make sure I get the right one.
Okay.
Go for it.
You probably don't, to be honest, just because you've got, what are the diffraction index
or whatever the right number is for the atmosphere.
It's very difficult to beam energy through the atmosphere.
It diffuses very quickly.
So I think refract.
So how do we get enough energy from like the moon
or from a traveling asteroid or the Ooma Luma or whatever?
It's got a lot of energy.
And if you're in space, you get more of it
because you're not blocked by the atmosphere.
However, the atmosphere does filter out a lot of the harmful.
bandwidths that you might not normally,
that might not help you generate more solar in space.
And also the place we'd be going is likely away from the sun.
So we're actually like getting less sunlight,
but in terms of like net energy and resources,
obviously it's infinite in space and finite on earth.
So that I agree with you,
Carla,
like that's the destination.
I would say my personal ethos is that like humans are kind of like a,
fire or a locust swarm that we just go out and consume and eat everything.
So I love solar and wind and all this other stuff.
I don't think that sustainability is like a valid or like,
I don't think it's possible, feasible.
Like I don't see any sort of logical reason why that would ever be achieved.
But I mean, maybe no one can know how, you know,
life kind of evolves in the future.
but I think in the end we're just going to go out
and eat every possible energy
source we can find
I think so too, yeah
that's a good thing, because we like life
and you know, it's going to maybe cause
the demise of the universe faster
but it's not really a demise
because we're experiencing it, right?
and so we give things value, they don't have
intrinsic value before we observe them
so we might as well go observe the shit out of everything
as quickly as possible
yeah, I think it'll be a long time before we consume
all the energy in the universe, but
Yeah.
It's just like anything, like with anything that has enough throughput, you add another.
It's like the freeway, you know, the whole thing they say about freeways, like if you add another lane, it's just going to lead to more traffic.
Yeah, exactly.
It's just that kind of thought.
What is the rule?
There's a rule to it.
I forget that dude's name.
Do you know the name of the rule?
I feel like you would be the kind of person.
Yeah, I've heard of it.
Yeah, there's like a Javon's paradox, I think is what it is.
Yeah.
where it's like the cheaper you make something,
the more demand increases.
It's like, or the more efficient something becomes,
the more people use it.
Rather than like you get the same usage
with a higher level efficiency.
So you have like reduced consumption
and like reduced waste.
You end up kind of just increasing
people's usage of it sort of proportionally.
So you end up with the same waste levels,
but it's like serving more people.
That's why I think off-earth makes the most sense.
It's like, I don't know how that's to be achieved,
but it's in every sci-fi.
Yeah, I don't know if it serves earthlings
if we're getting energy from outside the atmosphere.
Yeah, so there's a really good argument I heard
by this guy Isaac Arthur on YouTube.
And he's a really good,
he basically would be a sci-fi author,
but he just does everything in YouTube format.
And he made a really good pitch
about industrializing the moon,
which is what is the number one
economic benefit the moon has?
And it's like they don't really have anything
if you think about it.
But the one thing they do have
is a very advantageous energy position
to get things in low Earth orbit.
So we know how valuable low Earth orbit is.
Spy satellites, Starlink, GPS, imaging,
you know, kind of the basics.
It's a lot cheaper energetically
to drop something into that position
from just a Lagrange point in space
than it is to launch it from Earth.
Oh, that's a cool idea.
So that's true for anything kind of,
you know, as you further out the solar system,
once you kind of get to the asteroid belt
and pushing beyond that,
well, then like Jupiter's got its own gravity well.
So it's, you know, multiple years to get there.
So it's probably unlikely
that it's going to benefit Earth that much.
But I think it sort of intra-solar,
I'm sure there'll be stuff we discover,
scooping up some helium on
Jupiter, getting some hydrocarbons
on Titan, getting some water
on series, and that
benefit Earth too.
We just need to start
doing it.
Good post.
Thank you, Ted.
Space Ted.
Yeah, Ted will be
at Startup Day, I should mention.
He's the guy to talk to about space
stuff, and he's also building an AI
ask him questions about space
cool the next
top story is do we already
have too much is from KR
ask SN territory
34 comments
2,122 cents Keon what's this
yeah KR is wondering
are we
are we overeating are we over
consuming basically that was kind
of the question are we
have we generated
so much abundance that we are like
poisoning ourselves with our, our abundance by consuming more than we should be. Um, and yeah,
so Sankers chime in and, and, uh, answer, um, he lists, it says primarily in terms of information
is where, and food is where we seem to have, have abundance, like very clear abundance right now.
Uh, like for instance, I, I am overweight because I'm over consuming. I have too much abundance of
food. Um, and most of us have too much abundance of information. We're spending a lot of time on
our devices and probably consuming way more stories and TV shows and stuff like that than we
would, would have in the past. And that neither, neither being overweight or consuming too much,
uh, media is probably good for you. So maybe we should produce less. Are we producing too much?
That's what he's asking.
Yeah.
Scoresby had the top comments is at least at this stage of human development,
hardship is not hard to come by.
I haven't had hardship in my life,
but I,
the two or three serious hardships have resulted in growth and good things in
my life.
I don't think that overabundance is too much of an issue.
Really.
Most people will have challenges presented to them through the rough edges of
life.
Got one from Optimus said abundance of bad food is like abundance of toxic
waste in your garden.
Scaling by sacrificing quality is easy.
challenges to scale without making that sacrifice in the face of insatiable greed.
We don't have enough of the right stuff.
Dahi said, I think we need a complete inversion of reasoning,
similar to how I rub most entrepreneurs wrong way because I'm from a data as a liability cap
rather than a data as a new oil or whatever the economists sold you.
Any of these stick out to you, Keon?
Yeah, I think most of them are saying that it's not so much that we have,
that abundance is bad as much as like having things in abundance that we don't need or don't
value. And instead we want abundance and things that we do maybe need and value highly. And so
it's like, so you're producing abundance in the wrong areas and we kind of need to shift it over
or rebalance into other areas. That's kind of what a lot of the comments end up saying.
cool
you got anything else on this
no
alright
the next
top
story of the week
was gold
was used for persistent
data storage
too
this is from
SimpleStacker
September 8th
Bitcoin Territory
32 comments
11,700 cents
Keon
what's going on
with gold yeah so this is kind of and similarly in the context of the Knotts core debate where much of it revolves around arbitrary data storage happening on Bitcoin
But SimpleStacker, I guess, recalled that gold had been used at one point for data storage because it's easy to write in and will maintain its shape so long as it doesn't come in contact with a lot of heat.
or pressure.
Unlike, you know, unlike stone,
it can, it will like erode.
Like there are a lot of materials
that don't hold their shape actually
as well as gold,
even though gold is quite soft.
And so I guess in the past
when important things were written,
sometimes they were written in gold.
And gold was also used as money.
And so we were using
that thing that was good for money
turns out to also be good for data storage,
kind of like, maybe not good for data storage,
but suitable for data storage.
I know where this is going.
So it's kind of, so the, you know, so there might,
there's reason to believe that when you have money emerge,
it also becomes a, it becomes used for data storage.
Maybe not, maybe not, maybe that's not good,
but it seems to be somewhat of a pattern,
at least where the money is suitable for data storage.
And so we shouldn't, I guess I think the purpose of the post is like, maybe we shouldn't be surprised that we have this money that we all like using.
And then there are other people who want to use the money for data storage.
It's interesting too, because like even like the pharaohs and like all sorts of people at the top who had the vast majority of the gold used it for inscription type of.
they were literally inscribing
their own kind of
degenerate type of
I am a god type of
behavior
killing babies all sorts of demonic
stuff I don't know if they inscribed that
on gold but you know what I'm trying to say but like
they were doing that sort of like
kind of like demonic type of behavior
and putting it attributing it
attributing it to
you know on the on what you're
talking about inscribing it
and stuff.
And then,
yeah.
Interesting.
Yeah,
I don't know if like
the demon,
I don't know if it's demonic
to describe and gold.
I know they,
I know they probably engaged.
The Aztecs were doing that too.
Like they were taking gold.
I know they probably,
I know you,
yeah,
I know,
but.
I didn't mean to be graphic,
but you know what I'm trying to say.
They're kind of independent things.
I imagine.
I'm not saying this is the same thing
that's going on,
obviously,
but I think you know
what I'm trying to say.
Obviously,
I'm being a little bit more hyperbolic
for the podcast.
Yeah.
But,
But obviously, what I'm trying to say is that type of behavior also happened on gold in the beginning as well, too.
And then it led to a reckoning of a sort, you could say.
Yeah, I don't know if the reckoning was from them inscribing on gold, but I think it's...
I don't know.
I mean, because if you look at history, like there was a reckoning at a certain point because after a while, the poors and the people that were the slaves kind of got tired of them doing that.
And they came for their heads.
Yeah, but I don't think it has anything to do with the inscribing on the gold.
Well, I mean, that's just kind of the spinning on the face, right?
I see.
You see this as like a side effect.
Well, I mean, you saw the—
Did you see Apocalypto?
I mean, you kind of saw the—
I did see that a long time ago.
I mean, it's that kind of thing.
Like it's, it's just hilarious.
I never thought of it that way, but, uh, interesting posts though, how they correlated the two things.
Yeah.
Interesting.
These are called Apadana, Apadana.
It's an Apadana horde is a specific picture he shows here.
Fascinating.
It had this inscription on it.
I thought about that.
Three different languages.
Sometimes things just take care of themselves.
That's why I'm always just like, you know, uh, I think I,
I think I get it.
Interesting.
Yeah, ancient Persia.
I guess they used it to store a bunch of coins in it,
I think from across a few generations
and a few different mintings of coins were inside.
I think it was meant as sort of a time capsule,
which it ended up serving as.
And it's very legible relative to most of the rocks that I've seen,
the stones that I've seen that are inscribed.
This seems highly readable.
Yeah, I think eventually other people eventually stole their gold.
eventually and they they took it for themselves so um yeah this is great yeah it's great stuff
simple stacker yeah what did the uh what did the top comments say kevart said how refreshing is
the post related to the debate that isn't completely stupid um zero xb corner go to
be melted down and reuse persistent data not so much oh that's a good point i mean it persisted
from, I think it was like 500 BC to now.
And we had that clear picture of it there.
So it seemed to persist.
I get that it can be reused and melted.
I guess in a sense, Bitcoin,
even if it did have that attached,
you can still spend it.
So it's kind of the same thing.
Yeah.
Yeah, most of it is.
There'll be another post I think we discussed this week
where they are consolidating a lot of that dust
that a lot of those protocols generated.
Cool. Great post.
That's a thinker.
The number one top story of the week is Merch and Chris have a conversation.
What is going on here?
Question mark, question mark, question mark.
This is from 02855, 51 comments, 382 sats.
Key on.
Is there a debate?
Yeah, I guess Merch and Chris got into a really long Twitter thread, apparently.
I haven't read the whole thing.
Weed and Merch.
Oh, interesting.
What are they talking about?
They're talking about basically knots versus core.
Who's on the knots side?
Who's on the core side?
So Chris Guida is on the not side.
He's a huge pro nots proponent.
He spends a lot of time on X debating people about it.
And Merch is on the other side defending Coors.
He's one of the bigger defendants of Coors' position on relaxing the off return limits.
And they get into it, I think.
It seems pretty productive for anyone who could find it and read through it.
they seem to
be treating each other with respect
through most of it.
Chris says some things like
he thinks that the economic demand
for Bitcoin as data storage
is a thousand times greater
than any monetary demand.
And that will be maintained
into the future.
And so he thinks it'll price out
basically he thinks it'll price out
monetary uses.
And then the other side of that is, well, if there's a thousand X times more demand for arbitrary data storage on Bitcoin than there is monetary uses, then what good are filters going to do?
Aren't they going to try like, isn't a thousand times more enough economic incentive to create routes to miners, which they have done to get these things into blocks?
And so there's a lot of discussions here that kind of get into the details of the debate, like some of the consolidation we're seeing of some of these BRC20 tokens, which are like an offshoot of inscriptions that try to create some kind of token system that mints tokens using...
Using unspent transaction outputs, you have a bunch of UTXOs that are unspendable.
We can't tell that they're unspendable.
And, yeah, that's kind of, they just kind of get into the weeds a little bit for people who are following it.
It is hard to have this debate and, I think, discuss it and make any progress on it.
because it is so ideological and theoretical,
even though we have pretty good data on what the effects of both filters and inscriptions are on chain.
Yeah.
Cool.
Looks like the top comment was from Merch.
He came in.
He said the special thing in quotes about runes is that they do exactly what BRC20 was doing,
defining minty and transfer tokens, but it does so in op return outputs,
which do not get added to the ETXO set.
in a block space efficient manner.
So it's simply better in all dimensions
than a BRC20 tokens at what BRC20 tokens supposedly do
without resulting in an incentive
to create minuscule abandoned outputs.
And it was created by the eventer of Ordnose,
which probably makes it even more blessed
in some circles.
Shrug.
What do you think about that, Kion?
Yeah, I think that is a proper analysis.
Ruins was created by KC Rohat armor to...
I don't know, supersede BRC20 so that we didn't have this UTXO set bloat caused by people degening on Bitcoin.
And that, I think, intentionally uses Opratern because it's prunable.
and
yeah
that's a sign
that
like
uses of
op return
has
better effects
for the network
than
not
not using
op return
all else being equal
we had
simple stacker
come in says
this is a good conversation
my views
that demand
for transactions
will surpass
demand for arbitrary
data if adoption
of bitcoin
as a
medium exchange
increases
if no one uses it for a medium exchange and it stays a store value,
then there will be little demand for monetary transactions.
Most of the demand for block space will come from people's store data.
The way I see it, storing data isn't the problem.
The blocks are all the same size anyway.
The problem is bloating the UTCSO set and making a node more costly to run.
The point about how the government can also make sure an attack is an interesting one.
I don't know enough about the technical details behind Bitcoin,
But if there could be a way to prune the UTXO set, even if the outputs are not prunably unspendable, that could be a technical solution to this debate.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I think you raise those interesting points from the discussion.
I think there are proposals for how to make the UTXO set more manageable, even at large size, like Utrexo.
and I know also LibBitcoin with Vosco,
they don't even have an independent UTXO set.
They pretty much index the entire transaction history
of the entire chain and make it accessible
in a way that you can still validate blocks easily.
It's time to download Blue Wallet and boom, baby.
Let's go back.
Let's go back on chain, boys.
Let's make a stacker news with one confirmation.
Yeah, 20 minutes out.
20 minutes out.
You got to wait 20 minutes.
I mean, to be honest, dude, I mean, I'm, yeah, I downloaded Blue Wallet.
I'm ready there, man.
You're ready to go back.
I'm using Moon.
I'm using Blue Wallet.
You're going to tell the travel.
Yeah.
I'm sending it on chain now for my phone.
you're like Doc Holliday
I mean I think
I think there's something
to be said about that
I don't think SuperStacker
is wrong
by saying
we want it to be
if we want
the chain
we want on chain back
then we gotta start
using it again
and I like lightning
I'm gonna keep using lightning
but
I think I'm gonna start
sending more on chain
transactions
yeah Moon should be
booming right now
there's like nothing
on
blocks are empty
we have like
sub, one sat per
VB. Time to start using Moon. Time to start
using Blue Wallet. Let's go, boys.
Let's do it.
Sackers, if you're listening
to this, send at least one
on-chain every day.
Show them what you're right at.
It starts with you. I'm serious.
For every Lightning transaction
you send, send an on-chain
transaction. Let's tip
your bartenders, your baristas
$5 on-chain.
Just download Blue Wallet.
Do your baristas have on-chain wallets?
It's easy enough to download Blue Wallet and send it to them.
I don't think they would do it if I asked them, like, hey, do you want to, can you download this app?
I mean, because, like, I mean, what else are we going to do?
I mean, it's either that or, I mean.
I think.
You got to vote with your money.
So, other than encouraging people to do more on-chain transactions.
More on-chain transactions.
That they don't need to do, I think it would.
Go back, boys.
It would just be having more people use Bitcoin.
Yeah.
I got Blue Wallet.
It's kind of a related problem, actually.
Because, again, the barista is not going to download a wallet.
They don't give a crap about Bitcoin.
There's my moon.
Got a password on it.
There's my Blue Wallet.
I downloaded Blue Wallet.
Yeah, I downloaded Blue Wallet.
Look.
See if it loads.
Boom.
Blue Wallet.
People love Blue Wallet.
It's time to go back, boys.
I even called it Lightning.
So I technologically think I'm using Lightning.
but I'm not. Wait, you've tricked yourself.
I've tricked myself.
I call my on-chain wallet lightning.
You did like a Vulcan mind meld with yourself.
It's on-chain.
I called it lightning.
My on-chain wallet.
There you go.
Everybody's like, I don't agree
with that. We gotta
not use on-chain.
Anyways.
So Nick disagreed with Carr
and then Carr behaved on screen
like Nick agreed with him.
Just in case anyone missed it.
We got to start with ourselves.
One on chain a week.
Let's go.
Let's make it happen.
One on chain a week.
Let's start dialing Blue Wallet.
Let's make this happen.
Let's get the on chain back.
The only is what?
Oh, okay.
He's like, I'm only using Tether.
Tether's an L3 Maxie.
He's like, I'm only using tether now.
He's waiting for Karthashiv level three.
He's like, I'm only using tether.
So is Spark, you know, is that what Tristopheal is?
I don't know.
No comment.
What was I going to say?
Tristopheal might actually be level three.
All right, Staggers.
Because you have a unilateral exit.
Staggers, if you're watching this, send on chains.
Let's go.
Let's see.
Starts with you.
Yeah, I want to see them.
I want to see spikes.
Let's do it.
I mean, let's see what happens.
Yeah.
Let's use the full force of Stacker News.
Let's get your sister Katie to warm up that.
Let's do it.
Let's warm up that Blue Wallet.
It's just you see Blue Wallet just shoot up in the app store.
It's like, what is going on?
Did Taylor Swift, did all the Swifties download Blue Wallet?
Because she tweeted it out.
That'd be hilarious.
Wait, we're going to get Taylor Swift to tweet this?
Hey, man, if we get Kelsey, if we get Travis Kelsey to download Blue Wallet first,
sends it on to a transaction.
He might be.
Somebody send the tweet to Travis Kelsey, get him download the Blue Wallet.
I feel like.
And then we'll get all the Swifties to download the Blue Wallet.
We'll take America back that way.
I feel like being with Taylor Swift is a full-time job.
I feel like you don't have time to even study Bitcoin.
I think so.
Yeah, I feel like you're just kind of like overwhelmed.
I don't know.
I feel like she's a pretty independent woman, dude.
I feel like you wouldn't even have to check in with her.
I don't know.
Usually people are like independent.
Have you ever dated an independent woman before?
All the people that.
Have you dated an independent woman before?
um i think so have you though i think so where did you date an independent woman
uh i think my wife is a pretty independent woman okay so will you check in with her all the time
do i what do you check in with her all the time like not all the time no okay so you're saying
you don't like you're saying like she's like my wife is not taylor swift because taylor swift
has like taylor swift is like there's almost like a world figure she she is a world figure she's like
she's basically like Putin
you know
Putin that can sing and dance
and has a few platinum records
so like a big important person like that
like being a partner to someone like that
is probably exhausting
even if they're quote unquote
I feel like you're digging yourself into a hole right now
I don't think I am
come at me
a female Putin
alright we're gonna move on
and yeah
Let's get on.
Let's get on with the show.
Yeah.
So let's jump into AI Bitcoin this week.
So this week we had Optimism posted.
This week in AI, September 1st through the 7th.
There's a lot of talk about everything here.
I don't know if you saw.
He talked more about jobs.
But my favorite two posts here.
Let me show you how long this was.
Yeah.
Do you look at this?
I do look at it.
I didn't even read more than a handful of these.
It's really good.
I picked out two of them.
The first one I wanted to bring up was this one.
Is college university still worth it in the era of AI?
This is from StackHard.
I said, sure, maybe for things like medicine and some other professions.
But other than that, in this day and age,
with all the ways to learn and white-collar workers under threat from AI,
is the juice really worth the squeeze for most?
He says he doesn't think it's worth going to college.
Keon, I ask you, what do you think?
I mean, if you're going to college, I guess, to make money,
that would
I think change things. If you're going to college
to like
because you think it's a great way for you to
learn more and
be better as like a person
or at the things that you want to do in life
that maybe aren't directly tied
to making money but usually do result
in you making money then I would say you go to
you can go to college because you have
structured in there, they have built
in mentors you have built in peers you have kind of a path to go to achieve excellence it kind of really nice It a very convenient way to learn something That one of my biggest criticisms about people who are like
college is retarded. I can just, everything's online. It's like, have you tried to get a
four-year university education online? It's very hard. Some people can do it.
Yeah, some people aren't that self-motivated either.
Some people need more structure. I think we talked about a great post on education
a few weeks ago, maybe a month or two ago,
where you can broadly put most learners in three categories
where some of them don't need much structure,
some of them benefit from structure but don't need it,
and then other ones who need a lot of structure.
And so the people who don't need any structure at all,
those are like 5% to 10% of the population.
It's a very small percentage of people.
So I think depending on what you're studying,
depending on who you are, depending on the context and stuff,
I think it's still worth it.
I think if you're going after like a regular job,
like nursing or,
you know,
anything like that,
I think it's definitely still worth it.
Dentistry.
So you're going to be a programmer.
Would you go to college?
Um,
I don't know.
I'm not a programmer,
so I don't know.
What do you think?
You're a programmer.
I would still go to college.
Okay.
Yeah.
Um,
I think if you're,
I think if you're going to do like IT stuff or like anything in like
systems administration or like computer stuff,
I would,
I would say 100% yes, because maybe you can get all the same information elsewhere, but there's just nothing like a good experienced person who probably has experience in those networks and that industry that's going to be able to point you in the right direction.
And then also, too, you can always just try it for a couple of years.
If you don't like it, then you can leave, right?
Yeah, you can always come back, too.
So you can get the other way where you don't go to university, see what it's like without it.
and then try to come back.
I think the biggest problem
with the university stuff
is just more like
all the lame classes
they make you take.
I think that's kind of
what Elon says about college
where they make you do the stuff
that's really not going to benefit you
or your occupation, right?
Yeah.
I mean, it's still good
to take some of these stuff,
but it's just like
you should be a little bit
more lenient on it.
Yeah.
I think the main idea
is that it kind of rounds you out
as a person.
I think college was like
originally conceived when most people who were going to college were like very wealthy and kind
of didn't need to be concerned about money. They were just kind of trying to become better
aristocrats. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so some of the requirements seem to kind of echo that earlier
period. Cool. The other one I thought was really interesting was the art in artificial intelligence.
This was another one inside of the AI Bitcoin post that Optimism posted.
This one was a, is it the end of human creativity?
This was really interesting.
So I read through this one this morning and let me see if I can, oh, I translated.
Cool.
So it just talks about how like artificial intelligence is going to start seeping into art and you're going to start seeing it more at some of these different museums.
and it's going to be showcased a little bit more.
They did talk about one specific piece of art
that was sold.
I believe they said it was in 2018,
which is this one right here.
This was from Pierre Fautry.
It was called the Edmond de Bellamy.
This was an AI-generated portrait in 2018
that got sold almost immediately,
I think they said.
Yeah.
When a work created using artificial intelligence
was auctioned at Christie's for the first time,
which sold after more than six minutes of bidding for 380,000 euros.
Shortly after the same happened with memories of Transience 2019 by Mario Klingman,
which sold at Sorsby's for 46,450 euros.
And then it goes on to talk about how artificial intelligence has actually converged
in this new kind of creative field.
and then they kind of show different
like installations that were created
with artificial intelligence and how
artists are
interpreting it and using it in their collections
really
fascinating stuff definitely
recommend reading it's a really short read but it's a
good post from it looks like it's
the Madrid Museum of Art
Kian
what do you think about this kind of stuff
well it looks like the ones
that they talked about being sold or maybe bought
on like a historical basis.
Like I own the first fine art painting
that was done by I
because it does not look good.
But I could see someone wanting to collect that
and collect early pieces of art
that were like,
especially before the LLM stuff.
I don't know.
I find, you know,
I think you can complain about this kind of stuff
or say it's destroying art
or doesn't have soul or whatever.
I bet you could find similar arguments
about the switch from like oil paints
to acrylic based paints.
And I, you know, all technologies, I think,
upset people in a way.
And I think artists,
art is not defined, I think, by the medium.
So if they're using AI,
I think they can still produce art.
And someone will, if they're good,
if they have taste, someone will value it.
And yeah, that's what I think.
I would be interested to ask you a question because it popped in my head.
Obviously, there's going to be like if you have an artist, like an already famous artist, and then they do like a, you know, AI generated type of portrait or something or incorporated in some way that's a useful tool or whatever.
I think obviously it's going to sell.
So the question that popped in my head when I read this article was kind of more akin to like, is it possible to do like an LLM of a sort or create some sort of like version of like a chat GBT thing that only does art?
like making it just an artist
like
like say you got the
world's best art and you like put it
inside this kind of big
LLM of a sort and all it did was
produce art and then
and then the
person who's the artist then uses that
to create the art. Not saying that he's
using chat GPT4 or
open ad. Maybe he makes his own version of that
or whatever. But is that
possible to do? Yeah.
I think you could see people doing that.
I think there was an early AI company that focused primarily on images.
I forget their name.
It's been so long since because all the LLMs now are like multimodal
and can do images and video and stuff along with the LLM stuff.
But I think they're called stable diffusion.
Maybe that's the technique.
I forget exactly.
But they were focused specifically on generating images and art.
But I think you'll see, yeah, lots of specialization.
And I think the, yeah, the, the like terminal state, a lot of this stuff is us creating intelligences, um, to suit our own needs on perhaps on like a per need basis, not, not necessarily a general intelligence, but perhaps very specific ones.
that's like kind of the agent
agentize everything kind of view
but I could see that happening
just because
it's useful to constrain
to have constrained
devices
like I don't know if I want my
pet cat to have
an IQ of 220
you know like I kind of like that
it just kind of wants to lay
around and purr and get pet
and you know
So maybe I prefer it could use a toilet, but that's about it.
Yeah, that's kind of where my mind went to when I read this.
I could see a world where these places have their own sort of like,
I don't want to call it a chop shop because that kind of feels a little bit slanderish,
but their own sort of creative LLM of a sort that creates the best works
and then they release it in their own kind of like...
Where the art is the LLM part.
The exhibit.
Yeah, they release it with their own exhibit
and then it's like,
and then that's just another,
maybe it's with other artists as well,
but maybe there's like a certain lane
where it's just like it's doing its own thing.
So I could see that.
Kind of like what's similar,
like what kind of Spotify
and some of these other like music people
are doing already with like,
they're creating their own musical artists
and then kind of lumping in with the rest of the...
So you can kind of see that.
Like I can see that kind of happening.
So it would be interesting though to see how that's going to play out though.
But cause I can,
I can see people also getting tired of that or not wanting that too as well.
Yeah.
I could see that too.
But yeah,
it got me thinking about all sorts of things when I saw this.
Yeah.
I just haven't listened to much AI music.
I wonder maybe I haven I just didn know but it would I would negatively affect it I think if I knew it was like not a human being It like who am I connecting Who on the other side of this
Because I kind of feel like when I'm listening to music or art, I'm always thinking about like what's on the other side of this medium.
Yeah, that's why the in-person stuff is far more important these days, I think.
at least for me that I've come to realize like the in-person stuff is,
I think it's going to be far more expensive to do in-person stuff than it is
going to be to like do the virtual stuff.
I think it's just going to go even higher and higher and higher.
Like I think people are under, what do you say?
Like I think people are over on the,
like over on the other side versus this side.
Does that make sense?
Yeah.
Anyways, we'll see.
the other one I wanted to
I think that's all of them yeah we're going to jump into
Womble's Picks
this is Womble's Picks
segment
Keon this is do not see
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421 cents Womble's Picks
This is one that Wumble picks every week here on Stacker News Live.
Wumble does all behind-scenes stuff that you see.
It's all magic.
It is pretty magical how he does it.
Yeah, so this week, this post triggered it,
which gets to something we call the gap limit problem,
which is a problem that you will encounter
when you have loaded something that we call,
that you load an extended public key
into a watch-only wallet or some other system,
and you do not see all your transactions in it.
And that's because this XPub allows you
to take your seed phrase
and extend it into multiple addresses.
Because in Bitcoin,
you do not want to receive the same address
more than once for privacy reasons.
So each address is kind of new.
It can be a new person.
And that's kind of the way it appears on chain.
And that's good for your privacy.
So we have these things called derivation paths,
which are specified in your XPUB
and allow you using this specification in the XPUB
to generate an unlimited amount of receiving addresses
from just this little piece of information.
And the problem that occurs
is that a lot of these wallets,
they have what is called a gap limit,
where if for some of those addresses
you have generated in this derivation path,
it's like you can imagine
you're hiking along a path
and there are sandwiches along the path.
And let's say you don't eat 20 of those sandwiches.
the software assumes that you did not continue on the path because anyone,
anyone who went on this path would eat those sandwiches really.
And so it's, it kind of stops and says,
this person did not continue hiking on this path.
And so it's the same with these addresses,
these addresses got generated and they weren't consumed.
They weren't used.
So a lot of these wallets are like, okay, I don't need to look any further.
I don't need to look on chain for any more of these addresses getting consumed.
And so you end up oftentimes you'll like export, you'll have one,
you'll have like BTC pay server and it'll show all of these,
all of these transactions or you look on chain and it'll look like I'm,
I have more money than this watch only wallet, this blue wallet.
Say I load my expo into blue wallet.
My watch only wallet is not showing all of these transactions that I have.
It's showing that I have less money than I do. It's because it, it,
it had a gap.
You had a gap in your derivations of addresses that were unused and it stopped
looking for them. So you usually have to say, Oh, you know what?
I skipped eating 30 sandwiches on the path, not 20.
So you need to actually look 30 sandwiches along the path
and you'll see me continue eating sandwiches later
and then you'll know where I am.
It's kind of like that.
Wasn't there, I remember, wasn't there a wallet?
I forget whose wallet it was,
but they discovered this like when they were building their wallet
and then I think we talked about it and it was like.
I think Zapprite had their own,
that Zaprite wrote a blog post about solving,
how they solved the gap limit problem.
I think even Mutiny might have written a blog post
about the gap limit.
Yeah, and then how like most people don't realize this.
Interesting.
And I'm sure Unchain has written most,
a lot of posts about this, right?
Yeah, it comes up all the time.
I think this was like, I was,
when I clicked on this thing,
I was expecting to go to another post
where a guy had the exact same problem
a few days earlier than this post was written.
And Natalia wrote a post about the gap limit problem where they, I think their BTC pay server showed that they had the money, but then they had a watch only wallet, I think in blue wallet that did not show it. And it was just this, it was just this rectifying this gap limit problem. Usually it's a configuration setting in your wallet where you can tell it how big, how big a gap you might have.
yeah I think there are like optimizations you can do around it if you're a wallet developer
that's crazy like so like you would think and I don't mean crazy it's just crazy that because
most people don't know this but you would think like we would be working on some of this stuff
like as some of this stuff that that you think would be more important for people that are trying
to, you know, I don't know.
I mean, that's just.
Yeah, this would be a huge UX improvement
if someone could make this problem go away.
But I think fundamentally there's not,
you can't really do much
because again, you can,
the path is infinitely long.
Like the path, the possible,
you have to, if you're developing a wallet,
you have to choose at some point
to not look at every possible address
that could be generated
because there's infinity of them.
And so you say if I come across 20, maybe even 300 addresses that were derived and all of them are empty, they were never used, I don't need to look at infinity addresses because I know it's highly unlikely they have 300 unused addresses.
Yeah.
So I'm not sure there's a great solution.
So is it just set up by the wall by default or just depending on what wall that you're using?
The gap limit itself, yeah.
Each wallet has their own limit.
I think the default in most wallets is around 20.
Why so low?
Just because they don't expect you to receive that many...
Yeah, to get that many invoices that are...
Or to generate that many invoices that are unpaid, I think.
And I think it's not...
And these are typically...
It's usually a result, I think, of a bug in the software
that a gap even happens, a gap even occurs.
because the addresses can just be,
if you generate an address,
it should be, and it doesn't get paid,
it should be used to pay for the next invoice.
So if you're like BTC pay server
and you go to buy a hat from me on my BTC pay server
and you just don't pay the invoice,
anyone comes back to buy a hat or a shirt or whatever,
I can use the same exact Bitcoin address again.
And so on some level, it's like the problem occurs
because of like a bug in software,
they like, they create the gap
when they probably don't need to.
In some cases, maybe they do need to.
I don't really know.
I haven't developed one of these wallets,
but so, yeah, I don't know.
Yeah, I feel like they've probably,
I feel like a bigger gap though.
I feel like most people just probably moved on
from working on Bitcoin on chain at this point.
They're just like, ah, we're done with it.
I think there's a lot of people.
This is just, I don't think.
It's such a low priority.
They're just like, eh, who cares?
Yeah, I think it's just, this is like a...
Such a low priority thing.
I think it's a big thing.
It'd be cool if somehow this problem didn't exist.
Yeah, for sure.
I don't think there is.
I think it's like fundamental.
No one cares about on-chain anymore, to be honest.
Well, you were just talking about on-chain.
I mean, trust me, I'm going to start using on-chain stuff.
This would help me achieve my goal.
Okay, what do you think?
I want to send 300 on-chain transactions a week.
This will help me do it.
on chain. What kind of... Okay.
Just $5 on chain.
$300, $500
transactions a week.
Help me do this.
Well, good luck.
Interesting.
Great post. That's the gap limit problem.
If you want to read more about the gap limit
or any of these things that we cover in Wombos
Picks, which are usually... Wombos Picks!
Usually more fundamental Bitcoin
things that I'm
even not very super familiar
with. I would go to...
Don't like it.
Don't subscribe it.
Yeah, don't do that.
Don't do that.
Learnmeabitcoin.com.
There you go.
It has a lot of great explainers on basically everything Just like this learnmeabitcoin It a great website It interactive
Boom.
And it's been up forever.
Do it.
Is it just www?
I think you probably need, yeah, www.
See if that works.
Oh, there you go.
There you go.
But you can go, like, if you search for derivation path at the top there.
You can even learn how on-chain still is not complete.
derivation.
You can learn how derivation path,
how on-chain is not complete,
but we'd rather have inscriptions instead.
I think it's rather,
you said deveration.
Oh, dev.
C-E-R-I.
Oh, there he goes.
I found it.
There you go.
You can learn how some of the things
that we really need in Bitcoin
are just not important.
At the very bottom of this page,
they describe the gap limit in detail.
They kind of show how addresses are derived from the XPUB.
There you go.
And where it occurs.
You too can learn how this is not as important as inscriptions and ordinals.
Just like I did today.
Cool.
Thank you, Wumble, for picking this one.
we're going to jump into Keon's picks.
The first one you have was Noster Game Engine.
Wow.
Look at that frame rate.
What's this one?
Yeah.
I don't know about frame rates.
I'm not much of a gamer.
I just said that because it sounded about right.
Oh yeah.
I mean,
maybe we'll get back and forth.
The Skypod.
Gamers.
So Noster Game Engine is a game engine that RVLV is working on that is
sponsored by, it's like a patch into an existing game engine for Noster stuff. And it's sponsored
by OpenSats. And he's been doing release notes for like kind of pretty major things that he's
adding to the code base. In this case, he adds his Noster ads protocol. I guess he came up with
his own ads protocol. But yeah. Cool. Yeah. The general idea is that it creates a sort of using
Noster, it creates a sort of marketplace for ads.
Oh, he's using Noster?
He's using Noster for ads?
Yeah.
Where's that at?
Where do I go look at that?
Where do you want to look at what?
The ads thing.
Oh, the ads thing.
It's somewhere in there.
There we go.
Dedicated posts.
Got it.
Yeah.
Advertises, publish bids, Noster.
Yeah.
So basically, if you're running a game, you can kind of like look and see if there's anyone
who wants to put up an ad
and you can display them in your game
and make some money.
And so that's kind of,
so he wrote his own ad engine for that.
I think that he looked at some of the other ones
that existed,
he didn't really like them very much.
He found them to have problems.
So he wrote basically his own protocol for it.
And he shows it in the game
where as a person who's developing a game
using his Nostra game engine,
you can specify like walls in the game
for an ad to get displayed
or, you know, other places,
probably arbitrary places.
Yeah.
And I thought that was cool.
I'm liking these releases.
I'm looking forward to playing
a Nostraise game
at some point in the future.
Yeah, he's building an actual game
at some point, right?
I would guess so.
I mean, it's building in the engine,
but I would guess he would
dog food it into a game
at some point,
at least a simple one.
Cool.
Yeah.
Super cool stuff.
I love that he's building it.
What was the next one that you got?
You got the next one was your wildest drunk.
Oh, this is the EK one, right?
Yeah.
What was this one about?
Yeah, EK.
EK, I don't know why, but asked about everyone's wildest drunk story.
And so it's just, there's a lot of cool.
You learned about kind of a side of people that you wouldn't ordinarily learn about if you read through the comments.
But a lot, I mean, like South Korea LN described a time in Austin where they were without a shirt and without shoes.
walking down 6th Street.
Now it got robbed of his watch
and woke up in the middle of nowhere
without like,
and just like walking down a rural street.
I described two of many
wild drunk stories that I had,
but there's just a lot of them.
I agree, like pretty much most people
kind of shared stories like that.
And it's fun
Because, you know, it's like, this is the side of people,
it's like when their inhibitions are at their lowest.
And so they are kind of their most lizard-like self.
Most lizard.
What does that mean, most lizard?
Kind of like your base, more of your base person,
without all of the, like, self-control.
Fandango said, thankfully, there were no camera pics back in the day.
Am I right?
Yeah, dude.
Thank God there were no camera phone picks back in the day.
Look,
I said two DUIs.
One of them,
I crashed into a tree.
Yeah.
I had so many.
There's just too many to count.
I was in a band.
So that was just the things that we did.
I could tell you so many.
None for this.
None,
none,
none PG for this podcast.
None of them are PG.
Were you like,
we were,
I mean,
I was in a band,
dude.
Like it was like,
you know,
there are the people that did drugs and there's people that drink.
And I was always with people that were drinking.
I don't drink anymore.
Hmm.
Yeah.
I don't drink anymore.
Oh,
I mean,
whenever we do,
I mean,
we'll do it for like startup day or like,
um,
you know,
a special occasion.
Okay.
So you drink for special occasions.
Yeah.
For special occasions.
We're going to go drinking tonight.
Are you?
Um,
yeah.
John,
we're going to go get a pint,
a proper pint.
Proper pint of Guinness.
So yeah,
that'll be fun.
I haven't had a beer since
gosh
what was the last time I had a beer
since Juan was here
since Juan Galt was here
that was the last time I had a beer
that was back in like
May or April
really?
that was that long ago?
yeah
because he left in April I think
right before the crypto conference
I think that was the last time
yeah
yeah I think that was the last time
what did you say?
I don't think he's left in
oh yeah he's definitely not allowed to hang out with this anyway
yeah
sorry Juan
anyways that's all your stories
the one I wanted to bring up was
yeah the sad news this week was
from the Charlie
Kirk thing so they actually
caught the guy I don't know if you saw this Keanu
or if you were to pay attention to it
yeah I did I did
whoa I saw these ads
they popped
where are these ads coming from
yeah so they just announced
that they caught the guy who killed Charlie
Kirk this week I had never even heard
of this guy, Charlie Kirk, to be honest, until somebody brought him up in the lab.
I'd seen him around.
I didn't even know he existed. And then somebody was like, no, he's the mean guy. And I was like,
oh, that's him. And then that's when I recognized his face. But yeah, really sad, sad story.
Left behind a family, kids. Tragic, dude. Just so tragic because I can imagine what's going on
with like the family and stuff.
And now the kids are going to grow up without a dad
and like the amount of, yeah,
I just can't imagine like what that's going to do
to the kids growing up and how that's going to,
yeah, it's just sad to see
whenever some kind of tragedy happens
in a family like that.
That's the type of thing that like sticks around
for generations.
It just doesn't like, it just doesn't stop there.
It's like generational hurt.
That's the tragic thing about it.
The only reason I know that is because my grandfather happened similar, something like that, where he got shot.
Oh.
Yeah.
So that's a generational thing that'll stick in the family for years to come.
You mean just as a story or like your parents?
That was what my parents would tell me.
I see.
Story, yeah.
So that's what I'm saying.
That's a thing that'll like, it's like a story that they'll tell for generations.
so that's i feel sorry for the family and for the kids kids and it's just sad dude it's so sad
um so um yeah so they caught the suspect uh the suspect in the killing was identified as
tyler robinson uh he's being held without bail um on several charges um he's not talking to
investigators apparently from what cnn's saying apparently the uh the father uh became convinced
So the 22, he was 22, was a shooter.
It was after seeing photos shared by authorities.
And then that's when they turned him in.
The suspect initially balked at surrendering,
but then was persuaded to talk to a pastor
who works with law enforcement agencies, the sources said.
So it was like it was divine intervention there.
Investigator discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel and inscriptions, including one that read,
Hey, fascist catch were engraved on the case.
It's found with the rifle.
Yeah.
So that's, that's basically what happened.
That's him right there.
looks like a normal
normal dude
normal
normal kid
sad
um
sad for
sad for him too
whatever
whatever got in his
mind that made
him want to hurt someone
yeah I mean
because it's like
you know he was
psyop too as well
like on the other side
or whatever he was thinking
and
it's too bad that he
he also fell into
some darkness
as well too
yeah
I don't think.
Because they said his dad was a sheriff too as well.
So, I mean, I feel bad for the parents too as well.
I mean, I'm sure the parents don't feel happy about that, you know.
Hopefully they collected the prize.
Because, you know, I don't know if you've ever had a sibling
or a family member that's done something horrific,
but that's not a reflection on the siblings or the mom or the dad.
That's, that's just, you know.
Sometimes it just happens.
Sometimes it is a reflection of the siblings and the mom and dad,
but sometimes it just happens.
Sometimes it just happens.
Yeah.
So yeah, it's just sad to see.
It's a good thing that the dad turned him in and Pastor was able to intervene.
Yeah.
So just sad all the way around.
The other thing I wanted to bring up was this post by Kepford.
I thought this was a really good post from Kepford.
He posed the question,
is it wrong to be divisive?
This was on September 11th.
He says, he's divisive.
That was in quotations.
He said, this is something I have heard about Charlie Kirk.
Maybe that's a fair descriptor.
I don't know.
I was familiar with his work,
but I'm not interested in dissecting that at this time.
I'm not going to defend or lionize Kirk.
What happened to him is disgusting.
It makes my heart break for his family and our nation.
But this comment, he's divisive,
got me thinking. I often hear this word used as a way to get people to ignore someone saying things
they don't like or agree with, a way to quickly dismiss someone as a troublemaker. And then he
goes on to say some things about Christianity and about following Jesus and about how Jesus was
divisive as well. So Kian, I guess I'll ask you this. Is it wrong to be divisive?
uh i don't think it's wrong to be divisive i think there are i think you should if you're
going to be divisive you should be uh aware in touch with the consequences of it i don't i don't
think i don't think uh if i were divisive or anyone's divisive they should expect to get shot
and killed over it but you should expect people to be upset at you for being divisive that's kind
of like one of the known results of it um yeah i don't think i don't think him being divisive
is like an excuse for violence.
It's a lot like when people say,
you know, if you didn't want to be raped,
you shouldn't have dressed like that.
Like dressing, it's kind of a kind of similar thing.
Like I don't think someone dressing provocatively
justifies someone raping them.
Someone being divisive doesn't justify someone
committing violence against them.
So kind of similar thing.
I think it's not wrong to be divisive.
It's not wrong to dress the way that you want,
but I think in either case,
you need to be aware of the consequences
and that it attracts a certain type of person
who might be violent and prepare yourself for it.
But yeah, that's just like out of your control
as a person who wants to be divisive.
That's just the context in which you live,
the environment.
Yeah, I think, um, I definitely think now is a time to be divisive. I think there was a time when, you know, you probably didn't need to be divisive. I think now is definitely a time to be divisive. I don't think, I don't think everybody is in a position to be divisive, to be honest.
but I do think there is a definitely,
if you're a young man who is seeing a lot of this kind of like
just craziness in the world and you need to stand up and talk about these
things. Like, I think even the poor kid that, that shot the guy,
like he needs to, he should have voiced his opinions. Like, you know,
he didn't have to result in killing somebody.
It's never right to kill somebody over anything.
It's just the wrong way to go about things.
Except in self-defense, maybe.
But do you know what I mean?
This is why it's so important to meet people where they're at
and have a conversation about these things.
It's just all this could have been avoided.
And yeah, I don't think it's wrong to be divisive.
I think you should be talking about these things.
You should meet people.
we should have more conversations about this stuff.
I think, I think, I think I do agree with you.
I think in history, it has taught us,
even if you do say something in an eloquent, eloquent way,
and it's really profound and it's like,
and it actually moves people
and actually pushes the human race forward,
there is a really good chance
you are going to piss somebody off,
even the, even still by doing that.
And history has proven that to be the truth as well too.
Like you can look at any people in America's past
where they also got shot.
Like that is a thing.
So it doesn't matter how these words come out
or whether you use venom or not.
It's still a thing that can happen.
And so I think you just got to be aware of the situation
of what you're being divisive about.
And if you really do feel that kind of call to say something,
you should speak up.
I think for me personally, I've always spoken up for something that I truly believe in.
I won't do that unless I actually believe in the thing that I'm saying, even when other people don't agree with me.
But if I feel the call, the need to say something, I will say something.
I don't care if I'm the only person that's saying it.
But I think it's very important that we don't move away from saying the things that need to be said just because of this.
I think this is I think if there anything that comes from this is to be more divisive That what I would say is to say what you what needs to be said But also if you that other person on the other side of this divisiveness
go out and meet them halfway and have a conversation with them.
Don't respond with anger or don't respond.
Be divisive too. But from the other side of the argument, be divisive back.
Don't be violent back.
Exactly. So I thought this was a great post by Kepford.
I actually don't think you need it. I don't think I'm not, I don't think,
I don't think divisiveness is a virtue. So that's one area I would say I would push back.
I don't think divisiveness is, is necessarily a virtue. I think, I think it's a way to communicate
that gets a lot of attention, which might have value, but I don't think anyone should aim to
divide people, which is kind of fundamentally what divisiveness means is you are speaking
in a way that separates people more than they need to.
And so I don't associate that with virtue.
I think it might be the truth.
If you're speaking the truth and it happens to be divisive,
I think that's okay.
Speaking the truth is a virtue.
But I think speaking about things in a way
that don't need to be divisive,
putting them in a divisive way,
I think that isn't a virtue.
Cool.
Yeah.
That's all the stories that we had this week.
I think the other stuff we're going to get into is pretty much the zine.
Or should we do the, I guess we should do the grand prize winner.
Oh, yeah.
There was two.
We're going to get into meta stuff now.
So Stacker News Fiction Month prizes.
This was given out according to ZapRank.
So the top, I think it was like for that month,
the things in ZapRank that rank the highest,
the top 10 got 10,000 sats zap to them.
I'm surprised Bitcoin dog is not number one there.
Oh, he is though.
Oh, is he? Okay.
Yeah. Talent show shakeup. It's right there.
Oh, okay.
Yeah. So, yeah, I don't, I don't, you know,
ZapRank is not really well suited for this type of contest purpose.
So I don't, I wouldn't take, if anyone is like,
my story should be there. It's not there.
I would not take this as like a sign of your,
the worth of your story.
So.
Yeah.
It looks like everybody was confused about the.
Yeah.
The civil fee.
Yeah.
The civil fee tends to confuse people because they don't,
they don't understand the need for it.
But that,
that was part,
that was part of the confusion.
But I think the more,
I mean,
we had nearly 60 entries and only 10 of them got into this top
area. So I just
want to say that, but congrats to everyone
who won here. And then we also, the other
side of the prize is they gave out
the grand prize
winner. The grand prize winner, which was human
judged rather than algorithmically
judged,
was this one.
Billy the Ked. I don't even remember
this one, to be honest. I don't even
remember even seeing this one at all.
I don't even remember
seeing this. That's how you know
the judges read all of them.
No one commented on it.
Yeah, it has multiple parts to it.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, but all the judges like this one the best.
We have three judges.
Is this part two?
I think there are references to poems.
Oh, this is part one.
This is continuing, yeah, part one.
Oh, okay.
I think they went on a little bit with it.
I'll check it out.
I'll read this at some point.
Let me bookmark it.
Yeah, so that one, this one won 100,000 sat.
prize what was this about uh i did not i have still not read this one no one i'm not the judge
no one read the grand prize story not no we have two people here the judge has read all
just gorsby and siggy read the grand prize story this one is this one i've bookmarked i need to
get it's like most there should have been like a people's there's this is just me talking about
my butt so don't listen to me guys there should have been a people's choice award thousand thousand
sat people choice award.
That's kind of what the ZapRank one was.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
But it's kind of hard to do.
Yeah.
ZapRank measures things that aren't intended to be measured.
I guess everybody liked Billy the Kid one.
Or Siggy and...
Looks like Siggy and...
And Scores would be like Billy the Kid.
I suppose.
They all read all the stories
and they decided this was the one that
I think met the details of the prom best
and that they liked the most.
Yes.
pretty cool stuff
I think my favorite one was
Real Bitcoin Doggy's post
I think that was freaking awesome
he really kept it
he really kept it professional
I don't know if he saw any of his posts
let me see if I can go to it
where was it at
he kept it professional with all his posts
where is it at
let me go here this week
I think he talked about his
he also references himself in the third person
which you guys shared
I'm common
He goes
9th place acceptance speech
He goes real Bitcoin dog
wins top 10
talent show shake up real Bitcoin dog
Yeah he goes
honored, he goes I'm honored to be in this group
He basically
said that he had to do a lot of
pawing to get up there
He wants to know if you actually
read his, did you read his
his thing?
Did you read his?
He wants to know.
I read a handful of stories.
Did you read his story though?
I did not read his story.
Are you going to read a story now
that he placed number nine though?
Because like it's a big deal,
Keon,
like he's number nine.
I'm not sure that
obligates me to read the story.
It's when I see people talking,
it's like when you talk
in third person,
I like zone out.
I don't hear a word.
I don't hear a word you say.
It's like this guy is on one.
Something's going on.
I don't,
he's real Bitcoin dog.
I mean,
you got to,
you got to do the same thing
you did last week.
I'm just saying
Keon is not going to read your story
My plan is to go through and read
most of them
He talks about Stacker News the whole way through
That's even worse
It's actually a really good story
It could be made into a movie
I don't want to read a story about Stacker News
It could be made into a movie
I wouldn't be surprised if Real Bitcoin Doggy
gets optioned for this story
Wow
Netflix might pick this up
I don't believe you're telling
and I think you're being silly.
It's all silly.
Anyway, I thought this was great.
He even tried to get-
He's got abs now.
He even tried to get Pleb Poet to read it Apparently she did Yeah talking to Pleb Poet she was upset She thought real bad Oh really was cheating a little bit Why Well because he like
went on to Twitter
and he's like,
comment on my...
Oh, wow.
Comment on my post,
I'll zap you.
So he was like,
I mean,
doing like fake engagement
and stuff.
I mean,
sounds like he needs
to do that for you.
It's like excluded.
It was not part of the rules
that you couldn't do that.
Shoot or shoot.
Anyways,
really good stuff. I think it's fantastic
that Billy Kidd won.
It's fantastic that
Plutpo got second and third, right?
I think so.
Yeah. Pluttastic that she won.
All the other winners, Real Bitcoin Dog number
nine. Might get an option as a
Netflix story. You never know.
And just Keyon is the only one that hasn't read it.
Definitely won't. I think most people probably
haven't read it.
I'm not even sure you read it.
No, I did read it.
I did read it.
It's really good.
Even Grey Ruby read it.
He's in the story.
Well, Grey, yeah.
Grey Ruby and Real Bitcoin Dog,
they're like,
they're almost like undisciplined
in Grey Ruby.
That's great.
They're pretty thick as thieves.
Anyway, we're going to jump
into Play Poets Zine number 25.
Kian, did you check this out?
Yeah.
So we have the Zine now.
It has a yellow cover
and white pages.
Looks really good.
Yeah.
And there's a game in here.
There's a game?
Yeah.
A crossword puzzle game?
It's like, yeah, it's a crossword puzzle.
No, it's like a find a word game this week.
We have the results or the answers for the crossword puzzle the week before.
From the week before.
Cool stuff.
Yeah.
Simple stackers, top post there.
Yeah.
It's really coming together, I think.
It looks more official now with the classifieds.
Look at that.
Yeah.
Go Packy logo.
Classified on the back.
Get a rest in peace, Charlie Kirk there.
Well, we took two squares.
Hey, I'm supporting y'all's classified section.
Yeah.
You're welcome.
Yeah, that's awesome.
Agora is supporting you too.
We have two Charlie Kirk messages.
Someone said smile more.
I don't know.
Are they talking to you?
Probably EK.
Probably EK said smile more.
Look at all these supporters of the zine.
Look at that.
Snacker Muse territory supporting you.
Yeah, that's cool.
All right, you're creative writing.
Go on Agora.
Stack Sats, SimpleStacker said stay humble with Stack Sats, BlockHeight.
Sell some stuff on Agora.
Got Startup Day promoting there.
Good stuff.
Yeah, I like the classifieds thing.
Maybe we'll do...
Yeah.
Keep doing it.
Get your copy.
If you want to read the web version, it's all here in the GitHub.
The GitHub.
If it loads, it'll load.
It's a pretty big one.
It's like 18 megabytes.
Cool.
looks like we got some
where is it at we got some fountain boost this week
got blockchain books said
actually we forgot to do cowboys let's do cowboys first
and then we'll jump into that
cowboys baby
where's cowboys top
cowboys of the week
giddy on up this is
we got a ciggy 47 with the
number one cowboy
he's going
see he's doing that right now
No, I don't see it.
He's not doing it.
You're doing it.
Top cowboy.
They got Coob.
Coob.
Undiscipline.
Blockchain Book.
Grey Ruby.
Coins Reporter.
All the top stackers running out.
Top five.
Coins Reporter.
Public Enemy.
Number eight, Hiding.
Wait, that wasn't Hiding last week, was it?
I don't think it was.
I think it was.
I think there's always been someone
that's kind of high up there that hides.
Optimism's climbing.
Number 12, Scorchies climbing.
Number 14, Snacker and Hiding.
Yeah, GMD's up there.
OT.
Where's that QT?
OT.
Carter climbing.
Socks.
He was 21 last week.
Right now he's 20.
Real Bitcoin doggy going up.
Going up.
Paul on his way.
Paul on his way to number one.
Catford, number 24.
Got EK, 26.
Yeah, look at that.
Any of these stick out to you, Keon?
I mean, it looks like there's not been a whole lot of movement,
but I can see some of them climbing up.
Surprise Pleppo, it's in position 50.
It's usually all the way at the bottom.
Yeah.
We got Moneyball in there, Jimmy Song, Max, Signal 312, Philippe.
We got Shock, number 70.
just in shock
that
nifty
nay
nine
she has nine
accounts
that's what I
thought
when she posted
with him
she was like
no I lost
my twitter login
I don't know
or it doesn't
work or something
I don't know
I have to check
got the charlatan
who's the charlatan
that's near it
I don't know
phoenix
oh there's
oscar
hey
oscar
like
coin
fiat bad
oh there I am
96
oh cool
the mic
dead beef
and
who's the last one
a non-89
there you go that rounds out all the top
cowboys baby
that's number one
what do you call it
how do you say it's number one
segment number one segment in all of
bitcoin actually probably all
of segments probably as well
you include
segments from other places like
arts and crafts or
we got the
zaps from last week
blockchain boog said zap
he also said I agree car stop using telegram
for support
shooting from the hip boog that's all I do
oh
undisciplined said Coop's got riz
there you go Coop you got riz
I don't know I think I'm still
he's only got riz
still unbalanced he's only got riz on this podcast
undisciplined
you get him alone
He has no wrists
Yeah
No I don't have
You should have saw him
In front of Nick Carter
He had no wrists
What are you talking about
Nick like
He touched my jewelry
Well he was trying to
Court you
That was weird
That's because of my wrists dude
No he saw that you
Were super tizz
Oh
And then he reached out
To like
He was trying to
Like sapiosexual
Yeah he was like
He was trying to
He was like trying to
He was like trying to like
He's probably a tizz whisperer
Actually
He might be
He might be a tizz whisperer
That might be,
that might explain
our mutual attraction.
Yeah,
he probably was
trying to whisper
into your tiz.
Well,
he did like
get real close to it Yeah he was trying to do this Yeah that must be how it worked Anyways Then we got YouTube comments Stay in the drive lane That what Vake said about the Taco Bell
That was your top YouTube comment pick?
Apparently.
Vake just keeps it up.
I'm surprised every time I go through the YouTube notification.
He just likes talking about staying in lanes.
By the way, can you see my YouTube watch history
when I'm on the Stacker News Live account?
I don't know.
I use it too sometimes
To watch stuff
I just wonder if we can see
Each other's
YouTube history
I mean
I watch like car videos
Or whatever
Oh really?
I mean
I never look through the history
Or just weird videos
Like I'll find like a how-to
On something weird
And I'll be like
Man, a month is long
I never look through the history
Okay, well
Now I'm gonna go look through the history
Yeah, I just wanna
I'm just wondering
If we can see each other's history
I never looked through it
To be honest
But I'm gonna go look through it
I cleared it the other day
Oh, that's good
Because I was like
Wait
Cargan
I don't really...
Carmine know that I'm looking at harmoniums right now.
Oh, that's interesting.
We got some comments in the...
Oh, here.
Okay, it looks like Optimism's had.
Kube, I ran a donation address off at Impa for three years back
when BIP32 was new,
and I never had a gap past 60 without reuse,
so one out of most 60 people sent me sets.
What is he saying there?
Oh.
okay so we never had a gap bigger than 60 so does that mean in english
he's saying that most of these uh if you're generating bigger gaps than that you probably
have a bug basically there's no reason to discard that many unpaid addresses okay yeah good one
optimism um things take care of itself thank you that's a long view i mean i really do think
Sometimes you just got to let things play out, dude.
Yeah.
I think you really do.
Most of the time these days, as I get older, I just let things go like this.
He also makes sense.
It just goes like this.
Yeah.
Hands grip each other as you go forward.
Sometimes in your favor, too.
Yeah.
He said something interesting where it's like in his own wallet software,
he basically recorded where the last invoice generation was.
so that he didn't, within his own software system,
he didn't have the gap limit problem.
Yeah.
Because even if he generated large gaps,
he still knew that he had to go where his last checkpoint was.
But it's really, if you're like,
if he imports that XPUB into another wallet,
it doesn't have that index in it.
So maybe there should be, it'd be nice of you if we had,
we can create another BIF.
Another BIF that when you export a wallet,
it includes this index,
the last unpaid invoice index.
And then he also said
Do-Re-E.
Is that how you say that?
It's French.
Do-Re-E.
Do-Re-E?
Yeah, Do-Re-E.
Do-Re-E.
Yeah.
Do-Re-E.
I don't know why just everyone doesn't live in America.
yeah
that's such an American
thing to say
dude I was watching
speaking of
have you been watching
the Amanda Knox
thing on Hulu
have you seen that
the Amanda Knox series
I don't know
that's crazy
is that like a true crime thing
no
so they like
so the Amanda Knox story
was a big thing
or at least for us probably
because I don't know
if you ever saw
she was the exchange student
that went to
France or
was it
no Italy I think
no Italy
and then she got convicted
of the whole crime
and then they kept her
murdered her boyfriend
or something
No, like some other thing.
And then she got convicted of it.
So they made a Hulu thing.
A true crime series.
Yeah.
It's really good.
I was watching that.
I don't like true crime.
I was watching that this past week.
The last one I watched.
I don't like watching that stuff,
but I felt like I had to watch that
just because it was like right around the time
when I was like coming up.
And I remember hearing about that all over.
You came up?
No, but you know what I mean?
Like that was,
it was like right around the time growing up
where I was just like,
all you heard about was Amanda Knox
and the Smola kind of like that.
So I was like, I feel like I know this person
even though I don't know this person.
The last True Crime I watched was Jinx.
I really liked that.
But I don't know.
Everything else is like too, it's too much.
I don't like, it's so,
they're so focused on the negative.
Yeah.
It was too violent.
Like I had to close my eyes
on some of the violent stuff.
I was just like, I can't watch the violent stuff.
I just closed my eyes.
The other thing was really cool.
They have a new Alien series.
What?
They have a new Alien series.
Oh, they had an exhibit for South by Southwest here for it.
Dude, the Alien series, the first episode sucks.
But as it gets better, it gets actually pretty good.
It's actually a pretty good, it's only like six episodes long.
Okay.
It's actually really good.
I didn't know about that.
I'm going to run out of Star Trek episodes at some point.
That one's good.
So the best thing I've seen recently, though, is they made a Predator movie.
But it's like an anime or like a cartoon.
thing. Dude, it's so good. Like if you can get over the fact that it's a cartoon and watch it,
it's so freaking good. Is it done in an anime style or it's like, yeah, it's like a, it's like
a realistic version of it, but they, I mean, I don't want to give anything away. Cause like,
if I give anything away, it'll like ruin everything for you. You're better just watching
this like cartoon of predator and not knowing anything. That's the best I could do for you.
Because if you watch it or watch a trailer, you're going to ruin it.
Because I didn't know anything.
I just knew Predator, cartoon, watch it.
And I did.
And I was just not.
I was just like, as I was watching, I was like, whoa, did not see that coming.
And then I was like, whoa.
And then at the end, I was like, oh, snap.
It's like, I'm here.
Anyways, stackers.
I have too much tiz for animation.
Yeah, me too.
Dude, it was stackers.
If you're listening to this.
watch the predator thing.
I was going to do a review on it,
but I feel like that would just give up too much.
Anyways.
Let them know.
That's all the posts this week.
Make sure to send your on-chain addresses.
Make sure let's take the on-chain back.
Let's really do this.
Yeah, don't suffer the gap limit problem.
Don't suffer the gap limit problem.
Save the last 10 points index.
Be divisive.
What else did we learn this week?
Artificial intelligence.
Yeah, don't let AI take your art from you.
and stay in school.
I think that's what we learned.
I think that's everything.
Yeah.
Don't let AI take your seat
in your class.
Keyon.
Yes.
Zap.