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Live from Fled Lab in Austin, Texas, this is Stacker News Live!

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Hello ladies and gentlemen, welcome back to another exciting episode of Stacker News Live

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with the BFF.

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Keon!

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Yeah!

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Keon!

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Keon!

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Keon!

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Keon!

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Keon!

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I feel like I'm like a rodeo queen or something.

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You're just like announcing.

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Keon!

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Keon!

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Keon!

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Keon!

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Keon!

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Did you ever play that game?

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Was it Red Dead Redemption?

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He's like,

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Gideon up, Gideon up, Gideon up.

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Definitely don't remember that.

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He's like, Gideon up, Gideon up.

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He's just like riding the horse.

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He's like, Gideon up, Gideon up.

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It's just kind of dumb

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because it's just like,

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do you really have to do that?

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Like, can you not ride the horse

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and say Gideon up when you're riding it?

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Well, I think.

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It kind of sounds like,

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Gideon up, Gideon up.

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Like that.

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I think we got,

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I think we got that part.

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I don't, but I don't,

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I had never played that game

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and I don't recall overhearing,

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like that, that.

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I didn't hear that.

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You might just be doing a poor impersonation though.

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Probably.

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It's possible, but maybe not.

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Maybe it's spot on.

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Maybe it's spot on.

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You know what you're impersonating well.

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How was your week?

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How was my week?

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My week was pretty good.

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I'm very, very sore.

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Sore? Why are you sore?

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I did five days of vinyasa in a row.

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Oh, nice.

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Which is like guacamole,

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but without the guac.

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Yeah, but it's like with hummus instead

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because it's from yoga people.

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Oh, nice.

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Yeah, that's what it is.

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So I ate vinyasa, lots of vinyasa.

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It sounds good.

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It's delicious.

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Yeah, with pita bread.

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It's really delicious, actually.

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It makes me sore because it's tough.

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You eat it with pita chips

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or is it more like, you know, just straight?

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Well, you don't want to do, you know,

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you don't need to do chip.

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You don't need to turn a pita into a chip.

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That's like kind of a modern thing.

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You can just do a soft bread with it.

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Vinyasa with some normal pita bread.

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So good.

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Yeah.

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That's right.

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How about your week?

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How was your week?

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It was good.

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It was pretty busy.

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I started editing the Sacker News live DVD that we're releasing at TapConf 7.

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Get your tickets now while you still can.

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Dude, the first episodes, like Wumble's been releasing some old clips.

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some old clips, throwback clips,

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but those aren't necessarily the ones that are going to be in there.

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But man, dude, they're...

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Dude, the old...

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Let's just say the first 100 episodes was really funny, man.

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Was it?

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Yeah, it was good.

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Like I was telling Janet today, I was like, man...

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We were funny.

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We were funny.

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It kind of reminds me of Sesame Street, though.

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Sesame Street?

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It reminds me of Sesame Street.

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It also reminds me of like a show for autists.

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It really is a show for artists.

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Like at least the first,

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the first,

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like the first DVD

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that we come out with,

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like when people watch it,

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they're going to be like,

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man,

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that was such a good watch.

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You're going to be like,

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man,

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that was a good episode.

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But yeah.

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Who likes Sesame Street.

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pretty much.

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But it's good.

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Blood Blood's going to make the cover.

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And yeah,

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we're going to release the DVD at Tapcom.

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Do we know how much it's going to cost?

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I don't know.

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I don't know.

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We need to figure out the cost,

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but

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I'm going to order all this other stuff today.

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And then I should have, I have the first edit done.

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I need to do a, I need to watch it all the way through

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and then go back and make sure everything looks good

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and then watch it one more time.

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But I was cracking up when I was editing it.

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I was like, that's when I knew it was good.

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I was like, oh, this is so funny.

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You told me you were afraid the first like 50 to 100 episodes

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wouldn't be that good.

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They're like, wouldn't be that much in there.

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Did you change your mind after watching?

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Well, I realized like a lot of the stuff, we just went off the rails.

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Like there's so much stuff in the beginning that we, like you could see our night.

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How do you say that?

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I gave a take.

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You could see our that.

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You could see that definitely.

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I think now we're just freaking jaded.

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We're so jaded, bro.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Oh, we need to get back there.

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We need to get back there.

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I don't think we can.

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We're so jaded.

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We're so experienced now and way better looking than we were back then for sure.

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Oh, I'm definitely not.

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Yeah, we're way better looking to let it go.

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About 200%.

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What was I going to say?

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But it's just, yeah, it's good to see like old us back then.

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There were some things that we definitely got right,

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some things that we got wrong.

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But for the most part, I think Wumble picked some really good stuff.

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We dropped the green screen.

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What about that?

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Oh, yeah, yeah.

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The green screen, having the green screen back then made the show.

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you could totally see the show is way better with the green screen,

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us inside of the thing.

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Should we bring the green screen back?

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I think we should.

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I think maybe after we hit 200, we should bring back the green screen.

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Why did we get rid of that?

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Because freaking pleb dev stole our green screen.

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Oh.

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Yeah.

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Okay.

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Well, let's get it back.

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We should bring it back, though.

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I like how dumb it is.

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It's just dumb.

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Yeah, it was cool.

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It was cool having the green screen.

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We should totally bring it back.

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I don't know.

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Anyways, if you've never seen this crazy show before,

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it's called Stacker News Live.

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We cover the top five stories here

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on the front page of Bitcoin,

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stacker.news every week.

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Like I said, Wombo's been posting a lot of cool clips,

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some old ones.

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There's some throwback ones.

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I think the most popular one last week

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was the gold confiscation.

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Apparently that one,

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or actually that one was a throwback clip

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when we talked about gold a long time ago.

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Oh, I remember that.

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I don't remember that one,

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but current town people like hearing about gold.

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Now I remember hearing.

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They went through and found a bunch of old gold stuff around it.

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Cool.

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We're going to be talking about gold today again.

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And then what was the other one?

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I think that's,

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I think that's pretty much it.

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Cool.

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Hit subscribe,

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hit subscribe.

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You have a podcast like this for gold where they cover gold.

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I'm sure they do.

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Top five gold.

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Peter Schiff.

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I think Peter Schiff,

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he'd be typing Peter Schiff.

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he's like the gold guy,

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but,

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Thank you for watching the show for Autists.

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I appreciate it.

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Hit subscribe if you're one of those people.

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We need to get over 500.

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I don't think we're ever going to.

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I think Autists don't subscribe to podcasts.

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Oh, well, that makes sense.

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Maybe they can't find the buttons because they can't tell the colors apart.

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I think that's what happens with Autists.

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Don't subscribe.

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That's what you have to tell them.

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It's something the opposite.

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Oh, I see.

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Don't subscribe.

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We don't want to get popular.

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I see.

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Because if we get popular, then no one will watch it.

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They're sensitive to reverse psychology.

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Yeah.

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So don't subscribe.

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We don't want to hit 500.

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Yeah, we don't.

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We want to get to zero.

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We actually want you to unsubscribe.

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If you're subscribed already, look and check.

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Look and check.

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We want you to unsubscribe.

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Because you might be hurting our numbers.

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Yeah.

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We want to go the other way.

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Because honestly, like I was looking at the old clips.

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You can tell we didn't care what we said back then.

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Like at all.

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Now you can see us like care what we say.

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So if you unsubscribe and unwatch us, then this will help us not care.

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Don't share this podcast with your friends.

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We need to get less popular.

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Less popular.

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We'll just start releasing DVDs.

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Yeah.

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That's the way you want to watch this podcast.

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We'll just record 100 episodes and release DVDs.

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It's the best way.

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We're going to jump into the top five stories of the week.

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the number five top story is a PSA from Nicholas.

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How do you pronounce that last name?

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Doer?

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Dreyer?

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Doer?

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It could be.

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It could be something like that.

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Doer?

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I don't think it's a doer.

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These people, they're from like all over the earth

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and use different words and names.

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I don't know what that's up to.

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Yeah, it might be a doer.

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I'm going to go Nicholas Doer

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for those who run a BTC pay server on a VPS.

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This is from DarthCoin, five comments, 1,002 cents.

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September 9th, Bitcoin territory.

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Read the whole thread, he says.

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Kion, what's this?

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Yeah, I guess BTC Pay Server for a number of years now

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has been telling people how to set up BTC Pay Server

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using, I think, Luna Node.

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And for only $7 a month, you can host BTC Pay Server.

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um you know btc pay server is a non-custodial kind of wrapping service for a bitcoin node that

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gives you e-commerce like features allows you to like present invoices to people that they can pay

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and you are you know in control of it fully self um especially if you like hosting btc pay server yourself but for most of the customers that BTC pay server has they were using Luna node

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which is like a cloud storage platform that has really good rates.

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So most of them are on a very cheap instance,

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$7 per month,

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which comes with a 20 gigabyte hard drive.

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And so Nicholas is writing about this because the UTXO set,

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the unspent transaction,

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output set has grown so large that even while they have most of their customers use prune nodes,

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it will be the 20 gigabyte hard drive on that $7 instance will run out of storage.

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And they will basically have to start their BTC pay server from scratch mostly because

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you can't, you like, he predicts you likely can't recover from running out of storage.

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Or it will be very difficult.

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I don't know if he's running simulations of it, but so he, so he's writing this in the

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context of the op return debate, the knots versus core stuff, filters, non-filters, and

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saying that, you know, cause a lot of, a lot of what's driving the size of the UTXO set

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it are these inscriptions and ordinals and these non-monetary uses of Bitcoin.

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And they're done in such a way that they create unspent transaction outputs that you cannot prune,

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that you need to store forever, that we all need to store forever for running a Bitcoin node.

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And so, yeah.

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So he says the op return might, you know, relaxing the op return limits might cause these people storing storage in a way where the unfruitable transaction outputs, it might reduce that and allow more people to run BTC pay server on a cheaper node.

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So otherwise they have to upgrade to something like a $14.

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They have to double the cost of running their infrastructure.

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So he writes about that.

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And that's like a nice, it's a nice example for the community because a lot of the debate is otherwise kind of theoretical and ideological.

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And so this is like a practical example from someone who is serving real people using Bitcoin on a regular basis and telling us how these decisions affect them.

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and it's a pretty awesome post for that reason.

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The quote with the top comment was from South Korea.

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Lightning said Antoine's post is quite interesting too.

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Responding to Mechanic asking why increasing op return would be useful.

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Then he quotes it.

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We got Carter said, this is what I've been saying.

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We need a way to allow people to return data without stuffing it into random fields.

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Op return at least helps, even if it's more expensive,

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because it allows people to explicitly say this is data.

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so you don't grow the UTXO.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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You got anything else on this?

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Not really.

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I think I said most of what I wanted to say.

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The next top story,

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it's time to build a new grid.

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This is from Max Webster,

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September 11th,

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eight comments,

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10K boost, baby.

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12,100 sats.

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Key on, what's this?

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Yeah.

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So this is a post from Max

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that is about solar.

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Max is a huge solar bowl.

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He's been working or started a startup career working as one of the first employees of a solar company in Mexico.

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And I think has stayed a solar bowl since then.

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He cites a number of developments here about the way that solar is becoming cheaper.

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The storage for solar is becoming cheaper.

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how we're seeing countries like China really expand their solar generation.

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And he also pairs that with a lot of the discussion around the need for additional electricity

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for all of these AI data center stuff that people are doing.

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Like no one really wanted to talk about this kind of stuff when it was for Bitcoin or altcoin mining.

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But now that it has like, you know, it's kind of like sanctioned by Silicon Valley, there's a lot more discussion about data center energy needs and the fact that producing more energy is good.

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It's funny how that changed, right?

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It changed so fast.

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It's so messed up.

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I love it though.

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So fast.

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So it's nice as we have, we have basically at least on the energy side, we have Silicon Valley on our side now.

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So there'll never be like that green skull thing.

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They'll like.

364
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Yeah, because they were full on the other side.

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They were full on the other side.

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And now all of a sudden AI.

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And I mean, it's crazy how that changed.

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I wonder if those proof of stake chains even would have emerged

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if like the AI boom had coincided with like the cycle

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when they started working on that stuff.

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What do you mean?

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Because like the proof of stake, like they started,

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they were, they switched, a lot of these chains switched over

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to proof of stake because of all the energy FUD.

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Oh, yeah. Yeah, they did, right?

376
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Yeah.

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Yeah, I remember that.

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I wonder if they probably wouldn't have done that.

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It probably wouldn't even occur to them that's a big deal.

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They probably would have respected the fact that it's quite expensive and energy intensive to maintain their chains.

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Anyway, yeah, so he writes about solar, the emergence of solar, like how solar is like growing and like incredibly cost effective and is getting deployed.

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and especially in China, huge, huge volumes.

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And they share some cool graphs.

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Like some of the data in here is pretty crazy.

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Like I think for every doubling of solar deployed,

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it reduces the cost of all future solar deployments

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by like 40%, I think.

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And so you can just see how,

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So like it's a very, the feedback loop is very positive.

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And then he also describes there's a similar trend for solar energy storage with lithium ion batteries,

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where I think every doubling of solar energy storage that gets deployed, you get like a 20 to 30% reduction in like future deployment costs.

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So you have these trends that are showing that it's going to get pretty cheap to produce solar energy.

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and you have lots of demand for solar energy.

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And so he writes a bit about that.

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And then that kind of dovetails into ideas

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about more decentralized grids

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and how he might see kind of solar take over a grid

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or become more dominant on a grid.

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And he has a few ideas about how that might happen.

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But primarily he sees more like off-grid data centers

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coming online that are primarily powered by solar

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and not connected to the grid at all.

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And so don't really have many requirements in that regard.

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And getting deployed in places like Texas

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or other places in the South

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where they don't have a lot of regulations

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around off-grid power.

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And then eventually those,

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eventually they end up connecting into the grid

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and then kind of competing in a way that they win

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with other energy sources on the grid.

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And yeah, he just kind of lays out

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the way he thinks it comes together over time.

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And I think it's pretty compelling.

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Like I said in the comments that I've been kind of hesitant

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to be a solar bull.

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I've always liked the idea of solar,

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but I've always been kind of hesitant

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because I don't know what the end-to-end costs of solar are or something like wind because no one

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really talks about them because it's all like, this is green energy, it's good. We don't need

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to talk about anything, but the fact that it's good. And that kind of puts me off as a person

422
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who is kind of skeptical of the things people say. And so I don't, I've been, but this makes a pretty

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compelling case. He doesn't get into end-to-end costs, but he does get into why it's good and why

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it's good not just for you know the uh the environment but also good for uh freedom uh

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people can generate their own energy and and good for people who like to consume energy because it's

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cheaper i'm still i'm still not certain what the end-to-end costs are especially of like

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batteries producing lots and lots of batteries are those how you can how environmentally

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good as that relative to pumping a well. I don't know, but.

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Yeah, I think short term, I mean, just from the only experience I have with

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all the mining stuff and solar stuff is just from working with Kardashev for a year

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when they were in our accelerator and the, all the alpha that they would give me about

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what was going on in Mexico and Latin America And you know I think just I think he hit it right on the nail when he talked about the off stuff That exactly what happening in Mexico and Latin America There just so much underutilized energy that just not being tapped into and you know potential deals just there

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It's just, you know, somebody putting some capital to work, really.

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It's all that's standing in the way of that.

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The other thing I think long-term, I think, I think we got to go to the stars.

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I mean, there's just, I think Elon's going to do it.

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I think Bezos is going to do it.

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And I think any other startup that's thinking about doing it off earth.

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I think that's, I think you look at any sci-fi book, everybody talks about that.

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I think Ted, me and Ted always talk about that.

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That's where all the, that's where, that's where we're going to get most of the energy

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that we need to, to do the things eventually.

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And I think that's where I will, hopefully we see that in my, at least I want to see

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that at least once in my lifetime.

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But I do think, I do think there's a lot of off-grid stuff, but I do think if you're

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thinking long-term, I think off Earth is where most of the energy is going to have to come from.

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You're going to put like a solar.

448
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I'm not the guy.

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I don't know how to do that, but I wouldn't dare.

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I'm not the space kind of guy.

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I'm just wondering how we're going to import energy back.

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I don't know.

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Somebody needs to figure it out.

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Here we go.

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Here we go.

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We've got Ted.

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Ted, how do we do it, Ted?

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Oh, hang on.

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Hang on.

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Let me make sure I get the right one.

461
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Okay.

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Go for it.

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You probably don't, to be honest, just because you've got, what are the diffraction index

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or whatever the right number is for the atmosphere.

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It's very difficult to beam energy through the atmosphere.

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It diffuses very quickly.

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So I think refract.

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So how do we get enough energy from like the moon

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or from a traveling asteroid or the Ooma Luma or whatever?

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It's got a lot of energy.

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And if you're in space, you get more of it

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because you're not blocked by the atmosphere.

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However, the atmosphere does filter out a lot of the harmful.

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bandwidths that you might not normally,

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that might not help you generate more solar in space.

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And also the place we'd be going is likely away from the sun.

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So we're actually like getting less sunlight,

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but in terms of like net energy and resources,

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obviously it's infinite in space and finite on earth.

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So that I agree with you,

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Carla,

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like that's the destination.

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I would say my personal ethos is that like humans are kind of like a,

484
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fire or a locust swarm that we just go out and consume and eat everything.

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So I love solar and wind and all this other stuff.

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I don't think that sustainability is like a valid or like,

487
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I don't think it's possible, feasible.

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Like I don't see any sort of logical reason why that would ever be achieved.

489
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But I mean, maybe no one can know how, you know,

490
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life kind of evolves in the future.

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but I think in the end we're just going to go out

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and eat every possible energy

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source we can find

494
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I think so too, yeah

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that's a good thing, because we like life

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and you know, it's going to maybe cause

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the demise of the universe faster

498
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but it's not really a demise

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because we're experiencing it, right?

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and so we give things value, they don't have

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intrinsic value before we observe them

502
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so we might as well go observe the shit out of everything

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as quickly as possible

504
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yeah, I think it'll be a long time before we consume

505
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all the energy in the universe, but

506
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Yeah.

507
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It's just like anything, like with anything that has enough throughput, you add another.

508
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It's like the freeway, you know, the whole thing they say about freeways, like if you add another lane, it's just going to lead to more traffic.

509
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Yeah, exactly.

510
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It's just that kind of thought.

511
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What is the rule?

512
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There's a rule to it.

513
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I forget that dude's name.

514
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Do you know the name of the rule?

515
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I feel like you would be the kind of person.

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Yeah, I've heard of it.

517
00:22:26,464 --> 00:22:30,844
Yeah, there's like a Javon's paradox, I think is what it is.

518
00:22:31,024 --> 00:22:31,424
Yeah.

519
00:22:31,424 --> 00:22:35,524
where it's like the cheaper you make something,

520
00:22:35,844 --> 00:22:38,024
the more demand increases.

521
00:22:39,184 --> 00:22:41,964
It's like, or the more efficient something becomes,

522
00:22:41,984 --> 00:22:43,124
the more people use it.

523
00:22:43,404 --> 00:22:45,644
Rather than like you get the same usage

524
00:22:45,644 --> 00:22:46,844
with a higher level efficiency.

525
00:22:46,844 --> 00:22:48,624
So you have like reduced consumption

526
00:22:48,624 --> 00:22:49,904
and like reduced waste.

527
00:22:50,304 --> 00:22:52,724
You end up kind of just increasing

528
00:22:52,724 --> 00:22:56,524
people's usage of it sort of proportionally.

529
00:22:56,804 --> 00:22:58,504
So you end up with the same waste levels,

530
00:22:58,504 --> 00:22:59,904
but it's like serving more people.

531
00:23:00,284 --> 00:23:02,684
That's why I think off-earth makes the most sense.

532
00:23:03,744 --> 00:23:06,564
It's like, I don't know how that's to be achieved,

533
00:23:06,664 --> 00:23:07,584
but it's in every sci-fi.

534
00:23:07,724 --> 00:23:09,664
Yeah, I don't know if it serves earthlings

535
00:23:09,664 --> 00:23:13,924
if we're getting energy from outside the atmosphere.

536
00:23:14,784 --> 00:23:16,964
Yeah, so there's a really good argument I heard

537
00:23:16,964 --> 00:23:19,744
by this guy Isaac Arthur on YouTube.

538
00:23:20,444 --> 00:23:22,084
And he's a really good,

539
00:23:22,544 --> 00:23:24,484
he basically would be a sci-fi author,

540
00:23:24,484 --> 00:23:26,184
but he just does everything in YouTube format.

541
00:23:26,804 --> 00:23:28,444
And he made a really good pitch

542
00:23:28,444 --> 00:23:30,304
about industrializing the moon,

543
00:23:30,444 --> 00:23:32,224
which is what is the number one

544
00:23:32,224 --> 00:23:34,744
economic benefit the moon has?

545
00:23:35,204 --> 00:23:36,764
And it's like they don't really have anything

546
00:23:36,764 --> 00:23:37,604
if you think about it.

547
00:23:37,844 --> 00:23:38,924
But the one thing they do have

548
00:23:38,924 --> 00:23:42,864
is a very advantageous energy position

549
00:23:42,864 --> 00:23:44,564
to get things in low Earth orbit.

550
00:23:45,124 --> 00:23:47,284
So we know how valuable low Earth orbit is.

551
00:23:47,524 --> 00:23:50,464
Spy satellites, Starlink, GPS, imaging,

552
00:23:51,104 --> 00:23:52,144
you know, kind of the basics.

553
00:23:52,444 --> 00:23:54,384
It's a lot cheaper energetically

554
00:23:54,384 --> 00:23:56,944
to drop something into that position

555
00:23:56,944 --> 00:23:59,764
from just a Lagrange point in space

556
00:23:59,764 --> 00:24:01,624
than it is to launch it from Earth.

557
00:24:02,164 --> 00:24:03,204
Oh, that's a cool idea.

558
00:24:03,404 --> 00:24:04,824
So that's true for anything kind of,

559
00:24:05,444 --> 00:24:07,344
you know, as you further out the solar system,

560
00:24:07,844 --> 00:24:09,444
once you kind of get to the asteroid belt

561
00:24:09,444 --> 00:24:10,304
and pushing beyond that,

562
00:24:10,304 --> 00:24:13,804
well, then like Jupiter's got its own gravity well.

563
00:24:14,184 --> 00:24:18,164
So it's, you know, multiple years to get there.

564
00:24:18,284 --> 00:24:19,684
So it's probably unlikely

565
00:24:19,684 --> 00:24:21,844
that it's going to benefit Earth that much.

566
00:24:21,924 --> 00:24:24,524
But I think it sort of intra-solar,

567
00:24:24,644 --> 00:24:26,164
I'm sure there'll be stuff we discover,

568
00:24:26,164 --> 00:24:28,944
scooping up some helium on

569
00:24:28,944 --> 00:24:31,024
Jupiter, getting some hydrocarbons

570
00:24:31,024 --> 00:24:33,004
on Titan, getting some water

571
00:24:33,004 --> 00:24:34,404
on series, and that

572
00:24:34,404 --> 00:24:35,924
benefit Earth too.

573
00:24:36,424 --> 00:24:38,584
We just need to start

574
00:24:38,584 --> 00:24:39,704
doing it.

575
00:24:40,424 --> 00:24:41,304
Good post.

576
00:24:42,064 --> 00:24:42,744
Thank you, Ted.

577
00:24:43,384 --> 00:24:44,964
Space Ted.

578
00:24:48,024 --> 00:24:49,104
Yeah, Ted will be

579
00:24:49,104 --> 00:24:50,444
at Startup Day, I should mention.

580
00:24:51,564 --> 00:24:53,104
He's the guy to talk to about space

581
00:24:53,104 --> 00:24:55,184
stuff, and he's also building an AI

582
00:24:55,184 --> 00:24:57,444
ask him questions about space

583
00:24:57,444 --> 00:24:59,644
cool the next

584
00:24:59,644 --> 00:25:01,584
top story is do we already

585
00:25:01,584 --> 00:25:03,344
have too much is from KR

586
00:25:03,344 --> 00:25:05,604
ask SN territory

587
00:25:05,604 --> 00:25:06,604
34 comments

588
00:25:06,604 --> 00:25:09,424
2,122 cents Keon what's this

589
00:25:09,424 --> 00:25:11,044
yeah KR is wondering

590
00:25:11,044 --> 00:25:12,664
are we

591
00:25:12,664 --> 00:25:15,484
are we overeating are we over

592
00:25:15,484 --> 00:25:17,564
consuming basically that was kind

593
00:25:17,564 --> 00:25:18,864
of the question are we

594
00:25:18,864 --> 00:25:20,424
have we generated

595
00:25:20,424 --> 00:25:23,484
so much abundance that we are like

596
00:25:23,484 --> 00:25:31,484
poisoning ourselves with our, our abundance by consuming more than we should be. Um, and yeah,

597
00:25:31,484 --> 00:25:41,104
so Sankers chime in and, and, uh, answer, um, he lists, it says primarily in terms of information

598
00:25:41,104 --> 00:25:47,524
is where, and food is where we seem to have, have abundance, like very clear abundance right now.

599
00:25:48,344 --> 00:25:53,044
Uh, like for instance, I, I am overweight because I'm over consuming. I have too much abundance of

600
00:25:53,044 --> 00:25:58,984
food. Um, and most of us have too much abundance of information. We're spending a lot of time on

601
00:25:58,984 --> 00:26:05,344
our devices and probably consuming way more stories and TV shows and stuff like that than we

602
00:26:05,344 --> 00:26:12,184
would, would have in the past. And that neither, neither being overweight or consuming too much,

603
00:26:12,184 --> 00:26:18,584
uh, media is probably good for you. So maybe we should produce less. Are we producing too much?

604
00:26:18,584 --> 00:26:19,444
That's what he's asking.

605
00:26:20,704 --> 00:26:21,104
Yeah.

606
00:26:21,204 --> 00:26:24,184
Scoresby had the top comments is at least at this stage of human development,

607
00:26:24,284 --> 00:26:25,564
hardship is not hard to come by.

608
00:26:25,784 --> 00:26:27,504
I haven't had hardship in my life,

609
00:26:27,564 --> 00:26:27,944
but I,

610
00:26:28,224 --> 00:26:31,864
the two or three serious hardships have resulted in growth and good things in

611
00:26:31,864 --> 00:26:32,344
my life.

612
00:26:32,844 --> 00:26:35,124
I don't think that overabundance is too much of an issue.

613
00:26:35,124 --> 00:26:35,384
Really.

614
00:26:35,464 --> 00:26:38,604
Most people will have challenges presented to them through the rough edges of

615
00:26:38,604 --> 00:26:38,964
life.

616
00:26:41,184 --> 00:26:44,224
Got one from Optimus said abundance of bad food is like abundance of toxic

617
00:26:44,224 --> 00:26:45,004
waste in your garden.

618
00:26:45,504 --> 00:26:47,624
Scaling by sacrificing quality is easy.

619
00:26:47,624 --> 00:26:52,184
challenges to scale without making that sacrifice in the face of insatiable greed.

620
00:26:52,304 --> 00:26:54,204
We don't have enough of the right stuff.

621
00:26:57,564 --> 00:27:00,584
Dahi said, I think we need a complete inversion of reasoning,

622
00:27:01,164 --> 00:27:06,084
similar to how I rub most entrepreneurs wrong way because I'm from a data as a liability cap

623
00:27:06,084 --> 00:27:08,844
rather than a data as a new oil or whatever the economists sold you.

624
00:27:10,364 --> 00:27:11,744
Any of these stick out to you, Keon?

625
00:27:12,724 --> 00:27:16,544
Yeah, I think most of them are saying that it's not so much that we have,

626
00:27:16,544 --> 00:27:24,104
that abundance is bad as much as like having things in abundance that we don't need or don't

627
00:27:24,104 --> 00:27:33,804
value. And instead we want abundance and things that we do maybe need and value highly. And so

628
00:27:33,804 --> 00:27:38,424
it's like, so you're producing abundance in the wrong areas and we kind of need to shift it over

629
00:27:38,424 --> 00:27:42,324
or rebalance into other areas. That's kind of what a lot of the comments end up saying.

630
00:27:42,324 --> 00:27:44,084
cool

631
00:27:44,084 --> 00:27:45,384
you got anything else on this

632
00:27:45,384 --> 00:27:46,304
no

633
00:27:46,304 --> 00:27:47,424
alright

634
00:27:47,424 --> 00:27:48,344
the next

635
00:27:48,344 --> 00:27:49,464
top

636
00:27:49,464 --> 00:27:50,904
story of the week

637
00:27:50,904 --> 00:27:51,644
was gold

638
00:27:51,644 --> 00:27:52,624
was used for persistent

639
00:27:52,624 --> 00:27:53,464
data storage

640
00:27:53,464 --> 00:27:53,984
too

641
00:27:53,984 --> 00:27:55,464
this is from

642
00:27:55,464 --> 00:27:56,104
SimpleStacker

643
00:27:56,104 --> 00:27:57,164
September 8th

644
00:27:57,164 --> 00:27:57,784
Bitcoin Territory

645
00:27:57,784 --> 00:27:58,564
32 comments

646
00:27:58,564 --> 00:27:59,764
11,700 cents

647
00:27:59,764 --> 00:28:00,324
Keon

648
00:28:00,324 --> 00:28:02,364
what's going on

649
00:28:02,364 --> 00:28:16,346
with gold yeah so this is kind of and similarly in the context of the Knotts core debate where much of it revolves around arbitrary data storage happening on Bitcoin

650
00:28:17,666 --> 00:28:31,846
But SimpleStacker, I guess, recalled that gold had been used at one point for data storage because it's easy to write in and will maintain its shape so long as it doesn't come in contact with a lot of heat.

651
00:28:31,846 --> 00:28:33,206
or pressure.

652
00:28:35,666 --> 00:28:37,266
Unlike, you know, unlike stone,

653
00:28:37,366 --> 00:28:38,846
it can, it will like erode.

654
00:28:38,986 --> 00:28:39,906
Like there are a lot of materials

655
00:28:39,906 --> 00:28:41,466
that don't hold their shape actually

656
00:28:41,466 --> 00:28:42,066
as well as gold,

657
00:28:42,106 --> 00:28:43,266
even though gold is quite soft.

658
00:28:44,046 --> 00:28:45,766
And so I guess in the past

659
00:28:45,766 --> 00:28:47,906
when important things were written,

660
00:28:47,986 --> 00:28:49,206
sometimes they were written in gold.

661
00:28:52,146 --> 00:28:54,506
And gold was also used as money.

662
00:28:54,866 --> 00:28:56,266
And so we were using

663
00:28:56,266 --> 00:29:00,346
that thing that was good for money

664
00:29:00,346 --> 00:29:02,566
turns out to also be good for data storage,

665
00:29:02,686 --> 00:29:05,886
kind of like, maybe not good for data storage,

666
00:29:05,986 --> 00:29:07,086
but suitable for data storage.

667
00:29:07,266 --> 00:29:07,966
I know where this is going.

668
00:29:08,046 --> 00:29:10,766
So it's kind of, so the, you know, so there might,

669
00:29:12,186 --> 00:29:15,506
there's reason to believe that when you have money emerge,

670
00:29:15,586 --> 00:29:19,966
it also becomes a, it becomes used for data storage.

671
00:29:20,046 --> 00:29:22,666
Maybe not, maybe not, maybe that's not good,

672
00:29:22,906 --> 00:29:25,306
but it seems to be somewhat of a pattern,

673
00:29:25,306 --> 00:29:29,126
at least where the money is suitable for data storage.

674
00:29:29,126 --> 00:29:39,566
And so we shouldn't, I guess I think the purpose of the post is like, maybe we shouldn't be surprised that we have this money that we all like using.

675
00:29:39,806 --> 00:29:42,846
And then there are other people who want to use the money for data storage.

676
00:29:42,846 --> 00:29:56,926
It's interesting too, because like even like the pharaohs and like all sorts of people at the top who had the vast majority of the gold used it for inscription type of.

677
00:29:56,926 --> 00:29:59,486
they were literally inscribing

678
00:29:59,486 --> 00:30:02,686
their own kind of

679
00:30:02,686 --> 00:30:04,586
degenerate type of

680
00:30:04,586 --> 00:30:06,746
I am a god type of

681
00:30:06,746 --> 00:30:07,606
behavior

682
00:30:07,606 --> 00:30:10,806
killing babies all sorts of demonic

683
00:30:10,806 --> 00:30:12,806
stuff I don't know if they inscribed that

684
00:30:12,806 --> 00:30:14,626
on gold but you know what I'm trying to say but like

685
00:30:14,626 --> 00:30:16,206
they were doing that sort of like

686
00:30:16,206 --> 00:30:18,506
kind of like demonic type of behavior

687
00:30:18,506 --> 00:30:20,746
and putting it attributing it

688
00:30:20,746 --> 00:30:21,566
attributing it to

689
00:30:21,566 --> 00:30:24,726
you know on the on what you're

690
00:30:24,726 --> 00:30:26,146
talking about inscribing it

691
00:30:26,146 --> 00:30:26,786
and stuff.

692
00:30:27,146 --> 00:30:27,466
And then,

693
00:30:27,606 --> 00:30:29,266
yeah.

694
00:30:30,906 --> 00:30:31,266
Interesting.

695
00:30:32,646 --> 00:30:33,006
Yeah,

696
00:30:33,026 --> 00:30:33,586
I don't know if like

697
00:30:33,586 --> 00:30:33,926
the demon,

698
00:30:34,066 --> 00:30:35,086
I don't know if it's demonic

699
00:30:35,086 --> 00:30:36,606
to describe and gold.

700
00:30:37,326 --> 00:30:37,806
I know they,

701
00:30:37,906 --> 00:30:39,186
I know they probably engaged.

702
00:30:39,206 --> 00:30:40,026
The Aztecs were doing that too.

703
00:30:40,126 --> 00:30:40,846
Like they were taking gold.

704
00:30:40,846 --> 00:30:41,346
I know they probably,

705
00:30:41,546 --> 00:30:41,866
I know you,

706
00:30:41,986 --> 00:30:42,266
yeah,

707
00:30:42,526 --> 00:30:43,166
I know,

708
00:30:43,306 --> 00:30:43,466
but.

709
00:30:43,746 --> 00:30:44,966
I didn't mean to be graphic,

710
00:30:45,086 --> 00:30:45,906
but you know what I'm trying to say.

711
00:30:45,966 --> 00:30:47,126
They're kind of independent things.

712
00:30:47,226 --> 00:30:47,506
I imagine.

713
00:30:47,526 --> 00:30:49,106
I'm not saying this is the same thing

714
00:30:49,106 --> 00:30:49,686
that's going on,

715
00:30:49,766 --> 00:30:50,066
obviously,

716
00:30:50,186 --> 00:30:51,166
but I think you know

717
00:30:51,166 --> 00:30:51,906
what I'm trying to say.

718
00:30:52,086 --> 00:30:52,446
Obviously,

719
00:30:52,446 --> 00:30:53,966
I'm being a little bit more hyperbolic

720
00:30:53,966 --> 00:30:54,686
for the podcast.

721
00:30:54,906 --> 00:30:55,086
Yeah.

722
00:30:55,186 --> 00:30:55,386
But,

723
00:30:55,386 --> 00:31:04,126
But obviously, what I'm trying to say is that type of behavior also happened on gold in the beginning as well, too.

724
00:31:04,366 --> 00:31:09,646
And then it led to a reckoning of a sort, you could say.

725
00:31:11,266 --> 00:31:16,646
Yeah, I don't know if the reckoning was from them inscribing on gold, but I think it's...

726
00:31:17,426 --> 00:31:18,666
I don't know.

727
00:31:18,666 --> 00:31:29,826
I mean, because if you look at history, like there was a reckoning at a certain point because after a while, the poors and the people that were the slaves kind of got tired of them doing that.

728
00:31:30,006 --> 00:31:31,666
And they came for their heads.

729
00:31:32,266 --> 00:31:34,826
Yeah, but I don't think it has anything to do with the inscribing on the gold.

730
00:31:35,026 --> 00:31:37,186
Well, I mean, that's just kind of the spinning on the face, right?

731
00:31:38,506 --> 00:31:39,166
I see.

732
00:31:39,346 --> 00:31:40,606
You see this as like a side effect.

733
00:31:40,606 --> 00:31:42,806
Well, I mean, you saw the—

734
00:31:42,806 --> 00:31:43,846
Did you see Apocalypto?

735
00:31:43,966 --> 00:31:45,246
I mean, you kind of saw the—

736
00:31:45,246 --> 00:31:46,646
I did see that a long time ago.

737
00:31:46,646 --> 00:31:48,266
I mean, it's that kind of thing.

738
00:31:48,266 --> 00:31:49,686
Like it's, it's just hilarious.

739
00:31:49,806 --> 00:31:55,986
I never thought of it that way, but, uh, interesting posts though, how they correlated the two things.

740
00:31:56,426 --> 00:31:56,906
Yeah.

741
00:31:57,246 --> 00:31:57,686
Interesting.

742
00:31:57,906 --> 00:32:00,606
These are called Apadana, Apadana.

743
00:32:00,846 --> 00:32:04,326
It's an Apadana horde is a specific picture he shows here.

744
00:32:04,886 --> 00:32:05,326
Fascinating.

745
00:32:05,506 --> 00:32:06,646
It had this inscription on it.

746
00:32:06,646 --> 00:32:07,306
I thought about that.

747
00:32:07,386 --> 00:32:08,306
Three different languages.

748
00:32:08,586 --> 00:32:10,246
Sometimes things just take care of themselves.

749
00:32:10,246 --> 00:32:17,946
That's why I'm always just like, you know, uh, I think I,

750
00:32:18,266 --> 00:32:19,146
I think I get it.

751
00:32:20,186 --> 00:32:20,586
Interesting.

752
00:32:21,146 --> 00:32:22,206
Yeah, ancient Persia.

753
00:32:22,286 --> 00:32:24,366
I guess they used it to store a bunch of coins in it,

754
00:32:24,426 --> 00:32:27,626
I think from across a few generations

755
00:32:27,626 --> 00:32:30,426
and a few different mintings of coins were inside.

756
00:32:31,246 --> 00:32:34,146
I think it was meant as sort of a time capsule,

757
00:32:34,286 --> 00:32:35,426
which it ended up serving as.

758
00:32:35,686 --> 00:32:39,126
And it's very legible relative to most of the rocks that I've seen,

759
00:32:39,366 --> 00:32:41,006
the stones that I've seen that are inscribed.

760
00:32:41,806 --> 00:32:43,626
This seems highly readable.

761
00:32:44,026 --> 00:32:48,246
Yeah, I think eventually other people eventually stole their gold.

762
00:32:48,266 --> 00:32:56,106
eventually and they they took it for themselves so um yeah this is great yeah it's great stuff

763
00:32:56,106 --> 00:33:01,466
simple stacker yeah what did the uh what did the top comments say kevart said how refreshing is

764
00:33:01,466 --> 00:33:07,546
the post related to the debate that isn't completely stupid um zero xb corner go to

765
00:33:07,546 --> 00:33:13,506
be melted down and reuse persistent data not so much oh that's a good point i mean it persisted

766
00:33:13,506 --> 00:33:18,306
from, I think it was like 500 BC to now.

767
00:33:18,466 --> 00:33:20,306
And we had that clear picture of it there.

768
00:33:20,506 --> 00:33:21,766
So it seemed to persist.

769
00:33:21,966 --> 00:33:23,726
I get that it can be reused and melted.

770
00:33:24,026 --> 00:33:25,766
I guess in a sense, Bitcoin,

771
00:33:25,986 --> 00:33:27,406
even if it did have that attached,

772
00:33:27,466 --> 00:33:28,406
you can still spend it.

773
00:33:28,646 --> 00:33:30,846
So it's kind of the same thing.

774
00:33:31,446 --> 00:33:31,686
Yeah.

775
00:33:32,226 --> 00:33:33,846
Yeah, most of it is.

776
00:33:34,166 --> 00:33:36,186
There'll be another post I think we discussed this week

777
00:33:36,186 --> 00:33:38,826
where they are consolidating a lot of that dust

778
00:33:38,826 --> 00:33:40,866
that a lot of those protocols generated.

779
00:33:41,826 --> 00:33:42,986
Cool. Great post.

780
00:33:43,506 --> 00:33:44,186
That's a thinker.

781
00:33:45,006 --> 00:33:48,406
The number one top story of the week is Merch and Chris have a conversation.

782
00:33:49,006 --> 00:33:49,746
What is going on here?

783
00:33:49,826 --> 00:33:51,026
Question mark, question mark, question mark.

784
00:33:51,486 --> 00:33:55,406
This is from 02855, 51 comments, 382 sats.

785
00:33:55,946 --> 00:33:56,766
Key on.

786
00:33:57,426 --> 00:33:58,086
Is there a debate?

787
00:33:59,046 --> 00:34:03,326
Yeah, I guess Merch and Chris got into a really long Twitter thread, apparently.

788
00:34:03,546 --> 00:34:04,346
I haven't read the whole thing.

789
00:34:04,346 --> 00:34:05,306
Weed and Merch.

790
00:34:05,526 --> 00:34:06,086
Oh, interesting.

791
00:34:06,286 --> 00:34:07,346
What are they talking about?

792
00:34:07,566 --> 00:34:10,006
They're talking about basically knots versus core.

793
00:34:10,846 --> 00:34:11,926
Who's on the knots side?

794
00:34:11,986 --> 00:34:12,626
Who's on the core side?

795
00:34:12,626 --> 00:34:14,406
So Chris Guida is on the not side.

796
00:34:14,546 --> 00:34:17,126
He's a huge pro nots proponent.

797
00:34:17,366 --> 00:34:20,186
He spends a lot of time on X debating people about it.

798
00:34:20,506 --> 00:34:23,286
And Merch is on the other side defending Coors.

799
00:34:23,846 --> 00:34:30,326
He's one of the bigger defendants of Coors' position on relaxing the off return limits.

800
00:34:31,106 --> 00:34:32,526
And they get into it, I think.

801
00:34:33,326 --> 00:34:38,326
It seems pretty productive for anyone who could find it and read through it.

802
00:34:38,326 --> 00:34:41,026
they seem to

803
00:34:41,026 --> 00:34:44,466
be treating each other with respect

804
00:34:44,466 --> 00:34:46,126
through most of it.

805
00:34:46,586 --> 00:34:47,806
Chris says some things like

806
00:34:47,806 --> 00:34:50,166
he thinks that the economic demand

807
00:34:50,166 --> 00:34:52,726
for Bitcoin as data storage

808
00:34:52,726 --> 00:34:55,406
is a thousand times greater

809
00:34:55,406 --> 00:34:56,866
than any monetary demand.

810
00:34:57,126 --> 00:34:58,706
And that will be maintained

811
00:34:58,706 --> 00:34:59,546
into the future.

812
00:35:01,266 --> 00:35:02,986
And so he thinks it'll price out

813
00:35:02,986 --> 00:35:05,106
basically he thinks it'll price out

814
00:35:05,106 --> 00:35:06,246
monetary uses.

815
00:35:06,246 --> 00:35:17,746
And then the other side of that is, well, if there's a thousand X times more demand for arbitrary data storage on Bitcoin than there is monetary uses, then what good are filters going to do?

816
00:35:17,826 --> 00:35:31,066
Aren't they going to try like, isn't a thousand times more enough economic incentive to create routes to miners, which they have done to get these things into blocks?

817
00:35:31,066 --> 00:35:59,126
And so there's a lot of discussions here that kind of get into the details of the debate, like some of the consolidation we're seeing of some of these BRC20 tokens, which are like an offshoot of inscriptions that try to create some kind of token system that mints tokens using...

818
00:36:01,066 --> 00:36:07,506
Using unspent transaction outputs, you have a bunch of UTXOs that are unspendable.

819
00:36:07,606 --> 00:36:09,146
We can't tell that they're unspendable.

820
00:36:13,226 --> 00:36:21,686
And, yeah, that's kind of, they just kind of get into the weeds a little bit for people who are following it.

821
00:36:21,686 --> 00:36:30,966
It is hard to have this debate and, I think, discuss it and make any progress on it.

822
00:36:30,966 --> 00:36:33,666
because it is so ideological and theoretical,

823
00:36:33,666 --> 00:36:40,706
even though we have pretty good data on what the effects of both filters and inscriptions are on chain.

824
00:36:41,266 --> 00:36:41,426
Yeah.

825
00:36:43,446 --> 00:36:43,966
Cool.

826
00:36:44,166 --> 00:36:46,826
Looks like the top comment was from Merch.

827
00:36:46,926 --> 00:36:47,426
He came in.

828
00:36:48,146 --> 00:36:53,406
He said the special thing in quotes about runes is that they do exactly what BRC20 was doing,

829
00:36:54,086 --> 00:36:58,206
defining minty and transfer tokens, but it does so in op return outputs,

830
00:36:58,426 --> 00:37:00,786
which do not get added to the ETXO set.

831
00:37:00,966 --> 00:37:02,586
in a block space efficient manner.

832
00:37:03,206 --> 00:37:04,986
So it's simply better in all dimensions

833
00:37:04,986 --> 00:37:08,386
than a BRC20 tokens at what BRC20 tokens supposedly do

834
00:37:08,386 --> 00:37:10,446
without resulting in an incentive

835
00:37:10,446 --> 00:37:12,986
to create minuscule abandoned outputs.

836
00:37:13,326 --> 00:37:15,886
And it was created by the eventer of Ordnose,

837
00:37:16,166 --> 00:37:17,946
which probably makes it even more blessed

838
00:37:17,946 --> 00:37:18,786
in some circles.

839
00:37:19,606 --> 00:37:20,026
Shrug.

840
00:37:21,366 --> 00:37:22,146
What do you think about that, Kion?

841
00:37:22,486 --> 00:37:25,766
Yeah, I think that is a proper analysis.

842
00:37:25,766 --> 00:37:29,766
Ruins was created by KC Rohat armor to...

843
00:37:29,928 --> 00:37:38,188
I don't know, supersede BRC20 so that we didn't have this UTXO set bloat caused by people degening on Bitcoin.

844
00:37:39,568 --> 00:37:45,408
And that, I think, intentionally uses Opratern because it's prunable.

845
00:37:45,408 --> 00:37:47,248
and

846
00:37:47,248 --> 00:37:47,988
yeah

847
00:37:47,988 --> 00:37:49,908
that's a sign

848
00:37:49,908 --> 00:37:50,148
that

849
00:37:50,148 --> 00:37:50,808
like

850
00:37:50,808 --> 00:37:51,768
uses of

851
00:37:51,768 --> 00:37:52,208
op return

852
00:37:52,208 --> 00:37:53,728
has

853
00:37:53,728 --> 00:37:56,028
better effects

854
00:37:56,028 --> 00:37:57,108
for the network

855
00:37:57,108 --> 00:37:57,588
than

856
00:37:57,588 --> 00:37:58,948
not

857
00:37:58,948 --> 00:38:00,008
not using

858
00:38:00,008 --> 00:38:01,888
op return

859
00:38:01,888 --> 00:38:02,848
all else being equal

860
00:38:02,848 --> 00:38:03,768
we had

861
00:38:03,768 --> 00:38:04,408
simple stacker

862
00:38:04,408 --> 00:38:04,908
come in says

863
00:38:04,908 --> 00:38:05,808
this is a good conversation

864
00:38:05,808 --> 00:38:06,368
my views

865
00:38:06,368 --> 00:38:07,048
that demand

866
00:38:07,048 --> 00:38:07,688
for transactions

867
00:38:07,688 --> 00:38:08,348
will surpass

868
00:38:08,348 --> 00:38:09,708
demand for arbitrary

869
00:38:09,708 --> 00:38:10,748
data if adoption

870
00:38:10,748 --> 00:38:11,208
of bitcoin

871
00:38:11,208 --> 00:38:11,848
as a

872
00:38:11,848 --> 00:38:13,928
medium exchange

873
00:38:13,928 --> 00:38:14,768
medium exchange

874
00:38:14,768 --> 00:38:15,208
increases

875
00:38:15,208 --> 00:38:19,568
if no one uses it for a medium exchange and it stays a store value,

876
00:38:19,568 --> 00:38:22,548
then there will be little demand for monetary transactions.

877
00:38:23,208 --> 00:38:25,888
Most of the demand for block space will come from people's store data.

878
00:38:26,508 --> 00:38:28,568
The way I see it, storing data isn't the problem.

879
00:38:28,868 --> 00:38:30,528
The blocks are all the same size anyway.

880
00:38:31,028 --> 00:38:35,268
The problem is bloating the UTCSO set and making a node more costly to run.

881
00:38:35,928 --> 00:38:40,208
The point about how the government can also make sure an attack is an interesting one.

882
00:38:40,288 --> 00:38:44,128
I don't know enough about the technical details behind Bitcoin,

883
00:38:44,128 --> 00:38:51,588
But if there could be a way to prune the UTXO set, even if the outputs are not prunably unspendable, that could be a technical solution to this debate.

884
00:38:52,468 --> 00:38:53,088
What do you think about that?

885
00:38:54,048 --> 00:38:57,588
Yeah, I think you raise those interesting points from the discussion.

886
00:38:57,588 --> 00:39:07,668
I think there are proposals for how to make the UTXO set more manageable, even at large size, like Utrexo.

887
00:39:07,668 --> 00:39:13,288
and I know also LibBitcoin with Vosco,

888
00:39:13,548 --> 00:39:17,248
they don't even have an independent UTXO set.

889
00:39:17,388 --> 00:39:20,348
They pretty much index the entire transaction history

890
00:39:20,348 --> 00:39:22,268
of the entire chain and make it accessible

891
00:39:22,268 --> 00:39:25,188
in a way that you can still validate blocks easily.

892
00:39:26,908 --> 00:39:31,048
It's time to download Blue Wallet and boom, baby.

893
00:39:31,448 --> 00:39:32,208
Let's go back.

894
00:39:32,468 --> 00:39:33,948
Let's go back on chain, boys.

895
00:39:33,948 --> 00:39:40,628
Let's make a stacker news with one confirmation.

896
00:39:42,368 --> 00:39:43,848
Yeah, 20 minutes out.

897
00:39:44,388 --> 00:39:45,468
20 minutes out.

898
00:39:45,468 --> 00:39:46,208
You got to wait 20 minutes.

899
00:39:46,208 --> 00:39:53,628
I mean, to be honest, dude, I mean, I'm, yeah, I downloaded Blue Wallet.

900
00:39:54,708 --> 00:39:55,808
I'm ready there, man.

901
00:39:55,988 --> 00:39:56,948
You're ready to go back.

902
00:39:56,948 --> 00:39:58,008
I'm using Moon.

903
00:39:58,108 --> 00:39:58,768
I'm using Moon.

904
00:39:58,888 --> 00:39:59,668
I'm using Blue Wallet.

905
00:39:59,668 --> 00:40:00,008
You're going to tell the travel.

906
00:40:00,368 --> 00:40:00,528
Yeah.

907
00:40:00,948 --> 00:40:02,908
I'm sending it on chain now for my phone.

908
00:40:02,908 --> 00:40:04,648
you're like Doc Holliday

909
00:40:04,648 --> 00:40:06,248
I mean I think

910
00:40:06,248 --> 00:40:07,008
I think there's something

911
00:40:07,008 --> 00:40:07,728
to be said about that

912
00:40:07,728 --> 00:40:08,508
I don't think SuperStacker

913
00:40:08,508 --> 00:40:09,108
is wrong

914
00:40:09,108 --> 00:40:09,768
by saying

915
00:40:09,768 --> 00:40:10,988
we want it to be

916
00:40:10,988 --> 00:40:11,868
if we want

917
00:40:11,868 --> 00:40:12,528
the chain

918
00:40:12,528 --> 00:40:13,648
we want on chain back

919
00:40:13,648 --> 00:40:14,328
then we gotta start

920
00:40:14,328 --> 00:40:15,008
using it again

921
00:40:15,008 --> 00:40:16,828
and I like lightning

922
00:40:16,828 --> 00:40:18,728
I'm gonna keep using lightning

923
00:40:18,728 --> 00:40:19,888
but

924
00:40:19,888 --> 00:40:22,648
I think I'm gonna start

925
00:40:22,648 --> 00:40:23,528
I think I'm gonna start

926
00:40:23,528 --> 00:40:24,828
sending more on chain

927
00:40:24,828 --> 00:40:26,948
transactions

928
00:40:26,948 --> 00:40:27,888
yeah Moon should be

929
00:40:27,888 --> 00:40:28,748
booming right now

930
00:40:28,748 --> 00:40:29,448
there's like nothing

931
00:40:29,448 --> 00:40:30,128
on

932
00:40:30,128 --> 00:40:31,688
blocks are empty

933
00:40:31,688 --> 00:40:32,708
we have like

934
00:40:32,708 --> 00:40:34,728
sub, one sat per

935
00:40:34,728 --> 00:40:36,608
VB. Time to start using Moon. Time to start

936
00:40:36,608 --> 00:40:38,748
using Blue Wallet. Let's go, boys.

937
00:40:39,648 --> 00:40:40,288
Let's do it.

938
00:40:41,688 --> 00:40:42,648
Sackers, if you're listening

939
00:40:42,648 --> 00:40:44,728
to this, send at least one

940
00:40:44,728 --> 00:40:46,248
on-chain every day.

941
00:40:47,508 --> 00:40:48,428
Show them what you're right at.

942
00:40:48,428 --> 00:40:50,448
It starts with you. I'm serious.

943
00:40:51,368 --> 00:40:52,568
For every Lightning transaction

944
00:40:52,568 --> 00:40:54,468
you send, send an on-chain

945
00:40:54,468 --> 00:40:56,068
transaction. Let's tip

946
00:40:56,068 --> 00:40:58,428
your bartenders, your baristas

947
00:40:58,428 --> 00:41:00,288
$5 on-chain.

948
00:41:01,168 --> 00:41:02,188
Just download Blue Wallet.

949
00:41:02,188 --> 00:41:04,108
Do your baristas have on-chain wallets?

950
00:41:04,348 --> 00:41:06,388
It's easy enough to download Blue Wallet and send it to them.

951
00:41:07,188 --> 00:41:11,188
I don't think they would do it if I asked them, like, hey, do you want to, can you download this app?

952
00:41:11,268 --> 00:41:13,788
I mean, because, like, I mean, what else are we going to do?

953
00:41:15,448 --> 00:41:17,948
I mean, it's either that or, I mean.

954
00:41:18,528 --> 00:41:19,028
I think.

955
00:41:19,208 --> 00:41:20,648
You got to vote with your money.

956
00:41:22,208 --> 00:41:25,148
So, other than encouraging people to do more on-chain transactions.

957
00:41:25,168 --> 00:41:26,088
More on-chain transactions.

958
00:41:26,088 --> 00:41:27,508
That they don't need to do, I think it would.

959
00:41:27,508 --> 00:41:28,268
Go back, boys.

960
00:41:28,408 --> 00:41:30,248
It would just be having more people use Bitcoin.

961
00:41:30,248 --> 00:41:30,648
Yeah.

962
00:41:31,528 --> 00:41:32,408
I got Blue Wallet.

963
00:41:32,428 --> 00:41:34,308
It's kind of a related problem, actually.

964
00:41:34,408 --> 00:41:38,168
Because, again, the barista is not going to download a wallet.

965
00:41:38,728 --> 00:41:40,408
They don't give a crap about Bitcoin.

966
00:41:40,408 --> 00:41:41,128
There's my moon.

967
00:41:41,868 --> 00:41:42,888
Got a password on it.

968
00:41:44,228 --> 00:41:44,868
There's my Blue Wallet.

969
00:41:44,908 --> 00:41:45,748
I downloaded Blue Wallet.

970
00:41:45,788 --> 00:41:46,888
Yeah, I downloaded Blue Wallet.

971
00:41:46,988 --> 00:41:47,108
Look.

972
00:41:48,368 --> 00:41:49,088
See if it loads.

973
00:41:49,308 --> 00:41:49,488
Boom.

974
00:41:49,928 --> 00:41:50,228
Boom.

975
00:41:50,908 --> 00:41:51,568
Blue Wallet.

976
00:41:51,688 --> 00:41:52,808
People love Blue Wallet.

977
00:41:53,388 --> 00:41:54,468
It's time to go back, boys.

978
00:41:55,248 --> 00:41:56,508
I even called it Lightning.

979
00:41:57,868 --> 00:42:00,128
So I technologically think I'm using Lightning.

980
00:42:00,128 --> 00:42:02,448
but I'm not. Wait, you've tricked yourself.

981
00:42:02,668 --> 00:42:03,408
I've tricked myself.

982
00:42:04,008 --> 00:42:06,228
I call my on-chain wallet lightning.

983
00:42:06,368 --> 00:42:08,528
You did like a Vulcan mind meld with yourself.

984
00:42:08,528 --> 00:42:09,288
It's on-chain.

985
00:42:09,548 --> 00:42:12,308
I called it lightning.

986
00:42:12,688 --> 00:42:13,488
My on-chain wallet.

987
00:42:18,928 --> 00:42:19,768
There you go.

988
00:42:23,208 --> 00:42:24,348
Everybody's like, I don't agree

989
00:42:24,348 --> 00:42:25,928
with that. We gotta

990
00:42:25,928 --> 00:42:27,968
not use on-chain.

991
00:42:29,048 --> 00:42:29,488
Anyways.

992
00:42:29,488 --> 00:42:31,868
So Nick disagreed with Carr

993
00:42:31,868 --> 00:42:34,128
and then Carr behaved on screen

994
00:42:34,128 --> 00:42:35,108
like Nick agreed with him.

995
00:42:35,368 --> 00:42:36,648
Just in case anyone missed it.

996
00:42:36,768 --> 00:42:38,408
We got to start with ourselves.

997
00:42:38,928 --> 00:42:39,748
One on chain a week.

998
00:42:39,828 --> 00:42:40,248
Let's go.

999
00:42:41,088 --> 00:42:41,748
Let's make it happen.

1000
00:42:42,048 --> 00:42:43,048
One on chain a week.

1001
00:42:44,168 --> 00:42:46,248
Let's start dialing Blue Wallet.

1002
00:42:47,068 --> 00:42:48,828
Let's make this happen.

1003
00:42:49,628 --> 00:42:50,848
Let's get the on chain back.

1004
00:42:50,888 --> 00:42:51,428
The only is what?

1005
00:42:52,848 --> 00:42:53,588
Oh, okay.

1006
00:42:54,708 --> 00:42:55,968
He's like, I'm only using Tether.

1007
00:42:56,208 --> 00:42:57,588
Tether's an L3 Maxie.

1008
00:42:57,588 --> 00:42:59,768
He's like, I'm only using tether now.

1009
00:42:59,888 --> 00:43:02,008
He's waiting for Karthashiv level three.

1010
00:43:02,708 --> 00:43:03,908
He's like, I'm only using tether.

1011
00:43:04,268 --> 00:43:08,088
So is Spark, you know, is that what Tristopheal is?

1012
00:43:08,628 --> 00:43:09,188
I don't know.

1013
00:43:09,868 --> 00:43:10,708
No comment.

1014
00:43:12,008 --> 00:43:12,528
What was I going to say?

1015
00:43:12,728 --> 00:43:14,408
Tristopheal might actually be level three.

1016
00:43:14,508 --> 00:43:14,928
All right, Staggers.

1017
00:43:14,928 --> 00:43:15,768
Because you have a unilateral exit.

1018
00:43:15,768 --> 00:43:20,068
Staggers, if you're watching this, send on chains.

1019
00:43:20,268 --> 00:43:20,648
Let's go.

1020
00:43:20,728 --> 00:43:21,088
Let's see.

1021
00:43:21,608 --> 00:43:22,248
Starts with you.

1022
00:43:22,328 --> 00:43:23,188
Yeah, I want to see them.

1023
00:43:23,348 --> 00:43:24,548
I want to see spikes.

1024
00:43:24,648 --> 00:43:25,148
Let's do it.

1025
00:43:25,468 --> 00:43:26,888
I mean, let's see what happens.

1026
00:43:27,228 --> 00:43:27,408
Yeah.

1027
00:43:27,408 --> 00:43:29,068
Let's use the full force of Stacker News.

1028
00:43:29,348 --> 00:43:32,328
Let's get your sister Katie to warm up that.

1029
00:43:32,348 --> 00:43:32,848
Let's do it.

1030
00:43:32,868 --> 00:43:34,248
Let's warm up that Blue Wallet.

1031
00:43:36,188 --> 00:43:39,348
It's just you see Blue Wallet just shoot up in the app store.

1032
00:43:39,468 --> 00:43:40,708
It's like, what is going on?

1033
00:43:40,708 --> 00:43:44,388
Did Taylor Swift, did all the Swifties download Blue Wallet?

1034
00:43:44,428 --> 00:43:45,428
Because she tweeted it out.

1035
00:43:46,248 --> 00:43:47,128
That'd be hilarious.

1036
00:43:47,368 --> 00:43:49,268
Wait, we're going to get Taylor Swift to tweet this?

1037
00:43:49,268 --> 00:43:53,008
Hey, man, if we get Kelsey, if we get Travis Kelsey to download Blue Wallet first,

1038
00:43:53,188 --> 00:43:54,148
sends it on to a transaction.

1039
00:43:54,988 --> 00:43:55,508
He might be.

1040
00:43:56,608 --> 00:43:57,268
He might be.

1041
00:43:57,268 --> 00:44:00,508
Somebody send the tweet to Travis Kelsey, get him download the Blue Wallet.

1042
00:44:00,508 --> 00:44:00,988
I feel like.

1043
00:44:01,068 --> 00:44:03,008
And then we'll get all the Swifties to download the Blue Wallet.

1044
00:44:03,068 --> 00:44:04,308
We'll take America back that way.

1045
00:44:04,648 --> 00:44:06,628
I feel like being with Taylor Swift is a full-time job.

1046
00:44:06,688 --> 00:44:08,548
I feel like you don't have time to even study Bitcoin.

1047
00:44:08,728 --> 00:44:09,128
I think so.

1048
00:44:09,588 --> 00:44:11,828
Yeah, I feel like you're just kind of like overwhelmed.

1049
00:44:13,008 --> 00:44:13,708
I don't know.

1050
00:44:13,768 --> 00:44:15,848
I feel like she's a pretty independent woman, dude.

1051
00:44:15,948 --> 00:44:18,028
I feel like you wouldn't even have to check in with her.

1052
00:44:18,128 --> 00:44:18,628
I don't know.

1053
00:44:18,788 --> 00:44:20,388
Usually people are like independent.

1054
00:44:20,928 --> 00:44:22,948
Have you ever dated an independent woman before?

1055
00:44:22,948 --> 00:44:23,848
All the people that.

1056
00:44:23,888 --> 00:44:25,128
Have you dated an independent woman before?

1057
00:44:25,128 --> 00:44:31,268
um i think so have you though i think so where did you date an independent woman

1058
00:44:31,268 --> 00:44:37,108
uh i think my wife is a pretty independent woman okay so will you check in with her all the time

1059
00:44:37,108 --> 00:44:43,488
do i what do you check in with her all the time like not all the time no okay so you're saying

1060
00:44:43,488 --> 00:44:47,808
you don't like you're saying like she's like my wife is not taylor swift because taylor swift

1061
00:44:47,808 --> 00:44:54,028
has like taylor swift is like there's almost like a world figure she she is a world figure she's like

1062
00:44:54,028 --> 00:44:55,848
she's basically like Putin

1063
00:44:55,848 --> 00:44:56,688
you know

1064
00:44:56,688 --> 00:44:59,988
Putin that can sing and dance

1065
00:44:59,988 --> 00:45:03,408
and has a few platinum records

1066
00:45:03,408 --> 00:45:05,788
so like a big important person like that

1067
00:45:05,788 --> 00:45:07,748
like being a partner to someone like that

1068
00:45:07,748 --> 00:45:09,148
is probably exhausting

1069
00:45:09,148 --> 00:45:11,088
even if they're quote unquote

1070
00:45:11,088 --> 00:45:13,348
I feel like you're digging yourself into a hole right now

1071
00:45:13,348 --> 00:45:14,448
I don't think I am

1072
00:45:14,448 --> 00:45:16,588
come at me

1073
00:45:16,588 --> 00:45:19,068
a female Putin

1074
00:45:19,068 --> 00:45:21,848
alright we're gonna move on

1075
00:45:21,848 --> 00:45:23,808
and yeah

1076
00:45:24,288 --> 00:45:24,848
Let's get on.

1077
00:45:24,948 --> 00:45:26,028
Let's get on with the show.

1078
00:45:26,908 --> 00:45:27,388
Yeah.

1079
00:45:27,548 --> 00:45:30,708
So let's jump into AI Bitcoin this week.

1080
00:45:31,088 --> 00:45:33,668
So this week we had Optimism posted.

1081
00:45:33,948 --> 00:45:36,688
This week in AI, September 1st through the 7th.

1082
00:45:37,128 --> 00:45:39,308
There's a lot of talk about everything here.

1083
00:45:39,848 --> 00:45:40,468
I don't know if you saw.

1084
00:45:40,528 --> 00:45:41,788
He talked more about jobs.

1085
00:45:42,368 --> 00:45:44,528
But my favorite two posts here.

1086
00:45:44,888 --> 00:45:46,228
Let me show you how long this was.

1087
00:45:46,768 --> 00:45:46,888
Yeah.

1088
00:45:46,888 --> 00:45:47,668
Do you look at this?

1089
00:45:48,108 --> 00:45:49,208
I do look at it.

1090
00:45:49,208 --> 00:45:52,428
I didn't even read more than a handful of these.

1091
00:45:52,608 --> 00:45:53,428
It's really good.

1092
00:45:53,428 --> 00:45:54,788
I picked out two of them.

1093
00:45:55,228 --> 00:45:57,228
The first one I wanted to bring up was this one.

1094
00:45:57,328 --> 00:46:00,148
Is college university still worth it in the era of AI?

1095
00:46:01,368 --> 00:46:02,308
This is from StackHard.

1096
00:46:02,388 --> 00:46:05,008
I said, sure, maybe for things like medicine and some other professions.

1097
00:46:05,148 --> 00:46:07,048
But other than that, in this day and age,

1098
00:46:07,088 --> 00:46:10,548
with all the ways to learn and white-collar workers under threat from AI,

1099
00:46:11,048 --> 00:46:12,968
is the juice really worth the squeeze for most?

1100
00:46:13,788 --> 00:46:16,048
He says he doesn't think it's worth going to college.

1101
00:46:16,608 --> 00:46:18,908
Keon, I ask you, what do you think?

1102
00:46:18,908 --> 00:46:21,948
I mean, if you're going to college, I guess, to make money,

1103
00:46:21,948 --> 00:46:23,148
that would

1104
00:46:23,148 --> 00:46:26,068
I think change things. If you're going to college

1105
00:46:26,068 --> 00:46:26,848
to like

1106
00:46:26,848 --> 00:46:29,728
because you think it's a great way for you to

1107
00:46:29,728 --> 00:46:31,448
learn more and

1108
00:46:31,448 --> 00:46:33,588
be better as like a person

1109
00:46:33,588 --> 00:46:35,728
or at the things that you want to do in life

1110
00:46:35,728 --> 00:46:37,948
that maybe aren't directly tied

1111
00:46:37,948 --> 00:46:39,828
to making money but usually do result

1112
00:46:39,828 --> 00:46:41,708
in you making money then I would say you go to

1113
00:46:41,708 --> 00:46:43,548
you can go to college because you have

1114
00:46:43,548 --> 00:46:45,948
structured in there, they have built

1115
00:46:45,948 --> 00:46:57,984
in mentors you have built in peers you have kind of a path to go to achieve excellence it kind of really nice It a very convenient way to learn something That one of my biggest criticisms about people who are like

1116
00:46:58,404 --> 00:47:03,524
college is retarded. I can just, everything's online. It's like, have you tried to get a

1117
00:47:03,524 --> 00:47:08,304
four-year university education online? It's very hard. Some people can do it.

1118
00:47:08,744 --> 00:47:10,684
Yeah, some people aren't that self-motivated either.

1119
00:47:10,864 --> 00:47:15,304
Some people need more structure. I think we talked about a great post on education

1120
00:47:15,304 --> 00:47:18,644
a few weeks ago, maybe a month or two ago,

1121
00:47:18,844 --> 00:47:22,784
where you can broadly put most learners in three categories

1122
00:47:22,784 --> 00:47:24,744
where some of them don't need much structure,

1123
00:47:24,864 --> 00:47:27,204
some of them benefit from structure but don't need it,

1124
00:47:27,244 --> 00:47:28,724
and then other ones who need a lot of structure.

1125
00:47:29,644 --> 00:47:32,504
And so the people who don't need any structure at all,

1126
00:47:32,564 --> 00:47:34,604
those are like 5% to 10% of the population.

1127
00:47:35,264 --> 00:47:36,884
It's a very small percentage of people.

1128
00:47:36,884 --> 00:47:42,704
So I think depending on what you're studying,

1129
00:47:42,844 --> 00:47:44,924
depending on who you are, depending on the context and stuff,

1130
00:47:44,924 --> 00:47:46,104
I think it's still worth it.

1131
00:47:46,164 --> 00:47:48,004
I think it's still worth it.

1132
00:47:48,004 --> 00:47:49,444
I think if you're going after like a regular job,

1133
00:47:49,564 --> 00:47:50,464
like nursing or,

1134
00:47:50,464 --> 00:47:51,744
you know,

1135
00:47:51,744 --> 00:47:52,604
anything like that,

1136
00:47:52,844 --> 00:47:54,304
I think it's definitely still worth it.

1137
00:47:54,944 --> 00:47:55,304
Dentistry.

1138
00:47:56,084 --> 00:47:57,244
So you're going to be a programmer.

1139
00:47:57,344 --> 00:47:58,084
Would you go to college?

1140
00:47:58,764 --> 00:47:59,124
Um,

1141
00:47:59,604 --> 00:48:00,104
I don't know.

1142
00:48:00,144 --> 00:48:00,864
I'm not a programmer,

1143
00:48:01,004 --> 00:48:01,404
so I don't know.

1144
00:48:01,444 --> 00:48:02,004
What do you think?

1145
00:48:02,664 --> 00:48:03,444
You're a programmer.

1146
00:48:03,564 --> 00:48:04,504
I would still go to college.

1147
00:48:04,764 --> 00:48:05,024
Okay.

1148
00:48:05,384 --> 00:48:05,624
Yeah.

1149
00:48:06,524 --> 00:48:06,884
Um,

1150
00:48:06,904 --> 00:48:07,644
I think if you're,

1151
00:48:07,844 --> 00:48:10,984
I think if you're going to do like IT stuff or like anything in like

1152
00:48:10,984 --> 00:48:13,044
systems administration or like computer stuff,

1153
00:48:13,044 --> 00:48:13,384
I would,

1154
00:48:13,384 --> 00:48:30,904
I would say 100% yes, because maybe you can get all the same information elsewhere, but there's just nothing like a good experienced person who probably has experience in those networks and that industry that's going to be able to point you in the right direction.

1155
00:48:31,544 --> 00:48:34,864
And then also, too, you can always just try it for a couple of years.

1156
00:48:34,864 --> 00:48:37,244
If you don't like it, then you can leave, right?

1157
00:48:38,524 --> 00:48:39,844
Yeah, you can always come back, too.

1158
00:48:39,844 --> 00:48:43,224
So you can get the other way where you don't go to university, see what it's like without it.

1159
00:48:43,224 --> 00:48:44,164
and then try to come back.

1160
00:48:44,224 --> 00:48:45,264
I think the biggest problem

1161
00:48:45,264 --> 00:48:47,444
with the university stuff

1162
00:48:47,444 --> 00:48:48,484
is just more like

1163
00:48:48,484 --> 00:48:49,684
all the lame classes

1164
00:48:49,684 --> 00:48:50,404
they make you take.

1165
00:48:50,564 --> 00:48:51,424
I think that's kind of

1166
00:48:51,424 --> 00:48:53,344
what Elon says about college

1167
00:48:53,344 --> 00:48:54,744
where they make you do the stuff

1168
00:48:54,744 --> 00:48:58,064
that's really not going to benefit you

1169
00:48:58,064 --> 00:49:00,924
or your occupation, right?

1170
00:49:01,584 --> 00:49:01,924
Yeah.

1171
00:49:02,224 --> 00:49:02,904
I mean, it's still good

1172
00:49:02,904 --> 00:49:03,944
to take some of these stuff,

1173
00:49:04,064 --> 00:49:04,744
but it's just like

1174
00:49:04,744 --> 00:49:06,424
you should be a little bit

1175
00:49:06,424 --> 00:49:07,204
more lenient on it.

1176
00:49:07,824 --> 00:49:08,084
Yeah.

1177
00:49:08,464 --> 00:49:09,864
I think the main idea

1178
00:49:09,864 --> 00:49:11,124
is that it kind of rounds you out

1179
00:49:11,124 --> 00:49:11,604
as a person.

1180
00:49:11,804 --> 00:49:13,024
I think college was like

1181
00:49:13,024 --> 00:49:17,344
originally conceived when most people who were going to college were like very wealthy and kind

1182
00:49:17,344 --> 00:49:23,584
of didn't need to be concerned about money. They were just kind of trying to become better

1183
00:49:23,584 --> 00:49:30,844
aristocrats. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And so some of the requirements seem to kind of echo that earlier

1184
00:49:30,844 --> 00:49:38,744
period. Cool. The other one I thought was really interesting was the art in artificial intelligence.

1185
00:49:38,744 --> 00:49:44,684
This was another one inside of the AI Bitcoin post that Optimism posted.

1186
00:49:44,884 --> 00:49:48,204
This one was a, is it the end of human creativity?

1187
00:49:48,424 --> 00:49:50,184
This was really interesting.

1188
00:49:50,444 --> 00:49:54,584
So I read through this one this morning and let me see if I can, oh, I translated.

1189
00:49:54,804 --> 00:49:54,944
Cool.

1190
00:49:55,864 --> 00:50:08,004
So it just talks about how like artificial intelligence is going to start seeping into art and you're going to start seeing it more at some of these different museums.

1191
00:50:08,004 --> 00:50:10,064
and it's going to be showcased a little bit more.

1192
00:50:10,184 --> 00:50:12,784
They did talk about one specific piece of art

1193
00:50:12,784 --> 00:50:13,704
that was sold.

1194
00:50:14,204 --> 00:50:15,864
I believe they said it was in 2018,

1195
00:50:16,424 --> 00:50:17,644
which is this one right here.

1196
00:50:17,704 --> 00:50:20,124
This was from Pierre Fautry.

1197
00:50:20,904 --> 00:50:24,364
It was called the Edmond de Bellamy.

1198
00:50:24,704 --> 00:50:27,424
This was an AI-generated portrait in 2018

1199
00:50:27,424 --> 00:50:29,124
that got sold almost immediately,

1200
00:50:29,264 --> 00:50:29,724
I think they said.

1201
00:50:29,724 --> 00:50:29,984
Yeah.

1202
00:50:30,444 --> 00:50:32,524
When a work created using artificial intelligence

1203
00:50:32,524 --> 00:50:35,064
was auctioned at Christie's for the first time,

1204
00:50:35,064 --> 00:50:41,704
which sold after more than six minutes of bidding for 380,000 euros.

1205
00:50:42,164 --> 00:50:49,284
Shortly after the same happened with memories of Transience 2019 by Mario Klingman,

1206
00:50:49,604 --> 00:50:53,884
which sold at Sorsby's for 46,450 euros.

1207
00:50:54,684 --> 00:50:58,284
And then it goes on to talk about how artificial intelligence has actually converged

1208
00:50:58,284 --> 00:51:01,764
in this new kind of creative field.

1209
00:51:01,764 --> 00:51:04,104
and then they kind of show different

1210
00:51:04,104 --> 00:51:06,124
like installations that were created

1211
00:51:06,124 --> 00:51:08,164
with artificial intelligence and how

1212
00:51:08,164 --> 00:51:10,024
artists are

1213
00:51:10,024 --> 00:51:12,224
interpreting it and using it in their collections

1214
00:51:12,224 --> 00:51:14,064
really

1215
00:51:14,064 --> 00:51:15,984
fascinating stuff definitely

1216
00:51:15,984 --> 00:51:18,024
recommend reading it's a really short read but it's a

1217
00:51:18,024 --> 00:51:19,884
good post from it looks like it's

1218
00:51:19,884 --> 00:51:21,984
the Madrid Museum of Art

1219
00:51:21,984 --> 00:51:24,264
Kian

1220
00:51:24,264 --> 00:51:25,524
what do you think about this kind of stuff

1221
00:51:25,524 --> 00:51:27,984
well it looks like the ones

1222
00:51:27,984 --> 00:51:30,124
that they talked about being sold or maybe bought

1223
00:51:30,124 --> 00:51:32,164
on like a historical basis.

1224
00:51:32,164 --> 00:51:36,544
Like I own the first fine art painting

1225
00:51:36,544 --> 00:51:37,384
that was done by I

1226
00:51:37,384 --> 00:51:38,664
because it does not look good.

1227
00:51:39,664 --> 00:51:42,364
But I could see someone wanting to collect that

1228
00:51:42,364 --> 00:51:44,304
and collect early pieces of art

1229
00:51:44,304 --> 00:51:44,844
that were like,

1230
00:51:44,884 --> 00:51:46,344
especially before the LLM stuff.

1231
00:51:47,704 --> 00:51:48,364
I don't know.

1232
00:51:48,444 --> 00:51:49,044
I find, you know,

1233
00:51:49,104 --> 00:51:51,444
I think you can complain about this kind of stuff

1234
00:51:51,444 --> 00:51:52,764
or say it's destroying art

1235
00:51:52,764 --> 00:51:54,764
or doesn't have soul or whatever.

1236
00:51:54,904 --> 00:51:56,384
I bet you could find similar arguments

1237
00:51:56,384 --> 00:51:58,484
about the switch from like oil paints

1238
00:51:58,484 --> 00:52:01,024
to acrylic based paints.

1239
00:52:01,384 --> 00:52:04,764
And I, you know, all technologies, I think,

1240
00:52:05,624 --> 00:52:07,424
upset people in a way.

1241
00:52:07,564 --> 00:52:08,704
And I think artists,

1242
00:52:10,264 --> 00:52:12,244
art is not defined, I think, by the medium.

1243
00:52:13,364 --> 00:52:15,284
So if they're using AI,

1244
00:52:15,564 --> 00:52:17,044
I think they can still produce art.

1245
00:52:17,444 --> 00:52:20,724
And someone will, if they're good,

1246
00:52:21,124 --> 00:52:23,044
if they have taste, someone will value it.

1247
00:52:23,044 --> 00:52:26,004
And yeah, that's what I think.

1248
00:52:26,004 --> 00:52:30,164
I would be interested to ask you a question because it popped in my head.

1249
00:52:30,744 --> 00:52:42,544
Obviously, there's going to be like if you have an artist, like an already famous artist, and then they do like a, you know, AI generated type of portrait or something or incorporated in some way that's a useful tool or whatever.

1250
00:52:42,704 --> 00:52:43,824
I think obviously it's going to sell.

1251
00:52:43,824 --> 00:53:02,764
So the question that popped in my head when I read this article was kind of more akin to like, is it possible to do like an LLM of a sort or create some sort of like version of like a chat GBT thing that only does art?

1252
00:53:02,764 --> 00:53:05,404
like making it just an artist

1253
00:53:05,404 --> 00:53:06,364
like

1254
00:53:06,364 --> 00:53:08,924
like say you got the

1255
00:53:08,924 --> 00:53:11,184
world's best art and you like put it

1256
00:53:11,184 --> 00:53:12,584
inside this kind of big

1257
00:53:12,584 --> 00:53:15,164
LLM of a sort and all it did was

1258
00:53:15,164 --> 00:53:17,164
produce art and then

1259
00:53:17,164 --> 00:53:18,624
and then the

1260
00:53:18,624 --> 00:53:21,264
person who's the artist then uses that

1261
00:53:21,264 --> 00:53:23,244
to create the art. Not saying that he's

1262
00:53:23,244 --> 00:53:25,044
using chat GPT4 or

1263
00:53:25,044 --> 00:53:27,324
open ad. Maybe he makes his own version of that

1264
00:53:27,324 --> 00:53:29,024
or whatever. But is that

1265
00:53:29,024 --> 00:53:30,944
possible to do? Yeah.

1266
00:53:30,944 --> 00:53:32,504
I think you could see people doing that.

1267
00:53:32,584 --> 00:53:36,684
I think there was an early AI company that focused primarily on images.

1268
00:53:36,924 --> 00:53:37,764
I forget their name.

1269
00:53:37,944 --> 00:53:42,324
It's been so long since because all the LLMs now are like multimodal

1270
00:53:42,324 --> 00:53:46,684
and can do images and video and stuff along with the LLM stuff.

1271
00:53:46,884 --> 00:53:48,924
But I think they're called stable diffusion.

1272
00:53:49,644 --> 00:53:50,544
Maybe that's the technique.

1273
00:53:50,724 --> 00:53:51,804
I forget exactly.

1274
00:53:52,164 --> 00:53:56,084
But they were focused specifically on generating images and art.

1275
00:53:57,244 --> 00:53:59,724
But I think you'll see, yeah, lots of specialization.

1276
00:53:59,724 --> 00:54:20,044
And I think the, yeah, the, the like terminal state, a lot of this stuff is us creating intelligences, um, to suit our own needs on perhaps on like a per need basis, not, not necessarily a general intelligence, but perhaps very specific ones.

1277
00:54:20,044 --> 00:54:23,104
that's like kind of the agent

1278
00:54:23,104 --> 00:54:25,344
agentize everything kind of view

1279
00:54:25,344 --> 00:54:27,264
but I could see that happening

1280
00:54:27,264 --> 00:54:29,304
just because

1281
00:54:29,304 --> 00:54:31,044
it's useful to constrain

1282
00:54:31,044 --> 00:54:32,064
to have constrained

1283
00:54:32,064 --> 00:54:34,144
devices

1284
00:54:34,144 --> 00:54:36,684
like I don't know if I want my

1285
00:54:36,684 --> 00:54:39,244
pet cat to have

1286
00:54:39,244 --> 00:54:40,604
an IQ of 220

1287
00:54:40,604 --> 00:54:43,264
you know like I kind of like that

1288
00:54:43,264 --> 00:54:45,144
it just kind of wants to lay

1289
00:54:45,144 --> 00:54:47,004
around and purr and get pet

1290
00:54:47,004 --> 00:54:49,344
and you know

1291
00:54:49,344 --> 00:54:55,464
So maybe I prefer it could use a toilet, but that's about it.

1292
00:54:55,944 --> 00:54:57,884
Yeah, that's kind of where my mind went to when I read this.

1293
00:54:57,884 --> 00:55:05,624
I could see a world where these places have their own sort of like,

1294
00:55:05,624 --> 00:55:10,964
I don't want to call it a chop shop because that kind of feels a little bit slanderish,

1295
00:55:11,104 --> 00:55:17,924
but their own sort of creative LLM of a sort that creates the best works

1296
00:55:17,924 --> 00:55:20,524
and then they release it in their own kind of like...

1297
00:55:20,524 --> 00:55:22,564
Where the art is the LLM part.

1298
00:55:22,564 --> 00:55:22,824
The exhibit.

1299
00:55:23,024 --> 00:55:25,264
Yeah, they release it with their own exhibit

1300
00:55:25,264 --> 00:55:26,544
and then it's like,

1301
00:55:26,924 --> 00:55:27,904
and then that's just another,

1302
00:55:28,524 --> 00:55:30,304
maybe it's with other artists as well,

1303
00:55:30,304 --> 00:55:32,504
but maybe there's like a certain lane

1304
00:55:32,504 --> 00:55:34,464
where it's just like it's doing its own thing.

1305
00:55:34,804 --> 00:55:35,744
So I could see that.

1306
00:55:36,244 --> 00:55:37,304
Kind of like what's similar,

1307
00:55:37,464 --> 00:55:38,464
like what kind of Spotify

1308
00:55:38,464 --> 00:55:40,664
and some of these other like music people

1309
00:55:40,664 --> 00:55:41,944
are doing already with like,

1310
00:55:42,004 --> 00:55:43,824
they're creating their own musical artists

1311
00:55:43,824 --> 00:55:46,244
and then kind of lumping in with the rest of the...

1312
00:55:46,244 --> 00:55:47,604
So you can kind of see that.

1313
00:55:47,924 --> 00:55:50,184
Like I can see that kind of happening.

1314
00:55:51,104 --> 00:55:57,064
So it would be interesting though to see how that's going to play out though.

1315
00:55:57,144 --> 00:55:57,604
But cause I can,

1316
00:55:57,604 --> 00:56:01,664
I can see people also getting tired of that or not wanting that too as well.

1317
00:56:02,284 --> 00:56:02,684
Yeah.

1318
00:56:02,964 --> 00:56:03,884
I could see that too.

1319
00:56:04,324 --> 00:56:04,684
But yeah,

1320
00:56:04,684 --> 00:56:06,724
it got me thinking about all sorts of things when I saw this.

1321
00:56:07,044 --> 00:56:07,364
Yeah.

1322
00:56:07,584 --> 00:56:09,204
I just haven't listened to much AI music.

1323
00:56:09,204 --> 00:56:20,640
I wonder maybe I haven I just didn know but it would I would negatively affect it I think if I knew it was like not a human being It like who am I connecting Who on the other side of this

1324
00:56:20,700 --> 00:56:26,960
Because I kind of feel like when I'm listening to music or art, I'm always thinking about like what's on the other side of this medium.

1325
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:33,020
Yeah, that's why the in-person stuff is far more important these days, I think.

1326
00:56:33,020 --> 00:56:36,220
at least for me that I've come to realize like the in-person stuff is,

1327
00:56:36,360 --> 00:56:39,960
I think it's going to be far more expensive to do in-person stuff than it is

1328
00:56:39,960 --> 00:56:43,520
going to be to like do the virtual stuff.

1329
00:56:43,600 --> 00:56:45,800
I think it's just going to go even higher and higher and higher.

1330
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:51,040
Like I think people are under, what do you say?

1331
00:56:51,120 --> 00:56:52,700
Like I think people are over on the,

1332
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:55,100
like over on the other side versus this side.

1333
00:56:55,180 --> 00:56:55,580
Does that make sense?

1334
00:56:57,900 --> 00:56:58,260
Yeah.

1335
00:56:58,920 --> 00:56:59,280
Yeah.

1336
00:56:59,620 --> 00:57:00,360
Anyways, we'll see.

1337
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:03,580
the other one I wanted to

1338
00:57:03,580 --> 00:57:05,380
I think that's all of them yeah we're going to jump into

1339
00:57:05,380 --> 00:57:06,140
Womble's Picks

1340
00:57:06,140 --> 00:57:07,180
Womble's Picks

1341
00:57:07,180 --> 00:57:10,860
Womble's Picks

1342
00:57:10,860 --> 00:57:12,900
Womble's Picks

1343
00:57:12,900 --> 00:57:13,560
Womble's Picks

1344
00:57:13,560 --> 00:57:16,940
this is Womble's Picks

1345
00:57:16,940 --> 00:57:18,020
segment

1346
00:57:18,020 --> 00:57:21,180
Keon this is do not see

1347
00:57:21,180 --> 00:57:23,160
BTC pay on chain receive

1348
00:57:23,160 --> 00:57:24,940
transactions as Bitcoin beginner territory

1349
00:57:24,940 --> 00:57:27,060
picture room 7 comments

1350
00:57:27,060 --> 00:57:29,380
421 cents Womble's Picks

1351
00:57:29,380 --> 00:57:33,460
This is one that Wumble picks every week here on Stacker News Live.

1352
00:57:34,200 --> 00:57:36,620
Wumble does all behind-scenes stuff that you see.

1353
00:57:37,360 --> 00:57:38,080
It's all magic.

1354
00:57:39,300 --> 00:57:42,100
It is pretty magical how he does it.

1355
00:57:43,500 --> 00:57:47,880
Yeah, so this week, this post triggered it,

1356
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,420
which gets to something we call the gap limit problem,

1357
00:57:52,940 --> 00:57:55,940
which is a problem that you will encounter

1358
00:57:55,940 --> 00:58:00,480
when you have loaded something that we call,

1359
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:02,540
that you load an extended public key

1360
00:58:02,540 --> 00:58:06,900
into a watch-only wallet or some other system,

1361
00:58:07,100 --> 00:58:10,740
and you do not see all your transactions in it.

1362
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:14,600
And that's because this XPub allows you

1363
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:17,080
to take your seed phrase

1364
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:20,180
and extend it into multiple addresses.

1365
00:58:20,420 --> 00:58:21,400
Because in Bitcoin,

1366
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,780
you do not want to receive the same address

1367
00:58:24,780 --> 00:58:26,820
more than once for privacy reasons.

1368
00:58:27,540 --> 00:58:29,360
So each address is kind of new.

1369
00:58:29,440 --> 00:58:30,360
It can be a new person.

1370
00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:32,240
And that's kind of the way it appears on chain.

1371
00:58:32,300 --> 00:58:33,400
And that's good for your privacy.

1372
00:58:34,060 --> 00:58:36,720
So we have these things called derivation paths,

1373
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:39,460
which are specified in your XPUB

1374
00:58:39,460 --> 00:58:44,720
and allow you using this specification in the XPUB

1375
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,080
to generate an unlimited amount of receiving addresses

1376
00:58:48,080 --> 00:58:50,320
from just this little piece of information.

1377
00:58:51,420 --> 00:58:53,160
And the problem that occurs

1378
00:58:53,160 --> 00:58:55,220
is that a lot of these wallets,

1379
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:58,660
they have what is called a gap limit,

1380
00:58:59,220 --> 00:59:03,180
where if for some of those addresses

1381
00:59:03,180 --> 00:59:05,780
you have generated in this derivation path,

1382
00:59:05,900 --> 00:59:09,860
it's like you can imagine

1383
00:59:09,860 --> 00:59:11,620
you're hiking along a path

1384
00:59:11,620 --> 00:59:15,360
and there are sandwiches along the path.

1385
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:19,920
And let's say you don't eat 20 of those sandwiches.

1386
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:24,900
the software assumes that you did not continue on the path because anyone,

1387
00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:27,960
anyone who went on this path would eat those sandwiches really.

1388
00:59:28,340 --> 00:59:29,920
And so it's, it kind of stops and says,

1389
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:32,280
this person did not continue hiking on this path.

1390
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:33,900
And so it's the same with these addresses,

1391
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:36,000
these addresses got generated and they weren't consumed.

1392
00:59:36,120 --> 00:59:36,900
They weren't used.

1393
00:59:37,120 --> 00:59:40,400
So a lot of these wallets are like, okay, I don't need to look any further.

1394
00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:45,160
I don't need to look on chain for any more of these addresses getting consumed.

1395
00:59:45,860 --> 00:59:49,420
And so you end up oftentimes you'll like export, you'll have one,

1396
00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:53,760
you'll have like BTC pay server and it'll show all of these,

1397
00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,300
all of these transactions or you look on chain and it'll look like I'm,

1398
00:59:56,540 --> 01:00:00,280
I have more money than this watch only wallet, this blue wallet.

1399
01:00:00,380 --> 01:00:01,720
Say I load my expo into blue wallet.

1400
01:00:02,160 --> 01:00:05,860
My watch only wallet is not showing all of these transactions that I have.

1401
01:00:05,900 --> 01:00:08,240
It's showing that I have less money than I do. It's because it, it,

1402
01:00:08,380 --> 01:00:09,460
it had a gap.

1403
01:00:09,960 --> 01:00:14,360
You had a gap in your derivations of addresses that were unused and it stopped

1404
01:00:14,360 --> 01:00:18,600
looking for them. So you usually have to say, Oh, you know what?

1405
01:00:18,600 --> 01:00:24,000
I skipped eating 30 sandwiches on the path, not 20.

1406
01:00:24,220 --> 01:00:28,100
So you need to actually look 30 sandwiches along the path

1407
01:00:28,100 --> 01:00:29,900
and you'll see me continue eating sandwiches later

1408
01:00:29,900 --> 01:00:31,840
and then you'll know where I am.

1409
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,580
It's kind of like that.

1410
01:00:34,060 --> 01:00:36,840
Wasn't there, I remember, wasn't there a wallet?

1411
01:00:36,980 --> 01:00:38,600
I forget whose wallet it was,

1412
01:00:38,700 --> 01:00:42,000
but they discovered this like when they were building their wallet

1413
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,200
and then I think we talked about it and it was like.

1414
01:00:44,260 --> 01:00:45,620
I think Zapprite had their own,

1415
01:00:45,620 --> 01:00:47,780
that Zaprite wrote a blog post about solving,

1416
01:00:47,900 --> 01:00:49,380
how they solved the gap limit problem.

1417
01:00:49,580 --> 01:00:52,520
I think even Mutiny might have written a blog post

1418
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:53,520
about the gap limit.

1419
01:00:53,520 --> 01:00:56,680
Yeah, and then how like most people don't realize this.

1420
01:01:00,040 --> 01:01:00,480
Interesting.

1421
01:01:01,180 --> 01:01:02,720
And I'm sure Unchain has written most,

1422
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:04,140
a lot of posts about this, right?

1423
01:01:04,620 --> 01:01:06,480
Yeah, it comes up all the time.

1424
01:01:06,560 --> 01:01:07,920
I think this was like, I was,

1425
01:01:08,240 --> 01:01:09,220
when I clicked on this thing,

1426
01:01:09,260 --> 01:01:10,560
I was expecting to go to another post

1427
01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,460
where a guy had the exact same problem

1428
01:01:12,460 --> 01:01:14,980
a few days earlier than this post was written.

1429
01:01:14,980 --> 01:01:37,100
And Natalia wrote a post about the gap limit problem where they, I think their BTC pay server showed that they had the money, but then they had a watch only wallet, I think in blue wallet that did not show it. And it was just this, it was just this rectifying this gap limit problem. Usually it's a configuration setting in your wallet where you can tell it how big, how big a gap you might have.

1430
01:01:37,100 --> 01:01:43,100
yeah I think there are like optimizations you can do around it if you're a wallet developer

1431
01:01:43,100 --> 01:01:50,540
that's crazy like so like you would think and I don't mean crazy it's just crazy that because

1432
01:01:50,540 --> 01:01:55,800
most people don't know this but you would think like we would be working on some of this stuff

1433
01:01:55,800 --> 01:02:03,880
like as some of this stuff that that you think would be more important for people that are trying

1434
01:02:03,880 --> 01:02:08,100
to, you know, I don't know.

1435
01:02:08,180 --> 01:02:08,780
I mean, that's just.

1436
01:02:09,020 --> 01:02:10,960
Yeah, this would be a huge UX improvement

1437
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,940
if someone could make this problem go away.

1438
01:02:13,040 --> 01:02:15,140
But I think fundamentally there's not,

1439
01:02:15,500 --> 01:02:16,520
you can't really do much

1440
01:02:16,520 --> 01:02:17,180
because again, you can,

1441
01:02:17,640 --> 01:02:19,280
the path is infinitely long.

1442
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,960
Like the path, the possible,

1443
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:25,040
you have to, if you're developing a wallet,

1444
01:02:25,140 --> 01:02:26,040
you have to choose at some point

1445
01:02:26,040 --> 01:02:29,240
to not look at every possible address

1446
01:02:29,240 --> 01:02:30,680
that could be generated

1447
01:02:30,680 --> 01:02:32,060
because there's infinity of them.

1448
01:02:32,060 --> 01:02:51,240
And so you say if I come across 20, maybe even 300 addresses that were derived and all of them are empty, they were never used, I don't need to look at infinity addresses because I know it's highly unlikely they have 300 unused addresses.

1449
01:02:51,820 --> 01:02:51,960
Yeah.

1450
01:02:52,340 --> 01:02:54,620
So I'm not sure there's a great solution.

1451
01:02:54,620 --> 01:02:59,680
So is it just set up by the wall by default or just depending on what wall that you're using?

1452
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:02,440
The gap limit itself, yeah.

1453
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,760
Each wallet has their own limit.

1454
01:03:04,880 --> 01:03:07,320
I think the default in most wallets is around 20.

1455
01:03:07,800 --> 01:03:08,980
Why so low?

1456
01:03:10,020 --> 01:03:13,100
Just because they don't expect you to receive that many...

1457
01:03:13,100 --> 01:03:15,060
Yeah, to get that many invoices that are...

1458
01:03:15,060 --> 01:03:17,800
Or to generate that many invoices that are unpaid, I think.

1459
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,320
And I think it's not...

1460
01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,280
And these are typically...

1461
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,000
It's usually a result, I think, of a bug in the software

1462
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:28,320
that a gap even happens, a gap even occurs.

1463
01:03:28,320 --> 01:03:30,280
because the addresses can just be,

1464
01:03:30,740 --> 01:03:31,900
if you generate an address,

1465
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,300
it should be, and it doesn't get paid,

1466
01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,400
it should be used to pay for the next invoice.

1467
01:03:36,980 --> 01:03:38,760
So if you're like BTC pay server

1468
01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:43,120
and you go to buy a hat from me on my BTC pay server

1469
01:03:43,120 --> 01:03:45,680
and you just don't pay the invoice,

1470
01:03:46,140 --> 01:03:49,280
anyone comes back to buy a hat or a shirt or whatever,

1471
01:03:49,660 --> 01:03:51,900
I can use the same exact Bitcoin address again.

1472
01:03:52,080 --> 01:03:55,420
And so on some level, it's like the problem occurs

1473
01:03:55,420 --> 01:04:00,160
because of like a bug in software,

1474
01:04:00,820 --> 01:04:02,780
they like, they create the gap

1475
01:04:02,780 --> 01:04:04,840
when they probably don't need to.

1476
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:06,200
In some cases, maybe they do need to.

1477
01:04:06,280 --> 01:04:06,860
I don't really know.

1478
01:04:06,940 --> 01:04:08,160
I haven't developed one of these wallets,

1479
01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,620
but so, yeah, I don't know.

1480
01:04:12,340 --> 01:04:13,620
Yeah, I feel like they've probably,

1481
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:14,680
I feel like a bigger gap though.

1482
01:04:14,700 --> 01:04:16,500
I feel like most people just probably moved on

1483
01:04:16,500 --> 01:04:19,440
from working on Bitcoin on chain at this point.

1484
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:20,880
They're just like, ah, we're done with it.

1485
01:04:21,040 --> 01:04:21,760
I think there's a lot of people.

1486
01:04:21,860 --> 01:04:22,760
This is just, I don't think.

1487
01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:23,660
It's such a low priority.

1488
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:25,360
They're just like, eh, who cares?

1489
01:04:25,420 --> 01:04:28,080
Yeah, I think it's just, this is like a...

1490
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:29,320
Such a low priority thing.

1491
01:04:29,740 --> 01:04:31,300
I think it's a big thing.

1492
01:04:32,140 --> 01:04:34,460
It'd be cool if somehow this problem didn't exist.

1493
01:04:34,800 --> 01:04:35,420
Yeah, for sure.

1494
01:04:35,560 --> 01:04:37,140
I don't think there is.

1495
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:38,260
I think it's like fundamental.

1496
01:04:38,260 --> 01:04:40,300
No one cares about on-chain anymore, to be honest.

1497
01:04:41,380 --> 01:04:42,880
Well, you were just talking about on-chain.

1498
01:04:43,000 --> 01:04:46,180
I mean, trust me, I'm going to start using on-chain stuff.

1499
01:04:46,780 --> 01:04:48,280
This would help me achieve my goal.

1500
01:04:48,860 --> 01:04:49,860
Okay, what do you think?

1501
01:04:50,300 --> 01:04:54,260
I want to send 300 on-chain transactions a week.

1502
01:04:54,260 --> 01:04:55,340
This will help me do it.

1503
01:04:55,340 --> 01:04:56,880
on chain. What kind of... Okay.

1504
01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:58,700
Just $5 on chain.

1505
01:04:58,700 --> 01:04:59,840
$300, $500

1506
01:04:59,840 --> 01:05:01,760
transactions a week.

1507
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:03,620
Help me do this.

1508
01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:05,480
Well, good luck.

1509
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:06,840
Interesting.

1510
01:05:07,980 --> 01:05:10,060
Great post. That's the gap limit problem.

1511
01:05:10,180 --> 01:05:11,880
If you want to read more about the gap limit

1512
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:14,360
or any of these things that we cover in Wombos

1513
01:05:14,360 --> 01:05:15,980
Picks, which are usually... Wombos Picks!

1514
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,320
Usually more fundamental Bitcoin

1515
01:05:18,320 --> 01:05:20,140
things that I'm

1516
01:05:20,140 --> 01:05:22,340
even not very super familiar

1517
01:05:22,340 --> 01:05:24,500
with. I would go to...

1518
01:05:24,500 --> 01:05:25,320
Don't like it.

1519
01:05:25,340 --> 01:05:26,240
Don't subscribe it.

1520
01:05:26,420 --> 01:05:26,920
Yeah, don't do that.

1521
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:27,500
Don't do that.

1522
01:05:27,940 --> 01:05:29,180
Learnmeabitcoin.com.

1523
01:05:29,680 --> 01:05:30,540
Learnmeabitcoin.com.

1524
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:30,840
There you go.

1525
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:42,016
It has a lot of great explainers on basically everything Just like this learnmeabitcoin It a great website It interactive

1526
01:05:42,516 --> 01:05:42,796
Boom.

1527
01:05:42,916 --> 01:05:44,656
And it's been up forever.

1528
01:05:44,836 --> 01:05:45,116
Do it.

1529
01:05:46,056 --> 01:05:46,996
Is it just www?

1530
01:05:48,136 --> 01:05:51,476
I think you probably need, yeah, www.

1531
01:05:51,836 --> 01:05:52,276
See if that works.

1532
01:05:52,596 --> 01:05:53,196
Oh, there you go.

1533
01:05:54,016 --> 01:05:54,516
There you go.

1534
01:05:54,656 --> 01:05:57,676
But you can go, like, if you search for derivation path at the top there.

1535
01:05:57,676 --> 01:06:01,916
You can even learn how on-chain still is not complete.

1536
01:06:02,356 --> 01:06:05,476
derivation.

1537
01:06:06,476 --> 01:06:08,536
You can learn how derivation path,

1538
01:06:08,616 --> 01:06:10,476
how on-chain is not complete,

1539
01:06:10,556 --> 01:06:12,976
but we'd rather have inscriptions instead.

1540
01:06:13,176 --> 01:06:14,196
I think it's rather,

1541
01:06:14,516 --> 01:06:16,016
you said deveration.

1542
01:06:16,496 --> 01:06:17,416
Oh, dev.

1543
01:06:18,016 --> 01:06:20,476
C-E-R-I.

1544
01:06:22,396 --> 01:06:23,256
Oh, there he goes.

1545
01:06:23,276 --> 01:06:23,716
I found it.

1546
01:06:23,796 --> 01:06:24,196
There you go.

1547
01:06:24,716 --> 01:06:27,076
You can learn how some of the things

1548
01:06:27,076 --> 01:06:28,116
that we really need in Bitcoin

1549
01:06:28,116 --> 01:06:30,296
are just not important.

1550
01:06:30,456 --> 01:06:31,676
At the very bottom of this page,

1551
01:06:31,676 --> 01:06:36,576
they describe the gap limit in detail.

1552
01:06:36,876 --> 01:06:42,576
They kind of show how addresses are derived from the XPUB.

1553
01:06:43,856 --> 01:06:45,056
There you go.

1554
01:06:45,856 --> 01:06:47,116
And where it occurs.

1555
01:06:47,256 --> 01:06:54,536
You too can learn how this is not as important as inscriptions and ordinals.

1556
01:06:55,456 --> 01:06:56,876
Just like I did today.

1557
01:06:58,096 --> 01:06:58,596
Cool.

1558
01:06:59,076 --> 01:07:00,696
Thank you, Wumble, for picking this one.

1559
01:07:01,676 --> 01:07:04,156
we're going to jump into Keon's picks.

1560
01:07:04,376 --> 01:07:08,036
The first one you have was Noster Game Engine.

1561
01:07:08,456 --> 01:07:08,656
Wow.

1562
01:07:08,696 --> 01:07:09,496
Look at that frame rate.

1563
01:07:11,736 --> 01:07:12,396
What's this one?

1564
01:07:12,736 --> 01:07:12,996
Yeah.

1565
01:07:13,276 --> 01:07:14,376
I don't know about frame rates.

1566
01:07:14,496 --> 01:07:15,256
I'm not much of a gamer.

1567
01:07:15,256 --> 01:07:17,016
I just said that because it sounded about right.

1568
01:07:17,136 --> 01:07:17,716
Oh yeah.

1569
01:07:18,096 --> 01:07:18,236
I mean,

1570
01:07:18,236 --> 01:07:19,296
maybe we'll get back and forth.

1571
01:07:19,456 --> 01:07:19,936
The Skypod.

1572
01:07:19,936 --> 01:07:20,036
The Skypod.

1573
01:07:22,176 --> 01:07:22,576
Gamers.

1574
01:07:23,856 --> 01:07:28,656
So Noster Game Engine is a game engine that RVLV is working on that is

1575
01:07:28,656 --> 01:07:36,776
sponsored by, it's like a patch into an existing game engine for Noster stuff. And it's sponsored

1576
01:07:36,776 --> 01:07:44,356
by OpenSats. And he's been doing release notes for like kind of pretty major things that he's

1577
01:07:44,356 --> 01:07:49,396
adding to the code base. In this case, he adds his Noster ads protocol. I guess he came up with

1578
01:07:49,396 --> 01:07:55,156
his own ads protocol. But yeah. Cool. Yeah. The general idea is that it creates a sort of using

1579
01:07:55,156 --> 01:07:58,776
Noster, it creates a sort of marketplace for ads.

1580
01:07:59,116 --> 01:08:00,156
Oh, he's using Noster?

1581
01:08:00,856 --> 01:08:02,196
He's using Noster for ads?

1582
01:08:02,316 --> 01:08:02,516
Yeah.

1583
01:08:02,736 --> 01:08:03,336
Where's that at?

1584
01:08:03,676 --> 01:08:04,476
Where do I go look at that?

1585
01:08:04,816 --> 01:08:06,656
Where do you want to look at what?

1586
01:08:06,856 --> 01:08:07,616
The ads thing.

1587
01:08:07,776 --> 01:08:08,736
Oh, the ads thing.

1588
01:08:08,796 --> 01:08:09,836
It's somewhere in there.

1589
01:08:10,056 --> 01:08:10,476
There we go.

1590
01:08:10,576 --> 01:08:11,356
Dedicated posts.

1591
01:08:11,596 --> 01:08:12,016
Dedicated posts.

1592
01:08:12,136 --> 01:08:12,336
Got it.

1593
01:08:12,976 --> 01:08:13,216
Yeah.

1594
01:08:13,736 --> 01:08:15,696
Advertises, publish bids, Noster.

1595
01:08:16,296 --> 01:08:16,596
Yeah.

1596
01:08:16,936 --> 01:08:21,696
So basically, if you're running a game, you can kind of like look and see if there's anyone

1597
01:08:21,696 --> 01:08:23,776
who wants to put up an ad

1598
01:08:23,776 --> 01:08:25,296
and you can display them in your game

1599
01:08:25,296 --> 01:08:26,256
and make some money.

1600
01:08:27,356 --> 01:08:28,816
And so that's kind of,

1601
01:08:28,876 --> 01:08:31,236
so he wrote his own ad engine for that.

1602
01:08:31,596 --> 01:08:33,096
I think that he looked at some of the other ones

1603
01:08:33,096 --> 01:08:33,536
that existed,

1604
01:08:33,636 --> 01:08:36,116
he didn't really like them very much.

1605
01:08:36,116 --> 01:08:37,996
He found them to have problems.

1606
01:08:38,156 --> 01:08:41,836
So he wrote basically his own protocol for it.

1607
01:08:42,176 --> 01:08:43,296
And he shows it in the game

1608
01:08:43,296 --> 01:08:45,956
where as a person who's developing a game

1609
01:08:45,956 --> 01:08:47,536
using his Nostra game engine,

1610
01:08:47,756 --> 01:08:50,936
you can specify like walls in the game

1611
01:08:50,936 --> 01:08:52,256
for an ad to get displayed

1612
01:08:52,256 --> 01:08:53,836
or, you know, other places,

1613
01:08:53,956 --> 01:08:55,076
probably arbitrary places.

1614
01:08:56,056 --> 01:08:56,456
Yeah.

1615
01:08:56,856 --> 01:08:58,636
And I thought that was cool.

1616
01:08:58,796 --> 01:08:59,816
I'm liking these releases.

1617
01:08:59,996 --> 01:09:01,056
I'm looking forward to playing

1618
01:09:01,056 --> 01:09:01,976
a Nostraise game

1619
01:09:01,976 --> 01:09:04,256
at some point in the future.

1620
01:09:04,416 --> 01:09:05,496
Yeah, he's building an actual game

1621
01:09:05,496 --> 01:09:06,156
at some point, right?

1622
01:09:07,216 --> 01:09:08,496
I would guess so.

1623
01:09:08,556 --> 01:09:09,736
I mean, it's building in the engine,

1624
01:09:09,736 --> 01:09:10,796
but I would guess he would

1625
01:09:10,796 --> 01:09:12,176
dog food it into a game

1626
01:09:12,176 --> 01:09:13,436
at some point,

1627
01:09:13,476 --> 01:09:15,376
at least a simple one.

1628
01:09:16,136 --> 01:09:16,576
Cool.

1629
01:09:17,036 --> 01:09:17,336
Yeah.

1630
01:09:17,616 --> 01:09:18,656
Super cool stuff.

1631
01:09:19,016 --> 01:09:20,476
I love that he's building it.

1632
01:09:20,936 --> 01:09:22,156
What was the next one that you got?

1633
01:09:22,236 --> 01:09:24,556
You got the next one was your wildest drunk.

1634
01:09:24,616 --> 01:09:25,856
Oh, this is the EK one, right?

1635
01:09:26,276 --> 01:09:26,456
Yeah.

1636
01:09:26,776 --> 01:09:27,776
What was this one about?

1637
01:09:27,956 --> 01:09:28,356
Yeah, EK.

1638
01:09:28,856 --> 01:09:33,176
EK, I don't know why, but asked about everyone's wildest drunk story.

1639
01:09:33,456 --> 01:09:35,476
And so it's just, there's a lot of cool.

1640
01:09:35,736 --> 01:09:42,336
You learned about kind of a side of people that you wouldn't ordinarily learn about if you read through the comments.

1641
01:09:43,556 --> 01:09:50,116
But a lot, I mean, like South Korea LN described a time in Austin where they were without a shirt and without shoes.

1642
01:09:50,936 --> 01:09:52,216
walking down 6th Street.

1643
01:09:54,016 --> 01:09:57,316
Now it got robbed of his watch

1644
01:09:57,316 --> 01:09:59,496
and woke up in the middle of nowhere

1645
01:09:59,496 --> 01:10:00,316
without like,

1646
01:10:00,816 --> 01:10:03,636
and just like walking down a rural street.

1647
01:10:04,876 --> 01:10:07,396
I described two of many

1648
01:10:07,396 --> 01:10:10,916
wild drunk stories that I had,

1649
01:10:11,536 --> 01:10:12,436
but there's just a lot of them.

1650
01:10:12,536 --> 01:10:14,996
I agree, like pretty much most people

1651
01:10:14,996 --> 01:10:19,716
kind of shared stories like that.

1652
01:10:19,756 --> 01:10:20,116
And it's fun

1653
01:10:20,116 --> 01:10:22,796
Because, you know, it's like, this is the side of people,

1654
01:10:23,776 --> 01:10:27,556
it's like when their inhibitions are at their lowest.

1655
01:10:27,876 --> 01:10:33,116
And so they are kind of their most lizard-like self.

1656
01:10:33,116 --> 01:10:33,716
Most lizard.

1657
01:10:33,916 --> 01:10:35,036
What does that mean, most lizard?

1658
01:10:36,196 --> 01:10:40,316
Kind of like your base, more of your base person,

1659
01:10:40,556 --> 01:10:43,056
without all of the, like, self-control.

1660
01:10:43,456 --> 01:10:46,256
Fandango said, thankfully, there were no camera pics back in the day.

1661
01:10:46,896 --> 01:10:47,456
Am I right?

1662
01:10:48,016 --> 01:10:48,516
Yeah, dude.

1663
01:10:48,516 --> 01:10:51,576
Thank God there were no camera phone picks back in the day.

1664
01:10:51,676 --> 01:10:51,876
Look,

1665
01:10:51,956 --> 01:10:54,396
I said two DUIs.

1666
01:10:55,676 --> 01:10:56,196
One of them,

1667
01:10:56,296 --> 01:10:57,456
I crashed into a tree.

1668
01:10:59,696 --> 01:11:00,056
Yeah.

1669
01:11:01,796 --> 01:11:02,156
Yeah.

1670
01:11:02,416 --> 01:11:03,176
I had so many.

1671
01:11:03,236 --> 01:11:04,316
There's just too many to count.

1672
01:11:04,736 --> 01:11:05,596
I was in a band.

1673
01:11:05,756 --> 01:11:07,476
So that was just the things that we did.

1674
01:11:07,696 --> 01:11:08,676
I could tell you so many.

1675
01:11:09,316 --> 01:11:10,036
None for this.

1676
01:11:10,136 --> 01:11:10,316
None,

1677
01:11:10,376 --> 01:11:10,576
none,

1678
01:11:10,636 --> 01:11:12,316
none PG for this podcast.

1679
01:11:12,716 --> 01:11:13,476
None of them are PG.

1680
01:11:13,736 --> 01:11:14,396
None of them are PG.

1681
01:11:14,416 --> 01:11:15,056
Were you like,

1682
01:11:15,156 --> 01:11:15,436
we were,

1683
01:11:15,536 --> 01:11:15,716
I mean,

1684
01:11:15,716 --> 01:11:16,356
I was in a band,

1685
01:11:16,456 --> 01:11:16,596
dude.

1686
01:11:16,596 --> 01:11:17,716
Like it was like,

1687
01:11:18,076 --> 01:11:18,296
you know,

1688
01:11:18,296 --> 01:11:20,276
there are the people that did drugs and there's people that drink.

1689
01:11:20,376 --> 01:11:21,836
And I was always with people that were drinking.

1690
01:11:22,376 --> 01:11:23,496
I don't drink anymore.

1691
01:11:24,516 --> 01:11:24,836
Hmm.

1692
01:11:25,356 --> 01:11:25,516
Yeah.

1693
01:11:25,516 --> 01:11:26,196
I don't drink anymore.

1694
01:11:26,276 --> 01:11:26,496
Oh,

1695
01:11:26,676 --> 01:11:26,956
I mean,

1696
01:11:26,956 --> 01:11:27,796
whenever we do,

1697
01:11:27,876 --> 01:11:28,236
I mean,

1698
01:11:28,356 --> 01:11:31,216
we'll do it for like startup day or like,

1699
01:11:31,256 --> 01:11:31,616
um,

1700
01:11:32,016 --> 01:11:32,236
you know,

1701
01:11:32,236 --> 01:11:32,996
a special occasion.

1702
01:11:33,596 --> 01:11:33,956
Okay.

1703
01:11:33,956 --> 01:11:35,376
So you drink for special occasions.

1704
01:11:35,396 --> 01:11:35,656
Yeah.

1705
01:11:35,656 --> 01:11:36,596
For special occasions.

1706
01:11:36,936 --> 01:11:38,056
We're going to go drinking tonight.

1707
01:11:38,296 --> 01:11:38,616
Are you?

1708
01:11:38,716 --> 01:11:39,076
Um,

1709
01:11:39,256 --> 01:11:39,436
yeah.

1710
01:11:39,436 --> 01:11:39,836
John,

1711
01:11:40,216 --> 01:11:40,516
John,

1712
01:11:40,876 --> 01:11:42,416
we're going to go get a pint,

1713
01:11:42,776 --> 01:11:43,556
a proper pint.

1714
01:11:43,716 --> 01:11:44,816
Proper pint of Guinness.

1715
01:11:44,936 --> 01:11:45,696
Proper pint of Guinness.

1716
01:11:45,916 --> 01:11:46,316
So yeah,

1717
01:11:46,316 --> 01:11:47,016
that'll be fun.

1718
01:11:47,016 --> 01:11:48,756
I haven't had a beer since

1719
01:11:48,756 --> 01:11:49,976
gosh

1720
01:11:49,976 --> 01:11:50,976
what was the last time I had a beer

1721
01:11:50,976 --> 01:11:52,416
since Juan was here

1722
01:11:52,416 --> 01:11:54,056
since Juan Galt was here

1723
01:11:54,056 --> 01:11:54,976
that was the last time I had a beer

1724
01:11:54,976 --> 01:11:56,816
that was back in like

1725
01:11:56,816 --> 01:11:57,816
May or April

1726
01:11:57,816 --> 01:11:58,276
really?

1727
01:11:58,396 --> 01:11:59,096
that was that long ago?

1728
01:11:59,516 --> 01:11:59,736
yeah

1729
01:11:59,736 --> 01:12:01,656
because he left in April I think

1730
01:12:01,656 --> 01:12:03,596
right before the crypto conference

1731
01:12:03,596 --> 01:12:05,536
I think that was the last time

1732
01:12:05,536 --> 01:12:07,116
yeah

1733
01:12:07,116 --> 01:12:09,296
yeah I think that was the last time

1734
01:12:09,296 --> 01:12:11,216
what did you say?

1735
01:12:11,276 --> 01:12:11,996
I don't think he's left in

1736
01:12:11,996 --> 01:12:14,996
oh yeah he's definitely not allowed to hang out with this anyway

1737
01:12:14,996 --> 01:12:15,596
yeah

1738
01:12:15,596 --> 01:12:16,076
yeah

1739
01:12:16,076 --> 01:12:16,856
sorry Juan

1740
01:12:16,856 --> 01:12:20,536
anyways that's all your stories

1741
01:12:20,536 --> 01:12:22,396
the one I wanted to bring up was

1742
01:12:22,396 --> 01:12:24,556
yeah the sad news this week was

1743
01:12:24,556 --> 01:12:26,596
from the Charlie

1744
01:12:26,596 --> 01:12:28,616
Kirk thing so they actually

1745
01:12:28,616 --> 01:12:30,636
caught the guy I don't know if you saw this Keanu

1746
01:12:30,636 --> 01:12:31,936
or if you were to pay attention to it

1747
01:12:31,936 --> 01:12:33,256
yeah I did I did

1748
01:12:33,256 --> 01:12:35,756
whoa I saw these ads

1749
01:12:35,756 --> 01:12:37,176
they popped

1750
01:12:37,176 --> 01:12:40,196
where are these ads coming from

1751
01:12:40,196 --> 01:12:42,616
yeah so they just announced

1752
01:12:42,616 --> 01:12:44,456
that they caught the guy who killed Charlie

1753
01:12:44,456 --> 01:12:46,596
Kirk this week I had never even heard

1754
01:12:46,596 --> 01:12:50,976
of this guy, Charlie Kirk, to be honest, until somebody brought him up in the lab.

1755
01:12:51,156 --> 01:12:52,016
I'd seen him around.

1756
01:12:52,456 --> 01:12:56,956
I didn't even know he existed. And then somebody was like, no, he's the mean guy. And I was like,

1757
01:12:56,996 --> 01:13:04,436
oh, that's him. And then that's when I recognized his face. But yeah, really sad, sad story.

1758
01:13:05,176 --> 01:13:14,936
Left behind a family, kids. Tragic, dude. Just so tragic because I can imagine what's going on

1759
01:13:14,936 --> 01:13:16,276
with like the family and stuff.

1760
01:13:16,376 --> 01:13:19,216
And now the kids are going to grow up without a dad

1761
01:13:19,216 --> 01:13:22,876
and like the amount of, yeah,

1762
01:13:22,956 --> 01:13:25,076
I just can't imagine like what that's going to do

1763
01:13:25,076 --> 01:13:27,436
to the kids growing up and how that's going to,

1764
01:13:28,576 --> 01:13:29,756
yeah, it's just sad to see

1765
01:13:29,756 --> 01:13:31,376
whenever some kind of tragedy happens

1766
01:13:31,376 --> 01:13:32,236
in a family like that.

1767
01:13:32,276 --> 01:13:34,516
That's the type of thing that like sticks around

1768
01:13:34,516 --> 01:13:35,216
for generations.

1769
01:13:35,216 --> 01:13:40,376
It just doesn't like, it just doesn't stop there.

1770
01:13:40,476 --> 01:13:41,856
It's like generational hurt.

1771
01:13:42,636 --> 01:13:44,056
That's the tragic thing about it.

1772
01:13:44,056 --> 01:13:50,756
The only reason I know that is because my grandfather happened similar, something like that, where he got shot.

1773
01:13:51,256 --> 01:13:51,516
Oh.

1774
01:13:51,816 --> 01:13:52,036
Yeah.

1775
01:13:52,476 --> 01:13:56,976
So that's a generational thing that'll stick in the family for years to come.

1776
01:13:57,236 --> 01:14:00,256
You mean just as a story or like your parents?

1777
01:14:00,836 --> 01:14:02,316
That was what my parents would tell me.

1778
01:14:02,656 --> 01:14:02,956
I see.

1779
01:14:02,956 --> 01:14:03,496
Story, yeah.

1780
01:14:03,696 --> 01:14:04,676
So that's what I'm saying.

1781
01:14:04,836 --> 01:14:11,876
That's a thing that'll like, it's like a story that they'll tell for generations.

1782
01:14:11,876 --> 01:14:19,536
so that's i feel sorry for the family and for the kids kids and it's just sad dude it's so sad

1783
01:14:19,536 --> 01:14:27,116
um so um yeah so they caught the suspect uh the suspect in the killing was identified as

1784
01:14:27,116 --> 01:14:34,156
tyler robinson uh he's being held without bail um on several charges um he's not talking to

1785
01:14:34,156 --> 01:14:40,996
investigators apparently from what cnn's saying apparently the uh the father uh became convinced

1786
01:14:40,996 --> 01:14:43,956
So the 22, he was 22, was a shooter.

1787
01:14:44,076 --> 01:14:46,216
It was after seeing photos shared by authorities.

1788
01:14:47,956 --> 01:14:50,036
And then that's when they turned him in.

1789
01:14:50,456 --> 01:14:52,876
The suspect initially balked at surrendering,

1790
01:14:53,136 --> 01:14:55,736
but then was persuaded to talk to a pastor

1791
01:14:55,736 --> 01:14:59,396
who works with law enforcement agencies, the sources said.

1792
01:14:59,832 --> 01:15:01,772
So it was like it was divine intervention there.

1793
01:15:02,712 --> 01:15:07,972
Investigator discovered a bolt action rifle wrapped in a towel and inscriptions, including one that read,

1794
01:15:08,852 --> 01:15:13,032
Hey, fascist catch were engraved on the case.

1795
01:15:13,032 --> 01:15:14,632
It's found with the rifle.

1796
01:15:16,812 --> 01:15:17,452
Yeah.

1797
01:15:17,952 --> 01:15:20,492
So that's, that's basically what happened.

1798
01:15:23,492 --> 01:15:24,732
That's him right there.

1799
01:15:24,732 --> 01:15:29,232
looks like a normal

1800
01:15:29,232 --> 01:15:30,632
normal dude

1801
01:15:30,632 --> 01:15:31,792
normal

1802
01:15:31,792 --> 01:15:32,652
normal kid

1803
01:15:32,652 --> 01:15:33,912
sad

1804
01:15:33,912 --> 01:15:35,752
um

1805
01:15:35,752 --> 01:15:36,732
sad for

1806
01:15:36,732 --> 01:15:37,792
sad for him too

1807
01:15:37,792 --> 01:15:38,292
whatever

1808
01:15:38,292 --> 01:15:39,652
whatever got in his

1809
01:15:39,652 --> 01:15:40,712
mind that made

1810
01:15:40,712 --> 01:15:42,092
him want to hurt someone

1811
01:15:42,092 --> 01:15:42,932
yeah I mean

1812
01:15:42,932 --> 01:15:43,492
because it's like

1813
01:15:43,492 --> 01:15:44,152
you know he was

1814
01:15:44,152 --> 01:15:45,252
psyop too as well

1815
01:15:45,252 --> 01:15:46,212
like on the other side

1816
01:15:46,212 --> 01:15:47,272
or whatever he was thinking

1817
01:15:47,272 --> 01:15:47,652
and

1818
01:15:47,652 --> 01:15:49,572
it's too bad that he

1819
01:15:49,572 --> 01:15:51,472
he also fell into

1820
01:15:51,472 --> 01:15:52,232
some darkness

1821
01:15:52,232 --> 01:15:53,472
as well too

1822
01:15:53,472 --> 01:15:54,552
yeah

1823
01:15:54,552 --> 01:15:55,752
I don't think.

1824
01:15:56,132 --> 01:15:58,472
Because they said his dad was a sheriff too as well.

1825
01:15:59,252 --> 01:16:01,232
So, I mean, I feel bad for the parents too as well.

1826
01:16:01,352 --> 01:16:07,292
I mean, I'm sure the parents don't feel happy about that, you know.

1827
01:16:09,752 --> 01:16:11,492
Hopefully they collected the prize.

1828
01:16:11,852 --> 01:16:14,592
Because, you know, I don't know if you've ever had a sibling

1829
01:16:14,592 --> 01:16:16,792
or a family member that's done something horrific,

1830
01:16:17,552 --> 01:16:22,192
but that's not a reflection on the siblings or the mom or the dad.

1831
01:16:22,192 --> 01:16:24,712
That's, that's just, you know.

1832
01:16:25,012 --> 01:16:26,072
Sometimes it just happens.

1833
01:16:26,192 --> 01:16:28,552
Sometimes it is a reflection of the siblings and the mom and dad,

1834
01:16:28,772 --> 01:16:29,772
but sometimes it just happens.

1835
01:16:29,872 --> 01:16:30,812
Sometimes it just happens.

1836
01:16:30,972 --> 01:16:31,132
Yeah.

1837
01:16:31,812 --> 01:16:33,712
So yeah, it's just sad to see.

1838
01:16:33,872 --> 01:16:38,872
It's a good thing that the dad turned him in and Pastor was able to intervene.

1839
01:16:39,612 --> 01:16:39,752
Yeah.

1840
01:16:40,592 --> 01:16:41,992
So just sad all the way around.

1841
01:16:42,292 --> 01:16:45,952
The other thing I wanted to bring up was this post by Kepford.

1842
01:16:45,992 --> 01:16:48,492
I thought this was a really good post from Kepford.

1843
01:16:49,112 --> 01:16:50,272
He posed the question,

1844
01:16:50,272 --> 01:16:52,592
is it wrong to be divisive?

1845
01:16:54,412 --> 01:16:56,292
This was on September 11th.

1846
01:16:56,292 --> 01:16:58,432
He says, he's divisive.

1847
01:16:58,532 --> 01:16:59,812
That was in quotations.

1848
01:16:59,992 --> 01:17:02,292
He said, this is something I have heard about Charlie Kirk.

1849
01:17:02,392 --> 01:17:03,812
Maybe that's a fair descriptor.

1850
01:17:04,312 --> 01:17:04,812
I don't know.

1851
01:17:04,912 --> 01:17:06,072
I was familiar with his work,

1852
01:17:06,152 --> 01:17:08,772
but I'm not interested in dissecting that at this time.

1853
01:17:09,372 --> 01:17:11,472
I'm not going to defend or lionize Kirk.

1854
01:17:11,572 --> 01:17:12,932
What happened to him is disgusting.

1855
01:17:13,072 --> 01:17:15,872
It makes my heart break for his family and our nation.

1856
01:17:16,532 --> 01:17:19,712
But this comment, he's divisive,

1857
01:17:19,712 --> 01:17:25,672
got me thinking. I often hear this word used as a way to get people to ignore someone saying things

1858
01:17:25,672 --> 01:17:30,572
they don't like or agree with, a way to quickly dismiss someone as a troublemaker. And then he

1859
01:17:30,572 --> 01:17:35,732
goes on to say some things about Christianity and about following Jesus and about how Jesus was

1860
01:17:35,732 --> 01:17:43,992
divisive as well. So Kian, I guess I'll ask you this. Is it wrong to be divisive?

1861
01:17:43,992 --> 01:17:50,132
uh i don't think it's wrong to be divisive i think there are i think you should if you're

1862
01:17:50,132 --> 01:17:56,692
going to be divisive you should be uh aware in touch with the consequences of it i don't i don't

1863
01:17:56,692 --> 01:18:00,672
think i don't think uh if i were divisive or anyone's divisive they should expect to get shot

1864
01:18:00,672 --> 01:18:04,812
and killed over it but you should expect people to be upset at you for being divisive that's kind

1865
01:18:04,812 --> 01:18:11,072
of like one of the known results of it um yeah i don't think i don't think him being divisive

1866
01:18:11,072 --> 01:18:14,072
is like an excuse for violence.

1867
01:18:14,792 --> 01:18:17,932
It's a lot like when people say,

1868
01:18:18,492 --> 01:18:20,612
you know, if you didn't want to be raped,

1869
01:18:20,672 --> 01:18:22,052
you shouldn't have dressed like that.

1870
01:18:22,312 --> 01:18:25,352
Like dressing, it's kind of a kind of similar thing.

1871
01:18:25,512 --> 01:18:29,252
Like I don't think someone dressing provocatively

1872
01:18:29,252 --> 01:18:32,012
justifies someone raping them.

1873
01:18:32,012 --> 01:18:35,132
Someone being divisive doesn't justify someone

1874
01:18:35,132 --> 01:18:37,052
committing violence against them.

1875
01:18:37,732 --> 01:18:39,852
So kind of similar thing.

1876
01:18:39,852 --> 01:18:42,072
I think it's not wrong to be divisive.

1877
01:18:42,632 --> 01:18:44,972
It's not wrong to dress the way that you want,

1878
01:18:45,172 --> 01:18:46,372
but I think in either case,

1879
01:18:46,412 --> 01:18:48,312
you need to be aware of the consequences

1880
01:18:48,312 --> 01:18:51,712
and that it attracts a certain type of person

1881
01:18:51,712 --> 01:18:56,352
who might be violent and prepare yourself for it.

1882
01:18:57,332 --> 01:18:59,492
But yeah, that's just like out of your control

1883
01:18:59,492 --> 01:19:01,752
as a person who wants to be divisive.

1884
01:19:02,012 --> 01:19:04,712
That's just the context in which you live,

1885
01:19:04,772 --> 01:19:05,292
the environment.

1886
01:19:05,292 --> 01:19:22,952
Yeah, I think, um, I definitely think now is a time to be divisive. I think there was a time when, you know, you probably didn't need to be divisive. I think now is definitely a time to be divisive. I don't think, I don't think everybody is in a position to be divisive, to be honest.

1887
01:19:22,952 --> 01:19:25,792
but I do think there is a definitely,

1888
01:19:25,792 --> 01:19:31,312
if you're a young man who is seeing a lot of this kind of like

1889
01:19:31,312 --> 01:19:38,212
just craziness in the world and you need to stand up and talk about these

1890
01:19:38,212 --> 01:19:42,672
things. Like, I think even the poor kid that, that shot the guy,

1891
01:19:42,772 --> 01:19:48,572
like he needs to, he should have voiced his opinions. Like, you know,

1892
01:19:48,592 --> 01:19:51,932
he didn't have to result in killing somebody.

1893
01:19:51,932 --> 01:19:54,312
It's never right to kill somebody over anything.

1894
01:19:54,852 --> 01:19:57,872
It's just the wrong way to go about things.

1895
01:19:58,432 --> 01:19:59,692
Except in self-defense, maybe.

1896
01:20:00,292 --> 01:20:01,292
But do you know what I mean?

1897
01:20:02,172 --> 01:20:06,092
This is why it's so important to meet people where they're at

1898
01:20:06,092 --> 01:20:10,292
and have a conversation about these things.

1899
01:20:10,552 --> 01:20:12,492
It's just all this could have been avoided.

1900
01:20:14,892 --> 01:20:17,652
And yeah, I don't think it's wrong to be divisive.

1901
01:20:17,732 --> 01:20:20,232
I think you should be talking about these things.

1902
01:20:20,692 --> 01:20:21,552
You should meet people.

1903
01:20:21,552 --> 01:20:23,772
we should have more conversations about this stuff.

1904
01:20:25,452 --> 01:20:28,192
I think, I think, I think I do agree with you.

1905
01:20:28,252 --> 01:20:29,572
I think in history, it has taught us,

1906
01:20:29,652 --> 01:20:32,852
even if you do say something in an eloquent, eloquent way,

1907
01:20:32,892 --> 01:20:35,612
and it's really profound and it's like,

1908
01:20:35,672 --> 01:20:37,132
and it actually moves people

1909
01:20:37,132 --> 01:20:39,552
and actually pushes the human race forward,

1910
01:20:39,952 --> 01:20:41,172
there is a really good chance

1911
01:20:41,172 --> 01:20:42,292
you are going to piss somebody off,

1912
01:20:42,352 --> 01:20:44,452
even the, even still by doing that.

1913
01:20:44,512 --> 01:20:48,012
And history has proven that to be the truth as well too.

1914
01:20:48,112 --> 01:20:51,492
Like you can look at any people in America's past

1915
01:20:51,492 --> 01:20:52,872
where they also got shot.

1916
01:20:53,092 --> 01:20:54,832
Like that is a thing.

1917
01:20:55,052 --> 01:20:57,312
So it doesn't matter how these words come out

1918
01:20:57,312 --> 01:20:59,992
or whether you use venom or not.

1919
01:21:00,072 --> 01:21:04,272
It's still a thing that can happen.

1920
01:21:05,272 --> 01:21:11,592
And so I think you just got to be aware of the situation

1921
01:21:11,592 --> 01:21:14,312
of what you're being divisive about.

1922
01:21:14,312 --> 01:21:17,832
And if you really do feel that kind of call to say something,

1923
01:21:18,292 --> 01:21:19,372
you should speak up.

1924
01:21:19,372 --> 01:21:25,732
I think for me personally, I've always spoken up for something that I truly believe in.

1925
01:21:26,012 --> 01:21:31,872
I won't do that unless I actually believe in the thing that I'm saying, even when other people don't agree with me.

1926
01:21:31,952 --> 01:21:35,612
But if I feel the call, the need to say something, I will say something.

1927
01:21:35,712 --> 01:21:38,252
I don't care if I'm the only person that's saying it.

1928
01:21:39,792 --> 01:21:47,052
But I think it's very important that we don't move away from saying the things that need to be said just because of this.

1929
01:21:47,052 --> 01:21:59,810
I think this is I think if there anything that comes from this is to be more divisive That what I would say is to say what you what needs to be said But also if you that other person on the other side of this divisiveness

1930
01:22:00,190 --> 01:22:03,650
go out and meet them halfway and have a conversation with them.

1931
01:22:04,230 --> 01:22:07,210
Don't respond with anger or don't respond.

1932
01:22:07,350 --> 01:22:12,210
Be divisive too. But from the other side of the argument, be divisive back.

1933
01:22:12,310 --> 01:22:13,630
Don't be violent back.

1934
01:22:14,050 --> 01:22:18,130
Exactly. So I thought this was a great post by Kepford.

1935
01:22:18,370 --> 01:22:22,950
I actually don't think you need it. I don't think I'm not, I don't think,

1936
01:22:23,010 --> 01:22:28,010
I don't think divisiveness is a virtue. So that's one area I would say I would push back.

1937
01:22:28,070 --> 01:22:34,510
I don't think divisiveness is, is necessarily a virtue. I think, I think it's a way to communicate

1938
01:22:34,510 --> 01:22:40,030
that gets a lot of attention, which might have value, but I don't think anyone should aim to

1939
01:22:40,030 --> 01:22:44,550
divide people, which is kind of fundamentally what divisiveness means is you are speaking

1940
01:22:44,550 --> 01:22:49,010
in a way that separates people more than they need to.

1941
01:22:49,890 --> 01:22:53,010
And so I don't associate that with virtue.

1942
01:22:53,170 --> 01:22:55,930
I think it might be the truth.

1943
01:22:55,930 --> 01:22:59,490
If you're speaking the truth and it happens to be divisive,

1944
01:22:59,610 --> 01:23:00,710
I think that's okay.

1945
01:23:01,650 --> 01:23:02,850
Speaking the truth is a virtue.

1946
01:23:03,570 --> 01:23:06,750
But I think speaking about things in a way

1947
01:23:06,750 --> 01:23:08,110
that don't need to be divisive,

1948
01:23:08,530 --> 01:23:09,730
putting them in a divisive way,

1949
01:23:09,790 --> 01:23:10,790
I think that isn't a virtue.

1950
01:23:12,690 --> 01:23:13,130
Cool.

1951
01:23:13,430 --> 01:23:13,590
Yeah.

1952
01:23:14,550 --> 01:23:17,490
That's all the stories that we had this week.

1953
01:23:17,570 --> 01:23:23,370
I think the other stuff we're going to get into is pretty much the zine.

1954
01:23:23,850 --> 01:23:27,270
Or should we do the, I guess we should do the grand prize winner.

1955
01:23:27,690 --> 01:23:27,990
Oh, yeah.

1956
01:23:27,990 --> 01:23:28,630
There was two.

1957
01:23:29,010 --> 01:23:30,370
We're going to get into meta stuff now.

1958
01:23:30,370 --> 01:23:32,970
So Stacker News Fiction Month prizes.

1959
01:23:33,370 --> 01:23:37,890
This was given out according to ZapRank.

1960
01:23:37,990 --> 01:23:40,030
So the top, I think it was like for that month,

1961
01:23:40,270 --> 01:23:42,990
the things in ZapRank that rank the highest,

1962
01:23:42,990 --> 01:23:48,490
the top 10 got 10,000 sats zap to them.

1963
01:23:48,610 --> 01:23:51,970
I'm surprised Bitcoin dog is not number one there.

1964
01:23:52,010 --> 01:23:52,710
Oh, he is though.

1965
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:53,650
Oh, is he? Okay.

1966
01:23:53,850 --> 01:23:55,690
Yeah. Talent show shakeup. It's right there.

1967
01:23:55,790 --> 01:23:56,090
Oh, okay.

1968
01:23:56,270 --> 01:24:01,010
Yeah. So, yeah, I don't, I don't, you know,

1969
01:24:01,010 --> 01:24:04,650
ZapRank is not really well suited for this type of contest purpose.

1970
01:24:04,890 --> 01:24:07,270
So I don't, I wouldn't take, if anyone is like,

1971
01:24:07,390 --> 01:24:09,230
my story should be there. It's not there.

1972
01:24:09,230 --> 01:24:13,710
I would not take this as like a sign of your,

1973
01:24:13,870 --> 01:24:14,930
the worth of your story.

1974
01:24:15,530 --> 01:24:15,730
So.

1975
01:24:16,390 --> 01:24:16,630
Yeah.

1976
01:24:16,630 --> 01:24:18,730
It looks like everybody was confused about the.

1977
01:24:19,770 --> 01:24:20,210
Yeah.

1978
01:24:20,270 --> 01:24:21,070
The civil fee.

1979
01:24:21,490 --> 01:24:21,930
Yeah.

1980
01:24:21,950 --> 01:24:25,030
The civil fee tends to confuse people because they don't,

1981
01:24:25,170 --> 01:24:28,270
they don't understand the need for it.

1982
01:24:29,970 --> 01:24:30,670
But that,

1983
01:24:30,670 --> 01:24:31,190
that was part,

1984
01:24:31,270 --> 01:24:32,130
that was part of the confusion.

1985
01:24:32,130 --> 01:24:33,330
But I think the more,

1986
01:24:33,430 --> 01:24:33,610
I mean,

1987
01:24:33,610 --> 01:24:39,090
we had nearly 60 entries and only 10 of them got into this top

1988
01:24:39,090 --> 01:24:41,130
area. So I just

1989
01:24:41,130 --> 01:24:42,990
want to say that, but congrats to everyone

1990
01:24:42,990 --> 01:24:45,070
who won here. And then we also, the other

1991
01:24:45,070 --> 01:24:46,870
side of the prize is they gave out

1992
01:24:46,870 --> 01:24:49,030
the grand prize

1993
01:24:49,030 --> 01:24:51,050
winner. The grand prize winner, which was human

1994
01:24:51,050 --> 01:24:52,950
judged rather than algorithmically

1995
01:24:52,950 --> 01:24:53,470
judged,

1996
01:24:54,110 --> 01:24:56,810
was this one.

1997
01:24:57,010 --> 01:24:58,910
Billy the Ked. I don't even remember

1998
01:24:58,910 --> 01:25:00,890
this one, to be honest. I don't even

1999
01:25:00,890 --> 01:25:02,730
remember even seeing this one at all.

2000
01:25:04,190 --> 01:25:04,850
I don't even remember

2001
01:25:04,850 --> 01:25:06,810
seeing this. That's how you know

2002
01:25:06,810 --> 01:25:08,210
the judges read all of them.

2003
01:25:09,090 --> 01:25:10,970
No one commented on it.

2004
01:25:13,010 --> 01:25:15,450
Yeah, it has multiple parts to it.

2005
01:25:15,610 --> 01:25:16,070
Oh, okay.

2006
01:25:16,290 --> 01:25:18,710
Yeah, but all the judges like this one the best.

2007
01:25:18,810 --> 01:25:19,610
We have three judges.

2008
01:25:19,850 --> 01:25:20,230
Is this part two?

2009
01:25:21,950 --> 01:25:25,790
I think there are references to poems.

2010
01:25:26,290 --> 01:25:27,310
Oh, this is part one.

2011
01:25:27,390 --> 01:25:29,450
This is continuing, yeah, part one.

2012
01:25:29,590 --> 01:25:30,050
Oh, okay.

2013
01:25:30,770 --> 01:25:33,090
I think they went on a little bit with it.

2014
01:25:33,150 --> 01:25:33,730
I'll check it out.

2015
01:25:33,790 --> 01:25:34,950
I'll read this at some point.

2016
01:25:35,010 --> 01:25:35,830
Let me bookmark it.

2017
01:25:35,830 --> 01:25:38,890
Yeah, so that one, this one won 100,000 sat.

2018
01:25:38,890 --> 01:25:45,450
prize what was this about uh i did not i have still not read this one no one i'm not the judge

2019
01:25:45,450 --> 01:25:51,470
no one read the grand prize story not no we have two people here the judge has read all

2020
01:25:51,470 --> 01:25:56,430
just gorsby and siggy read the grand prize story this one is this one i've bookmarked i need to

2021
01:25:56,430 --> 01:26:00,230
get it's like most there should have been like a people's there's this is just me talking about

2022
01:26:00,230 --> 01:26:05,070
my butt so don't listen to me guys there should have been a people's choice award thousand thousand

2023
01:26:05,070 --> 01:26:06,150
sat people choice award.

2024
01:26:06,790 --> 01:26:08,630
That's kind of what the ZapRank one was.

2025
01:26:08,670 --> 01:26:09,090
Oh, okay.

2026
01:26:09,570 --> 01:26:09,810
Yeah.

2027
01:26:10,130 --> 01:26:11,490
But it's kind of hard to do.

2028
01:26:11,810 --> 01:26:12,070
Yeah.

2029
01:26:13,350 --> 01:26:16,390
ZapRank measures things that aren't intended to be measured.

2030
01:26:16,390 --> 01:26:18,190
I guess everybody liked Billy the Kid one.

2031
01:26:18,410 --> 01:26:19,330
Or Siggy and...

2032
01:26:19,330 --> 01:26:20,070
Looks like Siggy and...

2033
01:26:20,770 --> 01:26:22,930
And Scores would be like Billy the Kid.

2034
01:26:24,010 --> 01:26:24,190
I suppose.

2035
01:26:25,090 --> 01:26:26,670
They all read all the stories

2036
01:26:26,670 --> 01:26:28,390
and they decided this was the one that

2037
01:26:28,390 --> 01:26:31,670
I think met the details of the prom best

2038
01:26:31,670 --> 01:26:33,010
and that they liked the most.

2039
01:26:33,130 --> 01:26:33,370
Yes.

2040
01:26:33,370 --> 01:26:35,610
pretty cool stuff

2041
01:26:35,610 --> 01:26:37,490
I think my favorite one was

2042
01:26:37,490 --> 01:26:39,610
Real Bitcoin Doggy's post

2043
01:26:39,610 --> 01:26:40,870
I think that was freaking awesome

2044
01:26:40,870 --> 01:26:43,250
he really kept it

2045
01:26:43,250 --> 01:26:44,830
he really kept it professional

2046
01:26:44,830 --> 01:26:46,370
I don't know if he saw any of his posts

2047
01:26:46,370 --> 01:26:48,230
let me see if I can go to it

2048
01:26:48,230 --> 01:26:49,310
where was it at

2049
01:26:49,310 --> 01:26:51,790
he kept it professional with all his posts

2050
01:26:51,790 --> 01:26:53,110
where is it at

2051
01:26:53,110 --> 01:26:54,370
let me go here this week

2052
01:26:54,370 --> 01:26:57,390
I think he talked about his

2053
01:26:57,390 --> 01:26:59,810
he also references himself in the third person

2054
01:26:59,810 --> 01:27:00,590
which you guys shared

2055
01:27:00,590 --> 01:27:01,250
I'm common

2056
01:27:01,250 --> 01:27:05,950
He goes

2057
01:27:05,950 --> 01:27:08,270
9th place acceptance speech

2058
01:27:08,270 --> 01:27:12,350
He goes real Bitcoin dog

2059
01:27:12,350 --> 01:27:13,450
wins top 10

2060
01:27:13,450 --> 01:27:16,650
talent show shake up real Bitcoin dog

2061
01:27:16,650 --> 01:27:18,490
Yeah he goes

2062
01:27:18,490 --> 01:27:20,770
honored, he goes I'm honored to be in this group

2063
01:27:20,770 --> 01:27:22,770
He basically

2064
01:27:22,770 --> 01:27:24,490
said that he had to do a lot of

2065
01:27:24,490 --> 01:27:25,430
pawing to get up there

2066
01:27:25,430 --> 01:27:28,590
He wants to know if you actually

2067
01:27:28,590 --> 01:27:30,810
read his, did you read his

2068
01:27:31,250 --> 01:27:32,070
his thing?

2069
01:27:32,610 --> 01:27:33,130
Did you read his?

2070
01:27:33,230 --> 01:27:33,730
He wants to know.

2071
01:27:33,730 --> 01:27:35,110
I read a handful of stories.

2072
01:27:35,390 --> 01:27:36,450
Did you read his story though?

2073
01:27:37,130 --> 01:27:38,470
I did not read his story.

2074
01:27:38,650 --> 01:27:39,910
Are you going to read a story now

2075
01:27:39,910 --> 01:27:41,510
that he placed number nine though?

2076
01:27:41,630 --> 01:27:42,810
Because like it's a big deal,

2077
01:27:42,930 --> 01:27:43,110
Keon,

2078
01:27:43,210 --> 01:27:44,090
like he's number nine.

2079
01:27:44,350 --> 01:27:45,370
I'm not sure that

2080
01:27:45,370 --> 01:27:47,210
obligates me to read the story.

2081
01:27:47,730 --> 01:27:48,870
It's when I see people talking,

2082
01:27:48,990 --> 01:27:49,810
it's like when you talk

2083
01:27:49,810 --> 01:27:50,430
in third person,

2084
01:27:50,530 --> 01:27:51,330
I like zone out.

2085
01:27:51,470 --> 01:27:52,130
I don't hear a word.

2086
01:27:52,210 --> 01:27:53,110
I don't hear a word you say.

2087
01:27:53,170 --> 01:27:54,490
It's like this guy is on one.

2088
01:27:54,830 --> 01:27:55,590
Something's going on.

2089
01:27:56,150 --> 01:27:56,330
I don't,

2090
01:27:56,430 --> 01:27:57,270
he's real Bitcoin dog.

2091
01:27:57,430 --> 01:27:57,850
I mean,

2092
01:27:57,850 --> 01:27:58,470
you got to,

2093
01:27:58,550 --> 01:27:59,290
you got to do the same thing

2094
01:27:59,290 --> 01:27:59,990
you did last week.

2095
01:27:59,990 --> 01:28:01,570
I'm just saying

2096
01:28:01,570 --> 01:28:04,210
Keon is not going to read your story

2097
01:28:04,210 --> 01:28:05,990
My plan is to go through and read

2098
01:28:05,990 --> 01:28:07,350
most of them

2099
01:28:07,350 --> 01:28:10,290
He talks about Stacker News the whole way through

2100
01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:11,830
That's even worse

2101
01:28:11,830 --> 01:28:13,190
It's actually a really good story

2102
01:28:13,190 --> 01:28:14,090
It could be made into a movie

2103
01:28:14,090 --> 01:28:16,730
I don't want to read a story about Stacker News

2104
01:28:16,730 --> 01:28:18,250
It could be made into a movie

2105
01:28:18,250 --> 01:28:21,810
I wouldn't be surprised if Real Bitcoin Doggy

2106
01:28:21,810 --> 01:28:23,670
gets optioned for this story

2107
01:28:23,670 --> 01:28:25,170
Wow

2108
01:28:25,170 --> 01:28:26,790
Netflix might pick this up

2109
01:28:26,790 --> 01:28:29,810
I don't believe you're telling

2110
01:28:29,810 --> 01:28:31,970
and I think you're being silly.

2111
01:28:33,410 --> 01:28:34,810
It's all silly.

2112
01:28:34,810 --> 01:28:35,990
It's all silly.

2113
01:28:35,990 --> 01:28:37,470
Anyway, I thought this was great.

2114
01:28:37,470 --> 01:28:39,130
He even tried to get-

2115
01:28:39,130 --> 01:28:40,050
He's got abs now.

2116
01:28:40,050 --> 01:28:51,988
He even tried to get Pleb Poet to read it Apparently she did Yeah talking to Pleb Poet she was upset She thought real bad Oh really was cheating a little bit Why Well because he like

2117
01:28:51,988 --> 01:28:52,708
went on to Twitter

2118
01:28:52,708 --> 01:28:53,248
and he's like,

2119
01:28:53,328 --> 01:28:54,528
comment on my...

2120
01:28:54,528 --> 01:28:55,408
Oh, wow.

2121
01:28:55,468 --> 01:28:56,148
Comment on my post,

2122
01:28:56,208 --> 01:28:56,888
I'll zap you.

2123
01:28:57,948 --> 01:28:58,708
So he was like,

2124
01:28:59,168 --> 01:28:59,528
I mean,

2125
01:28:59,668 --> 01:29:00,928
doing like fake engagement

2126
01:29:00,928 --> 01:29:01,468
and stuff.

2127
01:29:01,648 --> 01:29:01,948
I mean,

2128
01:29:02,028 --> 01:29:03,848
sounds like he needs

2129
01:29:03,848 --> 01:29:04,608
to do that for you.

2130
01:29:04,988 --> 01:29:05,848
It's like excluded.

2131
01:29:05,968 --> 01:29:07,268
It was not part of the rules

2132
01:29:07,268 --> 01:29:08,748
that you couldn't do that.

2133
01:29:08,868 --> 01:29:09,368
Shoot or shoot.

2134
01:29:10,068 --> 01:29:10,428
Anyways,

2135
01:29:10,428 --> 01:29:13,348
really good stuff. I think it's fantastic

2136
01:29:13,348 --> 01:29:15,528
that Billy Kidd won.

2137
01:29:16,468 --> 01:29:17,608
It's fantastic that

2138
01:29:17,608 --> 01:29:19,628
Plutpo got second and third, right?

2139
01:29:20,808 --> 01:29:22,128
I think so.

2140
01:29:22,208 --> 01:29:24,008
Yeah. Pluttastic that she won.

2141
01:29:24,088 --> 01:29:25,808
All the other winners, Real Bitcoin Dog number

2142
01:29:25,808 --> 01:29:27,728
nine. Might get an option as a

2143
01:29:27,728 --> 01:29:28,868
Netflix story. You never know.

2144
01:29:29,708 --> 01:29:31,408
And just Keyon is the only one that hasn't read it.

2145
01:29:31,828 --> 01:29:33,688
Definitely won't. I think most people probably

2146
01:29:33,688 --> 01:29:34,368
haven't read it.

2147
01:29:37,468 --> 01:29:38,828
I'm not even sure you read it.

2148
01:29:39,048 --> 01:29:39,828
No, I did read it.

2149
01:29:39,828 --> 01:29:40,388
I did read it.

2150
01:29:40,408 --> 01:29:41,028
It's really good.

2151
01:29:41,328 --> 01:29:42,348
Even Grey Ruby read it.

2152
01:29:42,368 --> 01:29:43,188
He's in the story.

2153
01:29:43,608 --> 01:29:44,168
Well, Grey, yeah.

2154
01:29:44,248 --> 01:29:46,308
Grey Ruby and Real Bitcoin Dog,

2155
01:29:46,408 --> 01:29:46,828
they're like,

2156
01:29:47,148 --> 01:29:48,468
they're almost like undisciplined

2157
01:29:48,468 --> 01:29:49,028
in Grey Ruby.

2158
01:29:49,748 --> 01:29:50,388
That's great.

2159
01:29:50,648 --> 01:29:51,288
They're pretty thick as thieves.

2160
01:29:51,508 --> 01:29:52,248
Anyway, we're going to jump

2161
01:29:52,248 --> 01:29:55,268
into Play Poets Zine number 25.

2162
01:29:56,288 --> 01:29:57,328
Kian, did you check this out?

2163
01:29:57,588 --> 01:29:57,888
Yeah.

2164
01:29:58,048 --> 01:30:00,408
So we have the Zine now.

2165
01:30:01,188 --> 01:30:02,128
It has a yellow cover

2166
01:30:02,128 --> 01:30:02,948
and white pages.

2167
01:30:03,148 --> 01:30:03,768
Looks really good.

2168
01:30:04,408 --> 01:30:04,708
Yeah.

2169
01:30:04,708 --> 01:30:06,408
And there's a game in here.

2170
01:30:07,488 --> 01:30:08,268
There's a game?

2171
01:30:08,608 --> 01:30:08,828
Yeah.

2172
01:30:08,968 --> 01:30:09,748
A crossword puzzle game?

2173
01:30:09,828 --> 01:30:12,968
It's like, yeah, it's a crossword puzzle.

2174
01:30:15,208 --> 01:30:18,448
No, it's like a find a word game this week.

2175
01:30:19,348 --> 01:30:24,048
We have the results or the answers for the crossword puzzle the week before.

2176
01:30:24,048 --> 01:30:24,908
From the week before.

2177
01:30:25,088 --> 01:30:26,008
Cool stuff.

2178
01:30:26,288 --> 01:30:26,548
Yeah.

2179
01:30:26,928 --> 01:30:28,508
Simple stackers, top post there.

2180
01:30:29,288 --> 01:30:29,568
Yeah.

2181
01:30:29,708 --> 01:30:31,288
It's really coming together, I think.

2182
01:30:31,288 --> 01:30:33,768
It looks more official now with the classifieds.

2183
01:30:33,828 --> 01:30:34,548
Look at that.

2184
01:30:34,568 --> 01:30:34,728
Yeah.

2185
01:30:34,728 --> 01:30:35,648
Go Packy logo.

2186
01:30:36,048 --> 01:30:36,968
Classified on the back.

2187
01:30:37,048 --> 01:30:38,848
Get a rest in peace, Charlie Kirk there.

2188
01:30:38,848 --> 01:30:40,948
Well, we took two squares.

2189
01:30:41,588 --> 01:30:43,228
Hey, I'm supporting y'all's classified section.

2190
01:30:43,428 --> 01:30:43,648
Yeah.

2191
01:30:43,748 --> 01:30:44,188
You're welcome.

2192
01:30:45,468 --> 01:30:47,368
Yeah, that's awesome.

2193
01:30:47,548 --> 01:30:48,768
Agora is supporting you too.

2194
01:30:48,968 --> 01:30:50,408
We have two Charlie Kirk messages.

2195
01:30:50,568 --> 01:30:51,728
Someone said smile more.

2196
01:30:52,488 --> 01:30:52,928
I don't know.

2197
01:30:53,368 --> 01:30:54,128
Are they talking to you?

2198
01:30:54,348 --> 01:30:54,928
Probably EK.

2199
01:30:55,408 --> 01:30:56,548
Probably EK said smile more.

2200
01:30:57,228 --> 01:30:58,788
Look at all these supporters of the zine.

2201
01:30:59,348 --> 01:31:00,688
Look at all these supporters of the zine.

2202
01:31:01,468 --> 01:31:01,968
Look at that.

2203
01:31:02,308 --> 01:31:04,208
Snacker Muse territory supporting you.

2204
01:31:05,108 --> 01:31:05,868
Yeah, that's cool.

2205
01:31:05,868 --> 01:31:07,128
All right, you're creative writing.

2206
01:31:07,688 --> 01:31:08,508
Go on Agora.

2207
01:31:08,508 --> 01:31:12,748
Stack Sats, SimpleStacker said stay humble with Stack Sats, BlockHeight.

2208
01:31:13,048 --> 01:31:14,508
Sell some stuff on Agora.

2209
01:31:15,008 --> 01:31:16,688
Got Startup Day promoting there.

2210
01:31:17,068 --> 01:31:17,728
Good stuff.

2211
01:31:18,188 --> 01:31:19,468
Yeah, I like the classifieds thing.

2212
01:31:19,608 --> 01:31:20,528
Maybe we'll do...

2213
01:31:20,528 --> 01:31:20,848
Yeah.

2214
01:31:21,148 --> 01:31:21,688
Keep doing it.

2215
01:31:21,688 --> 01:31:22,348
Get your copy.

2216
01:31:22,548 --> 01:31:25,608
If you want to read the web version, it's all here in the GitHub.

2217
01:31:27,088 --> 01:31:27,768
The GitHub.

2218
01:31:29,448 --> 01:31:31,048
If it loads, it'll load.

2219
01:31:31,208 --> 01:31:32,348
It's a pretty big one.

2220
01:31:32,448 --> 01:31:34,688
It's like 18 megabytes.

2221
01:31:35,208 --> 01:31:35,528
Cool.

2222
01:31:35,528 --> 01:31:38,208
looks like we got some

2223
01:31:38,208 --> 01:31:40,208
where is it at we got some fountain boost this week

2224
01:31:40,208 --> 01:31:43,348
got blockchain books said

2225
01:31:43,348 --> 01:31:46,128
actually we forgot to do cowboys let's do cowboys first

2226
01:31:46,128 --> 01:31:47,108
and then we'll jump into that

2227
01:31:47,108 --> 01:31:49,808
cowboys baby

2228
01:31:49,808 --> 01:31:51,888
where's cowboys top

2229
01:31:51,888 --> 01:31:54,488
cowboys of the week

2230
01:31:54,488 --> 01:31:55,968
giddy on up this is

2231
01:31:55,968 --> 01:31:58,348
we got a ciggy 47 with the

2232
01:31:58,348 --> 01:32:00,128
number one cowboy

2233
01:32:00,128 --> 01:32:01,148
he's going

2234
01:32:01,148 --> 01:32:04,948
see he's doing that right now

2235
01:32:04,948 --> 01:32:06,208
No, I don't see it.

2236
01:32:06,268 --> 01:32:07,148
He's not doing it.

2237
01:32:08,148 --> 01:32:08,488
You're doing it.

2238
01:32:10,048 --> 01:32:10,928
Top cowboy.

2239
01:32:11,108 --> 01:32:11,708
They got Coob.

2240
01:32:12,248 --> 01:32:12,668
Coob.

2241
01:32:13,168 --> 01:32:13,428
Coob.

2242
01:32:14,008 --> 01:32:14,268
Coob.

2243
01:32:14,728 --> 01:32:15,208
Undiscipline.

2244
01:32:15,728 --> 01:32:16,508
Blockchain Book.

2245
01:32:17,188 --> 01:32:17,708
Grey Ruby.

2246
01:32:18,308 --> 01:32:18,788
Coins Reporter.

2247
01:32:19,048 --> 01:32:20,548
All the top stackers running out.

2248
01:32:20,588 --> 01:32:21,048
Top five.

2249
01:32:21,148 --> 01:32:21,548
Coins Reporter.

2250
01:32:21,648 --> 01:32:22,088
Public Enemy.

2251
01:32:22,728 --> 01:32:23,628
Number eight, Hiding.

2252
01:32:23,908 --> 01:32:25,408
Wait, that wasn't Hiding last week, was it?

2253
01:32:27,508 --> 01:32:28,728
I don't think it was.

2254
01:32:29,348 --> 01:32:30,248
I think it was.

2255
01:32:30,248 --> 01:32:31,408
I think there's always been someone

2256
01:32:31,408 --> 01:32:33,328
that's kind of high up there that hides.

2257
01:32:33,628 --> 01:32:34,308
Optimism's climbing.

2258
01:32:34,948 --> 01:32:37,208
Number 12, Scorchies climbing.

2259
01:32:38,128 --> 01:32:39,468
Number 14, Snacker and Hiding.

2260
01:32:40,108 --> 01:32:41,408
Yeah, GMD's up there.

2261
01:32:42,148 --> 01:32:42,548
OT.

2262
01:32:43,108 --> 01:32:43,808
Where's that QT?

2263
01:32:44,108 --> 01:32:44,428
OT.

2264
01:32:45,248 --> 01:32:46,168
Carter climbing.

2265
01:32:46,528 --> 01:32:46,888
Socks.

2266
01:32:47,888 --> 01:32:48,368
Socks.

2267
01:32:48,628 --> 01:32:49,608
He was 21 last week.

2268
01:32:49,648 --> 01:32:50,228
Right now he's 20.

2269
01:32:51,028 --> 01:32:52,548
Real Bitcoin doggy going up.

2270
01:32:53,008 --> 01:32:53,508
Going up.

2271
01:32:53,508 --> 01:32:54,448
Paul on his way.

2272
01:32:55,668 --> 01:32:57,088
Paul on his way to number one.

2273
01:32:58,368 --> 01:32:59,588
Catford, number 24.

2274
01:32:59,768 --> 01:33:01,128
Got EK, 26.

2275
01:33:02,348 --> 01:33:03,588
Yeah, look at that.

2276
01:33:03,588 --> 01:33:05,088
Any of these stick out to you, Keon?

2277
01:33:07,808 --> 01:33:12,048
I mean, it looks like there's not been a whole lot of movement,

2278
01:33:12,268 --> 01:33:14,768
but I can see some of them climbing up.

2279
01:33:15,108 --> 01:33:17,148
Surprise Pleppo, it's in position 50.

2280
01:33:17,668 --> 01:33:19,148
It's usually all the way at the bottom.

2281
01:33:19,888 --> 01:33:20,048
Yeah.

2282
01:33:20,168 --> 01:33:28,488
We got Moneyball in there, Jimmy Song, Max, Signal 312, Philippe.

2283
01:33:28,568 --> 01:33:30,148
We got Shock, number 70.

2284
01:33:30,148 --> 01:33:31,788
just in shock

2285
01:33:31,788 --> 01:33:32,148
that

2286
01:33:32,148 --> 01:33:33,168
nifty

2287
01:33:33,168 --> 01:33:33,688
nay

2288
01:33:33,688 --> 01:33:34,308
nine

2289
01:33:34,308 --> 01:33:35,428
nine

2290
01:33:35,428 --> 01:33:35,868
she has nine

2291
01:33:35,868 --> 01:33:36,308
accounts

2292
01:33:36,308 --> 01:33:37,268
that's what I

2293
01:33:37,268 --> 01:33:37,648
thought

2294
01:33:37,648 --> 01:33:38,908
when she posted

2295
01:33:38,908 --> 01:33:39,188
with him

2296
01:33:39,188 --> 01:33:39,548
she was like

2297
01:33:39,548 --> 01:33:40,068
no I lost

2298
01:33:40,068 --> 01:33:40,928
my twitter login

2299
01:33:40,928 --> 01:33:41,568
I don't know

2300
01:33:41,568 --> 01:33:42,368
or it doesn't

2301
01:33:42,368 --> 01:33:43,088
work or something

2302
01:33:43,088 --> 01:33:44,508
I don't know

2303
01:33:44,508 --> 01:33:45,828
I have to check

2304
01:33:45,828 --> 01:33:46,748
got the charlatan

2305
01:33:46,748 --> 01:33:47,948
who's the charlatan

2306
01:33:47,948 --> 01:33:48,708
that's near it

2307
01:33:48,708 --> 01:33:49,828
I don't know

2308
01:33:49,828 --> 01:33:50,248
phoenix

2309
01:33:50,248 --> 01:33:51,428
oh there's

2310
01:33:51,428 --> 01:33:51,828
oscar

2311
01:33:51,828 --> 01:33:53,528
hey

2312
01:33:53,528 --> 01:33:54,468
oscar

2313
01:33:54,468 --> 01:33:54,848
like

2314
01:33:54,848 --> 01:33:55,408
coin

2315
01:33:55,408 --> 01:33:56,828
fiat bad

2316
01:33:56,828 --> 01:33:57,308
oh there I am

2317
01:33:57,308 --> 01:33:57,848
96

2318
01:33:57,848 --> 01:33:59,408
oh cool

2319
01:33:59,408 --> 01:34:00,228
the mic

2320
01:34:00,228 --> 01:34:03,128
dead beef

2321
01:34:03,128 --> 01:34:04,348
and

2322
01:34:04,348 --> 01:34:06,348
who's the last one

2323
01:34:06,348 --> 01:34:08,028
a non-89

2324
01:34:08,028 --> 01:34:10,448
there you go that rounds out all the top

2325
01:34:10,448 --> 01:34:12,188
cowboys baby

2326
01:34:12,188 --> 01:34:13,188
that's number one

2327
01:34:13,188 --> 01:34:15,248
what do you call it

2328
01:34:15,248 --> 01:34:18,528
how do you say it's number one

2329
01:34:18,528 --> 01:34:20,648
segment number one segment in all of

2330
01:34:20,648 --> 01:34:22,588
bitcoin actually probably all

2331
01:34:22,588 --> 01:34:24,848
of segments probably as well

2332
01:34:24,848 --> 01:34:26,308
you include

2333
01:34:26,308 --> 01:34:28,428
segments from other places like

2334
01:34:28,428 --> 01:34:29,968
arts and crafts or

2335
01:34:29,968 --> 01:34:31,548
we got the

2336
01:34:31,548 --> 01:34:34,288
zaps from last week

2337
01:34:34,288 --> 01:34:36,208
blockchain boog said zap

2338
01:34:36,208 --> 01:34:38,748
he also said I agree car stop using telegram

2339
01:34:38,748 --> 01:34:39,448
for support

2340
01:34:39,448 --> 01:34:42,828
shooting from the hip boog that's all I do

2341
01:34:42,828 --> 01:34:43,628
oh

2342
01:34:43,628 --> 01:34:46,108
undisciplined said Coop's got riz

2343
01:34:46,108 --> 01:34:47,928
there you go Coop you got riz

2344
01:34:47,928 --> 01:34:50,108
I don't know I think I'm still

2345
01:34:50,108 --> 01:34:51,808
he's only got riz

2346
01:34:51,808 --> 01:34:54,248
still unbalanced he's only got riz on this podcast

2347
01:34:54,248 --> 01:34:54,968
undisciplined

2348
01:34:54,968 --> 01:34:57,488
you get him alone

2349
01:34:57,488 --> 01:34:59,028
He has no wrists

2350
01:34:59,028 --> 01:34:59,388
Yeah

2351
01:34:59,388 --> 01:35:00,748
No I don't have

2352
01:35:00,748 --> 01:35:01,648
You should have saw him

2353
01:35:01,648 --> 01:35:02,348
In front of Nick Carter

2354
01:35:02,348 --> 01:35:03,288
He had no wrists

2355
01:35:03,288 --> 01:35:04,368
What are you talking about

2356
01:35:04,368 --> 01:35:05,468
Nick like

2357
01:35:05,468 --> 01:35:06,428
He touched my jewelry

2358
01:35:06,428 --> 01:35:07,608
Well he was trying to

2359
01:35:07,608 --> 01:35:07,988
Court you

2360
01:35:07,988 --> 01:35:08,588
That was weird

2361
01:35:08,588 --> 01:35:10,708
That's because of my wrists dude

2362
01:35:10,708 --> 01:35:12,508
No he saw that you

2363
01:35:12,508 --> 01:35:13,568
Were super tizz

2364
01:35:13,568 --> 01:35:14,488
Oh

2365
01:35:14,488 --> 01:35:15,648
And then he reached out

2366
01:35:15,648 --> 01:35:16,148
To like

2367
01:35:16,148 --> 01:35:16,808
He was trying to

2368
01:35:16,808 --> 01:35:17,388
Like sapiosexual

2369
01:35:17,388 --> 01:35:18,808
Yeah he was like

2370
01:35:18,808 --> 01:35:20,308
He was trying to

2371
01:35:20,308 --> 01:35:21,288
He was like trying to

2372
01:35:21,288 --> 01:35:22,628
He was like trying to like

2373
01:35:22,628 --> 01:35:24,748
He's probably a tizz whisperer

2374
01:35:24,748 --> 01:35:25,128
Actually

2375
01:35:25,128 --> 01:35:26,528
He might be

2376
01:35:26,528 --> 01:35:27,448
He might be a tizz whisperer

2377
01:35:27,448 --> 01:35:28,128
That might be,

2378
01:35:28,428 --> 01:35:29,188
that might explain

2379
01:35:29,188 --> 01:35:30,328
our mutual attraction.

2380
01:35:30,688 --> 01:35:30,948
Yeah,

2381
01:35:31,008 --> 01:35:31,668
he probably was

2382
01:35:31,668 --> 01:35:32,368
trying to whisper

2383
01:35:32,368 --> 01:35:33,228
into your tiz.

2384
01:35:33,548 --> 01:35:33,808
Well,

2385
01:35:33,848 --> 01:35:34,668
he did like

2386
01:35:34,668 --> 01:35:47,766
get real close to it Yeah he was trying to do this Yeah that must be how it worked Anyways Then we got YouTube comments Stay in the drive lane That what Vake said about the Taco Bell

2387
01:35:48,006 --> 01:35:50,386
That was your top YouTube comment pick?

2388
01:35:50,526 --> 01:35:50,846
Apparently.

2389
01:35:51,766 --> 01:35:53,246
Vake just keeps it up.

2390
01:35:53,526 --> 01:35:55,846
I'm surprised every time I go through the YouTube notification.

2391
01:35:55,846 --> 01:35:58,946
He just likes talking about staying in lanes.

2392
01:35:59,206 --> 01:36:01,186
By the way, can you see my YouTube watch history

2393
01:36:01,186 --> 01:36:03,886
when I'm on the Stacker News Live account?

2394
01:36:04,726 --> 01:36:05,146
I don't know.

2395
01:36:05,146 --> 01:36:06,066
I use it too sometimes

2396
01:36:06,066 --> 01:36:06,806
To watch stuff

2397
01:36:06,806 --> 01:36:08,966
I just wonder if we can see

2398
01:36:08,966 --> 01:36:09,726
Each other's

2399
01:36:09,726 --> 01:36:11,066
YouTube history

2400
01:36:11,066 --> 01:36:11,746
I mean

2401
01:36:11,746 --> 01:36:13,066
I watch like car videos

2402
01:36:13,066 --> 01:36:13,726
Or whatever

2403
01:36:13,726 --> 01:36:14,286
Oh really?

2404
01:36:14,526 --> 01:36:14,866
I mean

2405
01:36:14,866 --> 01:36:16,086
I never look through the history

2406
01:36:16,086 --> 01:36:17,406
Or just weird videos

2407
01:36:17,406 --> 01:36:18,526
Like I'll find like a how-to

2408
01:36:18,526 --> 01:36:19,366
On something weird

2409
01:36:19,366 --> 01:36:19,906
And I'll be like

2410
01:36:19,906 --> 01:36:20,746
Man, a month is long

2411
01:36:20,746 --> 01:36:21,946
I never look through the history

2412
01:36:21,946 --> 01:36:23,166
Okay, well

2413
01:36:23,166 --> 01:36:24,526
Now I'm gonna go look through the history

2414
01:36:24,526 --> 01:36:25,346
Yeah, I just wanna

2415
01:36:25,346 --> 01:36:26,766
I'm just wondering

2416
01:36:26,766 --> 01:36:27,906
If we can see each other's history

2417
01:36:27,906 --> 01:36:29,186
I never looked through it

2418
01:36:29,186 --> 01:36:29,786
To be honest

2419
01:36:29,786 --> 01:36:30,686
But I'm gonna go look through it

2420
01:36:30,686 --> 01:36:31,706
I cleared it the other day

2421
01:36:31,706 --> 01:36:32,366
Oh, that's good

2422
01:36:32,366 --> 01:36:33,226
Because I was like

2423
01:36:33,226 --> 01:36:33,466
Wait

2424
01:36:33,466 --> 01:36:34,166
Cargan

2425
01:36:34,166 --> 01:36:35,546
I don't really...

2426
01:36:35,546 --> 01:36:39,246
Carmine know that I'm looking at harmoniums right now.

2427
01:36:39,306 --> 01:36:40,026
Oh, that's interesting.

2428
01:36:40,426 --> 01:36:42,166
We got some comments in the...

2429
01:36:43,826 --> 01:36:44,466
Oh, here.

2430
01:36:45,186 --> 01:36:47,386
Okay, it looks like Optimism's had.

2431
01:36:48,146 --> 01:36:50,666
Kube, I ran a donation address off at Impa for three years back

2432
01:36:50,666 --> 01:36:51,846
when BIP32 was new,

2433
01:36:51,886 --> 01:36:54,566
and I never had a gap past 60 without reuse,

2434
01:36:54,706 --> 01:36:58,166
so one out of most 60 people sent me sets.

2435
01:36:58,526 --> 01:36:59,206
What is he saying there?

2436
01:37:00,666 --> 01:37:01,106
Oh.

2437
01:37:01,106 --> 01:37:01,586
Oh.

2438
01:37:04,166 --> 01:37:09,606
okay so we never had a gap bigger than 60 so does that mean in english

2439
01:37:09,606 --> 01:37:16,566
he's saying that most of these uh if you're generating bigger gaps than that you probably

2440
01:37:16,566 --> 01:37:24,686
have a bug basically there's no reason to discard that many unpaid addresses okay yeah good one

2441
01:37:24,686 --> 01:37:30,846
optimism um things take care of itself thank you that's a long view i mean i really do think

2442
01:37:30,846 --> 01:37:32,466
Sometimes you just got to let things play out, dude.

2443
01:37:32,966 --> 01:37:33,226
Yeah.

2444
01:37:33,606 --> 01:37:34,566
I think you really do.

2445
01:37:34,746 --> 01:37:38,866
Most of the time these days, as I get older, I just let things go like this.

2446
01:37:39,006 --> 01:37:40,206
He also makes sense.

2447
01:37:40,206 --> 01:37:41,126
It just goes like this.

2448
01:37:42,386 --> 01:37:42,686
Yeah.

2449
01:37:43,166 --> 01:37:45,986
Hands grip each other as you go forward.

2450
01:37:46,046 --> 01:37:47,106
Sometimes in your favor, too.

2451
01:37:47,606 --> 01:37:47,866
Yeah.

2452
01:37:48,386 --> 01:37:51,786
He said something interesting where it's like in his own wallet software,

2453
01:37:51,786 --> 01:37:58,326
he basically recorded where the last invoice generation was.

2454
01:37:58,326 --> 01:38:01,446
so that he didn't, within his own software system,

2455
01:38:01,526 --> 01:38:02,986
he didn't have the gap limit problem.

2456
01:38:03,066 --> 01:38:03,286
Yeah.

2457
01:38:03,546 --> 01:38:04,966
Because even if he generated large gaps,

2458
01:38:05,006 --> 01:38:07,986
he still knew that he had to go where his last checkpoint was.

2459
01:38:09,326 --> 01:38:11,046
But it's really, if you're like,

2460
01:38:11,106 --> 01:38:14,926
if he imports that XPUB into another wallet,

2461
01:38:15,106 --> 01:38:16,666
it doesn't have that index in it.

2462
01:38:17,066 --> 01:38:20,366
So maybe there should be, it'd be nice of you if we had,

2463
01:38:20,366 --> 01:38:21,706
we can create another BIF.

2464
01:38:23,286 --> 01:38:26,186
Another BIF that when you export a wallet,

2465
01:38:26,186 --> 01:38:28,986
it includes this index,

2466
01:38:29,486 --> 01:38:31,286
the last unpaid invoice index.

2467
01:38:32,826 --> 01:38:34,386
And then he also said

2468
01:38:34,386 --> 01:38:36,306
Do-Re-E.

2469
01:38:37,146 --> 01:38:38,286
Is that how you say that?

2470
01:38:40,106 --> 01:38:41,206
It's French.

2471
01:38:42,086 --> 01:38:43,906
Do-Re-E.

2472
01:38:44,406 --> 01:38:45,506
Do-Re-E?

2473
01:38:45,926 --> 01:38:47,066
Yeah, Do-Re-E.

2474
01:38:47,146 --> 01:38:47,726
Do-Re-E.

2475
01:38:48,226 --> 01:38:49,546
Do-Re-E.

2476
01:38:49,866 --> 01:38:51,126
Do-Re-E.

2477
01:38:51,306 --> 01:38:52,006
Do-Re-E.

2478
01:38:52,106 --> 01:38:52,306
Yeah.

2479
01:38:52,686 --> 01:38:53,266
Do-Re-E.

2480
01:38:53,266 --> 01:38:55,626
I don't know why just everyone doesn't live in America.

2481
01:38:55,626 --> 01:38:56,206
yeah

2482
01:38:56,206 --> 01:38:57,586
that's such an American

2483
01:38:57,586 --> 01:38:58,286
thing to say

2484
01:38:58,286 --> 01:38:59,566
dude I was watching

2485
01:38:59,566 --> 01:39:00,406
speaking of

2486
01:39:00,406 --> 01:39:01,206
have you been watching

2487
01:39:01,206 --> 01:39:02,546
the Amanda Knox

2488
01:39:02,546 --> 01:39:03,366
thing on Hulu

2489
01:39:03,366 --> 01:39:04,866
have you seen that

2490
01:39:04,866 --> 01:39:06,286
the Amanda Knox series

2491
01:39:06,286 --> 01:39:07,146
I don't know

2492
01:39:07,146 --> 01:39:07,606
I don't know

2493
01:39:07,606 --> 01:39:08,966
that's crazy

2494
01:39:08,966 --> 01:39:10,106
is that like a true crime thing

2495
01:39:10,106 --> 01:39:10,546
no

2496
01:39:10,546 --> 01:39:11,146
so they like

2497
01:39:11,146 --> 01:39:12,386
so the Amanda Knox story

2498
01:39:12,386 --> 01:39:13,286
was a big thing

2499
01:39:13,286 --> 01:39:14,706
or at least for us probably

2500
01:39:14,706 --> 01:39:15,166
because I don't know

2501
01:39:15,166 --> 01:39:15,646
if you ever saw

2502
01:39:15,646 --> 01:39:16,726
she was the exchange student

2503
01:39:16,726 --> 01:39:17,486
that went to

2504
01:39:17,486 --> 01:39:18,866
France or

2505
01:39:18,866 --> 01:39:19,366
was it

2506
01:39:19,366 --> 01:39:20,286
no Italy I think

2507
01:39:20,286 --> 01:39:21,146
no Italy

2508
01:39:21,146 --> 01:39:22,586
and then she got convicted

2509
01:39:22,586 --> 01:39:23,846
of the whole crime

2510
01:39:23,846 --> 01:39:24,526
and then they kept her

2511
01:39:24,526 --> 01:39:25,166
murdered her boyfriend

2512
01:39:25,166 --> 01:39:25,606
or something

2513
01:39:25,886 --> 01:39:27,146
No, like some other thing.

2514
01:39:27,206 --> 01:39:28,226
And then she got convicted of it.

2515
01:39:28,306 --> 01:39:30,026
So they made a Hulu thing.

2516
01:39:30,746 --> 01:39:31,766
A true crime series.

2517
01:39:32,166 --> 01:39:32,566
Yeah.

2518
01:39:33,106 --> 01:39:34,226
It's really good.

2519
01:39:34,966 --> 01:39:35,926
I was watching that.

2520
01:39:35,926 --> 01:39:36,486
I don't like true crime.

2521
01:39:36,486 --> 01:39:38,286
I was watching that this past week.

2522
01:39:38,386 --> 01:39:39,226
The last one I watched.

2523
01:39:39,286 --> 01:39:40,366
I don't like watching that stuff,

2524
01:39:40,406 --> 01:39:42,346
but I felt like I had to watch that

2525
01:39:42,346 --> 01:39:44,746
just because it was like right around the time

2526
01:39:44,746 --> 01:39:46,286
when I was like coming up.

2527
01:39:46,286 --> 01:39:48,226
And I remember hearing about that all over.

2528
01:39:48,386 --> 01:39:48,906
You came up?

2529
01:39:49,366 --> 01:39:50,186
No, but you know what I mean?

2530
01:39:50,246 --> 01:39:50,726
Like that was,

2531
01:39:50,866 --> 01:39:52,986
it was like right around the time growing up

2532
01:39:52,986 --> 01:39:53,586
where I was just like,

2533
01:39:53,626 --> 01:39:55,306
all you heard about was Amanda Knox

2534
01:39:55,306 --> 01:39:57,566
and the Smola kind of like that.

2535
01:39:57,646 --> 01:39:59,666
So I was like, I feel like I know this person

2536
01:39:59,666 --> 01:40:00,966
even though I don't know this person.

2537
01:40:01,306 --> 01:40:03,026
The last True Crime I watched was Jinx.

2538
01:40:03,606 --> 01:40:05,866
I really liked that.

2539
01:40:06,566 --> 01:40:07,946
But I don't know.

2540
01:40:07,986 --> 01:40:09,986
Everything else is like too, it's too much.

2541
01:40:10,066 --> 01:40:11,166
I don't like, it's so,

2542
01:40:11,266 --> 01:40:12,546
they're so focused on the negative.

2543
01:40:13,086 --> 01:40:13,366
Yeah.

2544
01:40:13,866 --> 01:40:14,786
It was too violent.

2545
01:40:14,886 --> 01:40:15,906
Like I had to close my eyes

2546
01:40:15,906 --> 01:40:16,846
on some of the violent stuff.

2547
01:40:16,906 --> 01:40:18,666
I was just like, I can't watch the violent stuff.

2548
01:40:19,106 --> 01:40:20,006
I just closed my eyes.

2549
01:40:20,326 --> 01:40:21,606
The other thing was really cool.

2550
01:40:21,666 --> 01:40:23,866
They have a new Alien series.

2551
01:40:24,746 --> 01:40:24,966
What?

2552
01:40:25,306 --> 01:40:26,066
They have a new Alien series.

2553
01:40:26,066 --> 01:40:29,086
Oh, they had an exhibit for South by Southwest here for it.

2554
01:40:29,326 --> 01:40:32,166
Dude, the Alien series, the first episode sucks.

2555
01:40:32,426 --> 01:40:36,266
But as it gets better, it gets actually pretty good.

2556
01:40:36,746 --> 01:40:39,226
It's actually a pretty good, it's only like six episodes long.

2557
01:40:39,586 --> 01:40:39,906
Okay.

2558
01:40:39,986 --> 01:40:40,546
It's actually really good.

2559
01:40:40,546 --> 01:40:41,306
I didn't know about that.

2560
01:40:41,526 --> 01:40:45,566
I'm going to run out of Star Trek episodes at some point.

2561
01:40:45,706 --> 01:40:46,226
That one's good.

2562
01:40:46,466 --> 01:40:52,786
So the best thing I've seen recently, though, is they made a Predator movie.

2563
01:40:52,926 --> 01:40:55,146
But it's like an anime or like a cartoon.

2564
01:40:55,306 --> 01:41:01,306
thing. Dude, it's so good. Like if you can get over the fact that it's a cartoon and watch it,

2565
01:41:01,406 --> 01:41:06,286
it's so freaking good. Is it done in an anime style or it's like, yeah, it's like a, it's like

2566
01:41:06,286 --> 01:41:10,886
a realistic version of it, but they, I mean, I don't want to give anything away. Cause like,

2567
01:41:10,886 --> 01:41:15,946
if I give anything away, it'll like ruin everything for you. You're better just watching

2568
01:41:15,946 --> 01:41:21,786
this like cartoon of predator and not knowing anything. That's the best I could do for you.

2569
01:41:21,786 --> 01:41:26,046
Because if you watch it or watch a trailer, you're going to ruin it.

2570
01:41:26,246 --> 01:41:27,306
Because I didn't know anything.

2571
01:41:27,406 --> 01:41:31,526
I just knew Predator, cartoon, watch it.

2572
01:41:31,806 --> 01:41:32,346
And I did.

2573
01:41:32,466 --> 01:41:33,266
And I was just not.

2574
01:41:33,406 --> 01:41:36,906
I was just like, as I was watching, I was like, whoa, did not see that coming.

2575
01:41:37,226 --> 01:41:38,366
And then I was like, whoa.

2576
01:41:38,586 --> 01:41:40,886
And then at the end, I was like, oh, snap.

2577
01:41:41,346 --> 01:41:42,166
It's like, I'm here.

2578
01:41:43,326 --> 01:41:44,686
Anyways, stackers.

2579
01:41:44,866 --> 01:41:46,346
I have too much tiz for animation.

2580
01:41:47,286 --> 01:41:47,886
Yeah, me too.

2581
01:41:47,886 --> 01:41:49,886
Dude, it was stackers.

2582
01:41:50,006 --> 01:41:51,466
If you're listening to this.

2583
01:41:51,786 --> 01:41:53,106
watch the predator thing.

2584
01:41:53,526 --> 01:41:54,586
I was going to do a review on it,

2585
01:41:54,606 --> 01:41:56,286
but I feel like that would just give up too much.

2586
01:41:58,046 --> 01:41:58,446
Anyways.

2587
01:41:58,766 --> 01:41:59,626
Let them know.

2588
01:41:59,886 --> 01:42:01,506
That's all the posts this week.

2589
01:42:01,506 --> 01:42:02,986
Make sure to send your on-chain addresses.

2590
01:42:03,386 --> 01:42:04,926
Make sure let's take the on-chain back.

2591
01:42:06,286 --> 01:42:07,266
Let's really do this.

2592
01:42:07,266 --> 01:42:08,666
Yeah, don't suffer the gap limit problem.

2593
01:42:08,786 --> 01:42:09,626
Don't suffer the gap limit problem.

2594
01:42:09,626 --> 01:42:11,226
Save the last 10 points index.

2595
01:42:11,386 --> 01:42:12,306
Be divisive.

2596
01:42:12,746 --> 01:42:14,026
What else did we learn this week?

2597
01:42:16,006 --> 01:42:17,026
Artificial intelligence.

2598
01:42:17,566 --> 01:42:21,446
Yeah, don't let AI take your art from you.

2599
01:42:21,446 --> 01:42:22,866
and stay in school.

2600
01:42:23,346 --> 01:42:24,166
I think that's what we learned.

2601
01:42:24,586 --> 01:42:25,266
I think that's everything.

2602
01:42:25,586 --> 01:42:25,786
Yeah.

2603
01:42:26,306 --> 01:42:27,566
Don't let AI take your seat

2604
01:42:27,566 --> 01:42:29,306
in your class.

2605
01:42:30,386 --> 01:42:30,946
Keyon.

2606
01:42:31,426 --> 01:42:31,806
Yes.

2607
01:42:32,086 --> 01:42:32,326
Zap.
