1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:18,920 live from plan lab in austin texas this is stacker news live 2 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:28,620 hello ladies and welcome back to another exciting episode of stacker news live my name is carl with 3 00:00:28,620 --> 00:00:36,980 maybe i've had kia happy stacker ween kia stacker ween yeah yeah that's the name of this episode 4 00:00:36,980 --> 00:00:43,220 is it really that's a good name yeah i was gonna call it boo it's like a good bad name but uh 5 00:00:43,220 --> 00:00:49,980 changed at the last minute so uh it looks like you're a uh yeah what are you what are you this 6 00:00:49,980 --> 00:00:53,780 week what do you think i am do you want me to take a guess i already know what you are let's 7 00:00:53,780 --> 00:01:02,200 let's let the stackers sleep give them a second to guess uh yeah i'm a i'm a cockroach 8 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:08,540 you're a cockroach i'm the costume name is called cuddly cockroach i was hoping for like a grosser 9 00:01:08,540 --> 00:01:15,060 cockroach costume but i couldn't find it in time so this one is like a cute it's supposed to be 10 00:01:15,060 --> 00:01:19,740 like this so people can see what you look like oh there you go with my brown yeah 11 00:01:19,740 --> 00:01:29,460 my whole brown body i have like these little legs here it's amazing they're not you know they're all 12 00:01:29,460 --> 00:01:33,820 but it's all still kind of too cute is it is it kind of what people say they're like you know 13 00:01:33,820 --> 00:01:39,340 you're a cockroach your cockroach that doesn't die you know people say that about people say 14 00:01:39,340 --> 00:01:45,840 that about bitcoin companies i didn't really mean anything by being a cockroach okay i just thought 15 00:01:45,840 --> 00:01:50,700 it would be i was just like looking for i wanted to be a an insect this year and i was trying to 16 00:01:50,700 --> 00:01:54,100 figure out which one to be and i saw a cockroach and i thought that'd be fun because they're like 17 00:01:54,100 --> 00:01:59,380 kind of gross yeah for sure and it's kind of fun i think it's a really cool costume i think this 18 00:01:59,380 --> 00:02:04,800 might be your best one yet yeah i think i had all the one better than the tinky winky one that you 19 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:10,500 had a few years ago i like the pilgrim quite a bit it was pretty comfortable and it was pretty 20 00:02:10,500 --> 00:02:16,200 it was also like sort of subdued oh the pilgrim one oh yeah i remember that one 21 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:22,520 i like the pilgrim one but uh yeah this is what i'm i'm trying out is being a 22 00:02:22,520 --> 00:02:28,760 cockroach i was thinking about getting like a sombrero and some uh macarinas 23 00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:37,300 yeah being a la cucaracha la cucaracha la cucaracha la cucaracha something something 24 00:02:37,300 --> 00:02:45,720 something something yeah that's good yeah i'm one of the uh i'm one of the the ramones okay which 25 00:02:45,720 --> 00:02:50,220 one i was supposed to be a 70s disco guy but my bell bottoms didn't come in and my gold chain 26 00:02:50,220 --> 00:02:55,720 didn't come in so i had a pivot but i was going to be a 70s guy so the ramones guy he wears a wig 27 00:02:55,720 --> 00:03:01,500 like that and a leather jacket yeah somebody said i look like uh ron jeremy though but oh i don't 28 00:03:01,500 --> 00:03:06,960 know it's not somebody in the lab said that earlier wand jeremy yeah somebody said wand jeremy 29 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:14,100 i was like oh that's kind of rude but i'll take it but uh anyway if you've never seen this crazy 30 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:20,820 show before it's called uh stacker news live we cover the top five whoa no not anymore we're 31 00:03:20,820 --> 00:03:26,340 changing it up because uh darth coin said our show sucks so we're covering the top five top three 32 00:03:26,340 --> 00:03:31,400 stories now every week we're shrinking it down what do you think about it what do you think 33 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:36,740 about the changes keon um i'm interested i like change i like trying things out we'll see how it 34 00:03:36,740 --> 00:03:41,640 goes top three stories now stackers you got to be better than where you were no more five stories 35 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:48,640 we're down to top three top three stories every week uh front page of bitcoin and uh yeah we're 36 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:52,720 gonna cover them uh if you've never seen this podcast check it out it's on youtube mobile makes 37 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:57,360 a bunch of clips uh the peter teal one's kind of taken off a lot of people are hating that one 38 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:01,940 oh yeah we'll talk about it later and then the graphing one's really taken off 39 00:04:01,940 --> 00:04:08,000 i met with mumble this week so we're going to try some interesting stuff um and uh 40 00:04:08,000 --> 00:04:15,200 i've been posting some some stuff on here uh for the for the for the love of the game is uh 41 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:22,240 is uh it might be a sticker coming to a club lab near you oh yeah look at that doesn't that look 42 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:28,700 cool that is cool dude for the love of the game man look at that i really want that on my laptop 43 00:04:28,700 --> 00:04:34,700 maybe next year you should be that you should be the dog yeah i can be the star wars dog 44 00:04:34,700 --> 00:04:39,680 i think you just wear you just wear a shirt that says for the love of the game 45 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:47,300 yeah i have no i still have no idea why the dog is why the dog in star wars is wearing disneyland 46 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:52,060 like that's where i don't get about this whole stupid thing doesn't like it doesn't make any 47 00:04:52,060 --> 00:04:58,000 sense like the whole thing doesn't make any sense disney owns star wars now don't they oh is that 48 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:03,420 what it's trying to do but like is this ai generated or no i think this is probably so 49 00:05:03,420 --> 00:05:08,920 this is a dog in disneyland right now that you can go see that's where a get up yeah a man dressed 50 00:05:08,920 --> 00:05:15,240 in a dog costume that's funny anyway for the love of the game check it out maybe a sticker we'll 51 00:05:15,240 --> 00:05:21,180 printouts here soon once pleb poet gets the pleb print shop set up um kian other than that how was 52 00:05:21,180 --> 00:05:25,880 your week did you have a good week i had a pretty good week i think i what happened i don't think 53 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:30,580 anything really happened just normal stuff happened uh it was someone we know it was their 54 00:05:30,580 --> 00:05:33,780 birthday i don't know if that's like public i don't think they shared i don't think it's public 55 00:05:33,780 --> 00:05:38,320 yeah but they had a birthday and so a lot of people went to that i went to that birthday 56 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:44,700 again i'm i'm doing a birthday tour car anyone maybe we both are doing a birthday tour anyone 57 00:05:44,700 --> 00:05:48,700 has a birthday i mean you didn't go to jana's birthday as we discussed in that podcast i did 58 00:05:48,700 --> 00:05:53,420 i did go to that birthday you walked by dude i was in that birthday i was in that birthday 59 00:05:53,420 --> 00:05:59,640 i went to all i've been going to all the birthdays this month so uh yeah i've been all the birthdays 60 00:05:59,640 --> 00:06:05,960 this month all right yeah anyway i went to the i went out again this is my i broke my streak of not 61 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,680 never going out i went out i've gone out twice this month so far and yeah we'll see where 62 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:18,180 where time takes me i feel like october has just been like a crazy month of parties i don't know 63 00:06:18,180 --> 00:06:22,620 it's weird october's weird man i feel like every week i've been doing things every 64 00:06:22,620 --> 00:06:27,720 it's wild bro party i don't there's not really the parties aren't that hard though 65 00:06:27,720 --> 00:06:32,580 i don't know i haven't been to a party in a long i haven't really partied really ever but 66 00:06:32,580 --> 00:06:38,460 i remember when i was a kid i don't know i feel like we i feel like the parties are not 67 00:06:38,460 --> 00:06:44,340 these are like adult parties where people are like talking and not like hitting each other and stuff 68 00:06:44,340 --> 00:06:49,200 that's my oh what are you saying like you want to get hit or something i don't know of course not 69 00:06:49,200 --> 00:06:53,880 but i'm saying i mean you are a cockroach you might get stepped on i don't know is it a part 70 00:06:53,880 --> 00:07:00,020 is it a party or is it just old people drinking together is kind of uh no it's just kind of like 71 00:07:00,020 --> 00:07:05,940 a shinding you know it's just like a laid-back get together yeah i guess it's just like uh it's 72 00:07:05,940 --> 00:07:10,620 just like a friend's party dude that's how i look at him like like i don't know maybe just because 73 00:07:10,620 --> 00:07:15,860 i'm from austin and it's always been like this i see you guys have chill parties yeah and then 74 00:07:15,860 --> 00:07:20,120 like dude november december is gonna come there's gonna be even more in like engagements and stuff 75 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:25,260 and parties it's just a it's just a chance to hang out with friends and family and like no that's all 76 00:07:25,260 --> 00:07:29,260 chill yeah like it's not supposed to be about business when you do it when you go to these 77 00:07:29,260 --> 00:07:33,360 things that's why it's always kind of weird for me whenever i'm like at these like friends stuff 78 00:07:33,360 --> 00:07:37,980 or like these like you know these new year's eve or these thanksgiving or like these christmas 79 00:07:37,980 --> 00:07:43,000 things and then people are like can we talk business i'm like no it's like this is not the 80 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:48,500 time to do that like i just want to hang out with my friends and like be free to like you know let's 81 00:07:48,500 --> 00:07:54,120 talk about life like i don't know that's how i feel about it but i'm probably the minority in that 82 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:59,460 no i think that's that's i hear that criticism a lot that like people hate being asked what they 83 00:07:59,460 --> 00:08:04,380 do at parties and stuff no i don't mind that i just hate like when people are like hey can i so 84 00:08:04,380 --> 00:08:10,160 like can we talk business about like and i'm like strategy and i'm like no i'm like i mean we can we 85 00:08:10,160 --> 00:08:16,080 could set something up like when we're not at this you know what i mean i don't want to do that like 86 00:08:16,080 --> 00:08:20,640 at like a friend's birthday party does that make sense that does make sense i think yeah i don't 87 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:25,020 think many people would disagree with you yeah or like at a christmas party or something or like a 88 00:08:25,020 --> 00:08:30,280 you know i don't know maybe i'm the minority in that but if you're like at a that's why i don't 89 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:33,980 go to those conference parties because they're kind of like lame they're just like they're just 90 00:08:33,980 --> 00:08:39,720 there to do like business and stuff like you know i don't know i didn't really talk about business 91 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:44,620 at all when i went tab comp after party at that that's why i didn't go to any of those after 92 00:08:44,620 --> 00:08:49,560 parties because we went to that one we played mini golf i mean mini golf with a yeah with a cool guy 93 00:08:49,560 --> 00:08:54,520 who was like a chief investment officer at a bank or something i feel like that's what we didn't talk 94 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:57,280 about that we just played mini golf i feel like that's what the conference is for like you want 95 00:08:57,280 --> 00:09:02,540 to talk about that stuff that's what the conference during the day is for but i think if you went to 96 00:09:02,540 --> 00:09:06,680 these events and you're just like no i want to know about your life how is your how are your 97 00:09:06,680 --> 00:09:10,960 children doing or something i don't know what you'd ask i think part of the problem is like 98 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:16,020 that's small talk what you're what you're like rejecting is like small talk and small talk has 99 00:09:16,020 --> 00:09:21,180 a role yeah but like i i feel like and i feel like we're going this is where the stackers are 100 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:25,420 getting mad they're like oh they're too negative they're talking too negative no i'm just i'm not 101 00:09:25,420 --> 00:09:29,240 talking too negative i'm trying to bring car up i'm trying to no i am up i'm just saying that like 102 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:33,940 i'm a cockroach i feel like i feel like conferences like they should be used for that what you're 103 00:09:33,940 --> 00:09:39,840 talking about all the networking stuff during the time of the conference but like um but like when 104 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:46,420 you're having like friends parties or like you know like things that aren't work related you know 105 00:09:46,420 --> 00:09:49,500 those should just be for the first friendships and stuff. 106 00:09:49,800 --> 00:09:51,420 Does that make sense or is that dumb? 107 00:09:51,940 --> 00:09:52,160 No, 108 00:09:52,180 --> 00:09:53,240 we've already established it. 109 00:09:53,340 --> 00:09:53,600 Okay. 110 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:55,020 That's all I'm trying to get across. 111 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:56,360 Makes sense. 112 00:09:56,420 --> 00:09:57,280 I just think in practice, 113 00:09:57,380 --> 00:09:57,680 it's hard. 114 00:09:57,780 --> 00:09:58,300 Stay in your lane, 115 00:09:58,420 --> 00:09:58,640 Coop. 116 00:09:58,860 --> 00:10:00,120 Stay in your cockroach lane. 117 00:10:00,560 --> 00:10:00,920 I know. 118 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:01,180 Well, 119 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,460 my lane is kind of small. 120 00:10:02,660 --> 00:10:04,000 I feel confined to it. 121 00:10:04,040 --> 00:10:05,920 Stay in your little cockroach lane. 122 00:10:06,060 --> 00:10:07,260 I don't even know if we have lanes. 123 00:10:07,460 --> 00:10:08,360 We just kind of. 124 00:10:08,360 --> 00:10:09,880 What do you think they're going to do with these, 125 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:11,620 with these screenshots are taken right now? 126 00:10:12,240 --> 00:10:13,580 Should we give them a good screenshot? 127 00:10:14,280 --> 00:10:14,580 Hang on. 128 00:10:14,640 --> 00:10:14,880 Let me, 129 00:10:14,940 --> 00:10:16,060 let me see if I can switch this. 130 00:10:16,420 --> 00:10:16,940 All right. 131 00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:19,060 Take your screenshots now. 132 00:10:22,060 --> 00:10:22,620 All right. 133 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,640 Let me do some poses. 134 00:10:24,540 --> 00:10:25,340 Maybe we should do some poses. 135 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:28,980 Do one of these. 136 00:10:29,140 --> 00:10:29,700 Do one of those. 137 00:10:30,180 --> 00:10:30,460 All right. 138 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:30,900 There you go. 139 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:31,780 You get all your screenshots. 140 00:10:32,060 --> 00:10:32,640 I don't do poses. 141 00:10:32,760 --> 00:10:33,380 I'm not a model. 142 00:10:33,860 --> 00:10:34,240 All right. 143 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:35,980 Anyway, let's jump into it. 144 00:10:35,980 --> 00:10:42,220 Number three tap story is review of Jimmy Song versus Peter Todd filters debate. 145 00:10:42,840 --> 00:10:44,020 Plan B, Lugiano. 146 00:10:44,600 --> 00:10:45,920 This is from Simple Stacker. 147 00:10:46,420 --> 00:10:47,420 He's an OG snacker. 148 00:10:47,520 --> 00:10:48,580 He's been around for a long time. 149 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:51,200 October 30th, Bitcoin territory. 150 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:54,700 58 comments, 4,152 sats. 151 00:10:55,060 --> 00:10:55,840 Key on. 152 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,520 What is this, Mr. Cockroach? 153 00:11:01,080 --> 00:11:02,700 Thank you, Juan Jeremy. 154 00:11:07,040 --> 00:11:09,220 It's like a weird, it's like an invisible compliment. 155 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:10,880 I don't know. 156 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:12,680 It's not, that is not a compliment. 157 00:11:12,980 --> 00:11:15,260 Oh, not for somebody like me who's religious. 158 00:11:15,260 --> 00:11:19,840 that is not a compliment i don't know no but it's saying you have you're endowed by your creator 159 00:11:19,840 --> 00:11:24,300 with no i don't think i don't think that's a large unit you know what i mean yeah it's not a compliment 160 00:11:24,300 --> 00:11:30,720 all right keep going um it's about jimmy song peter todd let's talk about this uh yeah so uh 161 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:36,000 it sounds like the opera turn debate and the filters related filters debate the knots versus 162 00:11:36,000 --> 00:11:41,140 core debate followed all the bitcoiners all the way to switzerland to logano yeah that was a big 163 00:11:41,140 --> 00:11:45,740 conference dude was it yeah i read somewhere they said it was like the first year was a thousand 164 00:11:45,740 --> 00:11:50,180 second year was like two thousand and then this year was like four thousand i kind of regret not 165 00:11:50,180 --> 00:11:55,420 going but we had so much stuff going on in austin i don't regret not going i i think next year i'm 166 00:11:55,420 --> 00:12:01,840 for sure kind of i want to go to that is it about bitcoin or do they do no it feels like it's bigger 167 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:06,180 than the crypto conference over here it felt bigger no but it's more important does the 168 00:12:06,180 --> 00:12:10,720 conference have to do with bitcoin or is it yeah it's like it's something else yeah it's big 169 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:18,640 okay anyways all right um yeah so apparently the opera turn debate followed 170 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:26,540 uh well-known bitcoiners jimmy song and peter todd all the way to logano and they debated it 171 00:12:26,540 --> 00:12:33,000 on stage there and there's a recording simple stacker uh watched the recording and reported 172 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:39,840 back their thoughts on it and tried to summarize the positions most of us i think of anyone who 173 00:12:39,840 --> 00:12:45,120 watches the show is familiar with Jimmy Song's position, which is that filters do work and that 174 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:53,980 we should probably keep them and that it disincentivizes, at the very least, non-monetary 175 00:12:53,980 --> 00:13:00,820 Bitcoin transactions. And that's good. And the consequences of removing them are greater than 176 00:13:00,820 --> 00:13:05,660 keeping them in, even though I think Jimmy would admit that there are some consequences to keeping 177 00:13:05,660 --> 00:13:11,900 them um i think i think it's the sound for mine sorry i realized i was unmuted or muted you were 178 00:13:11,900 --> 00:13:18,700 muted the whole time yeah it's okay it doesn't matter how was it oh you did okay cool keep going 179 00:13:18,700 --> 00:13:24,380 okay well uh so that's jimmy song's position and peter todd's position and peter peter todd 180 00:13:24,380 --> 00:13:31,100 uh maintains the library relay implementation of bitcoin oh play poets here which has very the camera 181 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:40,060 which, as its name suggests, has a very loose relay policy, 182 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:41,520 a very liberal relay policy, 183 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:47,360 and basically allows most consensus-valid transactions 184 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:50,540 to pass along to minors. 185 00:13:50,540 --> 00:13:54,280 So you can understand Peter Todd's position. 186 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,440 He's anti-filter. 187 00:13:56,920 --> 00:14:00,120 Jimmy Song is pro-filter, and they debated it a bit, 188 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,540 and rehashed arguments that most of us have already read and seen online. 189 00:14:05,220 --> 00:14:08,880 And then, yeah, I think the more interesting thing is 190 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:14,360 SimpleStackers take away from this. 191 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,040 Because SimpleStacker has been kind of, I think, 192 00:14:18,100 --> 00:14:21,700 watching this unfold a little bit from Stacker News. 193 00:14:22,300 --> 00:14:24,840 And he said that he thinks both of them have a point. 194 00:14:25,940 --> 00:14:28,760 He agrees with Jimmy that filters do work. 195 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:37,780 But he also agrees with Peter Todd that in some sense it's futile and there are consequences to having the filters that Core removed. 196 00:14:38,780 --> 00:14:53,040 He also, yeah, so he's not representative of what, he's not, because most of what you see on social media, primarily X, is an extreme take from one side to the other. 197 00:14:53,400 --> 00:14:58,700 Because that's what services in the algorithm and draws up controversy and gets lots of sharing and stuff. 198 00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:13,240 And instead, I would guess most Bitcoiners probably fall where SimpleStacker does, where he sees the technical merits of either side and then otherwise the merits of either side. 199 00:15:14,040 --> 00:15:15,120 And it's complicated. 200 00:15:18,360 --> 00:15:23,140 And I think Jimmy Song, I would say, is not even on the extreme side of the debate. 201 00:15:23,140 --> 00:15:26,900 He's more or less just like, let's just keep the offer turn limits where they are. 202 00:15:26,900 --> 00:15:37,120 um let's not mess with let's not fix what isn't broken really um and people should be allowed to 203 00:15:37,120 --> 00:15:45,320 configure this yeah how they want and that's cool what do you think blind guest how do you feel in 204 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:50,300 that cockroach outfit i feel pretty good it's actually pretty comfy it's like my normal hoodie 205 00:15:50,300 --> 00:15:53,540 actually sometimes i forget i'm wearing it are you gonna wear it just every day you think 206 00:15:53,540 --> 00:16:00,220 I might I might I'm considering it right now as we're speaking yeah yeah um I'll just say that 207 00:16:00,220 --> 00:16:05,920 um Peter Todd was in the comments oh is he really uh where is he at where is he at 208 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:15,000 he replied to being unprepared oh no actually he said not actually that was a result of a lot of 209 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:20,780 prep the thing to remember here is I was scheduled to go second um 210 00:16:20,780 --> 00:16:30,360 okay there you go well he has a is a good defense of his approach yeah it sounded like 211 00:16:30,360 --> 00:16:34,020 it's not i haven't watched a video for the stackers i hope i plan to watch it this weekend 212 00:16:34,020 --> 00:16:40,120 i've just been um working on some other stuff teasing your hair yeah dude i was gonna ask you 213 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,480 is when you have hair is it do you become self-conscious or something i feel like my hair 214 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:48,720 my hair is always up i never wear it down but you're probably asking weird yeah i was asking 215 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:55,000 jenna yeah hair makes you self-conscious yeah i feel like it's like a thing does it feel bad 216 00:16:55,000 --> 00:17:00,740 it feels weird like one out of ten rate your wig experience i don't like it i don't like heavy long 217 00:17:00,740 --> 00:17:09,560 hair anyways uh not itchy it just feels like uh i feel like a prima donna oh but that's cool that's 218 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:14,900 what you want the point is you want to occupy your costume you want to be the person this is like i 219 00:17:14,900 --> 00:17:16,180 I don't know who this person is. 220 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:21,380 Anyways, we're back on the story, but I haven't watched it, 221 00:17:21,400 --> 00:17:22,860 so I don't really have any comments on this. 222 00:17:23,540 --> 00:17:25,180 I came unprepared just like Peter Todd. 223 00:17:26,120 --> 00:17:27,940 But Peter Todd was prepared, Carr. 224 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:29,340 Well, I was prepared, too. 225 00:17:29,380 --> 00:17:30,360 I just came unprepared. 226 00:17:31,340 --> 00:17:32,280 That's my excuse. 227 00:17:32,940 --> 00:17:33,660 Jana, what about you? 228 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:35,740 Are you prepared or unprepared like Peter Todd? 229 00:17:36,380 --> 00:17:37,380 Or I mean prepared. 230 00:17:37,380 --> 00:17:40,720 I probably pull up more unprepared than prepared, 231 00:17:40,980 --> 00:17:42,680 but it depends on what it is. 232 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:50,480 like if i'm pulling up to the dmv i'm prepared there you go okay how do you prepare to the dmv 233 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:56,620 gotta get all your desperate pieces of paper together papers yeah do you wear your glasses 234 00:17:56,620 --> 00:18:01,400 i think it's yeah i think it's one of those things where like he was prepared because he showed up 235 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:06,360 all right he knew it was at the right time and stuff but he just wasn't prepared right like it's 236 00:18:06,360 --> 00:18:10,340 kind of like me like i'm here i'm ready but i'm not really prepared because i didn't read through 237 00:18:10,340 --> 00:18:16,560 it right or watch it so it's like i am prepared but i'm not prepared maybe that's something else 238 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:22,880 too but yeah i think we call that not prepared no but i am prepared i am here i'm present 239 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:29,240 i have everything set up my hair's almost there right yeah but but i didn't read through everything 240 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:34,340 so i'm some would say you're you are prepared but you're not prepared and then and jimmy's probably 241 00:18:34,340 --> 00:18:38,980 saying this is just me not watching the video but i would imagine jimmy's saying like you're not 242 00:18:38,980 --> 00:18:39,600 prepared though. 243 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:42,920 But that's not even really what the 244 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,640 post was about. 245 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,700 But it is what he knows about. 246 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:50,000 Which is himself. 247 00:18:50,620 --> 00:18:52,540 He's prepared to talk about 248 00:18:52,540 --> 00:18:54,840 Peter Todd not being prepared. 249 00:18:57,700 --> 00:18:59,200 Are you guys having fun yet? 250 00:18:59,340 --> 00:18:59,780 I'm trying. 251 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:03,020 Is it still a light show for you? 252 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,700 Anyways. Yeah, check it out. 253 00:19:06,700 --> 00:19:07,760 I mean, looks good. 254 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:15,580 looks like a fun thing i mean yeah any other comments on this cockroach key oh really i'm 255 00:19:15,580 --> 00:19:22,020 really tired of this debate why whoa hey hey hey we need to we need to keep the show light man 256 00:19:22,020 --> 00:19:26,960 we're losing people here because they're like you guys are too negative we're too negative 257 00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:32,800 let them go let them go whoa whoa whoa that's actually good advice and that's kind of not 258 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:39,160 good way of representing what was said so the point of the podcast is for you and i to record 259 00:19:39,160 --> 00:19:45,440 it without any concern about wow coming hard right at you darth right at you because this 260 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,900 talk road here is coming right at you hard i'm only concerned to the extent that i want to be 261 00:19:48,900 --> 00:19:53,660 concerned and beyond that it's up to you know two fingers up it's on the viewers thumbs up 262 00:19:53,660 --> 00:20:00,500 even like even a simple stacker says in this post it was simple stacker i can't see yeah it's 263 00:20:00,500 --> 00:20:05,420 um even he said that like they're kind of saying the same things that we've heard and it's kind of 264 00:20:05,420 --> 00:20:12,860 tiring at this point so kian's point is fair and valid stamp it i'm valid i've been stamped i think 265 00:20:12,860 --> 00:20:17,320 at this point i mean there's i don't know if the is the next post about this too no it's not it 266 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:21,260 might be but you're kind of seeing already kind of this like this is just me knowing kind of what's 267 00:20:21,260 --> 00:20:26,400 going on behind the scenes so i'm sharing a little extra but you're already kind of seeing um and i'm 268 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,100 not saying this is what's going on here with this particular post but you're already kind of seeing 269 00:20:31,100 --> 00:20:35,460 the the people in power and influence in the bitcoin space they're already moving their chess 270 00:20:35,460 --> 00:20:46,160 pieces uh in place for a uh for uh for a uh what's the right word choose your words carefully car 271 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:53,800 they're they're putting their chess pieces in place for um for something that will that will uh 272 00:20:53,800 --> 00:21:06,496 give people an alternative for what being offered right now to the ecosystem So there that And so stay tuned 273 00:21:06,496 --> 00:21:07,156 Is that revealing? 274 00:21:07,576 --> 00:21:08,876 Stay tuned, stackers. 275 00:21:09,096 --> 00:21:10,636 You're going to have options very soon. 276 00:21:10,976 --> 00:21:12,796 And with options come opportunity. 277 00:21:14,336 --> 00:21:16,536 So I don't know what that meant. 278 00:21:16,536 --> 00:21:17,236 And I'm here. 279 00:21:17,356 --> 00:21:20,256 I'm like in this room and I'm kind of confused by what you said. 280 00:21:20,256 --> 00:21:21,196 Yeah, I got really lost. 281 00:21:21,336 --> 00:21:21,896 Okay, well. 282 00:21:21,896 --> 00:21:26,636 are you saying there's going to be a hard fork or a fork of any kind and there's going to be 283 00:21:26,636 --> 00:21:30,416 i just think i just think you're going to start i think i think what you're seeing already right 284 00:21:30,416 --> 00:21:37,156 now is more and more of these people that didn't have opinion three or four months ago now start 285 00:21:37,156 --> 00:21:43,196 having an opinion and they're gonna be much more louder um and they're gonna start uh putting their 286 00:21:43,196 --> 00:21:49,316 uh let's choose your words carefully where you lost this last they're gonna start yeah 287 00:21:49,316 --> 00:21:55,096 maybe we just i can't be blunt anymore i gotta i gotta be very tactile next story all right we 288 00:21:55,096 --> 00:22:03,076 can just do that let's do that cool wait thanks for saving me um the next top story is turn any 289 00:22:03,076 --> 00:22:09,176 3d printer into the ultimate orange pulling machine this is from jason b 10 hours ago 290 00:22:09,176 --> 00:22:15,836 bitcoin territory only four comments though 11 400k sats so he made out like a bandit 291 00:22:15,836 --> 00:22:22,756 key on what is this crap yeah it's not crap it says crap right there oh it does say right here 292 00:22:22,756 --> 00:22:28,176 says all this crap you can go to the freaking tutorial which is at the bottom but he's explaining 293 00:22:28,176 --> 00:22:34,396 his like the tutorial what led up to the tutorial it's at the very bottom but uh jason b continues 294 00:22:34,396 --> 00:22:42,536 to volunteer in bitcoin akasi in south africa and there at south africa i guess he has turned sort of 295 00:22:42,536 --> 00:22:44,996 to their IT person a little bit 296 00:22:44,996 --> 00:22:47,476 and is helping them 297 00:22:47,476 --> 00:22:50,636 because it seems like he has a diverse set of skills 298 00:22:50,636 --> 00:22:54,656 and he's helped them dust off their 3D printer 299 00:22:54,656 --> 00:22:56,796 and is training them on how to use the 3D printer 300 00:22:56,796 --> 00:22:57,976 that they had sitting around. 301 00:22:57,996 --> 00:22:58,196 Oh, cool. 302 00:22:58,476 --> 00:23:00,276 And he has... 303 00:23:00,276 --> 00:23:01,656 Well, why did he call that crap then? 304 00:23:03,016 --> 00:23:05,276 I think he was just being self-deprecating. 305 00:23:05,436 --> 00:23:06,436 Don't be self-deprecating. 306 00:23:06,456 --> 00:23:07,356 This is what humility looks like. 307 00:23:07,416 --> 00:23:09,776 I know it's pretty unfamiliar to a lot of people in Bitcoin, 308 00:23:09,776 --> 00:23:10,776 but this is... 309 00:23:10,776 --> 00:23:12,496 Don't be self-deprecating. 310 00:23:12,536 --> 00:23:17,936 this is what humility gotta puff out your chest in bitcoin yeah that's that's what that's what 311 00:23:17,936 --> 00:23:24,516 makes it hard to understand self-deprecating humility um oh that's cool so it pretty he 312 00:23:24,516 --> 00:23:32,196 prints out the is that a uh a lightning address um i think it could be it also could be a bip 21 313 00:23:32,196 --> 00:23:37,716 uh on chain address i haven't scanned it yet but how about i scan it right now scan it scan it 314 00:23:37,716 --> 00:23:38,396 Let's see. 315 00:23:39,176 --> 00:23:43,696 Anyway, so Jason B is fond of orange billing servers 316 00:23:43,696 --> 00:23:46,776 and I guess various retail employees 317 00:23:46,776 --> 00:23:49,656 by tipping Bitcoin to them. 318 00:23:51,716 --> 00:23:52,276 Oh, interesting. 319 00:23:56,276 --> 00:23:57,576 It's a lightning address. 320 00:23:57,736 --> 00:23:58,516 Here, try this one. 321 00:23:58,576 --> 00:23:59,216 What about this one? 322 00:24:00,216 --> 00:24:01,036 What is this one right here? 323 00:24:01,036 --> 00:24:10,456 So Jason B is fond of tipping people in Bitcoin as a way of orange pilling them. 324 00:24:10,536 --> 00:24:18,316 He says his success rate even in Ohio is 10% orange pilling via tipping. 325 00:24:18,316 --> 00:24:25,316 But he said in South Africa, in Bitcoin, a costly adjacent area, he said it's 50%. 326 00:24:25,316 --> 00:24:28,496 And he is trying to improve that. 327 00:24:28,596 --> 00:24:37,456 And the way he is going to improve that, I guess, is by giving these basically keychains or these 3D printed pack. 328 00:24:38,896 --> 00:24:39,936 What would you call it? 329 00:24:40,856 --> 00:24:41,716 I don't know what you call it. 330 00:24:41,936 --> 00:24:49,416 The 3D printed items to people that have these QRs on them and they can use that to receive tips or payments. 331 00:24:49,416 --> 00:25:02,296 He said even when he goes to pay in a lot of the stores that support paying with Bitcoin there, it's usually tied to a wallet that the employee working at the store does not have access to. 332 00:25:02,476 --> 00:25:05,196 And so if the owner isn't there, they can't really pay in Bitcoin. 333 00:25:05,696 --> 00:25:06,456 I love this, man. 334 00:25:06,956 --> 00:25:08,096 This is fantastic. 335 00:25:08,776 --> 00:25:09,416 I love it. 336 00:25:10,116 --> 00:25:13,576 He gives a walkthrough if you have a 3D printer of any kind, more or less you can. 337 00:25:14,976 --> 00:25:15,696 Keep it going. 338 00:25:15,816 --> 00:25:16,796 Keep it going, Jason B. 339 00:25:17,176 --> 00:25:18,176 This is how you do it, man. 340 00:25:18,176 --> 00:25:20,216 Don't let Tether come in there 341 00:25:20,216 --> 00:25:22,116 And just drop a fiat 342 00:25:22,116 --> 00:25:23,436 Do it your way 343 00:25:23,436 --> 00:25:24,876 Do it with lightning 344 00:25:24,876 --> 00:25:25,956 Do it with Bitcoin 345 00:25:25,956 --> 00:25:27,736 Make it happen for your own community 346 00:25:27,736 --> 00:25:28,516 That's what I say 347 00:25:28,516 --> 00:25:29,816 Love to see this 348 00:25:29,816 --> 00:25:31,096 Let me know if 349 00:25:31,096 --> 00:25:31,876 Carr can help 350 00:25:31,876 --> 00:25:34,516 Love to see this 351 00:25:34,516 --> 00:25:35,576 This is amazing dude 352 00:25:35,576 --> 00:25:36,716 This is what I'm telling you man 353 00:25:36,716 --> 00:25:37,256 Bottom up 354 00:25:37,256 --> 00:25:39,336 Bottom up 355 00:25:39,336 --> 00:25:40,656 Alright 356 00:25:40,656 --> 00:25:41,256 Yeah 357 00:25:41,256 --> 00:25:43,116 Don't wait for him 358 00:25:43,116 --> 00:25:43,776 Just do it 359 00:25:43,776 --> 00:25:45,776 Just do it 360 00:25:45,776 --> 00:25:48,116 Popo you got anything for this? 361 00:25:48,176 --> 00:25:52,036 Can you even see what we're talking about? 362 00:25:52,316 --> 00:25:54,956 Well, I actually put the story in the zine, 363 00:25:55,076 --> 00:25:58,636 so I've had my eyeballs all over it. 364 00:25:58,656 --> 00:26:00,516 Did you make the zine wearing those glasses now? 365 00:26:00,756 --> 00:26:01,076 No. 366 00:26:02,496 --> 00:26:04,516 She's basically saying she's already read this. 367 00:26:04,716 --> 00:26:07,256 But I do love the idea, 368 00:26:07,436 --> 00:26:10,016 and I love the 3D printed and the utility behind it. 369 00:26:10,496 --> 00:26:12,076 But it's also... 370 00:26:12,076 --> 00:26:15,076 I don't know what the lithograph is necessarily, 371 00:26:15,836 --> 00:26:16,576 but just for fun. 372 00:26:17,036 --> 00:26:17,656 But it looks cool. 373 00:26:18,176 --> 00:26:22,296 um it's really cool and yeah i want to hear more about it it's awesome 374 00:26:22,296 --> 00:26:27,836 yeah he should if he has access to like a video camera i would love to see him do like a 375 00:26:27,836 --> 00:26:30,276 do a vlog yeah do like a vlog 376 00:26:30,276 --> 00:26:38,796 awesome stuff the next or the number one top story of the week is there is no 377 00:26:38,796 --> 00:26:44,016 need for bit 444 key on this is from the r 378 00:26:44,016 --> 00:26:50,076 october 29th bitcoin territory 19 commas 330 80 88 sets 379 00:26:50,076 --> 00:27:01,796 what is this um yeah this is uh this continues to be about the kind of like op return core versus 380 00:27:01,796 --> 00:27:06,796 knots thing and filters it has escalated to the point where the knots some people on the 381 00:27:06,796 --> 00:27:17,536 outside, I think with Luke Dash Jr.'s approval, have proposed a BIP, a soft fork for restricting 382 00:27:17,536 --> 00:27:28,756 arbitrary data usage, or in some cases, data usage more generally from being included in 383 00:27:28,756 --> 00:27:29,076 blocks. 384 00:27:29,076 --> 00:27:36,056 So changing Bitcoin's consensus rules to do what filters, some would argue, don't do very 385 00:27:36,056 --> 00:27:36,376 well. 386 00:27:36,796 --> 00:27:41,816 And, yeah, and that this is continues to be an escalation of that. 387 00:27:41,916 --> 00:27:48,236 And there's been a lot of discussion about this this week on a lot of it took place on GitHub, some of it on the mailing list. 388 00:27:50,196 --> 00:27:52,396 Yeah, it's most people, most people would agree. 389 00:27:52,516 --> 00:28:02,656 I think even, you know, there's a I think even the majority of the filter supporters would probably not support a fork like this, especially the way it's currently proposed. 390 00:28:02,656 --> 00:28:04,796 There's no there's also no implementation yet. 391 00:28:04,876 --> 00:28:06,496 It is just kind of discussion. 392 00:28:06,796 --> 00:28:12,616 Um, but in, in general, it's, it's attempting, it makes the BIP makes a bunch of claims about 393 00:28:12,616 --> 00:28:17,096 the legality of arbitrary data storage and what will happen to node runners. 394 00:28:17,396 --> 00:28:25,316 And what, uh, Antoine Rillard here is doing is contesting that there is any, any basis 395 00:28:25,316 --> 00:28:31,796 for making those, those legal arguments, those claims in the, in the BIP and, um, and that 396 00:28:31,796 --> 00:28:41,716 we don't need to defend against illegality that doesn't really seem to have laws making 397 00:28:41,716 --> 00:28:49,676 it illegal yet. Most of the argument here is that most of the laws written about data 398 00:28:49,676 --> 00:28:59,136 illegality, especially in decentralized systems, usually the liability falls on the person 399 00:28:59,136 --> 00:29:09,136 who added the data and not the person who is distributed unknowingly and unwillingly 400 00:29:09,716 --> 00:29:11,816 or without the ability to stop it. 401 00:29:12,876 --> 00:29:15,916 And yeah, that's kind of what he's saying here. 402 00:29:16,116 --> 00:29:18,936 It's like node operators will not be held liable for this. 403 00:29:19,016 --> 00:29:20,596 There's no basis to believe they will. 404 00:29:20,776 --> 00:29:22,576 It's all just kind of fear-mongering. 405 00:29:24,616 --> 00:29:25,096 Yep. 406 00:29:25,716 --> 00:29:26,736 Pepo, you got anything on this? 407 00:29:26,736 --> 00:29:33,756 There was a sentence here. I want to read it. So it's from the fourth paragraph down. 408 00:29:34,136 --> 00:29:34,396 Okay. 409 00:29:34,756 --> 00:29:46,916 Moreover, this line of jurisprudence underlights that any interference with one's fundamental right of expression should be laid down under clear and precise rules governing the scope of the interference. 410 00:29:46,916 --> 00:29:50,416 and I just wanted to go over 411 00:29:50,416 --> 00:29:52,716 and look at what under light 412 00:29:52,716 --> 00:29:55,936 could mean because that was new for me to see 413 00:29:55,936 --> 00:29:59,096 and under light primarily refers to 414 00:29:59,096 --> 00:30:00,696 illumination from underneath 415 00:30:00,696 --> 00:30:03,956 a technique used in artistic context 416 00:30:03,956 --> 00:30:07,576 so I feel that was the wrong word to use there 417 00:30:07,576 --> 00:30:10,876 but I'm not going to be worried about it 418 00:30:10,876 --> 00:30:13,796 they're a little more artistic 419 00:30:13,796 --> 00:30:15,756 than we are 420 00:30:15,756 --> 00:30:22,456 okay well this continent so like was are you saying like a translation thing i think it's 421 00:30:22,456 --> 00:30:26,916 probably like yeah i think he's he speaks good english but he's you know he speaks it with a 422 00:30:26,916 --> 00:30:30,636 pretty heavy french accent i would get you know well it made me curious because it sounded like 423 00:30:30,636 --> 00:30:34,076 a cool word and it's like if that's a cool word i think we could probably make it a thing if we 424 00:30:34,076 --> 00:30:37,416 really want to but probably the word should have been highlight you probably need some underlight 425 00:30:37,416 --> 00:30:44,416 to see things with those uh you're so right um yeah i don't really got any i don't really got any 426 00:30:44,416 --> 00:30:46,876 thoughts on this? I feel like 427 00:30:46,876 --> 00:30:49,236 it's still 428 00:30:49,236 --> 00:30:50,076 all being kind of 429 00:30:50,076 --> 00:30:53,356 talked about in the space. 430 00:30:54,736 --> 00:30:55,536 Has anybody 431 00:30:55,536 --> 00:30:56,556 brought up the whole 432 00:30:56,556 --> 00:30:59,356 thing that the... Yeah, Chespi's 433 00:30:59,356 --> 00:31:01,396 still moving. Has anybody talked about Battleships 434 00:31:01,396 --> 00:31:03,276 still coordinating? Has anybody 435 00:31:03,276 --> 00:31:05,436 talked about the thing that Dong 436 00:31:05,436 --> 00:31:07,476 has created? Remember... 437 00:31:07,476 --> 00:31:08,636 Dong? Yeah. 438 00:31:09,056 --> 00:31:11,356 As in Juan... 439 00:31:11,356 --> 00:31:13,636 What is your name? Juan Jeremy's 440 00:31:13,636 --> 00:31:20,756 dong oh no uh the the thing that he really i posted on stacker news like the person that he 441 00:31:20,756 --> 00:31:27,796 looks like uh let me see here we go uh is this carl dong yeah yeah there was a thing that he 442 00:31:27,796 --> 00:31:41,736 posted or that i posted um this week where's my post yet i just lost my spot let me go back here 443 00:31:41,736 --> 00:31:43,916 Don Juan. 444 00:31:46,836 --> 00:31:48,576 Must fill the space. 445 00:31:49,536 --> 00:31:50,496 Where is it at? 446 00:31:50,536 --> 00:31:51,016 It's right here. 447 00:31:51,176 --> 00:31:52,356 This one, this project, Kian. 448 00:31:53,036 --> 00:31:57,596 So the consensus engine. 449 00:31:58,456 --> 00:32:00,836 So what is the process with this? 450 00:32:00,876 --> 00:32:02,896 Because I know this is supposed to be the, 451 00:32:03,136 --> 00:32:06,316 this is supposed to be like the kernel 452 00:32:06,316 --> 00:32:08,656 that is going to now allow people 453 00:32:08,656 --> 00:32:11,376 to create their own implementation for each node. 454 00:32:11,736 --> 00:32:18,956 So where's this? I know there's a grant out there for somebody who's creating this. What's the update on this? Do you know? 455 00:32:19,696 --> 00:32:22,236 Yeah. So Carl Dong was the one I think who initiated this work. 456 00:32:22,316 --> 00:32:34,096 But the whole idea is you take out all of Bitcoin Core's consensus code and you turn it into a library that anyone can use to add other things that aren't consensus related to a Bitcoin node implementation. 457 00:32:34,096 --> 00:32:46,396 And the reason why you want to do this is oftentimes the consensus code of a Bitcoin implementation is itself sort of a specification for a consensus. 458 00:32:46,556 --> 00:32:54,176 Like it can have bugs in it or peculiarities that aren't obvious and do not port to other implementations. 459 00:32:54,176 --> 00:33:10,096 And so we kind of want to share this important part of the code that itself is sort of a specification for consensus and allow it to be reused so that people can add new relay policies and things to Bitcoin Core on top of Bitcoin Core's consensus. 460 00:33:10,296 --> 00:33:13,636 Other P2P technologies, other user interfaces, things like that. 461 00:33:14,236 --> 00:33:22,996 So that's the motivation for doing something like this is to pull out the part that we all need to share so that people for the parts that we don't need to share, it can be arbitrary and you can do whatever. 462 00:33:22,996 --> 00:33:34,276 You can have a pink GUI in your, you can release a Bitcoin core or a Bitcoin implementation that has a pink GUI and only does P2P using emojis or whatever. 463 00:33:34,436 --> 00:33:34,856 I don't know. 464 00:33:35,296 --> 00:33:36,336 But it can be arbitrary. 465 00:33:37,056 --> 00:33:46,276 But I think the way it was explained to me is like this is something that we could all agree on because it doesn't require so many, what's the right word? 466 00:33:46,276 --> 00:33:56,956 there's not so many outside considerations right there's there's like these main things that 467 00:33:56,956 --> 00:34:04,336 bitcoiners all agree on as far as like you know 21 million and that sort of thing yep those are 468 00:34:04,336 --> 00:34:07,916 all the in the consensus engine are all the consensus rules all the things that are that 469 00:34:07,916 --> 00:34:13,976 make bitcoin bitcoin so it would be kind of like the linux kernel right the equivalent yes so that's 470 00:34:13,976 --> 00:34:18,236 I think why they called it kernel, but kernel basically means core important, you know, very 471 00:34:18,236 --> 00:34:23,256 important. So how close are we to that? Keon, like how far, I mean, how, I mean, when I say close, 472 00:34:23,316 --> 00:34:29,596 I mean, how close are we as far as moving the conversation towards that? So then we can finally 473 00:34:29,596 --> 00:34:35,916 get to a place of like, Hey, can we get, um, I think there is somebody working on it. I don't 474 00:34:35,916 --> 00:34:41,596 know who it is now, but, uh, moving to a place of this. So that way we then can move to a place of, 475 00:34:41,596 --> 00:34:43,536 kind of like how Linux did it, 476 00:34:43,556 --> 00:34:44,836 where they were able to have 477 00:34:44,836 --> 00:34:46,636 like different variants of it at that point. 478 00:34:47,216 --> 00:34:48,396 Because I think the world has, 479 00:34:48,616 --> 00:34:49,596 and Jimmy talked about this 480 00:34:49,596 --> 00:34:51,616 at Bitcoin Builders Club about two months ago, 481 00:34:52,076 --> 00:34:53,256 where the world has changed. 482 00:34:53,956 --> 00:34:55,816 There's so many different market forces now 483 00:34:55,816 --> 00:34:56,316 around Bitcoin 484 00:34:56,316 --> 00:34:58,296 because it's over a trillion dollar market. 485 00:34:58,836 --> 00:35:03,116 So at least I agree with him on that. 486 00:35:04,176 --> 00:35:06,056 How close are we to moving that conversation 487 00:35:06,056 --> 00:35:07,256 in that direction, do you think? 488 00:35:07,636 --> 00:35:08,836 Well, people have been talking about this 489 00:35:08,836 --> 00:35:09,336 for a long time, 490 00:35:09,376 --> 00:35:11,156 as we can see from this Carl Dong video. 491 00:35:11,156 --> 00:35:13,216 I think this was like 2018 or something. 492 00:35:13,416 --> 00:35:15,196 So this is when he began working on it. 493 00:35:15,236 --> 00:35:17,236 I think there were prior attempts to do it. 494 00:35:17,476 --> 00:35:21,916 It's very hard, but it's very hard is the gist of this. 495 00:35:21,996 --> 00:35:24,676 Carl Dong has since moved on, and I think someone else has a grant 496 00:35:24,676 --> 00:35:26,156 who is now working on this. 497 00:35:26,256 --> 00:35:31,496 But you're trying to like, it's like you have a bunch of needles in a haystack. 498 00:35:31,696 --> 00:35:35,136 You know, there's a big haystack that's all of Bitcoin Core's code base, 499 00:35:35,236 --> 00:35:37,996 and all of the needles are what you're trying to isolate 500 00:35:37,996 --> 00:35:40,816 into one system that can be shared. 501 00:35:40,876 --> 00:35:42,456 It's all the consensus code or all the needles. 502 00:35:42,876 --> 00:35:44,036 So you have to find all the needles 503 00:35:44,036 --> 00:35:46,436 and somehow not disturb 504 00:35:46,436 --> 00:35:49,676 or reconstitute them in a way 505 00:35:49,676 --> 00:35:51,556 that they're still like coherent and make sense. 506 00:35:53,616 --> 00:35:55,496 And so it's a lot of work 507 00:35:55,496 --> 00:35:58,496 and hard to get all that code out. 508 00:35:59,456 --> 00:36:01,016 And so that's why it's taken a long time. 509 00:36:01,536 --> 00:36:04,776 And how close are we to getting that done? 510 00:36:05,796 --> 00:36:06,616 I don't know. 511 00:36:06,676 --> 00:36:07,656 I'm not working on it. 512 00:36:07,656 --> 00:36:11,556 I would guess we're still probably quite a ways away from getting it done. 513 00:36:12,096 --> 00:36:14,516 And so I'm not sure. 514 00:36:15,016 --> 00:36:23,876 I wouldn't, I think we're going to have this debate for a long time because I don't think this, this is going to happen soon, but there might be new people are interested in working on this thing. 515 00:36:24,416 --> 00:36:29,876 That would be a great use of someone who cares deeply about filters and stuff like that. 516 00:36:30,136 --> 00:36:31,516 That would be a great use of their time. 517 00:36:31,516 --> 00:36:37,156 Mostly what I hear from people who care about filters is that other people should be doing this kind of thing and other people should be working on this. 518 00:36:37,156 --> 00:36:39,836 and what other Bitcoiners should be doing 519 00:36:39,836 --> 00:36:41,596 is a lot of what I hear from a lot of the 520 00:36:41,596 --> 00:36:43,856 even filter people who I see 521 00:36:43,856 --> 00:36:45,936 relatively regularly when I was like 522 00:36:45,936 --> 00:36:47,116 well why don't you work on it? 523 00:36:47,216 --> 00:36:48,776 Why don't you join the effort? 524 00:36:49,316 --> 00:36:51,916 They're like but I don't know C code. I don't know how to do it. 525 00:36:53,176 --> 00:36:54,116 And someone else 526 00:36:54,116 --> 00:36:55,696 who knows C code, some autists 527 00:36:55,696 --> 00:36:57,756 should do it. 528 00:36:59,116 --> 00:36:59,956 I wasn't going 529 00:36:59,956 --> 00:37:01,876 to say who it was but I guess 530 00:37:01,876 --> 00:37:03,696 my impression was so good 531 00:37:03,696 --> 00:37:04,556 that we figured it out. 532 00:37:04,556 --> 00:37:09,016 yeah um now anyway i just wanted i just wanted to bring this up because i thought it was an 533 00:37:09,016 --> 00:37:13,976 interesting concept when i first heard about it cool um do you have any thoughts on that or 534 00:37:13,976 --> 00:37:20,616 should we move on let's go okay that's all the top three stories of the week here on 535 00:37:20,616 --> 00:37:25,436 stacker news live you got to be the best now there is no there is no fourth or fifth best 536 00:37:25,436 --> 00:37:32,116 anymore on stacker news live you're gonna be the top three top three what's uh top three now you're 537 00:37:32,116 --> 00:37:37,056 to be the top three if we only had one story top three would you read it every week yeah i would 538 00:37:37,056 --> 00:37:41,896 but you gotta be the top three now you can't just be the top can i you can't just limp in anymore on 539 00:37:41,896 --> 00:37:47,496 top five you gotta be the top three now okay i think this is my howard stern impression and uh 540 00:37:47,496 --> 00:37:50,976 oh yeah you do look like howard stern this is my top you gotta be the top three i think myself and 541 00:37:50,976 --> 00:37:56,216 and maybe i can speak for the stackers at home yeah we may want to hear um the rationale for the 542 00:37:56,216 --> 00:38:03,096 change from five to three yeah go ahead tell them it's not my decision i was oh yeah i think me and 543 00:38:03,096 --> 00:38:08,076 kian were just talking on his way to the question one day car told me what we were gonna do he's 544 00:38:08,076 --> 00:38:12,836 like well he's like he interpreted all the feedback as we're covering too many top stories 545 00:38:12,836 --> 00:38:17,776 yeah and what we need to do is cover fewer yeah and i'm whenever when anyone's like i want to do 546 00:38:17,776 --> 00:38:22,996 an experiment i'm always like yes do the experiment yeah plus we're at 200 we're plus we're at 200 547 00:38:22,996 --> 00:38:29,056 episodes it's time to change it up can we can we point to the place in the feedback that made you 548 00:38:29,056 --> 00:38:35,116 come to that conclusion can we do it in meta is that okay and yeah we can do it later okay yeah 549 00:38:35,116 --> 00:38:39,216 we'll do it later but stackers you're wondering i'm wondering hey we're all wondering even i'm 550 00:38:39,216 --> 00:38:45,876 wondering hey this week in ai october 20th to the 26th 2025 made by your boy optimism check it out 551 00:38:45,876 --> 00:38:52,456 um is it the end of nine to five i don't know maybe it is in china apparently silicon valley 552 00:38:52,456 --> 00:38:59,996 startups are now embracing the chinese culture of 996 keon what do you think about that what is 553 00:38:59,996 --> 00:39:05,936 996 it's where they work nine hours 72 hour basically schedule we already do that bitcoin 554 00:39:05,936 --> 00:39:09,956 is ready to do that or me and you do that but apparently in china everybody does that 555 00:39:09,956 --> 00:39:16,656 okay they work 72 hours but why is it expressed as 996 do you work i think it's like nine hours a 556 00:39:16,656 --> 00:39:22,996 day uh why is it two nines and then i don't know maybe it's like let me see if i can get this right 557 00:39:22,996 --> 00:39:29,256 oh it's blocked typical wired okay so maybe it maybe it's 996 you work two nine hour days then 558 00:39:29,256 --> 00:39:32,896 one six hour day and then two nine hours i think it's like six days a week but we already work six 559 00:39:32,896 --> 00:39:37,576 days a week okay but why is it 99 i'm trying to think maybe because i only get paid nine dollars 560 00:39:37,576 --> 00:39:43,196 an hour or something this is in china mostly you said so in china there's actually um 18 hours a 561 00:39:43,196 --> 00:39:49,996 day no so they work 18 hours a day no they work nine and then they're not working nine all right 562 00:39:49,996 --> 00:39:54,896 that's the nine nine anyways well anyway i just want to cover real quick somebody's watching this 563 00:39:54,896 --> 00:40:01,816 on youtube feel free to hate me on the comments uh next one i wanted to cover was the uh clod 564 00:40:01,816 --> 00:40:05,916 skills are awesome maybe a bigger deal than mcp kia did you read this because i did it 565 00:40:05,916 --> 00:40:14,316 uh no i did not i did not read it i would not bring up a story that i didn't read i didn't read 566 00:40:14,316 --> 00:40:20,216 it but but what do they mean that did they did they get rid there's no way claude got rid of mcp 567 00:40:20,216 --> 00:40:24,396 right didn't they invent it that's why i brought it up i was like how is that possible it says 568 00:40:24,396 --> 00:40:29,096 anthropic this morning introduced claude skills a new pattern for making new abilities available 569 00:40:29,096 --> 00:40:33,396 to their models claude can now use skills to improve how it performs specific tasks 570 00:40:33,396 --> 00:40:41,776 okay maybe it's just an add-on do you use clod uh i use clod um i use i think it's sonnet or 571 00:40:41,776 --> 00:40:47,416 whatever the latest model is you're not going to use skills then uh i'm not i'm not doing i'm not 572 00:40:47,416 --> 00:40:52,516 like exploring the boundaries of ai very regularly i'm still having to write a lot so it sounds like 573 00:40:52,516 --> 00:40:57,176 a no-go for most people great no i don't think so i think for people around the this is like 574 00:40:57,176 --> 00:41:02,396 you know this is bleeding edge stuff all this kind of things and tell me more tell me more but i don't 575 00:41:02,396 --> 00:41:08,536 know i don't know much about it i would guess this is compatible with uh mcp somehow yeah 576 00:41:08,536 --> 00:41:13,136 it's okay and i haven't read i don't haven't read about it but i would 577 00:41:13,136 --> 00:41:20,716 roll on more as the weeks go on hey this is why we have optimism doing the ai bitcoin thing every 578 00:41:20,716 --> 00:41:25,776 week i didn't have time to read it i was i was preparing for my non-preparedness just like peter 579 00:41:25,776 --> 00:41:27,796 Todd. I'm joking, 580 00:41:27,916 --> 00:41:29,496 Peter. He knows I'm a jokester. 581 00:41:30,316 --> 00:41:32,036 Next one is 582 00:41:32,036 --> 00:41:33,896 Womble's Picks. Are you ready for Womble's 583 00:41:33,896 --> 00:41:35,776 Picks? I thought that was. Oh, that was AI. 584 00:41:36,176 --> 00:41:37,876 Picks, picks, picks, picks, 585 00:41:37,876 --> 00:41:39,776 picks, picks, picks. Everything's a 586 00:41:39,776 --> 00:41:41,876 Womble's Picks these days. Oh, Womble's Picks, 587 00:41:42,016 --> 00:41:43,156 Picks, Picks, Picks. 588 00:41:44,296 --> 00:41:45,016 Womble's Picks. 589 00:41:45,996 --> 00:41:47,196 No clear way to run 590 00:41:47,196 --> 00:41:49,556 SSP without 591 00:41:49,556 --> 00:41:51,356 business relationships with LightSpark 592 00:41:51,356 --> 00:41:53,616 from DarthCoin. I'm surprised. 593 00:41:53,916 --> 00:41:55,256 21 comments, 1950. 594 00:41:55,256 --> 00:41:56,176 Keon 595 00:41:56,176 --> 00:42:07,552 what your boy Darth talking about this week I can read this this anymore this is oh no it just too tough dude it just why is it tough it just itchy my hair 596 00:42:07,552 --> 00:42:16,952 um okay i can freeze getting claustrophobic in there it's so oily yeah i definitely don't 597 00:42:16,952 --> 00:42:22,832 want to wear it feel that instead it's oily it's oily i'll believe you gotta you gotta keep 598 00:42:22,832 --> 00:42:26,392 you have to pick a costume that's comfortable that's why i basically picked a hoodie that has 599 00:42:26,392 --> 00:42:27,412 I'll wear it. 600 00:42:27,412 --> 00:42:28,092 I'll wear it tonight. 601 00:42:28,332 --> 00:42:28,772 We go out. 602 00:42:29,692 --> 00:42:29,972 Okay. 603 00:42:31,052 --> 00:42:31,692 Anyway. 604 00:42:32,292 --> 00:42:32,932 Yeah. 605 00:42:32,952 --> 00:42:35,292 So it looks like the Rizful devs, 606 00:42:35,392 --> 00:42:35,672 I think, 607 00:42:35,672 --> 00:42:40,132 I think megalithic me might be the main name that posted this on to 608 00:42:40,132 --> 00:42:40,452 GitHub, 609 00:42:40,752 --> 00:42:44,852 but they're concerned about who can, 610 00:42:45,152 --> 00:42:49,232 who can be an important entity in the light spark universe. 611 00:42:49,592 --> 00:42:55,352 So we have a spark chain came out and a lot of these wallets are now 612 00:42:55,352 --> 00:42:56,172 using their API. 613 00:42:56,392 --> 00:42:57,812 and their state chain and stuff. 614 00:42:58,632 --> 00:43:02,072 And it has dependencies on other entities 615 00:43:02,072 --> 00:43:03,672 sort of interoperating with it. 616 00:43:04,152 --> 00:43:05,812 And Megalithic is concerned about 617 00:43:05,812 --> 00:43:12,052 how accessible being one of these operators is. 618 00:43:12,792 --> 00:43:13,992 And they get it kind of backwards 619 00:43:13,992 --> 00:43:17,552 because SSP is actually something anyone can do. 620 00:43:19,072 --> 00:43:21,252 There's a publicly available API 621 00:43:21,252 --> 00:43:22,752 that allows you to be an SSP. 622 00:43:22,752 --> 00:43:24,852 So that's, for instance, 623 00:43:24,852 --> 00:43:26,652 That's what Breeze is on top of Spark. 624 00:43:26,772 --> 00:43:31,612 They're not, I don't think they have any official relationship with Spark to do that. 625 00:43:32,172 --> 00:43:38,732 But for Spark operators, you do need, you basically need permission from other Spark operators. 626 00:43:39,252 --> 00:43:43,832 And I think most of the Spark operators currently are associated with LightSpark. 627 00:43:44,592 --> 00:43:49,092 So you do need permission from LightSpark to be a Spark operator. 628 00:43:49,092 --> 00:43:53,432 And they are concerned about that and what that might mean for customers. 629 00:43:53,432 --> 00:44:01,112 and what that might and kind of attempts to bring attention to other wallets that are not 630 00:44:01,112 --> 00:44:08,892 or that are participating in the Spark ecosystem, but are not maybe aware of this or disclosing 631 00:44:08,892 --> 00:44:14,652 such relationships to their customers or whatever. It's kind of in the weeds of 632 00:44:14,652 --> 00:44:22,932 Spark's implementation. But these Spark operators are really important for guaranteeing that 633 00:44:23,432 --> 00:44:25,832 you basically have a non-custodial wallet on Spark 634 00:44:25,832 --> 00:44:29,052 because one of N of these Spark operators 635 00:44:29,052 --> 00:44:34,792 needs to delete keys when coins on their chain change hands. 636 00:44:36,872 --> 00:44:37,992 Anyway, it's... 637 00:44:39,152 --> 00:44:40,392 They... 638 00:44:40,392 --> 00:44:41,812 Yeah, they get into here 639 00:44:41,812 --> 00:44:43,992 and then they begin talking about privacy more 640 00:44:43,992 --> 00:44:46,012 and things like that. 641 00:44:47,592 --> 00:44:49,592 Yeah, then everybody jumps in. 642 00:44:49,872 --> 00:44:50,992 Yeah, his cake... 643 00:44:50,992 --> 00:44:56,712 Seth for Privacy, who I think is like a product manager at Cake Wallet, 644 00:44:56,732 --> 00:44:58,892 which has a Spark wallet implementation. 645 00:44:59,412 --> 00:45:06,912 And he also drags in the Blitz wallet dev or project manager. 646 00:45:06,912 --> 00:45:07,392 Blake. 647 00:45:07,552 --> 00:45:07,712 Yeah. 648 00:45:08,392 --> 00:45:09,232 I know Blake. 649 00:45:09,472 --> 00:45:14,072 Because he also thinks they should be telling their customers about privacy, 650 00:45:14,612 --> 00:45:18,832 trade-offs, even where they, I mean, yeah, I don't know. 651 00:45:18,972 --> 00:45:20,872 It's a bit of a mess, a bit of drama. 652 00:45:20,992 --> 00:45:26,872 going on here but it's you know they're it is useful for i think both spark and people who are 653 00:45:26,872 --> 00:45:32,572 i mean it's kind of one of those things like does strike tell you that they're kyc you like does 654 00:45:32,572 --> 00:45:39,012 do do all these other ones tell you that they're kyc you i don't think they do no well they don't 655 00:45:39,012 --> 00:45:44,092 they don't call it kyc but you know it's kyc because yeah but they don't tell you though 656 00:45:44,092 --> 00:45:48,852 um yeah they're not that's not in their advertising hey come kyc with us and we'll 657 00:45:48,852 --> 00:45:52,472 give you a wallet an exchange account i mean it's kind of one of those things where i just see like 658 00:45:52,472 --> 00:45:57,552 just business interests like yes i think a lot of this it's just all business interests is motivated 659 00:45:57,552 --> 00:46:04,232 by incentives related to uh one service versus versus another but i think there he made some 660 00:46:04,232 --> 00:46:08,452 valid points in that thread about private kind of one of those things were like i think that i like 661 00:46:08,452 --> 00:46:13,392 i think a lot of other companies were winning were winning the lightning game and 662 00:46:13,392 --> 00:46:19,872 it's not so much easier anymore it sucks but that's just 663 00:46:19,872 --> 00:46:28,792 dapped what did optimism say yeah not a big fan of telling people orgs what to do with their money 664 00:46:28,792 --> 00:46:34,112 unless it's on their board interesting point about the api call though that's crazy best advice to 665 00:46:34,112 --> 00:46:37,812 still try to learn running your own node just as make great progress into making that easier 666 00:46:37,812 --> 00:46:41,352 yeah i think that's i mean that's the best thing is you can tell 667 00:46:41,352 --> 00:46:46,672 like the people that you know like your family friends all that stuff but 668 00:46:46,672 --> 00:46:49,952 um keep it on the field man just beat them at their 669 00:46:49,952 --> 00:46:54,992 you know i mean i think phoenix is doing a great job right 670 00:46:54,992 --> 00:47:00,312 what do you think yeah i don't know i don't i don't know anything about their business really 671 00:47:00,312 --> 00:47:05,132 and i mean like i think they're making a pretty good wallet right that's a good alternative if 672 00:47:05,132 --> 00:47:09,112 people really care about all this privacy stuff yeah but phoenix actually isn't super private 673 00:47:09,112 --> 00:47:16,432 oh well shows what i know yeah because you have to use their lsp to do most things in so 674 00:47:16,432 --> 00:47:21,352 they kind of know where money is going maybe maybe maybe justin is the only one that's making 675 00:47:21,352 --> 00:47:28,832 our super private wallet uh isn't it like on it's on the it's the responsibility of the product to 676 00:47:28,832 --> 00:47:34,592 be secure but then it's on the responsibility of the individual to be private because that's 677 00:47:34,592 --> 00:47:39,072 something i have to do oh that's it that's a good i like the way you phrase that yeah i would say 678 00:47:39,072 --> 00:47:45,812 that is true in general yes yeah you you shouldn't assume the company is respecting your privacy or 679 00:47:45,812 --> 00:47:50,472 is even able to fully right yeah and that's kind of what i'm thinking too like you can't listen 680 00:47:50,472 --> 00:47:55,712 if somebody's telling you their their thing that you want to use is private you probably 681 00:47:55,712 --> 00:48:02,732 should verify i think you're right jenna but i don't do that but it's a good thing to say 682 00:48:02,732 --> 00:48:13,752 yeah i don't know but um anyways i think it's good this is a good pick by wumble uh the next 683 00:48:13,752 --> 00:48:19,812 one was u.s bombs 15th alleged drug boat in latin america news from antiwar.com i didn't even know 684 00:48:19,812 --> 00:48:26,892 that was a website uh blockchain boog 20 comments 184 sets key on this is another wumble's picks 685 00:48:26,892 --> 00:48:30,292 going spicy this week from Wumble. What do you think about this one? 686 00:48:31,192 --> 00:48:34,932 Yeah, I guess the Department of War 687 00:48:34,932 --> 00:48:39,252 Chief Head, U.S. War Secretary Pete Hegseth 688 00:48:39,252 --> 00:48:42,912 has been waging war and sharing it. 689 00:48:42,912 --> 00:48:47,292 Oh my gosh, that's wild. And sharing the war they're waging with 690 00:48:47,292 --> 00:48:50,452 what they call narco-terrorists, which are 691 00:48:50,452 --> 00:48:54,852 people basically smuggling drugs to the United States, allegedly. I don't know. 692 00:48:54,852 --> 00:49:01,672 Most of what they're sharing is videos of them drone bombing ships in open water. 693 00:49:02,292 --> 00:49:04,872 And then they tell us afterwards that they're carrying drugs. 694 00:49:05,612 --> 00:49:07,032 And that's kind of what we know. 695 00:49:07,692 --> 00:49:13,472 And I think they've shared 15 such cases so far where they have done that. 696 00:49:14,912 --> 00:49:19,192 And yeah, I guess this is the new war on drugs. 697 00:49:19,772 --> 00:49:22,552 It is like a pretty kinetic war. 698 00:49:23,972 --> 00:49:24,492 Wild. 699 00:49:24,852 --> 00:49:28,052 this is why you need to start your own podcast so you can defend yourself 700 00:49:28,052 --> 00:49:32,992 what does that have to do with you think if they had a they were recording a podcast on this boat 701 00:49:32,992 --> 00:49:37,912 it wouldn't hurt right they're they're live streaming during during that boat attack 702 00:49:37,912 --> 00:49:43,972 maybe start early yeah i mean you can imagine how fun the podcast would be we're just snorting 703 00:49:43,972 --> 00:49:49,072 lines of coke like before or after and during that's not what i'm saying i'm saying like i mean 704 00:49:49,072 --> 00:49:54,612 sometimes sometimes you gotta like you gotta like let people know that you're not a bad guy so 705 00:49:54,612 --> 00:50:01,232 if what you're saying is true maybe maybe there's another side to the story but we'll never know 706 00:50:01,232 --> 00:50:06,432 it kind of reminds me this reminds me in all seriousness this reminds me of remember when 707 00:50:06,432 --> 00:50:11,332 they were bombing the journalists that were covering the war in iraq and and i and i ran like 708 00:50:11,332 --> 00:50:17,292 10 15 years ago when they're you're talking about the wikileaks video oh i don't think it was that 709 00:50:17,292 --> 00:50:22,312 one it was like it was this was like 2008 i think or 2000 it was like during i didn't know they were 710 00:50:22,312 --> 00:50:29,812 bombing yeah they were bombing journalists that were covering um man i forget my it's all wash 711 00:50:29,812 --> 00:50:35,692 my uh 20s but they were doing the same thing and they were saying that they were terrorists 712 00:50:35,692 --> 00:50:41,372 uh but and to be honest this is not like this is not just the united states this is every country 713 00:50:41,372 --> 00:50:47,112 that does this uh this is why there's like the human rights foundation right like um this is 714 00:50:47,112 --> 00:50:51,052 every country that does that's one side of it this is not just the united states that's one side of 715 00:50:51,052 --> 00:50:55,232 is like these people maybe aren't narco-terrorists and they're just bombing ships the others you know 716 00:50:55,232 --> 00:51:00,572 like if we can we can play the game of like okay maybe maybe they are narco-terrorists and it but 717 00:51:00,572 --> 00:51:07,292 and then say is this good or bad and uh i i think i i i don't know the situation because i'm not a 718 00:51:07,292 --> 00:51:13,992 political or what is this what do you what is that like a war chief wartime chief you're not 719 00:51:13,992 --> 00:51:20,432 a war chief all this time no this old time turns out but um i don't have enough information to 720 00:51:20,432 --> 00:51:25,232 comment on it man i i do think it's interesting that they're they're showing the videos though 721 00:51:25,232 --> 00:51:29,892 that's wild like i didn't know when i clicked that video that i was gonna see a bombing 722 00:51:29,892 --> 00:51:36,232 i definitely don't want that in my feed so the other side of it is kind of like maybe there are 723 00:51:36,232 --> 00:51:41,232 drugs and there are some really bad drugs in the world oh there are yeah maybe there's maybe those 724 00:51:41,232 --> 00:51:45,892 guys are responsible for it but then the question becomes do they deserve to get bombed out of the 725 00:51:45,892 --> 00:51:53,072 water with it and should we be fighting a war on drugs period i'm more of i'm i take the position 726 00:51:53,072 --> 00:51:59,332 that i just think drugs should be legal so i don't see i don't see much i i kind of don't like it 727 00:51:59,332 --> 00:52:04,472 either way um i think it's whether they are carrying drugs or not i don't i don't like it 728 00:52:04,472 --> 00:52:10,052 but i also don't like people doing you know doing drugs and dying children doing drugs and dying 729 00:52:10,052 --> 00:52:13,972 yeah like and that kind of stuff but i think that's mostly the result of it being illegal 730 00:52:13,972 --> 00:52:14,692 to begin with. 731 00:52:14,752 --> 00:52:16,072 And so you end up in this weird place 732 00:52:16,072 --> 00:52:16,752 where it's like, 733 00:52:17,752 --> 00:52:20,372 maybe I agree with their behavior 734 00:52:20,372 --> 00:52:23,832 if we assume that we can't change the laws 735 00:52:23,832 --> 00:52:25,152 as they are with respect to drugs. 736 00:52:25,252 --> 00:52:26,212 Maybe this is the way 737 00:52:26,212 --> 00:52:27,992 that you deal with the problems 738 00:52:27,992 --> 00:52:29,452 those laws create. 739 00:52:30,072 --> 00:52:31,772 So what I saw, 740 00:52:31,832 --> 00:52:33,292 so what I saw that poster this week, 741 00:52:33,892 --> 00:52:35,712 I was talking to Wombo about this earlier. 742 00:52:35,972 --> 00:52:37,972 So I knew he was going to post this thing. 743 00:52:38,472 --> 00:52:41,772 And it reminded me of this ACL video 744 00:52:41,772 --> 00:52:49,172 that uh flaming lips did like in the 2000s and it was this is a crazy cover of war pigs by black 745 00:52:49,172 --> 00:52:55,492 sabbath and i don't know if you guys know the lyrics to war pigs but it's an amazing song and 746 00:52:55,492 --> 00:53:03,852 and wayne cohen's like this crazy guy uh and uh anyway so like they do this rendition of war 747 00:53:03,852 --> 00:53:08,552 pigs you know war pigs right awesome black sabbath's war pigs we know it oh you do know 748 00:53:08,552 --> 00:53:09,832 Yeah, we both know it. 749 00:53:09,832 --> 00:53:16,372 But when I saw the video and I saw the comments, it kind of reminded me of this song, like Warpigs. 750 00:53:16,612 --> 00:53:22,132 It's just like, I mean, America really does enjoy its war. 751 00:53:22,612 --> 00:53:24,252 And I think that's what the song's about. 752 00:53:24,472 --> 00:53:26,512 And that's what this performance is about. 753 00:53:28,552 --> 00:53:36,472 It's like, it's a real, like, you know, good art really does make you, like, think about what we're looking at. 754 00:53:36,472 --> 00:53:40,432 And this is what really Austin really is about. 755 00:53:40,532 --> 00:53:41,292 It's kind of like that. 756 00:53:41,412 --> 00:53:44,252 It's like this is in Austin, downtown. 757 00:53:44,672 --> 00:53:45,932 So it's kind of freaking wild. 758 00:53:47,592 --> 00:53:51,392 Anyways, thought I'd share that just for something y'all want to think about. 759 00:53:52,872 --> 00:53:54,012 Keon, what do you think? 760 00:53:54,352 --> 00:53:55,532 Being in that cockroach. 761 00:53:55,752 --> 00:53:57,172 Do you feel like you're going to get exterminated? 762 00:53:57,772 --> 00:53:58,172 No. 763 00:53:58,332 --> 00:54:02,032 Well, apparently we survived pretty good in wartime. 764 00:54:02,612 --> 00:54:04,452 Do you think if you would have survived that boat? 765 00:54:05,052 --> 00:54:06,112 Yeah, I probably would have. 766 00:54:06,112 --> 00:54:11,132 just like blown into the water i have wings i could fly sometimes if i really need to i'm like 767 00:54:11,132 --> 00:54:19,612 a chicken we lost it but i did want to ask you more about um so like the stance of like drugs 768 00:54:19,612 --> 00:54:26,692 should be legalized whoa okay following you there because i think you said um we're in this position 769 00:54:26,692 --> 00:54:31,552 with the drugs have gotten like more dangerous because drugs have been legalized like because 770 00:54:31,552 --> 00:54:38,712 of chasing like the high you need to do something more and more intense yeah but that's just a nature 771 00:54:38,712 --> 00:54:43,112 of drugs period that's the nature of drugs yeah but so now that we're in this state where like 772 00:54:43,112 --> 00:54:49,632 drugs are like more dangerous than ever um is that not time to like update the like 773 00:54:50,312 --> 00:54:57,652 yeah all drugs be legal i i i personally think they should be legal i think that changes 774 00:54:57,652 --> 00:55:01,412 everyone's attitude toward it. Parents are prepared to educate their kids about drugs 775 00:55:01,412 --> 00:55:04,672 because they don't assume the state is going to do the parenting for them. 776 00:55:05,232 --> 00:55:09,292 The other side is I think drugs are safer when they are legal 777 00:55:09,292 --> 00:55:12,532 because there's no reason to do fentanyl if 778 00:55:12,532 --> 00:55:17,112 you can get heroin that is good and clean 779 00:55:17,112 --> 00:55:21,052 and cheap. Most people are doing fentanyl because it 780 00:55:21,052 --> 00:55:25,172 takes up less volume and weight for the high that it gives. 781 00:55:25,452 --> 00:55:27,252 Hey, welcome in. We're talking about fentanyl. 782 00:55:27,252 --> 00:55:28,272 You want to say something? 783 00:55:29,152 --> 00:55:30,572 No, I'm following you, though. 784 00:55:32,092 --> 00:55:35,492 We're all going to do a bump of fentanyl after this podcast. 785 00:55:35,492 --> 00:55:36,832 For any children. 786 00:55:39,092 --> 00:55:40,352 Kill Tony. 787 00:55:41,412 --> 00:55:43,712 Did they finally do it? 788 00:55:43,892 --> 00:55:44,192 Kill him? 789 00:55:45,552 --> 00:55:48,192 No, they were actually trying to save people here. 790 00:55:48,732 --> 00:55:51,572 They had a bottled water, like a bubbly water. 791 00:55:52,292 --> 00:55:55,332 And on the can, it had, what do they call it? 792 00:55:55,852 --> 00:55:56,292 Narcan? 793 00:55:56,292 --> 00:56:03,212 like basically one of these strips that allows you to test uh for fentanyl okay and the city of 794 00:56:03,212 --> 00:56:08,412 austin wouldn't let them put it in stores maybe it wasn't maybe they were just talking about it 795 00:56:08,412 --> 00:56:13,512 but um you kind of imagine that like that would be a really good product like okay i'm gonna go do 796 00:56:13,512 --> 00:56:19,152 some coke tonight but i'm just gonna go grab one of these bubbly waters with it with a drug strip 797 00:56:19,152 --> 00:56:23,552 on the top yeah yeah test it just in case right i can keep it so casual convenient on my person 798 00:56:23,552 --> 00:56:31,912 yeah so i think just like yeah legalize the drugs legalize the testing strips test everything 799 00:56:31,912 --> 00:56:38,792 yeah don't trust verify okay well i'm glad i asked to follow up because that's helpful 800 00:56:38,792 --> 00:56:43,672 yeah i mean i mean car had helpful input where he shared a song that it reminded him 801 00:56:43,672 --> 00:56:49,592 yeah it reminded me of that because i i mean i don't know i always look at things in like extremes 802 00:56:49,592 --> 00:56:53,692 and so I'm always going to look at things in extremes 803 00:56:53,692 --> 00:56:57,052 because it just like that's where my mind goes to 804 00:56:57,052 --> 00:57:01,572 especially when it comes to stuff like that like I can't like I can't see 805 00:57:01,572 --> 00:57:05,072 I don't know how to how do I explain this yeah I don't know 806 00:57:05,072 --> 00:57:08,912 like so when I see something like because I just saw somebody die 807 00:57:08,912 --> 00:57:13,072 in a military drone strike and I wasn't expecting to see that today 808 00:57:13,072 --> 00:57:17,232 so that's kind of shocking I didn't think there were people in the boat I couldn't even see that I tried watching the video 809 00:57:17,232 --> 00:57:24,472 look at it um shout out the flaming lips are from oklahoma city there you go uh but yeah like to me 810 00:57:24,472 --> 00:57:30,652 it's just like hard to fathom that like i wasn't expecting to see that today and then um yeah and 811 00:57:30,652 --> 00:57:37,032 so when i see that it's like what's the artistic way to express that kind of thing that feeling 812 00:57:37,032 --> 00:57:44,752 flaming lips doing war pigs and acl with blood on his face screaming uh you know the war machine 813 00:57:44,752 --> 00:57:46,572 is coming. That's how you express that. 814 00:57:46,792 --> 00:57:48,732 And I thought it was a good rendition of it. 815 00:57:49,592 --> 00:57:51,732 So, yeah. 816 00:57:51,832 --> 00:57:52,072 Yeah. 817 00:57:52,432 --> 00:57:54,732 I wouldn't have known 818 00:57:54,732 --> 00:57:56,832 about that song. 819 00:57:57,732 --> 00:57:58,652 It's cool. You should listen to it. 820 00:57:58,672 --> 00:58:00,852 It's a really good cover. You got Cat Power to join 821 00:58:00,852 --> 00:58:01,392 him on that one. 822 00:58:02,612 --> 00:58:04,672 The next one is 823 00:58:04,672 --> 00:58:06,332 we're going to jump into 824 00:58:06,332 --> 00:58:07,892 your post first, Keon. 825 00:58:08,912 --> 00:58:10,632 Yeah, let's do it. Talent Redux. 826 00:58:10,632 --> 00:58:12,632 This is from Elvis Mercury. Keon, what's this? 827 00:58:12,832 --> 00:58:14,592 Yeah, I wanted to share this one because Elvis Mercury 828 00:58:14,592 --> 00:58:21,152 quit his job and i like oh wow people are unhappy at their jobs and they quit it's my um job elvis 829 00:58:21,152 --> 00:58:25,872 mercury anyone tells me they're unhappy at their job i just usually tell them to quit that is true 830 00:58:25,872 --> 00:58:33,672 um so uh i find it's usually what they want to do um well and i i helped i give them permission to 831 00:58:33,672 --> 00:58:38,592 do it but i didn't i didn't have to do that for elvis mercury he did that for himself and figured 832 00:58:38,592 --> 00:58:46,052 it out after a while and he uh ended up leaving his job and now he's working on what's figuring 833 00:58:46,052 --> 00:58:53,492 out what's next for for them and um cool yeah i'm excited and we i think we probably talked about 834 00:58:53,492 --> 00:58:59,052 the article he links to in here this one yeah uh at one point we probably had we probably covered 835 00:58:59,052 --> 00:59:05,432 this on the podcast but he he relates a bunch of things about you know finding what to work on 836 00:59:05,432 --> 00:59:09,532 how you should pursue becoming a, I don't know, 837 00:59:09,552 --> 00:59:10,912 a valuable person maybe, 838 00:59:11,352 --> 00:59:14,692 but maybe not even like valuable in a market sense, 839 00:59:14,732 --> 00:59:15,792 but valuable to you. 840 00:59:17,032 --> 00:59:17,312 And- 841 00:59:17,312 --> 00:59:17,332 What? 842 00:59:17,512 --> 00:59:18,352 Of course he's valuable. 843 00:59:18,912 --> 00:59:19,472 Come on, man. 844 00:59:20,332 --> 00:59:21,352 Yeah, but how do you become, 845 00:59:21,912 --> 00:59:24,612 how do you become even, I don't know, 846 00:59:24,732 --> 00:59:30,452 uniquely talented in a way that gives you a deep meaning and- 847 00:59:30,452 --> 00:59:31,112 Build leverage. 848 00:59:31,792 --> 00:59:32,432 Is super fulfilling? 849 00:59:32,432 --> 00:59:32,892 Is that simple? 850 00:59:34,092 --> 00:59:35,192 Yeah, but how do you do it? 851 00:59:35,432 --> 00:59:36,972 Yeah, that's kind of the question. 852 00:59:37,132 --> 00:59:39,332 It's not, I think we all are aware. 853 00:59:39,372 --> 00:59:41,192 Maybe I'll write an article on that this weekend. 854 00:59:41,332 --> 00:59:42,312 Maybe I'll write an article on that. 855 00:59:43,052 --> 00:59:43,372 Okay. 856 00:59:44,952 --> 00:59:47,292 That might be good. 857 00:59:48,692 --> 00:59:49,652 I hope you do. 858 00:59:50,892 --> 00:59:54,312 I don't think it's as hard as people think, but maybe I'll do that. 859 00:59:54,312 --> 01:00:03,212 I think he lays out, he's familiar with most of the advice as it relates to developing talent and getting leverage and all the other things. 860 01:00:03,212 --> 01:00:09,492 It's just he has a knack for finding where it's complicated 861 01:00:09,492 --> 01:00:10,692 and spending a lot of time. 862 01:00:10,892 --> 01:00:11,532 Where does he live? 863 01:00:11,592 --> 01:00:15,372 I'd be curious to understand where he lives in his crazy world. 864 01:00:15,532 --> 01:00:16,592 I don't think he knows that. 865 01:00:16,752 --> 01:00:19,332 He might live in Venezuela. 866 01:00:19,892 --> 01:00:21,772 I think it definitely matters with the location. 867 01:00:22,852 --> 01:00:26,892 Well, I'm excited for Elvis Mercury to be around more 868 01:00:26,892 --> 01:00:29,712 and maybe tell us more about his life 869 01:00:29,712 --> 01:00:33,552 and what he's learned over the course of his interesting life. 870 01:00:33,712 --> 01:00:34,612 It's like Justin. 871 01:00:34,612 --> 01:00:36,192 Or their interesting life. 872 01:00:36,492 --> 01:00:38,952 Let me use gender neutral pronouns. 873 01:00:40,172 --> 01:00:42,292 It looks like Justin referenced Naval. 874 01:00:45,352 --> 01:00:47,112 Did you guys ever get into Naval? 875 01:00:47,872 --> 01:00:48,932 I don't know. 876 01:00:48,992 --> 01:00:50,832 I know the name, but I'm not on Twitter anymore, 877 01:00:50,892 --> 01:00:51,872 so I don't know what he says. 878 01:00:51,872 --> 01:00:54,532 Yeah, I like a lot of his How to Get Rich series. 879 01:00:55,172 --> 01:00:57,712 I think he does a great job of compressing. 880 01:00:57,712 --> 01:00:58,592 Is he a Bitcoin or no? 881 01:00:58,692 --> 01:00:58,852 Yeah. 882 01:00:58,852 --> 01:01:05,552 philosophy of life yeah his ability to compress is pretty uh remarkable expert yeah expert level 883 01:01:05,552 --> 01:01:13,072 compression cool stuff bro cool stuff uh the next top story is bitcoin is more than english speaking 884 01:01:13,072 --> 01:01:21,292 bitcoin twitter key on south korea lightning 16 comments 956 58 sets they say hey what's this 885 01:01:21,292 --> 01:01:28,492 yeah i'd like uh i like any reminder that bitcoin is not what a lot of bitcoiners who are like in 886 01:01:28,492 --> 01:01:34,232 Bitcoin think it is. And Bitcoin is like so much greater than that. And South Korea, Ellen, 887 01:01:34,812 --> 01:01:41,732 reminds us of that here. They have a friend who's quite a Bitcoiner, runs their own Bitcoin 888 01:01:41,732 --> 01:01:50,672 and Lightning node, which many people who think they're real Bitcoiners don't do. And they were 889 01:01:50,672 --> 01:01:57,252 completely unaware of all the offer turn drama and all the nonsense that has been going on. And so 890 01:01:57,252 --> 01:02:02,972 just a nice reality check hey yeah that's probably true hey you're probably not not much of a bitcoiner 891 01:02:02,972 --> 01:02:07,812 in a in a real sense person who thinks this drama is every yeah like my brother-in-law probably 892 01:02:07,812 --> 01:02:11,612 doesn't even know any of this like when i see him for thanksgiving he's gonna be like so what's going 893 01:02:11,612 --> 01:02:16,592 on a bitcoin i'd be like oh man you have no idea but he's not gonna not know any of it yeah you're 894 01:02:16,592 --> 01:02:23,612 right is he a bitcoiner your brother-in-law yeah he runs a node or no but he just has bitcoin yeah 895 01:02:23,612 --> 01:02:28,632 yeah that's a bitcoiner of a sort but i think even what i was impressed by and i think that's 896 01:02:28,632 --> 01:02:33,452 why south korea allen showed it as like this this guy is like a you know relatively sophisticated 897 01:02:33,452 --> 01:02:38,252 bitcoiner where he's actually i think that's most people right running his own uh self-hosting his 898 01:02:38,252 --> 01:02:44,472 own stuff it's most it's most bitcoiners boomers yeah bitcoin boomers not participating in the 899 01:02:44,472 --> 01:02:49,992 nonsense cool stuff plat point you got anything on this well i don't run any nodes so i'm not real 900 01:02:49,992 --> 01:02:51,872 And that's, I mean, I understand. 901 01:02:51,872 --> 01:02:52,372 No, you're real. 902 01:02:52,492 --> 01:02:53,092 You're just not. 903 01:02:53,452 --> 01:02:54,372 But I get it, though. 904 01:02:54,592 --> 01:02:55,432 There are levels to this game. 905 01:02:55,572 --> 01:02:56,052 I should. 906 01:02:56,172 --> 01:02:57,592 Yeah, I should level up. 907 01:02:57,912 --> 01:03:09,588 Yeah For sure Yeah I intimidated though And there other things to do There are There other ways to contribute to Bitcoin and improve your Bitcoin or Ness without running 908 01:03:09,588 --> 01:03:09,968 it out. 909 01:03:10,168 --> 01:03:10,408 Yeah. 910 01:03:10,628 --> 01:03:11,008 For sure. 911 01:03:12,368 --> 01:03:13,328 That's all of them. 912 01:03:13,408 --> 01:03:15,548 Let's jump into my post. 913 01:03:15,548 --> 01:03:19,348 First, we're going to jump into the spacecraft reveal. 914 01:03:19,468 --> 01:03:20,308 Have you seen this, Keon? 915 01:03:21,468 --> 01:03:26,128 So apparently the Atlas spacecraft is, or the common. 916 01:03:26,368 --> 01:03:27,388 Space guy isn't here. 917 01:03:27,388 --> 01:03:29,948 It's still swerving. 918 01:03:30,288 --> 01:03:31,788 Still doing its thing. 919 01:03:32,468 --> 01:03:37,988 This wasn't really a good link, but I have one down here because I'm prepared like Peter Todd. 920 01:03:41,728 --> 01:03:48,448 So you can see here, it's behind the sun right now because I pay attention to the stars. 921 01:03:49,008 --> 01:03:50,708 Some would say I'm a sophisticated guy. 922 01:03:52,268 --> 01:03:53,188 Yeah, it turns out, right? 923 01:03:53,208 --> 01:03:55,888 I've never heard anyone say that, but there are people who say that. 924 01:03:55,888 --> 01:03:56,368 You'd be surprised. 925 01:03:56,508 --> 01:03:56,828 Yeah, yeah. 926 01:03:56,828 --> 01:03:58,708 The latest, Keon. 927 01:03:58,828 --> 01:04:00,208 The latest say that. 928 01:04:00,288 --> 01:04:00,808 The latest say that. 929 01:04:00,808 --> 01:04:02,288 Are they going to say that with your leather jacket tonight? 930 01:04:02,388 --> 01:04:02,968 Oh, maybe. 931 01:04:03,248 --> 01:04:05,068 You'll have much better luck if you wear that wig, bro. 932 01:04:05,368 --> 01:04:05,748 Tell him. 933 01:04:06,608 --> 01:04:08,948 I'd probably have better luck if I wear that cockroach costume. 934 01:04:10,168 --> 01:04:12,928 I mean, who doesn't want a guy in a cockroach costume? 935 01:04:13,508 --> 01:04:16,428 No, but it's behind the sun right now, as you can see. 936 01:04:16,988 --> 01:04:19,888 It also looks like it's getting starrier. 937 01:04:20,128 --> 01:04:21,168 It's definitely getting brighter. 938 01:04:21,168 --> 01:04:29,448 and uh the guy the the guy who looks like um a fauci uh is making the appearances everywhere so 939 01:04:29,448 --> 01:04:38,128 i think i think we're ready for uh the aliens to arrive what do you think um yeah i don't know 940 01:04:38,128 --> 01:04:44,508 much about this i did i did see the headlines for this uh it looks like they observed it 941 01:04:44,508 --> 01:04:51,428 brightening and are struggling to explain it um i'm sure there is a it's a an explanation that 942 01:04:51,428 --> 01:04:57,348 isn't a isn't aliens um or you're you're right you're off the alien thing now doesn't assume 943 01:04:57,348 --> 01:05:01,488 you're hard alien on the beginning when this first was coming around mercury or 944 01:05:01,488 --> 01:05:05,288 when it's coming around that is not my memory roll the tape wumble 945 01:05:05,288 --> 01:05:13,568 no you were definitely when it was coming around titan and jupiter you're like this is aliens get 946 01:05:13,568 --> 01:05:22,008 ready car and i was the one that was like now key on hold your horses this is not aliens okay yeah 947 01:05:22,008 --> 01:05:27,608 well i'll find the clip and show it to you okay thank you yeah um anyway so you're back on the 948 01:05:27,608 --> 01:05:32,808 this is not a this is just a asteroid that i don't i i got like three words out and you're 949 01:05:32,808 --> 01:05:37,208 already telling me every every thought i've had about this this would be a good segment if i did 950 01:05:37,208 --> 01:05:45,388 i know i know that's why i brought up this post okay anyway uh yeah i saw the headlines for it 951 01:05:45,388 --> 01:05:51,328 and my sense of it is i don't know and uh i'm sure there are you can you can explain it either 952 01:05:51,328 --> 01:05:54,548 way if you want you can explain it in a way that makes it seem like aliens and you can explain it 953 01:05:54,548 --> 01:05:59,988 if the cockroach if the cock if you're the cockroach are you getting on this asteroid if 954 01:05:59,988 --> 01:06:04,408 it lands i mean cockroaches might already be from another planet i don't know if we've talked about 955 01:06:04,408 --> 01:06:09,668 this on this podcast but it's there's there's reason to believe that cockroaches are not of 956 01:06:09,668 --> 01:06:14,448 where did you get this idea of the or that's why i hate them sorry you're talking about a pixar movie 957 01:06:14,448 --> 01:06:21,488 you watch too many pixar that must be why i want them all to die yeah because you you like innately 958 01:06:21,488 --> 01:06:27,708 detects their they aren't earthlings i really like i have i'm on the ground floor in my apartment 959 01:06:27,708 --> 01:06:30,708 and I have cockroaches and I just... 960 01:06:32,308 --> 01:06:34,748 Man, my hatred for them is from another world. 961 01:06:34,928 --> 01:06:35,028 Really? 962 01:06:35,148 --> 01:06:36,668 Have you thought about loving them instead? 963 01:06:36,828 --> 01:06:37,108 No. 964 01:06:37,548 --> 01:06:38,308 As a solution. 965 01:06:39,048 --> 01:06:42,788 So you're like the drone with the cockroaches. 966 01:06:44,708 --> 01:06:47,708 We could get along peaceably until the moment 967 01:06:47,708 --> 01:06:49,628 that they crawled into... 968 01:06:49,628 --> 01:06:50,688 I don't even want to... 969 01:06:50,688 --> 01:06:52,048 So I did ask you, Plep, 970 01:06:52,048 --> 01:06:53,148 but what do you think is going on here? 971 01:06:53,228 --> 01:06:54,708 Do you think this is a... 972 01:06:55,548 --> 01:06:57,428 Do you think this is just a large rock 973 01:06:57,428 --> 01:07:05,228 or what do you think this is it's getting brighter behind the sun so um it's about to reveal itself 974 01:07:05,228 --> 01:07:14,768 tomorrow and sunday we'll see what i think okay um yeah i think it's pretty cool 975 01:07:14,768 --> 01:07:23,808 are you looking forward to um anything going on um not really something here nothing 976 01:07:23,808 --> 01:07:29,708 you don't expect anything uh yeah i can't i can't say i'm really expecting anything um 977 01:07:29,708 --> 01:07:39,268 but whatever happens happens basically and also you only live once that's i feel like you're just 978 01:07:39,268 --> 01:07:44,888 quoting like i feel like you're just quoting stroke songs at this point yeah all right sounds 979 01:07:44,888 --> 01:07:49,908 good yeah you guys didn't give me nothing that's that segment can i try better for next time it's 980 01:07:49,908 --> 01:07:54,788 all good the the next story i want to cover was happy bitcoin white paper day this for me tick so 981 01:07:54,788 --> 01:08:00,768 this is two years ago but this is the best post i could find um yeah check this out hey i celebrated 982 01:08:00,768 --> 01:08:09,488 it in the zine too so it's there oh cool we'll show it but yeah this is on sni bitcoin p2p e-cash 983 01:08:09,488 --> 01:08:17,008 paper um yeah look at it it's right there he says i've been working on a new electronic cash system 984 01:08:17,008 --> 01:08:19,708 that's fully peer-to-peer with no trusted third party. 985 01:08:20,728 --> 01:08:24,868 Actually, Scoresby was asking for something like this 986 01:08:24,868 --> 01:08:27,528 because he was saying all he could find was PDFs. 987 01:08:27,668 --> 01:08:28,928 Yeah, you need to go to SNI. 988 01:08:28,928 --> 01:08:31,028 And then paper is available there. 989 01:08:31,128 --> 01:08:32,508 The main property is here. 990 01:08:32,888 --> 01:08:33,508 SNI has both. 991 01:08:34,288 --> 01:08:38,288 Yeah, then he links it here, full paper, all that stuff, the original. 992 01:08:39,148 --> 01:08:40,288 And then you can even view the original. 993 01:08:40,408 --> 01:08:41,328 He has it down here at the bottom. 994 01:08:42,528 --> 01:08:43,308 Pretty cool, right? 995 01:08:43,728 --> 01:08:46,008 I've got war pigs stuck in my head right now. 996 01:08:46,008 --> 01:08:50,808 yeah what do you think about this what do i think about the bitcoin white paper yeah i think it's 997 01:08:50,808 --> 01:08:58,088 great i i like it i like it too yeah i'm glad it happened i'm glad it was released yeah me too 998 01:08:58,088 --> 01:09:03,268 uh pet putt you got anything yeah i mean like white isn't my favorite color 999 01:09:03,268 --> 01:09:05,908 but i think it's pretty cool still yeah 1000 01:09:05,908 --> 01:09:12,768 yeah he released it at 6 10 or 18 10 utc 1001 01:09:12,768 --> 01:09:20,428 and what does that tell you must have been a late night must have been a late night or early evening 1002 01:09:20,428 --> 01:09:26,988 or whenever it was must have been utc is five hours ahead or six hours ahead depending on what 1003 01:09:26,988 --> 01:09:33,728 time of year uh relative to texas time so so it would have been what like 3 p.m oh 1004 01:09:33,728 --> 01:09:39,668 it was a late afternoon it was a late afternoon assuming assuming satoshi was in texas but 1005 01:09:39,668 --> 01:09:46,708 oh you're saying he's in texas that was texas time oh wait this is texas time oh my god no i was 1006 01:09:46,708 --> 01:09:51,568 uh ut if you convert utc to texas time it's like 3 p.m in texas is when he sent that 1007 01:09:51,568 --> 01:09:58,268 so i don't know where satoshi was but there you know odds are you know he could have he could have 1008 01:09:58,268 --> 01:10:01,728 could have texas is a big state he could have been from texas could have been a texan he could 1009 01:10:01,728 --> 01:10:08,388 have been sent that from an oil rig wow what an imagination you have in texas possibly well i mean 1010 01:10:08,388 --> 01:10:14,548 I get around as a did you ever put the things on your hands did I miss that part no I haven't put 1011 01:10:14,548 --> 01:10:22,348 them on they're like I don't have um access to all my digits that way so yeah because you really 1012 01:10:22,348 --> 01:10:27,848 check it out it's Toshi Nakamoto Institute it's a great website I have it I have it saved as a web 1013 01:10:27,848 --> 01:10:34,088 app on my phone I look at it whenever I want to look up stuff because I come prepared well you're 1014 01:10:34,088 --> 01:10:41,008 so hardcore some would say um the next i think that's all of it yeah well you know what we went 1015 01:10:41,008 --> 01:10:49,068 through it pretty fast uh we're gonna go to meta boo stacker news scene 31 uh look at that 1016 01:10:49,068 --> 01:10:56,588 and if you're subscribed your zine is in the mail right now oh yeah wow 1017 01:10:56,588 --> 01:11:03,848 should we sneak preview it if it loads or that's it that's it right there look at that 1018 01:11:03,848 --> 01:11:11,728 does look spooky but you'll see the white paper oh wow look at you it says staggered asine is made 1019 01:11:11,728 --> 01:11:22,268 in austin each week by plot poet wow that's cool but um what else can i say about this oh i liked 1020 01:11:22,268 --> 01:11:26,748 those two posts because those were the posts that had the most comments this week and they actually 1021 01:11:26,748 --> 01:11:34,348 had the same amount of comments which was 101 uh is that reflected there or are they new some would 1022 01:11:34,348 --> 01:11:40,968 say yes um so that is pretty spooky and i love how you cover the culture part of uh stagger news 1023 01:11:40,968 --> 01:11:46,108 it really is the culture part of it right it's a cult it's a cultural zine it's cultural zine i'm 1024 01:11:46,108 --> 01:11:51,928 trying to yeah i'm trying to like put that into words and it's kind of hard but what's the hardest 1025 01:11:51,928 --> 01:11:58,568 part about it uh about the about making it the hardest part is um 1026 01:11:58,568 --> 01:12:08,068 like sometimes when i'm in the text box in canva i can't see where my cursor is if it's like on the 1027 01:12:08,068 --> 01:12:13,728 very edge so sometimes like i don't know if i'm putting it in the right spot and so that takes 1028 01:12:13,728 --> 01:12:19,828 that's that it's annoying can you just turn on the ruler or no i don't know how to actually i've 1029 01:12:19,828 --> 01:12:24,488 been trying to figure it out in canva i don't know where the ruler is you know where the ruler is 1030 01:12:24,488 --> 01:12:31,148 yeah i know where it's all right you'll show me yeah interesting this is great 1031 01:12:31,148 --> 01:12:37,448 oh i want to say shout out to my friends the worms because they gave me a bunch of stamps and 1032 01:12:37,448 --> 01:12:42,748 that's featured in that the stamps are featured so there was a cactus stamp we just saw we saw 1033 01:12:42,748 --> 01:12:53,028 the clown stamp hey uh stuff like that so thanks thanks pals yeah this is awesome 1034 01:12:53,028 --> 01:12:59,248 see that clown stamp that one's pretty good right where's the oh i see oh that's a step i thought you 1035 01:12:59,248 --> 01:13:05,988 had that made what's this lady here that lady is like if she works at a bank she's so scared of the 1036 01:13:05,988 --> 01:13:15,068 white paper oh no yeah so that's janet ellen that's janet ellen yeah that's cool she's so scared 1037 01:13:15,068 --> 01:13:27,288 this is good stuff yeah thanks cool boo good deal yeah it's fresh off the press oh is this printed 1038 01:13:27,288 --> 01:13:33,408 oh this is what it looks like printed oh you went with green yeah nice i like green 1039 01:13:33,408 --> 01:13:41,168 cool cool stuff um really cool stuff so you you wanted to talk about the darth coin post let me 1040 01:13:41,168 --> 01:13:46,948 see if i can find it let's go we could talk about it he i didn't really want to say that 1041 01:13:46,948 --> 01:13:50,748 i didn't want to bring it up but he did he also said that he didn't want it to become 1042 01:13:50,748 --> 01:13:58,168 to be brought up in the top posts i didn't uh you know i already brought it up it's already 1043 01:13:58,168 --> 01:14:03,068 happened and we're here halloween means iron maiden that's funny where is it at my two sets 1044 01:14:03,068 --> 01:14:08,388 here we go what do you think kian um here we go he basically was just talking about or i'll let 1045 01:14:08,388 --> 01:14:11,888 you talk about it because you wanted to talk about it go for it yeah kian what do you think 1046 01:14:11,888 --> 01:14:16,788 what do you think about what this post this is super meta by the way this is meta on meta on meta 1047 01:14:16,788 --> 01:14:23,908 i think everyone deserves their own opinion on stacker news live and stacker news in general and 1048 01:14:23,908 --> 01:14:29,748 i respect it i feel like he's just trolling us so i don't but no like what did he say at the 1049 01:14:29,748 --> 01:14:35,668 beginning he was like he was like no it's because i like this thing and i want to say these things 1050 01:14:35,668 --> 01:14:41,388 because like i think it can be better it's all out of love you didn't get that yeah i think on 1051 01:14:41,388 --> 01:14:45,908 the surface that's that but i think knowing him pretty well after four years this is a massive 1052 01:14:45,908 --> 01:14:49,988 troll and it's probably like because there's two people that run the dartha coin account 1053 01:14:49,988 --> 01:14:55,328 that's my suspicion this is probably like either that or like he made this when he was drunk 1054 01:14:55,328 --> 01:15:00,208 and he you are coming up with imaginative ways to discredit the things that he says 1055 01:15:00,208 --> 01:15:05,648 i'm like his only fan on stacker news who else is his fan ek ek's not his fan on stacker news 1056 01:15:05,648 --> 01:15:10,408 like i'm like his only fan i was just okay but the reason for bringing this up is like so 1057 01:15:10,408 --> 01:15:15,728 he does he loves us talking about him he does give suggestions right now he's drinking a beer 1058 01:15:15,728 --> 01:15:16,748 He's like, fuck your car. 1059 01:15:16,968 --> 01:15:17,968 So he does give suggestions. 1060 01:15:17,968 --> 01:15:19,788 And the way you interpreted the suggestions, 1061 01:15:19,908 --> 01:15:21,228 the action item that you took was. 1062 01:15:21,348 --> 01:15:21,888 No, we did it. 1063 01:15:21,928 --> 01:15:24,248 We changed five top posts to three top posts. 1064 01:15:24,428 --> 01:15:24,588 Yeah. 1065 01:15:24,848 --> 01:15:26,228 But I don't know where that's reflected. 1066 01:15:26,688 --> 01:15:29,168 So maybe it was. 1067 01:15:29,168 --> 01:15:34,328 I think he wants us to make it more about like the stackers and stuff like that. 1068 01:15:34,388 --> 01:15:35,048 And I agree. 1069 01:15:35,688 --> 01:15:38,308 It's just that, you know, me and Keon are busy during the week. 1070 01:15:38,628 --> 01:15:40,568 Like, you know, this is not our only job. 1071 01:15:40,648 --> 01:15:43,088 If it was, you would see all sorts of stuff. 1072 01:15:43,088 --> 01:15:48,108 i mean like yeah something that you said earlier to me too is that like 1073 01:15:48,108 --> 01:15:55,508 that we're not taking ourselves seriously and that's well that's but but but also 1074 01:15:55,508 --> 01:16:00,168 there are times but i am trying to be more chipper i think that was a big takeaway too 1075 01:16:00,168 --> 01:16:03,848 like i guess i have been kind of negative so i'm definitely trying to be more funny and more chipper 1076 01:16:03,848 --> 01:16:08,348 for the show yeah it's hard to be in control of how funny you are but i agree that it's pretty 1077 01:16:08,348 --> 01:16:14,908 easy to control how chipper you are yeah so i could be more you know yeah i could i could definitely 1078 01:16:14,908 --> 01:16:21,828 bring more energy yeah i could bring i could i could move a little yeah oh my god look at that 1079 01:16:21,828 --> 01:16:28,188 outfit what the hell yeah is it german yeah oh wow that's a great outfit 1080 01:16:28,188 --> 01:16:35,588 oh no that's a great outfit oh wow somebody just came in with an amazing outfit 1081 01:16:35,588 --> 01:16:41,028 um all right we got to get all right that's all the time you just been there but i i did 1082 01:16:41,028 --> 01:16:48,688 you know it's a party you didn't say much um let's go the top stackers the top stackers of 1083 01:16:48,688 --> 01:16:54,308 the week kia what are the top stackers put on your hat can you put that i don't know you want 1084 01:16:54,308 --> 01:16:56,188 You want to go to Cowboys instead. 1085 01:16:56,788 --> 01:16:57,008 I do. 1086 01:16:57,248 --> 01:16:58,928 Oh, the top Cowboys of the week. 1087 01:17:02,408 --> 01:17:05,088 I got it on. 1088 01:17:05,348 --> 01:17:09,768 You got Sacred, Heidi, Discipline, Blockchain, Blue, Gray Ruby. 1089 01:17:10,828 --> 01:17:14,148 We are all Satoshi, Crypto Sensei, Scoresby. 1090 01:17:16,848 --> 01:17:17,848 Platpoint, you're 22. 1091 01:17:18,188 --> 01:17:19,168 Hey, I'm right next to EK. 1092 01:17:19,388 --> 01:17:20,428 Boom, 16 days. 1093 01:17:20,648 --> 01:17:21,888 Wow, she's moving up, dude. 1094 01:17:22,028 --> 01:17:22,648 Shout out. 1095 01:17:23,148 --> 01:17:23,988 Zap Sammy. 1096 01:17:24,308 --> 01:17:25,748 Shock Nat Shocker. 1097 01:17:27,168 --> 01:17:28,208 Billy the Kid. 1098 01:17:29,528 --> 01:17:30,868 Zero X Bitcoiner. 1099 01:17:31,468 --> 01:17:32,708 Hey, Nick, did you bring beer? 1100 01:17:32,848 --> 01:17:33,028 No. 1101 01:17:34,448 --> 01:17:35,128 Oh, you have some beer? 1102 01:17:36,408 --> 01:17:37,488 He has a little bit. 1103 01:17:39,048 --> 01:17:40,128 No, but do you have any beer here? 1104 01:17:41,948 --> 01:17:42,268 All right. 1105 01:17:42,568 --> 01:17:43,908 GMD, Crute. 1106 01:17:47,028 --> 01:17:48,068 Seth for Privacy. 1107 01:17:48,068 --> 01:17:49,508 Oh, Seth for Privacy came on. 1108 01:17:49,628 --> 01:17:51,048 Is this his first time here on Sacker News? 1109 01:17:51,708 --> 01:17:51,908 Nope. 1110 01:17:52,268 --> 01:17:52,848 Definitely not. 1111 01:17:52,848 --> 01:17:54,628 He used to make a lot of stuff. 1112 01:17:54,648 --> 01:17:55,348 I've never seen it before. 1113 01:17:56,068 --> 01:17:56,608 Dead Beef. 1114 01:17:56,808 --> 01:17:57,748 Yeah, a lot of cool posts. 1115 01:17:57,848 --> 01:17:58,528 Real Bitcoin Dog. 1116 01:17:58,708 --> 01:18:00,108 Dude, he's talking so much crap, dude. 1117 01:18:00,168 --> 01:18:00,908 Real Bitcoin Doggy. 1118 01:18:01,268 --> 01:18:02,188 You know, Real Bitcoin Dog? 1119 01:18:02,428 --> 01:18:03,848 You're talking so much crap. 1120 01:18:04,288 --> 01:18:05,388 He's talking so much crap to me. 1121 01:18:05,448 --> 01:18:05,848 I'm going to discipline. 1122 01:18:06,888 --> 01:18:07,868 I'm going to talk about this right now. 1123 01:18:07,928 --> 01:18:08,688 This is real quick. 1124 01:18:08,828 --> 01:18:10,008 I thought you were his biggest fan. 1125 01:18:10,268 --> 01:18:12,908 I am his biggest fan, but you know, Real Bitcoin Doggy? 1126 01:18:13,908 --> 01:18:14,848 You know, Real Bitcoin Dog? 1127 01:18:14,908 --> 01:18:15,748 I might be your only fan. 1128 01:18:15,808 --> 01:18:16,908 I might be your only fan, too. 1129 01:18:16,988 --> 01:18:17,548 That's all I'm saying. 1130 01:18:17,728 --> 01:18:20,348 On this table, Par's your only fan. 1131 01:18:20,348 --> 01:18:20,868 Is he keeping it real, though? 1132 01:18:21,368 --> 01:18:21,848 Dark Coin? 1133 01:18:21,848 --> 01:18:24,548 So you know, at this table, I might be your only fan too. 1134 01:18:25,268 --> 01:18:26,968 Well, Bitcoin Dog, I'm your only fan on this table. 1135 01:18:27,448 --> 01:18:28,108 Just so y'all know. 1136 01:18:29,448 --> 01:18:30,448 But undisciplined. 1137 01:18:31,168 --> 01:18:31,528 Undisciplined. 1138 01:18:32,148 --> 01:18:33,068 Undisciplined's getting upset. 1139 01:18:33,308 --> 01:18:34,448 I'm getting a little bit upset. 1140 01:18:35,028 --> 01:18:36,368 We're losers in fantasy football. 1141 01:18:37,128 --> 01:18:37,688 That's okay. 1142 01:18:38,728 --> 01:18:40,448 But slow down. 1143 01:18:40,668 --> 01:18:41,228 That's all I'm saying. 1144 01:18:41,948 --> 01:18:43,048 Write some stories or something. 1145 01:18:44,848 --> 01:18:46,728 Anyway, Keon, have you read a story yet? 1146 01:18:48,168 --> 01:18:48,928 Which story? 1147 01:18:49,068 --> 01:18:50,788 The one that you finished top three? 1148 01:18:50,788 --> 01:18:53,808 Well, it's like the only thing that you read that we cover on the show. 1149 01:18:53,868 --> 01:18:55,368 So I figured I'll just let you have that. 1150 01:18:56,668 --> 01:18:57,668 It's like that. 1151 01:18:58,228 --> 01:19:00,288 I'm just going to keep bringing it up because it's reoccurring. 1152 01:19:00,548 --> 01:19:02,088 I tried to get in real Bitcoin doggy. 1153 01:19:02,208 --> 01:19:04,748 You see, you see me trying for you at this table. 1154 01:19:05,668 --> 01:19:06,828 He doesn't watch the show. 1155 01:19:06,908 --> 01:19:08,108 Oh man, I had some hair in. 1156 01:19:08,328 --> 01:19:08,588 Yes. 1157 01:19:09,268 --> 01:19:09,588 Anyway. 1158 01:19:11,048 --> 01:19:12,328 Just, I want to bring that up. 1159 01:19:12,528 --> 01:19:13,588 It's been bothering me all week. 1160 01:19:13,788 --> 01:19:15,088 Socks, sucks this year. 1161 01:19:15,708 --> 01:19:16,028 Sucks. 1162 01:19:16,108 --> 01:19:17,368 What do you think socks was for Halloween? 1163 01:19:19,368 --> 01:19:20,228 I don't know. 1164 01:19:20,228 --> 01:19:21,388 Socks, where were you for Halloween? 1165 01:19:21,488 --> 01:19:21,928 Hot Socks. 1166 01:19:22,088 --> 01:19:22,548 Tell us. 1167 01:19:22,948 --> 01:19:23,708 Tell us in the comments. 1168 01:19:24,028 --> 01:19:27,468 He put a little jack-o'-lantern in the stacker saloon. 1169 01:19:27,688 --> 01:19:28,208 I miss Socks. 1170 01:19:28,208 --> 01:19:28,668 I saw that. 1171 01:19:28,728 --> 01:19:29,248 I miss Socks. 1172 01:19:29,348 --> 01:19:30,148 Hopefully he can come back. 1173 01:19:31,028 --> 01:19:31,408 Peter Todd? 1174 01:19:31,468 --> 01:19:32,268 What do you think Peter Todd was? 1175 01:19:32,268 --> 01:19:32,868 Where did he go? 1176 01:19:33,068 --> 01:19:34,548 Oh, you mean back here in Austin? 1177 01:19:37,688 --> 01:19:38,048 Yeah. 1178 01:19:38,448 --> 01:19:41,548 Waxster and DP0604. 1179 01:19:41,788 --> 01:19:42,368 That's it. 1180 01:19:42,448 --> 01:19:43,608 That's Top Cowboys. 1181 01:19:45,208 --> 01:19:47,768 I was going to cover the comments, but vibes are high right now, 1182 01:19:47,768 --> 01:19:49,168 and I don't want to cover the comments. 1183 01:19:50,228 --> 01:19:52,868 Kia, what are you doing this weekend? 1184 01:19:54,368 --> 01:19:57,348 I'm probably wearing this costume. 1185 01:19:58,948 --> 01:20:02,508 And I need to clean my house. 1186 01:20:02,608 --> 01:20:03,248 It's a mess. 1187 01:20:03,448 --> 01:20:03,688 Really? 1188 01:20:04,208 --> 01:20:05,368 Yeah, I've let it kind of go. 1189 01:20:06,748 --> 01:20:08,908 That's probably why I turned into a cockroach. 1190 01:20:09,048 --> 01:20:12,848 It's because I've just been leaving all kinds of stuff around my house. 1191 01:20:12,908 --> 01:20:14,528 Let me see that. 1192 01:20:14,628 --> 01:20:15,228 I'll put that on. 1193 01:20:16,228 --> 01:20:17,048 He'll do it for you. 1194 01:20:17,148 --> 01:20:18,208 I'll do it for you so you can see. 1195 01:20:19,088 --> 01:20:20,168 But he's going to take it off. 1196 01:20:20,228 --> 01:20:26,628 later no i just like are you a christmas elf just inches i was looking forward to this year because 1197 01:20:26,628 --> 01:20:30,228 it was like the one year where a car might actually wear a costume and now it's just my 1198 01:20:30,228 --> 01:20:35,068 bell bottoms didn't come in that's all it was checking out of it and now he's howard stern 1199 01:20:35,068 --> 01:20:39,228 somebody said um uh you look like that meme will you put your hands on though 1200 01:20:39,228 --> 01:20:49,328 please oh the hands with the hands i'm taking requests for costume stuff now anyways what are 1201 01:20:49,328 --> 01:20:57,628 do this weekend play poet well i am uh gonna look at the moon at some point oh you're gonna wait for 1202 01:20:57,628 --> 01:21:02,748 the atlas thing just gonna look at the moon you're gonna look directly why are you gonna with those 1203 01:21:02,748 --> 01:21:07,528 glasses is uh they have like a secret thing that happens i'm gonna look at the moon i'm gonna wear 1204 01:21:07,528 --> 01:21:17,488 these glasses and i'm going to do uh some other stuff why are you looking at the moon just because 1205 01:21:17,488 --> 01:21:19,388 it's nice. It's beautiful. Somebody took a photo 1206 01:21:19,388 --> 01:21:21,148 of it and they posted it the other day. 1207 01:21:21,468 --> 01:21:22,888 Did they really? Where was it at? 1208 01:21:23,388 --> 01:21:24,128 I can't remember who did. 1209 01:21:24,868 --> 01:21:26,608 You feel like you haven't seen it in a while. 1210 01:21:26,708 --> 01:21:28,728 Yeah, just got to get reacquainted with the moon. 1211 01:21:28,968 --> 01:21:29,628 I always look at the moon. 1212 01:21:30,668 --> 01:21:31,668 I miss the moon. 1213 01:21:32,588 --> 01:21:35,268 Who posted that? It was somebody that... 1214 01:21:35,268 --> 01:21:36,468 Yeah, I saw it the other day. 1215 01:21:36,768 --> 01:21:37,788 They were showing off their telescope. 1216 01:21:37,788 --> 01:21:39,068 Was it Papa Bland? 1217 01:21:39,688 --> 01:21:40,788 No, it wasn't. 1218 01:21:40,948 --> 01:21:43,508 It was the picture room. 1219 01:21:44,108 --> 01:21:45,688 The Stacker Saloon, baby! 1220 01:21:45,688 --> 01:21:48,188 Wow, dude. 1221 01:21:48,268 --> 01:21:49,908 Darth is coming in hard today. 1222 01:21:53,328 --> 01:21:56,908 Yeah, got some Stacker Saloon stuff going on here. 1223 01:21:58,028 --> 01:21:59,388 A lot of crazy stuff. 1224 01:21:59,448 --> 01:22:01,168 You never know where you're going to see in the Stacker Saloon. 1225 01:22:01,528 --> 01:22:02,028 Have you been? 1226 01:22:02,228 --> 01:22:04,088 No, you haven't been zombified yet. 1227 01:22:04,948 --> 01:22:06,488 I haven't been zombified. 1228 01:22:06,848 --> 01:22:07,488 We have a zombie. 1229 01:22:07,488 --> 01:22:10,868 I know who took photos of the moon. 1230 01:22:11,088 --> 01:22:13,368 It was the hiker. 1231 01:22:13,368 --> 01:22:15,368 That's the outfit I was about to go for. 1232 01:22:15,368 --> 01:22:16,368 Nice last name. 1233 01:22:16,368 --> 01:22:17,368 D.O. 1234 01:22:17,368 --> 01:22:18,368 Ilma. 1235 01:22:18,368 --> 01:22:22,368 Yeah, they have a telescope for me to take photos of the moon, so they're really good photos. 1236 01:22:22,368 --> 01:22:23,368 Yeah. 1237 01:22:27,368 --> 01:22:28,368 You'll see it, yeah? 1238 01:22:28,368 --> 01:22:29,368 You'll see it? 1239 01:22:29,368 --> 01:22:31,368 I can't see anything. 1240 01:22:31,368 --> 01:22:33,368 Oh yeah, you look just like him. 1241 01:22:33,368 --> 01:22:34,368 Yeah, just... 1242 01:22:34,368 --> 01:22:35,368 Yeah. 1243 01:22:35,368 --> 01:22:36,368 Are you gonna see it? 1244 01:22:36,368 --> 01:22:38,368 No, that's not big. 1245 01:22:38,368 --> 01:22:40,368 Yeah. Have you always been him? 1246 01:22:40,368 --> 01:23:10,348 I don't want to live my life in the day. 1247 01:23:10,368 --> 01:23:15,308 I don't want to say it publicly, but the boss is right. 1248 01:23:20,208 --> 01:23:21,268 Just let it sit there. 1249 01:23:22,788 --> 01:23:24,188 Think long and hard about that, Stacker. 1250 01:23:32,128 --> 01:23:32,968 See this one? 1251 01:23:34,088 --> 01:23:34,728 What do you think about that? 1252 01:23:34,868 --> 01:23:35,008 Yeah. 1253 01:23:35,648 --> 01:23:36,188 Is that true? 1254 01:23:37,568 --> 01:23:38,348 That's Stacker News. 1255 01:23:38,348 --> 01:23:44,068 i don't i don't is he talking about i think he was yeah uh i don't know why 1256 01:23:44,068 --> 01:23:48,448 it feels that way so i can't really respond to it if i knew i could 1257 01:23:48,448 --> 01:23:52,548 i would probably have this is a doc stock list what is this 1258 01:23:53,408 --> 01:23:58,808 and soccer saloon's crazy today anyways um that's all we got 1259 01:23:58,808 --> 01:24:02,548 backers have yourself a great weekend keon zap