1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:20,720 Live from Planned Lab in Austin, Texas, this is Stacker News Live! 2 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:24,520 Three years? 3 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:25,400 Hello, ladies and gentlemen. 4 00:00:25,420 --> 00:00:28,740 Welcome back to another exciting episode of Stacker News Live with my BFFs Brandon and 5 00:00:28,740 --> 00:00:29,220 Keon. 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:31,600 How you doing, Brandon? 7 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:32,020 What's up? 8 00:00:32,020 --> 00:00:34,100 Welcome to the crazy show called SNL. 9 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:34,900 How's it going? 10 00:00:34,900 --> 00:00:35,740 You should come closer. 11 00:00:35,920 --> 00:00:36,480 Come closer. 12 00:00:36,620 --> 00:00:37,400 Let me scoot in. 13 00:00:37,480 --> 00:00:38,100 Yeah, we're going to... 14 00:00:38,100 --> 00:00:38,860 All friends here. 15 00:00:38,960 --> 00:00:39,540 We're all friends. 16 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:40,500 There we go. 17 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:40,800 Cheers. 18 00:00:41,260 --> 00:00:41,520 Cheers. 19 00:00:41,980 --> 00:00:42,160 Cheers. 20 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:42,440 Sorry. 21 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:43,280 Sorry, Keon. 22 00:00:43,500 --> 00:00:43,980 He's not working. 23 00:00:43,980 --> 00:00:44,340 It's okay. 24 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:45,100 This is great. 25 00:00:45,260 --> 00:00:46,760 Bitcoin Pleddeb bought us some McConaughey. 26 00:00:47,060 --> 00:00:47,800 Just before the show. 27 00:00:48,460 --> 00:00:49,500 The McConaughey's. 28 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:51,720 Oh, that's good. 29 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:54,100 Cool. 30 00:00:54,220 --> 00:00:55,080 Brandon, how was your week? 31 00:00:55,700 --> 00:00:56,620 It was outstanding. 32 00:00:56,620 --> 00:00:59,980 You know, anytime I get to come down here and finish off the week with you, 33 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:01,680 You guys, it's a good week, man. 34 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,060 So, excited to be here. 35 00:01:04,120 --> 00:01:05,360 Stacker News Live, man. 36 00:01:06,620 --> 00:01:07,480 There we go. 37 00:01:07,740 --> 00:01:08,260 I love it. 38 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:09,520 Big time show here. 39 00:01:09,580 --> 00:01:10,140 Here we go. 40 00:01:10,220 --> 00:01:10,720 Oh, yeah. 41 00:01:10,740 --> 00:01:13,060 I think we have three subscribers now, Car. 42 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:14,440 It's good. 43 00:01:14,600 --> 00:01:15,600 It's getting pretty big, man. 44 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,060 I mean, we're not Green Candle big yet. 45 00:01:17,140 --> 00:01:18,260 I mean, we're not Green Candle big. 46 00:01:18,340 --> 00:01:20,160 You guys got some dedicated fans, man. 47 00:01:20,180 --> 00:01:21,240 I mean, they are dedicated. 48 00:01:21,860 --> 00:01:23,120 They all hate me. 49 00:01:23,340 --> 00:01:24,600 But they love Keon, though. 50 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:25,520 So, that's good. 51 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:26,780 No, I think they hate both of us. 52 00:01:26,980 --> 00:01:27,520 Oh, cool. 53 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:28,600 They just hate watch? 54 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:28,960 Yeah. 55 00:01:28,960 --> 00:01:31,580 We just try to make the podcast as bad as possible. 56 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,320 And we got a lot of people who still watch it. 57 00:01:34,740 --> 00:01:37,600 Who might like us, but then the people who hate us, they stick around. 58 00:01:37,940 --> 00:01:39,360 Yeah, the people that hate us definitely watch it. 59 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:41,240 And they hate watch it, which is cool. 60 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,440 I love them, though. 61 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:43,560 Call me. 62 00:01:44,580 --> 00:01:47,040 We'll eventually serve the Mads and get them back. 63 00:01:49,020 --> 00:01:52,040 They just want to see how crazy we can get. 64 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:52,680 That's what it is. 65 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:53,780 Keon, how was your week? 66 00:01:54,460 --> 00:01:55,200 Retweet all this stuff. 67 00:01:55,220 --> 00:01:56,020 I think it was pretty good. 68 00:01:56,020 --> 00:01:59,000 I don't think anything happened that I remember. 69 00:01:59,260 --> 00:02:00,260 Yeah, it was pretty normal. 70 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:02,360 I went to dinner last night. 71 00:02:02,380 --> 00:02:04,420 I had a fancy cheeseburger. 72 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:08,540 I had a blueberry lard, 73 00:02:09,680 --> 00:02:12,120 blueberry and whipped lard with bread. 74 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:12,860 That was pretty good. 75 00:02:12,900 --> 00:02:13,240 What is it? 76 00:02:13,300 --> 00:02:13,980 Whipped lard? 77 00:02:14,600 --> 00:02:17,980 Isn't lard just like slang for, you know, 78 00:02:18,040 --> 00:02:19,640 what comes out the rear end or what? 79 00:02:20,200 --> 00:02:20,500 No. 80 00:02:20,920 --> 00:02:23,040 Lard, well, I mean, it could be. 81 00:02:23,040 --> 00:02:25,760 I mean, if you're asking me if I know for certain 82 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:32,640 what it is no i don't but i do i'm pretty sure that lard means it's like the fat of a pig ah okay 83 00:02:32,640 --> 00:02:39,000 but it's blueberry that sounds interesting it was it was it was tasty it was like you can imagine 84 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:43,980 blueberry mixed with butter but it was mixed with large and i was that's just that just that was 85 00:02:43,980 --> 00:02:48,920 like an appetizer thing so it shows you how kind of weird the menu was or interesting the menu was 86 00:02:48,920 --> 00:02:50,460 This place said only local stuff. 87 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:58,640 And then we ordered, like, a local natural wine, which was also interesting. 88 00:02:59,640 --> 00:03:01,720 I don't think I've had a natural wine before. 89 00:03:03,220 --> 00:03:04,440 But that was it. 90 00:03:04,500 --> 00:03:05,300 That was my fun. 91 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,700 That was my one day of the month I go out. 92 00:03:11,020 --> 00:03:12,820 Yeah, me, I've just been catching up, man. 93 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:14,340 It's like South by. 94 00:03:14,420 --> 00:03:17,940 I finally caught up with all my work on Thursday, and I still have, like, more work to do. 95 00:03:17,940 --> 00:03:21,000 But, yeah, we're going to take the weekend off this weekend, though. 96 00:03:21,140 --> 00:03:22,320 I'm just ready to. 97 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:24,200 What do you do when you take the weekend off? 98 00:03:24,340 --> 00:03:25,080 Just hang out with family. 99 00:03:25,260 --> 00:03:26,560 Just give us, like, a little. 100 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:27,780 Just hang out with family. 101 00:03:27,860 --> 00:03:28,360 A little script. 102 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:29,340 Okay, you hang out with family. 103 00:03:29,940 --> 00:03:34,320 But, yeah, I'm just really looking forward to just having a day off. 104 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:35,540 This could be good. 105 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:39,680 We have a lot to cover today, by the way, Snackers. 106 00:03:39,980 --> 00:03:43,100 It's been a crazy week. 107 00:03:43,620 --> 00:03:46,500 If you haven't been paying attention in Bitcoin or in the AI space. 108 00:03:46,500 --> 00:03:47,580 But let me look. 109 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,160 Stacker and boom. 110 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:49,900 Show up, baby. 111 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:50,660 Every time. 112 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:53,160 Yeah, if you type the complete word out. 113 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,840 You just got to type in Stacker and. 114 00:03:54,940 --> 00:03:55,360 That's it. 115 00:03:56,460 --> 00:03:58,540 So if you've ever seen this crazy show, it's called Stacker News Live. 116 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:03,800 We cover the top three stories on Bitcoin every week on Stacker.News, the front page of Bitcoin. 117 00:04:03,980 --> 00:04:06,080 I'm going to keep saying that, even though Coop doesn't like it. 118 00:04:06,500 --> 00:04:11,720 Last week's most popular video, believe it or not, was this one, dude. 119 00:04:11,840 --> 00:04:13,280 The Peter Thiel one. 120 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:16,960 People were, look, it started blowing up like a day ago. 121 00:04:17,380 --> 00:04:19,100 Wait, scroll up here for a second. 122 00:04:19,420 --> 00:04:22,380 I thought, did I see 14K views? 123 00:04:22,620 --> 00:04:22,880 No. 124 00:04:22,940 --> 00:04:23,820 What? 125 00:04:24,340 --> 00:04:26,040 Has it got 14K views? 126 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:26,780 Yeah. 127 00:04:26,860 --> 00:04:27,180 That's stupid. 128 00:04:27,780 --> 00:04:29,460 That's a stupid video, though, dude. 129 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,460 Like, I don't know why people keep commenting on it. 130 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:36,520 We were at TabConf, and we completely misinterpreted an article that we covered, 131 00:04:36,740 --> 00:04:40,920 and we got everything wrong about what's going on with graphing. 132 00:04:41,540 --> 00:04:42,860 And that's, yeah. 133 00:04:42,860 --> 00:04:45,400 That's our most popular video, though. 134 00:04:45,540 --> 00:04:45,900 Look at that. 135 00:04:45,900 --> 00:04:46,920 You can see, like, this one. 136 00:04:47,280 --> 00:04:48,060 The next one I wanted. 137 00:04:48,180 --> 00:04:50,000 Hey, Karin, Keanu, we're wrong about this. 138 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:50,220 You guys are idiots. 139 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:52,320 They were like, these guys are dumb. 140 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:57,080 Yeah, we had the Topher push and then the Tapconf push on that one. 141 00:04:57,260 --> 00:04:58,560 So that's probably why it blew up. 142 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:00,140 We also have the hats in the front. 143 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,560 We should do that every episode, I think. 144 00:05:03,060 --> 00:05:03,800 We're not going to do that. 145 00:05:03,840 --> 00:05:04,500 It's a good thing. 146 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,580 I mean, literally, it was a good thing that Scorsese put all those hats right there. 147 00:05:07,640 --> 00:05:08,720 Because had we not, we wouldn't. 148 00:05:09,220 --> 00:05:10,160 I mean, 14,000. 149 00:05:10,160 --> 00:05:11,120 14,000 views, man. 150 00:05:11,120 --> 00:05:13,040 Who knows what caused it? 151 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:15,960 That's a good video right there. 152 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,660 It's also, too, I wasn't talking. 153 00:05:17,780 --> 00:05:18,640 Look, I gave the mic away. 154 00:05:18,740 --> 00:05:21,380 So maybe if I do less talking, that'll probably help. 155 00:05:21,840 --> 00:05:25,540 Anyway, so just wanted to share, like the Antichrist video by Peter Thiel. 156 00:05:26,820 --> 00:05:27,560 Dude, look at that. 157 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:28,980 No one's talking about it. 158 00:05:28,980 --> 00:05:31,660 We got comments we got to respond to in those, by the way. 159 00:05:32,540 --> 00:05:33,260 Oh, that's right. 160 00:05:33,340 --> 00:05:33,720 I'm the guy. 161 00:05:34,040 --> 00:05:35,480 There's a lot of comments in there. 162 00:05:35,820 --> 00:05:36,540 It's wild. 163 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:37,480 I saw some of them. 164 00:05:37,580 --> 00:05:40,380 If you're a stacker, you probably shouldn't watch that clip. 165 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:41,960 Why? 166 00:05:41,960 --> 00:05:43,160 Actually, you should probably unsubscribe. 167 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:45,480 Yes, as we say, unsubscribe. 168 00:05:45,740 --> 00:05:47,520 I think we got some unsubscribers this summer. 169 00:05:47,520 --> 00:05:48,840 They keep subscribing back. 170 00:05:48,840 --> 00:05:49,640 They were at 640 last week. 171 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:52,180 What they're doing is unsubscribing and then they subscribe back. 172 00:05:52,380 --> 00:05:53,880 Have you ever seen that, Brandon, on your channel? 173 00:05:53,980 --> 00:05:55,540 Where they unsubscribe and then they subscribe back? 174 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:58,500 Unsubscribe, resubscribe, and then unsubscribe and resubscribe again. 175 00:05:58,700 --> 00:06:00,060 I think it helps with the algorithm. 176 00:06:00,400 --> 00:06:00,740 I don't know. 177 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:02,980 It counts as two subscriptions. 178 00:06:02,980 --> 00:06:06,960 I just thought it was a bunch of autists in Bitcoin that are just doing tiz things. 179 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:07,480 Yeah. 180 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:08,260 That's what I thought it was. 181 00:06:08,260 --> 00:06:13,140 I think you don't understand autism, but it's maybe a different. 182 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:13,540 Hey. 183 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:15,540 Not worth talking about right now. 184 00:06:15,540 --> 00:06:16,240 It's not worth talking about. 185 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,380 Anyways, we're going to cover the top three stories. 186 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,580 Let me see where's the one I just posted right now. 187 00:06:21,700 --> 00:06:22,440 Oh, there it goes. 188 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:23,080 Cool. 189 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:29,540 The first, the number three top story this week is the case for a conservative Bitcoin client. 190 00:06:29,540 --> 00:06:31,480 This is from Jimmy Song, longtime stacker. 191 00:06:32,100 --> 00:06:34,680 March 23rd, 25 comments, 9,514 sets. 192 00:06:34,780 --> 00:06:35,300 Key on. 193 00:06:36,380 --> 00:06:36,860 What's this? 194 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:37,800 I've never heard of this before. 195 00:06:38,260 --> 00:06:43,520 you did you heard about it this week we talked you and I talked about it just to let people in 196 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:50,160 on the kayfabe that Cara likes to do but it looks like Jimmy Song Samson Mao I think that's how you 197 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:59,720 say his name and who's the other person oh crap there's like three main people I only know Jimmy 198 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:04,360 Song on there I don't think he mentions it in this one it's on the website I think though 199 00:07:04,360 --> 00:07:05,640 It's small, a bore. 200 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:06,200 Oh, here we go. 201 00:07:06,280 --> 00:07:07,040 John Ratcliffe. 202 00:07:07,480 --> 00:07:13,380 All three of them started production ready, which is 5013C, nonprofit. 203 00:07:13,700 --> 00:07:14,820 Oh, it looks like Parker Lewis, too. 204 00:07:14,940 --> 00:07:16,420 For some reason, it's not mentioned in this. 205 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:17,160 Oh, no, it is. 206 00:07:17,220 --> 00:07:18,340 I just skipped over Parker Lewis. 207 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,280 I'm sorry, Parker Lewis. 208 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,700 You're like a middle child in this blog post. 209 00:07:24,620 --> 00:07:32,000 But, yeah, they're starting a production ready 5013C nonprofit to create a fork of Bitcoin 210 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:39,580 core that is more conservative. And by conservative, they mean conserving. And by conserving, 211 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:47,700 they mean that they don't make changes that don't have nearly unanimous approval or consensus 212 00:07:47,700 --> 00:07:55,440 in the community. That is like their definition of it, with an emphasis on Bitcoin being for money, 213 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,060 allowing for relay policy 214 00:08:00,060 --> 00:08:02,940 configuration I think is another 215 00:08:02,940 --> 00:08:05,580 way that they're defining conservative 216 00:08:05,580 --> 00:08:11,800 I think of what else they said in here that was interesting 217 00:08:11,800 --> 00:08:15,880 they don't yet have code I think they're in the money raising 218 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:19,700 stage like org building stage looking for developers 219 00:08:19,700 --> 00:08:23,880 I suspect they might find quite a few 220 00:08:23,880 --> 00:08:29,380 of them who are just interested in, you know, being a significant part of a Bitcoin implementation 221 00:08:29,380 --> 00:08:33,800 and not having to like work their way into an existing hierarchy. 222 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:41,160 Yeah, that's kind of, I think that's a gist of it. 223 00:08:41,200 --> 00:08:43,220 I don't think I, I don't think I missed a whole bunch. 224 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,000 Jimmy will be leading the education efforts around it. 225 00:08:47,580 --> 00:08:52,080 I imagine Samson will be sort of like influence and money. 226 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:55,380 Parker Lewis might be doing the same 227 00:08:55,380 --> 00:08:56,520 I don't know John 228 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:58,140 do you guys know John Ratcliffe? 229 00:08:58,920 --> 00:08:59,620 I don't 230 00:08:59,620 --> 00:09:01,640 sounds familiar to me 231 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:03,900 so probably an important person 232 00:09:03,900 --> 00:09:06,500 that I would recognize the work 233 00:09:06,500 --> 00:09:07,620 maybe but not the name 234 00:09:07,620 --> 00:09:10,060 yeah 235 00:09:10,060 --> 00:09:11,580 we had the top comment from 236 00:09:11,580 --> 00:09:14,500 he said I think I'd write up 237 00:09:14,500 --> 00:09:15,780 mission statement for Bitcoin Core 238 00:09:15,780 --> 00:09:16,860 would sound very similar 239 00:09:16,860 --> 00:09:18,840 I read somewhere else that you'd want to 240 00:09:18,840 --> 00:09:19,960 basically provide long term support 241 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:21,180 for older core versions 242 00:09:21,180 --> 00:09:24,640 If you have the resources to do that, why not do that on Core itself? 243 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:27,220 The reason we offer backports, the three versions, 244 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,300 is mostly that we don't have the resources to do more. 245 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,120 The further you go back, the more difficult. 246 00:09:31,760 --> 00:09:33,540 Is he answering himself? I don't understand. 247 00:09:34,320 --> 00:09:37,060 And then Optimism came in and said, why not do that on Core itself? 248 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:40,340 Optimism said, because on Core there are too many camps to please. 249 00:09:40,860 --> 00:09:44,100 And we've all seen that kind of insanity that happens when you tell a single camp. 250 00:09:45,660 --> 00:09:49,420 And then Jimmy Song actually came in, because Jimmy Song is a snacker. 251 00:09:49,420 --> 00:09:50,940 and he said, 252 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:51,860 Optimus said, 253 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:52,900 thank you for explaining my question. 254 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:54,360 I didn't want to bother you with conserving 255 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:55,520 because Jimmy actually posted this. 256 00:09:56,140 --> 00:09:56,680 And then Jimmy said, 257 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,600 we're talking to some right now, 258 00:09:58,700 --> 00:10:00,740 but our goal is a large and dedicated group 259 00:10:00,740 --> 00:10:03,120 as far as like how many devs 260 00:10:03,120 --> 00:10:04,400 do you plan on having? 261 00:10:08,180 --> 00:10:09,160 And yeah, 262 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:10,900 then everybody jumped in there. 263 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:12,840 A lot of people got outlawed here at the bottom. 264 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:14,420 Those are all bots actually. 265 00:10:14,420 --> 00:10:14,820 Oh, okay. 266 00:10:14,960 --> 00:10:16,460 They got properly down tapped. 267 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:16,920 Oh, okay. 268 00:10:17,180 --> 00:10:18,400 And then, yeah. 269 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:26,480 And then I wanted to bring up another one because I think this is all like connected from like a just like from a news angle is Brink. 270 00:10:26,560 --> 00:10:32,940 So Brink also released their engineering impact report where I think Schmitty laid out everything that he has going on. 271 00:10:33,060 --> 00:10:37,980 Obviously, this is this is important because this is the other implementation of Bitcoin Core. 272 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:45,860 And then the other thing is John Attack also was on Nut Solven Homes Bitcoin podcast. 273 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:46,360 Canoe. 274 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:46,980 Canoe. 275 00:10:46,980 --> 00:10:47,400 I'm sorry. 276 00:10:47,580 --> 00:10:47,800 Sorry. 277 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,380 Sorry, Knute. 278 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:51,640 I don't watch stuff. 279 00:10:52,900 --> 00:10:54,700 Mostly just startup stuff. 280 00:10:54,700 --> 00:10:54,860 That was awesome. 281 00:10:56,260 --> 00:10:56,860 What did I say? 282 00:10:56,940 --> 00:10:57,120 Nut? 283 00:10:57,280 --> 00:10:57,620 Yeah. 284 00:10:57,760 --> 00:10:58,240 The sound looks like nut. 285 00:10:58,240 --> 00:10:59,540 I mean, the K could be silent. 286 00:10:59,780 --> 00:11:01,980 That is an English thing. 287 00:11:02,460 --> 00:11:03,120 Thank you from Brandon. 288 00:11:03,620 --> 00:11:07,100 And then so John has been kind of like on a speaking tour. 289 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,420 This is a really good podcast to watch. 290 00:11:09,420 --> 00:11:13,860 But what was interesting here is like Keon kind of laid out how he felt about the whole thing. 291 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:17,960 And then surprisingly, Schmitty, which he is a stacker as well, too. 292 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:21,080 came on here and said some things. 293 00:11:21,080 --> 00:11:24,180 Kion, do you want to talk about this exchange? 294 00:11:24,180 --> 00:11:28,120 I was mostly excited that John was going around and speaking more. 295 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:31,880 I think one of the side effects of people taking grant money 296 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:36,300 is they kind of pull away from the public 297 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:38,380 and communicating with the public regularly 298 00:11:38,380 --> 00:11:40,900 because they don't have to, because they have this org in front 299 00:11:40,900 --> 00:11:43,280 of them and they get money from the org. 300 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:45,720 With independent developers, they often 301 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:47,400 kind of don't have someone to speak for them, 302 00:11:47,400 --> 00:11:50,660 so they'll usually create somewhat of an online presence in a brand. 303 00:11:51,320 --> 00:11:55,080 But I've noticed that since the grants started really kicking off, 304 00:11:55,260 --> 00:11:56,760 we've had a lot of developers pull back. 305 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,400 And maybe that's for other reasons, I don't know, 306 00:11:58,460 --> 00:12:00,340 but there's a lot of correlation. 307 00:12:01,220 --> 00:12:03,780 And that's in line with what I kind of said in that comment. 308 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:04,980 Welcome to the Bitcoin... 309 00:12:04,980 --> 00:12:07,500 You know, Bitcoin's culture, I feel like, is in a weird place, 310 00:12:07,500 --> 00:12:10,580 especially around the core implementation. 311 00:12:11,800 --> 00:12:15,740 And it coincides with a lot of these non-profits coming online 312 00:12:15,740 --> 00:12:20,360 and having a lot more money and giving out an unprecedented number of grants 313 00:12:20,360 --> 00:12:23,080 and an unprecedented number of developers are funded by them. 314 00:12:23,860 --> 00:12:28,740 And I think it's worth questioning whether it's more than correlation 315 00:12:28,740 --> 00:12:31,700 and actually there might be some causal relationship between that. 316 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:34,840 And that's mostly what I said in my comment. 317 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,800 And then Schmitty, I said some other things that were sort of more inflammatory 318 00:12:38,800 --> 00:12:44,480 about my sort of personal view of non-profits 319 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:47,580 and how their incentives tend to get pretty nasty 320 00:12:47,580 --> 00:12:50,100 and warp into kind of weird things. 321 00:12:50,580 --> 00:12:52,280 Status gains, politicization, corruption. 322 00:12:53,320 --> 00:12:55,060 Generally, I consider them weapons of influence. 323 00:12:55,180 --> 00:12:57,020 They're often explicitly weapons of influence. 324 00:12:57,220 --> 00:12:59,500 You know, weapons of influence for good influence 325 00:12:59,500 --> 00:13:01,960 is what their kind of, I don't know, 326 00:13:02,060 --> 00:13:03,820 their conduct documents will state 327 00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:05,160 or their mission documents will state, 328 00:13:05,160 --> 00:13:09,260 but they often get to define what's good, 329 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,740 and that's often can be self-interested. 330 00:13:13,460 --> 00:13:16,280 And Schmitty's like, well, a nonprofit can do all these things 331 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:20,620 to try to counteract those, and I don't disagree with that. 332 00:13:20,700 --> 00:13:23,220 I actually think Schmitty is excellent. 333 00:13:23,580 --> 00:13:26,480 I got to see him in the filter debate at the Bitcoin Commons. 334 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:31,240 He handled all kinds of, I don't know, 335 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:34,480 he took arrows basically for core in the op return. 336 00:13:35,160 --> 00:13:38,580 and didn't, like, return them in any way. 337 00:13:39,280 --> 00:13:42,500 He was mostly, like, he mostly explained matter-of-factly what happened 338 00:13:42,500 --> 00:13:46,640 and then heard out every opposing point of view 339 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:51,320 and in many ways agreed with the point of view where he thought it was right. 340 00:13:51,820 --> 00:13:54,780 It was just exactly what you'd hope of, you know, 341 00:13:54,840 --> 00:14:00,820 someone who's leading one of these organizations to be very impartial 342 00:14:00,820 --> 00:14:06,100 and explaining clearly what's going on. 343 00:14:06,360 --> 00:14:07,220 Anyway, it's good. 344 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:08,520 I had a good back and forth. 345 00:14:08,660 --> 00:14:10,380 I thought it was a great back and forth. 346 00:14:10,740 --> 00:14:12,500 I thought that was a really interesting back and forth. 347 00:14:13,560 --> 00:14:16,980 I think for me, just seeing Jimmy, who's a stacker, 348 00:14:17,120 --> 00:14:18,700 and Schmitty, who's a stacker, on here, 349 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:22,740 talking to the people that run these nodes, 350 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:24,000 it's just a good thing. 351 00:14:24,900 --> 00:14:27,860 Brandon, I'll ask you, what does this mean to you? 352 00:14:27,860 --> 00:14:32,340 Because you're a totally different segment of the Bitcoin ecosystem. 353 00:14:32,660 --> 00:14:35,220 How do you see this from your lens? 354 00:14:35,660 --> 00:14:40,080 Yeah, I mean, I think more people just need to be out there and creating kind of like, 355 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:45,820 you know, Kion's saying here, I think just more people need to be more public facing. 356 00:14:45,960 --> 00:14:49,740 I know that that is kind of, I guess, a security concern. 357 00:14:49,900 --> 00:14:54,060 But I think it's, you know, you never know how like a piece of content or video 358 00:14:54,060 --> 00:14:59,080 or something like that can really spark some idea, inspire somebody, 359 00:14:59,660 --> 00:15:00,960 you know, all these different things. 360 00:15:01,140 --> 00:15:05,360 So I think seeing more devs getting on podcasts I think is definitely better, 361 00:15:05,860 --> 00:15:10,700 especially for, like, the long-term, I guess we'll say health. 362 00:15:11,220 --> 00:15:15,300 The one crazy thing, though, is, I mean, like, you go to the beginning of this podcast, 363 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,600 like, I think in the first, like, two seconds we get a nip slip from this guy, man. 364 00:15:19,600 --> 00:15:22,140 Like, I mean, what are we doing here? 365 00:15:22,140 --> 00:15:24,260 I mean, come on, man. 366 00:15:24,280 --> 00:15:25,500 Have you never hung out with developers? 367 00:15:25,940 --> 00:15:26,800 Yeah, I mean. 368 00:15:27,140 --> 00:15:27,740 Topless podcast. 369 00:15:27,740 --> 00:15:29,900 We're getting a nip slip right away. 370 00:15:30,100 --> 00:15:30,980 I mean, come on, dude. 371 00:15:31,040 --> 00:15:32,460 This is a kid's show out here. 372 00:15:33,120 --> 00:15:34,880 But, no, I mean, I think it's good. 373 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:42,600 And, I mean, to be honest, like, back on the Parker Lewis and what Jimmy Song's doing, 374 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:49,740 I mean, I don't know if I really, like, I'm not really, I guess, privy to comment on this. 375 00:15:49,740 --> 00:15:53,640 I don't really know and kind of fully understand what's going on. 376 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:59,280 I haven't really been too in the weeds of like the BIP 110 arguments or anything like that. 377 00:16:01,020 --> 00:16:07,300 It seems like this is just kind of a lot of, I don't know, the way I view a lot of this stuff is at the end of the day, 378 00:16:07,380 --> 00:16:11,040 when Bitcoin's price is kind of stagnated or we're in a bear market, 379 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:17,600 Bitcoiners in general get a little bored and they want to argue about just like things that will settle itself out in the long run. 380 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:21,180 and I don't really know too much about the dev side of it. 381 00:16:21,380 --> 00:16:26,120 So I feel like this is kind of one of those things, but I don't know. 382 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:32,160 I mean, maybe that's throwing stones at something, but I don't really, yeah. 383 00:16:32,500 --> 00:16:36,040 It's hard for me to get behind something like this, if that makes sense. 384 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:41,780 I mean, since the early days of Bitcoin, people have been pushing for more than one implementation of Bitcoin 385 00:16:41,780 --> 00:16:46,140 just because it is more diversity and is more resilient. 386 00:16:47,060 --> 00:16:54,140 If we all had the same genetics and a disease came out that was particularly bad for those genes, 387 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,440 we would all die and there would be no one left. 388 00:16:56,900 --> 00:16:58,420 And so the same idea with implementations, 389 00:16:58,740 --> 00:17:02,120 but then there have been counter-arguments and realities to that 390 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:11,560 where it's very hard to keep consensus code consistent across several implementations. 391 00:17:11,780 --> 00:17:15,840 But people are beginning to be motivated to have several implementations 392 00:17:15,840 --> 00:17:21,440 and then they believe they can do that without the downsides of it 393 00:17:21,440 --> 00:17:26,920 and then create the resiliency that we would kind of want from the diversity of that. 394 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:31,060 So that's the way I kind of, that's like the positive thing 395 00:17:31,060 --> 00:17:34,960 is that we will have multiple implementations, multiple forms of governance perhaps, 396 00:17:35,220 --> 00:17:37,140 different leadership teams, different priorities, 397 00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:41,340 and they'll be kind of competing in the market, in the open source market, 398 00:17:41,340 --> 00:17:46,420 the free and open source market for customers and Bitcoiners who want to use it. 399 00:17:46,700 --> 00:17:50,260 So, yeah, it's kind of a nothing burger on the outside, hopefully. 400 00:17:50,520 --> 00:17:53,380 That's kind of the way, you know, you hope that, you know, 401 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:58,180 developers will have all kinds of drama and all it does is, 402 00:17:58,360 --> 00:18:01,880 if it succeeds, if that drama succeeds, Bitcoin just gets even more boring 403 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,380 and it gets even less eventful at the dev layer. 404 00:18:05,540 --> 00:18:09,300 That's kind of what the hopeful outcome of this is. 405 00:18:09,300 --> 00:18:09,820 Yeah. 406 00:18:09,820 --> 00:18:09,920 Yeah. 407 00:18:11,100 --> 00:18:12,560 Do you have anything else, Brandon, you want to say? 408 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,660 No, I mean, that's, yeah, I mean, that's a good explanation. 409 00:18:15,980 --> 00:18:21,980 Because I'm not, like I said, I'm not in the weeds of the dev, I guess, the dev demographic. 410 00:18:22,300 --> 00:18:26,100 And, like, I don't really, you know, I try to stay out of the dev area. 411 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:29,400 I mean, the most coding I do now is, like, Claude Code or something, you know? 412 00:18:29,500 --> 00:18:29,700 Yeah. 413 00:18:29,700 --> 00:18:36,560 Like, I mean, so, yeah, I mean, I'm more of, like, a free market guy when it comes to Bitcoin. 414 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:38,440 That's kind of what I've resonated around. 415 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:47,280 So kind of what you're saying, I just believe I've come to the conclusion that Bitcoin is going to win or maybe it already has one. 416 00:18:47,700 --> 00:18:56,040 So at the end of the day, the best version of Bitcoin will just be around and kind of come forward. 417 00:18:56,180 --> 00:18:59,940 And I don't think anybody can really get in the way too much of stopping it. 418 00:19:00,340 --> 00:19:01,540 No, I like that. 419 00:19:01,580 --> 00:19:03,280 I like to view Bitcoin more like an idea. 420 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:09,460 It's almost like oil is sort of like this category of thing. 421 00:19:09,620 --> 00:19:15,560 And you could stop maybe Exxon or you could stop all these individual players in it. 422 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:22,000 But the reality is we're all going to want energy and oil is super portable and shelf stable and whatever. 423 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,320 That idea will persist. 424 00:19:25,180 --> 00:19:26,160 And so I think it's a way to view Bitcoin. 425 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,520 This is just how the oil is distilled or whatever, how it's refined. 426 00:19:31,520 --> 00:19:35,040 and that's maybe, you know, who cares? 427 00:19:35,940 --> 00:19:38,700 No, I mean, I do think, like, I mean, you know, 428 00:19:39,060 --> 00:19:43,620 I just think there's people that are more passionate about this area of Bitcoin than me. 429 00:19:44,080 --> 00:19:49,460 And so, I mean, like, I'll let them kind of, you know, figure that out. 430 00:19:49,460 --> 00:19:54,060 And I kind of have, I mean, I've been around enough devs that I kind of have, like, 431 00:19:54,480 --> 00:19:57,600 I mean, I know part of Bitcoin's premise is, like, don't trust Verify, 432 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,880 but I trust the devs in this certain point in the free market 433 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:02,900 that it'll just, you know, 434 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:05,100 there's enough good people and smart people in Bitcoin 435 00:20:05,100 --> 00:20:06,700 that it'll figure it out, I guess. 436 00:20:07,880 --> 00:20:08,620 Well said. 437 00:20:09,620 --> 00:20:10,820 Cool, for sure. 438 00:20:10,940 --> 00:20:13,680 The next top story this week is 439 00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:17,320 Lexi Public Beta 24-7 Online Lightning Wallets 440 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:20,860 with BIP 353 Python and Rust SDKs. 441 00:20:20,860 --> 00:20:23,960 This is from Max Fang Axe, March 26, 442 00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,460 15 comments, 9,659 stats. 443 00:20:26,600 --> 00:20:28,100 Keon, what's this? 444 00:20:28,100 --> 00:20:31,780 Yeah, so I tried this out before the podcast a little bit. 445 00:20:31,860 --> 00:20:32,580 It's pretty excellent. 446 00:20:32,980 --> 00:20:38,760 I guess what they did is they, I think they have a fork of LDK node that they are running, 447 00:20:39,340 --> 00:20:44,600 that they modified to run in a secure enclave, or at least the parts of it that need to be 448 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:57,578 relatively trustless They modified it to be in a secure enclave And so you can get a lightning wallet that is always online or a lightning node that is always online effectively where you communicating with it 449 00:20:57,578 --> 00:21:03,358 through like your mobile app that can receive lightning payments 450 00:21:03,358 --> 00:21:06,598 when your phone is off or you're gone. 451 00:21:08,358 --> 00:21:12,438 And yeah, can participate in lightning transactions 452 00:21:12,438 --> 00:21:15,598 in a way that a normal LDK node running on your phone cannot. 453 00:21:16,158 --> 00:21:18,258 And it being on a secure enclave, 454 00:21:19,218 --> 00:21:23,138 if you trust secure enclaves and the software in it 455 00:21:23,138 --> 00:21:24,298 and some of the other things, 456 00:21:24,458 --> 00:21:26,558 and a lot of that you can verify for yourself, 457 00:21:27,978 --> 00:21:30,918 Lexi cannot spend your money without your permission, 458 00:21:31,698 --> 00:21:36,178 and they cannot rug you or steal your funds from you. 459 00:21:36,278 --> 00:21:37,858 You are still self-sovereign, 460 00:21:37,858 --> 00:21:44,998 but they go through great pains to still run the infrastructure for you 461 00:21:44,998 --> 00:21:46,418 while maintaining your self-sovereignty. 462 00:21:47,098 --> 00:21:48,398 So you get, it's kind of cool. 463 00:21:48,518 --> 00:21:51,598 And it's free like most mobile lightning nodes. 464 00:21:52,078 --> 00:21:56,138 And then they have this, it seems like they're working with this LSP type business model 465 00:21:56,138 --> 00:21:59,418 where they take a percentage of the transactions that are coming through. 466 00:21:59,418 --> 00:22:03,658 I was able to mess with it and send myself a one sat payment, 467 00:22:03,978 --> 00:22:05,518 which is a good, a nice test of that. 468 00:22:05,518 --> 00:22:11,798 And as far as I know, that didn't initiate a channel open, although it might have. 469 00:22:11,798 --> 00:22:17,878 And then in order to get money back out, I had to exceed like a thousand sat channel reserve. 470 00:22:18,478 --> 00:22:19,478 And it was able to get money back out. 471 00:22:19,758 --> 00:22:22,418 What's really cool about this is you can programmatically create these wallets. 472 00:22:22,478 --> 00:22:23,558 They have an SDK out. 473 00:22:23,958 --> 00:22:28,898 So this looks potentially competitive with things like Spark and ARK. 474 00:22:29,658 --> 00:22:34,738 And so, yeah, I think that's pretty great. 475 00:22:34,738 --> 00:22:38,858 And you have more of a native Lightning construct that is just, 476 00:22:39,218 --> 00:22:43,958 they've abstracted basically as far as you can go into an enclave. 477 00:22:44,538 --> 00:22:51,818 And you're not relying on ARK, which has a lot of novel Bitcoin things going on, 478 00:22:52,478 --> 00:22:56,038 or Spark, which similarly has novel Bitcoin things going on 479 00:22:56,038 --> 00:22:58,938 and has different trust trade-offs. 480 00:22:59,858 --> 00:23:03,358 It's interesting, the sidecar thing, can you explain that a little bit? 481 00:23:03,358 --> 00:23:04,698 How does that work? 482 00:23:05,478 --> 00:23:07,938 Is that just like a separate, it looks like it's a web server? 483 00:23:08,778 --> 00:23:12,058 Yeah, I would assume, I don't know what they mean by sidecar. 484 00:23:12,438 --> 00:23:15,078 It sounds like it might be a generic term for. 485 00:23:15,538 --> 00:23:16,678 What are they calling that? 486 00:23:16,858 --> 00:23:23,058 It might be a generic term for a server that is started as a child process of another server. 487 00:23:23,878 --> 00:23:27,478 And so you take down one server and the sidecar goes down. 488 00:23:27,638 --> 00:23:28,718 It's kind of like a motorcycle. 489 00:23:29,038 --> 00:23:31,278 You don't have a sidecar without the main motorcycle. 490 00:23:31,278 --> 00:23:33,038 So that's literally what they mean. 491 00:23:33,038 --> 00:23:34,758 The word sidecar because it's like a motorcycle sidecar. 492 00:23:34,758 --> 00:23:35,818 Yeah, you're like piggybacking. 493 00:23:35,998 --> 00:23:40,958 It's like a sidecar is like a computer process that piggybacks on a main process. 494 00:23:41,098 --> 00:23:41,278 Yeah. 495 00:23:41,518 --> 00:23:43,798 Is that how I guess they were using that term? 496 00:23:43,918 --> 00:23:44,378 That's cool. 497 00:23:45,078 --> 00:23:45,278 Yeah. 498 00:23:45,278 --> 00:23:45,698 Cool. 499 00:23:45,978 --> 00:23:51,118 So you can run your own, I guess, and you can run it as a sidecar in the cloud 500 00:23:51,118 --> 00:23:55,078 if you want, like, see, if you're like a business and want to receive. 501 00:23:55,878 --> 00:23:57,478 Yeah, and then Scoresby had this. 502 00:23:57,578 --> 00:23:58,098 What is this? 503 00:23:58,218 --> 00:24:02,538 Is he just going over some of the different options for it or breakdown, it looks like? 504 00:24:02,618 --> 00:24:02,818 Yeah. 505 00:24:02,818 --> 00:24:08,258 The trust that you're putting in Lexi, basically, 506 00:24:08,358 --> 00:24:11,278 they can turn off your node because they're running in the secure enclave for you. 507 00:24:12,518 --> 00:24:16,858 They can prevent you from making a Lightning payment by turning off your node 508 00:24:16,858 --> 00:24:18,818 or some variety of turning off your node 509 00:24:18,818 --> 00:24:21,158 or some of the infrastructure on its way to your node. 510 00:24:24,318 --> 00:24:26,698 You can open channels. 511 00:24:28,698 --> 00:24:29,138 Wait. 512 00:24:30,018 --> 00:24:30,318 Yeah. 513 00:24:30,318 --> 00:24:32,838 from L&D you can open any channels you want 514 00:24:32,838 --> 00:24:34,698 Lexi you can't 515 00:24:34,698 --> 00:24:37,018 it's just I believe just a channel with them like it is 516 00:24:37,018 --> 00:24:38,058 with Phoenix 517 00:24:38,058 --> 00:24:40,938 but neither of them can rug you 518 00:24:40,938 --> 00:24:42,318 and that's perhaps the important point 519 00:24:42,318 --> 00:24:44,778 I would like to know about spending 520 00:24:44,778 --> 00:24:47,178 it's unclear I do think they can't 521 00:24:47,178 --> 00:24:48,938 spend without you but I want to know 522 00:24:48,938 --> 00:24:50,418 under what conditions they talk about 523 00:24:50,418 --> 00:24:52,598 allowing for NWC eventually 524 00:24:52,598 --> 00:24:54,838 which means that 525 00:24:54,838 --> 00:24:57,018 you maybe don't have a signing 526 00:24:57,018 --> 00:24:58,338 device that's online and 527 00:24:58,338 --> 00:25:03,198 somehow without you being online and approving every transaction, 528 00:25:04,278 --> 00:25:06,718 that node running that secure enclave is still able to do it. 529 00:25:06,738 --> 00:25:07,598 So I don't know how that works. 530 00:25:08,778 --> 00:25:11,438 This is just a very early public beta, 531 00:25:11,638 --> 00:25:13,618 and so I think we'll have more details as time goes on. 532 00:25:13,678 --> 00:25:16,638 And if you have any questions, one of the co-founders, Max, 533 00:25:16,678 --> 00:25:18,498 is in the comments there. 534 00:25:19,398 --> 00:25:21,458 Brandon, how often do you use, like, 535 00:25:21,538 --> 00:25:24,318 would you ever implement this into your Green Candle app 536 00:25:24,318 --> 00:25:25,718 or something like that, this kind of wallet? 537 00:25:25,758 --> 00:25:26,898 Green Candle app, I don't know about that. 538 00:25:26,898 --> 00:25:28,978 Because you use GitHub now and you're coding. 539 00:25:29,278 --> 00:25:32,538 Yeah, I mean, I built a couple websites just recently. 540 00:25:32,718 --> 00:25:33,798 That's about as far as I got. 541 00:25:33,818 --> 00:25:34,458 That's how it starts. 542 00:25:34,758 --> 00:25:35,078 Yeah. 543 00:25:36,378 --> 00:25:40,278 I mean, my question for this is, okay, like, so is it, 544 00:25:41,238 --> 00:25:46,458 how is this different than a Phoenix wallet, for example, on like an app? 545 00:25:46,518 --> 00:25:47,398 Or is it similar? 546 00:25:47,678 --> 00:25:51,398 Can you kind of go through some of that as much as you know, I guess, Keon? 547 00:25:51,958 --> 00:25:52,778 Yeah, the main difference. 548 00:25:52,778 --> 00:25:55,998 So if you have Phoenix on your mobile phone 549 00:25:55,998 --> 00:25:59,378 and you have turned off Google Play services 550 00:25:59,378 --> 00:26:05,298 and yesterday you gave me your lightning address 551 00:26:05,298 --> 00:26:08,218 or a Bolt 12 or something or an invoice for me to pay, 552 00:26:09,298 --> 00:26:10,618 I will not be able to pay that 553 00:26:10,618 --> 00:26:12,218 until you open that app on your phone. 554 00:26:13,278 --> 00:26:16,258 Because the way Phoenix works, 555 00:26:16,358 --> 00:26:20,638 it requires some part of your app to be awake to sign messages. 556 00:26:20,638 --> 00:26:24,598 you have a key to your node on your phone 557 00:26:24,598 --> 00:26:27,398 and it needs to be awake to sign 558 00:26:27,398 --> 00:26:29,818 because it's not always online running in the background 559 00:26:29,818 --> 00:26:31,918 and you might be disconnected from the internet or whatever. 560 00:26:32,178 --> 00:26:33,298 But in the case of Lexi, 561 00:26:34,038 --> 00:26:37,138 all that stuff is happening in their cloud 562 00:26:37,138 --> 00:26:39,338 in the secure enclave thing, 563 00:26:39,438 --> 00:26:41,838 which basically means that they don't have access to it. 564 00:26:41,938 --> 00:26:43,358 They can't read your key. 565 00:26:44,098 --> 00:26:46,478 It's kind of like we've taken what is running 566 00:26:46,478 --> 00:26:48,758 in Phoenix on your phone 567 00:26:48,758 --> 00:26:52,858 and put it into like a vault in Lexi's cloud 568 00:26:52,858 --> 00:26:55,238 that you only have the code to to get inside. 569 00:26:55,878 --> 00:26:59,238 But they have like a little bit of access, 570 00:27:00,218 --> 00:27:01,578 you know, certain things that they can have, 571 00:27:01,618 --> 00:27:02,618 the thing in the vault do, 572 00:27:02,838 --> 00:27:06,298 without you having to approve it and stuff. 573 00:27:06,698 --> 00:27:08,178 That's kind of, does that make sense? 574 00:27:08,598 --> 00:27:09,518 Yeah, no, that makes sense. 575 00:27:09,618 --> 00:27:12,578 And then I guess one follow-up real quick is, 576 00:27:13,098 --> 00:27:14,498 so I mean, now that they're obviously, 577 00:27:14,498 --> 00:27:16,518 they have the beta coming in, 578 00:27:16,518 --> 00:27:23,118 But, you know, I think last year, maybe like the year before, we saw like a lot of the like wallet of Satoshi. 579 00:27:23,278 --> 00:27:30,838 And I think even Phoenix like kind of left the iOS and Google Play stores in the U.S. because of like the KYC. 580 00:27:31,158 --> 00:27:38,398 Is there a way that this Lexi wallet can get around that, I guess, because it's kind of running on its own cloud? 581 00:27:39,138 --> 00:27:41,658 Do you know any like the details there? 582 00:27:41,658 --> 00:27:49,538 Yeah, while they released them as iOS and Android apps, I assume that they could run this in a PWA, which doesn't have these restrictions yet. 583 00:27:49,658 --> 00:27:55,638 Like, we don't yet have websites requiring KYC in the same way that we have iOS and Android app stores. 584 00:27:56,558 --> 00:28:01,158 But I think most people would prefer an iOS or Android app, and the user experience is better. 585 00:28:01,238 --> 00:28:02,258 That's why it did it that way. 586 00:28:02,258 --> 00:28:04,858 but I would guess if 587 00:28:04,858 --> 00:28:06,858 it came down to it, this would 588 00:28:06,858 --> 00:28:09,098 be much easier to run 589 00:28:09,098 --> 00:28:10,198 in a web browser 590 00:28:10,198 --> 00:28:12,918 relative to Phoenix. 591 00:28:13,918 --> 00:28:14,978 I think I would 592 00:28:14,978 --> 00:28:17,018 guess that Wallet of Satoshi though, they use Spark 593 00:28:17,018 --> 00:28:19,058 as their back end now, at least in the United 594 00:28:19,058 --> 00:28:19,458 States. 595 00:28:21,438 --> 00:28:23,258 That would probably do fine in a PWA 596 00:28:23,258 --> 00:28:24,918 too, if push comes to shove. 597 00:28:24,918 --> 00:28:25,958 I would be curious to understand 598 00:28:25,958 --> 00:28:28,958 this is not like a non-profit 599 00:28:28,958 --> 00:28:30,238 project, right? 600 00:28:30,238 --> 00:28:32,618 No, I believe they're venture-backed. 601 00:28:32,618 --> 00:28:33,878 They've been around for a few years. 602 00:28:34,018 --> 00:28:37,378 I remember when we started discussing our wallet switch, 603 00:28:37,718 --> 00:28:40,438 some people, I think they had some kind of relationship with them, 604 00:28:40,518 --> 00:28:42,718 reached out to us and were like, hey, would you use this? 605 00:28:43,118 --> 00:28:45,458 And they were like, would you pay X amount per user? 606 00:28:45,938 --> 00:28:46,698 And I was like, no. 607 00:28:47,558 --> 00:28:50,318 I mean, maybe the customer will pay for it, 608 00:28:50,578 --> 00:28:52,558 but it doesn't make sense for me to pay for it. 609 00:28:54,098 --> 00:28:56,778 And it seems, I don't know if that factored into the reasoning, 610 00:28:56,778 --> 00:28:59,958 but they instead seem to prefer this LSP-based model, 611 00:28:59,958 --> 00:29:01,658 which is like the Breeze business model. 612 00:29:01,918 --> 00:29:03,758 It appears to be the Spark business model. 613 00:29:04,578 --> 00:29:06,018 Basically, I just want to get... 614 00:29:06,018 --> 00:29:07,458 I was curious what the model was. 615 00:29:07,958 --> 00:29:08,958 The mode is the LSP. 616 00:29:09,458 --> 00:29:10,198 It looks really great. 617 00:29:10,278 --> 00:29:13,138 The only thing, it just reminds me a lot of like Cash App. 618 00:29:13,718 --> 00:29:15,078 It looks basically like Cash App. 619 00:29:15,158 --> 00:29:16,178 Oh, no, it's a great... 620 00:29:16,178 --> 00:29:19,458 It's very well designed and the error messages are pretty clear. 621 00:29:19,618 --> 00:29:21,958 It looks like it's just like a straight... 622 00:29:21,958 --> 00:29:24,158 Straight dope, yeah. 623 00:29:24,318 --> 00:29:24,658 Yeah, yeah. 624 00:29:24,698 --> 00:29:26,958 It's just interesting how it looks exactly like Cash App. 625 00:29:27,718 --> 00:29:28,318 As far as like... 626 00:29:28,318 --> 00:29:28,958 And for a beta... 627 00:29:28,958 --> 00:29:30,698 Yeah, I'm saying it. 628 00:29:30,758 --> 00:29:31,638 I'm complimenting them. 629 00:29:31,838 --> 00:29:32,118 Oh, yeah. 630 00:29:32,258 --> 00:29:33,338 Oh, no, I hear the compliment. 631 00:29:33,498 --> 00:29:33,638 Yeah. 632 00:29:33,918 --> 00:29:36,998 I mean, having used it, I was impressed by it. 633 00:29:36,998 --> 00:29:37,618 I'll check it out. 634 00:29:37,978 --> 00:29:38,538 Very smooth. 635 00:29:39,278 --> 00:29:40,878 Yeah, I'm really shocked to see something like this. 636 00:29:42,318 --> 00:29:43,438 Human Bitcoin addresses. 637 00:29:43,578 --> 00:29:44,118 That's interesting. 638 00:29:45,158 --> 00:29:50,218 Oh, yeah, that's the BIP353 thing where it's like it's DNS. 639 00:29:51,238 --> 00:29:52,478 And you have your... 640 00:29:52,478 --> 00:29:56,738 Yeah, and you can do a Bolt 12 or a Bitcoin address. 641 00:29:57,018 --> 00:29:57,238 Yeah. 642 00:29:57,238 --> 00:29:59,858 or I think it's not a page line. 643 00:30:00,038 --> 00:30:01,418 It's, what is it, silent addresses? 644 00:30:01,858 --> 00:30:03,178 Yeah, it's good to see. 645 00:30:03,858 --> 00:30:04,098 Cool. 646 00:30:05,238 --> 00:30:05,858 That's good. 647 00:30:05,958 --> 00:30:06,898 Some good lightning talk. 648 00:30:06,978 --> 00:30:08,578 We got some more lightning stuff coming later. 649 00:30:09,078 --> 00:30:11,178 The number one top story this week was 650 00:30:11,178 --> 00:30:14,378 two block reorg at height 941-880. 651 00:30:14,718 --> 00:30:16,818 This is from 0xB10C. 652 00:30:17,318 --> 00:30:20,198 21 comments, 12,400 K cents. 653 00:30:20,398 --> 00:30:21,038 Key on. 654 00:30:22,458 --> 00:30:23,178 Yeah, this one. 655 00:30:23,478 --> 00:30:24,478 So this one's tricky. 656 00:30:24,678 --> 00:30:25,338 There's been a lot. 657 00:30:25,338 --> 00:30:31,158 I mean, so this only happens about once every 150,000 blocks or so 658 00:30:31,158 --> 00:30:34,978 that we have a reorg that's deeper than one block. 659 00:30:35,138 --> 00:30:35,558 Pleb dev. 660 00:30:39,978 --> 00:30:41,478 Damn, plebs don't listen anymore. 661 00:30:41,738 --> 00:30:42,138 I'm just kidding. 662 00:30:43,038 --> 00:30:43,958 Hey, Brent, can you grab me a beer? 663 00:30:44,138 --> 00:30:44,798 Yeah, I got you. 664 00:30:44,838 --> 00:30:45,518 I can't leave here. 665 00:30:46,378 --> 00:30:46,758 Sorry, Brent. 666 00:30:46,878 --> 00:30:47,318 Sorry, Kia. 667 00:30:47,438 --> 00:30:47,878 Go for it. 668 00:30:48,418 --> 00:30:49,318 Oh, no, I don't mind. 669 00:30:49,318 --> 00:30:55,638 And yeah, this happens once every about 150,000 blocks or so. 670 00:30:55,838 --> 00:31:04,178 We have two chain tips competing that are at a depth of, that causes a two block reorg. 671 00:31:05,458 --> 00:31:11,958 In this case, most of Bitcoin's network was mining on top of, I believe, an amp pool block 672 00:31:11,958 --> 00:31:16,738 that was followed shortly by a via BTC block. 673 00:31:16,738 --> 00:31:22,338 but then a little bit later the network re-orged out those two blocks 674 00:31:22,338 --> 00:31:28,538 to be replaced by three blocks from Foundry 675 00:31:28,538 --> 00:31:34,618 and it was a bit strange because most people reported 676 00:31:34,618 --> 00:31:40,438 that their node did not see the third block from Foundry 677 00:31:40,438 --> 00:31:43,978 or they did not see the first two blocks from Foundry 678 00:31:43,978 --> 00:31:45,538 until the third block was found. 679 00:31:46,318 --> 00:31:47,378 So is this manipulation? 680 00:31:47,778 --> 00:31:49,238 I mean, what's going on here? 681 00:31:49,258 --> 00:31:53,018 So that is what people were saying, 682 00:31:53,198 --> 00:31:57,478 is because they did not see the earlier two foundry blocks, 683 00:31:57,478 --> 00:32:01,258 that what foundry was doing was they were withholding these blocks. 684 00:32:01,418 --> 00:32:03,898 They had mined a block and then another block 685 00:32:03,898 --> 00:32:06,378 and were not communicating it to the network 686 00:32:06,378 --> 00:32:10,498 so that they might gain an advantage. 687 00:32:10,758 --> 00:32:12,118 It's called selfish mining, 688 00:32:12,118 --> 00:32:17,398 where you hoard your blocks knowing that you have quite a bit of hash power 689 00:32:17,398 --> 00:32:23,418 and you might be able to reorg the chain in your favor and collect more Bitcoin fees 690 00:32:23,418 --> 00:32:29,498 because you eventually release a chain tip that has more work in it than anyone else in the network. 691 00:32:29,498 --> 00:32:35,418 And because you didn't share that work with other people, they are naturally behind. 692 00:32:36,158 --> 00:32:37,858 So some people thought that's what was going on. 693 00:32:38,138 --> 00:32:40,838 But then people looked into it a little more deeply. 694 00:32:40,838 --> 00:32:44,218 This is the most exciting thing to happen in a while. 695 00:32:45,578 --> 00:32:48,398 And it looks like that's actually not what happened. 696 00:32:48,638 --> 00:32:53,818 We all suspect that this is a reality that will eventually happen 697 00:32:53,818 --> 00:32:59,298 because the incentives are such that if you are running a large pool, 698 00:33:00,018 --> 00:33:02,678 selfish mining is financially advantageous. 699 00:33:03,738 --> 00:33:05,798 I think it's because the halving's coming. 700 00:33:06,138 --> 00:33:07,338 They're testing some stuff. 701 00:33:08,098 --> 00:33:08,298 No. 702 00:33:08,298 --> 00:33:10,378 Maybe the block sizes get a little bit smaller. 703 00:33:10,378 --> 00:33:20,678 No, again, I've been mostly been, so far I've been describing the, like the wrong, what we think is the wrong scenario now, or what the conclusion that a lot of people jump to. 704 00:33:21,338 --> 00:33:30,318 The reality is, is that what it looks like happened is Foundry found these blocks shortly after the Antpool block and shortly after the VIA BTC block. 705 00:33:30,318 --> 00:33:38,318 So they propagated much more slowly, I guess is what Merch says in a comment in the thread. 706 00:33:38,318 --> 00:33:45,858 so after foundry found those blocks even though they were you know broadcasting them they uh nodes 707 00:33:45,858 --> 00:33:51,158 on the network had already accepted the um older chain tip that had the exact same amount of work 708 00:33:51,158 --> 00:33:58,258 and did not propagate this like alternative tip wow um and so like the network just didn't see it 709 00:33:58,258 --> 00:34:04,678 as well and that allowed for foundry to have like a have like a selfish mining moment a little bit 710 00:34:04,678 --> 00:34:06,798 Just so people know, Foundry is the big, is it still the biggest? 711 00:34:07,058 --> 00:34:08,018 I believe so. 712 00:34:08,158 --> 00:34:10,798 That's why people were probably freaking out at a mansion. 713 00:34:11,278 --> 00:34:12,718 Yeah, they also, I mean, they did a pretty, 714 00:34:12,898 --> 00:34:15,498 they did have a lot of luck in this period of time too. 715 00:34:15,578 --> 00:34:19,658 I think they found seven blocks within 22 minutes around this period of time. 716 00:34:21,618 --> 00:34:25,498 So it looks like B10C said, 717 00:34:26,078 --> 00:34:29,758 I found it interesting that Burr's stratum work did not see any stratum jobs 718 00:34:29,758 --> 00:34:31,618 from Foundry mining on their winning blocks. 719 00:34:31,618 --> 00:34:34,098 maybe they were only mining on 720 00:34:34,098 --> 00:34:36,258 them in one region and stratum work 721 00:34:36,258 --> 00:34:37,738 is connected to a different one 722 00:34:37,738 --> 00:34:39,438 or they kept quiet 723 00:34:39,438 --> 00:34:41,438 about them 724 00:34:41,438 --> 00:34:44,358 or it's a bug on stratum work 725 00:34:44,358 --> 00:34:46,318 yeah so these are ordered by 726 00:34:46,318 --> 00:34:47,998 recent and so these were some of the early 727 00:34:47,998 --> 00:34:50,258 he was listing out a few hypotheses 728 00:34:50,258 --> 00:34:52,198 there but later 729 00:34:52,198 --> 00:34:53,958 we got a lot more data 730 00:34:53,958 --> 00:34:56,338 so there's a lot of that site that you were looking 731 00:34:56,338 --> 00:34:58,078 at is 0x 732 00:34:58,078 --> 00:35:00,298 10bc I think 733 00:35:00,298 --> 00:35:01,338 that's how you say it 734 00:35:01,338 --> 00:35:07,718 he runs this organization where they run these observing nodes of the entire network. 735 00:35:08,318 --> 00:35:15,178 And so before he had reports come in and before he talked to miners who mine on Foundry's pool, 736 00:35:15,858 --> 00:35:18,178 these were the hypotheses a lot of people had. 737 00:35:18,178 --> 00:35:22,118 But after talking to them, they came to the conclusion that it's like, 738 00:35:22,558 --> 00:35:27,398 this is like normal network behavior given the circumstances. 739 00:35:27,398 --> 00:35:29,378 The circumstances were just kind of unique. 740 00:35:31,338 --> 00:35:31,978 Yeah. 741 00:35:33,178 --> 00:35:34,238 This is really interesting. 742 00:35:34,558 --> 00:35:35,178 It's always cool. 743 00:35:35,298 --> 00:35:38,898 I feel like every time around this time of the season, 744 00:35:38,998 --> 00:35:40,978 we always get some weird mining thing. 745 00:35:41,058 --> 00:35:41,838 Have you noticed that? 746 00:35:42,858 --> 00:35:47,578 I do, because I feel like I just see these type of weird mining stuff, 747 00:35:48,298 --> 00:35:50,738 like news items always come up in the spring. 748 00:35:51,238 --> 00:35:52,318 I wonder why that is. 749 00:35:54,098 --> 00:35:54,838 I don't know. 750 00:35:54,838 --> 00:35:57,658 I mean, you have the track record on Sacker News to go look and see, 751 00:35:57,818 --> 00:35:59,598 but it's just interesting. 752 00:35:59,598 --> 00:36:02,398 We could do an astrology for Bitcoin news, but I don't. 753 00:36:02,458 --> 00:36:04,578 No, I'm not saying this. 754 00:36:04,978 --> 00:36:05,378 I know. 755 00:36:05,378 --> 00:36:06,378 I'm not saying this. 756 00:36:06,718 --> 00:36:08,978 It just feels very seasonal. 757 00:36:09,298 --> 00:36:10,078 It just feels very seasonal. 758 00:36:10,178 --> 00:36:10,878 Mercury is rising. 759 00:36:11,118 --> 00:36:12,938 It just feels very seasonal right now. 760 00:36:13,778 --> 00:36:17,958 It feels very seasonal right before a lot of people start congregating together. 761 00:36:19,098 --> 00:36:19,578 Cool. 762 00:36:20,578 --> 00:36:21,818 Well, that was a lot. 763 00:36:22,318 --> 00:36:24,038 Brandon, do you have any thoughts on this? 764 00:36:24,398 --> 00:36:27,318 Is this something that you're going to be worried about as a Bitcoin holder? 765 00:36:28,598 --> 00:36:29,438 To be honest, no. 766 00:36:29,438 --> 00:36:33,098 I have no idea what's going on here. 767 00:36:33,638 --> 00:36:36,558 I missed, like, half of it because I was grabbing a little brewski, too. 768 00:36:36,738 --> 00:36:40,958 So, like, I mean, this is not my wheelhouse yet again. 769 00:36:41,198 --> 00:36:44,418 So, I mean, but it is, you know, hey, I mean. 770 00:36:44,818 --> 00:36:46,158 So what do you think about when you hear all this? 771 00:36:46,298 --> 00:36:46,758 It just sounds like. 772 00:36:46,778 --> 00:36:47,658 TikTok next block. 773 00:36:47,818 --> 00:36:49,138 That's what I'm thinking about it. 774 00:36:51,458 --> 00:36:51,658 Woo. 775 00:36:52,738 --> 00:36:53,418 Man, I missed. 776 00:36:53,518 --> 00:36:56,538 I used to be very much, like, out of the loop. 777 00:36:56,538 --> 00:37:00,438 But now you kind of just, the more you start watching the news, you start seeing it, 778 00:37:00,478 --> 00:37:02,258 it's just like you just get sucked in. 779 00:37:03,218 --> 00:37:06,178 So this guy right here, 0x10c. 780 00:37:06,178 --> 00:37:11,318 He's a very, somebody that always does this. 781 00:37:11,398 --> 00:37:13,838 He'll look into cool stuff like this on the mining side. 782 00:37:14,398 --> 00:37:15,178 So he's just a legend. 783 00:37:16,478 --> 00:37:16,878 Bitcoin. 784 00:37:17,098 --> 00:37:17,458 Yeah, they do. 785 00:37:17,558 --> 00:37:19,458 Look at how many stats he's stacked, man. 786 00:37:19,698 --> 00:37:20,158 Yeah, and they're. 787 00:37:20,158 --> 00:37:22,438 He's very important to the ecosystem. 788 00:37:22,438 --> 00:37:25,738 If anybody deserves some money, this guy does. 789 00:37:26,138 --> 00:37:27,558 Give this guy a grant. 790 00:37:27,558 --> 00:37:32,638 Well, I think they've given him a grant, and I think they funded a few helpers for him, too. 791 00:37:32,798 --> 00:37:33,078 Nice. 792 00:37:33,638 --> 00:37:35,098 I mean, he's keeping the network honest. 793 00:37:35,958 --> 00:37:36,398 Yeah. 794 00:37:37,478 --> 00:37:44,298 I think for a long time he was the only one running this kind of peer-to-peer observing network. 795 00:37:45,098 --> 00:37:45,898 Cool to see. 796 00:37:46,458 --> 00:37:49,578 The next one, so that's all the top stories this week. 797 00:37:49,578 --> 00:37:53,738 We're going to jump into Wumble's Picks. 798 00:37:53,898 --> 00:37:54,538 Wumble's Picks. 799 00:37:54,638 --> 00:37:54,878 Wumble. 800 00:37:55,478 --> 00:37:56,738 This is your pick, buddy. 801 00:37:57,558 --> 00:37:58,178 Wumble's Picks. 802 00:37:59,018 --> 00:38:02,158 Ocean's Jason Hughes shares weird details about the two-block reorg. 803 00:38:02,298 --> 00:38:03,958 He replaced this one with another one. 804 00:38:04,158 --> 00:38:05,058 This is Wumble's first. 805 00:38:05,078 --> 00:38:05,898 Oh, this is the one that. 806 00:38:05,998 --> 00:38:06,218 Yeah. 807 00:38:06,318 --> 00:38:06,798 Oh, man. 808 00:38:07,218 --> 00:38:08,498 This is an orphan post. 809 00:38:08,698 --> 00:38:09,798 Okay, let's read this question. 810 00:38:09,998 --> 00:38:10,738 A stale post. 811 00:38:10,838 --> 00:38:11,498 I'm sorry. 812 00:38:11,998 --> 00:38:16,018 Because we basically just covered that post in the last top story, 813 00:38:16,018 --> 00:38:22,558 but that was some of the early speculation from VP of engineering or CTO at Ocean Mining. 814 00:38:22,798 --> 00:38:24,478 Let me read the question because let's just get it quick. 815 00:38:24,938 --> 00:38:27,478 Wumble's question was, is Ocean blowing things out of proportion 816 00:38:27,478 --> 00:38:31,078 or is this an indication Foundry is reaching a dangerous percentage of hash rate? 817 00:38:32,258 --> 00:38:34,478 It turned out that none of that, right? 818 00:38:34,678 --> 00:38:35,138 Well, yeah. 819 00:38:35,338 --> 00:38:37,418 I wouldn't know if they're blowing out of proportion, 820 00:38:37,578 --> 00:38:40,398 but they came to the wrong conclusion like many people did 821 00:38:40,398 --> 00:38:43,818 that the data they were seeing suggested that Foundry was selfish mining. 822 00:38:43,818 --> 00:38:46,638 but it is a nice reminder that 823 00:38:46,638 --> 00:38:49,538 even though Foundry was not 824 00:38:49,538 --> 00:38:51,498 being selfish 825 00:38:51,498 --> 00:38:54,218 they have so much hash power 826 00:38:54,218 --> 00:38:56,858 that their behavior begins to look like they are 827 00:38:56,858 --> 00:39:00,078 and still good enough reason to 828 00:39:00,078 --> 00:39:01,858 remind everyone that 829 00:39:01,858 --> 00:39:05,338 mining centralization is dangerous 830 00:39:05,338 --> 00:39:07,978 I think Brandon's right, there's just a lot of fighting 831 00:39:07,978 --> 00:39:09,398 now that there's in the bear market 832 00:39:09,398 --> 00:39:12,338 that's what happens man, we get bored 833 00:39:12,338 --> 00:39:15,738 we're not like all checking the price and we're on all like, you know, 834 00:39:16,178 --> 00:39:19,198 as much as everybody wants to say that that price doesn't matter. 835 00:39:19,418 --> 00:39:20,898 I feel like intuitively. 836 00:39:22,038 --> 00:39:23,658 Morale's low in Bitcoin right now. 837 00:39:23,658 --> 00:39:26,338 Yeah, and then when price is going up, everybody's just like, yeah, 838 00:39:26,358 --> 00:39:27,558 they want to dunk on everybody. 839 00:39:27,698 --> 00:39:28,378 They want to be right. 840 00:39:28,478 --> 00:39:30,478 The memes on Twitter are going crazy. 841 00:39:30,678 --> 00:39:34,558 So everybody is like more involved with that opposed to these like little 842 00:39:34,558 --> 00:39:35,778 nitty gritty details. 843 00:39:36,958 --> 00:39:39,458 But yeah, the bear market, obviously it's for building, 844 00:39:39,458 --> 00:39:44,298 but it also seems like it is kind of like for fighting as well, you know. 845 00:39:44,398 --> 00:39:47,938 We got a little cannibalistic mindset we got in here 846 00:39:47,938 --> 00:39:50,138 where they want to go at everybody. 847 00:39:50,818 --> 00:39:50,998 Yeah. 848 00:39:52,038 --> 00:39:52,438 Yeah. 849 00:39:52,678 --> 00:39:54,598 It takes – these are like cathedrals, man. 850 00:39:54,638 --> 00:39:57,498 It's going to take a while to get Bitcoin to where it needs to be. 851 00:39:57,638 --> 00:39:58,458 So it just takes time. 852 00:39:58,978 --> 00:39:59,858 You got to be patient, people. 853 00:40:01,478 --> 00:40:01,878 Cool. 854 00:40:01,958 --> 00:40:03,218 That's all the top stories this week. 855 00:40:03,418 --> 00:40:06,318 And then that's also Wumble's pick as well too. 856 00:40:06,398 --> 00:40:07,518 No, that was his old pick. 857 00:40:07,518 --> 00:40:10,318 He replaced it with another pick. 858 00:40:10,638 --> 00:40:11,598 I don't know if you... 859 00:40:11,598 --> 00:40:12,938 No, we'll just do it next week. 860 00:40:13,298 --> 00:40:14,438 We got a lot to go to. 861 00:40:15,078 --> 00:40:15,798 Yeah, sorry. 862 00:40:16,658 --> 00:40:17,338 Sorry, Wombo. 863 00:40:17,438 --> 00:40:18,678 Yeah, all right, Wombo. 864 00:40:19,118 --> 00:40:20,318 I think you should still clip it, though. 865 00:40:20,918 --> 00:40:21,238 Clip it. 866 00:40:22,098 --> 00:40:31,578 The next top story this week in AI was Tesla and SpaceX announced 25 billion TeraFab chip factory. 867 00:40:32,278 --> 00:40:33,198 This is from Kube. 868 00:40:33,758 --> 00:40:34,558 Did you read this? 869 00:40:35,338 --> 00:40:36,078 Or you just posted it? 870 00:40:36,078 --> 00:40:44,738 I read the post, but I felt like I didn't get a good grip on it because I was not super ecstatic about it. 871 00:40:44,878 --> 00:40:45,838 Like I saw other people. 872 00:40:46,098 --> 00:40:50,798 The headline is TerraFab, a joint 25 billion chip fabrication facility in Austin, Texas, 873 00:40:51,418 --> 00:40:55,118 that Elon Musk claims will produce one terawatt of computer power annually. 874 00:40:55,578 --> 00:40:58,818 It would be the largest semiconductor fab ever built by an absurd margin. 875 00:40:59,798 --> 00:41:00,798 Yeah, that's what it's about. 876 00:41:01,698 --> 00:41:02,878 Yeah, he's building this big fab. 877 00:41:02,878 --> 00:41:13,038 But then it was like combined with some other, like what he's going to, he needs, like he's going to stat, like how he's going to get to that scale is he's going to, part of it is he's going to deploy Optimus robots in it. 878 00:41:13,358 --> 00:41:19,138 And then those chips are going to be deployed into like space, you know, by SpaceX. 879 00:41:19,678 --> 00:41:21,898 And so he's going to be doing like GPU. 880 00:41:22,758 --> 00:41:23,158 Mining. 881 00:41:23,598 --> 00:41:25,518 Not GPU mining, but like effectively. 882 00:41:25,678 --> 00:41:25,898 Yeah. 883 00:41:26,078 --> 00:41:28,198 He has to be harnessing the sun's. 884 00:41:29,018 --> 00:41:29,378 Yeah. 885 00:41:29,438 --> 00:41:31,138 He's like, I'm Kardashev, you know. 886 00:41:31,138 --> 00:41:44,736 I Elon Kardashev Musk too or whatever And like I don know But like I mean it cool I mean no one else is charting these It paperware until it not Yeah He like he way too early 887 00:41:45,396 --> 00:41:49,256 And he makes these aggressive predictions about things. 888 00:41:49,776 --> 00:41:56,236 But I believe he's eventually right on most of, like, his direction 889 00:41:56,236 --> 00:41:57,756 and even his ability to deliver it. 890 00:41:57,796 --> 00:41:58,736 He, like, doesn't stop. 891 00:41:59,056 --> 00:42:01,396 So, I think we'll eventually have this. 892 00:42:01,396 --> 00:42:03,176 You give anybody as much money as you give Elon, 893 00:42:03,256 --> 00:42:04,816 anybody can get something across the goal line. 894 00:42:04,996 --> 00:42:05,756 Oh, I don't think so. 895 00:42:06,316 --> 00:42:10,336 I don't think I can have this much money and get this done. 896 00:42:11,136 --> 00:42:11,916 I don't know. 897 00:42:12,036 --> 00:42:16,416 I mean, well, one, like just chip production needs to come back towards the U.S. 898 00:42:16,416 --> 00:42:21,076 Obviously, we've been like heavily relying on Taiwan, semiconductors and everything. 899 00:42:21,076 --> 00:42:26,016 We saw that that big issue that happened, like obviously during COVID. 900 00:42:26,436 --> 00:42:34,076 So, I mean, I think just being able to build this out and build a giant chip factory, 901 00:42:34,076 --> 00:42:36,696 kind of like in the center of the United States too, 902 00:42:36,796 --> 00:42:40,696 not just in, you know, like California or whatnot. 903 00:42:40,956 --> 00:42:43,196 I mean, Texas is relatively center comparatively, 904 00:42:43,196 --> 00:42:47,216 so I think it's a good area to do it in the U.S. 905 00:42:47,216 --> 00:42:52,356 and kind of bringing that manufacturing more stateside would be beneficial. 906 00:42:52,956 --> 00:42:55,496 If there's anybody that's crazy enough to do it and with enough money, 907 00:42:55,656 --> 00:42:57,196 I mean, Elon seems like the guy. 908 00:42:57,416 --> 00:43:02,316 So, I mean, I guess, like, for me, it's always, like, kind of like a wait and see 909 00:43:02,316 --> 00:43:05,576 because, I mean, weren't they talking about potential? 910 00:43:05,736 --> 00:43:07,576 Like, I feel like a couple years ago, 911 00:43:07,736 --> 00:43:10,536 we heard that, like, Block was going to use, like, 912 00:43:10,616 --> 00:43:15,496 Tesla's solar panels to, like, mine Bitcoin or something like that, 913 00:43:15,536 --> 00:43:16,616 like a few years ago. 914 00:43:17,056 --> 00:43:19,816 And I'm pretty sure, like, that was, like, announced maybe 915 00:43:19,816 --> 00:43:23,376 at one of the Miami Bitcoin conferences, and nothing came of it, 916 00:43:23,756 --> 00:43:25,936 or at least nothing that I've seen. 917 00:43:27,376 --> 00:43:30,916 And I feel like, you know, stuff like this, 918 00:43:30,916 --> 00:43:37,296 when it's like to this level of a scale for me it's always like all right like i hope so but 919 00:43:37,296 --> 00:43:43,636 wait and see um so not get like extremely bullish try to like temper the expectations because i think 920 00:43:43,636 --> 00:43:50,516 elon talks a talks a big game i mean he backs it up but um i think these things are going to take a 921 00:43:50,516 --> 00:43:55,876 little bit longer and the quality of the chips and all that like i think they're probably gonna 922 00:43:55,876 --> 00:43:58,896 it's going to take some time for them to master all of that. 923 00:43:59,656 --> 00:44:00,016 Absolutely. 924 00:44:00,136 --> 00:44:01,536 The other thing I wanted to say was, 925 00:44:01,956 --> 00:44:04,516 oh, one difference between the block deal and this deal is 926 00:44:04,516 --> 00:44:07,736 I don't think anyone's going to be competing with Elon on this 927 00:44:07,736 --> 00:44:08,676 until it succeeds. 928 00:44:08,976 --> 00:44:09,296 In contrast. 929 00:44:09,516 --> 00:44:10,276 We saw the other one, Kian. 930 00:44:10,416 --> 00:44:13,216 So there's another story we covered like a month ago 931 00:44:13,216 --> 00:44:16,436 about the space orbital AI satellites. 932 00:44:16,656 --> 00:44:17,756 It's doing the exact same thing. 933 00:44:18,216 --> 00:44:20,176 Yeah, but I think as a matter of scale, 934 00:44:20,296 --> 00:44:22,976 like I don't think anyone is going to be trying to vertically integrate. 935 00:44:22,976 --> 00:44:26,156 No, it was directly connected with Bezos. 936 00:44:26,276 --> 00:44:26,556 Remember? 937 00:44:26,856 --> 00:44:27,596 It was the exact same. 938 00:44:27,816 --> 00:44:30,256 They were producing their own chips, and they were going to send them into space? 939 00:44:30,276 --> 00:44:31,096 I believe so, yeah. 940 00:44:31,256 --> 00:44:31,536 Okay. 941 00:44:31,956 --> 00:44:33,376 At a terawatt scale? 942 00:44:33,776 --> 00:44:34,876 That's what I'm saying. 943 00:44:34,956 --> 00:44:36,936 A lot of this stuff feels like, oh, me too. 944 00:44:37,496 --> 00:44:38,756 It feels like, oh, you're doing that? 945 00:44:38,836 --> 00:44:39,456 Oh, so am I. 946 00:44:39,696 --> 00:44:40,716 It just, and that's what I'm saying. 947 00:44:40,816 --> 00:44:42,196 I didn't make that connection, so. 948 00:44:42,336 --> 00:44:43,576 Yeah, well, I just remember from the news. 949 00:44:43,976 --> 00:44:45,336 I didn't even know about Brandon's thing. 950 00:44:45,356 --> 00:44:46,236 I didn't know about that one. 951 00:44:46,276 --> 00:44:47,016 That's interesting. 952 00:44:47,396 --> 00:44:47,596 What? 953 00:44:47,596 --> 00:44:49,756 About the Bitcoin conference one in Miami. 954 00:44:49,756 --> 00:44:50,836 Yeah, I didn't even hear about that. 955 00:44:51,136 --> 00:44:51,736 I'll have to see. 956 00:44:51,816 --> 00:44:52,516 I'm going to look it up. 957 00:44:52,536 --> 00:44:52,796 Yeah. 958 00:44:52,976 --> 00:44:54,056 But that's what I'm trying to say. 959 00:44:54,116 --> 00:44:55,736 A lot of this stuff is just like Brandon says, 960 00:44:55,796 --> 00:44:56,556 just like wait and see. 961 00:44:56,776 --> 00:44:58,376 It is a thing until it isn't a thing. 962 00:44:58,836 --> 00:44:59,876 And most likely it's not a thing. 963 00:44:59,876 --> 00:45:00,876 Like the one with OpenAI, 964 00:45:01,056 --> 00:45:05,056 he was calling out your boy, Samma, on Twitter 965 00:45:05,056 --> 00:45:10,076 about his thing not going through in West Texas, 966 00:45:10,176 --> 00:45:11,636 I believe it was, or somewhere. 967 00:45:11,896 --> 00:45:15,216 Some collab they had with like NVIDIA or Oracle, one of those. 968 00:45:15,596 --> 00:45:17,376 Another point to make on this is that 969 00:45:17,376 --> 00:45:20,556 we actually have quite a few fabs already in Texas. 970 00:45:20,556 --> 00:45:27,336 I think Samsung has some pretty large, some of the largest fabs in the United States that are like, I think, North Austin. 971 00:45:27,796 --> 00:45:29,356 Yeah, they've been here for 20 years. 972 00:45:29,556 --> 00:45:36,856 I think they also, I think they got recent, like within the last few years, they added another factory or some big addition to it, 973 00:45:37,156 --> 00:45:39,256 an addition to another one in, I think, Arizona. 974 00:45:39,976 --> 00:45:42,336 That was like another campaign thing during the political campaign. 975 00:45:42,436 --> 00:45:43,916 I mean, I'm bullish. It's good for Austin. 976 00:45:43,916 --> 00:45:49,716 I mean, anything that happens for us is good, but I still think it's like a little bit premature. 977 00:45:50,856 --> 00:45:55,816 Car, I sent you the article on Slack if you want to look at that. 978 00:45:55,956 --> 00:45:56,956 It was from 2022. 979 00:45:58,836 --> 00:46:01,856 And it was actually Blockstream was involved as well. 980 00:46:02,176 --> 00:46:08,556 It was Tesla, Block, and Blockstream team up to mine Bitcoin off solar panels in Texas. 981 00:46:09,756 --> 00:46:10,236 2022. 982 00:46:10,236 --> 00:46:15,876 and then yeah see they announced it at that bitcoin miami conference oh that was the one 983 00:46:15,876 --> 00:46:19,496 that you just said right now yeah yeah you just you just can't believe anything until it actually 984 00:46:19,496 --> 00:46:24,756 breaks down that was like right when the bear market yeah i mean you know and a lot of this 985 00:46:24,756 --> 00:46:29,036 stuff like they're trying to announce it so they get the so they can start building up momentum 986 00:46:29,036 --> 00:46:34,116 to start bringing in the money right like you announce it and then you bring in the money you 987 00:46:34,116 --> 00:46:39,836 don't like bring in the money first and then announce it um specifically for for this yeah 988 00:46:39,836 --> 00:46:43,016 That was like four years ago, and I haven't heard anything since then. 989 00:46:44,816 --> 00:46:46,376 Block has pretty much gotten out of the mine. 990 00:46:46,436 --> 00:46:47,796 They're not interested in mining. 991 00:46:47,976 --> 00:46:49,756 I thought they were doing the mining thing, though. 992 00:46:49,876 --> 00:46:50,096 No. 993 00:46:50,336 --> 00:46:52,056 Well, they're building these rigs now. 994 00:46:52,536 --> 00:46:53,596 Oh, are they gone already? 995 00:46:53,996 --> 00:46:55,356 No, they're still building them. 996 00:46:55,436 --> 00:46:55,796 Oh, okay. 997 00:46:55,796 --> 00:46:56,916 But they were just producing. 998 00:46:56,976 --> 00:46:57,516 I was bullish on that. 999 00:46:57,516 --> 00:46:58,456 I don't think they were producing. 1000 00:46:58,696 --> 00:47:02,116 My recollection of that is I don't even think they were producing the chips on that. 1001 00:47:02,296 --> 00:47:02,656 Were they? 1002 00:47:02,916 --> 00:47:04,916 I thought they were just building the, like. 1003 00:47:04,976 --> 00:47:05,376 The harness. 1004 00:47:05,756 --> 00:47:08,096 Yeah, like everything else in the chips were sort of outsourced 1005 00:47:08,096 --> 00:47:09,876 so that they didn't have to play that game. 1006 00:47:10,036 --> 00:47:10,856 Oh, that's a bummer. 1007 00:47:11,116 --> 00:47:13,676 And I expect they don't want to play the game of being a minor either 1008 00:47:13,676 --> 00:47:16,016 and, like, sourcing power and stuff. 1009 00:47:16,096 --> 00:47:16,796 It's just really hard. 1010 00:47:16,896 --> 00:47:18,876 And this is not a diss on any of them 1011 00:47:18,876 --> 00:47:20,456 because these are fucking hard things to do. 1012 00:47:20,696 --> 00:47:21,476 Sorry for the cursing. 1013 00:47:21,816 --> 00:47:24,816 But I will say, though, that, like, 1014 00:47:24,856 --> 00:47:26,016 really hard things to do, 1015 00:47:26,136 --> 00:47:28,056 and you have a bad quarter, man, 1016 00:47:28,116 --> 00:47:29,956 and it doesn't come to fruition. 1017 00:47:30,036 --> 00:47:30,696 You've got to cut something. 1018 00:47:31,856 --> 00:47:32,936 These are bold ideas, though. 1019 00:47:32,936 --> 00:47:33,316 I love them. 1020 00:47:34,956 --> 00:47:36,216 Anyways, you got any other thoughts, Keon? 1021 00:47:36,216 --> 00:47:36,936 I feel like you got some more. 1022 00:47:37,216 --> 00:47:37,816 No, I'm good. 1023 00:47:37,816 --> 00:47:39,796 But I think we covered it. 1024 00:47:39,796 --> 00:47:43,316 I'm curious about, I should watch that Elon Musk opium, 1025 00:47:44,036 --> 00:47:46,836 like to the stars type of video that I've seen on social media. 1026 00:47:47,036 --> 00:47:49,456 It sounds like sci-fi. 1027 00:47:50,176 --> 00:47:52,496 Like he's basically selling nerd sci-fi dreams, 1028 00:47:52,736 --> 00:47:54,616 which is kind of a big deal to me. 1029 00:47:54,616 --> 00:47:56,376 I mean, I like the stuff that he does. 1030 00:47:58,716 --> 00:48:00,176 I like his Tesla stuff. 1031 00:48:00,596 --> 00:48:03,036 I was like way on the other side of Tesla for a long time. 1032 00:48:03,116 --> 00:48:03,976 Now I'm like back in. 1033 00:48:04,936 --> 00:48:06,796 He'll get you with us too if he's. 1034 00:48:06,796 --> 00:48:07,736 I know, that's what I'm saying. 1035 00:48:07,816 --> 00:48:12,596 like it that's my sense at least the other one i wanted to bring up this is like the the one that 1036 00:48:12,596 --> 00:48:18,596 the podcast is named after it's called the ozempicization of everything took my time on that 1037 00:48:18,596 --> 00:48:24,456 one um so this one's from kayla scanlon this was a really interesting article one of the things that 1038 00:48:24,456 --> 00:48:29,016 she's really touching on and like the way it starts it sounds like she's like almost like 1039 00:48:29,016 --> 00:48:35,536 really saying that like i am destroying my this i'm destroying my this i'm and like she goes into 1040 00:48:35,536 --> 00:48:41,816 this kind of like really like what starts off really dark and then she talks about how americans 1041 00:48:41,816 --> 00:48:47,536 loved optimization and she just goes through like ripping almost every ecosystem it's it's amazing 1042 00:48:47,536 --> 00:48:53,056 to read a lot of it i don't really agree with obviously because i work in like the startup 1043 00:48:53,056 --> 00:49:00,016 scene and like we're doing like bitcoin stuff which she also nails as well too but i think this 1044 00:49:00,016 --> 00:49:05,236 is just for coming from gen z and she says right here she says 80 of gen z and 75 of millennials 1045 00:49:05,236 --> 00:49:12,196 feel behind according to a survey uh she said this is mostly due to a response to financial 1046 00:49:12,196 --> 00:49:15,556 nihilism where people stop believing that the underlying economy is working for them 1047 00:49:15,556 --> 00:49:20,056 so they turn to gambling or some other seemingly quick fix instead of try to find stability 1048 00:49:20,056 --> 00:49:27,816 and she keeps harping on this whole message that um that industries and even people are starting to 1049 00:49:27,816 --> 00:49:32,636 monetize this nihilism through like through promising solutions then she starts going into 1050 00:49:32,636 --> 00:49:38,016 other people and my my whole point of bringing this up was not to like put blame on her or for 1051 00:49:38,016 --> 00:49:43,916 anything my whole point is just like to say that like this is really interesting and really uh kind 1052 00:49:43,916 --> 00:49:51,836 of like uh a counter to what a lot of stuff that we are doing in our own ecosystem and it kind of 1053 00:49:51,836 --> 00:49:55,216 tells me that then she's probably one of the biggest people that writes about this stuff from 1054 00:49:55,216 --> 00:50:01,176 like the gen z angle it's really fascinating that they feel this way and i just wanted to bring it 1055 00:50:01,176 --> 00:50:06,276 up and like she even yeah obviously egghead right like she even goes after him too as well 1056 00:50:06,276 --> 00:50:11,836 do you want to be liked or do you want to win and and she so she starts ripping into 1057 00:50:11,836 --> 00:50:17,396 people that are raising millions and millions of dollars a lot of it she's calling it scammy 1058 00:50:17,396 --> 00:50:21,696 she even goes after the word agency and she she's trying to figure out like how does 1059 00:50:21,696 --> 00:50:30,576 what actually oh look like i lost my screen here where is it that it's not moving that's never 1060 00:50:30,576 --> 00:50:38,256 happened anyway is this your vibe coded uh no this is like you can't alternative because somebody 1061 00:50:38,256 --> 00:50:42,496 wanted me to stop talking about it stop talking about it but uh yeah i just thought that was 1062 00:50:42,496 --> 00:50:48,616 really interesting oh there it goes it came back that's weird um yeah so she goes into that and 1063 00:50:48,616 --> 00:50:55,156 then she finally goes into what old capitalism was which was value productive capacity the ability 1064 00:50:55,156 --> 00:50:58,536 to make things as we all know that we're trying to get back to what trump is trying to get back to 1065 00:50:59,196 --> 00:51:00,736 And then she talks about financial capitalism, 1066 00:51:00,896 --> 00:51:03,376 valued cash flow rights, claims on future earnings. 1067 00:51:03,996 --> 00:51:06,896 And then she says like what we might call belief capitalism 1068 00:51:06,896 --> 00:51:08,916 is like basically narrative based. 1069 00:51:08,976 --> 00:51:11,396 And then this is where she accuses like the Bitcoin industry, 1070 00:51:11,576 --> 00:51:16,336 the crypto industry of it's actually not actual capital 1071 00:51:16,336 --> 00:51:17,536 that's being formed around. 1072 00:51:17,616 --> 00:51:18,916 It's all based around narrative. 1073 00:51:19,636 --> 00:51:21,496 And it's, dude, it stings. 1074 00:51:22,016 --> 00:51:24,076 But I feel like it's very important to read 1075 00:51:24,076 --> 00:51:26,696 what the other side disagrees with you on. 1076 00:51:26,696 --> 00:51:33,156 so she goes into a lot of it's like this one right here she goes financial nihilism is generational 1077 00:51:33,156 --> 00:51:37,176 more young americans say they feel behind financially and believe speculative investments 1078 00:51:37,176 --> 00:51:42,056 will help them reach their financial goals more effectively than traditional methods so before you 1079 00:51:42,056 --> 00:51:46,356 would be like oh i'm just going to go to college and then go to school and get a job like our 1080 00:51:46,356 --> 00:51:49,376 generation keon like where it's just like oh you'll probably work at google or you'll probably 1081 00:51:49,376 --> 00:51:55,196 just get like a really good job and then you'll be set for life right gen z doesn't feel that way 1082 00:51:55,196 --> 00:52:00,636 They feel like unless they get like the, the, unless they hit it big, um, they're not going 1083 00:52:00,636 --> 00:52:02,836 to be able to do anything as far as like get a house. 1084 00:52:03,376 --> 00:52:05,996 Obviously if I think for like millennials, it probably took them a little longer to get 1085 00:52:05,996 --> 00:52:07,096 a house than, than most. 1086 00:52:07,756 --> 00:52:13,316 But, um, yeah, she's just, she's just talking to her generation here. 1087 00:52:13,896 --> 00:52:20,316 Um, so does she, does she like identify the causes or is she mostly like surveying? 1088 00:52:20,536 --> 00:52:24,176 She's surveying the land and giving her like Gen Z perspective on it. 1089 00:52:24,176 --> 00:52:27,376 She even calls out like Polymarket is doing similar things. 1090 00:52:27,836 --> 00:52:33,216 It's interesting because it almost seems like she's getting a lot of things right with the beliefs that we believe in. 1091 00:52:33,596 --> 00:52:41,496 But it feels like to me, from my point of view, that as a Gen Z-er, this is my point of view, not hers, that it feels... 1092 00:52:41,496 --> 00:52:42,236 She's Gen Z. 1093 00:52:42,356 --> 00:52:42,576 Okay. 1094 00:52:42,576 --> 00:52:44,376 Yeah, it feels like she's helpless. 1095 00:52:44,376 --> 00:52:48,136 and there's no one that can possibly save her 1096 00:52:48,136 --> 00:52:50,936 unless she submits to this kind of like 1097 00:52:50,936 --> 00:52:54,816 ozempification of like the economy 1098 00:52:54,816 --> 00:52:57,716 and just go after really fast, easy things 1099 00:52:57,716 --> 00:53:00,076 that require a ton of like, 1100 00:53:00,956 --> 00:53:02,276 basically just like gambling. 1101 00:53:02,956 --> 00:53:05,236 And yeah, she even goes into the war stuff. 1102 00:53:05,736 --> 00:53:06,456 It's a great read. 1103 00:53:07,636 --> 00:53:09,736 Highly recommend reading it and subscribing. 1104 00:53:09,916 --> 00:53:12,396 It's worth getting the outside perspective. 1105 00:53:12,496 --> 00:53:13,956 This was actually shared on Stacker News, 1106 00:53:13,956 --> 00:53:17,436 which I was kind of shocked because I didn't know a lot of people knew about her, 1107 00:53:17,516 --> 00:53:19,076 but apparently they do. 1108 00:53:19,796 --> 00:53:22,056 Anyways, Brandon, I'm going to go to you first 1109 00:53:22,056 --> 00:53:25,356 because I feel like you know all this angle more than I do, 1110 00:53:25,396 --> 00:53:27,676 and I didn't plan on this that you were going to be on the show, 1111 00:53:27,996 --> 00:53:29,056 and we were going to talk about this, 1112 00:53:29,336 --> 00:53:32,056 but I would like to get your angle on this because you're not Gen Z. 1113 00:53:32,056 --> 00:53:34,296 You're more like right above it a little bit, right? 1114 00:53:34,456 --> 00:53:38,316 Yeah, I think I'm on the last year of millennial or something, 1115 00:53:38,316 --> 00:53:55,996 But, I mean, I think it's the way I view all of this is, I mean, what is what the products that are like kind of making waves right now are like peptides and, you know, obviously like gambling, all of these different odds makers. 1116 00:53:56,256 --> 00:53:58,496 These things have been around for a while. 1117 00:53:59,516 --> 00:54:04,536 And, you know, peptides and Ozempic, like they're all kind of one in the same. 1118 00:54:05,836 --> 00:54:07,276 What's the Ozempic thing again? 1119 00:54:07,276 --> 00:54:08,476 Is that the weight loss thing? 1120 00:54:08,616 --> 00:54:09,396 Yeah, weight loss. 1121 00:54:09,396 --> 00:54:09,796 Oh, yeah. 1122 00:54:09,936 --> 00:54:13,816 But instead of like a magic pill, it's like a shot, basically. 1123 00:54:13,816 --> 00:54:15,856 So instead of like working out and like, yeah. 1124 00:54:15,856 --> 00:54:20,056 Yeah, and I mean, these things have been around like for a while, like the 70s, 80s. 1125 00:54:20,096 --> 00:54:24,956 They tried to sell you magic pills so you could lose weight instead of having to actually put in the work. 1126 00:54:25,136 --> 00:54:26,896 And those were just like antiphetamines, weren't they? 1127 00:54:27,016 --> 00:54:32,376 Yeah, and I think at the end of the day, it's all just kind of like a marketer's dream, like all of these things. 1128 00:54:32,376 --> 00:54:36,676 It's like the difference is that these things like work for as intended, 1129 00:54:36,856 --> 00:54:38,476 but the side effects are just unknown. 1130 00:54:39,056 --> 00:54:41,336 And so people are usually like, hey, you know, 1131 00:54:41,396 --> 00:54:46,136 if I can take Ozempic and maybe it takes 10 years off my life, 1132 00:54:46,136 --> 00:54:48,616 I'd rather look skinny now or something like that, you know? 1133 00:54:49,816 --> 00:54:52,696 And so I think, you know, we're just as humans, 1134 00:54:52,696 --> 00:54:57,056 we're just kind of like programmed to want these dopamine hits. 1135 00:54:57,056 --> 00:55:05,856 but I think what people feel about like Gen Z and you know everything about the losing attention 1136 00:55:05,856 --> 00:55:10,936 spans wanting the the quick you know hitters and everything like that I think it's just they're 1137 00:55:10,936 --> 00:55:17,376 showing these messages more they have more access to gambling I mean people have been more you know 1138 00:55:17,376 --> 00:55:23,616 you get fed ads about Cal Sheet, DraftKings, all that kind of stuff as at like a young age so 1139 00:55:23,616 --> 00:55:29,176 they're just more prone to do that but i i think that narrative is almost overplayed in my eyes 1140 00:55:29,176 --> 00:55:35,396 um because i think like a lot of people say gen z you know their attention spans are short because 1141 00:55:35,396 --> 00:55:42,916 of tiktok and instagram and all these things um and like long form content is dead uh i kind of 1142 00:55:42,916 --> 00:55:48,956 think the opposite i think that there's just more competition for our attention so you know the 1143 00:55:48,956 --> 00:55:54,436 reality is is like the short form content it's easier to make a good one minute video than it is 1144 00:55:54,436 --> 00:55:59,796 to make a good hour long video yeah so she calls that looks maxing what you're talking about yeah 1145 00:55:59,796 --> 00:56:05,696 it's yeah well i mean it was like this guy is the paragraph above is like this guy clavicular like i 1146 00:56:05,696 --> 00:56:10,696 mean i see him all over but basically it's this one guy that like because of social media he 1147 00:56:10,696 --> 00:56:17,256 started taking all of these different peptides at like 18 19 and like kind of trying to maximize 1148 00:56:17,256 --> 00:56:19,356 his looks. I think the craziest thing 1149 00:56:19,356 --> 00:56:21,416 he did was hit himself with a 1150 00:56:21,416 --> 00:56:21,736 hammer. 1151 00:56:22,836 --> 00:56:25,356 Didn't he get his jaw shaved? I think there was 1152 00:56:25,356 --> 00:56:27,276 another interview, it might have been a joke, where he was talking 1153 00:56:27,276 --> 00:56:29,076 about taking methamphetamines 1154 00:56:29,076 --> 00:56:31,156 to suppress his appetite. 1155 00:56:31,576 --> 00:56:32,856 Yeah, doing crazy. 1156 00:56:33,056 --> 00:56:35,176 He's been talking about just doing crazy stuff. 1157 00:56:35,176 --> 00:56:36,556 Is it this guy right here? No. 1158 00:56:36,956 --> 00:56:38,496 This is Brian Johnson. 1159 00:56:38,796 --> 00:56:41,236 I think he sold one major tech 1160 00:56:41,236 --> 00:56:43,296 company. Braintree, which is like a 1161 00:56:43,296 --> 00:56:44,656 payments company around the Stripe era. 1162 00:56:44,656 --> 00:56:46,096 Oh, he sold that to Ibiza? 1163 00:56:46,476 --> 00:56:46,876 Wow. 1164 00:56:47,356 --> 00:56:51,116 Yeah, so now his whole thing is basically trying to... 1165 00:56:51,116 --> 00:56:51,676 Live forever. 1166 00:56:52,136 --> 00:56:53,736 ...anti-age, essentially. 1167 00:56:55,476 --> 00:56:59,636 But, I mean, the thing with, like, all of this stuff is... 1168 00:56:59,636 --> 00:57:02,736 Well, she calls that the exemplification of... 1169 00:57:02,736 --> 00:57:04,536 What was the title again? 1170 00:57:04,616 --> 00:57:05,876 The economy, though. 1171 00:57:05,876 --> 00:57:06,996 That's what she's kind of calling it. 1172 00:57:06,996 --> 00:57:09,176 Yeah, like, he's just trying to live longer, 1173 00:57:09,516 --> 00:57:13,816 and, like, by doing that, he's, like, just taking a bunch of stuff, 1174 00:57:13,816 --> 00:57:24,216 And I think, like, the reality is, is, like, instead of, you know, doing all the red light therapy, all of, you know, it's just, like, eat natural foods and just exercise and be outside more. 1175 00:57:24,436 --> 00:57:26,696 I mean, it's just kind of, like, the simple stuff. 1176 00:57:26,836 --> 00:57:30,656 I'll just say from my point of view, just as, like, this is a millennial, by the way. 1177 00:57:30,836 --> 00:57:31,136 Yeah. 1178 00:57:31,816 --> 00:57:33,056 But I will just say this. 1179 00:57:33,096 --> 00:57:35,276 Like, it's cool to see Gen Z. 1180 00:57:35,916 --> 00:57:40,996 Like, they're either all the way on this side, which it sounds like she is, or all the way on the other side. 1181 00:57:40,996 --> 00:57:43,716 There's no fucking middle with Gen Z, which I love. 1182 00:57:43,816 --> 00:57:45,656 Because I feel like millennials, like our generation, 1183 00:57:46,176 --> 00:57:47,516 there's a lot of people in the fucking middle. 1184 00:57:47,676 --> 00:57:49,396 They just won't pick a side because they're afraid to, like, 1185 00:57:49,396 --> 00:57:50,396 lose their career or something. 1186 00:57:50,636 --> 00:57:54,056 And that's the biggest problem that we have with the millennial generation. 1187 00:57:54,296 --> 00:57:57,436 It's just too many people want to, what you called earlier, 1188 00:57:58,036 --> 00:58:00,776 courting aristocrats or something. 1189 00:58:00,776 --> 00:58:02,336 Yeah, caring what people think. 1190 00:58:02,556 --> 00:58:05,216 Yeah, caring what people think as opposed to just, like, picking a side. 1191 00:58:05,696 --> 00:58:07,336 But Gen Z doesn't seem to have that problem. 1192 00:58:07,536 --> 00:58:09,696 Yeah, I think, like, Gen Z cares a little. 1193 00:58:09,836 --> 00:58:13,156 Like, it's different, though, because, like, Gen Z will go make a stupid video 1194 00:58:13,156 --> 00:58:14,076 and post it on the internet. 1195 00:58:15,136 --> 00:58:17,796 But they'll want to make sure that they look good in it, I guess, 1196 00:58:17,836 --> 00:58:20,136 and, like, kind of have that control behind it. 1197 00:58:20,276 --> 00:58:22,256 Where, like, the millennial generation is, like, 1198 00:58:22,296 --> 00:58:23,816 too afraid to even post anything 1199 00:58:23,816 --> 00:58:25,656 and, like, kind of put themselves out there 1200 00:58:25,656 --> 00:58:29,956 to the point where, you know, that's, like, they just won't. 1201 00:58:30,056 --> 00:58:32,316 They'll just, like, sacrifice that because they're afraid. 1202 00:58:32,776 --> 00:58:34,056 I would say, Kayla, if you're watching, 1203 00:58:34,336 --> 00:58:35,256 you're a future Bitcoiner. 1204 00:58:35,356 --> 00:58:36,156 You don't even know it. 1205 00:58:36,256 --> 00:58:36,956 That's what I'll say. 1206 00:58:37,656 --> 00:58:37,816 Yeah. 1207 00:58:37,816 --> 00:58:39,916 I think she's seen a lot of the stuff she's saying 1208 00:58:39,916 --> 00:58:41,536 is on point with Bitcoin only, 1209 00:58:41,536 --> 00:58:45,136 but she's lumping us into the crypto space, which is entirely different. 1210 00:58:45,816 --> 00:58:48,776 It doesn't mean that some of that doesn't spill over into the Bitcoin space, 1211 00:58:49,156 --> 00:58:53,936 but when you talk about like Bitcoin only things, like that's a human endeavor 1212 00:58:53,936 --> 00:58:57,056 and that's something that should be congratulated if you're watching. 1213 00:58:57,716 --> 00:59:01,396 Well, and I think the second thing that she talked about too, and she cited Coinbase. 1214 00:59:02,036 --> 00:59:03,536 Yeah, that's a wrong company side. 1215 00:59:03,956 --> 00:59:07,276 Yeah, I mean, but the interesting thing about what Coinbase is doing is like, 1216 00:59:07,276 --> 00:59:09,496 I don't know if you guys noticed this or saw this, 1217 00:59:09,496 --> 00:59:12,296 but Coinbase, like, their last earnings call, 1218 00:59:12,776 --> 00:59:15,736 they did it as, like, Brian Armstrong was, like, talking on the bottom, 1219 00:59:15,916 --> 00:59:19,216 and then the top is, like, I don't know, it was, like, a TikTok video. 1220 00:59:19,336 --> 00:59:23,076 It was, like, whatever that, there was, like, one old phone game 1221 00:59:23,076 --> 00:59:25,796 where essentially, like, you were running, and it was, like, trains and stuff. 1222 00:59:25,856 --> 00:59:28,396 You had to go get, I don't know, you had to, like, avoid it. 1223 00:59:28,456 --> 00:59:31,716 Basically, like, maybe, I don't know, Dune Runner or something like that. 1224 00:59:31,876 --> 00:59:35,176 Either way, they, basically, it's, like, a cop, 1225 00:59:35,176 --> 00:59:40,976 it's a pretty popular TikTok style to do one talking head on like half of it and then have 1226 00:59:40,976 --> 00:59:47,156 somebody else distracted by watching this game on the top and they did that for their earnings call 1227 00:59:47,156 --> 00:59:53,016 but Coinbase like lost they had like their biggest loss in an earnings call in a while and they put 1228 00:59:53,016 --> 00:59:57,776 that out as like a video behind it and it's like what are we what are we doing here really right 1229 00:59:57,776 --> 01:00:03,496 it's like kind of like still simulating the whole distraction so I mean I totally get where she's 1230 01:00:03,496 --> 01:00:07,976 coming from when she's citing coinbase and if you're lumping in you don't know the difference 1231 01:00:07,976 --> 01:00:13,936 between bitcoin and crypto and you're lumping them in that way i mean it it makes sense to me 1232 01:00:13,936 --> 01:00:18,176 because when i should come on the keys podcast she needs to come on green candle then she's got 1233 01:00:18,176 --> 01:00:23,056 to come on stacker news live this is covering it she might you never know yeah but anyway it's a 1234 01:00:23,056 --> 01:00:27,096 really good article i highly recommend steggers read it it's a really it's a really it's well 1235 01:00:27,096 --> 01:00:33,196 written too it's like you can you can feel the the passion the soul the heart all in it and i 1236 01:00:33,196 --> 01:00:39,616 believe what she's writing is what she's saying is true it's good it's good stuff anyways that's it 1237 01:00:39,616 --> 01:00:44,816 keanu have any final thoughts before we move on uh do i have any thoughts on that i like what 1238 01:00:44,816 --> 01:00:51,916 brandon said about uh like gen z not being like structurally different than millennials or other 1239 01:00:51,916 --> 01:00:55,956 generations it's just like the technology has sort of been weaponized towards them and they're 1240 01:00:55,956 --> 01:01:02,236 and there's like more competition and um among weapons trying to get people's attention attention 1241 01:01:02,236 --> 01:01:07,016 weapons trying to get people's attention i thought that was cool um i definitely think that is 1242 01:01:07,016 --> 01:01:13,556 probably true i do think there is a you know as part there are the side effects of that where 1243 01:01:13,556 --> 01:01:17,156 uh culture has become at least online culture has become a lot more visual 1244 01:01:17,156 --> 01:01:25,896 um and i think that that is what causes looks maxing which is like related to uh the ozempic 1245 01:01:25,896 --> 01:01:32,896 stuff which is like well i don't exist if i'm not the right body size like is why i don't present 1246 01:01:32,896 --> 01:01:38,096 the right way online and people can't see my personality really true look at me i made a 1247 01:01:38,096 --> 01:01:42,696 whole career off of it yeah but i know but you know but i think it you know some people maybe 1248 01:01:42,696 --> 01:01:45,956 they don't have a they don't have much of a personality or they can't they don't they don't 1249 01:01:45,956 --> 01:01:49,776 know how to present their personality people are car yeah yeah i don't want i don't want to 1250 01:01:49,776 --> 01:01:53,236 compliment you and try to avoid that as much as possible but i know what you're saying i was just 1251 01:01:53,236 --> 01:01:54,636 Yeah, for sure. 1252 01:01:55,976 --> 01:01:57,316 Yeah, but I think that... 1253 01:01:57,316 --> 01:01:58,376 Are you looks maxing right now, Keon? 1254 01:01:58,736 --> 01:01:59,316 Nah, dude. 1255 01:02:00,676 --> 01:02:01,896 I'm looks minning, bro. 1256 01:02:03,836 --> 01:02:05,596 Are you looks maxing right now, Brandon? 1257 01:02:05,956 --> 01:02:06,916 I don't know, man. 1258 01:02:06,936 --> 01:02:07,656 I don't know what that means. 1259 01:02:07,896 --> 01:02:08,236 I don't know. 1260 01:02:08,336 --> 01:02:09,256 We just looked it up. 1261 01:02:09,296 --> 01:02:10,256 It turns out it's a thing. 1262 01:02:10,296 --> 01:02:11,156 Is it because of the hat? 1263 01:02:11,436 --> 01:02:11,896 You think so? 1264 01:02:11,916 --> 01:02:13,676 Oh, he is kind of looks maxing a little bit. 1265 01:02:13,676 --> 01:02:13,696 I don't know. 1266 01:02:13,696 --> 01:02:16,116 That jaw looks like you might have shaved a bit. 1267 01:02:16,156 --> 01:02:17,356 Oh, now he's looks maxing. 1268 01:02:18,416 --> 01:02:20,376 I'm going to start using that term around Janet. 1269 01:02:20,476 --> 01:02:21,256 It's going to drive her nuts. 1270 01:02:21,276 --> 01:02:21,776 I can't wait. 1271 01:02:22,016 --> 01:02:22,676 Yeah, yeah. 1272 01:02:22,676 --> 01:02:23,836 You're gonna use it wrong. 1273 01:02:23,836 --> 01:02:24,676 And he's wrong. 1274 01:02:24,676 --> 01:02:37,954 I be like look I looks She gonna love it Okay cool The next one coop is mogging somebody said all right the next one is uh yeah so we covered the ai stuff we 1275 01:02:37,954 --> 01:02:44,674 gonna jump into my stuff i think the coolest thing here is the dusty so dusty just got his uh 1276 01:02:46,114 --> 01:02:52,274 his channel splicing merge is was that his is that dusty's or no i think no dusty i think dusty 1277 01:02:52,274 --> 01:02:55,974 contributed significantly to the spec i think you had the first working implementation of it done 1278 01:02:55,974 --> 01:03:00,894 in seal and core lightning okay um with the help of nifty and rusty russell and i assume 1279 01:03:00,894 --> 01:03:05,754 t-bass as well can you give us the high level to the stackers what is splicing yeah i know that's 1280 01:03:05,754 --> 01:03:09,674 important to phoenix and other yeah so before splicing if you had a if you had a channel a 1281 01:03:09,674 --> 01:03:15,914 lightning channel capacity of like a million sats and you wanted to receive you know two million sats 1282 01:03:15,914 --> 01:03:21,654 you had to close that channel and and open a larger channel or you had to or you could keep 1283 01:03:21,654 --> 01:03:28,654 that channel open and open a second channel and then do a payment split across both channels. 1284 01:03:29,494 --> 01:03:34,454 What channel splicing allows you to do is take on-chain funds and resize an existing channel. 1285 01:03:34,634 --> 01:03:39,774 And so that's what you get. That's the user experience that you get in Phoenix is 1286 01:03:39,774 --> 01:03:43,094 where you just have one channel and that's all you really have to concern yourself with. 1287 01:03:43,234 --> 01:03:48,574 That is a result of channel splicing. And that is what we're seeing now pop up across most wallet 1288 01:03:48,574 --> 01:03:52,954 implementations. I think Lexi has the same thing. They only have one channel because LDK is splicing 1289 01:03:52,954 --> 01:04:00,954 in it now. And so these get merged, I believe, when two implementations have implemented the spec, 1290 01:04:01,474 --> 01:04:05,274 or maybe it's three. Oh, no, yeah, it's three implementations have implemented a spec. So at 1291 01:04:05,274 --> 01:04:12,214 first we had Async and Phoenix, they implemented channel splicing. Then we had, oh no, Core Lightning, 1292 01:04:12,314 --> 01:04:16,974 then Phoenix. And now we have Lexi, which is using LDK. So we have three Lightning implementations 1293 01:04:16,974 --> 01:04:21,654 using channel splicing, it gets merged into the Bolt repo. 1294 01:04:22,374 --> 01:04:22,774 That's awesome. 1295 01:04:23,094 --> 01:04:24,254 And so that's how it became real. 1296 01:04:24,274 --> 01:04:25,134 Dude, did I know that 2,000 stars? 1297 01:04:25,974 --> 01:04:27,074 That's wild, dude. 1298 01:04:27,734 --> 01:04:29,094 They have 2,000 stars on their Git. 1299 01:04:29,294 --> 01:04:29,674 Yeah. 1300 01:04:30,394 --> 01:04:31,074 I can't lie. 1301 01:04:31,114 --> 01:04:31,674 I'm not locked in. 1302 01:04:31,774 --> 01:04:34,954 Well, that's the spec repo for Lightning stuff. 1303 01:04:35,054 --> 01:04:36,394 That's really not a whole lot of stars. 1304 01:04:36,394 --> 01:04:38,094 I mean, what does OpenClaw have now? 1305 01:04:38,294 --> 01:04:39,594 1.5 million or something? 1306 01:04:39,594 --> 01:04:39,934 I don't know. 1307 01:04:39,994 --> 01:04:42,834 To me, I mean, I see a lot of other repos now that I'm a coder. 1308 01:04:43,534 --> 01:04:44,254 Oh, that's right. 1309 01:04:44,354 --> 01:04:44,834 Yeah, dude. 1310 01:04:45,094 --> 01:04:46,134 Yeah, big-time coder. 1311 01:04:46,134 --> 01:04:47,154 I'm just coding, bro. 1312 01:04:47,214 --> 01:04:47,954 I'm just coding, bro. 1313 01:04:48,134 --> 01:04:49,934 I'm going to move to CMUX here this weekend. 1314 01:04:49,954 --> 01:04:50,694 Don't hate the player at the game. 1315 01:04:50,694 --> 01:04:52,234 But 2,000, that's a lot. 1316 01:04:53,174 --> 01:04:53,974 No, it's not nothing. 1317 01:04:54,034 --> 01:04:58,134 So it was funny because we had on Chain Code last week, 1318 01:04:58,754 --> 01:05:00,754 two weeks ago at the rodeo, 1319 01:05:00,834 --> 01:05:05,474 and they were talking about the AI slop that people are submitting to the PR stuff. 1320 01:05:06,154 --> 01:05:10,954 And then Dusty, he did this amazing PR review. 1321 01:05:11,294 --> 01:05:12,574 I won't let you play it. 1322 01:05:12,854 --> 01:05:13,714 Oh, man, it sucks. 1323 01:05:14,134 --> 01:05:15,414 Anyway, it's right here at the bottom. 1324 01:05:15,414 --> 01:05:16,474 Let's play it there. 1325 01:05:16,714 --> 01:05:19,254 I'm Dusty, and this is Dusty Coates. 1326 01:05:19,874 --> 01:05:25,754 So he goes into it, and he's reviewing a PR about Zero Conf Spices, 1327 01:05:26,454 --> 01:05:28,474 and, man, it's just hilarious. 1328 01:05:29,154 --> 01:05:30,654 Because, you know, Dusty's a good guy, 1329 01:05:30,754 --> 01:05:35,574 but he's just tearing into this dude that's probably using Vibe Coded stuff a little bit. 1330 01:05:36,454 --> 01:05:40,774 But I think it's a good watch, and I saw that he dropped another one today. 1331 01:05:41,434 --> 01:05:42,854 I'm probably going to watch that, too. 1332 01:05:42,854 --> 01:05:46,474 It's just fun to see, because Dusty's such a funny dude, 1333 01:05:46,914 --> 01:05:49,014 and then seeing him review code is just hilarious. 1334 01:05:49,154 --> 01:05:50,554 I think you learn something at the same time. 1335 01:05:51,234 --> 01:05:56,694 It's like, it hits all the right places for people that are interested in this kind of stuff. 1336 01:05:57,234 --> 01:05:57,954 Dusty's a legend. 1337 01:05:58,254 --> 01:05:58,854 Yeah, he's a legend. 1338 01:05:59,974 --> 01:06:01,074 Anyways, did you watch it, Keon? 1339 01:06:01,154 --> 01:06:02,194 I posted it in the slime thing. 1340 01:06:02,634 --> 01:06:04,354 I saw it, but I did not watch it. 1341 01:06:04,374 --> 01:06:05,514 I didn't know what it was about. 1342 01:06:06,934 --> 01:06:08,914 He's got an hour review of this, man. 1343 01:06:08,994 --> 01:06:09,734 He went in. 1344 01:06:10,354 --> 01:06:11,534 I think it went viral, right? 1345 01:06:11,534 --> 01:06:13,674 because a lot of people were sharing it and liking it. 1346 01:06:15,414 --> 01:06:16,354 I believe so. 1347 01:06:16,434 --> 01:06:17,734 Does he actually get into the code? 1348 01:06:17,914 --> 01:06:19,034 He does, yeah. 1349 01:06:19,314 --> 01:06:21,414 But the way he does it is just hilarious. 1350 01:06:22,234 --> 01:06:24,114 Sounds like he's setting us up here. 1351 01:06:24,114 --> 01:06:25,454 Yeah, exactly. 1352 01:06:25,454 --> 01:06:30,514 I definitely think what Keyes was saying earlier, 1353 01:06:30,694 --> 01:06:31,534 I think Keyes is right. 1354 01:06:31,734 --> 01:06:34,194 I think there needs to be more devs doing what Dusty's doing right now 1355 01:06:34,194 --> 01:06:37,274 and building up their social thing. 1356 01:06:37,394 --> 01:06:38,254 Putting himself out there. 1357 01:06:38,514 --> 01:06:40,914 Yeah, because people want to see your personality, right? 1358 01:06:41,534 --> 01:06:44,434 They want to know that, you know what I mean? 1359 01:06:44,614 --> 01:06:48,034 Hey, man, now I trust Dusty to look over my vibe-coated coat. 1360 01:06:48,114 --> 01:06:49,094 Oh, there you go. 1361 01:06:49,194 --> 01:06:49,874 Look at that. 1362 01:06:49,974 --> 01:06:50,614 Look at that. 1363 01:06:51,014 --> 01:06:51,614 Right there. 1364 01:06:52,514 --> 01:06:53,154 That's how you do it. 1365 01:06:53,214 --> 01:06:54,954 We need more looks, Maxine. 1366 01:06:55,174 --> 01:06:55,974 Is that how you use it? 1367 01:06:56,594 --> 01:06:57,594 I don't think so. 1368 01:06:58,974 --> 01:06:59,334 Anyways. 1369 01:06:59,554 --> 01:07:03,534 No, it's like when you're fine, Carr, when you go way out of your way to look good. 1370 01:07:03,774 --> 01:07:04,294 Oh, wow. 1371 01:07:04,494 --> 01:07:05,794 Yeah, but way out of your way. 1372 01:07:05,874 --> 01:07:06,374 Oh, man. 1373 01:07:06,434 --> 01:07:07,694 Yeah, you're like smoking meth. 1374 01:07:07,694 --> 01:07:09,554 That only happens for the ladies, not you guys. 1375 01:07:09,614 --> 01:07:09,934 I'm sorry. 1376 01:07:09,934 --> 01:07:12,214 Well, that's what it's aimed at. 1377 01:07:12,394 --> 01:07:13,554 Oh, can you grab another one? 1378 01:07:16,134 --> 01:07:17,214 Oh, go for it then. 1379 01:07:17,674 --> 01:07:19,674 Clavicular, that guy, he was... 1380 01:07:19,674 --> 01:07:21,014 It was a 12-pack, wasn't it? 1381 01:07:21,114 --> 01:07:21,274 Yeah. 1382 01:07:21,554 --> 01:07:22,494 No, it was a six-pack. 1383 01:07:25,314 --> 01:07:26,214 Pleb devs, man. 1384 01:07:27,314 --> 01:07:27,874 No moss. 1385 01:07:28,094 --> 01:07:28,494 No moss. 1386 01:07:28,574 --> 01:07:28,934 It's all good. 1387 01:07:30,394 --> 01:07:30,754 Cool. 1388 01:07:32,354 --> 01:07:33,414 Wait, did you have something else to say? 1389 01:07:33,474 --> 01:07:33,794 I'm sorry. 1390 01:07:33,954 --> 01:07:35,314 We were trying to figure out the beer situation. 1391 01:07:35,414 --> 01:07:36,514 Oh, no, it was just about... 1392 01:07:36,514 --> 01:07:38,994 it was about Lux Maxine. 1393 01:07:39,414 --> 01:07:43,954 The reason why Clavicular became such an influencer 1394 01:07:43,954 --> 01:07:45,054 is he was like an incel. 1395 01:07:45,654 --> 01:07:49,414 If you look at his before and after photos, 1396 01:07:49,634 --> 01:07:52,074 he was like a zitty teen, 1397 01:07:53,274 --> 01:07:55,874 bad skin, and kind of weird. 1398 01:07:57,114 --> 01:07:58,554 So they used to make fun of him or something? 1399 01:07:59,474 --> 01:08:00,794 No, they wouldn't make fun of him. 1400 01:08:00,854 --> 01:08:02,514 He just couldn't get laid 1401 01:08:02,514 --> 01:08:05,274 because he didn't present the right way 1402 01:08:05,274 --> 01:08:09,814 that would allow him to get laid by the caliber of woman probably that he wanted to 1403 01:08:09,814 --> 01:08:12,494 and still maybe have his personality, which is maybe not great. 1404 01:08:12,654 --> 01:08:13,214 Oh, poor guy. 1405 01:08:14,154 --> 01:08:18,134 Yeah, so he looks maxed, and now he's just an influencer king. 1406 01:08:18,734 --> 01:08:26,174 We know who he is, and he's got all these look-maxing ladies in his pen. 1407 01:08:26,774 --> 01:08:29,694 I saw he was doing some crazy stream, like, I don't know, 1408 01:08:30,274 --> 01:08:33,854 three a month or something like that where he was streaming every day. 1409 01:08:33,854 --> 01:08:36,074 I think he recently got arrested. 1410 01:08:36,574 --> 01:08:39,334 So I might be breaking news on Stacker News Live here. 1411 01:08:39,874 --> 01:08:43,754 But I was perusing on my Twitter account today, 1412 01:08:43,874 --> 01:08:47,614 and I saw a TMZ photo of his mug shot. 1413 01:08:47,714 --> 01:08:48,694 Well, hopefully he's okay. 1414 01:08:48,934 --> 01:08:50,374 I mean, you'd like to see that. 1415 01:08:50,714 --> 01:08:54,214 I guess that's a good segue to caffeine, cocaine, and painkillers 1416 01:08:54,214 --> 01:08:55,674 detected in sharks from the Bahamas. 1417 01:08:56,194 --> 01:08:57,774 So I found this little dime. 1418 01:08:57,774 --> 01:08:58,934 This is a Florida story. 1419 01:08:59,034 --> 01:08:59,634 I found this dime. 1420 01:08:59,634 --> 01:09:04,274 This is a first report of CCs detected in shark serum from the Bahamas. 1421 01:09:04,914 --> 01:09:06,354 It has all the ones I just mentioned. 1422 01:09:06,994 --> 01:09:11,394 In three shark species, sharks with CCs showed altered, how do you say that word? 1423 01:09:11,954 --> 01:09:14,914 Triglycerides, urea, and lactate levels. 1424 01:09:15,274 --> 01:09:15,594 Urea. 1425 01:09:16,094 --> 01:09:16,774 I'm sorry. 1426 01:09:17,474 --> 01:09:21,354 Findings highlight emerging pollution risk in seemingly pristine ecosystems. 1427 01:09:22,234 --> 01:09:23,954 Keon, can you explain how this would work? 1428 01:09:23,954 --> 01:09:27,894 I thought they just ate humans and then they just got humans were snuggling drugs or something. 1429 01:09:28,194 --> 01:09:29,374 No, I didn't read this. 1430 01:09:29,374 --> 01:09:32,714 So I don't really know how it works, but it sounds like probably just pollution. 1431 01:09:33,294 --> 01:09:38,674 Like drugs are not breaking down before they reach the oceans, more or less. 1432 01:09:39,054 --> 01:09:41,774 You know, like we have a lot of plastic in oceans, mercury in oceans. 1433 01:09:41,774 --> 01:09:42,114 But cocaine, though? 1434 01:09:42,254 --> 01:09:43,554 Like that doesn't make any sense. 1435 01:09:43,614 --> 01:09:45,954 I feel like that would melt in the ocean. 1436 01:09:46,714 --> 01:09:50,174 I feel like they're probably just smuggling, like people are smuggling it. 1437 01:09:50,294 --> 01:09:50,954 With the sharks? 1438 01:09:51,474 --> 01:09:56,034 Well, no, I mean they're probably smuggling it, like on boats or on a plane, 1439 01:09:56,034 --> 01:09:59,414 and the plane crashes and then they have it like wrapped significantly. 1440 01:09:59,414 --> 01:10:00,914 Ted, are you on the call right now? 1441 01:10:01,914 --> 01:10:02,454 Come here. 1442 01:10:02,574 --> 01:10:03,514 Take a look at this. 1443 01:10:04,034 --> 01:10:04,894 Ted will explain it. 1444 01:10:05,174 --> 01:10:05,654 Okay, Ted. 1445 01:10:05,714 --> 01:10:07,254 So there's these sharks, right? 1446 01:10:07,774 --> 01:10:13,134 And they detected that they have cocaine, all these other amphetamines, and caffeine. 1447 01:10:14,214 --> 01:10:15,514 How is this possible? 1448 01:10:16,754 --> 01:10:17,534 Tell us, Ted. 1449 01:10:18,194 --> 01:10:20,834 How did the sharks, the sharks are eating drug addicts? 1450 01:10:20,834 --> 01:10:21,434 Is that what's happening? 1451 01:10:21,454 --> 01:10:22,174 That's what I thought. 1452 01:10:22,174 --> 01:10:23,194 That's what I thought. 1453 01:10:23,194 --> 01:10:27,094 What else would they, unless there's massive amounts of cocaine on the bottom of the sea? 1454 01:10:27,534 --> 01:10:30,134 There's probably a lot of cocaine on the bottom of the sea, though. 1455 01:10:30,174 --> 01:10:34,894 If you think about these boats smuggling, and then maybe they get pulled over or something, 1456 01:10:34,974 --> 01:10:39,134 they just throw the cocaine off the boat? 1457 01:10:40,814 --> 01:10:41,414 That's what I would think. 1458 01:10:41,414 --> 01:10:41,794 Yeah. 1459 01:10:41,794 --> 01:10:47,554 He trumps bombing so many drug people that all the drug people end up at the bottom? 1460 01:10:47,814 --> 01:10:48,014 Yeah. 1461 01:10:48,154 --> 01:10:49,374 He was bombing those Venezuelan boats. 1462 01:10:49,374 --> 01:10:50,714 But it's a whole study, though. 1463 01:10:50,774 --> 01:10:51,914 They're trying to figure it out. 1464 01:10:51,914 --> 01:10:54,134 So there is something with concentration, right? 1465 01:10:54,194 --> 01:10:57,394 Is that certain chemicals do bioconcentrate with bigger... 1466 01:10:57,394 --> 01:11:00,554 So if the shark eats a fish and the fish eats a plankton and the plankton... 1467 01:11:00,554 --> 01:11:04,874 So they're just the apex predator that's just eating everything then, it sounds like. 1468 01:11:06,074 --> 01:11:06,594 Yeah, exactly. 1469 01:11:06,594 --> 01:11:07,874 Including whatever they have in them. 1470 01:11:07,994 --> 01:11:08,714 That makes more sense. 1471 01:11:08,714 --> 01:11:10,814 So the problem is tuna has mercury, right? 1472 01:11:10,894 --> 01:11:13,394 So maybe is mercury similar to cocaine? 1473 01:11:13,534 --> 01:11:15,854 I would think that cocaine would be different, right? 1474 01:11:15,894 --> 01:11:16,414 It's not a metal. 1475 01:11:16,714 --> 01:11:19,094 No, yeah, I don't think it accumulates in the same way. 1476 01:11:19,094 --> 01:11:22,314 I believe a drug test for something like cocaine and most stimulants only, 1477 01:11:23,414 --> 01:11:28,034 it only appears in a piss test a few days later relative to weed, 1478 01:11:28,134 --> 01:11:30,654 which is like a month or so because it's fat soluble. 1479 01:11:31,734 --> 01:11:34,474 But, yeah, so I don't know. 1480 01:11:34,954 --> 01:11:35,734 I'm surprised. 1481 01:11:35,934 --> 01:11:37,714 Maybe they did like tissue samples. 1482 01:11:37,954 --> 01:11:38,594 They probably did. 1483 01:11:39,214 --> 01:11:41,234 I thought this was hilarious though when I saw it. 1484 01:11:41,314 --> 01:11:43,454 I mean, how can you not talk about sharks and cocaine, right? 1485 01:11:43,574 --> 01:11:44,194 Like, look at this. 1486 01:11:44,374 --> 01:11:45,454 This is like something out of a movie. 1487 01:11:45,494 --> 01:11:47,094 What is that, that viral movie, like Cocaine Bear? 1488 01:11:47,194 --> 01:11:48,834 Are we going to have like cocaine sharks here? 1489 01:11:48,834 --> 01:11:49,894 Yeah, I remember that. 1490 01:11:50,734 --> 01:11:51,134 Sharkonado. 1491 01:11:51,294 --> 01:11:52,574 Now we have sharkonado cocaine. 1492 01:11:52,734 --> 01:11:53,134 Sharkonado. 1493 01:11:53,134 --> 01:11:53,714 Oh, my God. 1494 01:11:53,714 --> 01:11:54,414 It's even better. 1495 01:11:55,294 --> 01:11:55,654 Anyways. 1496 01:11:56,094 --> 01:11:57,034 Keep me out of the other shit now. 1497 01:11:57,034 --> 01:11:57,714 Thanks for explaining. 1498 01:11:57,834 --> 01:12:02,474 Oh, the other thing, Ted, you might like, Ted, is the Apollo in real time. 1499 01:12:02,554 --> 01:12:03,574 So, Scoresby posted this. 1500 01:12:03,674 --> 01:12:06,974 Apparently, you can see all the old recordings from the Apollo mission. 1501 01:12:07,314 --> 01:12:13,814 So, when I click on Apollo 13, you can actually hear the T-minus and then the actual. 1502 01:12:13,814 --> 01:12:16,234 We're now approaching the T-minus one minute mark. 1503 01:12:16,494 --> 01:12:17,254 T-minus one minute. 1504 01:12:17,494 --> 01:12:18,134 T-minus one minute. 1505 01:12:18,134 --> 01:12:19,574 Yeah, can we see the fake footage? 1506 01:12:19,814 --> 01:12:22,314 Or is it just the fake audio? 1507 01:12:23,834 --> 01:12:24,654 Oh, yeah, it's really loud. 1508 01:12:25,314 --> 01:12:26,334 I can't lower it. 1509 01:12:27,134 --> 01:12:28,334 T-minus 50 seconds. 1510 01:12:28,634 --> 01:12:30,794 As we have the T-minus 50 seconds. 1511 01:12:30,794 --> 01:12:31,914 Yeah, it looks really good, dude. 1512 01:12:32,274 --> 01:12:35,174 I've watched all these, like, Apollo missions when it was on HBO. 1513 01:12:35,534 --> 01:12:36,054 It's so good. 1514 01:12:36,074 --> 01:12:38,054 It's crazy how good AI's gotten, honestly. 1515 01:12:39,494 --> 01:12:39,934 What? 1516 01:12:40,474 --> 01:12:41,854 Yeah, it almost looks real. 1517 01:12:42,194 --> 01:12:43,034 It is real. 1518 01:12:44,034 --> 01:12:44,934 Oh, okay. 1519 01:12:44,934 --> 01:12:45,954 You guys are bedwarming me. 1520 01:12:46,214 --> 01:12:46,594 Come on. 1521 01:12:46,594 --> 01:12:48,954 Next thing you say, flat earth. 1522 01:12:49,134 --> 01:12:50,674 Car believes a side-up. 1523 01:12:51,074 --> 01:12:53,374 Buzz Aldrin came to my school. 1524 01:12:53,454 --> 01:12:53,874 There's another. 1525 01:12:58,674 --> 01:13:01,794 I don't know if he's drunk or that's just how he is. 1526 01:13:01,834 --> 01:13:04,594 He's rambling about how we need to get our asses to Mars. 1527 01:13:04,974 --> 01:13:05,454 Oh, wow. 1528 01:13:05,594 --> 01:13:06,994 And he's right. Totally right. 1529 01:13:07,494 --> 01:13:07,834 Damn. 1530 01:13:08,254 --> 01:13:11,914 Was he like an undercover Elon Musk plant or what? 1531 01:13:12,314 --> 01:13:14,994 I think he's probably pretty down with Musk. 1532 01:13:14,994 --> 01:13:17,194 The rest of the astronauts, I don't think, like, Musk as much. 1533 01:13:17,454 --> 01:13:20,494 It's not back in the day, but Buzz was always more ambitious. 1534 01:13:20,994 --> 01:13:21,994 Buzz, Buzz, huh? 1535 01:13:22,294 --> 01:13:22,814 Buzz the man. 1536 01:13:22,974 --> 01:13:29,554 Yeah, Buzz Aldrin was the, yeah, kind of a jackass, apparently. 1537 01:13:30,334 --> 01:13:34,874 In the movie, they said he was, like, the first man movie. 1538 01:13:34,954 --> 01:13:36,234 They made him seem like he was a jackass. 1539 01:13:36,994 --> 01:13:37,414 I don't know. 1540 01:13:37,454 --> 01:13:40,534 When you say jackass, I always think of Happy Gilmore. 1541 01:13:40,814 --> 01:13:41,974 Yeah, he was kind of like that. 1542 01:13:41,974 --> 01:13:43,114 He was just like a. 1543 01:13:43,114 --> 01:13:45,074 well no that guy in the crowd 1544 01:13:45,074 --> 01:13:45,834 who was just like 1545 01:13:45,834 --> 01:13:47,314 jackass 1546 01:13:47,314 --> 01:13:49,094 I remember that 1547 01:13:49,094 --> 01:13:51,574 the other one I wanted to bring up was 1548 01:13:51,574 --> 01:13:52,974 oh actually that's all of them 1549 01:13:52,974 --> 01:13:55,334 we're going to jump into Keon's picks 1550 01:13:55,334 --> 01:13:56,354 the sets here 1551 01:13:56,354 --> 01:13:58,054 Keon what's this 1552 01:13:58,054 --> 01:14:00,094 I just thought this was a fun little 1553 01:14:00,094 --> 01:14:01,594 it looked like a vibe coded app 1554 01:14:01,594 --> 01:14:05,154 I guess it doesn't have one going on right now 1555 01:14:05,154 --> 01:14:05,954 but there was a 1556 01:14:05,954 --> 01:14:07,754 I think this was an old game 1557 01:14:07,754 --> 01:14:09,354 very early on in Bitcoin 1558 01:14:09,354 --> 01:14:10,574 someone created a website 1559 01:14:10,574 --> 01:14:14,014 where you would donate into a pool 1560 01:14:14,014 --> 01:14:18,094 and a blurred image would slowly reveal itself. 1561 01:14:18,814 --> 01:14:21,494 And when you donated to the pool, 1562 01:14:21,594 --> 01:14:23,554 it would reveal a little bit more of the image 1563 01:14:23,554 --> 01:14:25,814 and you could make a guess 1564 01:14:25,814 --> 01:14:27,554 as to what you thought was in the image. 1565 01:14:28,354 --> 01:14:30,934 And then as the pool got larger and larger, 1566 01:14:30,934 --> 01:14:33,254 it would get more and more clear and be easier to guess. 1567 01:14:34,174 --> 01:14:36,234 But the general idea is you're kind of, 1568 01:14:36,494 --> 01:14:37,794 it's kind of like betting. 1569 01:14:37,994 --> 01:14:39,374 You're like betting on your ability 1570 01:14:39,374 --> 01:14:40,914 to guess the right image. 1571 01:14:41,854 --> 01:14:43,414 And then if you guess the right image, 1572 01:14:43,434 --> 01:14:43,954 you win the pool. 1573 01:14:45,654 --> 01:14:46,314 It was kind of cool. 1574 01:14:46,434 --> 01:14:48,114 And so they've had all these rounds recently 1575 01:14:48,114 --> 01:14:51,214 where it looks like many of them 1576 01:14:51,214 --> 01:14:53,074 worked their way up to about 5,000 sats. 1577 01:14:53,174 --> 01:14:57,614 So if you have a very good eye 1578 01:14:57,614 --> 01:14:59,534 for images and shapes and stuff, 1579 01:14:59,574 --> 01:15:02,314 you might be able to have an advantage. 1580 01:15:02,414 --> 01:15:05,054 That one was 10,000 for that pot. 1581 01:15:05,054 --> 01:15:06,794 So it just zooms in and then it zooms out. 1582 01:15:07,674 --> 01:15:09,114 But these are old ones, 1583 01:15:09,114 --> 01:15:10,314 so you don't get to see what it was like, 1584 01:15:10,354 --> 01:15:11,634 but it's like a blurred-out image 1585 01:15:11,634 --> 01:15:13,694 where you could barely make out anything 1586 01:15:13,694 --> 01:15:14,374 at the very beginning 1587 01:15:14,374 --> 01:15:16,254 when the pod has initially started. 1588 01:15:17,454 --> 01:15:18,114 That's interesting. 1589 01:15:18,454 --> 01:15:19,954 Yeah, but apparently this is an old game. 1590 01:15:20,274 --> 01:15:21,674 The first version of this, I think, 1591 01:15:21,734 --> 01:15:23,614 was like 2013, maybe even earlier, 1592 01:15:23,854 --> 01:15:25,414 and they were inspired to create 1593 01:15:25,414 --> 01:15:26,514 a modern version with lightning, 1594 01:15:26,634 --> 01:15:27,394 and that's what this is, 1595 01:15:27,414 --> 01:15:28,294 and I thought that was pretty cool. 1596 01:15:28,294 --> 01:15:29,894 These are more like just kind of fun 1597 01:15:29,894 --> 01:15:31,334 Plinko things. 1598 01:15:32,314 --> 01:15:32,994 What's Plinko? 1599 01:15:33,454 --> 01:15:34,394 It's like Price is Right. 1600 01:15:34,394 --> 01:15:37,294 These are like fun little apps to play. 1601 01:15:39,114 --> 01:15:40,234 Yeah. 1602 01:15:41,134 --> 01:15:48,094 The other one that you had was Solid State Coffee. 1603 01:15:48,234 --> 01:15:49,274 NYC to points from Siki. 1604 01:15:50,274 --> 01:15:56,074 Yeah, it looks like BTC Maps has Solid State Coffee listed as a location that accepts Bitcoin. 1605 01:15:56,734 --> 01:16:04,214 And they're a New York City coffee shop, I believe, in upper Manhattan, if that's what you call it. 1606 01:16:04,214 --> 01:16:05,994 But don't they all accept Bitcoin now? 1607 01:16:05,994 --> 01:16:07,334 because didn't he turn that on 1608 01:16:07,334 --> 01:16:09,234 and not everybody's a Bitcoin shop, 1609 01:16:09,334 --> 01:16:10,234 whether they know it or not? 1610 01:16:11,094 --> 01:16:11,394 Or no? 1611 01:16:12,074 --> 01:16:13,074 Or did I read that? 1612 01:16:13,114 --> 01:16:14,434 I think they're planning to do that. 1613 01:16:14,534 --> 01:16:17,154 I think they'll announce it at some point. 1614 01:16:18,494 --> 01:16:20,034 So I guess Siggy was nearby 1615 01:16:20,034 --> 01:16:22,594 and he decided to walk up and visit them 1616 01:16:22,594 --> 01:16:25,494 and hopefully spend some Bitcoin somewhere, 1617 01:16:25,614 --> 01:16:26,634 support a Bitcoin business. 1618 01:16:27,514 --> 01:16:28,974 And he got there and the guy, 1619 01:16:29,514 --> 01:16:31,874 the employee had no idea what he was talking about. 1620 01:16:32,234 --> 01:16:33,174 And then they asked the manager 1621 01:16:33,174 --> 01:16:35,314 and the manager said their Bitcoin machine was broken. 1622 01:16:35,994 --> 01:16:39,954 And Siggy was bummed out and kind of disappointed. 1623 01:16:40,274 --> 01:16:41,234 So their Square terminal was broken? 1624 01:16:41,734 --> 01:16:42,314 We don't know. 1625 01:16:42,394 --> 01:16:43,154 They're using Square. 1626 01:16:43,814 --> 01:16:46,714 Square is not a ubiquitous payments technology. 1627 01:16:46,934 --> 01:16:52,454 Actually, Clover has much more market share than them as far as the point of sale goes. 1628 01:16:52,594 --> 01:16:56,154 And as far as I know, Clover is not supporting Bitcoin stuff yet. 1629 01:16:58,254 --> 01:16:58,654 Interesting. 1630 01:16:59,134 --> 01:17:00,234 Brandon, have you been here? 1631 01:17:00,794 --> 01:17:01,034 I've been forwarded that. 1632 01:17:01,034 --> 01:17:01,774 Said yet. 1633 01:17:02,294 --> 01:17:04,694 Well, I mean, if this goes how we think it's going. 1634 01:17:04,694 --> 01:17:05,634 Yeah, it's true. 1635 01:17:05,994 --> 01:17:07,894 Brandon, have you been here in NYC? 1636 01:17:08,174 --> 01:17:13,154 No, I haven't been to, I haven't, I mean, last time I was in New York City, 1637 01:17:13,754 --> 01:17:17,154 it's probably a couple years ago now, maybe 22 or so. 1638 01:17:17,414 --> 01:17:19,254 So, haven't been in a while. 1639 01:17:19,554 --> 01:17:23,374 Maybe I need to go up there, go to Pub Key or something and go hang out. 1640 01:17:23,374 --> 01:17:26,614 How often do you, when you're traveling, how often do you spend in Bitcoin if there's like, 1641 01:17:27,134 --> 01:17:29,394 is that something that you'll do if it's like a place or something? 1642 01:17:29,394 --> 01:17:45,454 Yeah, I mean, if there's a place, majority of the time, I don't really find too many places, which I would say is, yeah, like in Medellin, maybe there was like a crypto cafe that accepted Bitcoin. 1643 01:17:45,454 --> 01:17:52,914 And I recorded actually my most viewed Bitcoin podcast ever with Jeff Booth and the crypto cafe in Medellin, Colombia. 1644 01:17:53,094 --> 01:17:56,394 I went back this year. It's gone. Not there anymore. 1645 01:17:56,394 --> 01:17:58,514 Oh, man, that sucks. 1646 01:17:59,394 --> 01:18:01,854 Maybe it's because it's the crypto cafe, not the Bitcoin cafe. 1647 01:18:01,974 --> 01:18:02,554 I don't know. 1648 01:18:02,634 --> 01:18:03,134 I don't know. 1649 01:18:03,134 --> 01:18:09,254 But, yeah, I mean, when I was in Peru, there wasn't too many places. 1650 01:18:09,574 --> 01:18:10,974 But, like, it just really depends. 1651 01:18:11,094 --> 01:18:15,314 Like, when I went to Bitcoin Jungle, it's, like, a town of, like, 200 people. 1652 01:18:15,514 --> 01:18:18,274 But there's, like, 60 vendors that accept Bitcoin there. 1653 01:18:18,514 --> 01:18:23,814 So for, like, the density of the population, that was, like, way swinging above its weight. 1654 01:18:23,874 --> 01:18:27,594 So it really just depends on the area I travel to. 1655 01:18:27,594 --> 01:18:30,414 sometimes I'll go to like Bitcoin areas 1656 01:18:30,414 --> 01:18:32,174 I guess if you want to call them that 1657 01:18:32,174 --> 01:18:34,274 but a lot of times 1658 01:18:34,274 --> 01:18:36,234 I like the big cities so 1659 01:18:36,234 --> 01:18:38,314 a lot of times I'm like in a big city so if there's 1660 01:18:38,314 --> 01:18:40,574 something close I'll do it but if not 1661 01:18:40,574 --> 01:18:42,674 you know 1662 01:18:42,674 --> 01:18:44,374 I don't know if I'm going to make like an hour trek 1663 01:18:44,374 --> 01:18:46,234 across town to go spend 1664 01:18:46,234 --> 01:18:48,354 Bitcoin if that makes sense. What's in this 1665 01:18:48,354 --> 01:18:50,154 breakfast place I'm just curious is that taco 1666 01:18:50,154 --> 01:18:51,954 or? Ah it's toast 1667 01:18:51,954 --> 01:18:53,134 that's weird 1668 01:18:53,134 --> 01:18:55,574 That's weird? They're not 1669 01:18:55,574 --> 01:18:56,474 I mean they're not 1670 01:18:56,474 --> 01:18:58,394 You're not in Kansas. 1671 01:18:59,194 --> 01:19:00,374 You're not a border state. 1672 01:19:00,394 --> 01:19:01,754 I'd pass on that. 1673 01:19:02,454 --> 01:19:03,154 What did Siggy get? 1674 01:19:03,254 --> 01:19:04,354 Did he tell, what did he get? 1675 01:19:04,754 --> 01:19:06,214 I think he just got a coffee. 1676 01:19:06,414 --> 01:19:06,674 Oh, okay. 1677 01:19:07,074 --> 01:19:07,294 Yeah. 1678 01:19:07,514 --> 01:19:09,934 Get the, I would probably get the, let's see here. 1679 01:19:09,954 --> 01:19:11,714 You just giving out orders now or what? 1680 01:19:12,034 --> 01:19:17,734 I would probably, yeah, I would probably just get the scrambled state sando. 1681 01:19:17,954 --> 01:19:18,494 What's a sando? 1682 01:19:18,574 --> 01:19:19,374 Does that mean for a sandwich? 1683 01:19:19,394 --> 01:19:20,034 Probably a sandwich. 1684 01:19:20,374 --> 01:19:22,054 I'd probably get that one, honestly. 1685 01:19:22,214 --> 01:19:22,974 On a potato bun? 1686 01:19:23,854 --> 01:19:24,574 Yeah, what'd you get breaded? 1687 01:19:25,054 --> 01:19:25,914 Probably the same. 1688 01:19:26,474 --> 01:19:27,914 I was looking at it earlier. 1689 01:19:28,294 --> 01:19:29,534 Or the breakfast plate. 1690 01:19:30,974 --> 01:19:32,134 Yeah, somebody go over there. 1691 01:19:32,154 --> 01:19:32,694 Add some avocado. 1692 01:19:33,034 --> 01:19:37,294 Somebody go over there, Stackers, and try the Scrambled State Sando for car. 1693 01:19:38,194 --> 01:19:38,694 I got you. 1694 01:19:39,174 --> 01:19:41,214 I'm going with the Slavic pancakes. 1695 01:19:41,474 --> 01:19:41,734 Where is that? 1696 01:19:41,754 --> 01:19:44,074 I mean, no one asked me, but those look pretty good. 1697 01:19:44,094 --> 01:19:44,434 Where is that? 1698 01:19:44,954 --> 01:19:45,734 It's not here. 1699 01:19:46,234 --> 01:19:47,134 Go to left. 1700 01:19:47,594 --> 01:19:47,914 All right. 1701 01:19:48,034 --> 01:19:48,594 Shrieky one? 1702 01:19:48,814 --> 01:19:49,694 Yeah, shrieky. 1703 01:19:49,774 --> 01:19:50,634 Oh, what is this? 1704 01:19:50,634 --> 01:19:51,314 It just sounds weird. 1705 01:19:51,814 --> 01:19:52,594 Of course you'd get this. 1706 01:19:52,754 --> 01:19:54,154 This is the farmer's cheese. 1707 01:19:54,154 --> 01:19:55,274 Farmer's cheese and rice flour, bro. 1708 01:19:55,654 --> 01:19:57,754 And then whipped labneh? 1709 01:19:57,854 --> 01:19:58,894 I don't even know what that is. 1710 01:19:59,094 --> 01:20:01,214 That's why you would get it, just so you can try it? 1711 01:20:01,334 --> 01:20:04,114 No, I want to try something I haven't tried before. 1712 01:20:04,114 --> 01:20:06,754 I honestly wouldn't go to this place because they don't have tacos. 1713 01:20:07,354 --> 01:20:08,134 So I wouldn't go. 1714 01:20:08,374 --> 01:20:09,734 It's New York City, man. 1715 01:20:09,794 --> 01:20:10,054 I know. 1716 01:20:10,134 --> 01:20:10,794 That's why I wouldn't go. 1717 01:20:11,354 --> 01:20:14,154 But if they had tacos, I would go. 1718 01:20:14,414 --> 01:20:16,314 But if they didn't, then you'd starve. 1719 01:20:17,134 --> 01:20:18,634 No, I would go still. 1720 01:20:18,834 --> 01:20:20,694 But I'd be very dissatisfied the whole time. 1721 01:20:21,774 --> 01:20:22,054 Oh, God. 1722 01:20:23,654 --> 01:20:24,054 Anyways. 1723 01:20:25,274 --> 01:20:26,894 Oh, they have carbonara toast? 1724 01:20:26,994 --> 01:20:28,034 That sounds kind of interesting. 1725 01:20:29,534 --> 01:20:30,314 This is weird. 1726 01:20:30,434 --> 01:20:32,074 This is a weird segment in the podcast. 1727 01:20:32,334 --> 01:20:35,414 We should find a picture of a menu each podcast. 1728 01:20:35,714 --> 01:20:36,274 Weird New York City cafe. 1729 01:20:36,274 --> 01:20:37,134 Oh, look at that latte. 1730 01:20:37,314 --> 01:20:39,314 Dude, these are really inexpensive coffees, though. 1731 01:20:39,894 --> 01:20:41,354 Maybe just go for the coffee, I'm thinking. 1732 01:20:41,874 --> 01:20:42,734 Maybe that's what Siggy did. 1733 01:20:42,814 --> 01:20:43,554 He was just like, you know what? 1734 01:20:43,554 --> 01:20:46,334 I'm just going to go for the coffee because that looks more up my alley. 1735 01:20:46,354 --> 01:20:47,654 One espresso, $4. 1736 01:20:48,054 --> 01:20:48,654 That's pretty good. 1737 01:20:48,874 --> 01:20:50,314 And an Americano is the same price. 1738 01:20:50,734 --> 01:20:50,994 Yeah. 1739 01:20:51,794 --> 01:20:52,674 Americano is just water. 1740 01:20:52,674 --> 01:20:54,534 Yeah, those aren't New York prices. 1741 01:20:54,534 --> 01:20:56,154 Add water to the espresso. 1742 01:20:56,414 --> 01:20:58,314 Dude, that's like double in Austin. 1743 01:20:58,314 --> 01:20:59,474 I think they're lost liters. 1744 01:21:00,054 --> 01:21:03,294 Usually when I go places, an espresso is like $2.50. 1745 01:21:03,914 --> 01:21:04,214 Yeah. 1746 01:21:04,514 --> 01:21:06,654 And then an American is like $5. 1747 01:21:06,894 --> 01:21:08,074 Look at this coconut cream latte. 1748 01:21:08,334 --> 01:21:08,454 Yeah. 1749 01:21:08,854 --> 01:21:09,814 I've never had that before. 1750 01:21:09,994 --> 01:21:10,374 That's weird. 1751 01:21:11,274 --> 01:21:15,314 What we should do is we should go, every podcast, we should go on BTC Maps 1752 01:21:15,314 --> 01:21:20,934 and find a menu of a location that takes Bitcoin and review the menu. 1753 01:21:21,174 --> 01:21:22,074 That would be funny. 1754 01:21:22,654 --> 01:21:23,094 I don't know. 1755 01:21:23,174 --> 01:21:24,314 It seems like you're into this. 1756 01:21:24,534 --> 01:21:24,894 I don't know. 1757 01:21:24,894 --> 01:21:27,554 Yeah, I love talking about food and drinks and stuff. 1758 01:21:27,954 --> 01:21:28,914 It's one of my favorite things to do. 1759 01:21:28,974 --> 01:21:30,634 It's going to make Kara hungry before dinner. 1760 01:21:30,894 --> 01:21:31,814 No, I'm full, dude. 1761 01:21:31,834 --> 01:21:32,354 We just ate. 1762 01:21:32,454 --> 01:21:33,274 I ate that pasta. 1763 01:21:33,574 --> 01:21:33,994 I'm full. 1764 01:21:34,154 --> 01:21:35,074 You went to this place? 1765 01:21:35,174 --> 01:21:36,254 Yeah, we had the Italian. 1766 01:21:37,254 --> 01:21:38,454 What kind of pasta you got there? 1767 01:21:38,894 --> 01:21:41,174 I had just a regular fettuccine with nothing. 1768 01:21:41,814 --> 01:21:42,374 Brandon, what do you? 1769 01:21:42,374 --> 01:21:45,094 I got spaghetti and shrimp, not meatballs. 1770 01:21:45,814 --> 01:21:46,214 Boom! 1771 01:21:46,214 --> 01:21:48,714 It is Lent right now, so I'm not supposed to eat. 1772 01:21:48,714 --> 01:21:48,914 Yeah. 1773 01:21:49,134 --> 01:21:50,574 No meat. 1774 01:21:51,594 --> 01:21:53,574 Anyways, that's all of them. 1775 01:21:53,574 --> 01:21:55,114 Siggy keep posting those 1776 01:21:55,114 --> 01:21:56,214 I love when Siggy does those 1777 01:21:56,214 --> 01:21:57,614 It's like one of my favorite things to see 1778 01:21:57,614 --> 01:21:58,574 Is like Siggy travel 1779 01:21:58,574 --> 01:21:59,994 Yeah 1780 01:21:59,994 --> 01:22:01,014 No he writes great posts 1781 01:22:01,014 --> 01:22:02,134 Let us know how the food tastes 1782 01:22:02,134 --> 01:22:02,894 If you should have it 1783 01:22:02,894 --> 01:22:04,234 There were a lot of great posts this week 1784 01:22:04,234 --> 01:22:05,674 Also I think 1785 01:22:05,674 --> 01:22:06,414 Simple Sackered 1786 01:22:06,414 --> 01:22:07,514 Out of many economists 1787 01:22:07,514 --> 01:22:08,014 I think 1788 01:22:08,014 --> 01:22:09,094 Den wrote 1789 01:22:09,094 --> 01:22:10,554 Another long form piece 1790 01:22:10,554 --> 01:22:11,194 Yeah 1791 01:22:11,194 --> 01:22:12,074 Lots of good stuff 1792 01:22:12,074 --> 01:22:12,934 So we have 1793 01:22:12,934 --> 01:22:13,794 Meta 1794 01:22:13,794 --> 01:22:15,094 SN release 1795 01:22:15,094 --> 01:22:16,194 Editor enhancements 1796 01:22:16,194 --> 01:22:17,094 I saw today 1797 01:22:17,094 --> 01:22:18,234 When I was pasting links 1798 01:22:18,234 --> 01:22:19,014 With the titles 1799 01:22:19,014 --> 01:22:19,614 They automatically 1800 01:22:19,614 --> 01:22:20,554 Just pre-populated 1801 01:22:20,554 --> 01:22:20,794 Yeah 1802 01:22:20,794 --> 01:22:21,694 I love that 1803 01:22:21,694 --> 01:22:22,074 Thanks 1804 01:22:22,074 --> 01:22:22,694 Sooks 1805 01:22:22,694 --> 01:22:26,054 Yeah, Socks made these enhancements specifically to copy-paste. 1806 01:22:26,174 --> 01:22:26,674 That's awesome. 1807 01:22:26,714 --> 01:22:30,354 If you have a rich text source and you copy and paste it in the Markdown source, 1808 01:22:30,454 --> 01:22:31,354 it'll convert it into Markdown. 1809 01:22:31,374 --> 01:22:36,214 Dude, it literally made my setup 20 minutes. 1810 01:22:36,314 --> 01:22:37,054 Yeah, 20 minutes. 1811 01:22:37,294 --> 01:22:37,554 Good. 1812 01:22:39,414 --> 01:22:44,974 Yeah, and then there's a number of improvements just to that experience in general, 1813 01:22:45,094 --> 01:22:48,574 like the Markdown rich text abilities. 1814 01:22:48,574 --> 01:22:50,394 and then Optimism also, 1815 01:22:50,594 --> 01:22:53,674 I merged, finally, Optimism's work 1816 01:22:53,674 --> 01:22:56,994 on the Open Timestamps client replacement, 1817 01:22:57,894 --> 01:22:58,534 which is great. 1818 01:22:59,014 --> 01:23:00,374 So that wasn't working after a while? 1819 01:23:00,834 --> 01:23:02,214 Because that's right here, right? 1820 01:23:02,214 --> 01:23:03,174 It was just unmaintained. 1821 01:23:03,754 --> 01:23:04,574 It's still working. 1822 01:23:04,974 --> 01:23:05,974 It was just, it had never, 1823 01:23:06,394 --> 01:23:09,614 the underlying library they've used 1824 01:23:09,614 --> 01:23:12,554 that speaks Open Timestamps protocol stuff, 1825 01:23:13,094 --> 01:23:15,274 it had gone unmaintained. 1826 01:23:15,374 --> 01:23:17,394 It had been like five years since it had seen a commit. 1827 01:23:17,394 --> 01:23:19,934 And so for the Staggers listening at home, why is this important, Keon? 1828 01:23:19,992 --> 01:23:24,612 For security reasons, because we're basically importing this dependency into our project, 1829 01:23:24,872 --> 01:23:31,392 and if it has deprecated dependencies, even if they're transitive like it was in this package, 1830 01:23:31,772 --> 01:23:36,252 it's possible that somehow an attacker gets a hold of one of those transitive dependencies, 1831 01:23:37,792 --> 01:23:44,632 introduces some kind of malware in it, some kind of secret stealing malware in it. 1832 01:23:44,632 --> 01:23:48,572 or I think a product in the Bitcoin space 1833 01:23:48,572 --> 01:23:52,072 had a dependency that was popping up crypto ads into it. 1834 01:23:53,152 --> 01:23:54,792 These supply chain attacks, basically, 1835 01:23:54,892 --> 01:23:56,332 you're trying to prevent them. 1836 01:23:56,392 --> 01:23:57,572 And so you try to use these things 1837 01:23:57,572 --> 01:24:01,312 that are well-maintained, consumed by a lot of people. 1838 01:24:01,372 --> 01:24:02,772 So there's a lot of eyes on it. 1839 01:24:03,652 --> 01:24:06,432 And this open timestamp client was not. 1840 01:24:06,552 --> 01:24:07,552 So what he did was he, 1841 01:24:08,112 --> 01:24:11,372 we tried out this thing that we call vibe vendoring, 1842 01:24:11,892 --> 01:24:14,252 where we take these dependencies that we have 1843 01:24:14,252 --> 01:24:18,732 and we try to vibe code them like inside of our core code base. 1844 01:24:19,172 --> 01:24:21,452 And so this was the first experiment, like one of the trickier ones 1845 01:24:21,452 --> 01:24:27,112 because it has CERD, like serialization and deserialization binaries. 1846 01:24:27,612 --> 01:24:30,892 And found out it was not as easy as Sweet Hope. 1847 01:24:31,052 --> 01:24:33,052 We're not really there yet where I can just say, 1848 01:24:33,232 --> 01:24:37,832 I can like kind of one shot something with a binary protocol 1849 01:24:37,832 --> 01:24:39,892 as a dependency into the code base. 1850 01:24:40,032 --> 01:24:43,952 But it took a lot, it took less long than maybe it would have otherwise. 1851 01:24:43,952 --> 01:24:50,732 Anyway, that's kind of a pretty big inside baseball type of change. 1852 01:24:50,972 --> 01:24:56,932 The big things that most people care about are probably around these editor enhancements. 1853 01:24:56,992 --> 01:24:58,152 There are GIFs in the comment section. 1854 01:24:58,272 --> 01:25:01,732 I accidentally grabbed stills, but here we go. 1855 01:25:01,772 --> 01:25:04,952 Here's some of the improved functionality as GIFs. 1856 01:25:06,432 --> 01:25:11,132 Just better editing inside of the rich text editor, 1857 01:25:11,132 --> 01:25:14,892 and then the second GIF is showing copy-paste functionality 1858 01:25:14,892 --> 01:25:15,792 that you were describing. 1859 01:25:17,712 --> 01:25:19,272 Oh, it does the whole thing? 1860 01:25:20,172 --> 01:25:21,032 Oh, wow. 1861 01:25:21,392 --> 01:25:23,732 Yeah, it'll convert back and forth. 1862 01:25:24,252 --> 01:25:25,052 I didn't know that then. 1863 01:25:25,092 --> 01:25:28,632 This all builds upon some of the other work that we described 1864 01:25:28,632 --> 01:25:33,032 where we have this ability to convert between Markdown and Rich Text. 1865 01:25:33,312 --> 01:25:33,832 That's cool. 1866 01:25:34,052 --> 01:25:34,792 Like pretty reliably. 1867 01:25:35,412 --> 01:25:36,152 That's awesome. 1868 01:25:36,432 --> 01:25:37,372 That's super cool. 1869 01:25:38,612 --> 01:25:39,132 Awesome. 1870 01:25:39,532 --> 01:25:39,792 Yep. 1871 01:25:40,552 --> 01:25:42,152 Well, that's some really good meta this week. 1872 01:25:42,232 --> 01:25:45,912 I saw the upgrade almost immediately when I was doing the podcast thing. 1873 01:25:46,212 --> 01:25:48,992 Yeah, it is a big quality of life improvement. 1874 01:25:49,232 --> 01:25:51,312 Looks like we got a zine maybe at the bottom. 1875 01:25:51,972 --> 01:25:53,792 Zine? There it goes right there just in time. 1876 01:25:54,512 --> 01:25:55,832 One year of Stacker News zine. 1877 01:25:55,912 --> 01:25:58,152 This is from Club Poet, the fun page of Bitcoin. 1878 01:25:58,872 --> 01:25:59,412 There you go. 1879 01:25:59,892 --> 01:26:01,092 Keon, what can you tell us about this? 1880 01:26:01,892 --> 01:26:06,112 I haven't seen the zine yet, but I guess this is our 52nd issue. 1881 01:26:07,432 --> 01:26:08,952 We might have skipped an issue or two. 1882 01:26:09,792 --> 01:26:12,392 in there to get to this number, I think. 1883 01:26:13,752 --> 01:26:14,852 But not without reason. 1884 01:26:15,012 --> 01:26:17,052 I think my poet took a break or something. 1885 01:26:17,752 --> 01:26:18,372 But this is it. 1886 01:26:18,552 --> 01:26:22,772 This is our 50-second issue. 1887 01:26:22,972 --> 01:26:24,492 And I don't know exactly what's in it or what the theme is. 1888 01:26:24,492 --> 01:26:25,872 It feels like a Nine Inch Nails album. 1889 01:26:26,572 --> 01:26:27,392 I'm digging it. 1890 01:26:28,812 --> 01:26:29,752 Cool stuff. 1891 01:26:30,972 --> 01:26:33,572 I built a website showing how Bitcoin makes the world better. 1892 01:26:33,992 --> 01:26:36,212 Yeah, Bitcoin.rocks has been out there for a while, 1893 01:26:36,212 --> 01:26:40,212 but it looks like they maybe vibed some significant enhancements to it. 1894 01:26:41,912 --> 01:26:43,112 Little vibe code. 1895 01:26:43,672 --> 01:26:44,652 Little vibe enhancement. 1896 01:26:44,652 --> 01:26:46,552 Did you know Stacker News had its own zine? 1897 01:26:48,432 --> 01:26:48,912 Right? 1898 01:26:49,432 --> 01:26:50,292 Now I do. 1899 01:26:50,712 --> 01:26:51,152 Wow. 1900 01:26:51,532 --> 01:26:52,252 There we go. 1901 01:26:53,192 --> 01:26:53,432 Yeah. 1902 01:26:54,312 --> 01:26:56,372 Pled Poet does these once a week, 1903 01:26:56,572 --> 01:26:58,272 so we've been doing it roughly a year. 1904 01:26:58,992 --> 01:26:59,892 Dang, that's awesome. 1905 01:27:00,132 --> 01:27:00,392 Yeah. 1906 01:27:00,972 --> 01:27:03,332 It's basically like the podcast in print form. 1907 01:27:03,812 --> 01:27:05,152 And then we ship them off for- 1908 01:27:05,152 --> 01:27:06,092 It's better than the podcast, I think. 1909 01:27:06,212 --> 01:27:07,092 It's fair. 1910 01:27:10,532 --> 01:27:14,912 For 3,000 sats, we try to mail it anywhere in the world. 1911 01:27:15,512 --> 01:27:15,792 Wow. 1912 01:27:16,052 --> 01:27:16,312 Yeah. 1913 01:27:17,012 --> 01:27:17,992 So what's Start Wars? 1914 01:27:18,092 --> 01:27:18,572 That's funny. 1915 01:27:19,532 --> 01:27:21,672 Oh, that's cool. 1916 01:27:24,672 --> 01:27:25,732 That's cool stuff. 1917 01:27:26,152 --> 01:27:26,872 Love to see it. 1918 01:27:27,372 --> 01:27:28,692 Check out the Stacker News Zine. 1919 01:27:28,792 --> 01:27:29,392 Get your copy. 1920 01:27:29,572 --> 01:27:30,572 Purchase, print, web. 1921 01:27:31,412 --> 01:27:32,192 Making it happen. 1922 01:27:33,032 --> 01:27:33,952 There will be a short break. 1923 01:27:34,212 --> 01:27:35,312 I think we're going to take it. 1924 01:27:35,312 --> 01:27:41,532 Well, that's up to Pleb Poet, but she said she needs like an art vacation. 1925 01:27:42,072 --> 01:27:42,572 Oh, okay. 1926 01:27:42,672 --> 01:27:46,292 To rebuild her, I don't know, artistic energies. 1927 01:27:47,252 --> 01:27:48,352 You know about that, right, Carr? 1928 01:27:48,872 --> 01:27:49,232 Yeah. 1929 01:27:49,652 --> 01:27:50,972 That's why I do coding now. 1930 01:27:51,252 --> 01:27:52,052 It's my break. 1931 01:27:52,372 --> 01:27:53,312 That's why I just go and coding. 1932 01:27:53,672 --> 01:27:54,212 Oh, yeah. 1933 01:27:54,352 --> 01:27:56,132 Dude, you're an artistic engineer, bro. 1934 01:27:56,132 --> 01:27:59,372 Dude, no, I'm telling you, though, like I use different brains now. 1935 01:28:00,052 --> 01:28:02,032 Because I'll jump on a call, and it's like business call. 1936 01:28:02,172 --> 01:28:03,232 So you don't just have one anymore? 1937 01:28:03,412 --> 01:28:04,372 Yeah, I don't have one. 1938 01:28:04,372 --> 01:28:10,612 And then I jump into the, like, all the community stuff that we do. 1939 01:28:10,752 --> 01:28:11,572 That's another brain. 1940 01:28:11,712 --> 01:28:12,532 That's another brain. 1941 01:28:13,692 --> 01:28:18,312 And then I got to do the media stuff like this, like the media stuff. 1942 01:28:18,432 --> 01:28:19,612 And then that's a different brain. 1943 01:28:20,132 --> 01:28:23,012 And then I get into, like, the sales stuff, and that's a different brain. 1944 01:28:23,092 --> 01:28:25,912 And then I get into the creative stuff, and that's just, like, a lot of fun. 1945 01:28:26,272 --> 01:28:29,372 And then I get into the coding thing, and that's a totally different game. 1946 01:28:30,052 --> 01:28:31,392 But I just, like, crank up the music. 1947 01:28:31,392 --> 01:28:43,872 I was listening to Prodigy the other day and just coding dude It was awesome Oh that the best Yeah that was awesome So you just got like a bunch of marbles in there Pretty much yeah I just try to go I try to do everything on the right side of my brain versus the left 1948 01:28:43,872 --> 01:28:45,672 because the left feels too logical sometimes. 1949 01:28:46,272 --> 01:28:49,072 Can you feel it when your brain is working on one side? 1950 01:28:49,172 --> 01:28:50,572 Yeah, right now it's all right, baby. 1951 01:28:51,052 --> 01:28:51,592 I love it. 1952 01:28:52,212 --> 01:28:52,572 Damn. 1953 01:28:53,372 --> 01:28:56,152 I never use my left unless I absolutely have to. 1954 01:28:57,012 --> 01:28:58,812 I think right is the creative side, right? 1955 01:28:58,832 --> 01:28:59,532 Right is the creative side. 1956 01:28:59,572 --> 01:29:01,032 The left side is like all the logical. 1957 01:29:01,032 --> 01:29:02,312 Are you left-handed? 1958 01:29:02,392 --> 01:29:08,832 um what do you call it that both both ways ambidextrous yeah oh yeah you're like i use my 1959 01:29:08,832 --> 01:29:15,112 right anyways um we're gonna jump into the comments or actually let's jump into the top 1960 01:29:15,112 --> 01:29:18,032 cowboys baby every week we do this stupid segment 1961 01:29:18,032 --> 01:29:26,192 so brandon you don't know this because you never come on this show but this is the most popular did 1962 01:29:26,192 --> 01:29:32,272 you know brandon this is more popular than green candles ever been this segment so everybody stops 1963 01:29:32,272 --> 01:29:33,132 everything in Bitcoin. 1964 01:29:33,572 --> 01:29:33,952 And they're like, 1965 01:29:34,132 --> 01:29:35,192 oh, is Carr Coop doing 1966 01:29:35,192 --> 01:29:36,112 the top cowboys? 1967 01:29:36,192 --> 01:29:37,232 And then they rush over. 1968 01:29:37,712 --> 01:29:37,972 They're like, 1969 01:29:37,972 --> 01:29:38,872 let's watch a stream. 1970 01:29:39,052 --> 01:29:40,172 And then they watch it. 1971 01:29:40,712 --> 01:29:41,512 It's because of the hat. 1972 01:29:41,752 --> 01:29:42,392 I think it's because 1973 01:29:42,392 --> 01:29:43,972 of the dumb... 1974 01:29:43,972 --> 01:29:46,192 He loves the hat. 1975 01:29:46,332 --> 01:29:47,492 People love the hat. 1976 01:29:47,812 --> 01:29:48,772 He loves the hat. 1977 01:29:48,852 --> 01:29:50,012 Look how tall that is. 1978 01:29:50,732 --> 01:29:51,512 Oh, my God. 1979 01:29:52,352 --> 01:29:52,792 Anyways, 1980 01:29:52,952 --> 01:29:53,852 the most popular segment 1981 01:29:53,852 --> 01:29:54,112 of Bitcoin, 1982 01:29:54,232 --> 01:29:55,132 the top cowboys. 1983 01:29:55,232 --> 01:29:56,112 Keyon, take it away. 1984 01:29:56,912 --> 01:29:57,552 Oh, well, 1985 01:29:57,552 --> 01:29:58,592 we don't really say anything. 1986 01:29:58,832 --> 01:29:59,592 That's kind of... 1987 01:29:59,592 --> 01:30:01,532 This is a fairly static segment. 1988 01:30:01,532 --> 01:30:03,712 You look from one week to the next and it doesn't change. 1989 01:30:03,792 --> 01:30:05,132 That's what's so exciting about it. 1990 01:30:05,492 --> 01:30:11,092 And this week it looks like, yep, nothing has changed again, folks. 1991 01:30:13,672 --> 01:30:16,432 I love this segment because it's like watching paint dry. 1992 01:30:17,832 --> 01:30:18,912 Well, it's like worse. 1993 01:30:19,032 --> 01:30:20,212 It's washing dried paint. 1994 01:30:20,572 --> 01:30:23,012 This is like the most Tiz segment we have. 1995 01:30:23,092 --> 01:30:23,752 I love it. 1996 01:30:23,852 --> 01:30:25,092 I love it so much. 1997 01:30:25,552 --> 01:30:25,812 Yeah. 1998 01:30:26,372 --> 01:30:29,992 You got to explain the segment here for me. 1999 01:30:29,992 --> 01:30:36,132 explain the paint you still don't know what we're doing the paint drive okay so the car usually does 2000 01:30:36,132 --> 01:30:41,192 that but so what's going on here is like every week there's stackers that are wearing cowboy hats 2001 01:30:41,192 --> 01:30:46,892 so they wear this hat that kian made up was it four years ago five years ago yeah it's roughly 2002 01:30:46,892 --> 01:30:51,512 three years i think it's it's after i dropped my other thing it's after jimmy song because jimmy 2003 01:30:51,512 --> 01:30:56,892 song has his cowboy hat like that it's not after jimmy song oh i thought it was and then anyway so 2004 01:30:56,892 --> 01:30:58,812 every week we look at the... 2005 01:30:58,812 --> 01:31:00,252 It's like a streak thing. 2006 01:31:00,592 --> 01:31:02,412 So like, yeah, you have to do something. 2007 01:31:03,212 --> 01:31:04,972 Keon won't tell the stackers how to do it. 2008 01:31:05,032 --> 01:31:06,492 Yeah, it's like a bit of an Easter egg. 2009 01:31:07,012 --> 01:31:07,892 It's a bit of an Easter egg. 2010 01:31:08,552 --> 01:31:10,232 That's what I'm saying. It's so tizz. I love it. 2011 01:31:10,232 --> 01:31:10,972 So nobody knows. 2012 01:31:10,972 --> 01:31:12,172 So no one knows how the segment... 2013 01:31:12,172 --> 01:31:13,732 People do know because our code is open source. 2014 01:31:13,952 --> 01:31:14,512 People have read it. 2015 01:31:15,652 --> 01:31:17,452 I mean, people have literally told you on the podcast. 2016 01:31:17,852 --> 01:31:18,532 They never told me. 2017 01:31:19,032 --> 01:31:20,492 I've literally asked everybody. 2018 01:31:20,632 --> 01:31:24,092 Just buy code something to tell you what the code is. 2019 01:31:24,092 --> 01:31:27,312 You could probably ask your bot to tell you. 2020 01:31:27,692 --> 01:31:30,072 But anyway, so yeah, this is what this segment's about. 2021 01:31:30,152 --> 01:31:32,172 So this is a list of people who have kept it the longest. 2022 01:31:32,172 --> 01:31:32,532 It's so great. 2023 01:31:32,532 --> 01:31:33,772 Who have maintained the streak the longest. 2024 01:31:34,772 --> 01:31:38,712 So there was a while where BTC Sessions was doing the same show at the same time, 2025 01:31:38,772 --> 01:31:40,592 and he would start roughly around the Cowboy segment. 2026 01:31:41,212 --> 01:31:45,112 And then so there's been this rivalry with Stacker News Live and BTC Sessions. 2027 01:31:45,152 --> 01:31:48,632 Yeah, he has trolls and bots and my DMs trying to attack me, 2028 01:31:48,832 --> 01:31:50,792 sending me death threats about the segment. 2029 01:31:50,792 --> 01:31:54,832 I think I was, I've been swatted at least two or three times. 2030 01:31:55,572 --> 01:31:56,212 We're kidding. 2031 01:31:56,452 --> 01:31:57,092 We're kidding. 2032 01:31:57,292 --> 01:32:00,412 And it was by Ben Swanson was the account that swatted. 2033 01:32:00,752 --> 01:32:01,632 What is his last name? 2034 01:32:01,932 --> 01:32:02,332 Doxed. 2035 01:32:02,392 --> 01:32:06,912 I don't know if that's his last name, but it sounds eerily familiar, doesn't it? 2036 01:32:07,132 --> 01:32:07,532 Doxed. 2037 01:32:07,572 --> 01:32:08,272 Triple Doxed. 2038 01:32:08,492 --> 01:32:10,732 Anyway, just like all the, Schmitty came in. 2039 01:32:10,792 --> 01:32:11,492 He's here at the bottom. 2040 01:32:11,752 --> 01:32:12,952 We got McEyes on here. 2041 01:32:13,052 --> 01:32:14,612 Peter Todd came in through this week. 2042 01:32:16,592 --> 01:32:17,792 Cypher, LMAC. 2043 01:32:17,832 --> 01:32:19,712 I always like going to the bottom to see who's the bottom. 2044 01:32:19,712 --> 01:32:22,852 and the bottom one is 0213, 0F36, whatever. 2045 01:32:23,332 --> 01:32:24,072 Anyways, good. 2046 01:32:24,592 --> 01:32:24,852 Good. 2047 01:32:24,932 --> 01:32:25,652 Nothing's changed. 2048 01:32:26,272 --> 01:32:26,712 Stackers? 2049 01:32:27,032 --> 01:32:28,072 Everything was the same. 2050 01:32:28,852 --> 01:32:29,752 Yeah, pretty much, yeah. 2051 01:32:29,972 --> 01:32:31,172 Paint's still dry, folks. 2052 01:32:31,732 --> 01:32:33,152 That's the Cowboy segment. 2053 01:32:36,512 --> 01:32:38,132 Keon just likes to put the hat on. 2054 01:32:38,332 --> 01:32:38,992 Yeah, that's... 2055 01:32:38,992 --> 01:32:40,772 I wanted to wear it for the full podcast, 2056 01:32:40,872 --> 01:32:42,812 but Cara was like, no, I'm the jester. 2057 01:32:43,332 --> 01:32:43,632 Whoa. 2058 01:32:44,112 --> 01:32:45,472 I'm the fun in this podcast, 2059 01:32:45,732 --> 01:32:46,552 so you don't get to be the fun. 2060 01:32:46,732 --> 01:32:48,012 Hey, we're both fun. 2061 01:32:48,852 --> 01:32:49,212 Wow. 2062 01:32:49,712 --> 01:32:51,112 So we're going to jump into the comments. 2063 01:32:51,172 --> 01:32:52,092 These are some spicy comments. 2064 01:32:52,332 --> 01:32:53,312 Let's start at the bottom. 2065 01:32:54,052 --> 01:32:55,572 Vake, stay in your main. 2066 01:32:56,152 --> 01:32:57,332 You said that about Womble's thing. 2067 01:32:58,132 --> 01:32:59,052 The Afro guy. 2068 01:32:59,652 --> 01:33:00,192 Oh, yeah. 2069 01:33:00,612 --> 01:33:01,852 Yeah, I don't know what that means, main. 2070 01:33:02,092 --> 01:33:02,792 Does he mean the hair? 2071 01:33:04,012 --> 01:33:04,792 Or main? 2072 01:33:05,012 --> 01:33:05,172 Main? 2073 01:33:05,512 --> 01:33:05,672 No. 2074 01:33:05,892 --> 01:33:06,792 You want to talk about main? 2075 01:33:07,252 --> 01:33:07,672 Does he mean that? 2076 01:33:07,672 --> 01:33:08,252 It's got to be the hair. 2077 01:33:08,372 --> 01:33:08,952 Isn't it Afro? 2078 01:33:08,952 --> 01:33:09,692 It's Afro man. 2079 01:33:09,952 --> 01:33:12,632 Yeah, but is he sure he's not trying to do like, main? 2080 01:33:12,792 --> 01:33:13,432 Come on, main. 2081 01:33:13,552 --> 01:33:16,352 I think that would be, that's like a racist interpretation of what it says. 2082 01:33:16,352 --> 01:33:17,212 That's what I saw. 2083 01:33:17,572 --> 01:33:18,432 Just to be honest. 2084 01:33:18,792 --> 01:33:19,632 He said stay. 2085 01:33:19,632 --> 01:33:23,752 Yeah, I mean, I know it's subconscious, but it's still... 2086 01:33:23,752 --> 01:33:25,192 I don't have a racist mode in my body. 2087 01:33:25,592 --> 01:33:27,512 But I felt like that's what he was trying to do here. 2088 01:33:27,672 --> 01:33:28,212 I felt like... 2089 01:33:28,212 --> 01:33:29,312 Wow, they're going to clip that. 2090 01:33:29,432 --> 01:33:32,152 Now Stacker News is the most racist podcast in Bitcoin. 2091 01:33:32,572 --> 01:33:32,812 Oh, man. 2092 01:33:32,892 --> 01:33:34,452 It's the only way they can be with us. 2093 01:33:34,592 --> 01:33:38,712 Vake, can you just clarify if you're trying to say stay in your mane about Afro man 2094 01:33:38,712 --> 01:33:41,932 or are you trying to say stay in your mane about Afro man? 2095 01:33:42,852 --> 01:33:43,852 With Vake, you never know. 2096 01:33:44,212 --> 01:33:45,072 We need some clarification. 2097 01:33:45,372 --> 01:33:46,692 We could have been drunk when he wrote this, Keon. 2098 01:33:46,692 --> 01:33:48,992 I think you're the only one drunk 2099 01:33:48,992 --> 01:34:01,372 involved in this up devs keep serving me beer every week we going to keep having these podcasts Yeah so let go into here The Pokemon Go one last week we talked about that 2100 01:34:01,512 --> 01:34:04,392 So I played Pokemon Go, and actually this news isn't any surprising to me. 2101 01:34:06,072 --> 01:34:08,392 They're saying that they're cool with them taking their... 2102 01:34:08,392 --> 01:34:09,232 Taking the data. 2103 01:34:09,492 --> 01:34:09,692 Yeah. 2104 01:34:09,992 --> 01:34:14,952 We got Throbby said, interesting, would love to reconsider energy consumption mid-26. 2105 01:34:15,792 --> 01:34:17,172 That was for the Half-Life of Empires. 2106 01:34:17,512 --> 01:34:18,492 Oh, that would be cool, yeah. 2107 01:34:18,492 --> 01:34:20,752 I think that was like two years ago I covered that one. 2108 01:34:20,872 --> 01:34:21,512 Dude, we should do that. 2109 01:34:21,572 --> 01:34:21,972 Somebody should. 2110 01:34:22,552 --> 01:34:24,252 Yeah, we should follow up with that guy. 2111 01:34:25,752 --> 01:34:28,672 The last one was, I think he's dead wrong on Microsoft. 2112 01:34:29,772 --> 01:34:32,732 Microsoft's focus is 100% on surveillance, a small percentage on everything else. 2113 01:34:32,812 --> 01:34:34,732 Surveillance job one with Microsoft. 2114 01:34:34,852 --> 01:34:35,752 This is the graphing one. 2115 01:34:37,172 --> 01:34:38,292 I don't know what we said about. 2116 01:34:39,392 --> 01:34:42,232 Let's go to the Peter Thiel stuff because this is like the biggest one. 2117 01:34:42,572 --> 01:34:44,252 So we covered the Peter Thiel Antichrist. 2118 01:34:44,352 --> 01:34:45,592 Have you heard about this, Brandon? 2119 01:34:45,932 --> 01:34:46,272 No. 2120 01:34:46,272 --> 01:34:49,692 So Peter Thiel's like talking about the Antichrist, but he's doing this in like San Francisco. 2121 01:34:49,852 --> 01:34:53,252 He just went to Rome last or a month ago. 2122 01:34:53,792 --> 01:34:57,972 And he had another one of these like seminars where he's just talking about the Antichrist. 2123 01:34:58,732 --> 01:34:59,832 And it's kind of weird. 2124 01:35:01,072 --> 01:35:04,652 Game Dev Nerd said there is no the Antichrist. 2125 01:35:04,732 --> 01:35:07,032 And that's a bit of extra biblical lore and fan fiction. 2126 01:35:07,032 --> 01:35:16,172 The coined Greek term meant those against Christ generally referred to false teachers and prophets who distorted or undermined the teachings. 2127 01:35:16,272 --> 01:35:18,052 of Jesus, like many parts of the Bible 2128 01:35:18,052 --> 01:35:20,272 and Christian theology, it got spun into a piece 2129 01:35:20,272 --> 01:35:22,132 of elaborate fan fiction 2130 01:35:22,132 --> 01:35:23,772 lore with hyper-specific story 2131 01:35:23,772 --> 01:35:26,312 about things the Bible does not actually 2132 01:35:26,312 --> 01:35:28,272 describe or mention. If you ask a modern Christian 2133 01:35:28,272 --> 01:35:30,172 to describe the Antichrist, what they would 2134 01:35:30,172 --> 01:35:32,332 give you is a mishmash of books like Dante's Divine 2135 01:35:32,332 --> 01:35:34,412 Comedy and Milton's Paradise Lost 2136 01:35:34,412 --> 01:35:36,192 and Hollywood films like Rosemary, Berry, Baby 2137 01:35:36,192 --> 01:35:38,292 and all that stuff. And then the Greek Catholic 2138 01:35:38,292 --> 01:35:40,092 came underneath, he says, knowing the 2139 01:35:40,092 --> 01:35:41,752 lexical range of 2140 01:35:41,752 --> 01:35:44,492 doesn't erase the fact that 2141 01:35:44,492 --> 01:35:51,132 scripture also speaks of the man of lawlessness the son of perdition and the final eschatological 2142 01:35:51,132 --> 01:35:58,492 opponent john uses antichrist broadly but paul and revelation clearly personify the final figure 2143 01:35:58,492 --> 01:36:04,532 you can't flan all biblical categories until one greek loss um another person said peter teal was 2144 01:36:04,532 --> 01:36:11,072 afraid that him himself is becoming that obviously um and then the last one is like pt and the one 2145 01:36:11,072 --> 01:36:15,612 percent are really scared of consequences finally catching up to all the criminals i go to you 2146 01:36:15,612 --> 01:36:20,872 brandon keys what do you think about those greeks man no but what do you think about this whole like 2147 01:36:20,872 --> 01:36:27,632 this whole kind of like thing yeah i mean i don't know it's the first time i'm hearing about it uh 2148 01:36:27,632 --> 01:36:32,012 so just initial knee-jerk reaction is 2149 01:36:32,012 --> 01:36:38,412 yeah i mean peter teal going and preaching these things is kind of like an interesting character 2150 01:36:38,412 --> 01:36:42,332 but the second coming 2151 01:36:42,332 --> 01:36:44,512 Antichrist is coming I don't know man I feel like 2152 01:36:44,512 --> 01:36:45,532 that's 2153 01:36:45,532 --> 01:36:48,372 maybe he's just going for attention at this point 2154 01:36:48,372 --> 01:36:49,372 I don't know I think 2155 01:36:49,372 --> 01:36:52,472 yeah I think these comments make a lot of 2156 01:36:52,472 --> 01:36:54,472 sense it's just kind of like fan 2157 01:36:54,472 --> 01:36:56,172 fiction or maybe like fear mongering 2158 01:36:56,172 --> 01:36:56,932 in a sense 2159 01:36:56,932 --> 01:36:58,212 yeah 2160 01:36:58,212 --> 01:37:00,652 Keo do you have any thoughts on this 2161 01:37:00,652 --> 01:37:02,832 I mean not any more thoughts than I shared 2162 01:37:02,832 --> 01:37:06,372 initially but Peter Thiel 2163 01:37:06,372 --> 01:37:07,972 is really into Rene 2164 01:37:07,972 --> 01:37:10,592 Gerard and is a Christian 2165 01:37:10,592 --> 01:37:12,712 and does, I think, 2166 01:37:13,052 --> 01:37:14,472 see... 2167 01:37:14,472 --> 01:37:16,312 I don't know. He's interested in exploring 2168 01:37:16,312 --> 01:37:18,532 the topic of the Antichrist just so 2169 01:37:18,532 --> 01:37:20,652 to get the conversation going 2170 01:37:20,652 --> 01:37:22,272 about what 2171 01:37:22,272 --> 01:37:24,392 potentially could be 2172 01:37:24,392 --> 01:37:26,392 materialization 2173 01:37:26,392 --> 01:37:28,672 or the Antichrist 2174 01:37:28,672 --> 01:37:30,812 actually happening. Is there a way 2175 01:37:30,812 --> 01:37:32,672 that warning people can prevent 2176 01:37:32,672 --> 01:37:33,992 it from happening? I think that's his interest. 2177 01:37:34,992 --> 01:37:35,492 And then also, 2178 01:37:35,492 --> 01:37:38,572 I don't know what he believes exactly. 2179 01:37:38,892 --> 01:37:39,792 I haven't watched these lectures. 2180 01:37:39,952 --> 01:37:41,792 I think they were behind closed doors for the most part. 2181 01:37:42,492 --> 01:37:43,732 But it's possible that he, 2182 01:37:46,032 --> 01:37:49,452 even if we don't have the actual Antichrist, 2183 01:37:49,592 --> 01:37:54,652 there are likely evil forces cast within the symbology 2184 01:37:54,652 --> 01:37:56,152 or metaphor of the Antichrist 2185 01:37:56,152 --> 01:38:01,032 might help people in the world spot them 2186 01:38:01,032 --> 01:38:02,992 and prevent them as they come, 2187 01:38:03,092 --> 01:38:04,292 and that might be his interest. 2188 01:38:04,292 --> 01:38:07,912 Like he doesn't see there being much harm in talking about the Antichrist in that way. 2189 01:38:08,152 --> 01:38:10,572 But that's about as much as I have to say. 2190 01:38:11,332 --> 01:38:16,552 Yeah, I think I'm still sticking with what I said last week on the whole thing. 2191 01:38:16,652 --> 01:38:19,392 It was like it's just weird to be talking about this. 2192 01:38:19,572 --> 01:38:23,272 It's just also like you're supposed to become holy within it. 2193 01:38:23,452 --> 01:38:27,552 It's not like a, it's not seen, at least from Catholicism, it's not seen that way. 2194 01:38:28,412 --> 01:38:31,152 But maybe in his denomination it is. 2195 01:38:31,212 --> 01:38:33,352 It's just kind of strange in my opinion. 2196 01:38:33,972 --> 01:38:36,372 But I think, yeah, maybe he's really concerned. 2197 01:38:36,592 --> 01:38:39,692 But somebody should go check on him or something. 2198 01:38:40,432 --> 01:38:40,832 I don't know. 2199 01:38:40,932 --> 01:38:41,252 I don't know. 2200 01:38:41,292 --> 01:38:44,892 I think he probably has enough staff to make sure it's fine, really. 2201 01:38:45,232 --> 01:38:47,072 Or he should come on the pod and talk about it with us 2202 01:38:47,072 --> 01:38:49,872 because we're the only people that will actually talk about it in the tech space. 2203 01:38:50,352 --> 01:38:50,572 I don't know. 2204 01:38:50,572 --> 01:38:52,032 We'll see anybody else talking about it in the tech space. 2205 01:38:52,032 --> 01:38:53,912 Maybe David Bailey could connect you with him. 2206 01:38:54,212 --> 01:38:54,952 David Bailey knows him? 2207 01:38:55,472 --> 01:38:56,272 I would guess so. 2208 01:38:56,272 --> 01:38:56,892 Bailey, hook it up. 2209 01:38:56,912 --> 01:38:57,492 I mean, he's closer. 2210 01:38:57,492 --> 01:38:59,392 He'll answer your messages. 2211 01:38:59,632 --> 01:39:00,852 Bailey doesn't answer my messages. 2212 01:39:01,492 --> 01:39:02,932 I don't know after that podcast. 2213 01:39:03,352 --> 01:39:05,592 I walk him in this room with you. 2214 01:39:05,592 --> 01:39:06,852 He's still watching right now. 2215 01:39:06,852 --> 01:39:18,252 He still watching right now I don think he watching He too busy with the conference and stuff Anyways well you know he does the NACA thing He just dumping on the plebs No but NACA owns the conference and I bet he like still all up in that right 2216 01:39:18,272 --> 01:39:18,632 You think so? 2217 01:39:18,632 --> 01:39:21,012 Because he, like, he was the guy before. 2218 01:39:21,372 --> 01:39:24,212 So I assume that the CEO is leaning on him a lot. 2219 01:39:24,332 --> 01:39:25,172 I bet he's, like, co-CEO. 2220 01:39:25,172 --> 01:39:27,232 That's weird how we were talking about Peter Thiel and the Antichrist, 2221 01:39:27,272 --> 01:39:28,512 and you went automatically to David Bailey. 2222 01:39:28,672 --> 01:39:29,012 That's weird. 2223 01:39:30,372 --> 01:39:31,812 Well, I didn't do it, did I? 2224 01:39:32,152 --> 01:39:33,212 You did do it. 2225 01:39:33,232 --> 01:39:36,592 I mean, I'm not responsible exactly for how my brain works, right? 2226 01:39:36,592 --> 01:39:38,512 I got a lot of brains too, Carl. 2227 01:39:38,572 --> 01:39:38,872 Just say. 2228 01:39:39,172 --> 01:39:41,092 I'm not responsible with how my brain works. 2229 01:39:41,152 --> 01:39:41,652 It's crazy. 2230 01:39:41,712 --> 01:39:42,872 Not entirely, right? 2231 01:39:42,892 --> 01:39:43,912 Am I the one that's drinking? 2232 01:39:43,912 --> 01:39:48,852 There's some initial conditions here that I don't have the levers to. 2233 01:39:49,392 --> 01:39:50,372 Anyways, keep commenting. 2234 01:39:50,532 --> 01:39:51,372 We'll keep talking about it. 2235 01:39:51,432 --> 01:39:52,652 We got found comments too. 2236 01:39:53,932 --> 01:39:56,892 Undisputed says, are you alluding to Cowboy Credits, Carl, our favorite token? 2237 01:39:57,752 --> 01:39:59,752 I don't remember saying anything about the Cowboy Credits last week. 2238 01:40:00,932 --> 01:40:03,472 No, I think he's just making a little fun joke. 2239 01:40:03,512 --> 01:40:03,832 Oh, okay. 2240 01:40:03,992 --> 01:40:05,212 Oh, because we were talking about the SEC. 2241 01:40:05,452 --> 01:40:06,512 Did you hear about the news last week? 2242 01:40:06,592 --> 01:40:11,732 about the SSE clarifying the, what was it, the token? 2243 01:40:12,272 --> 01:40:13,332 I lost my memory right now. 2244 01:40:13,392 --> 01:40:14,592 I'm trying to go to my logical brain. 2245 01:40:14,772 --> 01:40:18,192 It was saying that the ICOs and stuff aren't securities. 2246 01:40:19,292 --> 01:40:24,192 And then Solana and Ethereum and stable coins are also not securities. 2247 01:40:24,192 --> 01:40:25,092 I was alluding to the cowboy credits. 2248 01:40:25,092 --> 01:40:25,492 Gotcha. 2249 01:40:26,272 --> 01:40:27,492 I feel like that's in-game tokens. 2250 01:40:28,152 --> 01:40:33,112 I mean, I think they were referring to the cowboy credits here from Stacker News, man. 2251 01:40:33,212 --> 01:40:35,292 That's how you get to the top. 2252 01:40:36,592 --> 01:40:38,932 Econ takes two to three top stories. 2253 01:40:40,692 --> 01:40:42,552 That was one of Undisputs said, and then Great Movie Zapped. 2254 01:40:43,132 --> 01:40:43,972 What were the top stories? 2255 01:40:44,072 --> 01:40:46,192 I guess that one and some of the other ones were. 2256 01:40:46,412 --> 01:40:48,152 Yeah, I think it might have been a Denpost. 2257 01:40:48,632 --> 01:40:49,212 Oh, yeah. 2258 01:40:49,372 --> 01:40:49,652 Yeah. 2259 01:40:49,792 --> 01:40:50,332 That makes sense. 2260 01:40:50,572 --> 01:40:51,912 One of his economists. 2261 01:40:52,172 --> 01:40:52,452 Cool. 2262 01:40:52,572 --> 01:40:53,912 That's all the stories this week. 2263 01:40:54,372 --> 01:40:56,492 Let's see if we got any comments at the bottom. 2264 01:40:56,872 --> 01:40:57,272 No. 2265 01:40:57,472 --> 01:40:58,092 Good thing. 2266 01:40:58,412 --> 01:40:58,692 Cool. 2267 01:40:59,312 --> 01:41:00,692 Guion, what are you doing this weekend? 2268 01:41:01,692 --> 01:41:02,352 What am I doing? 2269 01:41:02,352 --> 01:41:10,532 um it's a great question that i don't have a answer for that's not really any good yeah i don't think 2270 01:41:10,532 --> 01:41:17,532 i'm doing i'm not doing anything so i'm excited about that and um that should be great how about 2271 01:41:17,532 --> 01:41:23,152 you what are you up to brady keys what are you up to what am i up to oh my goodness who knows man 2272 01:41:23,152 --> 01:41:29,792 crazy stuff probably you know flipping a car over lighting it on fire you know just alone yeah just 2273 01:41:29,792 --> 01:41:31,352 It's an average weekend, you know. 2274 01:41:31,892 --> 01:41:34,672 No, I'm honestly probably just, you know, 2275 01:41:34,712 --> 01:41:37,172 maybe I'll go hang out with some friends tonight, 2276 01:41:37,172 --> 01:41:39,652 and then the rest of the weekend just working, man. 2277 01:41:40,112 --> 01:41:40,772 Love to see you. 2278 01:41:40,792 --> 01:41:42,192 On the head down grinding, boys. 2279 01:41:42,192 --> 01:41:42,572 Love to hear it. 2280 01:41:42,792 --> 01:41:44,012 Record some videos. 2281 01:41:44,592 --> 01:41:45,712 Get some plans going. 2282 01:41:45,712 --> 01:41:47,212 Oh, yeah, we should shout out Green Candle. 2283 01:41:47,852 --> 01:41:49,412 Thank you for coming on the show. 2284 01:41:49,512 --> 01:41:50,612 Let me see if we can go to. 2285 01:41:50,692 --> 01:41:51,852 You don't need to shout me out. 2286 01:41:52,252 --> 01:41:53,712 Zachary's don't even probably know. 2287 01:41:54,132 --> 01:41:55,732 I wonder, do you think the Zachary's know who he is? 2288 01:41:55,792 --> 01:41:57,352 I bet some of them do. 2289 01:41:57,692 --> 01:41:57,972 They do? 2290 01:41:58,192 --> 01:41:58,852 Green Candle. 2291 01:41:58,852 --> 01:42:00,972 You just search Green Candle 2292 01:42:00,972 --> 01:42:02,712 Does it come up first? Oh there it goes 2293 01:42:02,712 --> 01:42:03,872 Oh Boog listens, okay 2294 01:42:03,872 --> 01:42:05,532 But yeah, this is Green Candle 2295 01:42:05,532 --> 01:42:09,012 Brandon, what do you want to tell us about what's going on in your channel? 2296 01:42:10,012 --> 01:42:10,372 Yeah 2297 01:42:10,372 --> 01:42:11,252 Look at those numbers 2298 01:42:11,252 --> 01:42:15,852 Well, I'm getting a little away from the podcast 2299 01:42:15,852 --> 01:42:17,852 I'm doing more videos myself 2300 01:42:17,852 --> 01:42:19,972 Just me talking to the camera 2301 01:42:19,972 --> 01:42:22,652 So I hope you guys like it 2302 01:42:22,652 --> 01:42:24,752 Yeah, I'd love to hear some feedback on it 2303 01:42:24,752 --> 01:42:27,032 Trying to get more into that 2304 01:42:27,032 --> 01:42:27,612 So 2305 01:42:27,612 --> 01:42:32,632 yeah i've been reading your sub stack it's really good i always post it on on the slack 2306 01:42:32,632 --> 01:42:39,112 yeah so i always uh yeah i also yeah i have my sub stack i'm uh a lot of these live streams that 2307 01:42:39,112 --> 01:42:46,272 i do i i also write a sub stack article so if you like it more in the written form um yeah i 2308 01:42:46,272 --> 01:42:53,272 kind of hit it hit it from all angles uh when i did yesterday or no two days ago it was about the 2309 01:42:53,272 --> 01:43:00,832 Walmart is now bringing in some digital, some new signs into their online store. 2310 01:43:00,992 --> 01:43:01,752 Yeah, I saw that. 2311 01:43:01,812 --> 01:43:03,452 The digital shelf stuff. 2312 01:43:03,732 --> 01:43:03,992 Yeah. 2313 01:43:05,632 --> 01:43:09,152 Bringing more dynamic pricing into the initial stuff. 2314 01:43:09,152 --> 01:43:09,372 Look at your comment stream. 2315 01:43:09,572 --> 01:43:10,452 Look at that, dude. 2316 01:43:10,512 --> 01:43:11,992 They're all actively engaged. 2317 01:43:13,312 --> 01:43:15,832 Yeah, you know, we get some people in there every now and then. 2318 01:43:16,132 --> 01:43:17,112 Wow, that's crazy. 2319 01:43:17,632 --> 01:43:18,412 What's that like? 2320 01:43:20,252 --> 01:43:21,872 I think we have like three people. 2321 01:43:21,872 --> 01:43:22,552 I'm not a star yet. 2322 01:43:22,552 --> 01:43:24,412 not a star by any means. 2323 01:43:25,312 --> 01:43:26,972 Keon, when are we going to get comments like that 2324 01:43:26,972 --> 01:43:27,612 just in the... 2325 01:43:27,612 --> 01:43:30,712 I'm the tiz hat 2326 01:43:30,712 --> 01:43:31,592 component of this. 2327 01:43:32,112 --> 01:43:33,752 This looks cool, Brandon. 2328 01:43:35,072 --> 01:43:36,752 Thanks, man. Appreciate that. 2329 01:43:37,092 --> 01:43:38,052 Check out Green Candle. 2330 01:43:38,592 --> 01:43:40,292 All the links are right here. Follow them on Twitter. 2331 01:43:40,392 --> 01:43:40,992 If you're on Twitter. 2332 01:43:42,632 --> 01:43:43,932 On Spotify too as well. 2333 01:43:44,172 --> 01:43:46,772 TikTok? How do you do on TikTok? 2334 01:43:46,952 --> 01:43:48,952 I don't post any clips on TikTok 2335 01:43:48,952 --> 01:43:51,092 yet. I did it for a little 2336 01:43:51,092 --> 01:43:57,572 bit um actually maybe breaking news here on stacker news but i have my uh one of my guys is 2337 01:43:57,572 --> 01:44:05,612 working on uh creating basically like an opus clip vibe coding it so he's gonna make uh his own 2338 01:44:05,612 --> 01:44:10,332 kind of thing and and put in some b-roll and do all that and he's gonna start making clips for me 2339 01:44:10,332 --> 01:44:16,972 so hell yeah so maybe the tiktok will start to get active again so watch out might be a tiktok star 2340 01:44:16,972 --> 01:44:17,372 here. 2341 01:44:19,392 --> 01:44:20,512 It's going to blow up. 2342 01:44:21,292 --> 01:44:23,012 Stackers, we will see 2343 01:44:23,012 --> 01:44:24,512 you next time. 2344 01:44:25,132 --> 01:44:26,192 Keon. Zap. 2345 01:44:27,312 --> 01:44:27,752 Alright.