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hello ladies

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and welcome

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back to another

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exciting episode of

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my name is car

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Kion, how was your week?

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Oh, yeah, it's good.

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It's funny how the whole that side is all yellow.

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What side is all yellow?

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Your side is all yellow.

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Look, it's on the screen.

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Oh, but it's not all yellow.

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Your hat's yellow.

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The hat right there is yellow.

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Is your vision blurred?

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It's just all yellow.

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Did you ever just walk to work and play Coplay's yellow?

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No.

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And it was all yellow.

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You know that song?

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You know that song?

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No.

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By Coldplay?

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I probably would, if I heard it, if it was a pop.

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It's just about yellow.

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Yeah.

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It's just about the color yellow.

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How was your week?

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Oh, it was good.

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You know, just having fun out here.

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Watching my heartbeat.

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Yeah?

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Yeah.

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Pretty cool stuff.

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Not listening to songs when I come into work.

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Stuff like that.

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I got a very spicy news list this week.

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Do we?

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Yeah.

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Well, yeah.

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A lot of stuff is happening.

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The world is, how would you say?

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Being the world.

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The world is collapsing in on itself, I feel like.

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Collapsing?

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Yeah, dude.

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But how does a flat earth collapse?

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We'd have to ask Ben Wormin for that.

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Oh, bro.

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You can't.

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You, like.

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You?

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He's the only flat earther.

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You're like, who else is a flat earther?

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It's just Ben.

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like ben hasn't been you like gave his full name it's like a legal name that's his name

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it's like damn the last name though that's like i like ben he's it's just i don't agree with him

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on the flatter thing and it's just kind of weird i've never talked to him about it but um i like

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people with things that i don't believe in things that i don't believe it's fun yeah makes the world

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more fun yeah if you've ever seen this crazy show we uh we cover the top three stories on

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stacker.news the what is it called again i think we're thinking about changing i think i'm going

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to change it to 24 hour party club or something that's what you call it that's what i don't know

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the name of it i don't know uh so the current tagline is 24 7 bitcoin meet up on a website

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but i'm thinking we're thinking about changing it to money as the moderator

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hmm yeah bro i think that one's good so that's probably what we'll go with but if you guys are

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overthinking paul graham no i don't think so i think i think that makes probably the most sense

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so far we're we'll get there we'll iterate to it but i think proving money is the ultimate

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moderator is probably like the average tagline to pull someone in that's our next iteration i think

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on the tagline yeah all right i mean you you won't like you know like just copy the reddit

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front page bitcoin i think that works pretty good but this doesn't mean anything like i don't i don't

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know i don't know any other site that covers all the bitcoin topics like that uh a news bitcoin

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news i know you're a fan of them so i guess why aren't they the front page bitcoin i guess they

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could be there you go so you need something that like no one else can say if you just say something

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that anyone else can say then what's the point of even saying it just call it the place the place

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where Wumble picks yes well that's unique I mean at least no one else could say that speaking of

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Wumble he posted a lot of videos this week the most popular one last week was the let them eat

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slop I don't know if you uh remember that when we talked about it oh yeah no okay let them eat

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slop that was the most popular one we're pretty good we're gonna jump into the top three stories

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right now the number three top story of the week is on the economics of peer-to-peer i tried

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vexel this is from den 13 comments 12 000 sats key on what's this yeah it looks like den was in

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prog and he thought he wanted to try out vexel which is a peer-to-peer bitcoin trading app

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it looks like you you know sort of like some of the digital versions that we've covered on this

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podcasts like RoboSats, you partner up, you find someone who wants to do the other side of the

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trade. In Den's case, he was selling Bitcoin for fiat because he wanted check dollars. And so he

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went on Vexel and found someone who would give him check dollars for Bitcoin. And then they

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agreed on the trade and arranged to meet the next day. And so Den covers that experience.

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and, you know, why it kind of sucked

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and then why it was kind of worth it.

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And it kind of sucked mostly because it was pretty inefficient.

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some local exchange where he KYC'd or whatever

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or, like, he went to an in-person kiosk where they KYC'd him.

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you had to wait for another party or find another party who wanted to do it and there was a small

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spread on that but the party collects a little bit more money uh then there's also like all the

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the fees of him transferring the money to the person anyway there are a number of inefficiencies

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with peer-to-peer markets which are another form like a in economics this whole category of things

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called transaction costs but um she's trying to sneak in the scene you can just move this one

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yeah with uh there it goes here we go look at that we got an all-black covey on the zine um

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yeah so he covers it and i guess the guy like didn't jog from his hotel 20 minutes to meet the

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guy and then the guy had i think was like commuting on his way from work or something and had to pull

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off the freeway to you know meet him and you're like meeting a stranger yeah uh so there's like

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Yeah, there's issues with it, but people are more trustworthy, I think, than not in general.

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So especially people who are dealing with Bitcoin stuff.

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Pretty cool stuff.

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Top comment was from Scoresby.

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He said, this is a great write-up.

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Having experimented with a few different ways to buy BTC peer-to-peer.

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My experience aligned with yours.

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Often it feels like an all-or-nothing game.

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I feel like meetups still work for that situation.

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Yeah, you could definitely do this.

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That's how we did it back in the old days.

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Cool.

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Jumping to the number two top story, which is also the number one top story.

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I guess should we go the other way since it's like backwards?

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Yeah, either way is fine.

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Okay, so basically Situation Venezuela by B57.

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107 comments, January 3rd.

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We'll cover the other one once Kian goes through this.

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kian what's going on out there in venezuela well i want to i want to start by saying i'm not a big

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like political news guy either am i and i just barely found out this was going on today even

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less so a geopolitical news guy but i i definitely knew this was going on because we were talking

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about it on stacker news and i saw a little bit elsewhere but um i think what happened was the

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trump administration unseated uh maduro so the dictator in venezuela who b57 has covered uh quite

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a bit some posts from the last yeah so i guess so they i guess they invaded venezuela specifically to

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uh arrest maduro and maduro is now wait i guess awaiting trial in the united states for

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I think narco trafficking crimes, I think is what he's accused of.

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What is this a picture of or the video?

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Yeah, so this is just sort of demonstrating a little bit of chaos inside of Venezuela.

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So people are uncertain about Venezuela's future now because their dictator has been removed and replaced with,

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I think, the vice president from his own administration.

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So likely another kind of, if Maduro is crooked, replaced with a crooked vice president.

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So people aren't really sure what to expect.

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This is them waiting in line to like stockpile on drugs and food, like prescription drugs and food.

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The line's pretty long.

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Maybe there's riots.

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Maybe everything gets destroyed.

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Maybe, who knows what comes next.

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It's relatively pretty calm though.

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Looks pretty calm.

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it's what they said yeah it's they said there were they'd expected riots but there were no

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rights but i guess over and then the next post they kind of go into it there's okay so let's

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move over to that one here um yeah yeah there's i guess there's this is you know basically

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declaration of i i think martial law this was on january 6th right they got this got posted

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Yeah, something where they've basically mobilized the army.

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And they are, I guess, trying to bring order.

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I don't know where there was.

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Whose army is that?

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I don't.

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I assume Venezuela's.

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Oh, okay.

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I don't actually know, though.

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And I guess there are checkpoints, checking to make sure that there's no one dissenting, political enemies of Maduro, people who have been celebrating the capture of Maduro are getting imprisoned and stuff.

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So there's like loyalists who are still in the country and trying to maintain the existing political order when it's set to change, basically.

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And so some of the pictures here and videos are from these checkpoints.

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They show men with guns.

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I think there are also, yeah, other armed civilians as well.

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just wild general wildness um unfortunateness and we got some other um photos of stuff that's

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going on there i think b57 said that most of what they're seeing online is like getting it

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getting it wrong um

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looks pretty calm and they're especially outraged by a lot of the westerners who

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are supporting maduro because they're like and they're like they have trump derangement syndrome

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and they're like trump said maduro's bad so he's good and his policies were good or they're like

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you know american socialists who support who somehow support the regime

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we can hear her

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can you give her the mic

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oh sure

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oh she's uh

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you go to the bottom of the post

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that's where they cover the

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weird political

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Likes the videos.

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Yes.

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This guy is watching TV.

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I'm sorry.

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All right, I'm ready.

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They're talking in Spanish.

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I was listening to what they're saying.

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Oh, OK.

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I wish I could translate, but...

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It looks like they're just checking out the damage that was done.

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They were kind of excited that this got, I don't know, this part got right here.

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Like, look what they did right here.

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Oh, this is their, they like the destruction that happened.

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No, I'm not saying that.

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I'm just saying that's what they're talking about.

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It's just like, look at it.

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Check this out.

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Oh, okay.

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Yeah, so I guess it does look like there was some rioting-ish things.

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Interesting.

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I think that might be from the explosion.

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I think there was a bombing early in the invasion.

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Or the rest in.

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I don't know what you would call it.

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She's talking to Maduro support.

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something about election or something an election last year oh they look so pretty

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they're telling her shut up interesting man

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what are you saying i can't hear it because i have my headphones on that's what i was telling

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her i give you the mic uh what did she say yeah so the the meme at the very bottom okay those two

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ladies yeah so i don't i don't know spanish but it's translated in the post says immigrants who

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escape socialist countries and then left-wing university students telling them to shut up

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basically yeah crazy stuff man um do you guys have any thoughts on this i don't really i mean

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this is my first time seeing it all week i didn't um know what was going on kianny got any thoughts

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on all this stuff i do oh well i did want to bring up this because i found this kind of interesting

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so polymarchia refuses to pay pay bets uh let me see if i can go through here

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they refused to pay bets that U.S. would invade Venezuela.

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So they're disputing that the mission to capture Madero

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constituted an evasion and said it will only settle a prediction contract

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that the U.S. military takes control of Venezuela's territory.

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The decision by the prediction market has angered gamblers

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and added to the controversy surrounding a successful wager

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on the timing of Madero's capture.

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That netted more than $400,000 in winnings for a mysterious traitor.

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The dispute over the definition of invade

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highlights just one of the contrarians faced

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by the most unregulated industry.

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crazy stuff crazy times place your bets this is where we're at in america okay so that bet is still

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open no it looks like it didn't get paid out yeah but it's still open because it oh okay yeah um

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yeah do you guys have any thoughts on this um i don't you know i don't know i don't i don't it's

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hard to have thoughts on it without having more information i try not to have opinions on things

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I don't understand.

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And, you know, from what I understand, Maduro is, does not, should not be in charge of a

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country and as, you know, a bad person.

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But I also don't, that's like all second, third, fourth, fifth hand accounts of things.

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But I would guess that's true.

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I believe B57's account of that.

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So I guess that's good.

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you know usually when you remove these people good things don't follow because there's like

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a political vacuum and sometimes worse things happen while while other things settle so that's

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scary but i don't know otherwise i i don't i don't really know most of my understanding or of

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my experience with these types of discussions involve iran because my my dad's family is from

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Iran. And so, you know, they're all Western and they hope that the regime in Iran leaves because

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they want Iran to go back to what it was, which was, you know, a fairly liberal Western country

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at one point pre the Islamic revolution. And, but getting there is hard, like, because you have to,

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you have to unseat what is more, you know, a military dictatorship.

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That's pretty brutal, likely cause a lot of people to die and get hurt.

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So it's like, what, what is there to do? It's just,

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these are tricky situations, but yeah, I'm not, you know,

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and I think,

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I think the worst part is another country coming in and removing the dictator.

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I think is like

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probably near as bad as the dictator just

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staying given that it's kind of abrupt and there's nothing to

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maintain

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the country from falling back into a similar or worse

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place. It's kind of like when you go on a

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crash diet and you lose a bunch of weight and then you like regain it immediately

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uh that's kind of like i think what happened in some of these situations but ideally what you'd

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have happen is like within the country there is a huge rebellion and like locals and stuff

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unseat maduro and then replace him with someone who who deserves to be a leader of the country

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anyway i'm just like rambling about things i hardly think about so maybe uh

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maybe you're better served listening to someone who knows what they're talking about yeah i would

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just say um shout out b57 he's living in communism so i think it's a lady oh she's living in

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communism communism so zap them um i don't know how they said it how are they doing or anything

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like that beef 57 um i think they said they cool they said it pretty chill they said a lot of the stores were closed and so there are these lines yeah but otherwise pretty tame like nothing crazy

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i think a week later about a week later everything was they said it was kind of normal except for

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these things um it kind of seemed like based on like just this post right here that the thing that

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was like more on b57's mind that was like more driving them kind of mad was just like the social

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media environment around it all and like how the conversation is like captured immediately and like

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nothing no good discussion really comes from it so that's why another reason to like really

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appreciate these posts from b57 who's like there and uh you don't you don't get that many other

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places on the internet so it's really it's really good to have these updates

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yeah thank you to b57 and um stay safe keep your family safe i'll keep you in my prayers

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and um yeah we'll see what happens next week um cool so that's all the that's all the top stories

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this week on snacker news live we're gonna jump into um let's go right into wumble's picks

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The most popular segment behind the Top Cowboy segment is Wumble's Picks.

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Everybody comes out for this because it's Wumble's Picks.

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Maybe we should add to like Luma.

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We should add just Wumble's Picks.

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That'd be funny.

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Yeah, it'd be.

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So Wumble had a post about Graphene OS confirms physical sensor kill switch on a new phone.

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This was from me.

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I posted earlier this week because it was really interesting.

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uh we had we had some comments from one of the people that is a part of that community

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um but kian did you see this post i saw one but picked it so i went and looked into it

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uh and yeah it looks like it looks like graphene os is working with an android

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manual like a device manufacturer and on a on a on a device specifically for graphene

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And one of the things they are considering adding, I think they might have decided this already, is to add sensor kill switch.

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So Wi-Fi, Bluetooth, microphone, things like that.

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Did I get that right?

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This is your story.

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Yeah.

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So basically what's going on is they kind of got into this conversation about how most pixels don't allow you or don't have a kill switch.

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They have a software kind of kill switch.

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and Graphing came out with their Twitter account

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saying that the device that does,

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I believe it's called the Librem,

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doesn't actually do it effectively.

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It was like badly started.

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It was badly thought out.

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And it's in the thing here.

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It was a pretty interesting take

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that they just kind of posted that

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because I had never heard that about those phones.

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And then to follow up,

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they said that they're possibly thinking

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about doing their own kill switch.

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but it's something i plan for the for future generation but um i don't know i definitely

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think those are i definitely think that would make me feel a lot better if there was a

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generic kill switch on there like a manual kill switch on there but

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outside of that i don't know and then here at the bottom so finals from that community he

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basically said or she basically said that um this was just potential ideas for future devices they

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haven't confirmed such a thing uh this site specifically releases sloppy articles it's not

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the first time so oh awesome and then uh wumble's question was you ready for it wumble's question was

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as a consumer should we be pushing manufacturers to add more physical cutoff switches to products

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kub um i don't i mean i i think it would be this on your phone

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i think it'd be cool i don't you know what what does it cost what like what what are the trade

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offs of them introducing a feature like that do i does it mean my iphone is a millimeter thicker

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um is that worth it maybe i should just like turn off my iphone or put it in a

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a faraday cage if i'm really you know i think having two phones is the way to go

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um did you see that clicks communicator device that they had no they had like a

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clicks communicator that's getting released.

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That was just for messages and stuff like that.

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But yeah, more and more these are becoming surveillance devices.

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Or they already are.

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But so I don't know.

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So I definitely would love to see mechanical stuff.

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But we were talking about it on, I forget which.

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Oh, yeah, it was this post.

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Yeah, it's real fake said he just wants a Linux phone.

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That's it.

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yeah i don't know what that what that means exactly once like a linux desktop that runs on a

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small device is that or it's like a oh like the the operating system like the kernel is the linux

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kernel so i think that's what he's saying okay there was that other phone we were looking at

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that has like a really cool linux thing to it but i forget what that was yeah i think this also

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reminded me that i think we got there was a past video that we did that got kind of blew up on

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YouTube a clip of us talking about graphene targeting other Android devices or other hardware

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and I'm pretty sure this is what it was actually about we just went off on a huge tangent that was

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wrong and all the people in the comments were like these guys have no idea what they're talking about

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which is true um people like watching that yeah they like they like watching people like

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lie to them unintentionally um and I think that's what we did but I I think what they're actually

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doing is they're creating their own hardware um in partnership with with a single manufacturer

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not targeting a wide array of devices yeah i wonder who the manufacturer is could be samsung

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no they said um they they they have they had someone in a tweet thread in that article

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talked possibly about samsung and how they're like close to pixel in terms of

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control i think software can have over the phone cool well that's wumble's picks check out next

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week when we go back into wumble's picks and see what he pulls out from his bag of picks

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plus um the next one i wanted to share was the uh ai stuff so this week is um uh what is it called

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CES. And there was a ton of

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really interesting stuff. One of them

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was, of course, Boston Dynamics

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and their next-gen humanoid

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robot.

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And I don't know if you saw this, but

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check out this video.

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They made children?

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Look at this.

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So that's how they were before, but now Google's

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going to get to play with these things.

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And you know what Google's going to do?

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They're going to make them look nice and really evil.

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Look at that thing.

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you ready for that to come

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deliver your

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Amazon packages?

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Why not? Is it cheaper?

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I don't know. Is it faster?

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I mean, I don't know.

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Probably not in the short term.

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Yeah.

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I saw some dude the other day

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in downtown here. He was like

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I think he was like breaking

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into one of those robots.

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I don't know what he was doing.

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It was just like some random

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guy.

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I don't like how many of them there are in this simulation.

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You're a rant?

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I don't like how many of them there are in the simulated future world.

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Mm-hmm.

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And I don't like robots.

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So there you go.

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That's not the world you want right there, Jana.

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Yeah, that's a lot.

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That's like more robots than people.

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Look at that.

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Don't you want your kids to grow up with that?

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It's really an invasion.

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It's a genocide.

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You don't want your kids to grow up in that?

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Look at this.

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no on your front lawn look at that they're mowing your lawn they're they're playing with

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their robot dogs that was his house like there was no human there that opened the door is walking

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into his home it's just always fun to me whenever i see this kind of stuff it's just like

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like i don't know it's just hilarious i don't know i'd roll with you know like a like a robot

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entourage like this imagine you just roll up to a party you just got 10 robots you don't even see

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an adult here and i never go that robot prop those are probably his kids

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you don't even see it oh yeah those are like the next generation

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where they have like skin they have kids as pets look at that

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can't unsee that once you see it look at that oh anyways so you have looked forward to the next

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thing I wanted to share was this one here was the energetic problem LL prob LLM's problems so

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that's because I practice this um I dropped this in slack but this is a this is mushy I'm just gonna

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the only reason I'm sharing this this is like must see um you have to watch this if you're in

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computer science, you have to watch this.

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This guy named

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Johan.

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Johan?

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He basically goes through all the different exploits

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currently for

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LLMs.

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It gets pretty

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good, man. I watched

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15 minutes of it.

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It goes pretty heavy. It even goes

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even more where he has PDFs

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here and he talks

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about all sorts of crazy

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stuff, man.

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that's a good watch too hard to explain too long to explain but uh if you if you're really interested

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in how to um hack with llms and what's capable right now this is definitely something you should

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watch and or if you just want to know how people are going to do it to you i would watch it but

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he's a really great guy he he disclosed all of this ahead of time before he went to the talk

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so i'm sure there's going to be like some cves what does cve stand for again guillem

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oh god what is it um exploit v i don't know i just know it's the it's what you put in front of bug

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uh bug disclosures it's like cataloged

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i would you know it's worth a google yeah cv yeah so he's basically doing all these disclosures ahead

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of time before he did this talk but it's worth a watch definitely worth a watch and he's really

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funny when he goes through this so it's entertaining he has a cat yeah one of the ones that waves

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yeah anyways wanted to share that do you have any thoughts on that kian no i didn't really

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understand what it was about um yeah i mean you know these things are powerful and so if they're

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doing human-like tasks and humans, one of the tasks they do is they exploit systems and they'll

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be able to exploit systems. He also said it's like the main takeaway from this is he started

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off the talk like agents like clicking on links and that's the main takeaway. So,

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oh i see this is this is about you using um an llm or any yeah and someone basically getting it to do

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something that you wouldn't have it do if you yeah he goes through the whole thing like he

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literally goes through each attack and walks you through it it's pretty cool he goes through like

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the github stuff too but it's it's must watch i'm gonna watch it this weekend because um it's good

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to know it's good to know so i wanted to show that to the stackers the other stuff let's um

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let's go to your post keon um you had the rumble wallet one is one of your posts what's this

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yeah so scores we went and checked out the rumble wallet uh they shipped this wallet i guess a few

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days ago um in partnership with tether i think tether gave them i think it was like a couple

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hundred million dollars and then i guess part of that is they agreed to integrate tether stable

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coin in addition to bitcoin payments into rumble um and so this is their wallet i guess it's all

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on chain from what i can tell and they have you do some kyc stuff and then i guess you still don't

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really get the wallet um i think you it's still like at some kind of beta where they only release

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it to certain creators with a certain level

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of I think

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rumble followers or something

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or views I don't know

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I think and then scores be it later he

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found some people

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on Twitter who had actually gotten deeper in the wallet

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that's

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you know they're

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yeah I haven't actually tried it

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or yeah here we go here's some of the

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actual pictures

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of the wallet

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so rumble is like youtube competitor so this is like just for tipping on a video that you like

470
00:32:48,394 --> 00:33:00,014
yes it's rumble is like uh like right wing ish like for yeah yeah relatively uncensored

471
00:33:00,014 --> 00:33:02,174
YouTube. Like politically

472
00:33:02,174 --> 00:33:05,594
a politically neutral

473
00:33:05,594 --> 00:33:08,174
YouTube, I guess, is kind of

474
00:33:08,174 --> 00:33:09,894
I think what they might call themselves.

475
00:33:11,094 --> 00:33:12,494
Anyone built a wallet

476
00:33:12,494 --> 00:33:14,254
just for their creator

477
00:33:14,254 --> 00:33:16,274
economy, kind of, to like

478
00:33:16,274 --> 00:33:17,574
be sustained by crypto?

479
00:33:21,314 --> 00:33:21,874
Yeah,

480
00:33:22,114 --> 00:33:23,674
I think so. They added

481
00:33:23,674 --> 00:33:24,854
this wallet

482
00:33:24,854 --> 00:33:28,154
I guess to help their creators

483
00:33:28,154 --> 00:33:29,454
get tipped.

484
00:33:30,014 --> 00:33:37,574
cool um it's early maybe they'll figure it out eventually um

485
00:33:37,574 --> 00:33:41,974
yeah but they clearly had not been paying attention to

486
00:33:41,974 --> 00:33:47,554
i guess other things that were happening out in the world and they

487
00:33:47,554 --> 00:33:56,414
no that's what i've heard is that the design is pretty atrocious um but also yeah

488
00:33:56,414 --> 00:34:02,374
uh the wall i guess the wallet itself is pretty bad like it doesn't make a whole bunch of sense

489
00:34:02,374 --> 00:34:13,314
and yeah maybe just you know i think it's like a beta ui on top of a beta development kit

490
00:34:13,314 --> 00:34:18,294
created by tether and maybe it's not a beta maybe that's the wrong word maybe they'd call it

491
00:34:18,294 --> 00:34:25,714
more mature but it's early but cool we get bitcoin in something sort of

492
00:34:25,714 --> 00:34:28,594
if you would also stable coins

493
00:34:28,594 --> 00:34:36,794
i think so i think they might have they might have gone public in a spack but

494
00:34:36,794 --> 00:34:46,794
like the new way to go public all right so the next one that you had was the uh

495
00:34:46,794 --> 00:34:54,914
what is it the uh how do you pronounce that dathan ohm all right there you go what's this

496
00:34:54,914 --> 00:35:06,154
you yeah so this is i guess the most mature state or the uh this is this is the farthest along we

497
00:35:06,154 --> 00:35:14,334
are in the knots versus core stuff dathan ohm is proposing a soft fork it's a lot like the

498
00:35:14,334 --> 00:35:20,194
previous soft fork that we've covered where it attempts to restrict consensus rules such that

499
00:35:20,194 --> 00:35:24,254
data carry like it limits like data carrying transactions by

500
00:35:24,254 --> 00:35:36,454
removing them as as valid transactions uh yeah so this i think he's on a second release candidate

501
00:35:36,454 --> 00:35:43,294
i think he's planning on or i think he's trying to get people to start running this

502
00:35:43,294 --> 00:35:51,894
and there's just some good debate about his activation procedure and the effectiveness of

503
00:35:51,894 --> 00:35:58,574
what he plans to do in the soft fork but i i think some of the best uh comments in this thread are

504
00:35:58,574 --> 00:36:10,674
about um the underlying like motivations and the process of activation um it's very it's quite

505
00:36:10,674 --> 00:36:16,594
deep in the thread i think not even on the first page you have to like curse into it but um optimism

506
00:36:16,594 --> 00:36:24,294
has a great comment that just it's like very mature amateur is not the right which is very

507
00:36:24,294 --> 00:36:31,374
well informed uh point of view on bitcoin and consensus i highly recommend reading it it's

508
00:36:31,374 --> 00:36:36,834
this one right here right yes yeah like what like one of the things is that uh the activation

509
00:36:36,834 --> 00:36:40,054
threshold is 55%,

510
00:36:40,054 --> 00:36:43,974
which historically it's been 95%.

511
00:36:43,974 --> 00:36:49,434
And we want 95% because it's kind of bad

512
00:36:49,434 --> 00:36:54,294
if 45% of miners are still mining

513
00:36:54,294 --> 00:36:58,614
on basically an invalid chain.

514
00:36:59,794 --> 00:37:01,634
And so you kind of want everyone to be signaling

515
00:37:01,634 --> 00:37:02,874
we're ready for this fork.

516
00:37:03,594 --> 00:37:05,014
And one of the things Dathan does

517
00:37:05,014 --> 00:37:07,014
is lower it to 55%.

518
00:37:07,014 --> 00:37:11,714
That's the main issue that optimism picks out here.

519
00:37:13,654 --> 00:37:15,194
But there are other things.

520
00:37:15,454 --> 00:37:18,294
In a follow-up comment, he gets into a technical critique

521
00:37:18,294 --> 00:37:21,254
of why he thinks the soft work is ineffective.

522
00:37:22,154 --> 00:37:23,994
It's like a very sober,

523
00:37:25,334 --> 00:37:28,974
very empathetic response to Dathan.

524
00:37:30,574 --> 00:37:32,754
And I thought it was, it's just a great read

525
00:37:32,754 --> 00:37:41,734
and really shows someone who really understands Bitcoin deeply, I think.

526
00:37:42,854 --> 00:37:46,154
And I highly recommend it.

527
00:37:50,094 --> 00:37:51,374
Yeah, it looks pretty long.

528
00:37:54,634 --> 00:37:55,394
All right.

529
00:37:55,634 --> 00:37:58,414
So I guess what are stackers supposed to do?

530
00:37:58,494 --> 00:38:14,568
Just read this and then upgrade or don upgrade what are we uh what are you recommending here i recommend they read the discussion and decide what they want to do I don have a recommendation for them

531
00:38:14,728 --> 00:38:18,348
I think, yeah, I think the general consensus,

532
00:38:18,728 --> 00:38:20,408
the social consensus is that

533
00:38:20,408 --> 00:38:23,628
all the data stuffing on-chain is bad

534
00:38:23,628 --> 00:38:24,588
and we don't want it,

535
00:38:24,788 --> 00:38:26,268
but we don't know how to solve it.

536
00:38:26,768 --> 00:38:28,508
No one's proposed a solution

537
00:38:28,508 --> 00:38:34,508
that everyone agrees is good and has has is not worse than doing nothing

538
00:38:36,908 --> 00:38:42,188
so i guess what's the main thing are they still arguing about the same thing about the yes okay

539
00:38:43,548 --> 00:38:50,108
spam spam spam shit coins spam then what side does optimism come come at it is he just kind of saying

540
00:38:50,108 --> 00:38:55,948
history he comes out here he represents i think the rational sober person's point of view which

541
00:38:55,948 --> 00:39:00,208
which is that, yes, data stuffing on Bitcoin is bad and we don't like it.

542
00:39:01,388 --> 00:39:02,588
Bitcoin is money.

543
00:39:03,408 --> 00:39:08,068
But we don't know how to prevent the data stuff on chain

544
00:39:08,068 --> 00:39:09,748
without causing something worse.

545
00:39:11,608 --> 00:39:13,528
That's basically what he's basically saying.

546
00:39:13,688 --> 00:39:15,388
That's what he says right here, the root issue.

547
00:39:16,908 --> 00:39:21,348
Yeah, I would read it if you want to understand his full point of view.

548
00:39:21,488 --> 00:39:23,228
But that's basically it.

549
00:39:23,228 --> 00:39:29,328
He calls out, he thinks that we should have done nothing,

550
00:39:29,608 --> 00:39:30,748
that doing nothing is great.

551
00:39:30,928 --> 00:39:33,688
We shouldn't have changed the data carrier size limit.

552
00:39:34,408 --> 00:39:35,988
That's one example of doing nothing.

553
00:39:35,988 --> 00:39:37,568
And the response to us changing,

554
00:39:37,808 --> 00:39:41,728
the best response to the data carrier size limit changing

555
00:39:41,728 --> 00:39:42,608
is doing nothing.

556
00:39:44,168 --> 00:39:46,108
He's basically saying stop now.

557
00:39:46,688 --> 00:39:49,008
It's just like, yeah, this doesn't need to escalate.

558
00:39:49,168 --> 00:39:52,568
Yes, that was a mistake to change the data carrier size limits,

559
00:39:52,568 --> 00:39:56,448
but it's also a mistake to run a hasty soft fork because you don't like it.

560
00:39:57,568 --> 00:39:58,228
I see what you're saying.

561
00:39:59,468 --> 00:39:59,868
Interesting.

562
00:40:01,748 --> 00:40:04,248
Optimism, if you're watching this, which I know you are,

563
00:40:04,988 --> 00:40:05,988
drop it in the comments.

564
00:40:06,228 --> 00:40:07,048
I don't think he does.

565
00:40:07,408 --> 00:40:08,588
No, he usually watches it a lot.

566
00:40:09,228 --> 00:40:10,288
Sometimes he says he does.

567
00:40:10,968 --> 00:40:17,968
So if you see this, definitely respond to what you want us to highlight here

568
00:40:17,968 --> 00:40:19,548
because it sounds like it's –

569
00:40:19,548 --> 00:40:21,268
Keon's saying it's this part, I guess, the root issue.

570
00:40:22,568 --> 00:40:24,548
So it sounds like it's a sobering.

571
00:40:26,688 --> 00:40:27,828
How did you describe Reino?

572
00:40:27,908 --> 00:40:32,268
You said it was a non-biased or what was the word you used?

573
00:40:33,188 --> 00:40:33,688
I would guess.

574
00:40:33,768 --> 00:40:35,288
Yeah, I would guess it's just a.

575
00:40:36,968 --> 00:40:37,808
Yeah, it's like.

576
00:40:38,808 --> 00:40:45,068
Yeah, it's just I think he represents the like neither side of the debate.

577
00:40:45,068 --> 00:40:50,688
The people who are foaming at the mouth about shit coins and data.

578
00:40:50,688 --> 00:40:58,488
who we know people like this and then people who are you know kind of reactive reacting to those

579
00:40:58,488 --> 00:41:03,708
people and are like no well the truth is you there's really not much you can do and we should

580
00:41:03,708 --> 00:41:10,068
actually just allow the data there's just there's this middle ground where it's like this is a

581
00:41:10,068 --> 00:41:17,788
reality of these systems that that accept data that people are going to make it look like valid

582
00:41:17,788 --> 00:41:24,428
transactions oh wow so he even goes into the code too huh yeah he's looked at the code wow

583
00:41:24,428 --> 00:41:31,948
there you go um interesting any other comments worth highlighting here or merge came in and they

584
00:41:31,948 --> 00:41:39,548
they um looked at the activation procedure and kind of i guess there's like a lot of

585
00:41:39,548 --> 00:41:46,128
his like historical background on that stuff and that's usually where a lot of people get

586
00:41:46,128 --> 00:41:48,388
in debates around Bitcoin forks

587
00:41:48,388 --> 00:41:51,628
after they agree on the changes

588
00:41:51,628 --> 00:41:54,848
that have social consensus

589
00:41:54,848 --> 00:41:56,528
is like how do we get it into the

590
00:41:56,528 --> 00:41:59,588
actually running on the network.

591
00:42:00,688 --> 00:42:03,368
And so we merged us some analysis of that.

592
00:42:03,888 --> 00:42:06,508
But I guess that can be very tricky.

593
00:42:07,228 --> 00:42:09,668
And I'm not super well-versed on it.

594
00:42:10,288 --> 00:42:11,828
Optimism also links to a guide,

595
00:42:11,828 --> 00:42:14,348
I think written by AJ Towns

596
00:42:14,348 --> 00:42:17,888
about how to activate a soft fork,

597
00:42:18,788 --> 00:42:21,528
which I think I'd seen before,

598
00:42:21,608 --> 00:42:23,488
but I have not looked into.

599
00:42:23,608 --> 00:42:25,748
So that's where I'd go if I actually wanted to,

600
00:42:26,548 --> 00:42:28,108
and I should, understand these things.

601
00:42:29,708 --> 00:42:31,608
He said he's watching live, by the way.

602
00:42:31,968 --> 00:42:33,428
Ah, okay, fine.

603
00:42:36,308 --> 00:42:38,128
Four times in the history of the show,

604
00:42:38,128 --> 00:42:38,928
a car has been right.

605
00:42:39,868 --> 00:42:40,428
Keep a count.

606
00:42:40,728 --> 00:42:40,968
Okay.

607
00:42:41,188 --> 00:42:41,928
Four times.

608
00:42:41,928 --> 00:42:44,708
I wasn't going to say.

609
00:42:44,868 --> 00:42:45,268
That's good.

610
00:42:45,628 --> 00:42:46,148
Good stuff.

611
00:42:46,408 --> 00:42:48,628
Well, we'll see if Optimism chimes in here later.

612
00:42:49,208 --> 00:42:52,628
And we'll give him the floor to add anything.

613
00:42:52,628 --> 00:42:56,848
And let us know if Coop screwed up so we can clear it up.

614
00:42:58,128 --> 00:42:59,048
Cool stuff.

615
00:43:00,328 --> 00:43:02,448
And then you had, I think that's it.

616
00:43:03,828 --> 00:43:05,268
Oh, I want to share some stuff.

617
00:43:05,368 --> 00:43:06,648
So did you see the Cloudflare stuff?

618
00:43:08,368 --> 00:43:09,088
Oh, yeah.

619
00:43:09,228 --> 00:43:10,288
I saw all the scores we shared.

620
00:43:10,648 --> 00:43:10,788
Yeah.

621
00:43:10,788 --> 00:43:17,748
Yeah, so basically what happened is Italy's trying to get them to block piracy.

622
00:43:18,728 --> 00:43:22,268
And the CEO of Cloudflare said, not on my watch.

623
00:43:23,868 --> 00:43:26,448
So that's what happened there.

624
00:43:27,768 --> 00:43:33,268
He also thinks it's a very great possibility that they'll say it's for piracy now,

625
00:43:33,308 --> 00:43:36,408
and then later it'll be because you are saying the wrong thing.

626
00:43:36,548 --> 00:43:38,608
So we know how slippery slope that goes.

627
00:43:40,788 --> 00:43:47,148
anyways do you got any thoughts on this are you pro cloudflare now are you still anti-cloudflare

628
00:43:47,148 --> 00:43:53,308
kian still anti-cloudflare was i ever when did i when was i i think when i first met you're very

629
00:43:53,308 --> 00:43:56,228
i think this is one of the times where you're wrong and the book i mean you've only been right

630
00:43:56,228 --> 00:44:03,308
four times so we should just you should know that this is one of the many times more frequent times

631
00:44:03,308 --> 00:44:10,168
that you're wrong um yeah uh you're not definitely pro cloudflare i'm not you know i don't have any

632
00:44:10,168 --> 00:44:15,208
reason to be pro or against are you like are you pro that man that just walked by like i'm not

633
00:44:15,208 --> 00:44:22,248
it's just yeah like i don't i'm pro tophar i'm pro tophar too but i especially when he has italian

634
00:44:22,248 --> 00:44:26,548
food yeah i just don't i don't have i don't feel like i need to have an opinion on cloudflare so i

635
00:44:26,548 --> 00:44:32,168
don't have one yeah okay well just kind of share that for the uh people at home

636
00:44:32,168 --> 00:44:38,428
what about the people that are not at home what about the people on who are running around the

637
00:44:38,428 --> 00:44:46,468
streets car i have nothing for them because they're not watching this very telling uh let

638
00:44:46,468 --> 00:44:54,688
me see here the next one i wanted to bring up was um mockley did you see this so i posted this this

639
00:44:54,688 --> 00:45:01,748
week i thought this was cool okay so let's make a fake message on yeah we can use discord what do

640
00:45:01,748 --> 00:45:03,368
Who do you want to message?

641
00:45:03,868 --> 00:45:05,248
You want to message Elon Musk?

642
00:45:08,508 --> 00:45:08,828
I know.

643
00:45:08,928 --> 00:45:09,688
We'll make this.

644
00:45:10,088 --> 00:45:10,388
Coob.

645
00:45:12,728 --> 00:45:13,568
We'll do this.

646
00:45:13,668 --> 00:45:13,968
Wow.

647
00:45:14,148 --> 00:45:14,368
Elon.

648
00:45:15,748 --> 00:45:17,308
And then we'll make some messages here.

649
00:45:17,548 --> 00:45:18,768
Oh, I'm messaging Elon.

650
00:45:18,768 --> 00:45:19,948
Hey, Elon.

651
00:45:21,648 --> 00:45:22,868
What's up, bro?

652
00:45:25,128 --> 00:45:25,448
Bro.

653
00:45:27,088 --> 00:45:28,828
He goes, yo, Coob.

654
00:45:28,828 --> 00:45:32,208
Yo, Coob

655
00:45:32,208 --> 00:45:35,728
Sick update this week

656
00:45:35,728 --> 00:45:38,028
What if he did this?

657
00:45:38,068 --> 00:45:39,248
Sick update this week

658
00:45:39,248 --> 00:45:42,368
Thanks

659
00:45:42,368 --> 00:45:44,988
What sucks

660
00:45:44,988 --> 00:45:46,068
Boom

661
00:45:46,068 --> 00:45:47,708
And then Elon goes

662
00:45:47,708 --> 00:45:49,668
Nice

663
00:45:49,668 --> 00:45:51,568
And then you go

664
00:45:51,568 --> 00:45:53,148
Hey

665
00:45:53,148 --> 00:45:54,848
Come through

666
00:45:54,848 --> 00:45:58,988
through the lab

667
00:45:58,988 --> 00:46:01,148
this week.

668
00:46:02,948 --> 00:46:05,028
Anyways, I think you see where this is going.

669
00:46:05,768 --> 00:46:07,648
And then, yeah, you just kind of do that.

670
00:46:08,788 --> 00:46:09,488
Isn't that pretty cool?

671
00:46:10,148 --> 00:46:12,008
You can be like, see ya

672
00:46:12,008 --> 00:46:13,988
on Friday.

673
00:46:15,368 --> 00:46:17,548
Because he's Elon, he says Friday, right?

674
00:46:18,248 --> 00:46:18,988
It's that kind of guy.

675
00:46:19,068 --> 00:46:19,668
Free ya.

676
00:46:20,088 --> 00:46:20,388
Fry.

677
00:46:20,648 --> 00:46:22,808
It's like not Friday, but it's like fry.

678
00:46:23,408 --> 00:46:23,728
Yay.

679
00:46:23,888 --> 00:46:24,408
Oh, hang on.

680
00:46:24,848 --> 00:46:26,128
Fry-yay.

681
00:46:26,548 --> 00:46:27,328
That's Elon.

682
00:46:27,668 --> 00:46:28,588
He's that kind of guy.

683
00:46:29,348 --> 00:46:32,508
See you on Fry-yay, meaning Friday, yeah.

684
00:46:33,648 --> 00:46:34,348
All right.

685
00:46:34,488 --> 00:46:35,408
What do you think about that?

686
00:46:35,768 --> 00:46:39,748
That's your text message with Elon Musk.

687
00:46:39,968 --> 00:46:43,468
Yeah, never thought I'd fake text message Elon Musk,

688
00:46:43,468 --> 00:46:45,468
but here I am in 2026.

689
00:46:46,268 --> 00:46:46,628
Pretty cool, right?

690
00:46:46,868 --> 00:46:47,168
Yeah.

691
00:46:47,708 --> 00:46:47,968
Yeah.

692
00:46:48,388 --> 00:46:52,408
You can even do dark mode for the people that are, you know,

693
00:46:53,328 --> 00:46:54,568
because Coop would have dark mode.

694
00:46:54,568 --> 00:46:58,888
he probably would have dark book he probably don't know if i do have dark my dog would it be

695
00:46:58,888 --> 00:47:03,948
trans i think i have the i think i have night shifts that one there turns on at night you're

696
00:47:03,948 --> 00:47:12,328
not a status bar kind of guy right yeah and um yeah i think that looks legit how do you think

697
00:47:12,328 --> 00:47:16,108
you'll use this other than i just wanted to show off because i thought it was pretty funny how like

698
00:47:16,108 --> 00:47:20,648
you can make any messages or not any there's something to pay for but you can just fake a

699
00:47:20,648 --> 00:47:24,288
message just like we did right now with you and elon yeah but i mean people have been doing this

700
00:47:24,288 --> 00:47:29,628
themselves for a long time right yeah with like photoshop and stuff yeah i'm pretty cool right

701
00:47:29,628 --> 00:47:37,228
yeah it's neat that we make it easier to lie to each other yeah yeah i think so anyways want to

702
00:47:37,228 --> 00:47:45,008
share that one um and the last one is this one this just came in through late into the day

703
00:47:45,008 --> 00:47:53,468
apparently nasa is evacuating an alien crew member did you hear about this this guy right here

704
00:47:54,288 --> 00:48:00,608
That guy right there is, he's sick on the space station.

705
00:48:01,588 --> 00:48:02,328
Oh, yeah.

706
00:48:02,348 --> 00:48:06,188
And they didn't, I guess it's, yeah, I hope he's not super sick.

707
00:48:06,268 --> 00:48:08,888
They didn't say what was wrong, but hopefully he doesn't have.

708
00:48:09,308 --> 00:48:13,868
They basically said that when you send people up there,

709
00:48:13,928 --> 00:48:15,888
you don't typically come back down if you're sick.

710
00:48:16,428 --> 00:48:19,668
And they also said that they're supposed to do a spacewalk.

711
00:48:21,388 --> 00:48:23,068
So these are them right there.

712
00:48:24,288 --> 00:48:30,148
isn't that crazy that looks like a really comfortable chair too

713
00:48:30,148 --> 00:48:34,188
what'd you say it looks like a really comfortable chair

714
00:48:34,188 --> 00:48:40,868
i bet it is i bet it's pretty well padded they might even like make them spell for your body

715
00:48:40,868 --> 00:48:46,788
oh you think so yeah i can see that it's weird that they they kind of lift off the ground like

716
00:48:46,788 --> 00:48:51,088
that though it's like the the steel beam in there is that that's probably steel right

717
00:48:51,088 --> 00:48:57,428
that here yeah yeah it's probably fixed in place this is kind of weird i don't know why they would

718
00:48:57,428 --> 00:49:02,788
you just use velcro there is that velcro yeah it's because you don't have gravity and you're

719
00:49:02,788 --> 00:49:07,688
not necessarily but what about when you're going up into space though what if you're just like

720
00:49:07,688 --> 00:49:12,008
legs just go all the way up and you're just like well i think the forces are really high so it

721
00:49:12,008 --> 00:49:12,608
pushes down.

722
00:49:14,828 --> 00:49:15,848
Calm down.

723
00:49:17,068 --> 00:49:17,848
Calm down.

724
00:49:20,448 --> 00:49:21,568
Anyways, I thought it was cool.

725
00:49:23,188 --> 00:49:23,688
I can't hear.

726
00:49:24,128 --> 00:49:25,428
The thing is I can't hear.

727
00:49:26,128 --> 00:49:27,208
She doesn't have a mic.

728
00:49:27,928 --> 00:49:30,168
I think she's

729
00:49:30,168 --> 00:49:32,188
like here and bored.

730
00:49:32,508 --> 00:49:33,108
I think is what.

731
00:49:33,108 --> 00:49:34,328
Oh, okay. Anyways.

732
00:49:35,188 --> 00:49:36,468
Do you have any remedies,

733
00:49:36,868 --> 00:49:38,368
poet, for him who's sick?

734
00:49:38,588 --> 00:49:39,268
Yeah, do you have any?

735
00:49:40,048 --> 00:49:41,828
You're a healer.

736
00:49:42,008 --> 00:49:43,588
Yeah, this guy.

737
00:49:43,768 --> 00:49:46,168
He looks like, what does he look like he has right there?

738
00:49:46,768 --> 00:49:50,548
The guy in the reflection or the person I'm assuming inside the helmet.

739
00:49:50,928 --> 00:49:52,128
No, the guy in the reflection.

740
00:49:52,288 --> 00:49:53,208
He's the one that's sick.

741
00:49:54,208 --> 00:49:54,888
What should he do?

742
00:49:55,048 --> 00:49:56,008
What should he take up there?

743
00:49:56,768 --> 00:49:57,668
Or should we just bring him home?

744
00:49:57,808 --> 00:49:58,368
Vitamin D.

745
00:49:58,468 --> 00:49:59,808
He's probably not getting enough sunshine.

746
00:50:03,028 --> 00:50:06,668
Yeah, he does look like he has the COVID.

747
00:50:08,488 --> 00:50:09,068
Could be.

748
00:50:10,008 --> 00:50:11,128
Either that or...

749
00:50:11,128 --> 00:50:21,828
yeah anyways this is like uh this is like the movie the martian anyways um that's all the stuff

750
00:50:21,828 --> 00:50:29,148
that we got here on stacker news live this week i think that's everything right and then we got

751
00:50:29,148 --> 00:50:37,608
the zine that's right one more thing but what is uh what is the zine this week um it's another

752
00:50:37,608 --> 00:50:44,408
zine this week it's got eight pages and they're full of the top stories and the memes and the fun

753
00:50:44,408 --> 00:50:53,648
little doodles and drawings um that you can come to expect from the zine every week and uh

754
00:50:53,648 --> 00:51:01,148
we're looking at the cover page right there on the screen um and then we're looking at siggy's

755
00:51:01,148 --> 00:51:06,368
story right there i like i liked that and then thank you very much koob for showing it off

756
00:51:06,368 --> 00:51:13,288
Oh, so something I announced in this post is the next round of subscriptions is now available.

757
00:51:13,728 --> 00:51:24,008
If you'd like to subscribe and receive a zine every Friday, or if you're outside the U.S. one time in bulk, then subscribe.

758
00:51:24,188 --> 00:51:27,708
And you'll get all of January, February, and March zines.

759
00:51:28,188 --> 00:51:32,608
Because I'm making them every week, and it's super fun.

760
00:51:34,008 --> 00:51:35,408
You got any questions, Car?

761
00:51:35,788 --> 00:51:37,048
I do have a lot of questions.

762
00:51:38,348 --> 00:51:39,628
What is all this up here?

763
00:51:39,688 --> 00:51:41,728
Where did you get that red from and all that kind of stuff?

764
00:51:41,768 --> 00:51:42,808
What was the idea behind this?

765
00:51:43,208 --> 00:51:44,908
Behind what part?

766
00:51:45,008 --> 00:51:45,548
The front cover.

767
00:51:46,168 --> 00:51:48,668
Oh, actually, I can show you exactly where that came from.

768
00:51:48,668 --> 00:51:55,828
So I went to something I love to do is to go to our public library where there is a zine collection.

769
00:51:56,348 --> 00:52:02,248
And I was inspired and I kind of ripped off this one.

770
00:52:03,008 --> 00:52:03,728
Oh, wow.

771
00:52:03,728 --> 00:52:04,528
That's really cool.

772
00:52:05,408 --> 00:52:08,608
that looks like a Fahrenheit 451 type of thing.

773
00:52:09,748 --> 00:52:11,408
Yeah, that's cool.

774
00:52:12,068 --> 00:52:15,588
But, so yeah, I went over there and that was good.

775
00:52:15,688 --> 00:52:19,408
I'm debating on if I should give some zines to the library.

776
00:52:20,928 --> 00:52:22,188
But I...

777
00:52:22,188 --> 00:52:23,448
Can they pay in sats, you think?

778
00:52:23,628 --> 00:52:24,808
No, you just donate them.

779
00:52:26,188 --> 00:52:27,788
I think it might be worth it.

780
00:52:29,568 --> 00:52:31,808
I mean, we have some over there if you want to grab those.

781
00:52:32,468 --> 00:52:32,788
Okay.

782
00:52:32,788 --> 00:52:38,168
I mean it won't there's nothing like there's nothing really to be gained except like maybe

783
00:52:38,168 --> 00:52:45,708
someone will happen to pick it up one day um my fear is someone picks it up doesn't like what they

784
00:52:45,708 --> 00:52:51,008
see inside and then I become a target what do you mean become a target because the zine because

785
00:52:51,008 --> 00:52:56,048
these zines would not necessarily be like welcome company among the types of zines that are there

786
00:52:56,048 --> 00:53:01,168
oh I see what you're saying maybe make a maybe make a safe for the library edition next week

787
00:53:01,168 --> 00:53:05,528
or something okay i'll try it actually that might be a fun challenge and then i'm probably going to

788
00:53:05,528 --> 00:53:10,928
go every every month the library has like a zine night where they like make zines so i think i'm

789
00:53:10,928 --> 00:53:16,928
going to go to that and then i'll take the library safe zine over there yeah i would because yeah you

790
00:53:16,928 --> 00:53:23,328
don't want to get flagged and then they're like she's uh whatever right yeah they take it down to

791
00:53:23,328 --> 00:53:28,368
the library or something but yeah i thought this one was really fun wow you did a better job of

792
00:53:28,368 --> 00:53:30,068
covering the Venezuela thing than we just did.

793
00:53:30,308 --> 00:53:30,808
That's awesome.

794
00:53:30,988 --> 00:53:31,228
Oh.

795
00:53:31,708 --> 00:53:37,508
Well, did you see the photo of Maduro in a bikini that got in there?

796
00:53:37,868 --> 00:53:38,228
No.

797
00:53:38,428 --> 00:53:39,368
Keep going down.

798
00:53:40,428 --> 00:53:41,328
You just passed it.

799
00:53:41,548 --> 00:53:42,488
What is that?

800
00:53:42,608 --> 00:53:43,408
Is that a snake?

801
00:53:44,308 --> 00:53:44,568
That's weird.

802
00:53:44,588 --> 00:53:45,428
That's slime.

803
00:53:45,868 --> 00:53:46,308
Oh, okay.

804
00:53:47,628 --> 00:53:48,628
I passed it, you said.

805
00:53:48,828 --> 00:53:49,348
Yeah, right there.

806
00:53:49,448 --> 00:53:50,048
Over here, yeah.

807
00:53:50,048 --> 00:53:50,288
Yeah.

808
00:53:51,048 --> 00:53:51,528
Interesting.

809
00:53:53,908 --> 00:53:54,348
Wow.

810
00:53:56,208 --> 00:53:57,008
This is cool.

811
00:53:57,008 --> 00:53:58,828
I like how you have the layout now.

812
00:53:58,948 --> 00:54:00,348
This is a different type of layout, huh?

813
00:54:01,628 --> 00:54:03,068
Or is it just for this edition?

814
00:54:07,108 --> 00:54:12,488
I guess I kind of made things look a little bit more bold,

815
00:54:12,648 --> 00:54:15,648
but it's not super different from normal, I don't think.

816
00:54:15,648 --> 00:54:17,988
The way it has like this here at the top,

817
00:54:18,488 --> 00:54:21,008
top and close, and then it has like this here on the side.

818
00:54:21,408 --> 00:54:22,088
It's really cool.

819
00:54:22,348 --> 00:54:22,568
Right.

820
00:54:23,148 --> 00:54:23,548
Thanks.

821
00:54:24,108 --> 00:54:24,888
Great job.

822
00:54:24,888 --> 00:54:34,048
this feels very much alive this makes snacker news feel very much alive um well i'm glad it's um

823
00:54:34,048 --> 00:54:41,968
feels it's warmer definitely warmer awesome and then where can they go they just click on this

824
00:54:41,968 --> 00:54:47,648
right here to do the seasonal sub is that where they're just going to click on all right let's see

825
00:54:47,648 --> 00:54:53,968
boom right there get them while they last or 30 000 cents 30k cents that's pretty it's pretty

826
00:54:53,968 --> 00:54:58,668
inexpensive boom right here and you get your january february and march

827
00:54:58,668 --> 00:55:12,888
yeah four zines a month for three months yeah cool stuff um great job we're gonna jump into the

828
00:55:12,888 --> 00:55:22,288
meta stuff kian you released um cross posting this week i did yeah so now you can post to more

829
00:55:22,288 --> 00:55:24,028
than one territory at a time.

830
00:55:25,348 --> 00:55:31,188
That's the silly, wacky stuff we're doing here on Stacker News.

831
00:55:32,408 --> 00:55:36,428
And, yeah, it's been cool seeing people do it.

832
00:55:37,748 --> 00:55:39,688
And it, like, makes sense.

833
00:55:41,468 --> 00:55:43,708
And, yeah.

834
00:55:44,648 --> 00:55:47,088
And then Socks is continuing the WYSIWYG editor.

835
00:55:47,088 --> 00:55:55,488
socks is that is kind of under the influence of a virus right now so he is

836
00:55:55,488 --> 00:56:00,688
he's recovering and getting better so we weren't able to do any editor stuff this week everybody's

837
00:56:00,688 --> 00:56:06,488
getting that on earth including outer space so sounds like uh sounds like it's

838
00:56:06,488 --> 00:56:09,848
sounds like it's going all over the place

839
00:56:09,848 --> 00:56:11,368
wow

840
00:56:11,368 --> 00:56:14,368
yeah

841
00:56:14,368 --> 00:56:17,608
who's that Jeff

842
00:56:17,608 --> 00:56:17,988
Copa

843
00:56:17,988 --> 00:56:21,888
he did such a good job

844
00:56:21,888 --> 00:56:23,388
there yeah he's always pretty

845
00:56:23,388 --> 00:56:25,668
like this guy I just saw like a clip of him

846
00:56:25,668 --> 00:56:27,908
where he's on a jumbotron or something

847
00:56:27,908 --> 00:56:29,628
and like as soon as

848
00:56:29,628 --> 00:56:31,828
they show a picture of him on a jumbotron

849
00:56:31,828 --> 00:56:33,728
he just like lights up and starts playing

850
00:56:33,728 --> 00:56:35,828
to the camera he really is one of those

851
00:56:35,828 --> 00:56:37,288
guys but I also heard another

852
00:56:37,288 --> 00:56:39,628
crazy story where like

853
00:56:39,628 --> 00:56:46,548
yeah some other weird stuff but we'll see that for after the show who's that guy from oh god

854
00:56:46,548 --> 00:56:52,008
catch me if you can so like leonardo camprio no the other guy tom hanks no the other guy

855
00:56:52,008 --> 00:56:57,828
there is no the older guy christopher walken christopher walken yeah so that's who jeff

856
00:56:57,828 --> 00:57:15,982
goldblum reminds you of really yeah they have a similar kind of their cadence is like um it No but but they but no but no the like if you have like the quality of modifying cadence

857
00:57:16,782 --> 00:57:25,502
or effect as a style thing yeah christopher walken also does that yeah i don't know did you ever see

858
00:57:25,502 --> 00:57:30,382
the video where christopher walken's like dancing and stuff did you ever see that no but i saw the

859
00:57:30,382 --> 00:57:37,622
he's walking no wait okay i see what you're saying it's not christopher dance it's like

860
00:57:37,622 --> 00:57:45,562
christopher dancing anyways um the other one that you had was uh podcast what is this one here um

861
00:57:45,562 --> 00:57:52,462
the auctions oh yeah it's about yeah yeah confusing with all these colors so scores

862
00:57:52,462 --> 00:57:58,962
Scorsese was trying to make this approachable for people,

863
00:57:59,102 --> 00:58:02,802
but I guess it didn't exactly.

864
00:58:04,162 --> 00:58:06,322
Well, at least according to you, it was a little.

865
00:58:06,402 --> 00:58:07,262
I'm just unfiltered.

866
00:58:07,662 --> 00:58:10,042
I can say things.

867
00:58:11,822 --> 00:58:12,282
Oh, he doesn't.

868
00:58:12,402 --> 00:58:16,722
Yeah, I guess it was too much text, but the gist of it is that.

869
00:58:16,982 --> 00:58:18,122
Also, I'm a visual learner.

870
00:58:18,122 --> 00:58:21,662
I need images and stuff.

871
00:58:21,662 --> 00:58:25,562
Plus, I know on Friday you're going to explain it to me, so I just wait, you know.

872
00:58:25,982 --> 00:58:27,242
Which I know you hate.

873
00:58:27,782 --> 00:58:31,182
No, I didn't mean to say anything like that.

874
00:58:31,182 --> 00:58:48,042
I mostly just meant to explain the post, which is that everything on Stacker News, or the hot rank now, quote-unquote Zap rank, which doesn't really need its own name much anymore.

875
00:58:48,282 --> 00:58:48,922
So what's the hot?

876
00:58:49,022 --> 00:58:50,482
Wait, so start all over for the Stackers.

877
00:58:50,482 --> 00:58:59,162
what's the hot rank um about the burn the burn color or that what you mean by hot rank no hot

878
00:58:59,162 --> 00:59:03,342
rank is what is how the home page is ranked okay yeah yeah that's like the so it's just a more

879
00:59:03,342 --> 00:59:10,422
ranking system yeah by by saps well there's many ways to sort things and hot is one type of sort

880
00:59:10,422 --> 00:59:18,122
which has this timeliness to it so things that are more recent and also popular rank higher in a hot

881
00:59:18,122 --> 00:59:23,902
rank so we're not going by web of trust anymore is what you're saying that is one aspect of it

882
00:59:23,902 --> 00:59:29,402
um that has been removed as we don't we've removed trust from ranking and it's all based on sats so

883
00:59:29,402 --> 00:59:35,042
basically posts that have more sats either in the form of zaps from other people or boost wasn't that

884
00:59:35,042 --> 00:59:40,362
originally how it was originally um when you first launched it was it always we were just

885
00:59:40,362 --> 00:59:46,162
no it was not always web of trust but it was never purely based on sats because we couldn't

886
00:59:46,162 --> 00:59:54,062
um i thought when i got on there like 21 it was just sets wasn't it well for the as as i'll say

887
00:59:54,062 --> 01:00:05,562
again no okay yeah i was checking yeah um been a long time 25 no we're in 26 now gosh five years

888
01:00:05,562 --> 01:00:11,922
stacker needs huh yeah nearly i mean not not exactly yet but i think he launched it what march

889
01:00:11,922 --> 01:00:19,282
uh no i think it was june of 21 is when i launched it and then it wasn't really a company

890
01:00:19,282 --> 01:00:25,862
it was just yeah just kind of me then what did i meet you like in may or april i think it was like

891
01:00:25,862 --> 01:00:30,022
july maybe august okay was that with the bitcoin conferences

892
01:00:30,022 --> 01:00:35,682
yeah i think so i think it was like july probably

893
01:00:35,682 --> 01:00:42,842
it's a long time i don't think i'd launch no it was in i think it was early summer or spring that

894
01:00:42,842 --> 01:00:49,422
year and i hadn't even launched it yet yeah i was just working i was almost done with it i was

895
01:00:49,422 --> 01:00:56,362
because i remember i went up there and i was like i might open source it oh wow yeah that was so i

896
01:00:56,362 --> 01:01:01,382
i was just at the point where it was like working but you had web of trust back then

897
01:01:01,382 --> 01:01:08,802
no okay no so if you want the full history of ranking it was like sort of a normal

898
01:01:08,802 --> 01:01:14,722
sort of a normal ranking where i would like count the number of people who had zapped it

899
01:01:14,722 --> 01:01:22,422
and that's how it was ranked and then eventually that evolved um two an hour ago to being weighted

900
01:01:22,422 --> 01:01:30,022
to being uh based on the number of people and the amount that they zapped and then eventually that

901
01:01:30,022 --> 01:01:37,942
changed to web of trust and then it was web of trust with civil resistance uh in it like financial

902
01:01:37,942 --> 01:01:44,742
civil resistance in addition to the trust civil resistance and then now we're just on financial

903
01:01:44,742 --> 01:01:50,982
civil resistance is basically the way to view it everything is based on sats there you go it's right

904
01:01:50,982 --> 01:02:02,342
here it's all in the details pretty cool yeah look at more sats than cowboy credits on this one

905
01:02:02,342 --> 01:02:09,062
interesting that's kind of frequently how it is anything down here you want to cover what's this

906
01:02:09,062 --> 01:02:16,582
down here oh we're trying to one of the things we've been wanting to do is um allow things to

907
01:02:16,582 --> 01:02:23,582
be ranked not or not things things currently decay based on the time when the item was posted

908
01:02:23,582 --> 01:02:29,902
and not when the zapping occurs but or we've been discussing for a long time and undisciplined has

909
01:02:29,902 --> 01:02:35,242
been a champion of this approach where we rank things based on when zaps occur so that something

910
01:02:35,242 --> 01:02:44,302
that's old if it gets a big zap today possibly ends up on the front page again maybe again or

911
01:02:44,302 --> 01:02:49,122
maybe for the first time, maybe it was ignored the first time it was post a year ago and it got

912
01:02:49,122 --> 01:02:54,662
no zaps at all, but maybe undisciplined or someone finds it and they're like, man, this is great. I

913
01:02:54,662 --> 01:02:59,622
wish, I wish more people saw this and they can go and zap it and it ends up back on that front page.

914
01:02:59,622 --> 01:03:03,482
So you have things that are potentially a little bit older that can compete with new things.

915
01:03:04,602 --> 01:03:09,622
And, um, yeah, so we're exploring ways to do that. And simple stacker came up with,

916
01:03:09,622 --> 01:03:13,882
I think probably like the simplest approach to doing this,

917
01:03:13,982 --> 01:03:16,562
which is this exponential decay.

918
01:03:18,222 --> 01:03:18,662
Yeah.

919
01:03:19,362 --> 01:03:24,362
I feel like I usually just sort by top.

920
01:03:24,582 --> 01:03:26,462
And so I just go to this anyway,

921
01:03:26,642 --> 01:03:31,062
and I'll just go here and I'll just do one of these or I'll do recent,

922
01:03:31,862 --> 01:03:34,002
you know, that kind of, I feel like I do that anyway.

923
01:03:34,882 --> 01:03:39,062
So, but there was a time where I didn't do that just because I felt like this

924
01:03:39,062 --> 01:03:44,482
was very confusing but maybe over the years i've gotten used to how to use this more effectively

925
01:03:44,482 --> 01:03:50,562
but uh other than that i think it's fine i don't know are you going to change anything now or

926
01:03:50,562 --> 01:04:02,002
anything more um yeah so i'd like to experiment with the uh the zap based uh time decay i'd also

927
01:04:02,002 --> 01:04:11,942
like to maybe refine the game theory around um like the actions and how much they contribute to

928
01:04:11,942 --> 01:04:17,302
ranking there was some discussion i had in there with optimism about that another thing i'd like

929
01:04:17,302 --> 01:04:24,482
to do is for really banger comments to somehow end up on the front page like one of the like

930
01:04:24,482 --> 01:04:30,082
most people i think would have missed optimism's comment had he not put it in the saloon or if

931
01:04:30,082 --> 01:04:35,922
weren't subscribed to optimism and so what i'd like to do is if a comment gets a really high zap

932
01:04:36,642 --> 01:04:43,042
somehow surface that among um posts so that people don't miss it because sometimes they can get

933
01:04:43,042 --> 01:04:50,002
really buried and that's really where a lot of the value happens um that's like another thing i want

934
01:04:50,002 --> 01:04:54,082
to do ranking eventually but i really need to work on onboarding so i'll probably be working on that

935
01:04:54,082 --> 01:04:57,922
more than yeah because you can still sort by top comments right

936
01:04:57,922 --> 01:05:08,042
um yeah but most people are not going deep into panels like this and knowing to look for these

937
01:05:08,042 --> 01:05:13,362
things what you kind of want is the default experience to be the best experience you can

938
01:05:13,362 --> 01:05:18,962
give and so surfacing high value comments on the home page a little bit would probably be good

939
01:05:18,962 --> 01:05:24,442
also encourage people to create or even inside the saloon i would say i don't know how you would

940
01:05:24,442 --> 01:05:30,862
do that but yeah the saloon might be okay but i think even the saloon is kind of like mostly uh

941
01:05:30,862 --> 01:05:36,062
people who are quite frequent stackers so you kind of want people who are lurkers to be able to find

942
01:05:36,062 --> 01:05:42,362
these like hidden yeah what is the you want the average experience to be great better yeah not

943
01:05:42,362 --> 01:05:50,582
not the deep experience to be great and the average experience to be decent yeah um cool

944
01:05:50,582 --> 01:05:58,342
let's jump back into here i think that's everything optimism did chime in he said um

945
01:05:58,342 --> 01:06:05,642
he said watching live p.s that's not what signal looks like laughing which yeah uh he did say my

946
01:06:05,642 --> 01:06:10,782
comment to cube got it pretty close to what i was trying to convey i think what bottom line i tried

947
01:06:10,782 --> 01:06:16,962
to do is to be as non-aggressive as i can on a topic that is endlessly pisses me off but explain

948
01:06:16,962 --> 01:06:24,622
why i am not supporting their soft work because the assertion earlier was in quotes you just like

949
01:06:24,622 --> 01:06:30,002
data and the soft work is the best way best and only way to fix it end quote i think that not

950
01:06:30,002 --> 01:06:35,282
fixing it is better than the soft work but i also think that if we really just want to measure how

951
01:06:35,282 --> 01:06:41,222
many bitcoiners slash miners support this then this isn't so painful and it could be done without

952
01:06:41,222 --> 01:06:47,262
massive risk yeah there's said yeah dathan had some weird things to say in that thread where it's

953
01:06:47,262 --> 01:06:53,262
like i asked bitcoiners if they like data on chain and they say no therefore they support the soft

954
01:06:53,262 --> 01:07:00,322
fork like it's like that that was that's like his chain of reasoning and uh i don't think they do

955
01:07:00,322 --> 01:07:05,702
support the soft fork i think i think they they oppose the soft fork and don't like data on chain

956
01:07:05,702 --> 01:07:16,862
and those those two things are true so uh that's what i'd guess and yeah i think that's what

957
01:07:16,862 --> 01:07:24,822
optimism is trying to help him say yeah really interesting stuff um yeah it's been a busy week

958
01:07:24,822 --> 01:07:32,082
on stacker news i didn't realize just a lot of stuff um got the youtube well i guess we'll go

959
01:07:32,082 --> 01:07:33,782
to the most popular segment of Bitcoin

960
01:07:33,782 --> 01:07:35,922
outside of Wombo's Picks is the

961
01:07:35,922 --> 01:07:37,122
Cowboy segment.

962
01:07:37,782 --> 01:07:40,002
Key on, Gideon, nope.

963
01:07:40,462 --> 01:07:42,002
Are you saying Wombo's Picks is competing

964
01:07:42,002 --> 01:07:44,062
with the Cowboy segment? It is. I think it definitely

965
01:07:44,062 --> 01:07:45,442
is. I think eventually it'll just

966
01:07:45,442 --> 01:07:48,042
take over the whole show. Eventually it'll just

967
01:07:48,042 --> 01:07:49,842
be the top

968
01:07:49,842 --> 01:07:52,062
three Wombo Picks of the week

969
01:07:52,062 --> 01:07:53,442
or, you know, it'll just be that.

970
01:07:54,822 --> 01:07:55,762
We got Coop.

971
01:07:55,962 --> 01:07:57,942
Number two, Undiscipline, Blockchain

972
01:07:57,942 --> 01:07:59,802
Boog. There's

973
01:07:59,802 --> 01:08:02,062
Toshi, Optimism, Scores, BOT,

974
01:08:02,082 --> 01:08:04,702
T. Womble. Oh, Womble's coming up.

975
01:08:04,802 --> 01:08:06,282
Number 14. Wow.

976
01:08:06,682 --> 01:08:08,242
End of the mic. Yeah.

977
01:08:09,202 --> 01:08:10,342
Looks like nothing

978
01:08:10,342 --> 01:08:11,902
has changed.

979
01:08:12,562 --> 01:08:14,302
Aardvark came back this week. Did you see that?

980
01:08:14,762 --> 01:08:16,602
Yeah, it came back strong. He said he

981
01:08:16,602 --> 01:08:18,202
also put on the

982
01:08:18,202 --> 01:08:20,422
LBs. You will see

983
01:08:20,422 --> 01:08:22,622
some of his comeback as a

984
01:08:22,622 --> 01:08:23,522
fit

985
01:08:23,522 --> 01:08:26,042
influencer. Real big boy dog he's been

986
01:08:26,042 --> 01:08:27,662
hanging around too.

987
01:08:29,142 --> 01:08:29,622
Yeah.

988
01:08:30,002 --> 01:08:31,842
How many? How come we had to swap?

989
01:08:31,842 --> 01:08:38,822
oh two days okay it's not bad you put your old thriller logo up sure did buddy because somebody

990
01:08:38,822 --> 01:08:45,682
deleted mine are we gonna this huh i said because somebody deleted mine oh yeah the thriller gonna

991
01:08:45,682 --> 01:08:54,162
come back uh i've just been posting on there just for my own personal stuff um i mean people like to

992
01:08:54,162 --> 01:09:01,522
read my stuff coob i don't explain it some things don't defy explanation car i think so

993
01:09:01,522 --> 01:09:03,682
Yeah, that's pretty much everything here.

994
01:09:04,702 --> 01:09:07,962
Let's jump into the...

995
01:09:07,962 --> 01:09:09,362
Where is it at?

996
01:09:09,802 --> 01:09:10,962
Where is it at here?

997
01:09:11,862 --> 01:09:13,742
Oh, yeah, let's jump into the YouTube comments.

998
01:09:13,922 --> 01:09:15,822
So this was on the graphene one.

999
01:09:16,762 --> 01:09:19,582
It says, you own graphene, not going mainstream.

1000
01:09:19,782 --> 01:09:20,702
It's privacy OS.

1001
01:09:21,002 --> 01:09:22,062
I don't understand that comment.

1002
01:09:23,822 --> 01:09:28,762
Vake did say, stay on Coruscant about your Darth Plagueis post.

1003
01:09:28,762 --> 01:09:35,262
not your post but um you know i'm trying to say croissant's like the main empire

1004
01:09:35,262 --> 01:09:42,942
planet is that the one that um princess leia got demolished on like that's not her planet right

1005
01:09:42,942 --> 01:09:48,182
i mean at this point vaik is like a star wars expert oh yeah that was his post wasn't that his

1006
01:09:48,182 --> 01:09:51,722
post yeah vaik was the one who reviewed oh yeah that's right you were the one that was talking

1007
01:09:51,722 --> 01:09:58,822
about it i forget yeah i'm not i'm i'm so bad with this kind of the nouns and stuff in media

1008
01:09:58,822 --> 01:10:05,222
i'll i'm i do not but i know coruscant sounds like one of the main i feel like that was the

1009
01:10:05,222 --> 01:10:11,962
one from returns where the empire is like that was the one where they left um what's his name on

1010
01:10:11,962 --> 01:10:20,022
um han solo was on coruscant i could be wrong i'm sure fake will fix this next week i thought it's

1011
01:10:20,022 --> 01:10:24,182
yeah i don't know i actually and then the other one was at my favorite post last week was the cats

1012
01:10:24,182 --> 01:10:30,982
one dude that's so funny um apparently this person says just flexibility i didn't know that

1013
01:10:32,182 --> 01:10:38,822
i learn something new every week cats are flexible turns out or you know turns out it's not just

1014
01:10:38,822 --> 01:10:46,742
i thought they were like you know they're born with it just like you know like lady gaga yeah

1015
01:10:46,742 --> 01:10:48,122
Maybe they are just born with it.

1016
01:10:49,342 --> 01:10:50,822
And then blockchain book said

1017
01:10:50,822 --> 01:10:52,922
Zamp. Somebody else said

1018
01:10:52,922 --> 01:10:54,502
stay in your lane and great Ruby.

1019
01:10:55,682 --> 01:10:56,982
There you go. That's all the comments

1020
01:10:56,982 --> 01:10:59,042
this week. Man, I'm just out of

1021
01:10:59,042 --> 01:10:59,382
energy.

1022
01:11:00,962 --> 01:11:03,022
It's been a busy

1023
01:11:03,022 --> 01:11:05,042
week, man. I know. I've been back and forth.

1024
01:11:05,642 --> 01:11:07,082
It's been a good week, but it's just been

1025
01:11:07,082 --> 01:11:09,022
super busy.

1026
01:11:09,442 --> 01:11:10,442
Yeah, you were here early.

1027
01:11:10,962 --> 01:11:12,922
I gotta be here early tomorrow again.

1028
01:11:13,482 --> 01:11:15,382
You're on your second Mega Red Bull.

1029
01:11:15,722 --> 01:11:16,382
Mega Bull!

1030
01:11:16,742 --> 01:11:24,222
i'm a mega bull um that's pretty much everything uh keon what are you doing this week or this

1031
01:11:24,222 --> 01:11:27,722
weekend i should this weekend i don't know what i'm doing i don't think there's a there's supposed

1032
01:11:27,722 --> 01:11:32,262
to be a protest downtown i saw that yeah uh i don't know it's kind of stupid i don't know what

1033
01:11:32,262 --> 01:11:39,102
they're protesting do you know it's never important never it's not important it's never important

1034
01:11:39,102 --> 01:11:45,362
yeah so that's going on so i'm i'll probably walk through that no it's this way and then

1035
01:11:45,362 --> 01:11:47,582
tomorrow it's supposed to be out there by 2nd

1036
01:11:47,582 --> 01:11:49,462
street. Okay, so maybe I won't.

1037
01:11:49,482 --> 01:11:50,502
And then Sunday, like,

1038
01:11:51,582 --> 01:11:53,542
you shouldn't be getting mad on Sunday anyway, but

1039
01:11:53,542 --> 01:11:55,262
there's going to be people out there on Sunday.

1040
01:11:55,662 --> 01:11:57,342
So, it's a whole thing, man.

1041
01:11:57,382 --> 01:11:58,862
The world is collapsing on itself, Keon.

1042
01:12:00,082 --> 01:12:01,082
This is what happens.

1043
01:12:01,242 --> 01:12:02,362
This is what happens when,

1044
01:12:02,362 --> 01:12:04,642
you know,

1045
01:12:05,182 --> 01:12:08,362
it's just a weird time.

1046
01:12:09,322 --> 01:12:10,042
But I think it's

1047
01:12:10,042 --> 01:12:10,942
been great.

1048
01:12:10,942 --> 01:12:13,922
I don't know.

1049
01:12:14,042 --> 01:12:16,862
It's been a good week for me, but maybe not for everybody.

1050
01:12:17,902 --> 01:12:18,162
Yeah.

1051
01:12:18,502 --> 01:12:20,982
Most weeks for me are bad, so this is a turnaround.

1052
01:12:21,662 --> 01:12:21,982
Oh, yeah.

1053
01:12:22,082 --> 01:12:23,942
It does sound like you've had a pretty good week.

1054
01:12:24,622 --> 01:12:26,242
I've been, yeah.

1055
01:12:26,642 --> 01:12:29,442
You've got a star every day this week so far.

1056
01:12:29,582 --> 01:12:30,142
It looks like.

1057
01:12:30,382 --> 01:12:30,922
It's hanging up right there.

1058
01:12:31,122 --> 01:12:31,742
Just kidding.

1059
01:12:32,062 --> 01:12:32,422
What did you say?

1060
01:12:32,562 --> 01:12:33,662
I said it's hanging up right there.

1061
01:12:34,382 --> 01:12:34,702
Oh.

1062
01:12:35,262 --> 01:12:35,582
Yeah.

1063
01:12:35,582 --> 01:12:36,642
What are you doing this weekend?

1064
01:12:36,642 --> 01:12:43,882
i think uh i think i'm gonna go hang out with my friends um probably tomorrow probably tomorrow

1065
01:12:43,882 --> 01:12:48,822
evening you have friends i have friends normie normie friends we're all friends wow what do you

1066
01:12:48,822 --> 01:12:54,022
guys do you guys talk about i haven't seen him in a while and i think um one of the guys i know he

1067
01:12:54,022 --> 01:12:57,642
finally got a job because he had lost his job i think i talked about on the show like last year

1068
01:12:57,642 --> 01:13:01,502
around september yeah or the last time i hung out with him and then he finally got a job so

1069
01:13:01,502 --> 01:13:06,902
celebrating him getting a job kind of yeah because you know how hard it is out there

1070
01:13:06,902 --> 01:13:11,782
or maybe you don't the stangers at home probably do it's hard out there yeah he's taking all your

1071
01:13:11,782 --> 01:13:17,822
jobs the robots are oh it was because he's in it or i don't know what it i don't know what his new

1072
01:13:17,822 --> 01:13:21,922
title is going to be but it's going to be interesting can't wait to find out okay well

1073
01:13:21,922 --> 01:13:25,962
yeah it's always good to hang out with them because i get a sense of like what is going on

1074
01:13:25,962 --> 01:13:32,182
in the world outside of my little bubble yeah it is weird it is it is fun to check in with people

1075
01:13:32,182 --> 01:13:42,222
who aren't you know i guess yeah in our weird little enclave yeah so that should be fun car

1076
01:13:42,222 --> 01:13:47,762
what are you gonna do this weekend kiona i don't think i'm gonna do i don't think i'm gonna do much

1077
01:13:47,762 --> 01:13:54,502
of anything i've been uh i've been doing a lot of admin so that feels good what about your rice

1078
01:13:54,502 --> 01:13:55,442
Are you still cooking rice?

1079
01:13:55,882 --> 01:14:01,022
I did cook rice, and it does turn out like you would want it to.

1080
01:14:01,042 --> 01:14:02,062
Did you try it with sushi?

1081
01:14:02,302 --> 01:14:03,702
Are you doing sushi yet or no?

1082
01:14:03,822 --> 01:14:05,842
Are you still holding off on that?

1083
01:14:06,142 --> 01:14:09,122
I did not try to do sushi with it, but I made my own seasoned vinegar.

1084
01:14:10,402 --> 01:14:12,802
So you're doing like the – like how are you doing?

1085
01:14:12,902 --> 01:14:16,502
Are you doing like making them into little bubbles and then eating them,

1086
01:14:16,542 --> 01:14:17,482
or like how are you doing it?

1087
01:14:17,702 --> 01:14:18,982
No, I was just eating them in a bowl.

1088
01:14:18,982 --> 01:14:27,082
but uh you make the rice and then you add rice vinegar which is a seasoned vinegar which is

1089
01:14:27,082 --> 01:14:31,662
sure they add a little bit of sugar and salt to it yeah and that's basically sushi rice and it

1090
01:14:31,662 --> 01:14:36,622
does taste exactly you just haven't put fish on it i put canned sardines which is not the same

1091
01:14:36,622 --> 01:14:43,422
because the flavor is dude throw some sushi on there man i'm curious yeah i mean that way that

1092
01:14:43,422 --> 01:14:49,162
way um because did i tell you that or yeah you saw it earlier i ate the guy's food i didn't tell

1093
01:14:49,162 --> 01:14:54,542
you it was good oh it was pretty good yeah you had like an egg curry right i never had an egg in a

1094
01:14:54,542 --> 01:15:00,882
curry but we haven't for the stackers that are listening we have a neighbor next door and he

1095
01:15:00,882 --> 01:15:05,542
gave me um his lunch i didn't beat him up for it he just gave it to me it was kind of funny

1096
01:15:05,542 --> 01:15:12,882
he wanted me to try it do you know where he i think he's indian yeah oh okay i thought he might

1097
01:15:12,882 --> 01:15:14,942
be Pakistani. I'm a man of the people,

1098
01:15:15,082 --> 01:15:16,682
Kim. You are, really?

1099
01:15:16,782 --> 01:15:18,882
Yeah, he gave you... Yeah, he was just like, here you go.

1100
01:15:18,922 --> 01:15:20,162
I brought this for you. I was like, wow.

1101
01:15:23,362 --> 01:15:24,602
Well, you're a loyal customer.

1102
01:15:26,062 --> 01:15:26,682
And you're

1103
01:15:26,682 --> 01:15:28,302
a gregarious man.

1104
01:15:29,262 --> 01:15:30,842
But, yeah, you should

1105
01:15:30,842 --> 01:15:31,542
bring some sushi.

1106
01:15:32,642 --> 01:15:33,602
Oh, bring sushi?

1107
01:15:33,602 --> 01:15:36,982
I didn't realize I'm a supplier now.

1108
01:15:37,262 --> 01:15:38,122
I just want to try your

1109
01:15:38,122 --> 01:15:39,062
personal chef.

1110
01:15:40,082 --> 01:15:42,822
Maybe we could do a sushi day or something.

1111
01:15:42,882 --> 01:15:47,122
yeah i could bring the rice and someone else brings everything how do you know how to do how

1112
01:15:47,122 --> 01:15:50,882
do you but don't you i thought you said you couldn't do it from costco the fish no you can

1113
01:15:50,882 --> 01:15:56,922
i said the opposite you can oh yeah you just want to get farmed farm raised fish because throw it on

1114
01:15:56,922 --> 01:16:03,062
top yeah you slice it and you throw it on top yeah maybe we could do a sushi day yeah we do a sushi

1115
01:16:03,062 --> 01:16:09,742
day all right stackers have yourself a great weekend keel zap all right
