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Hey everybody, welcome back.

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Welcome back to Pantom Power Music. This is the artist hour.

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We've got a cool one lined up for you guys tonight.

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We've got two artists, Anzli Castello and just Loud.

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And they are going to be sharing the stage.

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Up in Minneapolis on the 21st of December at First Avenue

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in what is going to be the first noster streamed and RSS streamed live concert coming up.

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It's going to be really cool. There's a lot of people working behind the scenes at it.

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So what that means is for those of you guys who are in the noster world and love zap.stream

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etc. You're going to be able to see the show there and boost some sats.

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But you're also going to be able to see it on such things as Curio Cast or Pod fans,

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Podcast Guru, Podverse. I believe fountain as well.

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And again, send some sats.

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So this is going to be a live streamed concert with these two Bitcoin artists coming up at the end of December.

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And I thought it'd be fun to get them together to talk about their music as well as talk about Bitcoin.

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It's a really cool interview. One of the most striking things about it is just Loud used to be on a major label.

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And he has over 10 million streams on Spotify. And he has made $0.0.

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And then you've got Anzli Castello who joined in the Bitcoin world in July. And she's made about $1,500.

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$1,500 in the Bitcoin world versus 10 million streams on Spotify and nothing.

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And just Loud has recently jumped into the Bitcoin world, the RSS world, the noster world.

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And it's looking to make some headway.

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So really excited to have him on board, really excited that these two are going to be sharing the bill.

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And we're going to be talking about all of that. But before we do, let's check out a song from Big Loud called "Schrooms" and then we'll get to the interview.

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Let's check it out.

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I think any services as an artist that keeps going

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to keep pushing tonight, something greater,

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enough you had you know.

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- That's a great opportunity to bring Ainsley back in

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on this first of all, Ainsley.

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Thank you for sitting along and listening to that

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while my jaw was on the floor for the last 10 to 10.

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- Oh my God, you're not alone.

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So was mine.

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I've, for anyone listening,

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we're all, like we're on all in a little Zoom

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I've just been muted the whole time,

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but I'm just like, what?

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I mean, I just want to say before like you asked me

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some questions.

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I like, just loud, I massively respected you from like

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the first note that I heard when I like clicked

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on your Spotify profile.

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Now hearing your story like that has increased 10 fold.

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Like what?

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Just, yeah, like you're such an inspiration, such an artist

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and like, I am, God, I'm so excited to share

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at the stage with you seriously.

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- Well, yeah, it'll, it'll be a fun show to see how you got this.

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See how your two styles mix up.

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Ainsley, talk about, 'cause you've been on Wabelake now

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for a couple months, right?

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And just loud's been on there for about a month.

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What, like when you hear about what he was just saying

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with respect to value from value and everything,

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like what's your experience?

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Like how do you respond to that?

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And the response that you've gotten from Wabelake?

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- Yeah, I mean, Wabelake is just so very cool

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and very revolutionary.

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So like very long story short,

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'cause I know that we've got some other things to talk about,

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but so I got on the Wabelake and July or August of this year.

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It's just stupid, crazy, funny story.

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So my dad's a bit of a Bitcoin, like crypto enthusiast

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and who would have thought that there's a place

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I didn't honestly know that,

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but one week my dad was down there at some lightning summit,

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of a company called Wabelake.

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And so my dad being my dad makes friends

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like everywhere he goes and he met Sam Means

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who was the owner and the creator of Wabelake.

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And so one day after my mom and I,

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we went in and we saw the demo,

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we were kinda just like, you know what, this is cool.

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Like I've got nothing to lose.

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So we kinda just put our music,

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we all, we put my music up

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and it just kind of exploded in this new

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kind of Bitcoin Web 3 world and it's just really cool.

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Are you experiencing that value from value vibe

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that just loud is talking about?

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I mean like the interaction from the fans,

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from the Bitcoin, from the psychoshis, I guess.

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- Absolutely. - Come straight to you.

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I mean, I think the really, really cool thing

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about Wabelake and this value for value community

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is that listeners know exactly where their money is going.

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Their money is going directly to the artists who,

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they're listening to instead of like if,

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one of the things that I've kind of learned to talk about

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in this kind of whole new experience is that,

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if you're a listener, if you're just a fan

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and you're listening on Spotify or Apple Music

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and you love a song, there's no direct way to pay that artist

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to show them how much you appreciate them,

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how much you love that song, you pay Spotify,

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which then goes through a million gatekeepers

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and that however much money a month subscription gets

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diluted down even further and so then that all comes back

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to the artists like a year later in pennies

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and so that's absolutely not the case with Wabelake

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and the podcasting to the auto world.

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Like there is a huge community of people here who believe

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that artists should be paid and should be able to make a living

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off of the art that they are creating

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and that they are giving to the world for basically free.

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That's what we've been doing forever

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and I'm sure, Just Cloud, like you probably had moments

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like that where you felt like just on Spotify or Apple Music

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or in the traditional music industry,

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it feels like you're giving away your music for free

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and you're not really seeing anything back and so.

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There is really a huge community here who believes

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in uplifting artists and paying them with the worth.

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- Yeah, Just Cloud, you had 10 million

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or you've had 10 million streams on electrified, right?

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- 10 million.

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- 10 million.

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Now the conventional wisdom or what has heard around Nashville

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is that it would be, like anywhere from 1500

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How much, if you don't want to answer this question,

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I absolutely respect it.

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And I know that, but how much revenue

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did you see from 10 million streams?

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- What revenue?

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- There's your answer.

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- Good million stream, what revenue?

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- You got nothing.

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- Nothing?

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- And the only thing that you get is the,

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I guess the false fifth self, oh my God, I got to million streams

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and hey, I'm gonna pay no more, nothing, you know?

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- Well, and it's interesting we're having this discussion

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on the day that everybody starts putting out

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their Spotify stats, right?

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Like, I don't know if you started to see it in email

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and on the socials today, but, you know,

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just about every independent artist that is trying

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like, this year I had 20 million streams and blah, blah, blah, blah,

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800 listeners and 45 countries and three sons.

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okay, great, you had congrats,

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'cause that's how hard to get 10 million streams,

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5 million streams, 20 million streams.

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- It's a huge accomplishment.

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- Yeah.

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But nothing from nothing is nothing.

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You know?

281
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- Absolutely.

282
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- And, you know, if those guys, you know,

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and what excites me about this

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and what I've been talking about it on my podcasts,

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and when I listen to Adam Curry,

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it aims like maybe you could talk about this a little bit,

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'cause I think you've had more interaction with him,

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but like if all of that energy was translated over

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into the podcasting world, into the RSS world,

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where we're starting to see all these music broadcasts pop up.

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And the guys from the podcasting 2.0 index

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have been, you know, putting together the,

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not only the technology to do this,

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but the pushes to get these songs out there

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so that everybody knows, oh, who's this,

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who's this dude just loud that dropped this song "True"

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and what's this latest song from "Ansley," right?

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Like, if it wasn't, I mean,

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getting it in the big coin space is one thing,

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but if it wasn't for Adam Curry and podcasting,

301
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Ainsley, you probably, like, would you have had the same success?

302
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Would you have been getting the same amount of saps in?

303
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- Oh my gosh, if it weren't for Adam

304
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and everyone on the podcasting 2.0 index,

305
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2.0 network, I don't think I, like, would have had,

306
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anywhere near the same reaction as I've had in this world.

307
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You know, Adam, he's really one of those people

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who's leading the charge in this, in this new space.

309
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- Yeah.

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- And this, this RSS tech really allows, like,

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the decentralized management of contact

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to go directly to the creator

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through the use of digital currency, which is Bitcoin,

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but besides just uploading my music onto Wave Lake,

315
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because I've been able to upload it

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to all of these other platforms, like podverse and pod bins,

317
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that's allowed me to get introduced to,

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again, this community of people who really believe

319
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that artists should be paid for the work that they produce.

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But, no, my gosh, like, if it weren't for Adam

321
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and all these other guys who are really so passionate

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about this technology and passionate that artists

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should be able to make a living,

324
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like, I don't think I would have had anywhere near

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the same response that I'd got.

326
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And one thing that I thought was interesting,

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just to, like, backtrack for a second,

328
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when we were talking about how big an accomplishment it is

329
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to get 10 million streams, it is.

330
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It's a huge accomplishment.

331
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But the one thing that, like, kind of struck my mind

332
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:34,600
when we were talking about that was,

333
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there's almost a little bit of, like,

334
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a double standard in the music industry,

335
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when something like that happened to you reach a milestone,

336
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like that, right?

337
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Where it's like, oh, the industry expects you to be happy

338
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and excited about, oh, like, I've reached this big milestone,

339
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but at the same time, like, you're getting screwed over

340
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by not seeing any of that revenue, you're not

341
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being able to live off of that big accomplishment,

342
00:32:53,800 --> 00:32:56,960
yet, you're still feeling this pressure to be happy.

343
00:32:56,960 --> 00:32:58,960
And, oh, my gosh, I'm so grateful for this,

344
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and at least I've gotten this thing, like, that was just,

345
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that double standard, kind of, just popped out to me

346
00:33:03,840 --> 00:33:06,160
as Jesslotte, I was listening to your story.

347
00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:07,520
So, yeah.

348
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,040
- Yeah.

349
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I'm really, I mean,

350
00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:16,960
you've had, we've blogged about you over here in the past,

351
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and you've obviously kind of, you know,

352
00:33:20,680 --> 00:33:23,440
probably better term, you've kind of been the darling

353
00:33:23,440 --> 00:33:28,440
of the Bitcoin music 2.0 RSS world,

354
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but I do want to call it.

355
00:33:31,000 --> 00:33:37,080
It'll be interesting to see how quickly this thing grows.

356
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:41,480
I mean, the movement needs quality artists,

357
00:33:41,480 --> 00:33:44,120
which is one of the reasons why I'm thrilled

358
00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:46,520
that Jesslotte is in there.

359
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:50,120
Dude, I can't wait for you to start dropping

360
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,120
your most recent, you know, the next pieces

361
00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,800
of your catalog in there, and for people to get it.

362
00:33:57,800 --> 00:33:58,800
- It's coming.

363
00:33:58,800 --> 00:33:59,800
- Good.

364
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:00,640
I love it, Max.

365
00:34:00,640 --> 00:34:01,520
- Max coming.

366
00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:02,360
I love it.

367
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:03,200
- Yeah.

368
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,560
- Are the next songs that are coming up,

369
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,960
are they as heavy as shrooms, or what are they,

370
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,480
what are you going to get musically next?

371
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:14,600
What journey are you going to take us on, sir?

372
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:19,600
- I will tell you that I wrote a song,

373
00:34:19,600 --> 00:34:24,480
finishing up a drum now, it's called Prisoner of Love,

374
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:26,080
and let's just say,

375
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:31,760
Rebel Yellow, Billy Idol, Modern Day Version,

376
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,960
I'm in that band at the moment,

377
00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:39,800
and I'll have a song called Moon Child that I wrote

378
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:43,280
a few years ago, and I finally finished nicknick

379
00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,280
about to put that out as well.

380
00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:49,200
I have 9,000 songs, so it's gonna be fun.

381
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,720
- Oh my god.

382
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:52,280
- Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

383
00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:53,120
- 9,000?

384
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,200
- 9,000.

385
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- 9,000.

386
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,240
- I can't even handle that.

387
00:34:59,240 --> 00:35:00,080
Oh my god.

388
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,080
- Yes.

389
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:02,320
- Yeah.

390
00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:07,320
So, no matter what, I can honestly just upload

391
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:13,240
and every day, I think me and my business partner,

392
00:35:13,240 --> 00:35:14,520
who is Adam?

393
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:16,920
It's something good about the name Adam.

394
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,640
It's Adam's personal Adam as well.

395
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,680
It's, yeah, it's like we get the math,

396
00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:26,080
and it's like I think really released a song

397
00:35:26,080 --> 00:35:27,760
just every day for the rest of my life,

398
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,760
and my life's gonna take life, and yeah.

399
00:35:30,760 --> 00:35:32,240
(laughing)

400
00:35:32,240 --> 00:35:35,240
And then some, like when you said 9,000 songs immediately,

401
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:36,760
I thought of Prince's discography,

402
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:39,760
and how like he can, I don't remember what the statistic was,

403
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,640
but I saw some more that like he can, his,

404
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,200
oh, what's the word I'm looking for?

405
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:48,240
He can release like another album for the rest of,

406
00:35:48,240 --> 00:35:51,240
like another album a year for like another hundred years,

407
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:52,680
because he wrote that much music.

408
00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,680
That's just so wild to me.

409
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:55,680
Wow.

410
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,400
- Yeah, I've heard the same thing.

411
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,320
You know, I don't even think I've read 9,000 pages

412
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,480
in my entire life.

413
00:36:02,240 --> 00:36:06,480
So for you to have written 9,000 songs.

414
00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:07,320
Damn.

415
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:08,160
- Yeah.

416
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:09,160
- Do you sleep?

417
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,040
(laughing)

418
00:36:11,040 --> 00:36:14,880
- You know, in these, I can tell you my trick,

419
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:18,680
I don't watch TV, and if I do watch TV,

420
00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,640
it like I love loopy and crollight bone.

421
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,680
So I'm not like, I don't have hobby,

422
00:36:24,680 --> 00:36:27,520
like, you know, because of my upbringing,

423
00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:29,840
we were super shell-sleeved.

424
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,040
So I do the same thing every day,

425
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:38,040
and melodies of me and we were talking about this earlier,

426
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,560
is like a blessing and a curse,

427
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,400
because no matter what anyone said,

428
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:47,880
I start writing a song in my head when people are talking,

429
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,760
and like, or if I read something,

430
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:53,800
or melodies come out of nowhere,

431
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:58,800
and it's not like, and I'm grateful for the gift,

432
00:36:59,720 --> 00:37:03,440
but it can be challenging, especially if I'm gonna

433
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,800
relate to it, because I can really take your music,

434
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:08,400
and I'm gonna always write about it.

435
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:12,320
So that's my only hobby, and that's the only thing

436
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:15,560
that I really do, is just like music and produce music all day.

437
00:37:15,560 --> 00:37:18,800
Like, in the time I wake up, time I go to sleep.

438
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,000
- Yeah. - Yes, I do.

439
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:24,120
- Well, Ainsley, what's, what's,

440
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,480
I mean, he's got a couple songs coming out.

441
00:37:27,880 --> 00:37:30,960
What's next coming up for you?

442
00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,000
- Yeah, I mean, I've been in a very,

443
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,800
like, just loud state of living this year.

444
00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:39,280
Since the beginning of this year, all I've been doing is just,

445
00:37:39,280 --> 00:37:41,880
in the studio, writing, writing, writing, you know,

446
00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,160
this is the first year that I haven't released anything,

447
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:45,480
which has been a little scary,

448
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,520
but, you know, I kinda had to let my,

449
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:50,280
my life catch up to my writing in some way.

450
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:52,480
So when January of this year, I was like,

451
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:54,320
you know what, I need to take a step back.

452
00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:56,760
I need to just write some music that I really love,

453
00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:57,600
that I'm really proud of.

454
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,520
And I was also finishing my degree this year.

455
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,120
I graduated from Berkeley College of Music in May.

456
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,120
- Nice.

457
00:38:03,120 --> 00:38:04,440
- Thank you.

458
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:07,720
But, yeah, so I've just been writing a lot of stuff

459
00:38:07,720 --> 00:38:09,080
and I'm really excited about this year.

460
00:38:09,080 --> 00:38:12,240
And so, now it's just kind of getting ready for this show

461
00:38:12,240 --> 00:38:14,880
that just loudened my half and less than a month, baby,

462
00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:15,720
which I'm so excited about.

463
00:38:15,720 --> 00:38:16,560
- Baby.

464
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,560
- Yeah, it's gonna be so awesome.

465
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,880
And then getting ready for releasing all these songs next year

466
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:24,760
and kind of learning how to live in tandem

467
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:27,280
with this new world and also keeping up

468
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,680
with the traditional music industry too.

469
00:38:29,680 --> 00:38:31,360
'Cause in some ways, you know, like, we can,

470
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:32,760
we can bag on as much as we want,

471
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,120
but we're all kind of beholden to it.

472
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,360
So it's been a little bit of a journey learning

473
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,480
how to walk in both worlds at the same time.

474
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,000
- Yeah, well, I'll tell you, like,

475
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,520
you guys really have a great opportunity

476
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:53,840
at your feet with Bitcoin and with all these different

477
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,600
podcasting apps that are out there.

478
00:38:56,600 --> 00:39:01,600
I mean, in all the different ways that you can monetize your music.

479
00:39:01,600 --> 00:39:05,760
Now, I mean, I'm in my 50s.

480
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,400
I'm an older guy, but, you know, 30 years ago,

481
00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:10,520
when I was paying away in LA, you know,

482
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:14,120
that we had the gatekeepers at the recording studios

483
00:39:14,120 --> 00:39:18,520
and the record companies that they're really pre-hibiting,

484
00:39:18,520 --> 00:39:21,280
you know, independence from really getting off the ground

485
00:39:21,280 --> 00:39:23,240
and going somewhere, but you guys,

486
00:39:23,240 --> 00:39:25,600
I mean, it's a blessing and a curse, you know,

487
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,720
I've talked about this on some of my podcasts.

488
00:39:27,720 --> 00:39:30,600
There's no barrier to entry into the industry.

489
00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,440
So somebody who only knows three chords

490
00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,000
and has a shitty voice, you know,

491
00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:37,560
can release songs all day long on Spotify

492
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:39,360
and you can't stop them, right?

493
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:42,360
I mean, that's, you know, but then,

494
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,400
but then again, the beauty of it is,

495
00:39:44,400 --> 00:39:47,360
okay, they're still releasing art, you know,

496
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,800
it's nice to be able to do things independently.

497
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:51,480
It's nice to not have the gatekeepers,

498
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:54,720
especially when the gatekeepers come with

499
00:39:54,720 --> 00:40:01,960
just horrible intentions, misaligned political motives,

500
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:06,280
bad hearts, you know, as we have heard tonight

501
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:11,040
from just loud story with respect to that label, President.

502
00:40:11,040 --> 00:40:15,040
But you guys have a unique opportunity in front of you

503
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:20,240
with websites like WaveLankard or Ellen Beads

504
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,920
or in all these, all the different podcasting apps,

505
00:40:22,920 --> 00:40:25,880
CurioCaster, PodFans, PodFanGuru, PodVers,

506
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:29,560
aside from just the staples that everybody goes to,

507
00:40:29,560 --> 00:40:31,360
the app and the apples and the Spotify,

508
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,600
which do not compensate, not only artists,

509
00:40:34,600 --> 00:40:37,360
but podcasters as well in the same fashion.

510
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,480
So you guys really have a unique opportunity

511
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:43,840
at your feet with the industry.

512
00:40:43,840 --> 00:40:46,520
And on top of the fact that both of you,

513
00:40:46,520 --> 00:40:49,040
I mean, you're pretty damn good songwriters too.

514
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,480
So kudos to both of you guys.

515
00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:52,920
- Thank you. - Thank you.

516
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:56,640
- Yeah, so how did this joint gig come about?

517
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,040
Like did your respective managers make this happen

518
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,880
or would you guys reach out behind

519
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:06,400
and find each other on the scenes on social media

520
00:41:06,400 --> 00:41:09,080
and decided to try and take over many applets for a night?

521
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:10,520
How did this whole thing come about?

522
00:41:10,520 --> 00:41:13,880
- Well, from my understanding,

523
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:17,200
so someone who we met in this whole new world,

524
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,920
his name is Mike Kylene, he's the CFO at First Avenue.

525
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:23,680
And my manager and I, we started talking to him a little bit

526
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,440
and then he was the kind of the one

527
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:28,560
who introduced this idea of what if we do a Bitcoin meetup night

528
00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:32,960
at First Avenue and he, when I was talking to him,

529
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:35,480
he was like, hey, I know this other really cool artist,

530
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:36,680
just loud.

531
00:41:36,680 --> 00:41:37,640
I think you guys would be like,

532
00:41:37,640 --> 00:41:40,160
you guys would be really cool on a bill together.

533
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,720
And so since then, that was the idea

534
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,520
just kind of came out a couple of months ago.

535
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,160
And so ever since then, we've kind of just been,

536
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:50,120
we've been in talks, we've been both kind of planning

537
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:51,880
and plotting and scheming our own sets.

538
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,000
And it's funny because today is actually the first time

539
00:41:54,000 --> 00:41:56,000
that Jess loud and I have actually physically been able

540
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:56,800
to talk to each other.

541
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,520
So it's really exciting.

542
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:02,080
- Right, but it feels like I've been only a long time

543
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,080
already as we, so.

544
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:05,680
- Absolutely, you're also Jess loud.

545
00:42:05,680 --> 00:42:07,760
We've been around the block a little bit.

546
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:08,960
- Exactly, exactly.

547
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:12,240
Shout out for Mike though, because Mike is,

548
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:16,000
Mike did introduce me, sir, her music and I'm like,

549
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:18,720
oh yeah, it's gonna be a hell of a show.

550
00:42:18,720 --> 00:42:19,880
It's gonna be a hell of a show.

551
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,280
And I'm honored that I'm gonna be sharing stages with you.

552
00:42:23,280 --> 00:42:25,360
- Oh my gosh, likewise, thank you so much.

553
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:27,120
Yeah, Mike, you're the MVP.

554
00:42:27,120 --> 00:42:27,960
We love you.

555
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:28,800
We're so excited.

556
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,800
- Hey, we love you.

557
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:30,800
(laughs)

558
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,720
- Yeah, this is, yeah, Mike's really known

559
00:42:33,720 --> 00:42:38,000
in the Bitcoin community and I know he's been pushing

560
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:38,880
for something like this.

561
00:42:38,880 --> 00:42:43,240
And I know that this is gonna be,

562
00:42:43,240 --> 00:42:48,240
like you guys are working on the live stream of this as well, right?

563
00:42:48,240 --> 00:42:50,560
Like I know that, I heard the first avenue

564
00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:53,800
was gonna be live streaming this so that people can send in

565
00:42:53,800 --> 00:42:57,440
Bitcoin while you guys are playing your set, is that correct?

566
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,440
- Yeah, absolutely.

567
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,120
So if I could, if I could kind of just like put in

568
00:43:01,120 --> 00:43:03,680
a few little tiny little bits of information here.

569
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,840
So on December 20th and 21st,

570
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:07,880
there are gonna be two shows that we're gonna be live streaming

571
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:11,440
on both Noster and the RSS to broadcast the shows

572
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,120
and these are gonna allow fans to send money during the show

573
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:18,480
instantaneously from all over the world with Sats and Bitcoin.

574
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,880
So just real quick, fans need, fans are gonna need

575
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:23,080
a specific app to do this.

576
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:24,640
For Noster, you'll need some special links

577
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:26,600
which you can find in the days leading up to the show

578
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,480
on my website at ainsleecostelo.com or on my Twitter

579
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:31,120
AinsleeMusic07.

580
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,040
And for RSS, you'll need a modern podcast app

581
00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:35,520
that also allows video.

582
00:43:35,520 --> 00:43:37,080
Right now I think there are three or so,

583
00:43:37,080 --> 00:43:41,080
so go grab one of these apps, which are podfans.fmpodcastgoo.io

584
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:43,080
or podverse.fm.

585
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:45,080
So, and if you head on over to me.

586
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:47,080
- You're okay, I'm very grateful.

587
00:43:47,080 --> 00:43:48,960
- So if you head on over to my website,

588
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,560
like you'll have all of the links there,

589
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:52,960
all of the resources that you need to support me

590
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:55,560
and just loud and the other artists who are gonna be performing

591
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:57,320
on both of these nights.

592
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:59,080
And just one other quick little thing,

593
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,560
you'll also wanna get yourself a teeny tiny little bit

594
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,360
of Bitcoin.

595
00:44:02,360 --> 00:44:04,920
I promise it'll be helpful and it will be painful.

596
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:07,680
Just grab Cash App and sign up right there on the app.

597
00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:09,800
You can buy your first bit of Bitcoin in minutes

598
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,840
and then out of the show, you can zap me

599
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:15,000
just loud onNoster within the podcast apps.

600
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:16,320
So it's gonna be really cool.

601
00:44:16,320 --> 00:44:18,400
These are, to my understanding,

602
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,920
some of the first value for value

603
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,880
and lightning enabled music events.

604
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,240
So I think they're gonna be so, so exciting.

605
00:44:24,240 --> 00:44:26,000
- Yeah, I think it's the first,

606
00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:29,080
what, I mean, I know some guys have done

607
00:44:29,080 --> 00:44:32,880
some lightning enabled live streams before,

608
00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:35,760
but I think what's unique about this one is that it's going

609
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:41,240
to be Noster and RSS at the same time.

610
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:46,240
Which we could have for all of you propeller heads

611
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:49,040
that are listening to tonight's broadcast.

612
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,160
You guys know as well as I do that,

613
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:57,280
we could have a whole show on Noster versus RSS.

614
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,600
Maybe we should have a Cage match show

615
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,880
on Noster versus RSS.

616
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:02,880
That'd be fun.

617
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520
There's probably like two guys who are laughing

618
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:06,640
at that comment right now.

619
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,480
And you guys, my guests, Ainsley and just loud,

620
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,440
you're like, what the hell did I do?

621
00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:20,440
Wow, well, you guys, thank you guys both for joining us.

622
00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:23,120
Again, I apologize for the technical delays

623
00:45:23,120 --> 00:45:25,920
at the start to the listeners out there.

624
00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:27,800
This whole thing got delayed by about 20 minutes

625
00:45:27,800 --> 00:45:31,840
because AT&T and their fabulous internet service,

626
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:36,560
decided to take a dump right before our schedule

627
00:45:36,560 --> 00:45:37,480
start time tonight.

628
00:45:37,480 --> 00:45:39,040
So my apologies.

629
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:43,480
I appreciate you both for waiting around while I was getting

630
00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:44,520
that done just loud.

631
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:47,920
You got anything else you want to throw out there

632
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:51,880
before us, anything else you want to say?

633
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:55,000
The only thing I got to say is I'm going to be sitting

634
00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:59,920
at stage with my colleague and my friend, Oon Glee,

635
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,600
are we going to fill it and just be prepared

636
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:07,840
because I think I need to change my name to just louder,

637
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,440
because I'm probably going to be a little bit louder

638
00:46:10,440 --> 00:46:11,680
the former owner.

639
00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:15,120
It'll be my first show back, and I'm super excited about it.

640
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,160
Awesome.

641
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:18,360
Really excited to see--

642
00:46:18,360 --> 00:46:20,360
Really excited to see it.

643
00:46:20,360 --> 00:46:23,200
And I thank you both for joining us,

644
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:26,040
and I'm excited to see what you guys are doing

645
00:46:26,040 --> 00:46:29,080
in the Bitcoin space and bringing in other artists.

646
00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:34,240
And if you guys know any other artists, independent artists

647
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:38,760
that are interested in joining, kick them over our way.

648
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:41,760
We can direct them in the right way to Wablaik

649
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,640
or some other great sites out there.

650
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,600
So we started the show with Shrooms.

651
00:46:49,600 --> 00:46:53,120
That was the song everybody heard before the interview.

652
00:46:53,120 --> 00:46:56,200
And we're going to end the show with Cherry on Top.

653
00:46:56,200 --> 00:46:58,240
So I think it'll take us out with Cherry on Top

654
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,200
and just loud and angely thanks again.

655
00:47:00,200 --> 00:47:05,120
I hope to catch the show and hope to speak with you again soon.

656
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:06,560
Aint you for having us.

657
00:47:06,560 --> 00:47:07,680
Thank you guys so much.

658
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:10,320
Jay, I can't wait to meet you in real life.

659
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:12,200
Hey, I'll see you soon, girl.

660
00:47:12,200 --> 00:47:15,400
[MUSIC PLAYING]

661
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:17,840
[MUSIC PLAYING]

662
00:47:17,840 --> 00:47:32,160
I'm not as dense as you think I am.

663
00:47:32,160 --> 00:47:36,400
I know that you didn't know that I knew about you.

664
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:38,080
You're a little bit.

665
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:42,440
But you had to go and tell everyone about my tension

666
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,320
that you hadn't won.

667
00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:47,520
But a better wonder, and I'll make you a little night,

668
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:51,160
dozen hurt my back like you thought it would.

669
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:54,280
Well thankfully, you did the hard part for me.

670
00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,040
And I just think it's good.

671
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,240
You put the cheer yourself for the last you made,

672
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:03,280
but I'll leave it out for long.

673
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:04,840
I won't see you alone.

674
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:08,960
I won't give you the reaction that you want.

675
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,520
See you, Cherry on top.

676
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:15,000
[MUSIC PLAYING]

677
00:48:15,000 --> 00:48:19,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

678
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:29,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

679
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:39,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

680
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:49,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

681
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:59,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

682
00:48:59,280 --> 00:49:07,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

683
00:49:07,280 --> 00:49:10,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

684
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:20,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

685
00:49:20,280 --> 00:49:30,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

686
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:34,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

687
00:49:34,280 --> 00:49:44,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

688
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:54,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

689
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:58,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

690
00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:08,280
[MUSIC PLAYING]

691
00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,080
Youth.

692
00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:14,600
Oh, to be young again and touring and playing shows.

693
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:15,800
Wouldn't that be nice?

694
00:50:15,800 --> 00:50:19,280
Hey, thanks to Ainsley and Just Loud for jumping on board.

695
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,840
Now let me go over some specifics here.

696
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:26,200
So Ainsley is playing the 20th and the 21st.

697
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:30,280
She's at, on the 20th, she's at Oshana Sea distillery, I think it is.

698
00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:36,320
And then the 21st she and Just Loud are at First Avenue

699
00:50:36,320 --> 00:50:40,320
in Minneapolis and Just Loud is the headliner.

700
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,760
I don't know if he's playing another show in town that night or not.

701
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:47,760
Either way, go to Just Loud's social media

702
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,080
or Ainsley Castello's social media

703
00:50:50,080 --> 00:50:54,720
to check out ticket information and things of that nature.

704
00:50:54,720 --> 00:50:57,440
One of the, like, the first Avenue event

705
00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:01,280
is ticketed in the event with Ainsley's doing on the 20th

706
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,600
is a Canar SvP type of thing.

707
00:51:03,600 --> 00:51:07,000
It's at a Bitcoin meetup in Minneapolis.

708
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,240
And other than that, thank you all very much for listening.

709
00:51:11,240 --> 00:51:14,600
Don't forget to send some sats, scroll back.

710
00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,800
We're splitting this episode with those two artists

711
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,240
so that they can get the bulk of the sats, right?

712
00:51:19,240 --> 00:51:23,880
Also big thank you to our host, RSS Blue,

713
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,880
and Mr. Davidoz, who is just awesome.

714
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:29,160
Thank you, sir, for all of your help and all of this.

715
00:51:29,160 --> 00:51:33,200
And thanks to the folks at First Avenue and Mike,

716
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:34,400
who are putting together the show.

717
00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:38,560
And everybody in the podcasting 2.0 RSS world

718
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,920
that have made our lives hell of a lot more interesting

719
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:42,920
in the last couple of months.

720
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:44,800
So thanks y'all.

721
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:45,960
Take it easy.

722
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:48,160
Don't forget to smile for the mug shot.

723
00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:51,560
[MUSIC PLAYING]

724
00:51:51,560 --> 00:51:54,140
(mellow music)

725
00:51:54,140 --> 00:52:04,140
[BLANK_AUDIO]
