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merry christmas merry christmas wow it's the holiday yeah thank god it's right after i think
this is called boxing day you said that earlier i still don't know what that i learned that like
a few years ago i have no idea where i heard i was like online probably and someone said it's
boxing day and i'm like what and i looked it up i think it has something to do with either
you're like boxing all up all of your stuff up like putting away the decorations is my
recollection of what it means i should have probably looked it up before i started talking
about it or it has something to do with like returns returning stuff that you got as presents
that you don't want or it has something to do with a lot of the stores i think are like
they're getting rid of their decorations and they're like selling things for cheap that that
didn't sell before the holiday so it could be one of those three things yeah i don't i actually
don't know which it is but it's not something we really do here in the united states i think it's
like bigger in the uk yeah keep selling over here we're american so we you know but we have boxes too
so I don't know why that would be much different.
What did you do this week?
What did I do this week?
I finally got some of my office set up.
Oh, I saw that.
You put the light on.
Oh, yeah.
I hung up the light.
I haven't turned it on yet, but that should be on.
At the last place, I was forbidden from...
Whoa!
Calling them out, buddy.
Yeah, that's right.
Now you're calling them out.
The Littlefield family...
sent me a verbal
this is not car saying this the little field family at the little field building sent me a
verbal cease and desist through various channels and told me i could not light up my my stack reduce
sign in the window because it's a historical building and um you know they're gonna clip
this and they're gonna send it to i think they just don't like bitcoin they're gonna send it to
the people that come at me mr littlefield well they're not gonna send it to them they're gonna
sent to people that we know so it's all good i don't think anyone's gonna send it to anyone
oh they do uh you do they sure do it always gets back to me yeah but now i get to keep my sign on
all the time and then cause glare in the eyes of people who enter and exit blah blah it was funny
though when you did do that like almost immediately like um almost immediately i won't say man i feel
Like, can I share this story?
Yeah, who cares?
Somebody who was in the building with us.
I won't say who.
Please don't say who, Keon.
Okay.
You're totally going to say who.
Don't say who.
Somebody in the building with us of notoriety was like, did they let Keon put up the sign?
And I was like-
Is it Michael Saylor that you're talking about?
Just let me finish the story.
All right.
And I was like, I mean, I don't know.
like i i think he just put it up like i don't think it's a big deal like it's just a sign
and then almost immediately like two weeks later or like a week later that's when that email came
through so oh dude you're you ratted me out no i think it was that person i think it was that person
that's what i like i was suspicious like did mr littlefield really say something about my time
I think it was that person.
Yeah, I think it was just they were like, you know what?
We don't want you to have a sign.
I mean, at the end of the day, like, yeah, it doesn't matter.
Like, it doesn't matter.
Anyway.
Well, I get to have my sign on now.
And so eat my shorts.
But no one sees it, though.
You have to come in to Brazos.
It's a secret sign, bro.
It's a secret sign.
But it's always on.
Hey, the people that go to the Italian restaurant will see it, though.
There's that.
That's right.
Yeah.
Yeah, they'll be all high on pesto.
See my sign.
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We have last week's most popular clip was Chinese billionaires are having dozens of babies.
Did you see what Wumble made with this clip?
Do you see that right there?
Yeah.
It's hilarious, dude.
Well, those are like not Asian kids.
Are they mixed?
No, that was the whole point of the video was that it wasn't like they were Chinese billionaires that were using American surrogates.
or women's wait yes surrogates to yeah impregnate yeah but there's
bumble made this this amazing cover art for it the kids are supposed to be genetically chinese still
well i mean there's kind of a uh well how do you say that there's kind of a slant there right a
little bit slant i mean right can you tell i think i feel like bumble chose the right
i think some babies i mean maybe some of them look maybe possibly max but the white like white
with blue eyes on the right is definitely not i mean he probably used ai to generate like babies
right for the for the cover art no those are probably real babies dude anyways it had the
most views check it out if you're interested in chinese surrogacy um and then also check out the
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top three stories of the week the number three top story is squatting amsterdam episode three the
mafia strikes back this is from bitcoin graffiti nine comments 11 000 sats keyon is this the same
post from last week no this is the third episode i think last week we covered the second episode
of the post but this is this the third episode covers after they had moved in already i think
I think it was the day after, maybe the week after they had moved in,
one of their neighbors knocked on their door and handed them a DVD of his life story.
I guess he was covered by a local news station,
and he survived Nazi prison camps.
And I think was the only one in his family who ended up living,
but he went on to be a bodybuilder in late age.
And I guess he was at the time where they met him as a neighbor.
He was around 80.
So he shared that story here.
He also shared how they ended up getting kicked out eventually.
I guess the flat that they had moved into or were squatting in was owned by criminals.
And the research that they knew before they squatted in it, they knew that it was owned by criminals
and was, I guess, historically used to launder money.
But they still proceeded anyway.
And I guess one morning they woke up.
They were woken up by someone, I guess, knocking on their door
or trying to come in.
And it was a work crew, a large work crew,
a bunch of people in coveralls.
And they were trying to get them out.
They were threatening to break down the door.
and force them out.
And I guess what a lot of,
I guess the squatter network is like a thing.
And they, I guess, post it on the wall inside the house.
You have a bunch of phone numbers you call
depending on the situation that arises.
And in the case where you are,
someone is attempting to forcibly remove you
from your squat, you call, there's a number you call.
And so they called that number.
And I think within short order,
12 other squatters in the area,
They biked over to the flat and basically presented an opposite force to the people who were threatening to force them out.
And then they basically shooed the people, like the brutes who came to get them out, and they continued to live there.
Wow.
And then he said, like, one of the mistakes that they made was there was an apartment below them that was also unoccupied that they were told by the squatting organization in Amsterdam that they should also occupy that flat below.
But I guess that flat had not been empty for long enough, and they couldn't make a legal claim on it.
And so they were afraid to occupy it.
And so they didn't. And I guess that's eventually how they ended up losing that flat was that they started they started renovating the flat below them. And then they ended up piercing through the floor into their flat. And I guess they also were able to get a the people who were trying to get them out were all were able to get a permit for remodeling that flat that also included the flat that they were occupying.
And I think they have lawyers tell them that they would no longer be able to legally squat there soon once the permit, I guess, allowed them to begin renovating.
And so they, I guess they went on to squat another place that we haven't, I guess that's episode four.
But this is, yeah, this is, episode three is like the beginning of the first part of the squatting journey.
Wow. Crazy.
yeah yeah this uh how many episodes are there going to be did he say or
well he doesn't know i think he's writing them as a oh as he goes along
yeah well but we haven't had one in about a week
oh well so we'll get the next one next week hopefully
so stay tuned it looks like uh tom comment was from signal 312 said thanks
for the episode fascinating at some point it would be
interesting to learn how your politics evolved
if they did i guess i'm assuming that um
he says i was definitely socialist leaning when i was younger over the years i shifted more
libertarian due to my experience as entrepreneur in life in general uh many folks in the squawney
movement are idealists i didn't adhere to much of their philosophies um he said i was a very soft
squatter what does that mean and clearly a tourist i think not like ideologically squatting
like sort of interesting yeah more of a hobby maybe as a hobby squatter yeah or
yeah didn't believe in squatting as like a solution to the world's problems was
just found out cool maybe yeah i wonder do you think darth going to squatting out there in the
woods do you think that's a form of squatting i would guess he probably purchased a parcel of land
i would guess that's what he did yeah it would be because that would be because he would be soft
squatting he'd be heart squatting right because he's technically building the whole citadel yeah
i would guess that someone owns that land and i don't think i would guess it's not public land
do people do do people do that with like woods like you know i think you can yeah because like
homeless people do that here in alston in the woods basically they do that in the wood i've
never been out in the woods here to see that but i know homeless people take up camp in a variety
Like behind the, there's a, gosh, what's the name of that?
Not the Walmart, but there's like a Sam's Club down south Austin.
And behind that, there's like some woods.
There's like a homeless camp, I guess.
Oh.
Yeah.
It's kind of like the village, you know?
Like the movie The Village where they just like, people don't know what year it is.
It's just like, it could be the 1800s back there.
You just don't know.
you really you think you think some of these homeless people are like renaissance people
they like i mean i mean in the movie they didn't even they were like there's like this bob barbed
wire they didn't even know how far like the kids didn't know they were just raised there you know
yeah i think they were told there were like scary things on the outside and they needed to stay
outside their their parents were a bunch of socialists or whatever or soft squad or no those
are those were hard squatters i guess i don't think those were squatters though i think they
Totally. That's what I'm saying. Are they caught squatters if they're in the woods?
I don't think just being in the woods makes you a squatter. I think squatting is
you are occupying property that's owned by someone else.
The woods don't count? If it's property owned by someone
else, it does. In that movie, I think it was owned by the state, I think.
I don't think that's squatting if it's public land that you're on. I think it's
something else. I don't know. Somebody should look into that.
uh cool the number two top story this week is introducing pigeon and privacy first
nostor scheduler um this is from movilab in december 20th 26 comments 20k boost 2269 sets
key on what's this yeah pigeon looks like a buffer like tool if people are familiar with
buffer you can use it to schedule posts i think on x and other platforms maybe that maybe that's
old i don't know if they do that anymore but this is like that for a nostor you get to schedule
post in advance. What's cool is you can also schedule DMs. But yeah, it looks like that is
mostly what it's doing. And it's doing it via DVM, which are, what are these?
Data vending machines?
Data vending machines is, I think, what the name of that spec that allows you to do that,
where you can host a service and people can discover it and pay you for using it.
and that's
most of what there is there so you can run your own
DVM
for Pidgin that does this for you
or I guess you can use other
Pidgins that other people have
and schedule your posts
it looks
pretty nifty
Is it just on Noster or is it just for
other platforms?
This is specifically for Noster
Okay so it's just for Noster
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Yep.
Cool.
Yeah.
Check it out here.
Pigeon.loal.
Then you just log in with Noster,
and then you need a browser extension or a bunker
or just YOLO your private key.
That seems to be the thing.
Or use Froster.
Oh, can you use Froster on this?
I think I have a remote signer.
You can use Froster.
Looks like I'm getting a nod.
something froster specific yeah i mean the libraries out there they could do it but they
would have to build it in okay all right so right here ladies and gentlemen pigeon if you're if
you're listening which you likely are because it's got to you log in my froster you know you
need a login right there that says probably before bunker ideally you should put one that says what's
the froster logo should you do log in with froster you know what actually if they support
nit 46 yeah you could log in with froster yeah okay okay they support nit 46.
okay yeah well you could should with login with bunker there you should be able to
yeah so i guess it works with froster according to what mr froster says over there either way
log in with froster um sounds pretty cool yeah the next top story oh the final top story is
distributed charge ev now available for public testing this is from andy december 19th 100k
boost baby 11 500 sats key on who's andy yeah so andy is a man who has been working on uh providing
car charging um that you can pay for with lightning and i recall andy posting on stacker
news about this like back in early stacker news days um and it's really cool to watch the evolution
but this is this is like the latest stage of it where he has it you can actually go and charge a
car by paying with lightning now. Um, at, I think it's a location in Ohio. I forget exactly where
he's located or where this is located, but, um, yeah, uh, really cool. There was like a intermediate
stage where you had to have something installed in the car, but like part of this latest release
is that you don't need something installed in the car. And that uses a kind of a, kind of a bond
system to work now where you pay you pay up front and it's held in sort of a bond and then you can
come back and pay the exact amount later sort of like when you go into a gas station you give them
a 20 and then you got to go back and get your change it's kind of like that situation now um
auto so auto pay is the version that requires you have something installed in your car and manual pay
is the version I just described.
And it's located where?
Okay.
Oh, Kentucky.
Okay.
Covington, Kentucky.
And yeah, you can go and use it.
But really, I think really cool.
And I think the whole, why it's called distributed charge
is I think what Andy envisions is that,
you know, like relatively ordinary people,
not Elon Musk and his superchargers,
but relatively ordinary people,
they they can use that they can use distributed charges like systems and software and stuff to
sell their electricity to other people who want to charge their cars um you know have a have a
distributed supercharging network i think is the it's what i would imagine the vision is for this
um yeah it should be really cool i actually talked to andy this week i was telling you about him um and yeah I just wanted to kind of know how the whole payment flow worked And yeah it exactly like you said
I guess he had tried for, like he had gone through a lot of different iterations.
And then he was telling me that he eventually just came to this iteration where you have to pay once.
And then you pay again once the charge is completely finished.
So that was the final outcome that he came to.
The other thing that he told me was interesting was that he's looking for, like, to make this part right here.
Isn't too expensive, but it does take time to do it.
And then, you know, you have to put it together and all that kind of stuff.
But there is one before.
I want to show it here because he does have one before where it showed initially what it looked like.
Yeah, so he got it from all this.
this is what it looked like before
I don't know if you can see that back there
but that's what it looked like before
before he got it down to that little module
which I think is amazing
for him to like make that
that jump
from what like
because I met him in like 22
I think we met him in 22
and for him to make that jump from there to here
is pretty phenomenal man
so I think it's just amazing
it's just his tenacity
to keep doing it and um i know he's always at tab conf every year with that with the bicycle and
all that kind of stuff so yeah there it goes right there and for what he was telling me it
like it works with level two chargers the the new one the new one that he has is a level two
charger apparently i didn't even know there was difference between a level one charger and level
two charger um and then like some of the other ones there's like a level three charger that's
like higher the level the faster charge yeah that's like the fastest charger but the level
two chargers are like the ones that you could theoretically do like in a day a full charge in
like seven hours or eight hours whatever and then level one charger is like the ones you have at
home um okay but um it's fascinating i think he's he's definitely on to something i it's really
early but it's really exciting at the same time right and like this is a guy who's like if you
like how would you say like if there's a guy and i don't know for me personally like i met a lot of
people in the bitcoin space like a lot of people a lot of developers too a lot of founders and i
would say he's like the only one that i've ever met that's trying to wield electricity with
lightning and to me that's like pretty freaking cool like he's like literally trying to he's like
tesla he's like literally trying to wield electricity well you met austin didn't you
from sonota yeah but but like this this is for me this is like a little bit different
because this is like you know when he's doing all this stuff he can get shocked
like do you know what i mean like he was telling me about the wiring that he does so like
let me go back um where is it at here i think it's here like the wiring that he was
doing so this is the the other wiring but it just goes to show that like um like all this all the
stuff that he had to learn keon just to get it because he's not from what he was telling me he
this wasn't like you know he he works at lightning labs so like this wasn't like his thing like his
i thought he was an electrical engineer by training oh it wasn't i didn't know that but um
so for me i was just it to me it's just fascinating to see somebody actually trying to
you know harness electricity like that and then you know you know use it with lightning it's just
really cool it's just cool man i don't know it is really cool i think anywhere where bitcoin becomes
something physical yeah it's way cooler than yeah it ordinarily is because it's like otherwise so
digital and abstract you this is stuff it's like when the guys made the lightning door
like it's kind of like that it just it's just like seeing in the physical world bitcoin
is just i feel like that's the that's the final destination for bitcoin yeah it impresses people
in a way that software does not software on the screen does not anyways great post
looking looking forward to him um going on tour this year to show off a lot of this stuff
um cool that's all the top stories this week on snacker news live we're gonna jump into um
let's keep it going lightning uh let's jump into wumble's picks wumble's picks this is a segment by
wumble and it's called wumble's picks wumble had this pick uh lightning nodes lightning network
nodes count and capacity by country this was released by mempool um did you see this yeah
this is from their uh mempool's dashboard mempool.space's dashboard of their lightning dashboard
I think they added this lightning stuff about a year ago or so.
But you can look at, we have a pie chart here
where you can see where all the IPs of all these nodes are.
The majority of them, or not the majority,
but many of them, a large share, 29% are in the United States.
And then followed up by China, Germany, Canada, France.
There's a lot in China.
yeah actually that is
that is pretty interesting I wonder
that could just be
where data centers are
located and might not be
run by people who
are of Chinese
descent or whatever
Germany makes sense so does the Netherlands
France
even Canada
I'm surprised Italy is not higher
yeah and it's important to note we also
don't have data on where
tor nodes are located obviously because they don't have an ip address so we can't do any
like indirect geolocation um of those nodes so it even shows the capacity there
i don't know if you see that yeah yeah and so these are um nodes that are i well i don't know
i guess this could also cover private this probably doesn't cover private nodes
private channel capacity.
Where's El Salvador at?
Capacity is not known.
They have four notes?
No, that can't be right. Most of them must be tour notes.
It's also
if you were doing
a data analysis on this, you would go to anyone who is attempting to collect
this data and then compare them all because they likely all have some kind of
anomalies or anomaly um that another one might not interesting so i wouldn't trust
any one particular dashboard at least to be super precise um he did have uh some questions on this
so let me bring up the questions for you his first question that wumble had is will there
be more or less capacity a year from now hmm yeah uh i would guess more um if you look if we go back
to mempool.space and we click on the lightning tab at the lightning button with the arrow on it there
we go to capacity lightning network capacity yeah we can see the we recently hit an all-time high
um and so that's garnered a bunch of interest but it happened like shortly after square made
their announcement where they are allowing merchants to turn on uh receiving bitcoin
receiving for and you know at their terminals and um so that's so capacity jumped up and so
you know you could maybe say that that trend is expected to continue
you. But you could also say maybe it'll be like we've seen in surges and lightning capacity in
the past where eventually they correct where you have kind of people who deploy capital inefficiently
come online and then they eventually realize they have a bunch of Bitcoin and hot wallets that's
occupying channels that aren't being used and they begin to use it more efficiently.
So that would be a reason to expect it to go down. But if lightning transactions are going
to increase and continue to increase is what I think that's what the market is suggesting here
is that they expect Square turning on these lightning terminals is going to lead to more
lightning usage. And these are people coming online who want to take advantage of that.
And so we had a nice, so we had a nice increase there. But I would expect it goes up. That would
be my guess it's just a guess um another reason it might go down is if like or it might go up is
that bitcoin price decreases a lot and then you know because unit of account at square merchants
is denominated in dollars um you would need more bitcoin to service all of those merchants
rather than less if the exchange rate decreases um
yeah i think that's my that's my guess about it's interesting that the um where it goes it almost
follows a lot of things that we're seeing here in the space as far as like the lightning nodes
as far as i mean it would be cool to see like correlation with just in every aspect of um
yeah i'm just thinking right now of a lot of things so all at once
yeah but it's interesting to note that in this graph we're looking at the channels the number
of channels on the network the public channels at least decreased quite a bit over the last few
years but capacity plateaued so it's almost like node runners were consolidating from you know a
little bit of bitcoin in many channels to a lot of bitcoin and a few channels do you think there's
more private channels or do you think it's just more consolidation i think it's probably a lot of
it is consolidation that we're seeing in the chart i think and then um also i think there's i think
there's probably more private channels than there are public channels yeah i would think so too and
that might have increased quite a bit but um the other question that he had was uh what was the
other question one uh will there be more or less visible nodes a year from net or nodes a year form
now or from now it looks like he's saying more or less visible notes um let me go back to here
you would hope there'd be more but um i would guess i would guess not i would guess yeah i
would guess there will be more i don't know i don't think it'll go up by a lot
i was looking at the um river lightning report from i think a year or two ago and
lightning usage is something like there's one one node runner for every eight custodial wallet
users or something like that um wait say like there's one node runner yeah there's like one
one person who's using non-custodial lightning for every eight people who is using a custodial
wallet. And so even if like lightning usage 10X, that suggests like a lightning usage 10Xs,
then we have a, it's a relatively modest bump in non-custodial or the absolute number of nodes
that are being run or non-custodial lightning users.
yeah
so
I would expect though it does go up
I think we've gone
the sentiment on lightning
feels like it is
extremely bearish and has been for the last
few years
and I think that's more
a symptom
of a lot of things
it's mostly fashion I think
it became out of lightning became unfashionable um and no one really talked about it for a long
time and now i think hey how's it going yeah come come in yeah hey what's up we're my name's phil
this is jerry we're bitcoin i feel what's going on here there were people here yeah yeah yeah
yeah we're live right now yeah yeah yeah feel free i mean if you want to hang out feel free to come in
uh grab a seat anywhere you see that's austin back there we're just recording yeah yeah
No, you're fine.
Yeah, feel free to grab a seat anywhere.
There's some drinks in the fridge and some beers.
Yeah.
Yeah, so what were you saying about the lightning notes you were saying?
Oh, I was just saying that I don't.
Oh, no, we were talking about sentiment around lightning has been kind of bearish.
I think that's kind of flipping around.
So, you know, maybe that changes how many people, how many plebs run notes.
At some point, there was a huge push to have more people running Bitcoin nodes and Lightning nodes.
It seems like that has died out, and everyone's just talking about treasury companies.
I think what's going to happen, just for me talking to people, I think at some point there's going to be some new sort of device that will be connected to a BitX.
And then I think that will get more plebs to run nodes again.
and I don't know anything
but I would imagine we're going to see
like a BitX type of
related node
of a sort that does both
and I think that will get people to
come in personally
because I would buy that in a second
and I think that's what you need
you need to get the plebs to
Why would you buy a node if it's attached
to a BitX and not to a node?
But I think you can get the price point right
because there's really no incentive to run
a node
why would there be an incentive to run a node if you have it you know you have the lottery
mining that's going on with that with the bid axe but you don't need to run a node to do uh to do
well i mean like right now we're running that lottery miner over there that's just like running
the bid axe right it's just like running so to me that seems like the obvious entry point if you're
trying to just get like the just trying to get more nodes online it's just like figure out a way
to do do it with the um with the bidx i mean i get leveraging bidx's like marketing and you know
stuff to sell notes but i don't think it it doesn't seem to make much much sense to that you
need one with you need one or the other you know i don't know i feel like i feel like that's the
that's the entry point but could i could be wrong we'll see all right it could be you know it could
be like chicken and waffles and i'm like why would you have both together and car's like i'm
gonna start a chicken waffle oh it's not me i'm just you just would have run what i've heard you
know i think it's gonna come to fruition at some point um anyway uh let's jump into the
let's keep it going let's keep it going let's go into more let's jump into some more stuff real
quick so zeus just launched um it's version 0.12 i don't know if you saw this from evan he just
launched this on the 22nd um big a big update um he has nostor wallet connect um and then i think
this is the really coolest thing right here did you see this with sweep support you can now sweep
funds from an open dime making zeus a great companion wallet to recommend for when you dish
out those wedding and birthday presents did you see this part i did not see that i think that's
really cool it is cool um and then there's some other stuff battery saver warning bug fixes um
and yeah he's just uh he's just on a row man he's just on a row keep shipping and then uh the next
one i wanted to bring up was where is it at where is it at where is it at um yeah let's let's talk
about this one so this was um this was from danny of breeze he he shared uh roy's stable coins
evolution not a revolution i don't know if you read through this at all i haven't had a chance
yet so i read through it um it's um he basically just kind of talks through why stable coins
have become a thing in the bitcoin ecosystem and talks about why they are just infrastructure it's
a lot of stuff we already know we talk about in the lab um and how you know um it's gonna be uh
i think he said it's like a 1.9 two trillion dollar market by 2030 i think that's from citibank
or citigroup um he then talks about how you know there's just so many places around the world
that that need a stable current that need a stable coin to to move to uh to hold its value
i think this is all the stuff that we know um you're seeing it in africa really take off and
in latin america really take off um he then talks about how that over the long term stable coins
won't they won't win because there's just so much friction attached to them um whether that's just
you know whether that's coming from governments or from jurisdictions or regulation or whatever
that's going to be in america it's it's different than the eu and vice versa um and then he and then
he talks about like what what that means for the future of bitcoin and and how he sees it playing
out it's kind of what we were talking about earlier when i was explaining it with like the
whole ai thing and and i'm starting to kind of go on this trend now because i'm even becoming even
become more open to stable coins because before i think i i was definitely on the other side of the
just not not with it wanted them to die and now i'm actually after reading through this and being
a little bit more more pragmatic about it and being more realist about it and realizing that like
this is where things are going they're going to charge like a two or three percent fee on this
kind of stuff and bitcoin's just going to be able to be you know in-game credits for the internet
and continue to be that um and it's only going to be a a pain in the ass whenever you have to go from
like bitcoin to a stable coin because there's probably going to be some sort of
feeds associated with that and some sort of doxing or uh aml or kyc um then it becomes
yeah like he says here it's it's easier to win the race without hurdles um so he thinks overall
potentially where we can get to a point where people will just opt out of having the the aml the kyc the friction the two percent three percent 3 whatever that is And they would just go straight to wanting to receive Bitcoin
because, as you know, the tooling will get better,
the use cases will get better,
it will just get out there far more easier to implement,
APIs, all that sort of thing.
So that was a great article.
Just wanted to share it.
Do you got any thoughts on Roy and his...
I know you didn't read it, but do you have any thoughts about stable coins in general?
Yeah, I think, well, I think from what I gather from what you said about this and some of what I skimmed through while you were talking about it is stable coins are like a fiat solution to a fiat problem.
Which is where they are sort of, they are less regulated versions while still being regulated, less regulated versions of what banks provide.
And so they allow people to get access to something like a U.S. dollar in a U.S. bank account without having to have a U.S. bank account.
And that has utility because a lot of people want to interact with U.S. services that require U.S. dollars.
So I get that.
And yeah, that sounds like the point he's making.
and that eventually the utility of that will be exhausted.
There are only so many people that want a less regulated bank account, more or less.
Yeah, and I think it's like a baby step to something like Bitcoin.
It's going to familiarize people with the responsibility required to hold your own money, perhaps,
and then maybe Bitcoin can come in and play a role.
I think also it gives us time to kind of build everything out.
And then it also, you know, I think over time people will just realize
just the value of paying for things will just go higher and higher and higher
for something like a stable coin.
And then the value for sats will continue to go lower and lower and lower.
people will realize that they'll just much prefer to opt in to get a bitcoin payment instead and i
think that and then you'll also just see people you know like like we saw with cash app just
opt into to allow you'll see more companies just accept bitcoin as payment and more more people
accept bitcoin as payment i think that'll just happen over the long term especially by the time
we get to 2030 or 2035 or whatever yeah i'm not so i wanted i also want to say that i'm not
necessarily optimistic about this. I don't think it necessarily leads to more Bitcoin adoption. I
think there's some possibility that what ends up happening instead is this gets more normalized
and people still don't realize the value of Bitcoin for whatever reason or don't want to use it or
maybe there are more rational reasons why Bitcoin stays a store of value and not a medium of
exchange or whatever but i think i don't think we should be assisting stable coins doing this
kind of thing i think i just because i suspect uh yeah i there there's there's a possibility
that stable coins eclipse bitcoin entirely to the point where bitcoin never becomes
an option um for people or it becomes somehow invisible to them effectively not an option for
them and so there is some risk there maybe yeah maybe cbdc somehow leapfrog yeah 100 i'm right
there with you i and i don't think i don't think roy is not uh and i don't want to speak for roy but
i don't think you know breeze and roy are like assisting them but i i do think obviously like
tether since like 2013 has been trying to build this market um and on a lot of other different
blockchains besides Bitcoin. Bitcoin was the last one to bend the knee to that. But I do think that
it's here regardless and it's infrastructure that Circle has already built out over the course of
seven years or whatever, or whenever they started with their stablecoin. I only see two things,
how this kind of plays out. I see the totalitarian state where the CBDC comes and it's probably
going to be from like ai stuff honestly like it's just going to be a total ai stable coin um
like you can totally see all these different like um um just imagine like just imagine like a german
what's his name drone powell but as a bot like an ai agent like just like just like doing running
the economy of the world just like with stable coins uh so i could totally see that i but i still
think like as far as like bitcoin i think it's just going to be able to dominate in its own
frictionless decentralized nature and i think that's what he's hitting and hitting with this
piece it's just like it's just kind of you're playing in its own it's playing in its own
playground basically and it was born here like it's kind of like the bane thing right it's like
i was i was born in the dark so yeah i think you know i want to believe that too that bitcoin will
eventually went out it just confirms my own biases so i'm i'm skeptical of predicting the
future will turn out exactly how i wanted to which is where bitcoin wins i was i was totally
like you at the beginning of the year 100 like it this made me feel a lot better um
and i'm not 100 better but it's at least i'm a little bit more optimistic than i was
earlier this month.
Which, you know, is good.
It's not good to be Doomer in your own thing that you're working on, right?
So this is definitely good timing by Roy.
Anyways, I wanted to share that.
And then the other thing was this thing I think is hilarious.
So this got shared on Stacker News.
This is why I love Stacker News, Keon.
is because we can go from really highly intellectual stablecoin fintech infrastructure stuff
and even talk about squatting and stuff like that.
Then we go to really hilarious things like why cats always land on their feet.
Hey, it's me, Destin. Welcome back to Smart Every Day.
So you've probably observed that cats almost always land on their feet.
He literally went out of his way to figure out why cats land on their feet.
And so I'll mute this so people can do it.
But, like, why do you think cats always under the feet, Keon?
I don't know.
They have something in their brain that forces them to want to be upright.
Wrong.
Turns out it's a little bit of everything.
It's their tail.
It's their eyes, their ears.
Yeah, he goes into it.
He even gets, like, a high-res camera, slow-mo camera.
I mean, don't try this at home.
but this is this is the like a cat that he has and so he shows you how the cat will like literally
land on its feet every single time and he's lining him in a soft little box so he's not
hurting but look at the look at the gracefulness of the cat he helps out right away and this is
this is a cat that was trained this is uh this is like a stunt a stunt cat basically no cats were
harmed and the no cats are harmed so he even goes even further he's like hey let's we got to do this
we got to do this way better he then he tilts him like 180 degrees because he thinks that maybe
he's just not doing it right so he tilts him 180 degrees i love how the cat is just cool with me
no because he's a stunt cat like he's like that so look boom and then you would see like how did
he do that but look the cat uses his tail this time to then shift to find his like where is the
center of gravity like where's like see he look as soon as the cat finds center of gravity he never
stops his head stays forward there do you see how his head stays forward yeah but i don't as soon as
the cat finds center of gravity you just that's it okay that's what it is about how not why okay
then he goes into like he says this can't like he would have tried with this cat because this is
not a stunt cat it's not a trained it's not trained not trained i don't know why he's
But anyway, yeah, they even have astronauts doing this.
And then this young kid tries it with his own cat.
See, this is where it gets kind of dark.
But anyways, just wanted to share this because somebody shared this on Stacker News.
They have cats without tails.
I wonder.
Oh, yeah.
I think he even tested one without tails.
Because there's different ones.
but apparently they apparently like once the cat finds this it's like a baseline whatever
he looks see how the eyes see how his eyes find the ground and then look do you not think you
would do that if you were no you would just stare up at the sky i would die like i'm not a cat but
look look what the other cat's never had never changes the cat's so smart dude anyways i thought
you'd get kicked out of that you used to have a cat right i did it it disappeared maybe someone
tried to try this experiment and it like fell on its head maybe super tried this experiment yeah
anyways anyways thought that was funny maybe the cat learned about cowboy credits
but look he goes into it i just love stuff like this where it's just like
really hard science in the dumbest things it's like this is the kind of stuff i love
anyways thought this was hilarious uh just wanted to share that um then we're gonna jump into
let's jump into your pick right we haven't done yours oh yeah condo life in singapore
yeah uh i thought this was fun uh i guess crypto sensei was renovating his permanent dwelling
his house.
I guess while that was happening,
they gave a
metropolitan condo a try.
It was just kind of
fun hearing about his experience doing that.
I guess he... That looks nice.
I guess they enjoyed the amenities quite a bit because they had
gyms
and pools
and stuff that his family could use
that were easier
to access and then
had nice big windows, which you
don't get in a normal home.
like floor-to-floor ceiling windows.
I don't know, it was just fun hearing about his experience.
And he said it was, you know, he paid a hefty price to be able to try it out.
I think he said it was $5,000 a month, which, you know,
on a short-term lease in Singapore, I would guess is probably pretty typical,
but suggests maybe the apartment he was staying in is, on a year lease,
maybe like $3,000 to $4,000 U.S. dollars.
which is much different than Austin's prices.
Look at that pool, dude.
Pool's humongous.
It is quite a large pool.
It looks like it's serving a lot of apartments.
It looks like it even goes over the edge over there.
I wonder if it's one of those edge pools.
Infinity pool?
Oh, is that what that's called?
Infinity pool?
Yeah, where it looks like it goes off into infinity.
Look at that.
Yeah.
I just thought, I think
the only con he mentioned was that
it was a little too
tight. And with
two kids, it felt
like he couldn't really get away.
Surprise, it's 5k a month
in Singapore.
Singapore is very
expensive.
It's always been expensive.
Yeah. Interesting.
Cool stuff.
That looks fun, dude.
They had one of those in the Yucatan.
man there's like all these kids that were playing in that thing because it was just like
a blast they have those in corpus too i used to love those things they just scored out water
yeah i mean well people aren't really having kids anymore so maybe we'll get more places like that
for adults they'll have be like a beer on tap and just running through i don't know what else
pickleball cool stuff um let's jump into the ai stuff this week so i wanted to share this because
I think it's really fascinating.
So Confessions to a Data Lake.
This is from Moxie, more than Spike.
So this was a post from Moxie.
He used to be a Signal.
He said, I found a Signal.
Huh?
One of the founders.
One of the founders of Signal.
He says, I'm building Confer end-to-end encryption for AI chats.
With Confer, your conversations are encrypted so that nobody else can see them.
Confer can't read them.
train on them or hand them over because only you have access to them sounds like something that um
a person we know is building yeah sounds like maple ai um what's interesting about this is
down here um right here he says advertising is coming what is new is that email and social
media are interfaces where mostly mostly post completed thoughts ai assistants are a medium
that invite us to post our uncompleted thoughts when you work through a problem with an ai
assistant, you're not just revealing information, revealing how you think, your reasoning patterns,
your uncertainties, the things you're curious about, but don't know the gaps in your knowledge,
the shape of your mental model. When your advertising comes to AI assistants, they will
slowly become oriented around convincing us of something, to buy something, to join something,
to identify with something, but they will be armed with total knowledge of your context,
your concerns, your hesitations. It will be as if a third party pays your therapist to convince you
of something. I thought that was fascinating because this is something that I've been hearing
in my ear from Tony for like a year and a half at this point.
It's wild.
What do you think about that?
Yeah, I think it is concerning how much information they're going to be able to get from you.
And they can build a better model about you.
But then again, if you're doing things like, if they're able to listen to your conversations
that you're having with people or reading your chat messages or reading, like not just
of the AI, but other people, your DMs on platforms, your emails, things like that.
I'm not sure this is much more invasive, actually.
It seems like, but it is par for the course, which sucks.
It seems like we're already all kind of over the invasion of privacy that we already have.
And you'd hope this new generation of technology gets rid of that.
And it's just like more of it.
I think the other thing that might be, yeah, a little bit different is that you are,
interacting with these things in a way that you don't typically like normally we're interacting
with another human being and then they're like harvesting all the data from us interacting with
other human beings but and but like these systems are communicating with us like a human being would
and so maybe they have more access to changing our behavior than the other problem with me is like
most of the stuff is like infrastructure at this point or at least how i how i how i treat it and
And so it's kind of frustrating because I don't need ads in my email.
I don't need ads in my AI chat.
You know what I mean?
That's the last thing I need.
Do you pay for OpenAI's chat?
No, but what I'm trying to say is it's just frustrating because it's kind of like when Microsoft is dropping ads in their operating system.
It's like, who needs ads in their operating system?
It's like the last place you need ads.
But I get it.
It's just unfortunate.
Anyways.
The other one I wanted to bring up was this one
because it kind of goes hand in hand.
ChatGBT may start recommending sponsored products
in ChatGBT replies.
So this was released by the information.
OpenAI's ads push starts taking shape.
So basically executives have kept a tight lid
on how the company could show advertisements
and users of popular chat gbt chatbot um and it's it's kind of frustrating but it makes sense if you
look at it they ballooned up to 900 million weekly active users since 2022 um and they're expected to
grow to 2.6 billion weekly active users by 2030 um so they're just leaving so much fiat dollars on
the table at this point um yeah what do you think about that and right now they're if you read the
whole article they're talking about how they're figuring out ways to like when to show an ad and
when not to show an ad if you're looking up like what's the best place to eat in austin then it
would show an ad versus maybe not all that kind of stuff yeah i mean uh this is kind of inevitable
if their business is not, like, customers aren't willing to pay for things.
They're going to get an advertiser to pay for the customer
and then show the customer ads.
That's kind of how these things work.
So I'm not super surprised.
You know, you would hope that given how much, you know,
if they do have extra insight and extra abilities
that they can provide better ads,
than you get in something like search results or microsoft's operating system um maybe more
targeted and maybe and you know the good parts of targeting maybe get serve as a benefit here
it almost makes you be a little bit worrisome because you start playing the sound um like you
start playing the tape out a little bit further like do they start censoring information um that
is like do you stop being referenced as like right now they're they're they're leveraging
stacker news and all its ability to um like all the alpha that you have on stacker news right
they're leveraging i don't know if you know this but like if you go and chat gbt they'll reference
stacker news for posts or whatever but at some point you could see them say hey kion we're not
going to use your information anymore because we already grabbed it and we're not going to put your
little icon on there anymore.
You got to pay us for that.
Yeah, I wouldn't pay them.
But it goes to
that being a possibility at some point
because at some point they're just going to
take all the information that they have from you.
They're going to then
make their own kind of like slop of it and then re it back and calling it their own um yeah well that i mean that kind of sucks and it kind of crappy but i you know that why i saying the story i feel like
it's going to go yeah i think that's a fair direction they'll go and i think another direction
they'll go in is maybe they're giving you the third best place to get a taco in austin because
the third best place to get a taco in austin paid them to say so that they're the best place
and so i think that's more so the direction it goes in as they they start biasing their answers
towards where they get money from kind of like how google search results kind of don't don't
represent you know the best things the best locations to find certain things on the internet
anymore because they have incentives that pull them another way and so if you keep playing that
tape out then then what's the solution to that is a solution a private ll or a private chat bot that
we personally host ourselves or is it one that is yeah what's the solution there is it one that we
self-host or yeah self-hosting could be a solution because you're there's no you're paying for
everything um another is using a a provider that doesn't do advertising so where you you would have
to pay them. Basically, what you're looking for is a way to use an LLM and get all the power of an
LLM within a system that doesn't have incentives to do this to you. Because even if OpenAI has the
best intentions, at some point, they're not going to be able to make any more money until they do
some of these gross things. At some point, they can't grow that 10% a year because they've already
saturated the market and that's kind of what you saw with google they were not evil until they ran
out of ways to make money there's a ceiling and then yeah and then eventually they if they really
realized if well if we're a little evil we can make we can make the you know report our earnings
this year and get get the stock price going to increase and then they get more evil and more
and it's just kind of like the incentives lead you yeah in a bad place so yeah there's a you know
private the private lms are another way maybe um my although i expect i suspect a lot of those
will still have ads in them but maybe it'll be less targeted and less invasive um
yeah it almost seems like only private lms and then some sort of open source thing yeah the hope
would be a lot of self-hosted stuff like most of your needs can be met with a self-hosted but we
want to like you want to you want to talk to einstein you go to one of these cloud yeah models
yeah all right well that's all the posts i think we got this week i believe
um and we're gonna jump into meta you had the no trust new november yeah so we're running an
experiment right now where we don't use trust and ranking anymore and everything is based purely on
the sats that are sacrificed and to the either by zapping or boosting or down zapping um yeah
And that kind of that's running right now.
I was we call this no trust November because I was teasing it in October because I thought I would get it done in November.
But that didn't happen.
And it happened instead now.
So no trust November in December.
And, yeah, I'd say it's going well-ish.
We're still, you know, it's coincided with the holiday.
So it's a bit hard to tell exactly what the impact of it is.
but it's interesting.
It is a lot simpler and more obvious and we'll see how,
see how it plays out.
The other one that you had was browser translations.
Yeah.
Well,
we launched the new editor.
I think we talked about that a few weeks ago and it had this deficiency in it
where it wouldn't allow people who are non English speakers to translate the
page or for the content of posts. And so that was fixed in this.
Additionally, there were some other bugs related to certain Android keyboards.
I guess there's a lot of like non-Android
people making Android keyboards and
they are buggy. And I guess you have to defend yourself against them.
And so, yeah, we've been releasing some fixes related to that
that hopefully solve those issues, but it can
be kind of tricky. But that's
the other meta that
encapsulates both of these metas. We had the
translation issue
and we have these Android,
certain Android keyboard issue.
Specifically like
the open source
Android's
open source keyboard doesn't have fixes
for this in it. And so
graphing other
people that have derivative keyboards on that
they also
had issues but yeah optimism said this is the ultimate upside of developing in public yes it's
hard mode compared to the safety of a private repo but look at the undiluted awesome you get for it
thanks for not adopting the goog ms signal model of throwing the blueprint to a walt garden over
the fence aka virtue signal fos what does he mean by walt gardening over the fence um what did he
say? Walt Garden over the fence.
He was praising y'all's being
open about the repo and stuff.
Yeah, I think
there are levels to open source.
You can have a
project that's sort of open source and name, or
you can't actually run it, and no one can really contribute
to it because you don't make an effort to try to get them to.
It takes a lot of effort to
make something easy to contribute to.
That's one level.
I guess that's what he would probably mean for Signal.
It's unapproachable as
someone who wants to contribute to it.
Um, and then you have, you know, Microsoft's and Google's that maybe don't, a lot of their
stuff isn't open source.
So they're just like levels to open sourceness.
Oh, interesting.
And so by, um, yeah.
And so Ricardo chipped in, like we published that issue and then I was getting DMs that
Ricardo was working really hard on solving this problem, which we had no idea what the
cause was until he figured it out.
And we actually couldn't find from other people experiencing similar issues.
They had no solution for it because we're using a fairly popular like core thing component here from Facebook.
And the Facebook engineers are like, we don't know what to do.
So they hadn't solved the problem.
But Ricardo was like, oh, this is just like a race condition.
And like if you have a very powerful phone and you're typing on one of these keyboards, it is not properly guarded against race conditions and it'll end up sending you a bunch of conflicting events.
And so you just have to like silence it.
So that's what he did.
And he found the solution pretty fast.
So it's just like some dumb thing that has never been accounted for, never been documented.
Well, it's well known.
these issues exist but
they just continue
because Google doesn't care
because they're not, most people who are
using Google's operating system aren't using these
keyboards and so
they don't care. Then you had this one
fix for Android keyboards, is the same thing related
to that four hours ago?
Yeah, that was today we
submitted some of those
or we deployed some of those
fixes to those Android keyboards finally.
Awesome. Cool.
And then people got paid
people got paid sats yeah for the work so that was an we have like levels to bounties on our
open source contributions and uh that one was urgent urgent and hard and so that that was a
three million sat bounty on damn hey pays to work on second news and then the other thing i wanted
sure was we released the snl dvd on christmas day um you can find it on fountain and uh it's there
look at us young unabashed bitcoiners in 2021 goob or no 2022 goob uh but yeah check it out
it's on fountain it's a bonus cool you have to be a subscriber right no it's free oh okay it's free
I mean, I dropped it two days earlier for our subscribers.
But every time we do that, we always drop it for free just later.
You know?
Awesome.
Yeah.
It's fun.
We watched it.
I didn't share that.
No, I didn't share that one.
No, you got to get the DVD for that one.
That one's two.
Yeah, we go a little.
We go hard, bro.
There was maybe a half an hour.
I was drunk.
Yeah, there was a half an hour of what?
You can't hold me to that.
I don't even remember what we were talking
it was like something about
oh we're going dark bro
you gotta buy the DVD for that
because cargo is really dark
Coop tries to stop me
I remember that week
it was a hard week
I was stressed out
we were moving
no F's given that week
let it rip on that one
but anyways
yeah but the regular thing
you can view it online
for free and enjoy it.
It was fun.
I definitely, like when we were watching,
I definitely enjoyed it because it was like
blast from the past and kind of seeing
what we were right about and what we were wrong about.
Anyways, always cool to see.
So that's that one.
And then the other one was, I think that's it.
I want to share the YouTube comments real quick.
This is from Vake.
He said, stay in Lomain.
that was from the health
location thing
and then this other guy says
because products produced by
monopolies they are thoughtless pieces of trash
see cool people
are still
commenting on the Gen Z thing
the retro thing
oh that's when that's from
oh Vake's late
he's not been keeping up with us
yeah I think he's a busy guy
he's probably been at the bar
maybe he's on the slow land
What's the lane he's staying in?
He's in the rice noodle lane.
Stay in the rice noodle lane.
Oh.
And then we got found comments.
One from Boog said, Zap.
Undisciplined said, Squatter's rights would make a great rabbit hole.
And then this other user said, stay in your lane.
So, yeah.
Pretty cool stuff.
Check out the Stacker Sports podcast because they're doing their yearly.
well I know Super Bowl's coming or the NFL playoffs
are coming up but they're also the
the fantasy sports
stuff is ending. Are you gonna
play along?
No I didn't make the play. I couldn't log
in. I'm opting
guys if you're listening to this
I'm opting that we do something a little bit easier
like NFL.com
because they use like a totally
like a really hard platform
What do they use? I don't know. It was some weird
platform I never heard of
to like i think gray ruby has been working on his own platform oh that's even better yeah let's do
something like that because it was it was rough oh it's like a fantasy sports it was a fancy sports
thing but it was like weird it was like it was and i couldn't find that password anymore and i was
just like okay i'm out real bitcoin dog he's been trying to do mine but i don't know if he's been
successful i don't know i haven't been following okay so you're interested in playing you just
yeah yeah because i'm playing on my regular i have my regular um my regular with my normie
friends fantasy football league and i actually made the i actually made the super bowl on this
one believe it or not yeah check this out how do you keep up with all the games how many games do
you watch a week see boys this is what this is what car could bring if it was a little bit simpler
to see look at that verify are you ranked wow it says that he is 7.6 is that good no that's that's
on the right that's my friend daniel that's your friend so what is how what would i say
i'm on the left side okay so i'm in the super bowl see if fantasy super bowl yeah it says
fantasy super bowl for 114.22 is the number is that good it's very good oh okay i'm just saying
yeah well let's fix it for next year boys let's do it um let's jump into
um top cowboys key on top cowboys the most popular segment in bitcoin people
stop everything and just i mean people came in from out of town just to come watch this
it's crazy watch this where are you guys where are you guys from
new mexico and where and boston wow you hear that stackers new mexico and boston just to watch the
most popular segment in bitcoin the cowboy segment the top cowboys top cowboys yeah can you believe
it this is crazy united states all over the united states yeah number one is hiding we don't know who
that is number two is kubb number three is undiscipline number four is blockchain boog
gray ruby we're also toshy i don't think anything's changed here no i think pretty stable at least in
the top 10 as it usually well top 15 maybe yeah i don't think i've seen any real movement solomon's
tosh is coming up 21 uh it was mercury clr do you guys use stacker news yes oh wow y'all also
you are stackers oh wow okay cool all right we'll have to we'll have to so they're stackers
stackers are you guys you don't have to dox yourself i know are you on this list
oh he just docks i didn't tell him i didn't tell him uh this is crazy
um where's new creations on here that oh let me see is he a cowboy on here well he runs a
christianity territory but i'm trying to find the um um i was just explaining the territory
oh where's the yeah i don't see him on here ah yeah see this is why you like i let people buy
their cowboy hat, Keon.
No, but then that makes it...
You don't have a cowboy hat.
Would you buy a cowboy hat?
Yeah, well...
Would you buy a cowboy hat if you could on Stacker News?
See, told you.
Yeah, but that mess is a store.
This segment wouldn't be...
It doesn't matter.
E2C sessions wouldn't be...
He's trying to shut us down.
Oh, yeah, maybe you can get a special hat.
Anyways.
I hate it when you can pay for things in a game.
When you can level up by paying.
Yeah, pay to win.
How many days do I have?
Yeah, that doesn't sound great.
Three days.
Boom.
I have three days.
That's good.
Wild car.
Coming up.
That's all I got here.
Let's go back there to this one.
And where is it at?
Go back here.
Do we have any comments down here?
Oh, we do.
BlacksheetBoot said Wimble's Picks.
says i'm late but i do have sn zine post whoa boom wow from from the hospital she from the
hospital oh she's sick she's sick though oh look she even made a video get your zine here what does
that say oh yeah oh yeah that's cool oh yeah the the fat stack you get the fat stack of zines
oh is that what that is yeah oh wow that's a lot of zines dude it's all the zines
and little what is on the outside uh it's like a cork thing she like made the cover herself
oh wow yeah that's crazy yeah it's pretty swell huh no we're talking about these zines here yeah
did you grab a zine up there yeah we got some zines but is it stacy who makes those oh pleb
poet yeah oh satsy's yeah yeah no that's for pleb poet yeah there's uh austin uh pleb devs wife
there we go boom check it out the ultimate christmas collection get it now while supplies
last um yeah well we could print more we're basically the jerome powell of stacker news
themes uh i think that's everything but i don't think we've ever had a female fed chair
maybe we have yeah what's her name was the female feature no she was a treasury oh she was a treasury
that's right yeah um cool that's uh that's all we got this week keon what are you doing this weekend
uh gosh that's a great question you know i always i always imagine that i might have something fun
i'm doing but then when you ask me it reminds me that i'm not going to do anything so i don't have
anything i'm going to do oh that sucks it doesn't really necessarily suck i and i enjoy not doing
things so that's probably what i'll do i'm putting together my top 10 movie list this this this
weekend probably i got to watch one more movie actually two more movies this weekend to put it
together um and then i got some work to get done and then i gotta win the super bowl on my fantasy
and then um yeah i think that's it but yeah it's gonna be a fun weekend
yeah looking forward to it sounds like you have stuff to do tons of stuff to do i wish
what are you guys doing this weekend need creations um honestly we're pretty open i
You know, it's like a poker tournament I've heard about.
Oh, I didn't hear about that.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, we're not cool, so we don't get invited to these things.
Oh, wow.
Oh.
Yeah.
I didn't know this.
Oh.
Yeah, we're not cool enough.
Is it a Bitcoin incubator?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
I think they're Med5 pregnant.
Oh.
I don't think everyone else.
I've never heard of this.
so it's yeah popular there you go okay oh cool
dang it's amazing wow it sounds like they have a lot of cool stuff they're doing yeah
sounds like there's stuff to do in austin um yeah we'll walk out of sand and it's in austin
wow that's amazing
oh touch grass
with other bitcoiners
um all right well stackers
we're gonna go hang out with
some people that stopped by
um kian's probably gonna go back to work
and um
and uh we'll see you
next time
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