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Hey, everybody.
He's at least seated at the table.
He doesn't have a microphone.
So he's just, yeah.
Yeah.
He's off camera.
He's just keeping a close watch on, making sure we don't say anything too silly.
I mean, we're going to talk about Quantum today, so maybe he'll come in and talk about that stuff.
Kian, how was your week?
It was great.
I got, I binge drank one of the days.
and then another day I went to a Theovan, would you call it a concert?
Show.
Theovan's show.
Because he's like getting close to recording his special.
So his material should be or was presumed to be ripe and ready for,
I think he's been torn with that material for like three years.
And it was good.
It was a good show.
he seemed kind of agitated or anxious but otherwise it was a good show there were lots
of bits in there i thought that were very strong um and yeah it's always weird it's always a bit
of a dice roll when you go to a a podcaster that you find funny and you go to their stand-up show
because sometimes it doesn't translate sometimes they're funny in an interview situation or you
know just in front of a microphone with a camera and then other times not on stage but theo's funny
on stage and he has a lot more he has his uh stage presence he's like it's like more physical than i
would have uh presumed anyway that was my week how about yours car how was your week it was good
i had a birthday week had like two birthday parties this past week wow with my family one
with you guys. Whose birthday was it?
My birthday.
It was cool, man.
We got really drunk. Me and Keon got really drunk.
That was fun. Yeah, we set this place
on fire. The roof was like actually
on fire. Oh, it turns out it was just a
dishwasher. It was a dishwasher on the fourth floor.
I asked the security guys.
I didn't even know dishwashers
could smoke. I thought they were full of water.
You would think, right? You would think that.
But maybe it was the electrical behind the dishwasher.
That's the only thing I could think of.
They're usually underneath. I said it was an old dishwasher.
Yeah, they use a different voltage, don't they?
Like, they use the same ones, the same as the refrigerators, or no?
They use 120 volt, usually.
Yeah, I'm not sure.
But, yeah, it was a great week.
And it's also Holy Week this week, so a lot of stuff going on at church.
Yeah, so it's just been, yeah, it doesn't usually happen,
like where my birthday falls into the same week as Holy Week,
but it has happened in the past, like a long time ago when I was younger.
It was the last time it probably happened.
But when it does, it's always, like, really kind of special.
It makes it a really special week.
Cool.
We're going to jump into the top.
Oh, I should say, before, if you've never seen this crazy show before,
it's called Stacker Knees Live.
It's the front page of Bitcoin.
Boom, boom, boom.
Pay to post and earn stats.
Last week's most popular video was the, where was it at?
I saw it.
Oh, yeah, it was the Elon one.
So apparently when we're talking about Elon, a lot of people tuned in for that.
They love Elon and the Tarifab stuff.
If you didn't see the sharks and cocaine one, that was a hilarious segment.
You should probably look at that.
And then Wombol's posting more stuff there.
So, yeah, check it out.
Check it out and don't subscribe.
Don't subscribe.
Just watch live.
The other thing I was going to say is I think that's it.
Let's jump into the top three stories this week.
The number three top story this week is watch Bitcoin's mempool as a live traffic simulation.
This is highway and space theme from Rob Revolver.
Six comments, 9,458 sats.
Kion, what's this?
Yeah, it's just a fun visualization of transactions coming into the mempool,
visualized as cars on a road.
And you can kind of, and then there's like a little graphic on the bottom there
where you can see the transactions coming in
and waiting to be mined at a red light.
It's just a kind of...
I think they're pulling mempool for this data
and then visualizing it.
I don't know what the extreme fear one means.
We should add Frogger so you can play Frogger during this.
That would be a lot of fun
because imagine you just hop there and be like,
oh, I'm crossing.
You can also switch it to space mode.
You go hop, cross in there,
and then you go over there,
and then you hop across there.
I've never played Frogger.
I think that would be pretty cool.
And then you get to the top,
and maybe it gives you some Bitcoin or something.
Yeah, no one wants to give you Bitcoin.
If you hit where Classic is, if you hit Space,
it'll switch to spacecraft rather than cars.
Yeah.
Do you not want to hit it?
No, listen to what they were saying.
We have some people that are visiting the library at the same time.
But you were saying yes, like you were responding.
Yeah, I know.
I always do that with you.
You finally caught me.
I'm just kidding.
I just wanted to make it.
I know you don't listen to me, but I wanted to make it clear to the viewers.
No, I was literally listening.
It's just like there's people who are here trying to come inside,
and I don't know what's going on because it looks like.
Yeah, listening involves actually processing.
I wish I could point the camera this way so we could see what's going on.
It looks like an altercation.
Anyways, we're going to keep rolling.
So this is cool, Keon.
I like it.
Glad you like it.
Yeah.
Who made it?
I don't know.
Someone just apped it a lot.
Someone shared it, and then someone zapped it a lot.
So it made it into the top story.
Ooh, space.
Then probably German, I think.
Oh, yes.
See, this one we could do like a Galaga.
Oh, man, just go boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop, boop,
and try to shoot them down like little aliens.
So you made like a Blue's Clothes voice there.
No.
Oh, this is cool, man.
This is really neat.
I'm going to probably just throw it on this TV all day, right?
I mean, who doesn't want to look at this?
I mean, this is, yeah, a more fun visualization than, like, all the...
The other one that we have there?
Yeah.
Whatever that one's called.
It's more fun to look at.
Yeah, I like this one.
Where we can make it around.
Yeah.
Cool stuff.
What did the stacker say?
Top comment was from Scoresby.
He said, this is great.
Did you come up with this idea?
He said, I just found the spaceship version.
Somebody else said, NGL.
Oh, Blockchain Book said, NGL, this is cool.
I wonder what Schmitty shared down there.
Oh, Schmitty shared truckyard.life.
What is this?
Oh, this is another one.
Oh, wow.
That's interesting.
Oh, cool.
But it has, ah, it visualizes truck transactions.
This is kind of cool.
Whoa.
And then you submit a transaction?
Submit a transaction?
You can broadcast them.
Oh, wow.
I bet you there's like, somebody should make like a whole list of these.
I bet you there's so many visualizers.
I only know, like, the big ones.
I know there was a South Park one, a South Park theme one,
where, like, kids getting onto a bus and waiting at, like, a bus stop.
These are always neat, man.
These would make, like, a really good, like, widget on your watch or something
or on your, like, phone.
You know what I mean?
If you could shrink it down that high.
That was fun.
Yeah, they're fun.
They're fun.
Look at this one.
This one's speeding through.
Oh wait, did I stomp them?
Oh, I did stomp them.
That's cool.
Wait a second.
Boom.
Stomp them right there.
Seven sats per V-buy?
That's kind of pricey.
Two sats per V-buy?
What's going on?
Anyways, yeah, that's cool.
So check it out.
Txrush.com or the other one, which was called Truckyard.live.
We're going to go to the number two top story this week.
It's personal Sats inflation, part 5, March 2026, featuring QOQ numbers.
This is from Unboiled, 8,058 Sats.
Keanu, what's this?
Yeah, so Unboiled did another monthly update on their Sats inflation.
We covered this, I think, about a month ago on Stack the News Live,
where they described the sats per unit change that they experienced
as they paid for things like electricity, fuel, milk, and phone data in South America.
And up until that point, I think they'd been doing it for, I don't know, a year or so,
at least the time that they were located in South Africa,
and they could spend sats on these things.
It looked like they were experiencing inflation as priced in sats.
and it was, I think this year was maybe their best year in terms of deflation
and from the tables that were up there before you could see that they're paying less.
11% less than electricity, 8% less than fuel, 5% less than milk.
Milk, yeah, that's interesting.
Although they didn't have data for phone or water,
They estimate that they probably would have paid less in Sats this past month.
So that's good news for their Bitcoin, for their holdings.
And they give us an update on their plans for the rest of the year.
I guess they're leaving South Africa because they're a nomadic family
and they're going to be traveling across Europe and Asia until South Africa is back in summer.
And, yeah, so they won't have an update for us, and they don't want to do exchange rate pricing.
They don't want to pay for things in fiat and then tell us what that costs them in sats.
They think that kind of messes with the experiment a bit or the purity, which I think makes sense.
So we'll have to wait until they go back to South Africa six months or so from now for the next update.
But that's it.
There was a bit of Sats deflation this past month.
Yeah, that is interesting.
So they basically have lived just with Sats, huh?
At least for as much as they can.
That's cool.
Very interesting numbers.
Only possible in South Africa.
Is this the same people that shared all the photos and stuff?
Where they were mining, too, and stuff?
Or is this a different...
This is from Unboiled, who I don't think they've shared much in terms of mining.
It looks like there's one from before, too.
Yeah, that was the one we covered a month ago.
Interesting.
Yeah, so was it better?
Oh, it looks like it was better.
Interesting.
And then you go back to part three.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so it looks like they've done better over time.
Yeah.
Before most of the posts in this series, the Bitcoin price was, or the exchange rate was
fall.
I feel like these type of people we should get for like AMAs, man.
what would you ask them?
really interesting questions
I was just
you could probably ask here on this podcast
and they might hear it in the next post
they might address it
they're probably not listening to this
I don't think anyone listens to this
why would they?
it's like Scoresby's asking
thanks for doing this
this is an excellent series
and one to which I always look forward to
I just want to say I really enjoyed this
look forward to
yeah here goes
do you see much more BTC
adoption NSA these days
do you feel safe and what not
and he goes
I do notice more interest than in many other places
but that may be
well because I know a lot of Bitcoiners
he said
do you feel safe yes but I also
know what to look out for
which situations to avoid in which areas
during what times
so yeah
interesting
that's cool well thanks for posting this one bold i look forward to the next one next month
um the number one top story this week is foundry seven block streak luck or structural edge
question mark the consecutive block adv this is from saru 11,400 k cents keon what's this
Yeah, so Saru did another Bitcoin data project, I think, or a Bitcoin data labs project where he, following the seven consecutive block streak that we saw from Foundry recently that we covered on the last Stacker News Live, which also coincided with a two block reorg.
They went and looked at whether there was anything stranger than you'd expect going
on because most of us kind of assume that a miner will mine blocks in proportion to
how much hash rate they have.
And so that means that they should be getting two consecutive blocks or three consecutive
blocks over time at a certain average, and it appears that these consecutive blocks happen
more frequently than we would estimate, which suggests that there are other dynamics going
on.
And so they investigated some hypotheses related to what could be going on, things like
header-only mining, you know, mining empty blocks, things like pools colluding with each
other or sharing block headers with each other before they've broadcast them to the rest of the
network. Are you listening to music? I'm listening to you. Okay. And I just have like such a musical
cadence that you like to dance to it. And then I think another possibility they looked at was
pools not somehow hiding their hash rate. They call it like, I think, a ghost hash rate or ghost
mining. They didn't really see any evidence of anything like that. It mostly appears to be a
block latency thing. So you broadcast them and if miners are co-located or
near each other, they're just more likely to get the block headers sooner and will begin mining
faster than other network participants, and that's likely why we're seeing things that
look a little – or that's why we had the Blockery org.
And yeah, I thought it was – I mean, it's pretty cool.
You can go in and kind of really dive deep in this stuff.
They used data from the BNOC project to do this work.
And then before that, they used data from, I think, that Wop had archived from his node
that he had shared on GitHub at some point, I think.
But yeah, I love the stuff.
It's pretty cool.
It's kind of hard to know what to think.
People can say a lot of things without backing up with data,
and this makes it easy to back stuff up with data.
Yeah, check out the GitHub.
Suru posted it here.
Yeah.
Shrukomar slash bitcoin-mining-pools on GitHub.
Man, this looks really, really in-depth, man.
He's added a lot of stuff since the last time he's seen this site.
which wasn't too long ago, actually.
Cool stuff, man.
We got the top comment from Scoresby.
He said, your forensic dashboard is pretty awesome.
I'm shocked that I didn't know about it.
Great work on this.
I think I need to spend a few days looking at it.
There's so much there.
Saru said, thanks, feedback.
Welcome as you explore.
I've been debating whether to expand the pool profile behavior section.
Would be great if it actually helps miners decide where to mine.
Optimus said, I also like it.
Yes, SP2 would be great to see, or even anything proprietary from large pools like Ocean's proprietary solution.
Cool stuff.
Nice.
And that's the number one story this week on Stacker News Live.
We're going to jump into Wumble's Picks.
Wumble's Picks.
Wumble Pick this week.
Blocking the Internet Archive will erase the web's historical record.
This is from Zuss Postorico.
Two comments, 1,766 cents.
Keon, did you read this?
I did read it.
It was Wombo's pick.
I'm fiduciary.
I'm somewhat, I don't know what the right word is, but I'm obligated to read these.
When Wombo picks them.
And it looks like this is written in response to the New York Times
blocking the Internet Archive from archiving their articles.
Usually, oftentimes when stuff is behind a paywall, many of us will go to the Internet
Archive and ask it to archive the article for us so that we can read it without having
to get behind the paywall.
And the New York Times is now blocking that.
So basically we won't have a historical record of any of the content on websites like New
York Times and they expect other publications to follow suit and more websites to do the
same.
And New York Times, I think, defended this by saying they were trying to protect themselves
from AI scraping them without them getting compensated.
Yeah, but their argument is it kind of ruins this historical record that we have where we
We can prove that a publication got updated without making a little notice on it, telling
people that they updated it.
Or it just helps us keep track of things that have happened over time to these sites and
things that have happened in the world in many cases, because a lot of stuff that happens
in the world gets reported on the internet.
And so this is maybe, we don't want to see this trend continue is kind of their argument.
And they hope that people don't do this.
I experienced this this week even before reading this article.
I was trying to archive something from the New York Times.
There was a story about a guy who runs a GLP-1 online company,
mostly staffed by AI, like a variety of AI agents that made like $2 billion
or expects to make $2 billion in revenue next year.
But I couldn't get it to work, and I didn't know why,
and I guess what happened was this.
the New York Times stepped up their defenses against
what some people might call
scraping.
Gatekeeping.
Happens in the real world too.
That's interesting.
He had a question. Let's see if we can go back there.
Let's see here. Is the New York Times
on the wrong side of history in trying to prevent web crawlers
and AI from assessing their news articles.
Kion, what do you think?
Well, I don't know what side's history has.
I think this is a short-term thing for them.
I think they're probably trying to increase subscribers.
They probably would like these AI providers to pay them for any training data
they are unintentionally creating.
And so I guess that's why they're doing this.
I think long-term, it will hurt them.
I think long-term, it will hurt their relevance.
I think they're going to not be served in AI results.
They're not going to be referenced there when these bots want to provide references to things
or customers request it because they won even be part of the training data And those bots won be able to crawl them to use them as a reference And these bots are increasingly the way that we interact with content on the internet
So I think they're just going to continue to lose relevance.
I mean, I don't know what the right solution for them is, but with technology, you tend to have to lean into it.
It kind of has a direction to it, an arrow.
and you can't really fight it.
And I think that's what they're doing
and I think that will end up hurting them in the long run.
It might help their quarterly subscriber numbers or something,
but yeah.
Yeah, I think I kind of see it a different way,
but not too much, just almost like slightly.
I think the biggest thing here with like,
he was talking about history.
I think what Wumble's trying to say,
like how will this kind of play out through history?
And the only thing I can kind of equate it to Wumble
is like the, it's kind of like when the,
like when people knew how to write
and then the Bible started getting spread everywhere.
And then we saw it again with like the Gutenberg press, right?
That was another thing.
And this kind of reminds me of that kind of moment now
where maybe AI is kind of like that kind of technology
where it's just shifting the way people share things and remix things.
Maybe we're entering that kind of, like, moment in time.
So, yeah, I don't know if that's the right side or the wrong side,
but that's kind of where my intuition is kind of telling me.
That's kind of where we're at.
And then as far as, like, the other question he added in there was, like,
the web crawlers thing.
yeah I think I think as far as I think I agree with Kian it's like it's kind of one of those
things like those people need to get paid for their writing and stuff like that but it's like
how do you figure out how to pay them in this kind of this kind of shift but it kind of goes
back to like if we go back we look through history and we see that you know maybe there's like
one person in town that knew how to write and knew how to speak or you know that language or whatever
or write in that language just to say like what happened when like all of a sudden everybody
knows how to write and has a pen, you know?
So it's kind of one of those things.
Maybe they didn't get paid the same.
Maybe they got paid less because not everybody has it.
So I don't know.
Just kind of, I don't know.
I don't know if that answers his question or not.
Well, only Wumble can decide.
Wumble will pick who answered better.
Wumble's Picks.
We'll see you next time on Wumble's Picks.
Yeah.
There you go.
you'll like that one uh we're gonna jump into the ai stuff the i want to share this one because
carvalho wrote this and then he posted it on snacker news kind of posted everywhere but i
don't think he got a lot of traction um it's called the age of social intelligence um this
was a fascinating one so he kind of he kind of writes his kind of um this kind of thesis of like
ai is eating the world and like what is the next big thing everybody's trying to predict that
and he kind of just goes
he kind of just goes
kind of talks
I don't want to say he's talking his book
but he's talking about how like Pubkey's trying to change that
and I thought he did a really good job
of explaining like
you know he says it here
for most of human history social intelligence was
intrinsic
you knew community reputation traveled by word of mouth
trust was earned in person tested over time
and contextual you didn't trust your butcher
all that sort of thing
and he goes but
Now, discovery became algorithmic.
Reputation became captive to counts you don't own.
And he thinks that's where, you know, a lot of this stuff is kind of going to start changing.
And this is where he's been really harping in on the semantic social graph that he's been talking a lot about.
And I'm not going to go too much into it, but I do want to share a video here at the bottom.
And they kind of go through PubKey.
and you can kind of see like how he's implementing that in there
i think one of the most interesting things i've used it i haven't used this latest version
are the tags i think the tags are the most interesting thing when it comes to pup key
but he's definitely taken a different approach and we've had him on the show before and he's
kind of explained this before but just wanted to share that because i feel like john always puts a
really strong effort in like getting his points across and then he also does a really good job of
trying to get feedback on those points so just want to share that. Keanu did you check this out
have you played with PubKey at all? I didn't see this I tried it during their private beta that
they invited I think quite a mostly developers and other people who are developer adjacent
and Bitcoin too so I'm familiar with the concept and I tried the BitKey wallet or PubKey wallet I
I don't know. Is it BitKey?
Or is BitKey the block wallet?
Maybe they both have the same name.
Yeah.
What's up with BitKit?
BitKit. There you go. BitKit wallet. That's it.
Yeah.
And so I'm familiar with what he's trying to do broadly.
And I think it's an interesting, compelling approach
to solving some of the problems that either traditional social media has
or problems that Noster is taking a slightly different approach to.
And I think it's pretty cool.
And I think John also recently was renewed.
It's not a grant, but I think his team received funding again from Tether.
So they're going to keep building out Synonym and PubKey.
And so I'm looking forward to seeing what they do.
It's kind of cool.
I feel like now that we've kind of seen Synonym kind of play out the past four or five years, whatever it's been,
I do get the sense that he's kind of like their lab, that he's just kind of like, just, you know,
he basically just is able to paint, right, with his team.
and I think that's probably the coolest thing about that specific company.
It's just like, and John has like these really big ideas
and a lot of them are, I would say they're definitely,
someone needs to address them
and it's cool that somebody like John is actually like,
you know, going after these big ideas
and it's money well spent in my opinion.
So anyways, just wanted to share that
because I thought that was a good article.
So the other one was the, yeah, let's go to this one.
The OpenAI acquires TBPN.
I don't know if you saw this one, Keon.
But OpenAI acquired the podcast network, a podcast network.
That's like really popular on Twitter.
Yeah.
I never watched their show.
I do see their clips in my feed on X occasionally.
But it always looked like super dystopian and like a parody of a news show or a podcast,
which, yeah, it just kind of distracted me aesthetically.
And so I never watched them, even though they'd have guests that I wouldn't mind hearing from
because it just seemed like they were trying to fuck with me.
And, you know, so maybe that means it's a great pairing for OpenAI
and the dystopia they plan to create.
You want to line up the symbology and the aesthetic.
I wonder what they're going to do with them.
I think Sam, you shared a tweet in that thread from Sam Altman
where he's like, we bought them because we like them.
They're not going to promote anything from OpenAI
or hold, what is it called?
hold back your punches.
Pull punches.
They're not going to pull punches towards open AI.
Then why buy them?
It doesn't really make any sense.
So I suspect there will be,
this is like a Washington Post type acquisition maybe.
Like when Bezos acquired Washington Post
and would kind of like push narratives.
like if they're not going to be directly doing open AI
like lobbying on a social platform level
they are probably going to be shaping tech narratives
that suits open AI
or is just like outright lying, I don't know.
Yeah, I mean they were really popular on
Twitter because I think they would get
the most views, the most everything, just based off of what I've seen.
I would see their clips all the time, especially when it comes to the AI stuff.
They're just like, if you're doing AI and you're not on Twitter,
you're kind of missing the boat on what's going on in AI.
And these guys would always have some of the big names on their thing.
And they're really young.
They're like really young guys.
Apparently, I think he said it in one of the tweets that they knew them,
or one of them knew Sam.
and so I guess through YC, through the YC days.
So it was really cool to see, like, I guess that relationship has kind of flourished,
and it also felt kind of like it was probably, I'm not going to say planned,
but it was definitely talked about probably over dinners, I'd imagine.
And really interesting stuff.
Looking forward to seeing what kind of happens next,
because this definitely gets me on their radar now,
because I wasn't really a listener.
was more of like a clip viewer but uh what i did see in the clips i definitely liked i think the
i think the interviewing style that they do like the back and forth interviewing style is like
really really good it's like really top notch um and then um i'm gonna probably be following them
more closely now because i mean outside of them and the what's the other one the the jace calacan
podcast all in yeah i thought of that one and this one i don't know what other podcasts were
at that level on Twitter that I would see.
But, I mean, it makes sense to stand by.
Interesting.
Cool.
The other big news that was kind of,
I don't know if anybody's talking about this,
but I saw this, that Blockchain Boog posted this week.
U.S. or I should just read the thing.
Japanese and U.S. companies have announced
a launch of Portsmouth Consortium
under the U.S.-Japan strategic trade investment agreement
to support large-scale power generation and AI infrastructure development in Piketon, Ohio.
I don't know if you saw this, but this was, that's a lot of Bitcoin.
Let me close that.
Right there.
9.2 gigawatt.
Topher, what do you think about that?
9.2 gigawatt.
It's enough to travel back in time.
I don't know what you think about that.
Do you think you can travel back in time with only 9.2 gigawatts?
Like once we eventually have time machines or have OpenAI design
and create our time machines for us with Optimus robots,
do you think it will only take 9.2 gigawatts?
I don't know.
I'm only going by like Hollywood math here.
Okay.
I'd love to see that math textbook.
Hollywood math textbook.
but uh they're gonna invest a total of 500 billion to break ground on the data center
uh within this year that's incredible and it's in ohio
bro i guess they're near all that water so they're probably like a lot is there probably
it's probably a lot of um hydro in ohio i imagine or i know there's coal up there too
probably got all kinds of
all kinds of wattage up there.
I guess Boog
got the early leak, I guess. I don't know
what's going on here. Or he falls all this
stuff, right? His thoughts, Boog's
thoughts was in. I ain't watering. 7.5
million. Bitcoin is crazy. KMI
is getting in on this action. This
AI race is something incredible. I really do
believe it's getting so big. If anything starts to
fail, expect a bailout. Exclamation point.
Boog out.
That's what he said.
Boog out!
What do you think, Keon?
About what?
About what Boog said there.
The AO race is incredible, and it's getting big, and it might fail.
Exclamation point.
And it might get bailed out.
Yeah, why not?
That seems consistent with what's happened throughout history,
at least recent history.
Optimism said
just means Bitcoin is undervalued, right?
Right.
Blockchain book says, right. This is my
goal with Stacker News and my construction engineering territory.
The Chronicle.
It's Chronicle
and everything. I love it. Love to see it, boo.
That was the other one.
That was all the AI stories I think I had this week.
Let's jump
into Keyon Stories.
BitProjects
DashIO turns off
If it's 3,000 plus nodes, Bitcoin network keeps on going.
Keon, what's this?
Yeah, so bitprojects.io is a project that someone created to communicate.
It appears that they were attempting to communicate to people that node count doesn't matter
and that you can have with some modest resources.
You could make it appear like one node was several.
in this case several thousand
because there was a lot of
over the last six months or so there's been a lot
specifically from the Nots camp
there's a lot of noise
about
Nots nodes coming online
and I think their point
was that it doesn't really
mean anything it's easy to Sybil
node count because they're not doing any
work they're mostly
residing and they have like
an IP address allocated to them
is at most what you can say about them.
And I guess they bought an IP address block
and with a little bit of networking magic,
I think they made, I think probably tens of nodes
appear like several thousand
and proved I think that you can't rely on node count
for social consensus or any kind of consensus really.
They described the setup there.
They had a 10 gig link.
They had three Dell nodes.
They had half of a rack that was co-located.
And they have other router configuration stuff, HA proxy.
okay yeah they said they had
12 to 36
times LXE
Bitcoin nodes
I think LXE is a container
framework
yeah I just thought that was
I thought that was interesting
so this was specifically
the story was about them shutting down
that project
and a lot of people noticed that they were shutting it down
because they began to get a lot more incoming connections,
like a huge uptick.
0xB10C shared a graph of the increase of incoming connections
that they received because all of the nodes
that were previously connected to these 3,000 fake nodes
needed to find new nodes to connect to,
and everyone's nodes on the network saw new incoming connections.
Yeah, so it looks like the top comment was from through to AD8. He said, so what's the
vulnerability? I don't get it. And then Daryl Zero said, right, that made no sense at all.
What was the point of using all those nodes to signal for a Bitcoin 10 question mark?
Yeah, yeah. The vulnerability was mostly, it's not at like Bitcoin. It's not a vulnerability
in Bitcoin, it's a vulnerability in some of the way Bitcoin influencers on X primarily
were thinking about Bitcoin.
It's a vulnerability in those people's thinking about what node count and version of Bitcoin
software as communicated by node count means.
It means not nothing, maybe not nothing, very close to nothing, practically nothing.
You can't count on it for anything.
interesting stuff um let's jump into the next one that you had it was um
quantum computing bombshells that are not april fools from scott harrison scores we posted it uh
2003 for the success kia uh this week there were two papers that came out about quantum stuff uh
One from Caltech showing that they could do quantum stuff with, I think, less work than they previously thought.
I don't actually understand all the things involved in any of these quantum circuits,
but I guess they changed something about what they were doing and showed that it required less quantum things than it required before.
And then similarly, Google showed that they implemented Shor's algorithm using a quantum circuit that required less qubits than was previously thought, I think, by an order of magnitude.
And then I shared the Scott Aronson thing because he's an independent party who isn't associated with anyone who's, as far as I know, is profiting from one way or another.
He doesn't seem to have a bone to pick against Bitcoin.
and largely his conclusion was that this doesn't really change much
except that there's been maybe once we solve the problem
that quantum computers have not yet solved
that would require breaking electric curves,
this might shorten the timeline a little bit.
But it's still not determinate how long away this is.
And so is it five years, ten years, much longer?
All this does is kind of change what happens as we get, once those fundamental problems are solved,
which are indeterminate, the length of time that it might take to solve them.
Can you give Topher the mic real quick?
Because I know he's working on some quantum stuff.
Yeah, but still kind of keeping that hush-hush.
Okay.
Take that out, Wumble.
yeah i mean i feel like this is this is credible um
i mean this is just like the natural progression of science
and uh there's just too many advantages to quantum computing that um
that yeah this is going to happen eventually it's just a matter of like
is it sooner rather than later and um looks like this person's in austin too
Yeah, they're a professor at YouTube.
Carr, you had this analogy the other day where it's like,
you know, if you have this like crazy neighbor,
and then your neighbor goes out and gets a gun.
That's for in-lab talk only.
You know, maybe it would be nice that you have a gun too.
I didn't say it like that.
I said because people we were asking we got into a big old discussion on quantum inside our slack and stuff and then uh yeah anyway long story short like i was like well it kind of one of those
things where if you're if you're if you're a neighbor meaning like the united states government
is like just like shooting shooting bullets in the air like like throwing ragers like beating his
wife like doing all these different things like at some point uh and and at some point he's like
coming over and knocking on your door and saying hey man you want to come hang out at some point
you're going to be like you know like well maybe i should protect myself just in case because
you know if all i'm saying is like if the government gets a hold of this or if they're
doing something with it like there's no telling what they're going to do with quantum and what
they're going to attack with it so as as the next door neighbor that is bitcoin i think it's probably
wise to like maybe i mean we're always talking about like the government stuff in bitcoin
and i feel like in this one scenario where it's like literally the government
that is building out this stuff quietly and not telling anybody
yeah we're all kind of like oh no but they're good on this stuff like it's like dude they can't
control themselves. Yeah, like why not have like a little quantum protection, right? I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know. I just know that that's kind of analogy. It just makes sense
to maybe have an idea of what's going on. But it looks like everybody does in Bitcoin. I'm not
saying that. I mean, other people are already upgrading to post-quantum cryptography and
different signature schemes. But I think the debate for me personally has already,
like we were talking about narrative earlier, and the narrative is already out there.
So people already believe that quantum's a potential threat to Bitcoin.
That's just what people believe.
I'm not saying it's the truth.
It's just the narrative's out there.
It's already been set.
And, I mean, this is why Sama bought that podcast,
the set narrative.
But I don't know, man.
Yeah.
My concern isn't that, like, there's nothing we can do
because there's actually plenty of things that we can do.
because there's already like post-chronous cryptography that's being implemented all over
the place there's already like standards set for what post-chronous cryptography looks like
like what different algorithms should be used like that process of converting over is already
happening and just in technology in general so it's just a matter of like okay well when is bitcoin
going to do it and like what is it going to take for bitcoin to do it like uh is it going to take
an attack is it going to take like somebody actually proving that a key was compromised
and that funds were stolen um and when is it like too late you know like my what my concern is
that nothing happens until there's a provable attack that happens on bitcoin and then
we're going to all panic and go oh shit okay let's like grab whatever bip is nearby on the
shelf and we're going to slap that on there and then there's going to be like a mad dash for the
exit where like everybody's like rushing to now upgrade their money so that they're like moving
funds into like some sort of post quantum address and that's just going to be like a really messy
panicky transition versus like a nice smooth you know you know let's like do this fairly
if we if we were to just like start making this transition a lot earlier not needing some sort of
like disaster scenario to get our asses in gear like that that's my worry what is it going to take
for like bitcoin to start making this transition i was i'm working on a piece like i started
researching some stuff last night. I'm going to write it out this weekend, but I really do think
we're at a place now where people's decision-making is now, like if this whole narrative
is the truth type of world we live in, it feels like it is, it does seem like people have stopped
separating people and facts and
vibes from what's actually important.
If that makes any sense.
It's almost like it's,
I need to write it out,
but it's almost like it's trying to,
people are subjecting themselves
to this narrative and all this stuff,
but are failing to realize that,
like, the most important thing is,
like, Bitcoin keeps going.
I'm not saying that's happening.
I'm just saying, like, there's some people on the other side of this that are just, like, they don't even want to look at that.
They don't even want to talk about it.
They don't even want to, like, they can't step outside themselves to see, like, to assess it, like, rigorously with, like, reason and stuff like that.
That's kind of my whole thing.
It's just I'm just surprised that a lot of people aren't even, like, taking it seriously enough to, like, reason through some of the probabilities.
Yeah.
How do you wake people up, Carr?
I don't know.
How do you go, like, wake up sheeple?
I don't know.
I would be curious.
So when they do this stuff, Topher, are they using, like,
like, are they using AI to, like, not to write this, obviously,
or maybe they are, I don't know, but, like,
I would imagine they have access to AI to, like, figure out.
This is why we're seeing a lot of this, like.
oh they're using AI to make what technological breakthroughs yeah oh absolutely okay absolutely
they're doing I was curious about that like because we've seen like a couple of these
behind closed doors and then get released later yeah yeah it's pretty crazy to see
yeah I mean
you know I've seen whispers
people post stuff online where it's like hey I've been like working with
Claude or Codex and putting together
like different math proofs and like solving like these like complex
problems doing like combinations of like humans
and AIs where they'll like sort of like formulate
ways to
figure out these tough problems
in mathematics
and cryptography
and then figure out
some sort of solution
and then have other
researchers just
shit test it basically.
I feel like
AI is accelerating that because
you can research
things so much more
quickly and the
AI, it's domain knowledge is so massive.
It just has this understanding of everything.
Yeah, so there's just crazy things happening in math, chemistry, biology, material science.
There's all these crazy advances that are happening.
It's got to be happening in quantum, too.
But yeah.
I also think, too, I think the other really interesting thing that I've seen over and over is they're like,
oh but they won't attack bitcoin they'll attack all these other structures that the government
controls and they're like but the one thing the government doesn't control is bitcoin and they're
like oh but they're not going to attack that i'm like that's just dumb that's like saying like the
whole neighbor thing it's like oh i'm i'm okay because i'm friends with them it's like no dude
eventually eventually he's going to come after you too i don't i just don't believe that i think
that's just dumb thinking like that the government won't attack bitcoin once they have quantum
figured out uh i mean why i mean why not i i feel like it's a it's like the first thing to get
people's attention well so like there's this thing where um you'll have these insiders that know
something whether it's like in a big company or in government and so they know something that the
public doesn't and so they'll go on polymarket and they'll like place these bets and you know
then the, then X happens and then they cash out and they make a bunch of money.
And it's like, well,
were they just really lucky in predicting that X would happen or did they have
like insider knowledge? And so, you know, a quantum attack on Bitcoin,
it's not just like about stealing money from Bitcoin, a Bitcoiner.
It's more like, well,
you're going to cause this mass panic in the market.
And then that movement itself is an asymmetry you can make money on,
like tons of money on.
Yeah.
So I would think of it like what is the dollar sign value on doing a quantum attack on Bitcoin from that perspective, like moving the market itself?
It's got to be a lot of dollar signs.
I will say if the government's listening right now and they're thinking about attacking Bitcoin, go after Ethereum first.
Go after some of these other poop coins first.
and then and then that way we get the we get the jump on it that's all i would ask yeah do
even like argue about this thing i'm waiting for you right there just go attack do you think
ethbros argue about like this quantum stuff no because this is this is like because they can just
print more right like i feel like with bitcoiners we're a little bit more serious about it or it
should be but not everybody is i would just advocate let's go after ethereum first let's
go after some of these other shit coins let's like if you have a quantum computer don't go after
Bitcoin. That's all the money
is. Yeah, I know.
I'm saying
like
yeah. Anyways.
Yeah, that's the quantum thing
this week. Kian, do you have
any other thoughts on it? Yeah, I'm good.
Okay. Kian's done
with the quantum
quantum fud.
People were talking about it, so I was like,
let's mention someone
who I would listen to
the guy who I've been paying attention to
around the quantum stuff.
I don't get it all.
But I want...
That's how I keep track, more or less,
is by listening to that guy.
The Scott Anderson guy.
Yeah.
Check it out.
Scott Anderson.
ScottEarson.blog
Yeah.
I know Toby's been playing with some of this stuff,
or he was telling me it was, so...
He said it's quiet, though.
I've said it twice, but they already know now.
But anyway, Topher, keep me in the loop.
Keep us in the loop.
Anyways, cool stuff.
We're going to jump into Keon's final story this week.
It was, what problems exist when intelligence is free?
This is from Roy, the Holograph Universe.
650 comments.
Keon, what's this?
Yeah, I just thought this was an interesting question.
or it led me to an interesting conclusion
that I didn't really have before,
which was that I think we all assume
that when we have infinite intelligence
and it's free and abundant and ubiquitous
that all of our problems are solved.
And I think that's probably wrong.
I think intelligence is a serious bottleneck for us right now,
but I would guess that once intelligence is solved,
We'll find another bottleneck shortly after.
And I came to this conclusion after I was, I think I was asked on a Saturday,
and I was talking to Space Ted, and Space Ted was like,
there was some anecdote where a group of people were asked,
what is the meaning of life?
And they said food.
And that's because food was the main problem,
like scarcity of food was the main problem that they were facing.
And so, like, all of their life was reduced to attempting to acquire more food.
And I think that's kind of the situation that we're in right now.
But rather than food, it's intelligence.
And so we're, like, constrained around intelligence.
We see that as, like, our main bottleneck to getting kind of what we want
or having the life that we want.
And we have to spend all this time exercising our own intelligence.
and anyway, that was kind of,
that's kind of,
so I don't have an answer
of what exact problem will exist
because I think I'm too blinded
by our need for more intelligence
to come up with that answer,
but I would guess there definitely
are other things on the side of,
or other problems on the other side
of free intelligence.
Yeah, I think the biggest
interesting thing about this is like,
You know, when you have, like you said, it was like a free intelligence thing.
I think the only other thing to work on at that point is, like, virtues and your capacity to love.
And I think that's, to me, it's probably more of a chance now to be a well-rounded person.
I mean, that sounds kind of hokey, but it's kind of like, yeah, kind of like you said,
in a world where intelligence is free
and you're never going to be satisfied
because you're going to have that thirst.
The only thing to work on outside of that
is all these other things
that you could only get by things that aren't free, right?
Yeah.
Perhaps at an individual level,
there'll still be a problem of being happy,
feeling good about yourself.
that kind of ethical, moral
problem still exists.
Yeah, the interior life, yeah.
It's like the stuff that
intelligence can't solve.
Yeah, I think that beyond that
I think there are exterior problems that
intelligence also won't be able to solve.
And it's just
really hard to see that until we
run into them.
Because it's not like the hunter-gatherers
would have said that
centered their lives around food and were mostly limited by food ever anticipated that after they
had all this food, they would approach a period of time where they needed to build massive 9.2
gigawatt data centers that cost $500 billion using money from multiple nations harvested by taxes
around the world so that they construct an intelligence
to begin solving problems for them.
I don't think they would have.
Like, they can't predict that.
And so I think we'll see.
Like, there will be a version of that for modern peoples.
Yeah, but, like, if you, you know, take an alternative approach to that,
like, a lot of the things that we got early on back then was through love, right?
It was, like, through love of a neighbor.
that led to community love of another woman that led to more children further prospering generations
and and yeah i think now we're kind of getting to a point where people are losing sight of love and
and what that brings into the world and um it's it seems more i mean yeah it seems just a little
more greedy out there than used to um and uh makes you wonder like how that's going to play out
at least for me that's what i'm wondering it's like okay cool like let's go down this path and
see how that plays out but it's um that's why it's worrisome i would say it's because it's not
coming from a place of love that's uh building things up yeah i could see i could see problems
like that i mean you know maybe the problem is once you know once intelligence is free there's
you know humans go extinct uh um and they're you know these interior human problems aren't really
much of a problem but just thinking about it more from like a technology as the protagonist
independent of humans what problem does technology face or progress face that was initiated by humans
what does it face i think yeah i think technology is like the lack of a human involvement is probably
the biggest problem it faces but i think until it and i think maybe like the robots will figure
that out and then we'll be extinct i mean that's kind of i mean they're gonna i mean but see that
kind of goes into kind of what like all these big AI guys talk about around like
where this is headed and why they're so nervous about it. I don't know. Anon said
something because one problem is that intelligence will be more free for some
than for others. We don't all have vast reserves of oil or nuclear power stations
with which to power the intelligence. Also there is will be the problem of evil
people with lots of money combining it with robotics to form enormous armies.
where all soldiers are going to connect to each other
as well as a super brain
that will lead other states to do the same
in order to be able to defend themselves,
which then leads to states with the power
to deploy vast robotic armies on their own
or stepping into the matrix,
or if they step out of the matrix.
Yeah, I think it's fair.
I think it won't be absolutely free.
Intelligence won't be absolutely free.
But if it's super desirable,
and I think unlike something like nuclear weapons,
it can't be hoarded and controlled as easily.
I would guess that there will be,
the intelligence will be widely dispersed enough
that large groups of people,
should they want to rise up against a central authority,
might not, but shouldn't,
I don't imagine they'll have a hard time
relative to more traditional weaponry or more kinetic weaponry.
Yeah, then Dan posted a link to his article that he wrote last month,
which I think we covered if I remember correctly.
It's interesting.
I'm here for it every week.
Let's go back to...
yeah, let's go to my top stories this week.
The first one is the privacy attacks on lightning you need to know about.
This is from Sopratic.
He said that blinded paths are a real improvement.
They're not a magic shield.
Don't let anyone tell you they make your node untraceable.
Here are the actual attacks to keep in mind.
And then he said the CLTV correlation, graph analysis on small nodes,
payment probing, introduction, and node visibility.
And then we got some spicy comments here from Darth.
Kian, do you have any thoughts on this?
No, I mean, Lightning privacy isn't perfect.
I mean, most systems, if you analyze them,
they always have some gap between what would be ideal,
like zero information leak or whatever.
And so Lightning has some exposed privacy edges that we tend to enumerate over time
and try to knock them off one by one.
And these are definitely some of them.
It looks like you shared the route blinding attack analysis that TBAS and Rusty put together here.
What is route blinding?
Blinding.
Oh, is this the onion thing?
Interesting.
Cool.
Well, it looks like they're working on it.
That's always good to see, right?
Yes.
I think it'll be more private over time.
It's definitely private now if you know how to do it from what the guy's filming in the lab.
Certainly for paying.
Pay or privacy is great.
I think these are, I think Supratic is most, some of these are enumerating issues that primarily reside on the receiver side.
I did try the Lex app.
I did download it.
Where is it at?
The Lex one?
Yeah, I downloaded that one.
I could not connect to now.
Try again later.
I'll find it.
Never mind.
It not working It was working last week Anyways Did you get a channel open with them Not yet It a nice wallet
I think it's a great competitor to something like Phoenix, I think,
that really hasn't had real mobile competition in a long time.
At least a solution that doesn't use swaps,
like Breeze or some of these Spark wallets.
Yeah.
Yeah, and then Darth had a question back to him.
He said, who's going to attack me and for what?
Darth said, yes, blinded paths are a good improvement,
but I will challenge you to trace my LN payments if you can.
Yeah, he goes, in my humble opinion,
it's more important to run a Lightning node
than just a simple BTC core or NONTS or whatever other one node.
Yeah, there you go.
Trevor, you got any thoughts on privacy attacks on Lightning?
On Lightning?
Yeah.
Any of those stand out?
I mean, these have been well known for a while.
But, yeah, they're important.
Cool.
Because, yeah, there's this concept that lighting is private.
But there are ways that you can be de-anonymized.
So it's a good thing to know.
there you go
we're going to jump into
my last top story this week
this was from Need Creations
he posted
where are you sitting
and then he posted
The Last Supper
painting by Leonardo da Vinci
Keon
do you know what this painting is about
I think this is a supper that Jesus
had with his apostles before
he was murdered?
Yeah, so this actually,
because he puts here, like, where are you sitting?
This is actually not them just like eating
supper. This is when Jesus announced
to them that one of them was going to
betray him. And so
it's interesting to see
everybody's
kind of asking questions like, who?
This is probably like John right here.
Apostle John.
Yeah.
I guess they didn't have razors yet.
Where are you sitting, Keon?
I'm probably not.
I'm probably not sitting.
I might be standing.
I don't know if they have standing desks yet back then,
but maybe I'd use one of those.
so I'm probably
not that special to be in there but
definitely
listening
I want to share these because I thought this was cool because today's
Good Friday and
this is what's happening around the
world on this special
day
there's the Pope there
carrying the cross which is a big thing
because
I think the past two haven't done that
people here
Then we have other people redoing like reenactments of the crucifixion
And people here. I don't know where that's at. That's like that New York or Brooklyn
Yeah
We have
People here, oh man, they're just coming up everywhere more people here. These are like I think this is
in India, yeah
We have this lady here.
She's like really crying.
Then we have some more stuff here.
That was on, that's in Germany.
Everybody's doing the reenactments.
gosh you get so bloody to watch
yeah
I think the other one was
this one here this was from the Guardian
they also shared some photos
from around the world
a lot of reenactments
I was in Spain by accident
one year when they did Good Friday
and it was quite
there was a lot of festivities
it was quite fun actually
a lot of stuff in the streets
lots of
parade-y type
activities
yeah so um it was um pretty uh pretty out there really interesting to see
um good friday but yeah thanks to neat creations posting this um and uh yeah
we're gonna jump into all the uh oh we have one more we have actually two more
I forgot about these.
So, Pleb Poet released another zine this week.
This one's called Snacker New Zine, Making the Ephemeral Immortal.
Kian, did you take a look at this one yet?
It's not a zine.
This is actually talking about how there isn't a zine this week.
Okay.
This is just a one-year, it's like the one-year anniversary,
as Pleb Poet, I think, mentioned last episode,
or we mentioned about Pleb Poet last episode.
There won't be a zine this week.
and instead she is using it as a reflection
or to reflect on 52 issues
that we did over the last year
and maybe what she would like to do next
in terms of the zine
and that's what this post is about.
We're going to jump into the next one.
The next one that you had was a metal one
with Bob Burnett from Barefoot Mining.
This was an AMA.
Yeah, Bob Burnett came on for an AMA, and it was pretty awesome.
Lots of great questions and lots of great answers.
A lot of people asking about Bob's BIP-110 support.
I think they were the first.
Barefoot Mining was the first miner to signal for BIP-110, I think.
They got the first block in, so that was a conversation that came up quite a bit.
But lots of other questions in there.
from other, what do we have?
General questions about mining
because Bob is very, very quite knowledgeable.
He's relative to other miners that are mining at scale.
I feel like he's quite approachable, quite online,
and quite familiar with like Bitcoin culture
and involved in it.
Yeah, so lots of great stuff in here.
And I recommend reading through it
if you're interested in mining or how miners,
how some miners might be thinking about BIP-110 and,
and yeah, data and blocks and stuff.
Cool stuff.
That's all the stories that we have this week on Snacker News Live.
Let's go jump into the top cowboy segment.
The most popular segment.
and Bitcoin
it's the most
it's the cowboy
segment
here we go
ladies and gentlemen
yeah
looks like
a
total of
nothing has changed
at the top
cowboys there
so
yeah nothing has
I'm sure everyone is
very happy
that they tuned in
for that
tell you what
last week
when Brandon was on the show
I bet you
he's probably just like
he's like
wait wait a second
where's the
where's
Where's the top Cowboys?
And he's waiting for this whole time.
Brad, we're still watching it.
Yeah, he's probably been craving it.
Might have picked up a little addiction.
He's probably like, man, I'm just waiting for all show for this Cowboys segment.
So here you go, the top Cowboys.
Yeah, we should maybe put it like a flag in our YouTube video,
like where it starts to be able to just jump to it.
This is amazing.
Look at this.
All these Cowboys.
Giddy on up.
Yeah.
Wow.
Who's the last one?
I always like to see who the last one is.
It gets my weekend going.
Oh, no, yeah, this is the most exciting part.
This is the most exciting part.
Which stacker?
Who's the stacker, the last one?
My weekend really doesn't kick off until I see who the last one is.
Then I'm like, okay, weekend.
It's an important fact that I don't think most people are tracking.
Oh, it's Zeke this week.
Oh, man, can you believe it?
Crowd is going wild.
Can't believe it.
when people lost their hat like the longest hat that got lost we should do that yeah because
yeah i think tony georgio would have one of those you'll have to see it he raged out about
this is the top cowboys baby
All right.
That's that segment.
Tune in next week for more of that.
Oh, yeah.
More of that segment.
You're not going to believe who's last next week.
It'll be mostly the same people.
My weekend has started now.
Let's jump into the comments this week.
They get a little spicy.
Neekreation said, very interesting indeed.
I need more BitX, solo mining, exclamation point, exclamation point.
This was in regards to the Bitcoin mining two-block reorg.
What do you think about that, Keon?
Do you think we need more bid axes?
We have one.
Yeah, I think he's generally suggesting that decentralized mining is good.
Yes, I believe that we need more decentralized mining.
How many bid axes do you have, Keon?
I have zero.
Oh.
You want one?
I don't have one because I don't want to set it up.
You just don't want to have a bid axe there.
How can I spice it up?
I don't have to do anything.
Just plug it in.
Yeah, more or less I plug it in.
Yeah, maybe I have to write my Bitcoin address in a terminal or something.
That would be it.
I just don't want to have to think about it.
Yeah, the other one's right over there.
I don't think about it.
Well, you guys are doing the work for me.
We all have our different roles in society, our different jobs.
our tasks and i already got plenty of jobs i'm doing now yeah but if i had the free time road
to become a big action me too i have so many jobs even my agent has jobs
isn't that a cool thing to say no it's not if not biff 110 then what is the solution for clogging
the network with spam that can't be deleted from full archival nodes gary says when we were talking
talking about the layman's guy at the BIP110.
Topher, I go to you.
What is clogging the network exactly?
Can we define that?
Is it, you can't get your transaction through?
Is it transaction fees?
I feel like every time I use OnChain,
it goes pretty through, baby.
Right through there.
It's pretty good.
So I don't know.
I don't know much about this stuff, to be honest.
Yeah, I don't know.
I don't know if Gary's,
I don't know if Gary's actually using Bitcoin or is just participating in conversations on social media.
It's kind of repeating something they've heard.
But there have been periods of time, though, that the network has been clogged with spam,
where there's been quite a bit of congestion on chain as a result of some of the ordinal stuff.
But it's been a long time since then.
and I think the more important thing is like what
what is this like if I
use an analogy or like a similar situation
like what is the solution to global warming
if it's not pancakes like that's kind of like the
like because that's kind of what he's saying is that like you make pancakes outside
well it's like baked in his question is the assumption that BIP 110 solves
clogging the network with spam.
And most of us don't support it
because it doesn't solve the problem.
And similarly, pancakes don't solve global warming.
So, Gary, if you can tell me
how pancakes don't solve global warming,
I'll tell you maybe how BIP-110
doesn't solve global warming.
Or if you can tell me what the solution is
to global warming,
then I'll believe that pancakes don't solve it.
is more or less what he's asking.
He's like, you need to come up with a solution
to prove to me that pancakes don't solve spam on Bitcoin.
Yeah.
I would add to that that people are complaining
that the ice caps are melting and that we're all going to drown.
Yes.
Yet everybody's beachfront property is still the same.
Like nobody's had to run away from the coast.
Nothing's changed.
Anything, the water's receding.
What did you say, Ted?
You have a beachfront?
Oh.
He said that global warming is happening.
In Massachusetts?
No, but he's saying he has more beachfront.
He has more beachfront now because of the global warming.
See, it helped two people, Al Gore and Ted.
yeah
the other one was
most of us can't afford the flagships
exclamation point at least they have
more than one brand of hardware exclamation point
this is from Kyle Dean Daly
on the Graphene OS thing
yeah it seems like he believed some of the
wrong things that we said in the video
and feels pretty great
that Graphene will have
more than one hardware provider
in the future which they won't
that's what we thought they were saying
in that video.
I mean, you could buy, like, how much is a Pixel 3?
They're like $150 on Amazon.
If they're still there, they're probably gone now.
Also, with, like, AI, I feel like some chad
can just go out there and, like, hack a fork of graphene
to run on, like, a super cheap smartphone or something.
Yeah, I would say, Kyle, do some AI stuff, maybe?
Yeah.
Fork your graphene.
Send cloth to the code mines.
Yeah.
But if they lose all the security updates and everything,
that's the only problem with all that stuff.
That would be cool to like a graphing fork,
like a super cheap fund, $20 Walmart fund.
Yeah.
The bank said stay in your weight.
I don't know.
I feel like he was, what is that?
We were talking about a Zempick.
No, we were talking about a Zempification of the economy.
Yeah, but the bank is telling a joke.
I get it.
Okay, that makes sense.
Cool.
And then the other one was from RB Ginger.
Gin Ninja?
G Ninja.
I did read that as Ginger.
Oh, Ginger.
It's like a ginger nature.
That's what I thought.
They said, Peter Thiel is or is connected to the Antichrist!
Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.
It definitely vacationers at Davos, in quotes, together if he's not himself!
Exclamation point.
He ought to go to you.
for what do you think
what do you think about that comment
I can't read it but
it sounds kind of just
there's a lot
there it goes right there
that's what he said right there
Davos is kind of weird
I didn't see him in Davos this year but I saw
everybody else
okay saying antichrist visit
Davos and they vacation there
and Peter Thiel
is an antichrist or is connected to them
I don't really
I don't really know who's the Antichrist.
So I can't say whether that is true or not.
That is kind of what I have to say about it.
Thanks for the question.
How would you define the Antichrist?
How would I define the Antichrist?
Somebody who's not with Christ, the Antichrist.
So there's like 50% of the population is the Antichrist?
Probably, yeah, at least 50%.
Dying.
I mean, that's how I would define it, but I don't know if that's like, if that's like accurate, but I mean, that's how I would define it.
Cool.
But yeah, in that kind of definition, Peter Teal's not, because from what I know, he's a subsect of Christianity.
And then I got, I'm just what he said, if you zap me 100K sats on SN, you get a cowboy hat.
Wait a second, what does that mean?
It's a nice little scammer.
Oh, I see what you're saying.
That's how you get a cowboy hat.
Is that how you get a cowboy hat?
Is he wrong?
I cannot.
Do you know how to get a cowboy on Stacker News?
Confirm or deny.
You don't even know, right?
I thought it was just a ghost.
You do some sort of activity on Stacker News.
You literally have people in Blah Blah Blah
that don't even know how to get a cowboy hat.
That's how you know.
It's an Easter egg.
Every time I interact with Stacker News, I get a hat.
Oh, you do?
Okay.
I get loose hats like...
All the daily.
Yeah, that's true.
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There you go.
And that's all we got for this week's episode of Stackered News Live.
Keon, what are you doing this weekend?
I don't think I'm doing anything.
Last I checked, I'll have to confirm with all the people that like to, you know,
all the activities that I usually pick from.
I'm not sure I'm not doing any of those.
yeah I'm not doing anything
how about you what are you doing Cara
I think today still you know
kind of taking it in you know it's good
Friday so it's good to
you know think about Jesus
and all that stuff and then tomorrow
Easter vigil is happening
tomorrow so I'll go to that and then
Sundays
yeah Sunday's the day so I
think yeah it's just gonna be a full weekend of like
church stuff
I'm looking forward to that cake tomorrow
at the vigil.
That should be fun.
What cake do they serve, usually?
So, last year,
me and Juan went to the Easter Vigil together,
and, dude, they had free cake and punch at the end.
Free cake and punch?
And your boys got invited.
Boom.
What kind of cake?
It was, like, all sorts of kinds.
I think there's, like, two different kinds.
I thought you didn't like cake.
I thought we learned that on your birthday
that you don't like cake.
I don't like chocolate cake.
Interesting.
Do you like chocolate?
You said your favorite ice cream is Rocky Road.
But that's not chocolate cake.
But it is chocolate ice cream.
So you like chocolate.
You like cake.
It's Dutch chocolate.
But you don't like them together.
What's the difference between Dutch chocolate and other chocolates?
Do you know?
Dutch.
It's made by white people?
Whoa, whoa.
I'm like trying to.
Whoa, calm down.
You don't have like Mexican chocolate ever?
Oh, yeah, we do.
It's called cacao.
Well, it's the same.
I don't know.
Is it the same?
Is Mexican chocolate cacao?
Or is that something else?
It is.
It's all cacao.
Yeah, it's cacao, right?
But what's the, because mola also has chocolate too, and I love mola.
It's also cacao.
I don't know exactly, but I like cacao.
But only if it's called Dutch.
It's good, though.
Remember those cacao drinks that we had?
Those are good, dude.
After one, I was done, dude.
Me and Oliver were like, done.
We were like, what?
Just spaced out.
That was fun.
You guys took drugs?
No, so they make like cacao, but they turn it into like a, like a, like a, what do you
call it?
Like a, not a beer, but it's like a, it's like a, it's like a spiked drink, right?
It's like, yeah, it's like a liqueur thing.
It's good, dude.
It's so good.
I kind of want one right now.
It's like Baba tea, but for like cacao.
That's the best way.
It tastes like Baba tea, but like good.
Is that the same thing as Boba tea?
Yeah, same thing.
Baba.
It's like a drink in Star Wars.
Baba tea.
What do you get when you're a bounty hunter?
Is it called bubble tea?
Bubble tea?
Boba.
Oh, well, that's dumb.
That's how you pronounce it, I guess.
I agree, it's spelled weird.
I thought it was called Baba.
I thought you said Baba.
Baba tea.
Baba tea would be a great name for it.
That's what I always do for Baba tea.
Anyways, Tover, what are you doing this weekend?
Eating fish tacos.
Oh, wow.
Did you catch a fish or did you go to the fish market and then?
No, I leave all that up to other people.
Oh, that should be fun.
Man, that's going to be fun.
Looking forward to that.
Cool stuff.
Well, stackers, have yourself a great weekend.
Have a great Easter weekend.
And we'll see you back here next week with some whole new stories.
How about that?
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