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welcome back

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to another

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exciting episode

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of stacker news

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live my name is

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be a

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merry christmas merry christmas wow it's the holiday yeah thank god it's right after i think

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this is called boxing day you said that earlier i still don't know what that i learned that like

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a few years ago i have no idea where i heard i was like online probably and someone said it's

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boxing day and i'm like what and i looked it up i think it has something to do with either

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you're like boxing all up all of your stuff up like putting away the decorations is my

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recollection of what it means i should have probably looked it up before i started talking

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about it or it has something to do with like returns returning stuff that you got as presents

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that you don't want or it has something to do with a lot of the stores i think are like

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they're getting rid of their decorations and they're like selling things for cheap that that

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didn't sell before the holiday so it could be one of those three things yeah i don't i actually

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don't know which it is but it's not something we really do here in the united states i think it's

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like bigger in the uk yeah keep selling over here we're american so we you know but we have boxes too

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so I don't know why that would be much different.

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What did you do this week?

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What did I do this week?

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I finally got some of my office set up.

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Oh, I saw that.

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You put the light on.

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Oh, yeah.

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I hung up the light.

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I haven't turned it on yet, but that should be on.

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At the last place, I was forbidden from...

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Whoa!

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Calling them out, buddy.

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Yeah, that's right.

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Now you're calling them out.

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The Littlefield family...

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sent me a verbal

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this is not car saying this the little field family at the little field building sent me a

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verbal cease and desist through various channels and told me i could not light up my my stack reduce

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sign in the window because it's a historical building and um you know they're gonna clip

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this and they're gonna send it to i think they just don't like bitcoin they're gonna send it to

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the people that come at me mr littlefield well they're not gonna send it to them they're gonna

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sent to people that we know so it's all good i don't think anyone's gonna send it to anyone

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oh they do uh you do they sure do it always gets back to me yeah but now i get to keep my sign on

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all the time and then cause glare in the eyes of people who enter and exit blah blah it was funny

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though when you did do that like almost immediately like um almost immediately i won't say man i feel

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Like, can I share this story?

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Yeah, who cares?

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Somebody who was in the building with us.

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I won't say who.

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Please don't say who, Keon.

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Okay.

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You're totally going to say who.

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Don't say who.

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Somebody in the building with us of notoriety was like, did they let Keon put up the sign?

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And I was like-

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Is it Michael Saylor that you're talking about?

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Just let me finish the story.

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All right.

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And I was like, I mean, I don't know.

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like i i think he just put it up like i don't think it's a big deal like it's just a sign

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and then almost immediately like two weeks later or like a week later that's when that email came

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through so oh dude you're you ratted me out no i think it was that person i think it was that person

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that's what i like i was suspicious like did mr littlefield really say something about my time

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I think it was that person.

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Yeah, I think it was just they were like, you know what?

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We don't want you to have a sign.

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I mean, at the end of the day, like, yeah, it doesn't matter.

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Like, it doesn't matter.

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Anyway.

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Well, I get to have my sign on now.

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And so eat my shorts.

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But no one sees it, though.

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You have to come in to Brazos.

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It's a secret sign, bro.

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It's a secret sign.

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But it's always on.

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Hey, the people that go to the Italian restaurant will see it, though.

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There's that.

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That's right.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, they'll be all high on pesto.

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See my sign.

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If you've never seen this crazy show before, it's called Stacker News Live.

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We cover the, what is it?

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Was it the name of the site again?

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I always forget.

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25 Hour Party Club or something?

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We have last week's most popular clip was Chinese billionaires are having dozens of babies.

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Did you see what Wumble made with this clip?

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Do you see that right there?

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Yeah.

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It's hilarious, dude.

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Well, those are like not Asian kids.

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Are they mixed?

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No, that was the whole point of the video was that it wasn't like they were Chinese billionaires that were using American surrogates.

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or women's wait yes surrogates to yeah impregnate yeah but there's

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bumble made this this amazing cover art for it the kids are supposed to be genetically chinese still

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well i mean there's kind of a uh well how do you say that there's kind of a slant there right a

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little bit slant i mean right can you tell i think i feel like bumble chose the right

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i think some babies i mean maybe some of them look maybe possibly max but the white like white

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with blue eyes on the right is definitely not i mean he probably used ai to generate like babies

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right for the for the cover art no those are probably real babies dude anyways it had the

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most views check it out if you're interested in chinese surrogacy um and then also check out the

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thing and it's uh we don't want that uh the next thing we're gonna jump into we're jumping to the

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top three stories of the week the number three top story is squatting amsterdam episode three the

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mafia strikes back this is from bitcoin graffiti nine comments 11 000 sats keyon is this the same

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post from last week no this is the third episode i think last week we covered the second episode

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of the post but this is this the third episode covers after they had moved in already i think

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I think it was the day after, maybe the week after they had moved in,

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one of their neighbors knocked on their door and handed them a DVD of his life story.

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I guess he was covered by a local news station,

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and he survived Nazi prison camps.

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but he went on to be a bodybuilder in late age.

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He was around 80.

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So he shared that story here.

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He also shared how they ended up getting kicked out eventually.

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I guess the flat that they had moved into or were squatting in was owned by criminals.

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And the research that they knew before they squatted in it, they knew that it was owned by criminals

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and was, I guess, historically used to launder money.

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And I guess one morning they woke up.

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They were woken up by someone, I guess, knocking on their door

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or trying to come in.

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a bunch of people in coveralls.

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And they were trying to get them out.

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They were threatening to break down the door.

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and force them out.

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I guess the squatter network is like a thing.

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And they, I guess, post it on the wall inside the house.

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You have a bunch of phone numbers you call

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depending on the situation that arises.

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someone is attempting to forcibly remove you

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from your squat, you call, there's a number you call.

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And so they called that number.

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And I think within short order,

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12 other squatters in the area,

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They biked over to the flat and basically presented an opposite force to the people who were threatening to force them out.

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And then they basically shooed the people, like the brutes who came to get them out, and they continued to live there.

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And then he said, like, one of the mistakes that they made was there was an apartment below them that was also unoccupied that they were told by the squatting organization in Amsterdam that they should also occupy that flat below.

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But I guess that flat had not been empty for long enough, and they couldn't make a legal claim on it.

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And so they were afraid to occupy it.

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And so they didn't. And I guess that's eventually how they ended up losing that flat was that they started they started renovating the flat below them. And then they ended up piercing through the floor into their flat. And I guess they also were able to get a the people who were trying to get them out were all were able to get a permit for remodeling that flat that also included the flat that they were occupying.

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And I think they have lawyers tell them that they would no longer be able to legally squat there soon once the permit, I guess, allowed them to begin renovating.

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And so they, I guess they went on to squat another place that we haven't, I guess that's episode four.

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But this is, yeah, this is, episode three is like the beginning of the first part of the squatting journey.

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Wow. Crazy.

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yeah yeah this uh how many episodes are there going to be did he say or

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well he doesn't know i think he's writing them as a oh as he goes along

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yeah well but we haven't had one in about a week

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oh well so we'll get the next one next week hopefully

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so stay tuned it looks like uh tom comment was from signal 312 said thanks

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for the episode fascinating at some point it would be

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interesting to learn how your politics evolved

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if they did i guess i'm assuming that um

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he says i was definitely socialist leaning when i was younger over the years i shifted more

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libertarian due to my experience as entrepreneur in life in general uh many folks in the squawney

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movement are idealists i didn't adhere to much of their philosophies um he said i was a very soft

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squatter what does that mean and clearly a tourist i think not like ideologically squatting

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like sort of interesting yeah more of a hobby maybe as a hobby squatter yeah or

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yeah didn't believe in squatting as like a solution to the world's problems was

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just found out cool maybe yeah i wonder do you think darth going to squatting out there in the

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woods do you think that's a form of squatting i would guess he probably purchased a parcel of land

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i would guess that's what he did yeah it would be because that would be because he would be soft

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squatting he'd be heart squatting right because he's technically building the whole citadel yeah

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i would guess that someone owns that land and i don't think i would guess it's not public land

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do people do do people do that with like woods like you know i think you can yeah because like

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homeless people do that here in alston in the woods basically they do that in the wood i've

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never been out in the woods here to see that but i know homeless people take up camp in a variety

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Like behind the, there's a, gosh, what's the name of that?

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Not the Walmart, but there's like a Sam's Club down south Austin.

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And behind that, there's like some woods.

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There's like a homeless camp, I guess.

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It's kind of like the village, you know?

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Like the movie The Village where they just like, people don't know what year it is.

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It's just like, it could be the 1800s back there.

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You just don't know.

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you really you think you think some of these homeless people are like renaissance people

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they like i mean i mean in the movie they didn't even they were like there's like this bob barbed

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wire they didn't even know how far like the kids didn't know they were just raised there you know

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yeah i think they were told there were like scary things on the outside and they needed to stay

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outside their their parents were a bunch of socialists or whatever or soft squad or no those

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are those were hard squatters i guess i don't think those were squatters though i think they

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Totally. That's what I'm saying. Are they caught squatters if they're in the woods?

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I don't think just being in the woods makes you a squatter. I think squatting is

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you are occupying property that's owned by someone else.

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The woods don't count? If it's property owned by someone

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else, it does. In that movie, I think it was owned by the state, I think.

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I don't think that's squatting if it's public land that you're on. I think it's

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something else. I don't know. Somebody should look into that.

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uh cool the number two top story this week is introducing pigeon and privacy first

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nostor scheduler um this is from movilab in december 20th 26 comments 20k boost 2269 sets

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key on what's this yeah pigeon looks like a buffer like tool if people are familiar with

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buffer you can use it to schedule posts i think on x and other platforms maybe that maybe that's

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old i don't know if they do that anymore but this is like that for a nostor you get to schedule

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post in advance. What's cool is you can also schedule DMs. But yeah, it looks like that is

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mostly what it's doing. And it's doing it via DVM, which are, what are these?

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Data vending machines?

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Data vending machines is, I think, what the name of that spec that allows you to do that,

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where you can host a service and people can discover it and pay you for using it.

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and that's

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most of what there is there so you can run your own

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DVM

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for Pidgin that does this for you

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or I guess you can use other

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Pidgins that other people have

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and schedule your posts

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it looks

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pretty nifty

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Is it just on Noster or is it just for

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This is specifically for Noster

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Okay so it's just for Noster

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Yeah.

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Oh, okay.

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Yep.

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Cool.

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Yeah.

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Check it out here.

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Pigeon.loal.

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Then you just log in with Noster,

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and then you need a browser extension or a bunker

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or just YOLO your private key.

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That seems to be the thing.

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Or use Froster.

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Oh, can you use Froster on this?

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I think I have a remote signer.

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You can use Froster.

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Looks like I'm getting a nod.

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something froster specific yeah i mean the libraries out there they could do it but they

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would have to build it in okay all right so right here ladies and gentlemen pigeon if you're if

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you're listening which you likely are because it's got to you log in my froster you know you

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need a login right there that says probably before bunker ideally you should put one that says what's

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the froster logo should you do log in with froster you know what actually if they support

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nit 46 yeah you could log in with froster yeah okay okay they support nit 46.

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okay yeah well you could should with login with bunker there you should be able to

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yeah so i guess it works with froster according to what mr froster says over there either way

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log in with froster um sounds pretty cool yeah the next top story oh the final top story is

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distributed charge ev now available for public testing this is from andy december 19th 100k

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boost baby 11 500 sats key on who's andy yeah so andy is a man who has been working on uh providing

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car charging um that you can pay for with lightning and i recall andy posting on stacker

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news about this like back in early stacker news days um and it's really cool to watch the evolution

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but this is this is like the latest stage of it where he has it you can actually go and charge a

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car by paying with lightning now. Um, at, I think it's a location in Ohio. I forget exactly where

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he's located or where this is located, but, um, yeah, uh, really cool. There was like a intermediate

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stage where you had to have something installed in the car, but like part of this latest release

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is that you don't need something installed in the car. And that uses a kind of a, kind of a bond

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system to work now where you pay you pay up front and it's held in sort of a bond and then you can

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come back and pay the exact amount later sort of like when you go into a gas station you give them

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a 20 and then you got to go back and get your change it's kind of like that situation now um

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auto so auto pay is the version that requires you have something installed in your car and manual pay

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is the version I just described.

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And it's located where?

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Okay.

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Oh, Kentucky.

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Covington, Kentucky.

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And yeah, you can go and use it.

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But really, I think really cool.

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And I think the whole, why it's called distributed charge

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is I think what Andy envisions is that,

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you know, like relatively ordinary people,

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not Elon Musk and his superchargers,

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but relatively ordinary people,

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they they can use that they can use distributed charges like systems and software and stuff to

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sell their electricity to other people who want to charge their cars um you know have a have a

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distributed supercharging network i think is the it's what i would imagine the vision is for this

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um yeah it should be really cool i actually talked to andy this week i was telling you about him um and yeah I just wanted to kind of know how the whole payment flow worked And yeah it exactly like you said

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I guess he had tried for, like he had gone through a lot of different iterations.

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And then he was telling me that he eventually just came to this iteration where you have to pay once.

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And then you pay again once the charge is completely finished.

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So that was the final outcome that he came to.

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The other thing that he told me was interesting was that he's looking for, like, to make this part right here.

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Isn't too expensive, but it does take time to do it.

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And then, you know, you have to put it together and all that kind of stuff.

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But there is one before.

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I want to show it here because he does have one before where it showed initially what it looked like.

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Yeah, so he got it from all this.

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this is what it looked like before

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I don't know if you can see that back there

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but that's what it looked like before

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before he got it down to that little module

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which I think is amazing

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for him to like make that

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that jump

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from what like

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because I met him in like 22

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I think we met him in 22

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and for him to make that jump from there to here

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is pretty phenomenal man

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so I think it's just amazing

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it's just his tenacity

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to keep doing it and um i know he's always at tab conf every year with that with the bicycle and

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all that kind of stuff so yeah there it goes right there and for what he was telling me it

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like it works with level two chargers the the new one the new one that he has is a level two

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charger apparently i didn't even know there was difference between a level one charger and level

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two charger um and then like some of the other ones there's like a level three charger that's

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like higher the level the faster charge yeah that's like the fastest charger but the level

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two chargers are like the ones that you could theoretically do like in a day a full charge in

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like seven hours or eight hours whatever and then level one charger is like the ones you have at

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home um okay but um it's fascinating i think he's he's definitely on to something i it's really

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early but it's really exciting at the same time right and like this is a guy who's like if you

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like how would you say like if there's a guy and i don't know for me personally like i met a lot of

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people in the bitcoin space like a lot of people a lot of developers too a lot of founders and i

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would say he's like the only one that i've ever met that's trying to wield electricity with

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lightning and to me that's like pretty freaking cool like he's like literally trying to he's like

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tesla he's like literally trying to wield electricity well you met austin didn't you

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from sonota yeah but but like this this is for me this is like a little bit different

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because this is like you know when he's doing all this stuff he can get shocked

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like do you know what i mean like he was telling me about the wiring that he does so like

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let me go back um where is it at here i think it's here like the wiring that he was

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doing so this is the the other wiring but it just goes to show that like um like all this all the

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stuff that he had to learn keon just to get it because he's not from what he was telling me he

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this wasn't like you know he he works at lightning labs so like this wasn't like his thing like his

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i thought he was an electrical engineer by training oh it wasn't i didn't know that but um

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so for me i was just it to me it's just fascinating to see somebody actually trying to

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you know harness electricity like that and then you know you know use it with lightning it's just

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really cool it's just cool man i don't know it is really cool i think anywhere where bitcoin becomes

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something physical yeah it's way cooler than yeah it ordinarily is because it's like otherwise so

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digital and abstract you this is stuff it's like when the guys made the lightning door

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like it's kind of like that it just it's just like seeing in the physical world bitcoin

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is just i feel like that's the that's the final destination for bitcoin yeah it impresses people

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in a way that software does not software on the screen does not anyways great post

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looking looking forward to him um going on tour this year to show off a lot of this stuff

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um cool that's all the top stories this week on snacker news live we're gonna jump into um

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let's keep it going lightning uh let's jump into wumble's picks wumble's picks this is a segment by

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wumble and it's called wumble's picks wumble had this pick uh lightning nodes lightning network

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nodes count and capacity by country this was released by mempool um did you see this yeah

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this is from their uh mempool's dashboard mempool.space's dashboard of their lightning dashboard

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I think they added this lightning stuff about a year ago or so.

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But you can look at, we have a pie chart here

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where you can see where all the IPs of all these nodes are.

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The majority of them, or not the majority,

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but many of them, a large share, 29% are in the United States.

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And then followed up by China, Germany, Canada, France.

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There's a lot in China.

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yeah actually that is

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that is pretty interesting I wonder

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that could just be

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where data centers are

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located and might not be

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run by people who

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are of Chinese

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descent or whatever

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Germany makes sense so does the Netherlands

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France

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even Canada

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I'm surprised Italy is not higher

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yeah and it's important to note we also

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don't have data on where

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tor nodes are located obviously because they don't have an ip address so we can't do any

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like indirect geolocation um of those nodes so it even shows the capacity there

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i don't know if you see that yeah yeah and so these are um nodes that are i well i don't know

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i guess this could also cover private this probably doesn't cover private nodes

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private channel capacity.

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Where's El Salvador at?

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Capacity is not known.

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They have four notes?

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No, that can't be right. Most of them must be tour notes.

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It's also

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if you were doing

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a data analysis on this, you would go to anyone who is attempting to collect

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this data and then compare them all because they likely all have some kind of

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anomalies or anomaly um that another one might not interesting so i wouldn't trust

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any one particular dashboard at least to be super precise um he did have uh some questions on this

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so let me bring up the questions for you his first question that wumble had is will there

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be more or less capacity a year from now hmm yeah uh i would guess more um if you look if we go back

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to mempool.space and we click on the lightning tab at the lightning button with the arrow on it there

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we go to capacity lightning network capacity yeah we can see the we recently hit an all-time high

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um and so that's garnered a bunch of interest but it happened like shortly after square made

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their announcement where they are allowing merchants to turn on uh receiving bitcoin

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receiving for and you know at their terminals and um so that's so capacity jumped up and so

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you know you could maybe say that that trend is expected to continue

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you. But you could also say maybe it'll be like we've seen in surges and lightning capacity in

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the past where eventually they correct where you have kind of people who deploy capital inefficiently

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come online and then they eventually realize they have a bunch of Bitcoin and hot wallets that's

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occupying channels that aren't being used and they begin to use it more efficiently.

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So that would be a reason to expect it to go down. But if lightning transactions are going

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to increase and continue to increase is what I think that's what the market is suggesting here

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is that they expect Square turning on these lightning terminals is going to lead to more

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lightning usage. And these are people coming online who want to take advantage of that.

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And so we had a nice, so we had a nice increase there. But I would expect it goes up. That would

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be my guess it's just a guess um another reason it might go down is if like or it might go up is

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that bitcoin price decreases a lot and then you know because unit of account at square merchants

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is denominated in dollars um you would need more bitcoin to service all of those merchants

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rather than less if the exchange rate decreases um

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yeah i think that's my that's my guess about it's interesting that the um where it goes it almost

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follows a lot of things that we're seeing here in the space as far as like the lightning nodes

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as far as i mean it would be cool to see like correlation with just in every aspect of um

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yeah i'm just thinking right now of a lot of things so all at once

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yeah but it's interesting to note that in this graph we're looking at the channels the number

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of channels on the network the public channels at least decreased quite a bit over the last few

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years but capacity plateaued so it's almost like node runners were consolidating from you know a

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little bit of bitcoin in many channels to a lot of bitcoin and a few channels do you think there's

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more private channels or do you think it's just more consolidation i think it's probably a lot of

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it is consolidation that we're seeing in the chart i think and then um also i think there's i think

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there's probably more private channels than there are public channels yeah i would think so too and

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that might have increased quite a bit but um the other question that he had was uh what was the

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other question one uh will there be more or less visible nodes a year from net or nodes a year form

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now or from now it looks like he's saying more or less visible notes um let me go back to here

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you would hope there'd be more but um i would guess i would guess not i would guess yeah i

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would guess there will be more i don't know i don't think it'll go up by a lot

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i was looking at the um river lightning report from i think a year or two ago and

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lightning usage is something like there's one one node runner for every eight custodial wallet

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users or something like that um wait say like there's one node runner yeah there's like one

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one person who's using non-custodial lightning for every eight people who is using a custodial

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wallet. And so even if like lightning usage 10X, that suggests like a lightning usage 10Xs,

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then we have a, it's a relatively modest bump in non-custodial or the absolute number of nodes

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that are being run or non-custodial lightning users.

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yeah

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so

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I would expect though it does go up

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I think we've gone

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the sentiment on lightning

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feels like it is

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extremely bearish and has been for the last

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few years

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and I think that's more

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a symptom

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of a lot of things

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it's mostly fashion I think

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it became out of lightning became unfashionable um and no one really talked about it for a long

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time and now i think hey how's it going yeah come come in yeah hey what's up we're my name's phil

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this is jerry we're bitcoin i feel what's going on here there were people here yeah yeah yeah

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yeah we're live right now yeah yeah yeah feel free i mean if you want to hang out feel free to come in

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uh grab a seat anywhere you see that's austin back there we're just recording yeah yeah

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No, you're fine.

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Yeah, feel free to grab a seat anywhere.

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There's some drinks in the fridge and some beers.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, so what were you saying about the lightning notes you were saying?

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Oh, I was just saying that I don't.

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Oh, no, we were talking about sentiment around lightning has been kind of bearish.

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I think that's kind of flipping around.

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So, you know, maybe that changes how many people, how many plebs run notes.

457
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At some point, there was a huge push to have more people running Bitcoin nodes and Lightning nodes.

458
00:32:43,096 --> 00:32:46,936
It seems like that has died out, and everyone's just talking about treasury companies.

459
00:32:47,256 --> 00:32:57,936
I think what's going to happen, just for me talking to people, I think at some point there's going to be some new sort of device that will be connected to a BitX.

460
00:32:58,596 --> 00:33:02,276
And then I think that will get more plebs to run nodes again.

461
00:33:02,276 --> 00:33:04,616
and I don't know anything

462
00:33:04,616 --> 00:33:06,276
but I would imagine we're going to see

463
00:33:06,276 --> 00:33:08,476
like a BitX type of

464
00:33:08,476 --> 00:33:10,496
related node

465
00:33:10,496 --> 00:33:12,116
of a sort that does both

466
00:33:12,116 --> 00:33:13,916
and I think that will get people to

467
00:33:13,916 --> 00:33:16,616
come in personally

468
00:33:16,616 --> 00:33:18,576
because I would buy that in a second

469
00:33:18,576 --> 00:33:20,296
and I think that's what you need

470
00:33:20,296 --> 00:33:21,336
you need to get the plebs to

471
00:33:21,336 --> 00:33:24,596
Why would you buy a node if it's attached

472
00:33:24,596 --> 00:33:25,596
to a BitX and not to a node?

473
00:33:25,596 --> 00:33:27,256
But I think you can get the price point right

474
00:33:27,256 --> 00:33:30,676
because there's really no incentive to run

475
00:33:30,676 --> 00:33:31,076
a node

476
00:33:31,076 --> 00:33:35,776
why would there be an incentive to run a node if you have it you know you have the lottery

477
00:33:35,776 --> 00:33:40,516
mining that's going on with that with the bid axe but you don't need to run a node to do uh to do

478
00:33:40,516 --> 00:33:43,776
well i mean like right now we're running that lottery miner over there that's just like running

479
00:33:43,776 --> 00:33:50,016
the bid axe right it's just like running so to me that seems like the obvious entry point if you're

480
00:33:50,016 --> 00:33:55,296
trying to just get like the just trying to get more nodes online it's just like figure out a way

481
00:33:55,296 --> 00:34:03,356
to do do it with the um with the bidx i mean i get leveraging bidx's like marketing and you know

482
00:34:03,356 --> 00:34:11,356
stuff to sell notes but i don't think it it doesn't seem to make much much sense to that you

483
00:34:11,356 --> 00:34:15,956
need one with you need one or the other you know i don't know i feel like i feel like that's the

484
00:34:15,956 --> 00:34:22,316
that's the entry point but could i could be wrong we'll see all right it could be you know it could

485
00:34:22,316 --> 00:34:26,336
be like chicken and waffles and i'm like why would you have both together and car's like i'm

486
00:34:26,336 --> 00:34:30,476
gonna start a chicken waffle oh it's not me i'm just you just would have run what i've heard you

487
00:34:30,476 --> 00:34:38,016
know i think it's gonna come to fruition at some point um anyway uh let's jump into the

488
00:34:38,016 --> 00:34:43,876
let's keep it going let's keep it going let's go into more let's jump into some more stuff real

489
00:34:43,876 --> 00:34:51,956
quick so zeus just launched um it's version 0.12 i don't know if you saw this from evan he just

490
00:34:51,956 --> 00:35:00,996
launched this on the 22nd um big a big update um he has nostor wallet connect um and then i think

491
00:35:00,996 --> 00:35:07,056
this is the really coolest thing right here did you see this with sweep support you can now sweep

492
00:35:07,056 --> 00:35:11,476
funds from an open dime making zeus a great companion wallet to recommend for when you dish

493
00:35:11,476 --> 00:35:17,896
out those wedding and birthday presents did you see this part i did not see that i think that's

494
00:35:17,896 --> 00:35:23,816
really cool it is cool um and then there's some other stuff battery saver warning bug fixes um

495
00:35:23,816 --> 00:35:31,896
and yeah he's just uh he's just on a row man he's just on a row keep shipping and then uh the next

496
00:35:31,896 --> 00:35:40,836
one i wanted to bring up was where is it at where is it at where is it at um yeah let's let's talk

497
00:35:40,836 --> 00:35:48,076
about this one so this was um this was from danny of breeze he he shared uh roy's stable coins

498
00:35:48,076 --> 00:35:53,636
evolution not a revolution i don't know if you read through this at all i haven't had a chance

499
00:35:53,636 --> 00:36:00,516
yet so i read through it um it's um he basically just kind of talks through why stable coins

500
00:36:00,516 --> 00:36:07,236
have become a thing in the bitcoin ecosystem and talks about why they are just infrastructure it's

501
00:36:07,236 --> 00:36:16,456
a lot of stuff we already know we talk about in the lab um and how you know um it's gonna be uh

502
00:36:16,456 --> 00:36:21,616
i think he said it's like a 1.9 two trillion dollar market by 2030 i think that's from citibank

503
00:36:21,616 --> 00:36:28,276
or citigroup um he then talks about how you know there's just so many places around the world

504
00:36:28,276 --> 00:36:34,556
that that need a stable current that need a stable coin to to move to uh to hold its value

505
00:36:34,556 --> 00:36:39,116
i think this is all the stuff that we know um you're seeing it in africa really take off and

506
00:36:39,116 --> 00:36:46,396
in latin america really take off um he then talks about how that over the long term stable coins

507
00:36:46,396 --> 00:36:53,596
won't they won't win because there's just so much friction attached to them um whether that's just

508
00:36:54,156 --> 00:36:58,476
you know whether that's coming from governments or from jurisdictions or regulation or whatever

509
00:36:58,476 --> 00:37:04,496
that's going to be in america it's it's different than the eu and vice versa um and then he and then

510
00:37:04,496 --> 00:37:09,356
he talks about like what what that means for the future of bitcoin and and how he sees it playing

511
00:37:09,356 --> 00:37:12,776
out it's kind of what we were talking about earlier when i was explaining it with like the

512
00:37:12,776 --> 00:37:19,056
whole ai thing and and i'm starting to kind of go on this trend now because i'm even becoming even

513
00:37:19,056 --> 00:37:23,396
become more open to stable coins because before i think i i was definitely on the other side of the

514
00:37:23,396 --> 00:37:29,316
just not not with it wanted them to die and now i'm actually after reading through this and being

515
00:37:29,316 --> 00:37:35,796
a little bit more more pragmatic about it and being more realist about it and realizing that like

516
00:37:36,676 --> 00:37:39,956
this is where things are going they're going to charge like a two or three percent fee on this

517
00:37:39,956 --> 00:37:45,316
kind of stuff and bitcoin's just going to be able to be you know in-game credits for the internet

518
00:37:45,316 --> 00:37:51,716
and continue to be that um and it's only going to be a a pain in the ass whenever you have to go from

519
00:37:51,716 --> 00:37:55,316
like bitcoin to a stable coin because there's probably going to be some sort of

520
00:37:55,316 --> 00:38:02,356
feeds associated with that and some sort of doxing or uh aml or kyc um then it becomes

521
00:38:02,356 --> 00:38:08,596
yeah like he says here it's it's easier to win the race without hurdles um so he thinks overall

522
00:38:08,596 --> 00:38:23,392
potentially where we can get to a point where people will just opt out of having the the aml the kyc the friction the two percent three percent 3 whatever that is And they would just go straight to wanting to receive Bitcoin

523
00:38:23,392 --> 00:38:25,792
because, as you know, the tooling will get better,

524
00:38:25,972 --> 00:38:27,032
the use cases will get better,

525
00:38:27,952 --> 00:38:31,012
it will just get out there far more easier to implement,

526
00:38:31,852 --> 00:38:33,092
APIs, all that sort of thing.

527
00:38:33,432 --> 00:38:34,932
So that was a great article.

528
00:38:35,172 --> 00:38:36,232
Just wanted to share it.

529
00:38:37,172 --> 00:38:41,032
Do you got any thoughts on Roy and his...

530
00:38:41,032 --> 00:38:45,012
I know you didn't read it, but do you have any thoughts about stable coins in general?

531
00:38:46,432 --> 00:38:59,632
Yeah, I think, well, I think from what I gather from what you said about this and some of what I skimmed through while you were talking about it is stable coins are like a fiat solution to a fiat problem.

532
00:39:00,912 --> 00:39:10,392
Which is where they are sort of, they are less regulated versions while still being regulated, less regulated versions of what banks provide.

533
00:39:11,032 --> 00:39:20,032
And so they allow people to get access to something like a U.S. dollar in a U.S. bank account without having to have a U.S. bank account.

534
00:39:20,032 --> 00:39:30,612
And that has utility because a lot of people want to interact with U.S. services that require U.S. dollars.

535
00:39:30,812 --> 00:39:32,692
So I get that.

536
00:39:34,292 --> 00:39:38,972
And yeah, that sounds like the point he's making.

537
00:39:38,972 --> 00:39:45,692
and that eventually the utility of that will be exhausted.

538
00:39:46,232 --> 00:39:52,992
There are only so many people that want a less regulated bank account, more or less.

539
00:39:56,352 --> 00:40:00,432
Yeah, and I think it's like a baby step to something like Bitcoin.

540
00:40:00,732 --> 00:40:06,632
It's going to familiarize people with the responsibility required to hold your own money, perhaps,

541
00:40:06,632 --> 00:40:11,272
and then maybe Bitcoin can come in and play a role.

542
00:40:11,772 --> 00:40:14,712
I think also it gives us time to kind of build everything out.

543
00:40:14,892 --> 00:40:18,972
And then it also, you know, I think over time people will just realize

544
00:40:18,972 --> 00:40:23,912
just the value of paying for things will just go higher and higher and higher

545
00:40:23,912 --> 00:40:27,492
for something like a stable coin.

546
00:40:27,652 --> 00:40:31,712
And then the value for sats will continue to go lower and lower and lower.

547
00:40:31,712 --> 00:40:37,632
people will realize that they'll just much prefer to opt in to get a bitcoin payment instead and i

548
00:40:37,632 --> 00:40:42,332
think that and then you'll also just see people you know like like we saw with cash app just

549
00:40:42,332 --> 00:40:49,572
opt into to allow you'll see more companies just accept bitcoin as payment and more more people

550
00:40:49,572 --> 00:40:53,232
accept bitcoin as payment i think that'll just happen over the long term especially by the time

551
00:40:53,232 --> 00:40:59,652
we get to 2030 or 2035 or whatever yeah i'm not so i wanted i also want to say that i'm not

552
00:40:59,652 --> 00:41:04,672
necessarily optimistic about this. I don't think it necessarily leads to more Bitcoin adoption. I

553
00:41:04,672 --> 00:41:10,192
think there's some possibility that what ends up happening instead is this gets more normalized

554
00:41:10,192 --> 00:41:16,252
and people still don't realize the value of Bitcoin for whatever reason or don't want to use it or

555
00:41:16,252 --> 00:41:24,632
maybe there are more rational reasons why Bitcoin stays a store of value and not a medium of

556
00:41:24,632 --> 00:41:31,852
exchange or whatever but i think i don't think we should be assisting stable coins doing this

557
00:41:31,852 --> 00:41:38,232
kind of thing i think i just because i suspect uh yeah i there there's there's a possibility

558
00:41:38,232 --> 00:41:45,072
that stable coins eclipse bitcoin entirely to the point where bitcoin never becomes

559
00:41:45,072 --> 00:41:52,512
an option um for people or it becomes somehow invisible to them effectively not an option for

560
00:41:52,512 --> 00:42:00,992
them and so there is some risk there maybe yeah maybe cbdc somehow leapfrog yeah 100 i'm right

561
00:42:00,992 --> 00:42:05,812
there with you i and i don't think i don't think roy is not uh and i don't want to speak for roy but

562
00:42:05,812 --> 00:42:11,692
i don't think you know breeze and roy are like assisting them but i i do think obviously like

563
00:42:11,692 --> 00:42:18,532
tether since like 2013 has been trying to build this market um and on a lot of other different

564
00:42:18,532 --> 00:42:25,252
blockchains besides Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the last one to bend the knee to that. But I do think that

565
00:42:25,252 --> 00:42:30,472
it's here regardless and it's infrastructure that Circle has already built out over the course of

566
00:42:30,472 --> 00:42:37,972
seven years or whatever, or whenever they started with their stablecoin. I only see two things,

567
00:42:38,012 --> 00:42:44,712
how this kind of plays out. I see the totalitarian state where the CBDC comes and it's probably

568
00:42:44,712 --> 00:42:51,272
going to be from like ai stuff honestly like it's just going to be a total ai stable coin um

569
00:42:51,272 --> 00:42:59,112
like you can totally see all these different like um um just imagine like just imagine like a german

570
00:42:59,112 --> 00:43:05,692
what's his name drone powell but as a bot like an ai agent like just like just like doing running

571
00:43:05,692 --> 00:43:12,132
the economy of the world just like with stable coins uh so i could totally see that i but i still

572
00:43:12,132 --> 00:43:17,492
think like as far as like bitcoin i think it's just going to be able to dominate in its own

573
00:43:17,492 --> 00:43:21,992
frictionless decentralized nature and i think that's what he's hitting and hitting with this

574
00:43:21,992 --> 00:43:26,512
piece it's just like it's just kind of you're playing in its own it's playing in its own

575
00:43:26,512 --> 00:43:31,492
playground basically and it was born here like it's kind of like the bane thing right it's like

576
00:43:31,492 --> 00:43:37,472
i was i was born in the dark so yeah i think you know i want to believe that too that bitcoin will

577
00:43:37,472 --> 00:43:45,072
eventually went out it just confirms my own biases so i'm i'm skeptical of predicting the

578
00:43:45,072 --> 00:43:49,952
future will turn out exactly how i wanted to which is where bitcoin wins i was i was totally

579
00:43:49,952 --> 00:43:56,832
like you at the beginning of the year 100 like it this made me feel a lot better um

580
00:43:56,832 --> 00:44:02,792
and i'm not 100 better but it's at least i'm a little bit more optimistic than i was

581
00:44:02,792 --> 00:44:06,832
earlier this month.

582
00:44:08,172 --> 00:44:09,972
Which, you know, is good.

583
00:44:10,932 --> 00:44:14,032
It's not good to be Doomer in your own thing that you're working on, right?

584
00:44:16,172 --> 00:44:18,632
So this is definitely good timing by Roy.

585
00:44:20,392 --> 00:44:21,632
Anyways, I wanted to share that.

586
00:44:21,752 --> 00:44:25,592
And then the other thing was this thing I think is hilarious.

587
00:44:26,752 --> 00:44:29,412
So this got shared on Stacker News.

588
00:44:29,832 --> 00:44:31,312
This is why I love Stacker News, Keon.

589
00:44:31,312 --> 00:44:38,092
is because we can go from really highly intellectual stablecoin fintech infrastructure stuff

590
00:44:38,092 --> 00:44:40,832
and even talk about squatting and stuff like that.

591
00:44:40,892 --> 00:44:44,912
Then we go to really hilarious things like why cats always land on their feet.

592
00:44:45,652 --> 00:44:47,432
Hey, it's me, Destin. Welcome back to Smart Every Day.

593
00:44:47,432 --> 00:44:51,572
So you've probably observed that cats almost always land on their feet.

594
00:44:51,892 --> 00:44:56,912
He literally went out of his way to figure out why cats land on their feet.

595
00:44:58,132 --> 00:45:00,692
And so I'll mute this so people can do it.

596
00:45:00,692 --> 00:45:03,432
But, like, why do you think cats always under the feet, Keon?

597
00:45:05,192 --> 00:45:05,892
I don't know.

598
00:45:05,972 --> 00:45:10,832
They have something in their brain that forces them to want to be upright.

599
00:45:11,212 --> 00:45:11,572
Wrong.

600
00:45:12,212 --> 00:45:15,792
Turns out it's a little bit of everything.

601
00:45:15,992 --> 00:45:16,672
It's their tail.

602
00:45:17,092 --> 00:45:19,812
It's their eyes, their ears.

603
00:45:21,092 --> 00:45:23,132
Yeah, he goes into it.

604
00:45:23,132 --> 00:45:25,812
He even gets, like, a high-res camera, slow-mo camera.

605
00:45:27,812 --> 00:45:29,512
I mean, don't try this at home.

606
00:45:29,512 --> 00:45:37,332
but this is this is the like a cat that he has and so he shows you how the cat will like literally

607
00:45:37,332 --> 00:45:42,392
land on its feet every single time and he's lining him in a soft little box so he's not

608
00:45:42,392 --> 00:45:49,212
hurting but look at the look at the gracefulness of the cat he helps out right away and this is

609
00:45:49,212 --> 00:45:55,312
this is a cat that was trained this is uh this is like a stunt a stunt cat basically no cats were

610
00:45:55,312 --> 00:45:59,952
harmed and the no cats are harmed so he even goes even further he's like hey let's we got to do this

611
00:45:59,952 --> 00:46:05,412
we got to do this way better he then he tilts him like 180 degrees because he thinks that maybe

612
00:46:05,412 --> 00:46:11,152
he's just not doing it right so he tilts him 180 degrees i love how the cat is just cool with me

613
00:46:11,152 --> 00:46:15,632
no because he's a stunt cat like he's like that so look boom and then you would see like how did

614
00:46:15,632 --> 00:46:23,572
he do that but look the cat uses his tail this time to then shift to find his like where is the

615
00:46:23,572 --> 00:46:28,332
center of gravity like where's like see he look as soon as the cat finds center of gravity he never

616
00:46:28,332 --> 00:46:36,332
stops his head stays forward there do you see how his head stays forward yeah but i don't as soon as

617
00:46:36,332 --> 00:46:42,352
the cat finds center of gravity you just that's it okay that's what it is about how not why okay

618
00:46:42,352 --> 00:46:46,272
then he goes into like he says this can't like he would have tried with this cat because this is

619
00:46:46,272 --> 00:46:53,212
not a stunt cat it's not a trained it's not trained not trained i don't know why he's

620
00:46:53,212 --> 00:46:59,392
But anyway, yeah, they even have astronauts doing this.

621
00:46:59,392 --> 00:47:02,832
And then this young kid tries it with his own cat.

622
00:47:04,572 --> 00:47:06,612
See, this is where it gets kind of dark.

623
00:47:06,932 --> 00:47:11,832
But anyways, just wanted to share this because somebody shared this on Stacker News.

624
00:47:12,232 --> 00:47:13,772
They have cats without tails.

625
00:47:13,932 --> 00:47:14,232
I wonder.

626
00:47:14,892 --> 00:47:15,272
Oh, yeah.

627
00:47:15,292 --> 00:47:17,072
I think he even tested one without tails.

628
00:47:19,332 --> 00:47:20,672
Because there's different ones.

629
00:47:20,672 --> 00:47:25,812
but apparently they apparently like once the cat finds this it's like a baseline whatever

630
00:47:25,812 --> 00:47:32,032
he looks see how the eyes see how his eyes find the ground and then look do you not think you

631
00:47:32,032 --> 00:47:37,472
would do that if you were no you would just stare up at the sky i would die like i'm not a cat but

632
00:47:37,472 --> 00:47:45,912
look look what the other cat's never had never changes the cat's so smart dude anyways i thought

633
00:47:45,912 --> 00:47:51,092
you'd get kicked out of that you used to have a cat right i did it it disappeared maybe someone

634
00:47:51,092 --> 00:47:57,452
tried to try this experiment and it like fell on its head maybe super tried this experiment yeah

635
00:47:57,452 --> 00:48:04,472
anyways anyways thought that was funny maybe the cat learned about cowboy credits

636
00:48:04,472 --> 00:48:12,872
but look he goes into it i just love stuff like this where it's just like

637
00:48:12,872 --> 00:48:19,812
really hard science in the dumbest things it's like this is the kind of stuff i love

638
00:48:19,812 --> 00:48:28,952
anyways thought this was hilarious uh just wanted to share that um then we're gonna jump into

639
00:48:28,952 --> 00:48:33,632
let's jump into your pick right we haven't done yours oh yeah condo life in singapore

640
00:48:33,632 --> 00:48:40,212
yeah uh i thought this was fun uh i guess crypto sensei was renovating his permanent dwelling

641
00:48:40,212 --> 00:48:41,332
his house.

642
00:48:42,392 --> 00:48:44,592
I guess while that was happening,

643
00:48:44,752 --> 00:48:46,412
they gave a

644
00:48:46,412 --> 00:48:48,632
metropolitan condo a try.

645
00:48:49,792 --> 00:48:50,592
It was just kind of

646
00:48:50,592 --> 00:48:52,532
fun hearing about his experience doing that.

647
00:48:52,672 --> 00:48:54,152
I guess he... That looks nice.

648
00:48:54,252 --> 00:48:56,372
I guess they enjoyed the amenities quite a bit because they had

649
00:48:56,372 --> 00:48:58,332
gyms

650
00:48:58,912 --> 00:49:00,692
and pools

651
00:49:00,692 --> 00:49:02,292
and stuff that his family could use

652
00:49:02,292 --> 00:49:04,412
that were easier

653
00:49:04,412 --> 00:49:05,612
to access and then

654
00:49:05,612 --> 00:49:08,332
had nice big windows, which you

655
00:49:08,332 --> 00:49:09,972
don't get in a normal home.

656
00:49:10,212 --> 00:49:13,232
like floor-to-floor ceiling windows.

657
00:49:15,192 --> 00:49:16,652
I don't know, it was just fun hearing about his experience.

658
00:49:16,772 --> 00:49:21,492
And he said it was, you know, he paid a hefty price to be able to try it out.

659
00:49:21,492 --> 00:49:26,192
I think he said it was $5,000 a month, which, you know,

660
00:49:26,212 --> 00:49:32,012
on a short-term lease in Singapore, I would guess is probably pretty typical,

661
00:49:32,372 --> 00:49:37,132
but suggests maybe the apartment he was staying in is, on a year lease,

662
00:49:37,232 --> 00:49:39,812
maybe like $3,000 to $4,000 U.S. dollars.

663
00:49:40,212 --> 00:49:44,252
which is much different than Austin's prices.

664
00:49:45,852 --> 00:49:47,312
Look at that pool, dude.

665
00:49:48,672 --> 00:49:49,912
Pool's humongous.

666
00:49:50,992 --> 00:49:52,512
It is quite a large pool.

667
00:49:52,752 --> 00:49:55,572
It looks like it's serving a lot of apartments.

668
00:49:56,292 --> 00:49:58,772
It looks like it even goes over the edge over there.

669
00:49:58,872 --> 00:50:00,072
I wonder if it's one of those edge pools.

670
00:50:00,632 --> 00:50:01,292
Infinity pool?

671
00:50:01,552 --> 00:50:02,452
Oh, is that what that's called?

672
00:50:02,512 --> 00:50:03,112
Infinity pool?

673
00:50:03,252 --> 00:50:05,592
Yeah, where it looks like it goes off into infinity.

674
00:50:05,952 --> 00:50:06,432
Look at that.

675
00:50:08,292 --> 00:50:08,692
Yeah.

676
00:50:08,692 --> 00:50:10,672
I just thought, I think

677
00:50:10,672 --> 00:50:12,752
the only con he mentioned was that

678
00:50:12,752 --> 00:50:14,932
it was a little too

679
00:50:14,932 --> 00:50:16,772
tight. And with

680
00:50:16,772 --> 00:50:18,852
two kids, it felt

681
00:50:18,852 --> 00:50:19,952
like he couldn't really get away.

682
00:50:20,792 --> 00:50:22,352
Surprise, it's 5k a month

683
00:50:22,352 --> 00:50:24,172
in Singapore.

684
00:50:25,692 --> 00:50:26,812
Singapore is very

685
00:50:26,812 --> 00:50:28,172
expensive.

686
00:50:28,932 --> 00:50:30,032
It's always been expensive.

687
00:50:30,832 --> 00:50:31,912
Yeah. Interesting.

688
00:50:33,172 --> 00:50:34,212
Cool stuff.

689
00:50:34,792 --> 00:50:35,792
That looks fun, dude.

690
00:50:36,292 --> 00:50:37,792
They had one of those in the Yucatan.

691
00:50:37,792 --> 00:50:41,352
man there's like all these kids that were playing in that thing because it was just like

692
00:50:41,352 --> 00:50:46,732
a blast they have those in corpus too i used to love those things they just scored out water

693
00:50:46,732 --> 00:50:50,732
yeah i mean well people aren't really having kids anymore so maybe we'll get more places like that

694
00:50:50,732 --> 00:50:55,712
for adults they'll have be like a beer on tap and just running through i don't know what else

695
00:50:55,712 --> 00:51:02,452
pickleball cool stuff um let's jump into the ai stuff this week so i wanted to share this because

696
00:51:02,452 --> 00:51:04,832
I think it's really fascinating.

697
00:51:05,532 --> 00:51:07,372
So Confessions to a Data Lake.

698
00:51:07,892 --> 00:51:09,952
This is from Moxie, more than Spike.

699
00:51:10,572 --> 00:51:15,432
So this was a post from Moxie.

700
00:51:16,152 --> 00:51:17,652
He used to be a Signal.

701
00:51:19,212 --> 00:51:20,292
He said, I found a Signal.

702
00:51:20,912 --> 00:51:21,012
Huh?

703
00:51:21,272 --> 00:51:21,792
One of the founders.

704
00:51:21,892 --> 00:51:22,752
One of the founders of Signal.

705
00:51:22,832 --> 00:51:25,732
He says, I'm building Confer end-to-end encryption for AI chats.

706
00:51:26,212 --> 00:51:30,232
With Confer, your conversations are encrypted so that nobody else can see them.

707
00:51:31,152 --> 00:51:32,312
Confer can't read them.

708
00:51:32,312 --> 00:51:37,752
train on them or hand them over because only you have access to them sounds like something that um

709
00:51:37,752 --> 00:51:44,012
a person we know is building yeah sounds like maple ai um what's interesting about this is

710
00:51:44,012 --> 00:51:50,592
down here um right here he says advertising is coming what is new is that email and social

711
00:51:50,592 --> 00:51:55,012
media are interfaces where mostly mostly post completed thoughts ai assistants are a medium

712
00:51:55,012 --> 00:51:59,432
that invite us to post our uncompleted thoughts when you work through a problem with an ai

713
00:51:59,432 --> 00:52:03,432
assistant, you're not just revealing information, revealing how you think, your reasoning patterns,

714
00:52:03,572 --> 00:52:07,072
your uncertainties, the things you're curious about, but don't know the gaps in your knowledge,

715
00:52:07,132 --> 00:52:11,232
the shape of your mental model. When your advertising comes to AI assistants, they will

716
00:52:11,232 --> 00:52:15,432
slowly become oriented around convincing us of something, to buy something, to join something,

717
00:52:15,432 --> 00:52:18,932
to identify with something, but they will be armed with total knowledge of your context,

718
00:52:19,052 --> 00:52:24,092
your concerns, your hesitations. It will be as if a third party pays your therapist to convince you

719
00:52:24,092 --> 00:52:28,772
of something. I thought that was fascinating because this is something that I've been hearing

720
00:52:28,772 --> 00:52:32,652
in my ear from Tony for like a year and a half at this point.

721
00:52:34,052 --> 00:52:34,792
It's wild.

722
00:52:36,232 --> 00:52:37,272
What do you think about that?

723
00:52:38,372 --> 00:52:43,592
Yeah, I think it is concerning how much information they're going to be able to get from you.

724
00:52:45,252 --> 00:52:47,412
And they can build a better model about you.

725
00:52:47,612 --> 00:52:53,152
But then again, if you're doing things like, if they're able to listen to your conversations

726
00:52:53,152 --> 00:52:56,552
that you're having with people or reading your chat messages or reading, like not just

727
00:52:56,552 --> 00:53:00,612
of the AI, but other people, your DMs on platforms, your emails, things like that.

728
00:53:00,892 --> 00:53:04,872
I'm not sure this is much more invasive, actually.

729
00:53:05,032 --> 00:53:08,252
It seems like, but it is par for the course, which sucks.

730
00:53:08,712 --> 00:53:13,792
It seems like we're already all kind of over the invasion of privacy that we already have.

731
00:53:13,832 --> 00:53:17,032
And you'd hope this new generation of technology gets rid of that.

732
00:53:17,332 --> 00:53:18,592
And it's just like more of it.

733
00:53:19,232 --> 00:53:26,252
I think the other thing that might be, yeah, a little bit different is that you are,

734
00:53:26,552 --> 00:53:30,812
interacting with these things in a way that you don't typically like normally we're interacting

735
00:53:30,812 --> 00:53:34,212
with another human being and then they're like harvesting all the data from us interacting with

736
00:53:34,212 --> 00:53:41,532
other human beings but and but like these systems are communicating with us like a human being would

737
00:53:41,532 --> 00:53:49,272
and so maybe they have more access to changing our behavior than the other problem with me is like

738
00:53:49,272 --> 00:53:56,012
most of the stuff is like infrastructure at this point or at least how i how i how i treat it and

739
00:53:56,012 --> 00:54:03,412
And so it's kind of frustrating because I don't need ads in my email.

740
00:54:04,172 --> 00:54:07,432
I don't need ads in my AI chat.

741
00:54:07,512 --> 00:54:07,952
You know what I mean?

742
00:54:08,412 --> 00:54:09,812
That's the last thing I need.

743
00:54:09,812 --> 00:54:12,332
Do you pay for OpenAI's chat?

744
00:54:12,452 --> 00:54:22,552
No, but what I'm trying to say is it's just frustrating because it's kind of like when Microsoft is dropping ads in their operating system.

745
00:54:22,812 --> 00:54:25,312
It's like, who needs ads in their operating system?

746
00:54:25,312 --> 00:54:27,952
It's like the last place you need ads.

747
00:54:28,852 --> 00:54:29,772
But I get it.

748
00:54:30,192 --> 00:54:31,212
It's just unfortunate.

749
00:54:33,052 --> 00:54:33,492
Anyways.

750
00:54:35,632 --> 00:54:37,612
The other one I wanted to bring up was this one

751
00:54:37,612 --> 00:54:38,812
because it kind of goes hand in hand.

752
00:54:39,012 --> 00:54:41,732
ChatGBT may start recommending sponsored products

753
00:54:41,732 --> 00:54:43,112
in ChatGBT replies.

754
00:54:43,732 --> 00:54:46,672
So this was released by the information.

755
00:54:47,392 --> 00:54:49,412
OpenAI's ads push starts taking shape.

756
00:54:50,012 --> 00:54:52,152
So basically executives have kept a tight lid

757
00:54:52,152 --> 00:54:53,632
on how the company could show advertisements

758
00:54:53,632 --> 00:54:59,732
and users of popular chat gbt chatbot um and it's it's kind of frustrating but it makes sense if you

759
00:54:59,732 --> 00:55:06,732
look at it they ballooned up to 900 million weekly active users since 2022 um and they're expected to

760
00:55:06,732 --> 00:55:15,032
grow to 2.6 billion weekly active users by 2030 um so they're just leaving so much fiat dollars on

761
00:55:15,032 --> 00:55:23,512
the table at this point um yeah what do you think about that and right now they're if you read the

762
00:55:23,512 --> 00:55:29,412
whole article they're talking about how they're figuring out ways to like when to show an ad and

763
00:55:29,412 --> 00:55:34,852
when not to show an ad if you're looking up like what's the best place to eat in austin then it

764
00:55:34,852 --> 00:55:41,772
would show an ad versus maybe not all that kind of stuff yeah i mean uh this is kind of inevitable

765
00:55:41,772 --> 00:55:46,972
if their business is not, like, customers aren't willing to pay for things.

766
00:55:47,072 --> 00:55:50,452
They're going to get an advertiser to pay for the customer

767
00:55:50,452 --> 00:55:53,032
and then show the customer ads.

768
00:55:53,212 --> 00:55:55,452
That's kind of how these things work.

769
00:55:57,532 --> 00:55:59,992
So I'm not super surprised.

770
00:56:00,812 --> 00:56:03,872
You know, you would hope that given how much, you know,

771
00:56:03,892 --> 00:56:07,072
if they do have extra insight and extra abilities

772
00:56:07,072 --> 00:56:08,672
that they can provide better ads,

773
00:56:08,672 --> 00:56:14,532
than you get in something like search results or microsoft's operating system um maybe more

774
00:56:14,532 --> 00:56:23,072
targeted and maybe and you know the good parts of targeting maybe get serve as a benefit here

775
00:56:23,072 --> 00:56:29,372
it almost makes you be a little bit worrisome because you start playing the sound um like you

776
00:56:29,372 --> 00:56:36,352
start playing the tape out a little bit further like do they start censoring information um that

777
00:56:36,352 --> 00:56:41,932
is like do you stop being referenced as like right now they're they're they're leveraging

778
00:56:41,932 --> 00:56:47,352
stacker news and all its ability to um like all the alpha that you have on stacker news right

779
00:56:47,352 --> 00:56:51,172
they're leveraging i don't know if you know this but like if you go and chat gbt they'll reference

780
00:56:51,172 --> 00:56:57,132
stacker news for posts or whatever but at some point you could see them say hey kion we're not

781
00:56:57,132 --> 00:57:01,312
going to use your information anymore because we already grabbed it and we're not going to put your

782
00:57:01,312 --> 00:57:02,652
little icon on there anymore.

783
00:57:03,312 --> 00:57:04,332
You got to pay us for that.

784
00:57:05,552 --> 00:57:06,352
Yeah, I wouldn't pay them.

785
00:57:06,692 --> 00:57:09,112
But it goes to

786
00:57:09,112 --> 00:57:11,292
that being a possibility at some point

787
00:57:11,292 --> 00:57:13,252
because at some point they're just going to

788
00:57:13,252 --> 00:57:15,492
take all the information that they have from you.

789
00:57:17,092 --> 00:57:18,492
They're going to then

790
00:57:18,492 --> 00:57:33,208
make their own kind of like slop of it and then re it back and calling it their own um yeah well that i mean that kind of sucks and it kind of crappy but i you know that why i saying the story i feel like

791
00:57:33,208 --> 00:57:37,128
it's going to go yeah i think that's a fair direction they'll go and i think another direction

792
00:57:37,128 --> 00:57:42,188
they'll go in is maybe they're giving you the third best place to get a taco in austin because

793
00:57:42,188 --> 00:57:46,888
the third best place to get a taco in austin paid them to say so that they're the best place

794
00:57:46,888 --> 00:57:54,348
and so i think that's more so the direction it goes in as they they start biasing their answers

795
00:57:54,348 --> 00:58:00,208
towards where they get money from kind of like how google search results kind of don't don't

796
00:58:00,208 --> 00:58:04,448
represent you know the best things the best locations to find certain things on the internet

797
00:58:04,448 --> 00:58:11,028
anymore because they have incentives that pull them another way and so if you keep playing that

798
00:58:11,028 --> 00:58:18,128
tape out then then what's the solution to that is a solution a private ll or a private chat bot that

799
00:58:18,128 --> 00:58:25,288
we personally host ourselves or is it one that is yeah what's the solution there is it one that we

800
00:58:25,288 --> 00:58:31,708
self-host or yeah self-hosting could be a solution because you're there's no you're paying for

801
00:58:31,708 --> 00:58:37,908
everything um another is using a a provider that doesn't do advertising so where you you would have

802
00:58:37,908 --> 00:58:48,048
to pay them. Basically, what you're looking for is a way to use an LLM and get all the power of an

803
00:58:48,048 --> 00:58:58,688
LLM within a system that doesn't have incentives to do this to you. Because even if OpenAI has the

804
00:58:58,688 --> 00:59:03,668
best intentions, at some point, they're not going to be able to make any more money until they do

805
00:59:03,668 --> 00:59:07,288
some of these gross things. At some point, they can't grow that 10% a year because they've already

806
00:59:07,288 --> 00:59:12,048
saturated the market and that's kind of what you saw with google they were not evil until they ran

807
00:59:12,048 --> 00:59:15,848
out of ways to make money there's a ceiling and then yeah and then eventually they if they really

808
00:59:15,848 --> 00:59:20,808
realized if well if we're a little evil we can make we can make the you know report our earnings

809
00:59:20,808 --> 00:59:25,888
this year and get get the stock price going to increase and then they get more evil and more

810
00:59:25,888 --> 00:59:32,828
and it's just kind of like the incentives lead you yeah in a bad place so yeah there's a you know

811
00:59:32,828 --> 00:59:38,488
private the private lms are another way maybe um my although i expect i suspect a lot of those

812
00:59:38,488 --> 00:59:42,848
will still have ads in them but maybe it'll be less targeted and less invasive um

813
00:59:42,848 --> 00:59:51,688
yeah it almost seems like only private lms and then some sort of open source thing yeah the hope

814
00:59:51,688 --> 00:59:55,388
would be a lot of self-hosted stuff like most of your needs can be met with a self-hosted but we

815
00:59:55,388 --> 01:00:01,328
want to like you want to you want to talk to einstein you go to one of these cloud yeah models

816
01:00:01,328 --> 01:00:09,328
yeah all right well that's all the posts i think we got this week i believe

817
01:00:09,328 --> 01:00:17,568
um and we're gonna jump into meta you had the no trust new november yeah so we're running an

818
01:00:17,568 --> 01:00:22,668
experiment right now where we don't use trust and ranking anymore and everything is based purely on

819
01:00:22,668 --> 01:00:31,028
the sats that are sacrificed and to the either by zapping or boosting or down zapping um yeah

820
01:00:31,028 --> 01:00:32,948
And that kind of that's running right now.

821
01:00:33,008 --> 01:00:38,828
I was we call this no trust November because I was teasing it in October because I thought I would get it done in November.

822
01:00:39,248 --> 01:00:40,308
But that didn't happen.

823
01:00:40,388 --> 01:00:42,148
And it happened instead now.

824
01:00:43,368 --> 01:00:45,868
So no trust November in December.

825
01:00:46,388 --> 01:00:50,968
And, yeah, I'd say it's going well-ish.

826
01:00:51,408 --> 01:00:54,248
We're still, you know, it's coincided with the holiday.

827
01:00:54,248 --> 01:00:59,548
So it's a bit hard to tell exactly what the impact of it is.

828
01:01:01,028 --> 01:01:03,108
but it's interesting.

829
01:01:03,748 --> 01:01:08,888
It is a lot simpler and more obvious and we'll see how,

830
01:01:09,768 --> 01:01:11,108
see how it plays out.

831
01:01:11,628 --> 01:01:17,788
The other one that you had was browser translations.

832
01:01:18,228 --> 01:01:18,428
Yeah.

833
01:01:18,488 --> 01:01:18,568
Well,

834
01:01:18,588 --> 01:01:19,768
we launched the new editor.

835
01:01:19,968 --> 01:01:24,928
I think we talked about that a few weeks ago and it had this deficiency in it

836
01:01:24,928 --> 01:01:29,688
where it wouldn't allow people who are non English speakers to translate the

837
01:01:29,688 --> 01:01:33,308
page or for the content of posts. And so that was fixed in this.

838
01:01:33,888 --> 01:01:37,048
Additionally, there were some other bugs related to certain Android keyboards.

839
01:01:37,168 --> 01:01:41,948
I guess there's a lot of like non-Android

840
01:01:41,948 --> 01:01:45,708
people making Android keyboards and

841
01:01:45,708 --> 01:01:49,768
they are buggy. And I guess you have to defend yourself against them.

842
01:01:51,048 --> 01:01:53,928
And so, yeah, we've been releasing some fixes related to that

843
01:01:53,928 --> 01:01:57,968
that hopefully solve those issues, but it can

844
01:01:57,968 --> 01:02:00,088
be kind of tricky. But that's

845
01:02:00,088 --> 01:02:01,628
the other meta that

846
01:02:01,628 --> 01:02:03,668
encapsulates both of these metas. We had the

847
01:02:03,668 --> 01:02:04,708
translation issue

848
01:02:04,708 --> 01:02:07,448
and we have these Android,

849
01:02:07,848 --> 01:02:09,748
certain Android keyboard issue.

850
01:02:10,668 --> 01:02:11,508
Specifically like

851
01:02:11,508 --> 01:02:13,988
the open source

852
01:02:13,988 --> 01:02:16,328
Android's

853
01:02:16,328 --> 01:02:17,968
open source keyboard doesn't have fixes

854
01:02:17,968 --> 01:02:19,928
for this in it. And so

855
01:02:19,928 --> 01:02:22,148
graphing other

856
01:02:22,148 --> 01:02:24,168
people that have derivative keyboards on that

857
01:02:24,168 --> 01:02:26,408
they also

858
01:02:26,408 --> 01:02:31,428
had issues but yeah optimism said this is the ultimate upside of developing in public yes it's

859
01:02:31,428 --> 01:02:36,328
hard mode compared to the safety of a private repo but look at the undiluted awesome you get for it

860
01:02:36,328 --> 01:02:43,068
thanks for not adopting the goog ms signal model of throwing the blueprint to a walt garden over

861
01:02:43,068 --> 01:02:50,848
the fence aka virtue signal fos what does he mean by walt gardening over the fence um what did he

862
01:02:50,848 --> 01:02:52,468
say? Walt Garden over the fence.

863
01:02:52,688 --> 01:02:54,468
He was praising y'all's being

864
01:02:54,468 --> 01:02:56,448
open about the repo and stuff.

865
01:02:56,708 --> 01:02:57,248
Yeah, I think

866
01:02:57,248 --> 01:03:00,608
there are levels to open source.

867
01:03:01,728 --> 01:03:02,908
You can have a

868
01:03:02,908 --> 01:03:04,768
project that's sort of open source and name, or

869
01:03:04,768 --> 01:03:06,828
you can't actually run it, and no one can really contribute

870
01:03:06,828 --> 01:03:08,908
to it because you don't make an effort to try to get them to.

871
01:03:08,908 --> 01:03:10,908
It takes a lot of effort to

872
01:03:10,908 --> 01:03:12,568
make something easy to contribute to.

873
01:03:12,648 --> 01:03:13,908
That's one level.

874
01:03:14,708 --> 01:03:16,408
I guess that's what he would probably mean for Signal.

875
01:03:16,608 --> 01:03:18,008
It's unapproachable as

876
01:03:18,008 --> 01:03:20,588
someone who wants to contribute to it.

877
01:03:20,848 --> 01:03:27,188
Um, and then you have, you know, Microsoft's and Google's that maybe don't, a lot of their

878
01:03:27,188 --> 01:03:28,308
stuff isn't open source.

879
01:03:28,528 --> 01:03:31,128
So they're just like levels to open sourceness.

880
01:03:31,208 --> 01:03:31,768
Oh, interesting.

881
01:03:32,028 --> 01:03:34,348
And so by, um, yeah.

882
01:03:34,488 --> 01:03:39,568
And so Ricardo chipped in, like we published that issue and then I was getting DMs that

883
01:03:39,568 --> 01:03:44,648
Ricardo was working really hard on solving this problem, which we had no idea what the

884
01:03:44,648 --> 01:03:46,988
cause was until he figured it out.

885
01:03:46,988 --> 01:03:51,448
And we actually couldn't find from other people experiencing similar issues.

886
01:03:51,548 --> 01:04:00,108
They had no solution for it because we're using a fairly popular like core thing component here from Facebook.

887
01:04:00,108 --> 01:04:02,408
And the Facebook engineers are like, we don't know what to do.

888
01:04:03,248 --> 01:04:04,608
So they hadn't solved the problem.

889
01:04:04,608 --> 01:04:07,468
But Ricardo was like, oh, this is just like a race condition.

890
01:04:07,468 --> 01:04:20,788
And like if you have a very powerful phone and you're typing on one of these keyboards, it is not properly guarded against race conditions and it'll end up sending you a bunch of conflicting events.

891
01:04:20,788 --> 01:04:22,488
And so you just have to like silence it.

892
01:04:22,828 --> 01:04:23,668
So that's what he did.

893
01:04:23,688 --> 01:04:25,328
And he found the solution pretty fast.

894
01:04:25,708 --> 01:04:30,168
So it's just like some dumb thing that has never been accounted for, never been documented.

895
01:04:30,168 --> 01:04:31,748
Well, it's well known.

896
01:04:31,748 --> 01:04:33,808
these issues exist but

897
01:04:33,808 --> 01:04:36,348
they just continue

898
01:04:36,348 --> 01:04:37,588
because Google doesn't care

899
01:04:37,588 --> 01:04:40,128
because they're not, most people who are

900
01:04:40,128 --> 01:04:41,908
using Google's operating system aren't using these

901
01:04:41,908 --> 01:04:43,128
keyboards and so

902
01:04:43,128 --> 01:04:45,928
they don't care. Then you had this one

903
01:04:45,928 --> 01:04:48,028
fix for Android keyboards, is the same thing related

904
01:04:48,028 --> 01:04:48,888
to that four hours ago?

905
01:04:49,848 --> 01:04:51,168
Yeah, that was today we

906
01:04:51,168 --> 01:04:53,928
submitted some of those

907
01:04:53,928 --> 01:04:55,868
or we deployed some of those

908
01:04:55,868 --> 01:04:57,808
fixes to those Android keyboards finally.

909
01:04:57,808 --> 01:04:59,368
Awesome. Cool.

910
01:04:59,768 --> 01:05:01,128
And then people got paid

911
01:05:01,128 --> 01:05:08,388
people got paid sats yeah for the work so that was an we have like levels to bounties on our

912
01:05:08,388 --> 01:05:18,668
open source contributions and uh that one was urgent urgent and hard and so that that was a

913
01:05:18,668 --> 01:05:27,908
three million sat bounty on damn hey pays to work on second news and then the other thing i wanted

914
01:05:27,908 --> 01:05:35,228
sure was we released the snl dvd on christmas day um you can find it on fountain and uh it's there

915
01:05:35,228 --> 01:05:48,148
look at us young unabashed bitcoiners in 2021 goob or no 2022 goob uh but yeah check it out

916
01:05:48,148 --> 01:05:54,068
it's on fountain it's a bonus cool you have to be a subscriber right no it's free oh okay it's free

917
01:05:54,068 --> 01:05:57,608
I mean, I dropped it two days earlier for our subscribers.

918
01:05:58,228 --> 01:06:03,048
But every time we do that, we always drop it for free just later.

919
01:06:05,128 --> 01:06:05,648
You know?

920
01:06:06,248 --> 01:06:06,648
Awesome.

921
01:06:07,208 --> 01:06:07,508
Yeah.

922
01:06:07,928 --> 01:06:08,488
It's fun.

923
01:06:08,628 --> 01:06:09,288
We watched it.

924
01:06:10,008 --> 01:06:10,768
I didn't share that.

925
01:06:10,908 --> 01:06:11,908
No, I didn't share that one.

926
01:06:12,548 --> 01:06:14,168
No, you got to get the DVD for that one.

927
01:06:14,368 --> 01:06:15,188
That one's two.

928
01:06:15,568 --> 01:06:16,468
Yeah, we go a little.

929
01:06:16,588 --> 01:06:17,348
We go hard, bro.

930
01:06:17,348 --> 01:06:18,228
There was maybe a half an hour.

931
01:06:18,228 --> 01:06:18,868
I was drunk.

932
01:06:19,028 --> 01:06:20,408
Yeah, there was a half an hour of what?

933
01:06:20,408 --> 01:06:22,628
You can't hold me to that.

934
01:06:22,628 --> 01:06:24,428
I don't even remember what we were talking

935
01:06:24,428 --> 01:06:25,688
it was like something about

936
01:06:25,688 --> 01:06:27,308
oh we're going dark bro

937
01:06:27,308 --> 01:06:30,128
you gotta buy the DVD for that

938
01:06:30,128 --> 01:06:31,508
because cargo is really dark

939
01:06:31,508 --> 01:06:32,948
Coop tries to stop me

940
01:06:32,948 --> 01:06:36,128
I remember that week

941
01:06:36,128 --> 01:06:36,948
it was a hard week

942
01:06:36,948 --> 01:06:39,448
I was stressed out

943
01:06:39,448 --> 01:06:41,448
we were moving

944
01:06:41,448 --> 01:06:44,908
no F's given that week

945
01:06:44,908 --> 01:06:46,988
let it rip on that one

946
01:06:46,988 --> 01:06:47,748
but anyways

947
01:06:47,748 --> 01:06:51,068
yeah but the regular thing

948
01:06:51,068 --> 01:06:52,428
you can view it online

949
01:06:52,428 --> 01:06:55,488
for free and enjoy it.

950
01:06:55,768 --> 01:06:56,308
It was fun.

951
01:06:56,488 --> 01:06:58,348
I definitely, like when we were watching,

952
01:06:58,448 --> 01:06:59,788
I definitely enjoyed it because it was like

953
01:06:59,788 --> 01:07:02,228
blast from the past and kind of seeing

954
01:07:02,228 --> 01:07:04,288
what we were right about and what we were wrong about.

955
01:07:06,588 --> 01:07:08,168
Anyways, always cool to see.

956
01:07:09,448 --> 01:07:11,048
So that's that one.

957
01:07:11,048 --> 01:07:15,508
And then the other one was, I think that's it.

958
01:07:16,708 --> 01:07:18,308
I want to share the YouTube comments real quick.

959
01:07:18,388 --> 01:07:19,808
This is from Vake.

960
01:07:19,988 --> 01:07:21,228
He said, stay in Lomain.

961
01:07:21,228 --> 01:07:23,208
that was from the health

962
01:07:23,208 --> 01:07:25,868
location thing

963
01:07:25,868 --> 01:07:27,948
and then this other guy says

964
01:07:27,948 --> 01:07:29,908
because products produced by

965
01:07:29,908 --> 01:07:32,028
monopolies they are thoughtless pieces of trash

966
01:07:32,028 --> 01:07:33,968
see cool people

967
01:07:33,968 --> 01:07:35,908
are still

968
01:07:35,908 --> 01:07:37,488
commenting on the Gen Z thing

969
01:07:37,488 --> 01:07:39,068
the retro thing

970
01:07:39,068 --> 01:07:40,608
oh that's when that's from

971
01:07:40,608 --> 01:07:42,788
oh Vake's late

972
01:07:42,788 --> 01:07:45,208
he's not been keeping up with us

973
01:07:45,208 --> 01:07:47,328
yeah I think he's a busy guy

974
01:07:47,328 --> 01:07:48,888
he's probably been at the bar

975
01:07:48,888 --> 01:07:51,128
maybe he's on the slow land

976
01:07:51,128 --> 01:07:52,868
What's the lane he's staying in?

977
01:07:53,228 --> 01:07:54,608
He's in the rice noodle lane.

978
01:07:55,508 --> 01:07:57,288
Stay in the rice noodle lane.

979
01:07:57,708 --> 01:07:58,068
Oh.

980
01:07:58,748 --> 01:08:00,268
And then we got found comments.

981
01:08:00,928 --> 01:08:02,948
One from Boog said, Zap.

982
01:08:03,508 --> 01:08:06,488
Undisciplined said, Squatter's rights would make a great rabbit hole.

983
01:08:07,668 --> 01:08:09,568
And then this other user said, stay in your lane.

984
01:08:10,788 --> 01:08:11,568
So, yeah.

985
01:08:12,988 --> 01:08:13,908
Pretty cool stuff.

986
01:08:13,908 --> 01:08:19,388
Check out the Stacker Sports podcast because they're doing their yearly.

987
01:08:19,388 --> 01:08:21,948
well I know Super Bowl's coming or the NFL playoffs

988
01:08:21,948 --> 01:08:23,408
are coming up but they're also the

989
01:08:23,408 --> 01:08:26,188
the fantasy sports

990
01:08:26,188 --> 01:08:28,028
stuff is ending. Are you gonna

991
01:08:28,028 --> 01:08:29,288
play along?

992
01:08:29,788 --> 01:08:32,048
No I didn't make the play. I couldn't log

993
01:08:32,048 --> 01:08:34,048
in. I'm opting

994
01:08:34,048 --> 01:08:35,348
guys if you're listening to this

995
01:08:35,348 --> 01:08:37,888
I'm opting that we do something a little bit easier

996
01:08:37,888 --> 01:08:39,888
like NFL.com

997
01:08:39,888 --> 01:08:41,528
because they use like a totally

998
01:08:41,528 --> 01:08:43,588
like a really hard platform

999
01:08:43,588 --> 01:08:46,068
What do they use? I don't know. It was some weird

1000
01:08:46,068 --> 01:08:47,528
platform I never heard of

1001
01:08:47,528 --> 01:08:52,108
to like i think gray ruby has been working on his own platform oh that's even better yeah let's do

1002
01:08:52,108 --> 01:08:58,148
something like that because it was it was rough oh it's like a fantasy sports it was a fancy sports

1003
01:08:58,148 --> 01:09:03,708
thing but it was like weird it was like it was and i couldn't find that password anymore and i was

1004
01:09:03,708 --> 01:09:08,708
just like okay i'm out real bitcoin dog he's been trying to do mine but i don't know if he's been

1005
01:09:08,708 --> 01:09:11,988
successful i don't know i haven't been following okay so you're interested in playing you just

1006
01:09:11,988 --> 01:09:18,348
yeah yeah because i'm playing on my regular i have my regular um my regular with my normie

1007
01:09:18,348 --> 01:09:25,108
friends fantasy football league and i actually made the i actually made the super bowl on this

1008
01:09:25,108 --> 01:09:32,068
one believe it or not yeah check this out how do you keep up with all the games how many games do

1009
01:09:32,068 --> 01:09:36,628
you watch a week see boys this is what this is what car could bring if it was a little bit simpler

1010
01:09:36,628 --> 01:09:45,188
to see look at that verify are you ranked wow it says that he is 7.6 is that good no that's that's

1011
01:09:45,188 --> 01:09:49,768
on the right that's my friend daniel that's your friend so what is how what would i say

1012
01:09:49,768 --> 01:09:54,488
i'm on the left side okay so i'm in the super bowl see if fantasy super bowl yeah it says

1013
01:09:54,488 --> 01:10:02,768
fantasy super bowl for 114.22 is the number is that good it's very good oh okay i'm just saying

1014
01:10:02,768 --> 01:10:12,448
yeah well let's fix it for next year boys let's do it um let's jump into

1015
01:10:12,448 --> 01:10:20,368
um top cowboys key on top cowboys the most popular segment in bitcoin people

1016
01:10:20,368 --> 01:10:24,908
stop everything and just i mean people came in from out of town just to come watch this

1017
01:10:24,908 --> 01:10:29,228
it's crazy watch this where are you guys where are you guys from

1018
01:10:29,228 --> 01:10:38,228
new mexico and where and boston wow you hear that stackers new mexico and boston just to watch the

1019
01:10:38,228 --> 01:10:43,068
most popular segment in bitcoin the cowboy segment the top cowboys top cowboys yeah can you believe

1020
01:10:43,068 --> 01:10:48,708
it this is crazy united states all over the united states yeah number one is hiding we don't know who

1021
01:10:48,708 --> 01:10:53,308
that is number two is kubb number three is undiscipline number four is blockchain boog

1022
01:10:53,308 --> 01:10:58,728
gray ruby we're also toshy i don't think anything's changed here no i think pretty stable at least in

1023
01:10:58,728 --> 01:11:05,008
the top 10 as it usually well top 15 maybe yeah i don't think i've seen any real movement solomon's

1024
01:11:05,008 --> 01:11:12,088
tosh is coming up 21 uh it was mercury clr do you guys use stacker news yes oh wow y'all also

1025
01:11:12,088 --> 01:11:17,968
you are stackers oh wow okay cool all right we'll have to we'll have to so they're stackers

1026
01:11:17,968 --> 01:11:22,048
stackers are you guys you don't have to dox yourself i know are you on this list

1027
01:11:22,048 --> 01:11:29,708
oh he just docks i didn't tell him i didn't tell him uh this is crazy

1028
01:11:29,708 --> 01:11:37,188
um where's new creations on here that oh let me see is he a cowboy on here well he runs a

1029
01:11:37,188 --> 01:11:44,088
christianity territory but i'm trying to find the um um i was just explaining the territory

1030
01:11:44,088 --> 01:11:50,728
oh where's the yeah i don't see him on here ah yeah see this is why you like i let people buy

1031
01:11:50,728 --> 01:11:51,808
their cowboy hat, Keon.

1032
01:11:52,268 --> 01:11:54,628
No, but then that makes it...

1033
01:11:54,628 --> 01:11:56,328
You don't have a cowboy hat.

1034
01:11:56,508 --> 01:11:57,308
Would you buy a cowboy hat?

1035
01:11:57,768 --> 01:11:59,708
Yeah, well...

1036
01:11:59,708 --> 01:12:01,728
Would you buy a cowboy hat if you could on Stacker News?

1037
01:12:02,708 --> 01:12:03,548
See, told you.

1038
01:12:03,928 --> 01:12:05,848
Yeah, but that mess is a store.

1039
01:12:06,028 --> 01:12:07,448
This segment wouldn't be...

1040
01:12:07,448 --> 01:12:08,028
It doesn't matter.

1041
01:12:08,608 --> 01:12:10,448
E2C sessions wouldn't be...

1042
01:12:10,448 --> 01:12:12,328
He's trying to shut us down.

1043
01:12:15,008 --> 01:12:16,848
Oh, yeah, maybe you can get a special hat.

1044
01:12:18,528 --> 01:12:18,928
Anyways.

1045
01:12:18,928 --> 01:12:22,028
I hate it when you can pay for things in a game.

1046
01:12:22,188 --> 01:12:23,568
When you can level up by paying.

1047
01:12:24,388 --> 01:12:24,988
Yeah, pay to win.

1048
01:12:25,728 --> 01:12:26,968
How many days do I have?

1049
01:12:26,968 --> 01:12:27,988
Yeah, that doesn't sound great.

1050
01:12:28,308 --> 01:12:28,908
Three days.

1051
01:12:29,108 --> 01:12:29,348
Boom.

1052
01:12:29,488 --> 01:12:30,128
I have three days.

1053
01:12:30,308 --> 01:12:30,668
That's good.

1054
01:12:30,908 --> 01:12:31,448
Wild car.

1055
01:12:31,928 --> 01:12:32,468
Coming up.

1056
01:12:33,588 --> 01:12:35,268
That's all I got here.

1057
01:12:35,688 --> 01:12:38,968
Let's go back there to this one.

1058
01:12:40,028 --> 01:12:41,108
And where is it at?

1059
01:12:41,448 --> 01:12:42,208
Go back here.

1060
01:12:42,288 --> 01:12:43,328
Do we have any comments down here?

1061
01:12:43,408 --> 01:12:43,828
Oh, we do.

1062
01:12:44,268 --> 01:12:45,568
BlacksheetBoot said Wimble's Picks.

1063
01:12:45,568 --> 01:12:52,848
says i'm late but i do have sn zine post whoa boom wow from from the hospital she from the

1064
01:12:52,848 --> 01:12:59,468
hospital oh she's sick she's sick though oh look she even made a video get your zine here what does

1065
01:12:59,468 --> 01:13:07,408
that say oh yeah oh yeah that's cool oh yeah the the fat stack you get the fat stack of zines

1066
01:13:07,408 --> 01:13:13,088
oh is that what that is yeah oh wow that's a lot of zines dude it's all the zines

1067
01:13:13,088 --> 01:13:18,588
and little what is on the outside uh it's like a cork thing she like made the cover herself

1068
01:13:18,588 --> 01:13:27,428
oh wow yeah that's crazy yeah it's pretty swell huh no we're talking about these zines here yeah

1069
01:13:27,428 --> 01:13:36,068
did you grab a zine up there yeah we got some zines but is it stacy who makes those oh pleb

1070
01:13:36,068 --> 01:13:48,108
poet yeah oh satsy's yeah yeah no that's for pleb poet yeah there's uh austin uh pleb devs wife

1071
01:13:48,108 --> 01:13:55,708
there we go boom check it out the ultimate christmas collection get it now while supplies

1072
01:13:55,708 --> 01:14:02,168
last um yeah well we could print more we're basically the jerome powell of stacker news

1073
01:14:02,168 --> 01:14:09,288
themes uh i think that's everything but i don't think we've ever had a female fed chair

1074
01:14:09,288 --> 01:14:15,768
maybe we have yeah what's her name was the female feature no she was a treasury oh she was a treasury

1075
01:14:15,768 --> 01:14:21,728
that's right yeah um cool that's uh that's all we got this week keon what are you doing this weekend

1076
01:14:21,728 --> 01:14:30,108
uh gosh that's a great question you know i always i always imagine that i might have something fun

1077
01:14:30,108 --> 01:14:36,908
i'm doing but then when you ask me it reminds me that i'm not going to do anything so i don't have

1078
01:14:36,908 --> 01:14:43,248
anything i'm going to do oh that sucks it doesn't really necessarily suck i and i enjoy not doing

1079
01:14:43,248 --> 01:14:51,168
things so that's probably what i'll do i'm putting together my top 10 movie list this this this

1080
01:14:51,168 --> 01:14:54,928
weekend probably i got to watch one more movie actually two more movies this weekend to put it

1081
01:14:54,928 --> 01:15:02,448
together um and then i got some work to get done and then i gotta win the super bowl on my fantasy

1082
01:15:02,448 --> 01:15:08,228
and then um yeah i think that's it but yeah it's gonna be a fun weekend

1083
01:15:08,228 --> 01:15:13,768
yeah looking forward to it sounds like you have stuff to do tons of stuff to do i wish

1084
01:15:13,768 --> 01:15:18,808
what are you guys doing this weekend need creations um honestly we're pretty open i

1085
01:15:18,808 --> 01:15:21,348
You know, it's like a poker tournament I've heard about.

1086
01:15:21,468 --> 01:15:23,168
Oh, I didn't hear about that.

1087
01:15:23,688 --> 01:15:24,388
Oh, wow.

1088
01:15:25,128 --> 01:15:27,808
Yeah, we're not cool, so we don't get invited to these things.

1089
01:15:28,948 --> 01:15:29,528
Oh, wow.

1090
01:15:29,928 --> 01:15:30,128
Oh.

1091
01:15:31,648 --> 01:15:32,048
Yeah.

1092
01:15:32,648 --> 01:15:33,668
I didn't know this.

1093
01:15:33,748 --> 01:15:34,008
Oh.

1094
01:15:34,448 --> 01:15:35,708
Yeah, we're not cool enough.

1095
01:15:36,128 --> 01:15:37,268
Is it a Bitcoin incubator?

1096
01:15:37,788 --> 01:15:37,988
Yeah.

1097
01:15:38,148 --> 01:15:38,888
Oh, yeah.

1098
01:15:38,888 --> 01:15:41,288
I think they're Med5 pregnant.

1099
01:15:41,768 --> 01:15:42,128
Oh.

1100
01:15:43,608 --> 01:15:44,748
I don't think everyone else.

1101
01:15:44,768 --> 01:15:45,388
I've never heard of this.

1102
01:15:45,388 --> 01:15:55,408
so it's yeah popular there you go okay oh cool

1103
01:15:55,408 --> 01:16:04,448
dang it's amazing wow it sounds like they have a lot of cool stuff they're doing yeah

1104
01:16:04,448 --> 01:16:11,388
sounds like there's stuff to do in austin um yeah we'll walk out of sand and it's in austin

1105
01:16:11,388 --> 01:16:13,348
wow that's amazing

1106
01:16:13,348 --> 01:16:17,268
oh touch grass

1107
01:16:17,268 --> 01:16:18,768
with other bitcoiners

1108
01:16:18,768 --> 01:16:21,068
um all right well stackers

1109
01:16:21,068 --> 01:16:23,348
we're gonna go hang out with

1110
01:16:23,348 --> 01:16:24,668
some people that stopped by

1111
01:16:24,668 --> 01:16:27,568
um kian's probably gonna go back to work

1112
01:16:27,568 --> 01:16:28,908
and um

1113
01:16:28,908 --> 01:16:31,428
and uh we'll see you

1114
01:16:31,428 --> 01:16:31,908
next time

1115
01:16:31,908 --> 01:16:33,348
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