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Welcome to the Dezentralschweiz Podcast.

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Today we are at my Roundtable.

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I think Roundtable number 3 is not really sure.

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I have three cool guests.

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Two of them were already at me.

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Tino in the episode number 62, which is not long ago.

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Sasha from the Swiss Bitcoin Conference was already at episode number 30 and 47.

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And we have another new guest, Cyril.

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I think some of you would have heard of this.

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But I would say, for those who know you,

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just to tell you,

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one, two, three, four,

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so that people know who they are.

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Will you start, Tino?

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Yes, I'm Tino.

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I was already here.

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My themes are mostly

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conceptional, philosophically-sellschaftlich,

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and usability.

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I'm a software developer,

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but if I don't see myself

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and I will see it in the future.

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Very good, that's good.

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Sasha, would you like to do that?

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Very good, thank you for your invitation.

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Nicholas, it's nice that I can be here at home.

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I'm Sasha and I organize the Swiss Bitcoin Conference.

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This is my contribution to the Bitcoin Community.

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I know many people who had already had the third conference.

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I'm excited about a new project I will present,

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which I have with Cyril here on board.

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Cyril, would you like to do it?

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Thank you for the invitation.

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My name is Cyril.

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The most people know me in terms of the Spar.

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We can in the Schweiz in Spar with Bitcoin

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or with Crypto-Kypter einkaufen, also zahlen.

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I built that.

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I'm a Gründer and a GFX.

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GFX is a company that is open source first.

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All we do is open source technology,

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which we provide free license.

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We focus on partners with open source partners.

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Payment is very important.

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We are the main,

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that if Bitcoin can give us,

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it will be an enormous amount of value.

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as if we can only hold it as a savings.

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And we have this

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with the Spar together

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and have because of that

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some of these are in the Bitcoin community.

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And I think that's why I'm here to be here.

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Definitiv, yes.

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Very good.

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DFX, you said it was in the last time

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quite a lot in the Bitcoin media,

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Bitcoin chats and all the way in the community

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discussed.

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It's cool, that a big Händler like Spar, who is in the whole Switzerland,

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has Bitcoin accepted.

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It's so that he doesn't accept Bitcoin,

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you can also accept your package with other Kryptowährungen.

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That's okay.

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You can hold on what you want.

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But it's cool that you can buy Bitcoin and Bitcoin Lightning,

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I believe both of you, right?

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Yes.

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And we hope that this comes to the people,

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to the Grossverteiler, because they see that we have a lot of benefits.

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Maybe, if we are at this topic,

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why did the Spar say that we want Bitcoin or all-time Kryptowährungen to accept?

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Is that a marketing stunt?

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No, not yet.

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They are really convinced that this is something new,

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which will be in the Akzeptance long-term.

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We have now a very good contact with SPAR and the staff at the time.

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And this whole project is now very solid.

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When I need something, I can call it,

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I worry about it, I worry about it, I worry about it.

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And SPAR takes this thing now really seriously.

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It's something that will be in the future.

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And not only a non-Tageseffekt.

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We have already the first Spar-Leads, which also hold the Bitcoins.

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They take the treasury, which they don't sell in the Swiss francs.

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We have a Bitcoin-Bitcoin-System.

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And it's more than a marketing stunt.

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And they hold then, or we can do more crypto-währd,

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but they hold all crypto-währd per se

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or are they actively in Bitcoin or other Währungen?

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Exactly, it would be your viewers sure to hear.

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Spar is a franchise-entrepreneur

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and there are many franchise-partners of Spar.

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And we have now the first franchise-partner,

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who want to say that all the Bitcoin convert into Bitcoin

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and in Bitcoin is paid.

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and they want to go to their own own custodial.

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I think that's not a better way.

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Souveränität, that's super.

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That's super.

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It's really cool, that so much Spar is so far.

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I think that the first was in Zug, the second in Krützlingen.

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With Sasha at the conference.

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I think he was in contact.

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I wrote, as I heard, that he was in Zug,

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and Cyril was so fast and had to go to the conference in Kreuzlingen.

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That was a great action. Thank you, Cyril.

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You want to know the roadmap for the rollout?

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I was last time in Wildhaus, not just there, but in the Kaffito in Spararien.

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They knew about nothing.

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They had a set of Freybach from the Zürich Sea.

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They knew nothing, but they had a bad connection with the Kasse.

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They didn't bring anything.

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But weiss man, how much, how fast, when, all of them?

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We have a home page with all the Spar-Markets.

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And the status of the status of the market.

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We have about 100 Läder,

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which are active, which can be paid, which is also personal.

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We can't say how much time the other 250 people are going to give.

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It's just free to the individual Spar-Markt.

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But we see clearly, that they find it all cool.

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It's so that people have a bit different.

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For them is not the right thing, but we can get more than every week.

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Adoption is running forward.

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And those people who have done it,

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they have no idea.

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They say, it's crazy, it's cool.

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There are the Bitcoiner who go to the store

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and pay for it,

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and show them that's super,

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and show them that they are begeistering.

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And this leads to the point that you can see

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that you can see a community that is really active,

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that you can reach,

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that you can reach on social media.

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And so I would say that all has been very developed.

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Of course, we are not at the point where you can say,

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You can buy every Spar.

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That would be more interesting.

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If you could buy every Spar,

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it would be a bit of time.

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But the adoption is already on.

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How long has the Spar in the U?

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It's not about a half a year.

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It's pretty good to have in such a short time

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over 100 Stars onboarded.

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More than a third.

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Really great.

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You have to do it.

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You have to do it.

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It's not difficult to do it, but you have to do it.

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It's not much time to do it,

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to say that it's new crypto-knopters.

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But you have to do it.

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You know, as it is,

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you have to do it with other things and other things.

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We are very happy with the work.

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We are also very happy,

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that it's not the same as the spare part,

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but that the other people are on the side.

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And that's really the most with the different companies.

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The motivation is not to do something with crypto or with Bitcoin,

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but the motivation is to do something from the best-time Arbiter

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to do something.

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Yes, and I think it's also attractive to the business.

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When you hear, especially in the Gastro-Bereich,

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The Kreditkarten is not attraktiv.

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Of course, we can buy it because people want to pay for it.

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But it's certainly very exciting for such a big part.

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There are two elements.

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One is very expensive, such a contract to set up,

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so that you can accept the Kreditkarten.

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You don't have that much anymore,

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but you have a more time to get it.

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The handling of these Kreditkarten is very expensive and expensive.

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with the pricey.

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So, that's called also for many customers.

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These are mostly available at the current unusual law regulation

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and have actually more expensive.

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Thisacje leads to basically –

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see, are we a printable thing look at this Apple,

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if it helps us become their its goals,

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if it helps us um quickly and more.

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Plus, more complex and more.

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Why not?

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This is basically there a mechanisms�를eler,

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przen to then.

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There was not something against the wind.

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In this week we heard something about the front against the wind.

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Or the Händler.

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There is a Swiss Retail-Source,

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which the retailers,

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like Spar, IKEA, Manor,

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all the Detailhändler,

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who are there.

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I was already there.

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I was going to show it.

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I was able to do our payment solution.

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They were also Geschäftsführer from Aldi, Lidl and so.

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And in that case, the feedback was great.

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Not because they'd be good at all,

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but because they understand that it is something that comes and it doesn't go away.

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It's not as before 5 years,

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that is not a scam.

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You can't get the money from the table.

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Today, in the management of these gross companies,

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everyone could be clear that Bitcoin has a Dosenprächtigung.

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And with the Spar we changed that narrative,

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so that we have to be aware that it has a Dosenprächtigung

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as Payment Layer and not as Investment.

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That's the answer we get the most.

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What can we do with Bitcoin?

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But that's not investment, not as a payment.

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And that narrative we change now.

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And I can say that everything is in the right direction.

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Very cool Do you have any problems You already talked about the personal the personal training It works but it just a bit of time

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Is it normal?

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Do you have any problems with the last few weeks?

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Is everything like this?

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Yes, it's like this.

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We had a system on our side before 1-2 weeks

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on our side,

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where we installed a update,

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which then has a problem made.

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problem.

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What is the most problem,

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is people who have their own

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lightning wallet on their own

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system or Ubuntu

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and then with them in the spare

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And that works not.

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Yes, and then it's also...

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The most problem are people who are very

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very deep in the theme.

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Also, the people who don't have

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with the wallet on Satoshi, they don't have

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a problem. That works tip-top.

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But there are people who come in and want to pay me a Bitcoin

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and they feel like they have a Lightning Rechnung

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and they can copy and paste it.

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And they think much too much.

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Or they have just expectations, which are about to go.

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For example, he wrote in the support,

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he would like to copy and copy and paste it.

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And there is our answer,

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you forget that we don't do it.

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He just uses a wallet,

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which is the best to use,

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a LNURL-Code to read.

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And then,

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it's done.

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Is that a problem?

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Is there so many Wallets,

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which not LNURL support?

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I don't know,

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it's maybe very strange Wallets,

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but I don't know.

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There is one,

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I'll call it the name,

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if you say it so,

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Relay.

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Is that a Lightning Wallet?

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Right.

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But it's so,

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that many people try it with them.

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In my friends' time,

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one of the first questions was,

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can I do it with the Relay App

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in the spare room?

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No, with all of them,

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but with them not.

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It's not true.

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But it's just so,

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Relay has a different focus.

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Leider is it so,

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that many people

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that with them verbinden.

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What would be cool if Relay just over the Onchain would be able to buy it,

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because we don't have to buy it on-chain.

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It would be cool if Relay would be able to buy it.

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It would be a few of the codes.

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It would be really easy.

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It would be a JSON, which you would parse and then you have a deposit address

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and then you would send it to your money.

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But, let's see if that comes.

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The only gross wallet, which the code doesn't read, but still relatively spread,

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is Moon.

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Ah, okay.

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All the others are compatible and work well.

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You could not even have a LNURL?

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Yes.

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Okay, I didn't think that.

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I think that's right.

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We have also a GitHub that has already been opened and noticed.

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But I don't have any interest.

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Well, I think that the most common wallet I know,

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Phoenix, Zeus, Wallet of Satoshi, Bitkit etc.,

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should all of them be able to do.

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But now you know that, if you are in the spare,

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you can see that you have a wallet that you can use LNURL.

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Or one of those previously known.

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It's a bit of a marketing-messing, I say it's a bit of a relay,

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it's a bit of a bit of a bit of a bit of a relay.

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But it's just a simple way, where people think,

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hey, I already have a relay, why don't I have everything right now?

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It makes sense, YoungLow is doing.

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I understand it at one point not so much,

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because the Lightning Wallet has not really worked well.

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I remember that in Switzerland there were many Meetups,

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where people would have bought the Relay Wallet.

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It just didn't work.

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It's not just an URL,

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but all the time Lightning is there relatively...

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Well, they are deactivated.

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Ah, okay, I didn't get it.

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I don't know exactly what the date is,

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I wrote it, it's all set.

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I don't know if we can use this as a

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specific alternative to the lightning alternative.

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We can do it.

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We said that Tino said that

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it would be a exciting topic.

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That's a new alternative to lightning.

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I don't know, Tino, would you explain what the ARC was about?

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We had a Masterclass, who was called?

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Dekon.

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He told us that ARC was coming, it would be a Referenzimplementation,

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but he was very fast.

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He didn't do it for Lightning.

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and then we thought, yes, not, but much better are we now not.

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Then I listened to the last podcast to this topic and thought,

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aha, and then I was learning, right?

336
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And then I was asked, what is the difficulty you could do with lightning?

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If you would say, okay, lightning is still cool,

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but Nicolas said, that's not what I said.

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For techies, that's not what I said.

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I have not seen it yet.

341
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But you have to understand the background.

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Especially when people use Phoenix...

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You don't want to be.

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Do you want to be?

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When people use Phoenix,

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and it's always said that Lightning is much cheaper than Sunshine,

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and so on, this theory is also true,

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but there are situations where it's not so,

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because you have a new channel on Phoenix,

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because it's more expensive for Phoenix,

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which would then be able to get the cost of Phoenix.

352
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Yes, no, there are still more arguments.

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I knew someone with only Bitcoin and Bargeld.

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So decided to buy a car that vas to 25'000 Fr.

355
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And then he issued extra an income shop,

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which are both Bitcoin accept of it.

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So he left with that the cost,

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then he was tissu with the rent,

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then traded to its wieleh Madam.

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And then the owner aviv Woodopol has no Lightning accept.

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He needed four days,

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to summarize it in the way,

363
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and then I would have to pay 25.000 for the Lightning.

364
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He would have to pay X transactions.

365
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And what he would have to pay for the transactions,

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I would have to know.

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That would be more exciting.

368
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Because the Lightning-Netzwerk is just so built,

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if you make more than 1.000 Fr.

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So with more than 1.000 Fr.,

371
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then exponentially increase the cost.

372
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But a gross transaction is also on the chain,

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and not on the Lightning.

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But his owner had a provider,

375
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who had to buy a Lightning.

376
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but then.

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What's more exciting would be,

378
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what kind of wallet he used?

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Because if he could have a channel

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to make up to the auto-handler

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and then

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everything from the channel

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overpushed and the channel

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would be a spillier.

385
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But then it's a free-and-chain transaction.

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But

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that's not

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the today's use case of Lightning.

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I've already made

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over 1'000$.

391
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It's good, if you have a good app and lightning node.

392
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And depending on how you can send it.

393
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But lightning is not just for such a price.

394
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That's just so.

395
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That's what we need to see.

396
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And I'm just saying that you need to understand more,

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how lightning works, what's the use case today.

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For Phoenix, which is the cost,

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if a new channel is made,

400
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it will be done.

401
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That's clear.

402
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And that's why...

403
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From a technical perspective,

404
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you can see different types of things.

405
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What I've said is valid,

406
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but you can see

407
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what they want to achieve.

408
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There are other reasons.

409
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If I have a Lightning-Zallung

410
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or a completely new network,

411
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I have a peer,

412
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I have a peer, which I found, if I would buy money.

413
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And even though this is a good thing,

414
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which you have already said,

415
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it's already bad.

416
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Then it's peer-to-peer.

417
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If you have a single-chain,

418
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a single-chain and a channel on,

419
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then there is no more

420
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a lot of communication.

421
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It's always a peer.

422
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Now they have thought,

423
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can we do this faster?

424
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And then they said,

425
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yes, we would say,

426
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if we would instead of every on-chain

427
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just one partner,

428
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we would say,

429
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if we would have a virtual server

430
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between us,

431
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which is called Arc Service Provider

432
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or whatever.

433
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And that is actually a tree,

434
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a root,

435
00:20:41,332 --> 00:20:43,052
also a root of a tree,

436
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a tree of a tree of a tree,

437
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which then actually

438
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the Bitcoin Protocol duplicated,

439
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but in its space.

440
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And that I find relatively interesting,

441
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because the company is of course Bitcoin, you need to have the server,

442
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you don't trust them, I believe, from what I understand.

443
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But he has the job to be enough gross.

444
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If you want to make a transaction, then he must fund you.

445
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That means a few grosses could do that, maybe even those who are now gross.

446
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But then the U-TechSaw, they call it virtual U-TechSaw Management,

447
00:21:25,732 --> 00:21:30,372
can then run in real time, because you have no blockchain time anymore.

448
00:21:30,372 --> 00:21:36,532
You have to make sure that nobody can rock pull or block.

449
00:21:36,532 --> 00:21:40,372
And it can also be, if a server is open for a server,

450
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that the server will wait for a long time.

451
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That means they have a back-to-back phase,

452
00:21:46,612 --> 00:21:49,532
That means that the server is automatically invalidated,

453
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so that he has his funds.

454
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It's just that he has to be out.

455
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But it's automatically automatically,

456
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if you don't have the channel yet closed.

457
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I found that, when I have this understanding,

458
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that it is a simple parallel system to Lightning,

459
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because it's a tree, not one-to-one or one-to-many,

460
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but a point in the blockchain.

461
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And that's the impression that this will come.

462
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I found that I was very excited.

463
00:22:20,512 --> 00:22:31,712
I have to say that the idea is that you can write information directly into the Blockchain,

464
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but abstractly over a service provider, an ARC operator or an ARC-Betrieber,

465
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which is how the bank has to be under a bank as a kind as a bank-settlement against the whole store,

466
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like anything with賞ups it itself not only with any conocidores

467
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but also with nobies.

468
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The Arc Operators have original Wentz-Annuel Stealth

469
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He produces so budget outputs

470
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Some small st類alisation, such as Kompeten term,

471
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TXO.

472
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So varios compañ子 user specialisation

473
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can be available as ARK features That do all the VXO to deal with the VXO Yes the server is a critical instance

474
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The protocol is working on it.

475
00:23:34,984 --> 00:23:37,984
When you take it out, you can take it out,

476
00:23:37,984 --> 00:23:40,584
because it happens not on the blockchain.

477
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But the server is on the blockchain,

478
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because the server is also on the blockchain.

479
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I find that cool.

480
00:23:47,984 --> 00:23:50,224
because it's always so pauschal,

481
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the lightning is not going to scale.

482
00:23:52,764 --> 00:23:55,924
And there is a tool to do that.

483
00:23:56,284 --> 00:23:58,264
And you have always been cryptographed.

484
00:23:58,844 --> 00:24:00,384
There's always no way to do it.

485
00:24:00,704 --> 00:24:03,084
Not like eCash, which you find cool,

486
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but that's just a cut.

487
00:24:07,564 --> 00:24:07,904
Exactly.

488
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There are different variants,

489
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how you can get back to the money.

490
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You have also mentioned the Runden,

491
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defined that the budget continuedry during the budget as well.

492
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This one, though I can definitely reduce issue but I know how to write this крyou know about Life.

493
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It has been a systemільки batch swap.

494
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The basis of hd it is usually produced every projectX information that creates basic dataные and websites.

495
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With thoseols of X 호's which people over Son know about the future approval.

496
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the customer, the user,

497
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must always be online,

498
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so that he can hold his money

499
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in his eyes

500
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and not fall out.

501
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Because otherwise

502
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he will be on-chain out

503
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or he will be in this sense.

504
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Yes, you can also on-chain out-of-ge-zahlt

505
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without you wanting it,

506
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if I understand it.

507
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If a person on-chain out-of-ge-zahlt

508
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will, can that mean,

509
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that you on-chain out-of-ge-zahlt

510
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will, although you never want anything.

511
00:25:12,384 --> 00:25:14,984
and this generates for you also costs?

512
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In this case, the whole badge must always be paid for the whole badge.

513
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With all the badges,

514
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with each badge,

515
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as the XO is, which is paid for.

516
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I think it's a tree.

517
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Yes, a tree.

518
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What this means is not to be answered.

519
00:25:31,384 --> 00:25:32,384
Can you say that?

520
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If I understand that, it's not the case.

521
00:25:36,384 --> 00:25:41,384
It's not so, that you're getting out of the way.

522
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with the Double Wallet.

523
00:25:44,984 --> 00:25:47,004
Inner Directory.

524
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Are participants for the server as well.

525
00:25:49,264 --> 00:25:51,664
In the pieces you have to lose your money.

526
00:25:51,664 --> 00:25:54,464
I'll show you at some real time that you save it because your players want.

527
00:25:54,464 --> 00:25:57,864
It's pretty clever but there isn't much doubt about it repeatedly.

528
00:25:57,864 --> 00:25:59,924
I can have a teacher saying.

529
00:26:00,584 --> 00:26:04,544
But thisuclens hype, it's cool, it's silent.

530
00:26:04,544 --> 00:26:08,564
Today I want an ARC up small persons to take care.

531
00:26:08,564 --> 00:26:15,564
Now I have a peer with Lightning, which is not if I make a payment, but if I get a payment.

532
00:26:15,564 --> 00:26:23,564
This is the case, because I have a gross number, the cash has the money and the money makes the money for me.

533
00:26:23,564 --> 00:26:26,564
That can be only if it is a gross.

534
00:26:26,564 --> 00:26:34,564
For me as a user is important to not trust in this, that it works right.

535
00:26:34,564 --> 00:26:39,564
And then, because we don't have to wait for 10 minutes, manage this.

536
00:26:39,564 --> 00:26:42,564
It's actually the same way, so long as cryptographically it goes.

537
00:26:42,564 --> 00:26:50,564
When you say penalty transactions, it also has to be in this sense.

538
00:26:50,564 --> 00:26:54,564
If I can't solve this every time, I can't solve this.

539
00:26:54,564 --> 00:27:00,564
I found in my view that it's exactly as good as lightning,

540
00:27:00,564 --> 00:27:02,564
but it's better.

541
00:27:02,564 --> 00:27:07,564
And one of the hurdles is to say that you don't have a peer,

542
00:27:07,564 --> 00:27:10,564
which you find, if you want to get a job.

543
00:27:10,564 --> 00:27:13,564
That's why, the improvement of the Ablauf.

544
00:27:13,564 --> 00:27:16,564
Yes, that's a good point.

545
00:27:16,564 --> 00:27:18,564
I'm sure it's a good point.

546
00:27:18,564 --> 00:27:20,564
I'm a lot of people here,

547
00:27:20,564 --> 00:27:23,564
so that I can say something about it.

548
00:27:23,564 --> 00:27:27,564
But as we talk about the argument,

549
00:27:27,564 --> 00:27:29,564
it's better than lightning.

550
00:27:29,564 --> 00:27:34,564
We can see if it's at all, whether it's at all.

551
00:27:34,564 --> 00:27:39,564
I believe that it's now half on the market.

552
00:27:39,564 --> 00:27:42,564
Is it possible to have an ARC-Betriebe?

553
00:27:42,564 --> 00:27:49,564
I know that the Decker said that it's a reference to the internet.

554
00:27:49,564 --> 00:27:55,564
If you're interested, look at the ARC website.

555
00:27:55,564 --> 00:27:57,564
website. The show notes is also in the

556
00:27:57,564 --> 00:27:59,564
end of the show notes.

557
00:27:59,564 --> 00:28:01,564
We have them in the live stream.

558
00:28:01,564 --> 00:28:03,564
But I find it a

559
00:28:03,564 --> 00:28:05,564
exciting topic. We will be

560
00:28:05,564 --> 00:28:07,564
on the screen here in the podcast.

561
00:28:07,564 --> 00:28:09,564
I think that, I know that,

562
00:28:09,564 --> 00:28:11,564
I think it's a little bit

563
00:28:11,564 --> 00:28:13,564
a bit of a bit of a

564
00:28:13,564 --> 00:28:15,564
technical freak, if

565
00:28:15,564 --> 00:28:17,564
everywhere, even at the time,

566
00:28:17,564 --> 00:28:19,564
something that doesn't scale,

567
00:28:19,564 --> 00:28:21,564
but we don't do that right.

568
00:28:21,564 --> 00:28:23,564
It's like with the

569
00:28:23,564 --> 00:28:26,564
All of them talk about it, but it's always a good thing.

570
00:28:26,564 --> 00:28:32,564
But we can develop a new plan so that we can be safe.

571
00:28:32,564 --> 00:28:35,564
But the key hammer is always,

572
00:28:35,564 --> 00:28:39,564
the quantum computer breaks Bitcoin.

573
00:28:39,564 --> 00:28:44,564
That's something I find out of the worst arguments against Bitcoin.

574
00:28:44,564 --> 00:28:47,564
Because if you work with banks together,

575
00:28:47,564 --> 00:28:53,364
then you lose the belief that banks are in this position

576
00:28:53,364 --> 00:28:57,364
to switch on a quantum-resistant device.

577
00:28:57,364 --> 00:29:01,364
And at Bitcoin is just a software update.

578
00:29:01,364 --> 00:29:05,364
And the Consensus is then quickly there, if your own money...

579
00:29:05,364 --> 00:29:12,364
I think a quantum computer, which would be free for the whole human being,

580
00:29:12,364 --> 00:29:16,364
would lead to the null coming, all the other together.

581
00:29:16,364 --> 00:29:19,364
and only on Bitcoin.

582
00:29:19,364 --> 00:29:22,364
Because Bitcoin is probably the money technology,

583
00:29:22,364 --> 00:29:24,364
which is the fastest

584
00:29:24,364 --> 00:29:27,364
on this new scenario.

585
00:29:27,364 --> 00:29:29,364
Bitcoin is today already quantitally resistant,

586
00:29:29,364 --> 00:29:32,364
if you use a Adress only once.

587
00:29:32,364 --> 00:29:35,364
With Schnorr Signature

588
00:29:35,364 --> 00:29:37,364
can we do more updates,

589
00:29:37,364 --> 00:29:40,364
which can ensure that you are

590
00:29:40,364 --> 00:29:42,364
quantitally resistant.

591
00:29:42,364 --> 00:29:45,364
We can also make these updates as a soft fork.

592
00:29:45,364 --> 00:29:48,364
you don't need a very big consensus.

593
00:29:49,024 --> 00:29:52,204
So it's all very realistic,

594
00:29:52,324 --> 00:29:53,524
to make a quantum resistance.

595
00:29:54,384 --> 00:29:55,764
But the rest of the Internet,

596
00:29:55,924 --> 00:29:59,684
starting with HTTPS and all the SFTP-Server

597
00:29:59,684 --> 00:30:00,884
and what banks can use,

598
00:30:00,884 --> 00:30:03,424
and that's all to update,

599
00:30:03,584 --> 00:30:05,184
I think that's impossible.

600
00:30:05,504 --> 00:30:07,324
And I think that's a quantum computer,

601
00:30:07,364 --> 00:30:08,184
which is free to use,

602
00:30:08,384 --> 00:30:09,484
I think that's a bad thing.

603
00:30:10,584 --> 00:30:12,044
Yeah, that's funny.

604
00:30:12,044 --> 00:30:14,344
I think that's also a problem,

605
00:30:14,344 --> 00:30:19,644
is not at the Bitcoin or the end user or the internet,

606
00:30:19,644 --> 00:30:21,144
but allgemein is also,

607
00:30:21,724 --> 00:30:24,264
that the quantum computer will first build.

608
00:30:24,964 --> 00:30:28,364
Of course, Microsoft and so on have a quantum computer,

609
00:30:28,564 --> 00:30:33,644
but they are so niche-y,

610
00:30:33,724 --> 00:30:36,604
that you could do something in the Bitcoin-Bereich.

611
00:30:37,424 --> 00:30:38,984
We are almost only years away.

612
00:30:39,284 --> 00:30:40,964
And if that comes so far,

613
00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:44,584
then is, as you say, the software update for Bitcoin is quickly.

614
00:30:45,584 --> 00:30:47,684
It's not just Bitcoin, which then broken,

615
00:30:47,884 --> 00:30:51,284
but actually every communication, everything we do in the Internet,

616
00:30:51,824 --> 00:30:57,264
is public-private key, or at least at Shad 256.

617
00:30:58,124 --> 00:31:03,444
So, yeah, so, you want to say something? Sorry.

618
00:31:03,624 --> 00:31:04,324
Now I said it right wrong.

619
00:31:05,324 --> 00:31:09,204
If you say Shad 256 as a solution,

620
00:31:09,204 --> 00:31:13,204
I have to go to the level of the level of the level of the level.

621
00:31:13,204 --> 00:31:15,204
But it's the same.

622
00:31:15,204 --> 00:31:17,204
It's true.

623
00:31:17,204 --> 00:31:19,204
I never wanted to go to this.

624
00:31:19,204 --> 00:31:21,204
It's funny, we just jumped on it.

625
00:31:21,204 --> 00:31:23,204
It's a great thing to talk about it.

626
00:31:23,204 --> 00:31:25,204
It's a great thing.

627
00:31:25,204 --> 00:31:27,204
But it's not about this.

628
00:31:27,204 --> 00:31:33,204
I'm just talking about the Mass or the conference.

629
00:31:33,204 --> 00:31:36,204
I don't know why I'm not talking about the lightning corry fair.

630
00:31:36,204 --> 00:31:39,204
I've heard from Severin or from others.

631
00:31:39,204 --> 00:31:42,404
They say something different, but what's happening to people?

632
00:31:42,404 --> 00:31:46,004
We are not, we are a freak.

633
00:31:46,004 --> 00:31:48,604
But the others who could have been there...

634
00:31:48,604 --> 00:31:50,804
Lightning, what's that for a crazy thing?

635
00:31:50,804 --> 00:31:52,004
And we've never heard...

636
00:31:52,004 --> 00:31:54,004
And that's not true.

637
00:31:54,004 --> 00:31:55,404
What's happening to people?

638
00:31:55,404 --> 00:31:56,804
It's just the negative.

639
00:31:56,804 --> 00:32:00,804
I find Spahn very good.

640
00:32:00,804 --> 00:32:03,804
Because that's what comes into my life.

641
00:32:03,804 --> 00:32:06,604
In my life, in my life, and I'm a hirsch.

642
00:32:06,604 --> 00:32:08,604
I know, when I get out of my house.

643
00:32:08,604 --> 00:32:10,604
And now I'm going to do this.

644
00:32:10,604 --> 00:32:11,604
That's great.

645
00:32:11,604 --> 00:32:12,604
Exactly.

646
00:32:12,604 --> 00:32:15,604
The Spar changed the whole thing from Big Con.

647
00:32:15,604 --> 00:32:16,604
That's really...

648
00:32:16,604 --> 00:32:18,604
The witziest thing is,

649
00:32:18,604 --> 00:32:21,604
if we had the Migros or the Coop as a partner,

650
00:32:21,604 --> 00:32:23,604
it had probably not a lot of effect.

651
00:32:23,604 --> 00:32:25,604
Migros and Coop only in the Schweiz.

652
00:32:25,604 --> 00:32:28,604
And the Spar only in the whole world.

653
00:32:28,604 --> 00:32:30,604
The fact that we had the Spar,

654
00:32:30,604 --> 00:32:32,604
was in the Schweiz a smaller investor,

655
00:32:32,604 --> 00:32:34,604
but the brand is much bigger.

656
00:32:34,604 --> 00:32:40,004
It helps people to prove that Bitcoin works.

657
00:32:40,004 --> 00:32:42,004
I see it on LinkedIn.

658
00:32:42,004 --> 00:32:44,604
People write, Bitcoin works not,

659
00:32:44,604 --> 00:32:47,004
I scale this and I scale that not.

660
00:32:47,004 --> 00:32:48,804
I don't answer that.

661
00:32:48,804 --> 00:32:50,604
We don't argue that we can't argue.

662
00:32:50,604 --> 00:32:52,604
We can prove that it works.

663
00:32:52,604 --> 00:32:55,004
We can use it in the All-Tag.

664
00:32:55,004 --> 00:32:57,404
It's a cost-of-use, it's scalable.

665
00:32:57,404 --> 00:33:00,604
The question is always, is the trade-off good?

666
00:33:00,604 --> 00:33:02,004
Can we improve it?

667
00:33:02,004 --> 00:33:07,204
But all the arguments that it doesn't work, are wrong.

668
00:33:07,204 --> 00:33:08,804
And it's software.

669
00:33:08,804 --> 00:33:12,804
So you make a software update and then you see the whole story again.

670
00:33:12,804 --> 00:33:17,204
We can also make some other themes with EVM and Ethereum.

671
00:33:17,204 --> 00:33:19,604
It's always called Bitcoin.

672
00:33:19,604 --> 00:33:22,804
But it's not yet, that it's not yet.

673
00:33:22,804 --> 00:33:29,204
We have now with BitVM a protocol where the EVM things can go on,

674
00:33:29,204 --> 00:33:30,024
for the company's work.

675
00:33:30,424 --> 00:33:31,664
It's all not in the development.

676
00:33:32,284 --> 00:33:34,064
But it's extremely dangerous to say,

677
00:33:34,164 --> 00:33:35,304
Bitcoin can this or that.

678
00:33:35,664 --> 00:33:36,804
It can change everything.

679
00:33:36,904 --> 00:33:38,364
It's all changeable.

680
00:33:39,004 --> 00:33:41,084
We're Bitcoin, what's going on,

681
00:33:41,084 --> 00:33:41,764
it's not Blockchain,

682
00:33:41,944 --> 00:33:43,204
but the idea we have.

683
00:33:43,644 --> 00:33:44,764
And we only use Blockchain,

684
00:33:44,964 --> 00:33:46,204
to our idea to drive.

685
00:33:47,764 --> 00:33:50,964
Yeah, maybe again to the Sparthema.

686
00:33:51,204 --> 00:33:53,544
Do you have many other customers,

687
00:33:53,784 --> 00:33:56,524
who came to the market and said,

688
00:33:56,564 --> 00:33:57,284
hey, we want this also?

689
00:33:57,383 --> 00:33:57,924
So, do you have this?

690
00:33:58,324 --> 00:33:59,004
Tatsächlich, ja.

691
00:33:59,104 --> 00:34:01,264
You can't even say anything, but...

692
00:34:01,264 --> 00:34:03,304
I would probably not say that.

693
00:34:03,664 --> 00:34:05,724
But it's really so.

694
00:34:06,084 --> 00:34:08,204
It's a bit of a bit of a bit, if I tell them.

695
00:34:08,464 --> 00:34:10,044
Also, if you really say gross.

696
00:34:10,204 --> 00:34:10,684
Okay, cool.

697
00:34:11,504 --> 00:34:13,883
And the motivation is always the same.

698
00:34:14,704 --> 00:34:17,644
They don't care for crypto, they don't care for Bitcoin.

699
00:34:18,504 --> 00:34:19,704
They find it very interesting,

700
00:34:19,944 --> 00:34:21,744
that we have a peer-to-peer payment method,

701
00:34:22,184 --> 00:34:23,864
where you just pay for peer,

702
00:34:24,184 --> 00:34:25,464
Visa, Mastercard,

703
00:34:25,464 --> 00:34:28,584
and the whole bank will leave it out and it works

704
00:34:28,584 --> 00:34:29,964
and it's very cheap and fast.

705
00:34:30,284 --> 00:34:31,064
That's cool.

706
00:34:31,684 --> 00:34:34,344
And we have already a very big deal of deal with it,

707
00:34:34,344 --> 00:34:37,044
who asked if they could have it, but without crypto.

708
00:34:37,744 --> 00:34:38,444
Oh, yeah.

709
00:34:39,324 --> 00:34:40,644
Yeah, of course, that's true.

710
00:34:41,604 --> 00:34:43,584
And my answer was, of course, of course.

711
00:34:43,944 --> 00:34:45,284
It's a peer-to-peer protocol.

712
00:34:46,104 --> 00:34:48,344
We accept for example, Binance.

713
00:34:49,204 --> 00:34:51,724
Also Bitcoin only is without crypto, right?

714
00:34:53,004 --> 00:34:54,224
So you understand.

715
00:34:54,224 --> 00:34:58,224
or you can pay for your Binance App.

716
00:34:58,224 --> 00:35:00,224
That's not a crypto transaction,

717
00:35:00,224 --> 00:35:15,215
but Binance makes an internal contribution from your account to our account What we built up is not Bitcoin Lightning Bitcoin but what we this but it a communication layer where you can do peer

718
00:35:15,215 --> 00:35:19,535
And the easiest way to drive the Bitcoin community is the bitcoins.

719
00:35:19,535 --> 00:35:21,215
Because the bitcoins understand it best.

720
00:35:21,215 --> 00:35:24,735
It's the same as a noser, it's not more bitcoins to do, but bitcoins understand it best.

721
00:35:24,735 --> 00:35:28,575
But it's actually more than only bitcoins.

722
00:35:28,575 --> 00:35:32,655
It's generally a peer-to-peer layer, which is completely open source,

723
00:35:32,655 --> 00:35:38,155
under a free license, where you can just make transactions directly from the sender to the

724
00:35:38,155 --> 00:35:44,896
customer. And Revolut has for example announced that they can be Lightning-Zallings in Europe

725
00:35:44,896 --> 00:35:48,775
or whatever. That means you can just use them in the Zukunft. With the Revolut-App you can

726
00:35:48,775 --> 00:35:54,775
buy them in the Spar. And on the one hand you have Revolut as custodial service. They don't

727
00:35:54,775 --> 00:36:00,535
use ARC. And on the other hand you have a Spar, which is the FX as custodial service

728
00:36:00,535 --> 00:36:03,535
or at least short-term.

729
00:36:03,535 --> 00:36:07,535
We are at the scale of the scale.

730
00:36:07,535 --> 00:36:09,535
This scale is unending,

731
00:36:09,535 --> 00:36:13,535
because you have a custody provider on both sides.

732
00:36:13,535 --> 00:36:15,535
Mass adoption is actually possible

733
00:36:15,535 --> 00:36:18,535
to the current time of the current technology.

734
00:36:18,535 --> 00:36:22,535
The problem is that it is not our ideal.

735
00:36:22,535 --> 00:36:27,535
I also encourage this development around ARC.

736
00:36:27,535 --> 00:36:30,535
I'm a bit more of a bit more than I can say.

737
00:36:30,535 --> 00:36:33,535
Okay, what do you find?

738
00:36:33,535 --> 00:36:35,535
You always need everything.

739
00:36:35,535 --> 00:36:39,535
You need to use the technique, but also the whole marketing,

740
00:36:39,535 --> 00:36:43,535
money, the right structure and everything.

741
00:36:43,535 --> 00:36:49,535
I believe that the spark of David Marcus will make it

742
00:36:49,535 --> 00:36:53,535
and a more often adoption will be more than ever.

743
00:36:53,535 --> 00:36:55,535
What makes Spark different?

744
00:36:55,535 --> 00:36:57,535
What is the idea of the bank?

745
00:36:57,535 --> 00:37:01,535
The problems they want to solve are very similar.

746
00:37:01,535 --> 00:37:05,535
They want to take care of the network with your own keys.

747
00:37:05,535 --> 00:37:09,535
In a certain way, you can use your keys.

748
00:37:09,535 --> 00:37:13,535
And they don't have any other way to sell it.

749
00:37:13,535 --> 00:37:17,535
That's the first idea of the same.

750
00:37:17,535 --> 00:37:21,535
A transaction will cost nothing.

751
00:37:21,535 --> 00:37:28,035
And it should be easy to deal with liquidity.

752
00:37:28,035 --> 00:37:30,535
They want to be the second layer of gear,

753
00:37:30,535 --> 00:37:32,535
also directly into bitcoin?

754
00:37:32,535 --> 00:37:36,535
Yes, they are compared with ARK.

755
00:37:36,535 --> 00:37:41,535
They say that it is compatible with Onchain or Lightning.

756
00:37:41,535 --> 00:37:45,535
If you have ARK, you can scan a Lightning and pay.

757
00:37:45,535 --> 00:37:47,535
You don't have to pay for one or two.

758
00:37:47,535 --> 00:37:52,436
So, they pay for you the Lightning Rechners and then they pay for it?

759
00:37:52,436 --> 00:37:53,735
That's the ARC also.

760
00:37:53,735 --> 00:37:55,835
Or there is another protocol, how he is that?

761
00:37:55,835 --> 00:37:56,835
IC.

762
00:37:56,835 --> 00:37:59,835
Yes, exactly, in ICA there are different models.

763
00:37:59,835 --> 00:38:02,835
I think something specific.

764
00:38:02,835 --> 00:38:03,835
There is also a protocol.

765
00:38:03,835 --> 00:38:04,835
The Fedimint.

766
00:38:04,835 --> 00:38:05,835
Yes, that's right.

767
00:38:05,835 --> 00:38:06,835
Cash-Rubizal.

768
00:38:06,835 --> 00:38:07,835
Yes, exactly.

769
00:38:07,835 --> 00:38:12,135
If you want a Fedimint wallet, you can scan a Lightning Rechners and pay for it.

770
00:38:12,135 --> 00:38:17,436
You make an intern a Fedimint transaction and a Relay for you.

771
00:38:17,436 --> 00:38:23,436
You are like a bank, your Mint is your bank.

772
00:38:23,436 --> 00:38:28,436
The bank pays for your Lightning-Rechnung and your cash-goat.

773
00:38:28,436 --> 00:38:32,436
It's simple, but I think that makes sense,

774
00:38:32,436 --> 00:38:35,436
because it will build on Lightning.

775
00:38:35,436 --> 00:38:39,436
The entire Zahlungsstream can be able to lay down.

776
00:38:39,436 --> 00:38:42,436
I wrote this last in the Buzz Channel.

777
00:38:42,436 --> 00:38:46,436
In the future will Bitcoin as a settlement layer

778
00:38:46,436 --> 00:38:51,835
not only to make a daily basis, but only a few people will use Bitcoin daily.

779
00:38:51,835 --> 00:38:57,035
Only huge institutions such as you, like you, as DFX or so.

780
00:38:57,035 --> 00:38:59,436
Or even some banks.

781
00:38:59,436 --> 00:39:04,035
Lightning will be a Interbankensettlement layer, I believe.

782
00:39:04,035 --> 00:39:09,035
Then E-Cash is also a daily spending for the normal.

783
00:39:09,035 --> 00:39:16,035
Then there is another third layer, which is micro payments for Podcasting 2.0,

784
00:39:16,035 --> 00:39:21,315
whatever, Parking oder irgendwelche Dienstleistungen,

785
00:39:21,315 --> 00:39:24,255
die man Streaming-Sets mässig brauchen kann.

786
00:39:24,655 --> 00:39:27,815
Ich glaube, dieser Ansatz ist wahrscheinlich am nachhaltigsten.

787
00:39:27,976 --> 00:39:31,476
So hast du für jede Use-Case einen eigenen Layer,

788
00:39:31,635 --> 00:39:36,335
der extrem effizient auf diesen Use-Case abgesprochen ist.

789
00:39:37,376 --> 00:39:41,815
Ich weiss natürlich nicht, wie das bei ARK oder Spark rauskommt,

790
00:39:41,815 --> 00:39:48,815
But I hope that if they don't have these layers, they can never...

791
00:39:48,815 --> 00:39:56,815
In your image, which you have shown, is clear that ARC and Spark are layered 3.

792
00:39:56,815 --> 00:40:05,815
That's not 100%, but so visually speaking, can you imagine that you are in this Spark or ARC-Netzwerk

793
00:40:05,815 --> 00:40:09,815
and if you want to go out, you don't make a transaction.

794
00:40:09,815 --> 00:40:12,815
That's always the worst case, but if you want to go out,

795
00:40:12,815 --> 00:40:16,815
you go through a relay via lightning.

796
00:40:16,815 --> 00:40:21,815
From the Anwender-Ebene here is Spark or ARK a layer 3.

797
00:40:21,815 --> 00:40:26,815
The reason why I'm a little more euphorical and at the moment,

798
00:40:26,815 --> 00:40:31,815
is to look at who has all of them committed to there.

799
00:40:31,815 --> 00:40:36,815
Coinbase, Revolut, Breeze.

800
00:40:36,815 --> 00:40:44,416
The Breeze brings an own APK, an own software solution,

801
00:40:44,416 --> 00:40:48,615
which you can build in the wallet or in the gaming app.

802
00:40:48,615 --> 00:40:51,615
This is specifically for Spark.

803
00:40:51,615 --> 00:40:56,416
We see the gross brands that support them, that they support them.

804
00:40:56,416 --> 00:40:59,416
And you can also emit tokens.

805
00:40:59,416 --> 00:41:01,615
That also brings capital to you.

806
00:41:01,615 --> 00:41:05,215
You can also show up with RGB and Taro.

807
00:41:05,215 --> 00:41:07,215
We were also in a conversation.

808
00:41:07,215 --> 00:41:11,215
We had a conversation with them already in many years.

809
00:41:11,215 --> 00:41:13,215
They wanted to build and build and build.

810
00:41:13,215 --> 00:41:15,215
So with both? With Taro and RGB?

811
00:41:15,215 --> 00:41:16,215
Yes.

812
00:41:16,215 --> 00:41:22,215
And they didn't have the speed, which you need.

813
00:41:22,215 --> 00:41:25,215
Maybe they could build long-term,

814
00:41:25,215 --> 00:41:29,215
but I'm a little unsure.

815
00:41:29,215 --> 00:41:34,215
We see, it's great that it's possible to use more opportunities.

816
00:41:34,215 --> 00:41:34,695
Compatibility, also

817
00:41:34,695 --> 00:41:36,876
ja, eigentlich wirklich

818
00:41:36,876 --> 00:41:39,015
Compatibility, das belebt

819
00:41:39,015 --> 00:41:40,896
den Markt, das ist super für den End-User.

820
00:41:41,235 --> 00:41:43,075
Absolut, genau. Wir haben jetzt ganz viele Projekte,

821
00:41:43,195 --> 00:41:44,795
die sagen, sie sind das bessere Lightning

822
00:41:44,795 --> 00:41:47,075
und alle Projekte

823
00:41:47,075 --> 00:41:48,775
untereinander sind kompatibel

824
00:41:48,775 --> 00:41:50,155
via Lightning.

825
00:41:51,015 --> 00:41:52,876
Das ist mega cool. Das ist cool, ja.

826
00:41:53,035 --> 00:41:54,035
Das ist wirklich lässig.

827
00:41:55,175 --> 00:41:55,476
Super.

828
00:41:56,835 --> 00:41:57,815
Wollen wir noch

829
00:41:57,815 --> 00:41:59,936
zum nächsten Thema kommen? Ich weiss nicht,

830
00:41:59,936 --> 00:42:00,255
vielleicht,

831
00:42:01,936 --> 00:42:02,555
ich habe gedacht,

832
00:42:02,555 --> 00:42:05,155
the whole

833
00:42:05,155 --> 00:42:06,075
The whole thing with

834
00:42:06,075 --> 00:42:07,876
the Tether,

835
00:42:08,135 --> 00:42:10,015
who already announced

836
00:42:10,015 --> 00:42:12,215
or already a bit of a struggle

837
00:42:12,215 --> 00:42:14,356
but now announced, that

838
00:42:14,356 --> 00:42:16,055
they are the biggest Bitcoin-Miner.

839
00:42:17,315 --> 00:42:18,515
What is your opinion

840
00:42:18,515 --> 00:42:19,675
to do, Sasha?

841
00:42:20,055 --> 00:42:21,376
They have that money, right?

842
00:42:21,615 --> 00:42:22,335
They can build everything.

843
00:42:23,815 --> 00:42:24,335
They can build up

844
00:42:24,335 --> 00:42:26,396
and build up as a miner

845
00:42:26,396 --> 00:42:28,856
and they are already in the mining business.

846
00:42:29,995 --> 00:42:30,815
And that's

847
00:42:31,495 --> 00:42:33,075
Most of the Centers, which they have,

848
00:42:33,135 --> 00:42:34,055
have a chance toother here,

849
00:42:34,115 --> 00:42:36,815
here Jesus' Israel capital Pourbat.

850
00:42:36,856 --> 00:42:37,615
I'm going to offer,

851
00:42:37,655 --> 00:42:39,356
because they are given up to this,

852
00:42:39,356 --> 00:42:43,015
and they will begin Swap and go towards which mining reps for inventing this.

853
00:42:43,715 --> 00:42:45,495
And that speaks to itself not that.

854
00:42:45,956 --> 00:42:48,015
Is it really rational, if...

855
00:42:48,015 --> 00:42:50,655
Sorry, Igard is already using the nacional of thatוטage...

856
00:42:50,655 --> 00:42:53,356
If I see I look at how many companies invest―

857
00:42:53,356 --> 00:43:05,295
do per example, how many million これ

858
00:43:05,295 --> 00:43:08,916
potentiallyмотрите on block!

859
00:43:08,916 --> 00:43:10,916
They just buy it.

860
00:43:10,916 --> 00:43:12,155
That's always a good idea to buy it.

861
00:43:12,155 --> 00:43:13,155
Of course.

862
00:43:13,155 --> 00:43:14,916
I always say,

863
00:43:14,916 --> 00:43:16,255
when I talk about mining,

864
00:43:16,255 --> 00:43:18,356
that for the normalcycling

865
00:43:18,356 --> 00:43:19,456
is it more attractive.

866
00:43:19,456 --> 00:43:22,795
But I think that's the idea

867
00:43:22,795 --> 00:43:24,595
that every, I say,

868
00:43:24,595 --> 00:43:27,235
every company or every company,

869
00:43:27,235 --> 00:43:28,436
that much money has,

870
00:43:28,436 --> 00:43:29,436
should make.

871
00:43:29,436 --> 00:43:30,635
And it's absolutely right,

872
00:43:30,635 --> 00:43:32,235
that they invest in the infrastructure.

873
00:43:32,235 --> 00:43:33,715
And if they invest in mining,

874
00:43:33,715 --> 00:43:35,956
that means that Bitcoin

875
00:43:35,956 --> 00:43:36,835
more safer,

876
00:43:36,835 --> 00:43:37,956
that it's more a business model,

877
00:43:37,956 --> 00:43:42,896
which they now have, with USDT, but also with Bitcoin,

878
00:43:43,275 --> 00:43:44,476
more stabiler will.

879
00:43:45,295 --> 00:43:51,075
I think they want the Bitcoin exposure to increase.

880
00:43:52,595 --> 00:43:55,356
I mean, USDT, that's how much it is.

881
00:43:56,035 --> 00:43:57,896
I think that's a business model,

882
00:43:58,555 --> 00:44:00,335
which will not so quickly go away,

883
00:44:00,456 --> 00:44:04,956
because the US will not make 180 degrees wind.

884
00:44:04,956 --> 00:44:08,956
Yeah, but they buy very many states-inline,

885
00:44:08,956 --> 00:44:10,155
American states-inline.

886
00:44:10,155 --> 00:44:12,755
And who bought the shares?

887
00:44:12,755 --> 00:44:15,356
The Americans are friends.

888
00:44:15,356 --> 00:44:17,155
We have now in the Crypto-Welt

889
00:44:17,155 --> 00:44:19,555
people who buy our states-inline.

890
00:44:19,555 --> 00:44:22,155
And I think that's probably

891
00:44:22,155 --> 00:44:23,956
a problem in the future.

892
00:44:23,956 --> 00:44:25,956
The dollar and so on,

893
00:44:25,956 --> 00:44:28,956
how the data might be done.

894
00:44:28,956 --> 00:44:30,956
But if they strengthen the Bitcoin-Netzwerk

895
00:44:30,956 --> 00:44:32,956
with more miners,

896
00:44:32,956 --> 00:44:33,055
So to Me Too Why this should have a problem here.

897
00:44:33,775 --> 00:44:45,795
It's also a problem reputation, because Tether censure

898
00:44:45,795 --> 00:44:51,956
they have a lot of feedback

899
00:44:51,956 --> 00:44:55,795
throughout Tether to make sure,

900
00:44:55,795 --> 00:44:56,876
you can have Maria's planning

901
00:44:56,876 --> 00:44:59,715
67 years old

902
00:44:59,715 --> 00:45:01,476
I understand this too,

903
00:45:01,476 --> 00:45:05,275
because it could not work with their structure, which they have.

904
00:45:05,275 --> 00:45:09,275
But would we really take this as the biggest Bitcoin miner?

905
00:45:09,275 --> 00:45:16,275
Wow, I think they will be the biggest Bitcoin miner.

906
00:45:16,275 --> 00:45:19,275
That's a good question, we know it.

907
00:45:19,275 --> 00:45:21,275
They have a lot of money,

908
00:45:21,275 --> 00:45:28,275
but I don't know how much the Bitcoin mining space has.

909
00:45:28,275 --> 00:45:34,275
I have no idea, but I can imagine that if they go into it,

910
00:45:34,275 --> 00:45:37,275
that will then be the other one more.

911
00:45:37,275 --> 00:45:40,275
Because they think, we have a big competitor,

912
00:45:40,275 --> 00:45:42,275
we need to get more gas.

913
00:45:42,275 --> 00:45:46,275
That could also come very well.

914
00:45:46,275 --> 00:45:50,275
In my notes I wrote in a article,

915
00:45:50,275 --> 00:45:54,275
that they would come over 1% of the global Hashrate.

916
00:45:54,275 --> 00:45:57,275
That's not so much.

917
00:45:57,275 --> 00:46:00,275
There are more mining pools.

918
00:46:00,275 --> 00:46:04,275
Maybe they are the most miners and not the most pool.

919
00:46:04,275 --> 00:46:11,275
The difference between pool template provider and grinder,

920
00:46:11,275 --> 00:46:16,275
I say grinder, but just the hash rate as a machine,

921
00:46:16,275 --> 00:46:19,275
that must be a little together.

922
00:46:19,275 --> 00:46:25,275
I don't want that Tether a template provider for such a big amount.

923
00:46:25,275 --> 00:46:28,476
DID NOT CANacinat his working for 4 years ago

924
00:46:28,695 --> 00:46:29,655
Yes

925
00:46:31,075 --> 00:46:33,995
What I found in a story

926
00:46:34,035 --> 00:46:39,615
funute 3 years term

927
00:46:39,615 --> 00:46:45,436
has to put 250 MW cock-annel air

928
00:46:45,876 --> 00:46:50,215
if you're a tech begin a concurrent labor

929
00:46:50,215 --> 00:46:52,396
for example Beznau

930
00:46:52,447 --> 00:46:56,767
365 MW, that means that almost a whole, not a whole,

931
00:46:57,127 --> 00:47:02,207
but maybe 80-70% of a atom-krafts

932
00:47:02,207 --> 00:47:04,227
directly in their opinion.

933
00:47:04,227 --> 00:47:08,507
That means that they also need to invest in energy infrastructure.

934
00:47:08,507 --> 00:47:10,507
And depending on what they do,

935
00:47:11,207 --> 00:47:14,127
I think about Uruguay or Paraguay,

936
00:47:14,127 --> 00:47:17,147
because they've already invested in the past,

937
00:47:18,567 --> 00:47:20,027
could it be more exciting?

938
00:47:20,027 --> 00:47:25,027
It was exciting. The last came, that the Fusionsreaktor Wendelstein,

939
00:47:25,027 --> 00:47:30,027
in German, could be 100 million dollars hold on 30 minutes.

940
00:47:30,027 --> 00:47:35,027
If there is so much money around, why not?

941
00:47:35,027 --> 00:47:38,027
That would be a very nice thing.

942
00:47:38,027 --> 00:47:42,027
Is there so much money around that it can be a fusion?

943
00:47:42,027 --> 00:47:43,027
No.

944
00:47:43,027 --> 00:47:46,027
The analogy that you can not only 100% find.

945
00:47:46,027 --> 00:47:50,027
You know, these reactions are not so gross.

946
00:47:50,027 --> 00:47:53,027
If you think that you can't see the power of this,

947
00:47:53,027 --> 00:47:55,027
I think that it's always a word.

948
00:47:55,027 --> 00:47:58,027
The Flugzeugabsturz is gross.

949
00:47:58,027 --> 00:48:03,027
Also, such a fusion reactor would be in potential a little,

950
00:48:03,027 --> 00:48:05,027
also, physically.

951
00:48:05,027 --> 00:48:07,027
I don't know how much energy it would be needed,

952
00:48:07,027 --> 00:48:09,027
until they are so on.

953
00:48:09,027 --> 00:48:13,827
In any case, we need to be able to use as a planetar.

954
00:48:13,827 --> 00:48:15,827
We need to be able to use energy.

955
00:48:15,827 --> 00:48:18,227
I'm also one of those who say, I say,

956
00:48:18,227 --> 00:48:23,027
but I say, you can use energy to be able to use energy.

957
00:48:23,027 --> 00:48:25,827
But the premium energy is electric.

958
00:48:25,827 --> 00:48:28,827
And we need to use energy.

959
00:48:28,827 --> 00:48:32,827
Because then you can develop new ideas and use them,

960
00:48:32,827 --> 00:48:34,827
because the energy is around.

961
00:48:34,827 --> 00:48:35,827
You don't have to ask me,

962
00:48:35,827 --> 00:48:40,147
killed my business idea, which would be for society maybe even more useful.

963
00:48:40,147 --> 00:48:45,827
Finally, the red line, which says, to the cost, because energy is to the cost.

964
00:48:45,827 --> 00:48:51,827
That's why Tether or other people on global scale would be the technology

965
00:48:51,827 --> 00:48:52,827
going forward.

966
00:48:52,827 --> 00:48:55,827
Those who say, we should now do the Atomkraftwerk,

967
00:48:55,827 --> 00:48:58,827
because the heutigen Technic are much better,

968
00:48:58,827 --> 00:49:00,827
that's not to beurteiled.

969
00:49:00,827 --> 00:49:04,827
But of course, they should then do quite a bit of money.

970
00:49:04,827 --> 00:49:08,827
And if they just want to imagine that they can buy more Bitcoin.

971
00:49:10,027 --> 00:49:12,027
Yes, look at what it comes to mind.

972
00:49:12,027 --> 00:49:17,027
I think it's good if a exponent is more in Bitcoin,

973
00:49:17,027 --> 00:49:19,027
even if it's just mine.

974
00:49:19,027 --> 00:49:22,027
I'm happy that they invest in a bit and not directly buy Bitcoin.

975
00:49:22,027 --> 00:49:25,027
There would be more than people like Sailor,

976
00:49:25,027 --> 00:49:28,027
who then in Prague on the Bühne are and say,

977
00:49:28,027 --> 00:49:32,027
go to your family, your family, your family, your family, your family,

978
00:49:32,027 --> 00:49:34,107
and pick out each indication of your commission I can buy

979
00:49:34,107 --> 00:49:35,227
all in Bitcoin.

980
00:49:35,987 --> 00:49:36,627
Yeah, them is probably –

981
00:49:36,627 --> 00:49:38,867
Bitcoin's almost all in .

982
00:49:39,907 --> 00:49:40,607
That´s video that right,

983
00:49:41,767 --> 00:49:42,787
and at the end of this video,

984
00:49:42,927 --> 00:49:44,547
those are doing to free 7,000USU,

985
00:49:45,167 --> 00:49:45,847
so they still don´t get that.

986
00:49:46,127 --> 00:49:46,847
So they do they still do it?

987
00:49:47,347 --> 00:49:49,047
They do they have the ability.

988
00:49:49,247 --> 00:49:49,907
Echt Hub ort.

989
00:49:49,907 --> 00:49:50,427
What I care about,

990
00:49:50,427 --> 00:49:51,647
the people just need them.

991
00:49:52,147 --> 00:49:54,287
They want to get a smart deal.

992
00:49:54,407 --> 00:49:55,767
They believe that their Ложuszament

993
00:49:55,767 --> 00:49:56,507
in September switchceubs from China.

994
00:49:57,207 --> 00:49:57,487
For многие companies say,

995
00:49:57,487 --> 00:49:58,187
there's an έχess at them put it be.

996
00:49:58,187 --> 00:49:58,987
And you will now have to spend faith

997
00:49:58,987 --> 00:50:00,327
on Bitcoin investing.

998
00:50:00,827 --> 00:50:01,867
The internet is here.

999
00:50:01,867 --> 00:50:07,427
He is a very strong communication in this area.

1000
00:50:07,427 --> 00:50:12,867
Paul, the Chiefs leader, said that his crypto portfolio

1001
00:50:12,867 --> 00:50:14,627
could be 100% as Bitcoin.

1002
00:50:14,627 --> 00:50:18,867
Yes, you see what it is in Lugano.

1003
00:50:18,867 --> 00:50:19,867
Yes, exactly.

1004
00:50:19,867 --> 00:50:27,867
It's quite clear that it has a lot of 1-2% shitcoins in tokens,

1005
00:50:27,867 --> 00:50:29,867
which we don't talk about it.

1006
00:50:29,867 --> 00:50:33,867
But I really want to say that Tether are Bitcoin.

1007
00:50:33,867 --> 00:50:34,867
Absolutely.

1008
00:50:34,867 --> 00:50:35,867
And you see it also.

1009
00:50:35,867 --> 00:50:38,867
Lugano is actually all through Tether.

1010
00:50:38,867 --> 00:50:42,867
And that's great, what happens with the Spar.

1011
00:50:42,867 --> 00:50:46,867
I think one Spar has in Lugano.

1012
00:50:46,867 --> 00:50:47,867
Yeah, right.

1013
00:50:47,867 --> 00:50:48,867
That's right.

1014
00:50:48,867 --> 00:50:50,867
You can also pay Bitcoin.

1015
00:50:50,867 --> 00:50:51,867
Cool.

1016
00:50:52,867 --> 00:50:55,867
Another thing that we can also pay for.

1017
00:50:55,867 --> 00:50:58,307
Sascha, you have a new project

1018
00:50:58,307 --> 00:50:59,367
at the conference.

1019
00:51:00,707 --> 00:51:01,787
We had the conference

1020
00:51:01,787 --> 00:51:03,707
in the third time.

1021
00:51:04,407 --> 00:51:04,967
But

1022
00:51:04,967 --> 00:51:07,707
it was more a surprise.

1023
00:51:07,707 --> 00:51:09,547
I'm with my

1024
00:51:09,547 --> 00:51:11,907
dance-soul, I'm the president of the dance-soul

1025
00:51:11,907 --> 00:51:12,787
in Kreuzlingen.

1026
00:51:14,127 --> 00:51:17,547
When was I was about

1027
00:51:17,547 --> 00:51:18,787
15 years ago,

1028
00:51:19,307 --> 00:51:20,507
we were at the fantastical

1029
00:51:20,507 --> 00:51:22,187
and we were there

1030
00:51:22,187 --> 00:51:24,667
told us, we were doing workshops,

1031
00:51:24,667 --> 00:51:28,807
shows live bands come the salsa music

1032
00:51:28,807 --> 00:51:33,627
and the people can dance and as I came with the president

1033
00:51:33,627 --> 00:51:37,207
in the conversation he told me that Lidl as sponsor

1034
00:51:37,207 --> 00:51:42,507
for this year and then I asked him if we could

1035
00:51:42,507 --> 00:51:46,627
help you to help him with the fantastic

1036
00:51:46,627 --> 00:51:50,627
fantastic is the biggest

1037
00:51:50,627 --> 00:51:52,907
See, Feuerwerk Europas.

1038
00:51:53,647 --> 00:51:54,867
Bei uns am Bodensee

1039
00:51:54,867 --> 00:51:56,527
mit Konstanz zusammen kommen da

1040
00:51:56,527 --> 00:51:58,767
Hunderttausende von Menschen, die

1041
00:51:58,767 --> 00:52:00,567
sich das Feuerwerk

1042
00:52:00,567 --> 00:52:02,447
anschauen und wir haben drei Tage dann

1043
00:52:02,447 --> 00:52:03,907
Programm sozusagen.

1044
00:52:04,967 --> 00:52:06,547
Einmal beginnen mit dem

1045
00:52:06,547 --> 00:52:08,707
Tanzverein über die Connections zu dem

1046
00:52:08,707 --> 00:52:10,827
Oka vom Fantastical.

1047
00:52:11,467 --> 00:52:12,747
Da habe ich dann gefragt,

1048
00:52:12,867 --> 00:52:13,927
wie steht der zu Bitcoin?

1049
00:52:14,887 --> 00:52:16,487
Sascha, wir kennen dich, wir wissen, dass du

1050
00:52:16,487 --> 00:52:18,707
im Bitcoin Space bist und mittlerweile

1051
00:52:18,707 --> 00:52:20,567
sind wir auch ein bisschen schlauer geworden. Wir werden

1052
00:52:20,567 --> 00:52:24,247
that we can even make it with us as a sponsor here.

1053
00:52:26,487 --> 00:52:27,487
So we can also take it with us as a sponsor.

1054
00:52:29,007 --> 00:52:32,667
So is then the idea that I found out there,

1055
00:52:32,807 --> 00:52:34,207
that they would have met with us.

1056
00:52:34,627 --> 00:52:36,447
I contacted all my audience here.

1057
00:52:37,207 --> 00:52:38,867
And Cyril of course also new to me,

1058
00:52:38,947 --> 00:52:40,347
because I had already contacted him.

1059
00:52:41,267 --> 00:52:42,647
Then I asked them to ask,

1060
00:52:42,727 --> 00:52:44,387
hey, will we go to something completely new?

1061
00:52:44,907 --> 00:52:47,567
We have a Open-Air-Festival,

1062
00:52:47,687 --> 00:52:50,447
where we Bitcoin can be shown here in the German Süddeutschen.

1063
00:52:50,567 --> 00:52:54,567
in the Schweiz, the people in Österreich, they can all come with.

1064
00:52:54,567 --> 00:52:58,567
So that would be a big event, where we can have a big

1065
00:52:58,567 --> 00:53:02,567
Bitcoin community, maybe from Bitcoin,

1066
00:53:02,567 --> 00:53:06,567
here to take off, in which we act as a

1067
00:53:06,567 --> 00:53:10,567
main sponsor. And Lidl is also a world company,

1068
00:53:10,567 --> 00:53:14,567
so like the SPAR, which we are going to use

1069
00:53:14,567 --> 00:53:18,567
with our new-growing team.

1070
00:53:18,567 --> 00:53:22,827
I say now Team, that's called Bitcoin Bodensee,

1071
00:53:22,827 --> 00:53:24,947
with the Cyril is here,

1072
00:53:24,947 --> 00:53:27,447
the Sascha Krumbach from Green Mining DAO

1073
00:53:27,447 --> 00:53:31,187
and I with the Swiss Bitcoin Conference.

1074
00:53:31,187 --> 00:53:34,147
So I took the two Jungs to get into it

1075
00:53:34,147 --> 00:53:38,327
and then we took the main sponsor for the big fest,

1076
00:53:38,327 --> 00:53:42,187
which here in our wide range

1077
00:53:42,187 --> 00:53:47,427
has many people unlocked and we can position it with the topic Bitcoin.

1078
00:53:47,427 --> 00:53:53,927
That's what we are also in the press, we are in the newspaper, in the newspaper, in the

1079
00:53:53,927 --> 00:53:59,427
newspaper and also in the advertising, with a Bitcoin-Zeichen.

1080
00:53:59,427 --> 00:54:04,427
That's what the people think here in Kreuzlingen, what is here?

1081
00:54:04,427 --> 00:54:07,427
That's a little Bitcoin-Hochburg.

1082
00:54:07,427 --> 00:54:11,427
And with the Fest we have thought, what do we do?

1083
00:54:11,427 --> 00:54:14,427
I hope that all the Bitcoiner come here, they are all welcome.

1084
00:54:14,427 --> 00:54:20,107
But we have a public audience that is here at such a folks' festival,

1085
00:54:20,107 --> 00:54:26,267
with family, who are going to flanier and come in our orange cell

1086
00:54:26,267 --> 00:54:30,347
and want to know more about Bitcoin.

1087
00:54:30,347 --> 00:54:34,347
So it was the idea of the idea, with the young people together,

1088
00:54:34,347 --> 00:54:36,987
this Fantastical here to rock.

1089
00:54:36,987 --> 00:54:44,027
And we are very present with Bitcoin in Switzerland and Germany.

1090
00:54:44,427 --> 00:54:46,427
the Australian, really here present

1091
00:54:46,427 --> 00:54:48,427
where they can now

1092
00:54:48,427 --> 00:54:50,427
more about Bitcoin learn.

1093
00:54:50,427 --> 00:54:52,427
Because we are now a big

1094
00:54:52,427 --> 00:54:54,427
big festival as Bitcoin Family

1095
00:54:54,427 --> 00:54:56,427
sponsored.

1096
00:54:56,427 --> 00:54:58,427
So this is in this case a dance festival?

1097
00:54:58,427 --> 00:55:00,427
No, no, no.

1098
00:55:00,427 --> 00:55:02,427
That's

1099
00:55:02,427 --> 00:55:04,427
Fantasticlistenfest,

1100
00:55:04,427 --> 00:55:06,427
there is a lunar park

1101
00:55:06,427 --> 00:55:08,427
with

1102
00:55:08,427 --> 00:55:10,427
places for children,

1103
00:55:10,427 --> 00:55:12,427
Hüpfburgen,

1104
00:55:12,427 --> 00:55:17,427
There are places where you can eat and drink.

1105
00:55:17,427 --> 00:55:22,427
There is a huge area, maybe you know it's still at the sea,

1106
00:55:22,427 --> 00:55:27,427
that starts at the beginning of Constance and goes almost to the Bortigof.

1107
00:55:27,427 --> 00:55:30,427
That is, the whole sea is filled with the Selte,

1108
00:55:30,427 --> 00:55:36,427
which are then built up and can then take a huge area.

1109
00:55:36,427 --> 00:55:43,927
Of course, you can drink food, music is in the individual parties or the Selts.

1110
00:55:43,927 --> 00:55:52,427
And at the end of the day, the program is set up with the big fireworks, which you can see on the sea.

1111
00:55:52,427 --> 00:55:56,427
And after the fireworks, there are parties until 3-4 o'clock.

1112
00:55:56,427 --> 00:56:05,427
There are Hip-Hop, Techno, there are also various parties, all the possible parties.

1113
00:56:05,427 --> 00:56:15,427
because there are almost 70.000 people who come there and come on the day and evening, especially on the day, when there is a firework.

1114
00:56:15,427 --> 00:56:26,427
We have said that we will make a place, we will have a place to do it, we have the editor, the Cyrilbdfx.swiss,

1115
00:56:26,427 --> 00:56:33,427
I call it the name, so you can see what exactly that is, then he is Sasha from Greenlining DAO.

1116
00:56:33,427 --> 00:56:35,827
with. And I have

1117
00:56:35,827 --> 00:56:37,907
another Jonathan

1118
00:56:37,907 --> 00:56:39,587
with the Wicht from

1119
00:56:39,587 --> 00:56:40,987
Dezentral Shop, who

1120
00:56:40,987 --> 00:56:43,567
helps us here,

1121
00:56:43,667 --> 00:56:45,467
a little merchandising to work,

1122
00:56:45,567 --> 00:56:47,947
so that we can present a few books here,

1123
00:56:47,947 --> 00:56:48,867
and people here play the orange.

1124
00:56:50,087 --> 00:56:51,627
And there is another small

1125
00:56:51,627 --> 00:56:53,647
lounge to do, where we can

1126
00:56:53,647 --> 00:56:54,827
get a little bit of a conversation,

1127
00:56:55,167 --> 00:56:56,167
get a little bit of a conversation.

1128
00:56:56,587 --> 00:56:57,707
Plus, of course, what's

1129
00:56:57,707 --> 00:57:00,027
important is, is a

1130
00:57:00,027 --> 00:57:00,747
small screen,

1131
00:57:00,747 --> 00:57:03,307
on which a speaker

1132
00:57:03,307 --> 00:57:04,107
then for a minute

1133
00:57:04,107 --> 00:57:05,627
something to tell

1134
00:57:05,627 --> 00:57:06,987
and there I look at

1135
00:57:06,987 --> 00:57:08,727
with the team

1136
00:57:08,727 --> 00:57:09,747
who makes

1137
00:57:09,747 --> 00:57:10,647
what program

1138
00:57:10,647 --> 00:57:11,307
makes

1139
00:57:11,307 --> 00:57:12,387
so that is

1140
00:57:12,387 --> 00:57:14,487
the plan for

1141
00:57:14,487 --> 00:57:15,367
the fantastical

1142
00:57:15,367 --> 00:57:16,907
from

1143
00:57:16,907 --> 00:57:18,247
8 to 10

1144
00:57:18,247 --> 00:57:18,787
August

1145
00:57:18,787 --> 00:57:21,487
next month

1146
00:57:21,487 --> 00:57:23,607
and we are

1147
00:57:23,607 --> 00:57:24,347
very short

1148
00:57:24,347 --> 00:57:25,307
that is all

1149
00:57:25,307 --> 00:57:25,687
very

1150
00:57:25,687 --> 00:57:26,827
spontan

1151
00:57:26,827 --> 00:57:27,387
entstanden

1152
00:57:27,387 --> 00:57:28,067
and

1153
00:57:28,067 --> 00:57:28,967
now we are

1154
00:57:28,967 --> 00:57:29,247
obviously

1155
00:57:29,247 --> 00:57:32,607
and to plan everything and to see how we can get it all.

1156
00:57:32,607 --> 00:57:33,967
But we have already thought about it.

1157
00:57:33,967 --> 00:57:37,167
We have already taken a few ideas here.

1158
00:57:37,167 --> 00:57:40,207
We have a Luftballons for the kids.

1159
00:57:40,207 --> 00:57:45,247
We have a Glücksrad where you could win a sentence.

1160
00:57:45,247 --> 00:57:48,447
We have a popcorn in the conversation.

1161
00:57:48,447 --> 00:57:52,447
We have different things that might be important for these people,

1162
00:57:52,447 --> 00:57:54,047
which then have an interest in us,

1163
00:57:54,047 --> 00:57:56,447
to come and learn something about Bitcoin.

1164
00:57:56,447 --> 00:57:59,447
I will be able to get all the Bitcoin.

1165
00:57:59,447 --> 00:58:03,447
It will probably be a topic that will be something that will be,

1166
00:58:03,447 --> 00:58:06,447
if someone wants to know something about Bitcoin.

1167
00:58:06,447 --> 00:58:11,447
I came from our 21 Meetup in Turgau.

1168
00:58:11,447 --> 00:58:16,447
There is a team with which I want to play some small info.

1169
00:58:16,447 --> 00:58:19,447
If people want to know something about Bitcoin,

1170
00:58:19,447 --> 00:58:24,447
then we have the young people in these orange Polos here,

1171
00:58:24,447 --> 00:58:27,947
which can then be able to see more information.

1172
00:58:27,947 --> 00:58:43,759
We have of course with Amster Ullam on the app which we will use the Bitisitaro app which he has done extra A bitcoin only app with lightning Am Sirilam stand die App die wir nutzen werden die Bitisitaro die er extra gemacht hat Eine Bitcoin mit Lightning die sie installieren k

1173
00:58:43,759 --> 00:58:51,899
Das heißt, dadurch, dass wir Hauptsponsoren sind, bekommt jeder, der zum Fest kommt, auch einen Extrafly von uns, auf dem er die App abscannen kann.

1174
00:58:52,079 --> 00:58:53,919
Und hoffentlich hat ihm die App auch eine URL.

1175
00:58:54,479 --> 00:58:55,039
Ja, natürlich.

1176
00:58:56,019 --> 00:58:57,699
Natürlich, das wird ja kein Thema sein.

1177
00:58:57,699 --> 00:58:59,879
because in the conversation,

1178
00:58:59,999 --> 00:59:02,299
we said that all the people who come to the app,

1179
00:59:02,499 --> 00:59:05,339
they have the opportunity to get the app,

1180
00:59:05,339 --> 00:59:06,699
and they have the opportunity to get the sat.

1181
00:59:06,699 --> 00:59:08,899
We're now talking about how we can do that.

1182
00:59:08,899 --> 00:59:12,719
The idea is that we all the people who come to the board,

1183
00:59:12,719 --> 00:59:15,079
with 10 or 100 sat, that's something that's something.

1184
00:59:15,079 --> 00:59:17,219
And these can they then really use it.

1185
00:59:17,219 --> 00:59:20,559
It's going to be the experience of Zahlungen.

1186
00:59:20,559 --> 00:59:23,259
Cyril had said that that's a lifestyle,

1187
00:59:23,259 --> 00:59:25,479
that's something cool, I'm paying now with sat,

1188
00:59:25,479 --> 00:59:27,299
I'm using the Bitcoins.

1189
00:59:27,299 --> 00:59:32,699
And we would have the opportunity to really have so many people on board on the weekend.

1190
00:59:33,419 --> 00:59:38,659
I'm excited about the numbers, how many people have the app sent to the end.

1191
00:59:39,059 --> 00:59:41,459
We have different ideas.

1192
00:59:41,899 --> 00:59:45,319
We want to do that with the funds system.

1193
00:59:45,319 --> 00:59:50,019
Everyone who gives his Becher back, doesn't get two francs, but two francs in the sat.

1194
00:59:50,819 --> 00:59:52,639
He doesn't have to stand anywhere.

1195
00:59:52,639 --> 00:59:59,339
the problem is that the people who get food out of the food

1196
00:59:59,339 --> 01:00:02,679
must have a food entgegen to take us on the stand, on the beer stand

1197
01:00:02,679 --> 01:00:07,159
we have a own beer stand, Bitcoin beer, that has Sasha Kumpar here

1198
01:00:07,159 --> 01:00:13,139
there are a small station where only the food can be given back

1199
01:00:13,139 --> 01:00:14,919
and the people just get a sense of it

1200
01:00:14,919 --> 01:00:19,119
also that is also again entstanden when we were at the See

1201
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:19,959
They were at the grill.

1202
01:00:20,959 --> 01:00:22,479
There were a few people in the room.

1203
01:00:22,479 --> 01:00:24,039
They had a few DINs and they took me good.

1204
01:00:25,059 --> 01:00:26,279
Also, we want,

1205
01:00:26,619 --> 01:00:28,779
think about 50.000,

1206
01:00:28,779 --> 01:00:29,859
60.000 people

1207
01:00:29,859 --> 01:00:32,359
at one week on board.

1208
01:00:33,039 --> 01:00:34,419
And they are from today to tomorrow

1209
01:00:34,419 --> 01:00:34,759
Bitcoin.

1210
01:00:35,859 --> 01:00:37,259
If they install the app,

1211
01:00:37,399 --> 01:00:38,139
they are in the box.

1212
01:00:38,139 --> 01:00:40,059
They are in the box.

1213
01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:42,439
I do this like this on the conference.

1214
01:00:42,559 --> 01:00:45,019
Everyone of us gets a NFC-Karte

1215
01:00:45,019 --> 01:00:45,599
from the box.

1216
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:47,319
I'm still on with 10.000.

1217
01:00:47,319 --> 01:00:51,579
Thatnal sch neighborhoods are now refereed together.

1218
01:00:52,499 --> 01:01:01,119
But it is about that ability to get

1219
01:01:01,879 --> 01:01:10,799
This handling that, the other 4x, theature is a person whom you call

1220
01:01:10,799 --> 01:01:12,939
This is a thinking, they are more Well at.

1221
01:01:12,939 --> 01:01:17,019
and start to deal with more and then they will be more and at the end

1222
01:01:17,019 --> 01:01:20,859
they will be the Bitcoin-Verstand and will probably be the right Bitcoiner.

1223
01:01:22,139 --> 01:01:25,899
And I think that the option with the App, which you earlier gave me the opportunity,

1224
01:01:25,899 --> 01:01:31,439
is a great option for so many people to onboard and they on Bitcoin.

1225
01:01:33,279 --> 01:01:33,699
Super.

1226
01:01:34,179 --> 01:01:39,559
In this case, for everyone, find it something that is music-technical,

1227
01:01:39,639 --> 01:01:41,139
if it is a-sense-technical.

1228
01:01:41,139 --> 01:01:45,559
ASS 그런데kusen esos gitu THE year Die Spberry gibt es damit die strewn

1229
01:01:45,559 --> 01:01:49,439
das ganze was es auf den Jahrmärkten gibt dann und es ist natürlich schöngelegen

1230
01:01:49,439 --> 01:01:54,399
wir sind direkt am See ja wenn das wächter super passt dann planiert man

1231
01:01:54,399 --> 01:01:58,639
da alles sie inUNS Shu Keids essen unterhält sich man hat Delete vertical

1232
01:01:58,639 --> 01:02:02,379
den mann da zusammen sitzt also wenn die Bitkonある da sind können

1233
01:02:02,379 --> 01:02:07,299
sie an jeder stelle sogar bei unserem Amzelten süßen abhängen und sich mit

1234
01:02:07,299 --> 01:02:09,299
other people. We don't have a big fan of

1235
01:02:09,299 --> 01:02:11,299
active advertising, but

1236
01:02:11,299 --> 01:02:14,299
we want to

1237
01:02:14,299 --> 01:02:15,299
reach the Bitcoiner.

1238
01:02:15,299 --> 01:02:17,299
So I'm here today

1239
01:02:17,299 --> 01:02:19,299
to tell you a bit about it,

1240
01:02:19,299 --> 01:02:21,299
that the Jungs here

1241
01:02:21,299 --> 01:02:23,299
will be able to do it.

1242
01:02:23,299 --> 01:02:25,299
But we really have a lot to do,

1243
01:02:25,299 --> 01:02:27,299
because it is a spontane

1244
01:02:27,299 --> 01:02:29,299
that we have to use.

1245
01:02:29,299 --> 01:02:31,299
We didn't have to use it every time,

1246
01:02:31,299 --> 01:02:33,299
that we can

1247
01:02:33,299 --> 01:02:35,299
here Bitcoin so present.

1248
01:02:35,299 --> 01:02:42,199
I was very happy that Cyril and Sasha helped me here, Bitcoin to show.

1249
01:02:42,199 --> 01:02:46,699
And how can we get the next stand? Can we get the next stand?

1250
01:02:46,699 --> 01:02:48,999
Yes, we are right there.

1251
01:02:48,999 --> 01:02:57,999
We have said that with the OKA from Phantastical, that was a important point we wanted to take off,

1252
01:02:57,999 --> 01:03:03,499
that all the investors who are at Phantastical are on board.

1253
01:03:03,499 --> 01:03:08,039
So Cyril will see that almost 100 customers,

1254
01:03:08,039 --> 01:03:12,239
which sell food and food and so on,

1255
01:03:12,239 --> 01:03:13,939
and that they also have Bitcoin-Salon.

1256
01:03:13,939 --> 01:03:15,539
He is already a professional in this area

1257
01:03:15,539 --> 01:03:17,239
and that can be able to take it.

1258
01:03:17,239 --> 01:03:19,739
And we can also have 100 companies onboard,

1259
01:03:19,739 --> 01:03:22,259
which will then in the future

1260
01:03:22,259 --> 01:03:26,959
at every event festival Bitcoin-Salon.

1261
01:03:26,959 --> 01:03:28,959
That is in this case,

1262
01:03:28,959 --> 01:03:30,859
if this is so happening,

1263
01:03:30,859 --> 01:03:34,179
the biggest festival that you can buy the most

1264
01:03:34,179 --> 01:03:36,299
on different places with bitcoin.

1265
01:03:36,299 --> 01:03:38,179
Probably with a distance.

1266
01:03:38,179 --> 01:03:40,979
I don't know if it's a pretty big place.

1267
01:03:40,979 --> 01:03:42,979
It's about five to ten.

1268
01:03:42,979 --> 01:03:43,979
Yeah, exactly.

1269
01:03:43,979 --> 01:03:44,979
And, yeah.

1270
01:03:44,979 --> 01:03:45,979
We're talking about 80.

1271
01:03:45,979 --> 01:03:47,539
That's crazy, yeah. Cool.

1272
01:03:47,539 --> 01:03:49,539
Not only that, we have here

1273
01:03:49,539 --> 01:03:51,739
in Prague with 10'000 visitors.

1274
01:03:51,739 --> 01:03:54,139
Las Vegas is at 30'000 visitors.

1275
01:03:54,139 --> 01:03:55,539
You have to say that

1276
01:03:55,539 --> 01:03:57,939
that's the biggest part of bitcoin,

1277
01:03:57,939 --> 01:03:59,539
which we pay bitcoin.

1278
01:03:59,539 --> 01:04:02,539
I think at a festival, there could be many people who say,

1279
01:04:02,539 --> 01:04:04,539
I don't pay Bitcoin.

1280
01:04:04,539 --> 01:04:07,539
So, we're just off.

1281
01:04:07,539 --> 01:04:10,539
We had a little bit of a break in the Updates.

1282
01:04:10,539 --> 01:04:14,539
I saw it probably a few minutes later,

1283
01:04:14,539 --> 01:04:17,539
that the Updates broke down.

1284
01:04:17,539 --> 01:04:20,539
I started it, as I noticed it.

1285
01:04:20,539 --> 01:04:23,539
We discussed it then,

1286
01:04:23,539 --> 01:04:26,539
so we didn't start it again.

1287
01:04:26,539 --> 01:04:29,739
Fantastico was already finished.

1288
01:04:29,739 --> 01:04:34,339
We started talking about the 80'000 Bitcoin, which were already gone.

1289
01:04:34,339 --> 01:04:36,339
And...

1290
01:04:36,339 --> 01:04:37,339
Yeah...

1291
01:04:37,339 --> 01:04:40,739
It was fun. Sorry for the technical question.

1292
01:04:40,739 --> 01:04:43,739
But we start with the topic,

1293
01:04:43,739 --> 01:04:48,739
what could happen with these 80'000 Bitcoin, which are the reasons.

1294
01:04:48,739 --> 01:04:51,339
I understand you.

1295
01:04:51,339 --> 01:04:54,339
I'm right, that's not changing your life.

1296
01:04:54,339 --> 01:04:57,839
But it's also very interesting to be with these things in detail.

1297
01:04:57,839 --> 01:05:03,219
For example, if you look at the strategical beacon reserve,

1298
01:05:03,299 --> 01:05:06,199
the US Bicons, which they have, why do they have this?

1299
01:05:06,399 --> 01:05:07,639
That's a good deal.

1300
01:05:08,679 --> 01:05:11,059
And a big part of it comes at the end of the Tether.

1301
01:05:11,939 --> 01:05:13,519
Is that so? Okay. Spannend.

1302
01:05:14,099 --> 01:05:16,399
Also not the Tether itself, but the Bitfinex.

1303
01:05:16,579 --> 01:05:18,179
But that's very close.

1304
01:05:19,099 --> 01:05:21,259
And there was a hack that gave.

1305
01:05:21,679 --> 01:05:22,919
And that's a good deal.

1306
01:05:22,919 --> 01:05:25,319
and these Bitcoins could then be sure.

1307
01:05:25,319 --> 01:05:28,919
And I'm doing a big deal of what Americans think

1308
01:05:28,919 --> 01:05:30,919
as a reserve reserve.

1309
01:05:30,919 --> 01:05:33,919
But actually, after a human being,

1310
01:05:33,919 --> 01:05:36,919
they would have to give them Bitfinex back.

1311
01:05:36,919 --> 01:05:38,919
Because they were in Bitfinex.

1312
01:05:38,919 --> 01:05:40,919
And the Americans have a very exciting sense of this.

1313
01:05:40,919 --> 01:05:42,919
During the Corona-Zeit,

1314
01:05:42,919 --> 01:05:45,919
there were the biggest Bitcoins that you could get.

1315
01:05:45,919 --> 01:05:49,919
Those who were confiscated from the FBI were then brought back.

1316
01:05:49,919 --> 01:05:53,919
I made the wits of all that you can't have the whole thing.

1317
01:05:53,919 --> 01:05:56,919
You can't have the whole thing, if you have the FBI.

1318
01:05:56,919 --> 01:06:03,919
You just hope that when you send the Beacons to Binance or whatever,

1319
01:06:03,919 --> 01:06:08,919
that they realize that and block you not to block you,

1320
01:06:08,919 --> 01:06:11,919
because they didn't get with it, that they are still sauer.

1321
01:06:11,919 --> 01:06:14,919
That's just the shit in the gross way.

1322
01:06:14,919 --> 01:06:16,919
That's always the shit in the gross way.

1323
01:06:16,919 --> 01:06:21,919
There is another theory, that legacy addresses are not more safe.

1324
01:06:21,919 --> 01:06:31,919
Maybe not so extreme, but maybe that there was a private key generator,

1325
01:06:31,919 --> 01:06:35,919
which was used in a bad way.

1326
01:06:35,919 --> 01:06:37,919
That could also be.

1327
01:06:37,919 --> 01:06:41,919
Everyone who heard this,

1328
01:06:41,919 --> 01:06:45,919
weiss, if he knows that he has a Bitcoin,

1329
01:06:45,919 --> 01:06:47,919
then he has to do something.

1330
01:06:47,919 --> 01:06:51,919
That's completely lost from what happens.

1331
01:06:51,919 --> 01:06:53,919
I have to do something.

1332
01:06:53,919 --> 01:06:56,919
And that will happen.

1333
01:06:56,919 --> 01:06:58,919
I find the stories interesting.

1334
01:06:58,919 --> 01:07:01,919
The Verschwörungstheorien, the Mausheleien,

1335
01:07:01,919 --> 01:07:03,919
but for me is important,

1336
01:07:03,919 --> 01:07:08,919
I think it's important for others to keep their money in the big economy.

1337
01:07:08,919 --> 01:07:10,919
It doesn't have to be compromised.

1338
01:07:10,919 --> 01:07:13,919
And if, then we're listening to something.

1339
01:07:13,919 --> 01:07:15,919
We're talking about something.

1340
01:07:15,919 --> 01:07:17,919
You have time to consolidate yourself.

1341
01:07:17,919 --> 01:07:19,919
And then you're doing it.

1342
01:07:19,919 --> 01:07:21,919
Then you're in a safe way.

1343
01:07:21,919 --> 01:07:24,919
I mean, at the beginning...

1344
01:07:24,919 --> 01:07:26,919
The big ones were from 2011 when I was informed.

1345
01:07:26,919 --> 01:07:29,919
I think between 2010 and 2014.

1346
01:07:29,919 --> 01:07:32,919
2011 had it no longer time.

1347
01:07:33,919 --> 01:07:37,519
Also, the 12 words we all know today, 24.

1348
01:07:37,519 --> 01:07:39,519
That's all later.

1349
01:07:39,519 --> 01:07:41,519
That's all later.

1350
01:07:41,519 --> 01:07:44,519
And now it's just a lot of verloren.

1351
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:48,519
Or stolen, hacked, etc.

1352
01:07:48,519 --> 01:07:51,519
It's pretty exciting.

1353
01:07:51,519 --> 01:07:55,519
I heard the theory about this, that there was a cryptographic outbreak.

1354
01:07:55,519 --> 01:07:58,519
The legacy-adresses are not more secure.

1355
01:07:58,519 --> 01:07:59,879
and that we could then do this,

1356
01:07:59,879 --> 01:08:04,159
and could be free and set a sign.

1357
01:08:04,159 --> 01:08:06,559
But still, they didn't just kill them,

1358
01:08:06,559 --> 01:08:07,979
but they gave them the chance to give them,

1359
01:08:07,979 --> 01:08:09,859
if they hear them, then take them.

1360
01:08:11,479 --> 01:08:12,279
Weiss I don't know.

1361
01:08:12,579 --> 01:08:13,659
It's all about a lot of fun.

1362
01:08:14,399 --> 01:08:17,279
Many have said that Bitcoin will now go into the hole.

1363
01:08:19,059 --> 01:08:20,539
Maybe we should it in the words,

1364
01:08:20,879 --> 01:08:23,379
where the normal Bitcoin, which is the last thing,

1365
01:08:23,379 --> 01:08:27,339
is to say, if you have your Bitcoins on the Bitbox,

1366
01:08:27,339 --> 01:08:29,339
you don't have it, then it doesn't matter.

1367
01:08:29,339 --> 01:08:31,339
Yes, exactly.

1368
01:08:31,339 --> 01:08:33,339
Then everything is good.

1369
01:08:33,339 --> 01:08:35,339
There are still some of the devices that were on the computer,

1370
01:08:35,339 --> 01:08:37,339
and the data are still speared.

1371
01:08:37,339 --> 01:08:39,339
And I have to use

1372
01:08:39,339 --> 01:08:41,339
a PC1 or something.

1373
01:08:41,339 --> 01:08:43,339
Minimum, yes.

1374
01:08:43,339 --> 01:08:45,339
Is PC2 better?

1375
01:08:47,339 --> 01:08:49,339
No, there is PC1Q,

1376
01:08:49,339 --> 01:08:51,339
I think that is very good, and PC1P

1377
01:08:51,339 --> 01:08:53,339
I think that is correct.

1378
01:08:53,339 --> 01:08:55,339
Yes, that's correct.

1379
01:08:55,339 --> 01:08:57,339
The P is not a critic.

1380
01:08:57,339 --> 01:08:58,339
It's not a signature.

1381
01:08:58,339 --> 01:09:01,339
There are many exchanges that are not able to buy it.

1382
01:09:01,339 --> 01:09:05,339
Yes, and there are many that support this.

1383
01:09:05,339 --> 01:09:09,339
Yes, there are many that support this BC1P-Adress-Format.

1384
01:09:10,339 --> 01:09:18,339
But these coins are now on the BC1P-Adress.

1385
01:09:18,339 --> 01:09:24,339
It could be that the Eigentum said that I would bring my coins in the same way.

1386
01:09:24,339 --> 01:09:26,839
Or, there's someone else's.

1387
01:09:26,839 --> 01:09:28,839
Or so, he's selling it.

1388
01:09:29,839 --> 01:09:30,839
Or, he's selling it.

1389
01:09:30,839 --> 01:09:32,339
Or, he's selling it.

1390
01:09:32,339 --> 01:09:36,839
What I'm wondering is that the price has been changed since last week.

1391
01:09:36,839 --> 01:09:37,839
Yes.

1392
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:40,839
Some said that's not a problem.

1393
01:09:40,839 --> 01:09:42,839
I was also very unsure.

1394
01:09:42,839 --> 01:09:45,839
Michael Saylor bought it not.

1395
01:09:45,839 --> 01:09:46,839
Okay.

1396
01:09:46,839 --> 01:09:50,839
I thought, now it's all together.

1397
01:09:50,839 --> 01:09:52,839
Why did you get it?

1398
01:09:52,839 --> 01:09:54,839
I think that's a good idea.

1399
01:09:54,839 --> 01:09:57,839
Because more of the price is sold as the price is sold.

1400
01:09:57,839 --> 01:09:59,839
That's not possible.

1401
01:09:59,839 --> 01:10:01,839
It's not even the same.

1402
01:10:01,839 --> 01:10:04,839
You are a good idea.

1403
01:10:04,839 --> 01:10:07,839
I'm not a financial man.

1404
01:10:07,839 --> 01:10:09,839
Why do you have to do 10%?

1405
01:10:09,839 --> 01:10:11,839
Just like that, because the weather is nice.

1406
01:10:11,839 --> 01:10:26,791
I think that the one through the current market I mean the war inannie packed among the contexts in pitching and the other side of the institution that largest has spend

1407
01:10:26,791 --> 01:10:30,131
the first half pay for a contribution to Emhoneus.

1408
01:10:30,131 --> 01:10:33,271
Will, and that will help it even a crazy amount?

1409
01:10:33,271 --> 01:10:37,271
I think that's just one factor.

1410
01:10:37,271 --> 01:10:40,271
It's probably hundreds of thousands.

1411
01:10:40,271 --> 01:10:42,271
And that's exactly what we know.

1412
01:10:42,271 --> 01:10:44,271
We are certainly in the opinion,

1413
01:10:44,271 --> 01:10:47,271
that it's massive underrated.

1414
01:10:47,271 --> 01:10:49,271
Yes, absolutely.

1415
01:10:49,271 --> 01:10:53,271
If we have a deeper market capitalization than gold,

1416
01:10:53,271 --> 01:10:55,271
we're completely underrated.

1417
01:10:55,271 --> 01:10:57,271
I mean, Bitcoin is much more than gold.

1418
01:10:57,271 --> 01:11:01,271
The only thing that gold has in the financial markets,

1419
01:11:01,271 --> 01:11:03,471
so that you can explain to people what Bitcoin is.

1420
01:11:05,111 --> 01:11:05,511
Absolutely.

1421
01:11:06,151 --> 01:11:07,171
It's really so.

1422
01:11:07,371 --> 01:11:08,671
But the Goldbugs are the first,

1423
01:11:08,791 --> 01:11:09,571
who Bitcoin can understand.

1424
01:11:10,531 --> 01:11:12,271
No, I think it's not.

1425
01:11:13,131 --> 01:11:15,371
If you're a libertarian Anlässe,

1426
01:11:16,591 --> 01:11:17,591
you have so many people,

1427
01:11:17,591 --> 01:11:18,811
who are Goldbugs,

1428
01:11:19,151 --> 01:11:21,171
who just with Bitcoin not clear.

1429
01:11:21,911 --> 01:11:22,171
Really?

1430
01:11:22,211 --> 01:11:23,151
I think that's very impressive.

1431
01:11:23,651 --> 01:11:24,991
I thought they were the first,

1432
01:11:25,091 --> 01:11:26,551
because they're the first to recognize

1433
01:11:26,551 --> 01:11:27,731
and they're at home gold.

1434
01:11:28,311 --> 01:11:29,471
Now they have a new suit,

1435
01:11:29,571 --> 01:11:30,851
so that they're not smaller.

1436
01:11:30,851 --> 01:11:35,851
But this is the time that they are open for new technologies.

1437
01:11:35,851 --> 01:11:40,851
They are so in their world, they have to do something hard to do.

1438
01:11:40,851 --> 01:11:45,851
They say, if I do not do anything, then intrinsically.

1439
01:11:45,851 --> 01:11:48,851
They've never read me.

1440
01:11:48,851 --> 01:11:56,851
I saw last video from the Zürcher Libertarian,

1441
01:11:56,851 --> 01:12:02,851
Roman was the name, and Oliver Tralala and Caspar.

1442
01:12:02,851 --> 01:12:03,851
Yes, exactly.

1443
01:12:03,851 --> 01:12:04,851
Have you seen it?

1444
01:12:04,851 --> 01:12:05,851
I looked at it.

1445
01:12:05,851 --> 01:12:06,851
It's the same.

1446
01:12:06,851 --> 01:12:11,851
But the question is, Sepp has always been told that I was totally neutral, but Caspar

1447
01:12:11,851 --> 01:12:12,851
is better.

1448
01:12:12,851 --> 01:12:18,851
What is, just completely neutral, is his opinion better?

1449
01:12:19,851 --> 01:12:21,851
The details should we have removed from it?

1450
01:12:21,851 --> 01:12:22,851
No, no, wait.

1451
01:12:22,851 --> 01:12:29,851
It's always the case. Roman says that, I'll let myself do it. Roman says that, he's been a failure.

1452
01:12:29,851 --> 01:12:35,851
I'm asking, where is the failure of Bitcoin, so that someone can come again?

1453
01:12:35,851 --> 01:12:45,851
I think that's pretty easy. He bought Bitcoin and everything and feels too late and such the next Bitcoin.

1454
01:12:45,851 --> 01:12:49,851
No, it's not that the people have interest.

1455
01:12:49,851 --> 01:12:52,851
They want to make money and earn money.

1456
01:12:52,851 --> 01:12:55,851
He's looking for the next investment opportunity,

1457
01:12:55,851 --> 01:12:57,851
which he can make.

1458
01:12:59,851 --> 01:13:03,851
I can't give a good answer to that.

1459
01:13:03,851 --> 01:13:06,851
We have all the available coins at the Fx.

1460
01:13:06,851 --> 01:13:09,851
There are many people who say that they are better,

1461
01:13:09,851 --> 01:13:12,851
because I can transfer my 80'000 pieces,

1462
01:13:12,851 --> 01:13:14,851
I'm going to transfer it, that someone sees it.

1463
01:13:14,851 --> 01:13:19,851
But I think that the whole argument is very infallible.

1464
01:13:19,851 --> 01:13:22,851
It's clear that there is nothing that is better than Bitcoin.

1465
01:13:22,851 --> 01:13:24,851
And if you see it differently,

1466
01:13:24,851 --> 01:13:26,851
then you have some interests

1467
01:13:26,851 --> 01:13:28,851
or you have it just not understood.

1468
01:13:28,851 --> 01:13:31,851
There are other things behind Bitcoin,

1469
01:13:31,851 --> 01:13:35,851
which are other benefits.

1470
01:13:35,851 --> 01:13:38,851
There are also some criticism about

1471
01:13:38,851 --> 01:13:44,051
and certain blockchains only for gamble.

1472
01:13:44,051 --> 01:13:47,251
But gamble is also a benefit.

1473
01:13:47,251 --> 01:13:49,251
We can talk a long way about it,

1474
01:13:49,251 --> 01:13:51,251
but I feel very serious about it,

1475
01:13:51,251 --> 01:13:54,451
if someone says that something is better than Bitcoin.

1476
01:13:54,451 --> 01:13:57,651
I also reacted to his LinkedIn post.

1477
01:13:57,651 --> 01:14:00,451
The title was called

1478
01:14:00,451 --> 01:14:03,251
Why Casper is better than Bitcoin.

1479
01:14:03,251 --> 01:14:05,651
I read a long article and I didn't read it.

1480
01:14:05,651 --> 01:14:08,891
I wrote a comment on the comment, but I didn't write it.

1481
01:14:08,891 --> 01:14:11,891
It gave me quite a few likes.

1482
01:14:11,891 --> 01:14:17,891
I think it's very impressive that others do this and then discuss it.

1483
01:14:17,891 --> 01:14:20,891
I have a lot of respect for it, but I don't do it.

1484
01:14:20,891 --> 01:14:23,891
I mean, this is a promotion action.

1485
01:14:23,891 --> 01:14:27,891
This event was in the Schweiz.

1486
01:14:27,891 --> 01:14:29,891
Yeah, in Syria.

1487
01:14:29,891 --> 01:14:34,611
And he probably had a platform where he could then sign up here.

1488
01:14:34,611 --> 01:14:38,211
Yeah, I was about libertarian, something like that.

1489
01:14:38,771 --> 01:14:44,371
Roger Brennwald, that was a TV-Moderator, was there was the host.

1490
01:14:44,851 --> 01:14:50,371
And I made a link in a link in a German,

1491
01:14:50,451 --> 01:14:52,851
who commented on that, said that in two hours,

1492
01:14:52,931 --> 01:14:56,611
that he was just the highlights and commented on it.

1493
01:14:56,691 --> 01:14:58,531
And I saw that.

1494
01:14:58,611 --> 01:15:02,131
But that one's even more honest and then not concretely,

1495
01:15:02,131 --> 01:15:03,991
why he's a better product.

1496
01:15:04,111 --> 01:15:05,351
I don't know if it's a

1497
01:15:05,351 --> 01:15:07,671
Zuger-Findling of Kaspar

1498
01:15:07,671 --> 01:15:08,971
or something.

1499
01:15:09,811 --> 01:15:11,051
It's not a good thing.

1500
01:15:11,051 --> 01:15:11,651
No, no, no.

1501
01:15:12,851 --> 01:15:14,011
They're all in the tunnel.

1502
01:15:14,251 --> 01:15:15,091
No, that's fine.

1503
01:15:15,271 --> 01:15:17,231
I didn't know that

1504
01:15:17,231 --> 01:15:19,431
something with the Schweiz is going to do.

1505
01:15:19,711 --> 01:15:20,671
It's me also the same.

1506
01:15:21,511 --> 01:15:23,431
Ethereum of the foundation is the right thing.

1507
01:15:23,451 --> 01:15:24,411
It's me the same.

1508
01:15:24,611 --> 01:15:26,671
So literal I'm not a fool.

1509
01:15:27,151 --> 01:15:28,151
It's me the same.

1510
01:15:28,231 --> 01:15:29,551
I look at the product.

1511
01:15:29,551 --> 01:15:33,031
But if the woman was there, I have to see what he was talking about.

1512
01:15:33,031 --> 01:15:36,811
He was the only one who spoke to the Dutch and the other not.

1513
01:15:37,131 --> 01:15:37,951
So like I am.

1514
01:15:37,971 --> 01:15:42,171
And he was always talking about the camera-like plenary of the Libertarians,

1515
01:15:42,171 --> 01:15:43,351
who then brav clapped.

1516
01:15:43,791 --> 01:15:46,111
He was already wearing the Wands.

1517
01:15:46,551 --> 01:15:47,291
That was already good.

1518
01:15:48,131 --> 01:15:51,091
I have also the Libertarian at the first conference and the second conference

1519
01:15:51,091 --> 01:15:51,931
and the second conference.

1520
01:15:52,831 --> 01:15:54,411
It's a bit of a split point.

1521
01:15:54,871 --> 01:15:56,211
And the interest is there.

1522
01:15:56,331 --> 01:15:58,031
And it's something political, something interesting.

1523
01:15:58,031 --> 01:16:00,031
what comes to this.

1524
01:16:00,031 --> 01:16:02,031
Also,

1525
01:16:02,031 --> 01:16:04,031
I'm not against the libertarianism.

1526
01:16:04,031 --> 01:16:06,031
I'm not neutral.

1527
01:16:06,031 --> 01:16:08,031
I'm not against it.

1528
01:16:08,031 --> 01:16:10,031
Like usual.

1529
01:16:10,031 --> 01:16:12,031
The Schweizer.

1530
01:16:12,031 --> 01:16:14,031
There's the text,

1531
01:16:14,031 --> 01:16:16,031
when we plant it,

1532
01:16:16,031 --> 01:16:18,031
that's from Canton to Canton.

1533
01:16:22,031 --> 01:16:24,031
Shall we go on the last topic?

1534
01:16:24,031 --> 01:16:26,031
Have you got any interest?

1535
01:16:26,031 --> 01:16:28,031
Yes, what have we got?

1536
01:16:28,031 --> 01:16:29,471
Frost und Frost-Snap.

1537
01:16:30,791 --> 01:16:32,911
Can you tell us something about it?

1538
01:16:34,091 --> 01:16:34,651
No.

1539
01:16:35,151 --> 01:16:36,451
I love it,

1540
01:16:36,571 --> 01:16:38,131
I'm in Technique very deep

1541
01:16:38,131 --> 01:16:39,791
in it to be given.

1542
01:16:40,731 --> 01:16:41,891
But ultimately,

1543
01:16:42,091 --> 01:16:43,331
I always look for the use of

1544
01:16:43,331 --> 01:16:45,451
the real world,

1545
01:16:45,491 --> 01:16:46,731
so that I can also

1546
01:16:46,731 --> 01:16:47,471
my mother

1547
01:16:47,471 --> 01:16:51,531
be bringing.

1548
01:16:51,991 --> 01:16:52,531
I can also

1549
01:16:52,531 --> 01:16:53,731
my friends.

1550
01:16:54,111 --> 01:16:54,971
If they ask me,

1551
01:16:55,011 --> 01:16:55,451
what do you do,

1552
01:16:55,451 --> 01:16:56,051
I say,

1553
01:16:56,111 --> 01:16:57,191
come here in the spa,

1554
01:16:57,191 --> 01:16:59,191
I'll show you how it works.

1555
01:16:59,191 --> 01:17:01,191
That's what I do.

1556
01:17:01,191 --> 01:17:05,191
I found a case for Frost.

1557
01:17:05,191 --> 01:17:07,191
How do I use it?

1558
01:17:07,191 --> 01:17:09,191
Because of that, my motivation is a little bit.

1559
01:17:09,191 --> 01:17:13,191
I can explain how I understand how it works.

1560
01:17:13,191 --> 01:17:21,191
Frost is a way of using Signature.

1561
01:17:21,191 --> 01:17:27,191
Frost is a bit of a flexible round optimized snore.

1562
01:17:27,191 --> 01:17:29,031
Schnorr-Threshold Signatures.

1563
01:17:29,911 --> 01:17:31,191
Und die Folge

1564
01:17:31,191 --> 01:17:32,671
davon ist eigentlich, dass man die Anzahl

1565
01:17:32,671 --> 01:17:34,791
von Kommunikationsrunden zwischen

1566
01:17:34,791 --> 01:17:36,631
Schnorr-Multisig-Teilnehmern muss

1567
01:17:36,631 --> 01:17:38,331
machen bei einem Multisig-Wallet.

1568
01:17:38,911 --> 01:17:40,791
Also das heisst, man hat zum einen

1569
01:17:40,791 --> 01:17:42,891
die Verbesserung in der Netzwerk

1570
01:17:42,891 --> 01:17:44,391
bei den Breiten, dass man weniger Daten

1571
01:17:44,391 --> 01:17:46,491
hin- und herschicken muss. Die Zeit und die Möglichkeit

1572
01:17:46,491 --> 01:17:48,311
von Fehler sind natürlich auch viel geringer.

1573
01:17:49,211 --> 01:17:50,571
Und ähnlich eben

1574
01:17:50,571 --> 01:17:52,551
wie bei Multisig-Wallets kann man

1575
01:17:52,551 --> 01:17:54,671
so mit mehreren Leuten

1576
01:17:54,671 --> 01:17:56,211
eine Signatur machen,

1577
01:17:56,211 --> 01:17:59,211
which looks like a identity.

1578
01:17:59,211 --> 01:18:05,211
So we have a 10 out of 7 Multi-Sign Wallet,

1579
01:18:05,211 --> 01:18:08,211
which 7 people signify.

1580
01:18:08,211 --> 01:18:11,211
So I can now use this Frost

1581
01:18:11,211 --> 01:18:14,211
with 7 people a sign of the name

1582
01:18:14,211 --> 01:18:17,211
and it looks like a person.

1583
01:18:17,211 --> 01:18:22,211
The same thing with 10 people.

1584
01:18:22,211 --> 01:18:30,211
It's privacy-based, you need a block space, and it's only one signature.

1585
01:18:30,211 --> 01:18:38,211
Frostsnap, which is a new company, is now on,

1586
01:18:38,211 --> 01:18:44,211
a signature device or a hardware wallet for Multisync.

1587
01:18:44,211 --> 01:18:59,211
which is a bit box in an Apple Watch with a USB-C port, which is like a daisy chain.

1588
01:18:59,211 --> 01:19:08,211
So, this is a bit of a bit box in an Apple Watch with a USB-C port.

1589
01:19:08,211 --> 01:19:12,611
I have just looked at this video, you put it in your phone,

1590
01:19:12,611 --> 01:19:17,611
let's say three of these Frost devices,

1591
01:19:17,611 --> 01:19:19,611
you can use them,

1592
01:19:19,611 --> 01:19:25,611
if I would like to use a Multi-Sig Wallet,

1593
01:19:25,611 --> 01:19:29,611
one is a Multi-Sig Wallet that I have at home,

1594
01:19:29,611 --> 01:19:33,211
one is at the bank and one is somewhere else on the world,

1595
01:19:33,211 --> 01:19:36,411
and then I can use them so, set them up, sign them,

1596
01:19:36,411 --> 01:19:40,411
and then you have to set it up not to be complicated.

1597
01:19:40,411 --> 01:19:42,911
It's really very easy to do.

1598
01:19:42,911 --> 01:19:47,911
I can take it geographically and then go back and signify it,

1599
01:19:47,911 --> 01:19:53,911
signify it, signify it, and so relatively easy to do.

1600
01:19:53,911 --> 01:19:57,911
Ohne gross technisch any sense of any idea.

1601
01:19:57,911 --> 01:20:00,911
It's really UI-messig awesome.

1602
01:20:00,911 --> 01:20:02,911
I found it really cool.

1603
01:20:02,911 --> 01:20:08,511
I have the video in the show notes that you can see it in 2 minutes.

1604
01:20:08,511 --> 01:20:12,111
Okay, it doesn't even bother me if I can say that.

1605
01:20:12,111 --> 01:20:13,111
Okay.

1606
01:20:13,111 --> 01:20:14,611
Let's start with the first one.

1607
01:20:14,611 --> 01:20:17,311
I have a iPhone and there is a hardware wallet.

1608
01:20:17,311 --> 01:20:22,111
That means there is a chip in there, which is NDA.

1609
01:20:22,111 --> 01:20:25,111
Is that not compatible with Apple?

1610
01:20:25,111 --> 01:20:27,711
I don't know if it is compatible with Apple.

1611
01:20:27,711 --> 01:20:29,311
In my video, they had an Android-handy.

1612
01:20:29,311 --> 01:20:30,311
Yeah, exactly.

1613
01:20:30,311 --> 01:20:31,911
But it can be good, that it is exactly that.

1614
01:20:31,911 --> 01:20:33,411
You can use Android.

1615
01:20:33,411 --> 01:20:35,311
But we can do it on Bluetooth.

1616
01:20:35,311 --> 01:20:37,611
I think the new Bitbox does it also on Bluetooth.

1617
01:20:37,611 --> 01:20:39,411
Yes, you can use it on the i,

1618
01:20:39,411 --> 01:20:41,111
so you have to have the Strom.

1619
01:20:41,111 --> 01:20:43,111
But the communication is on Bluetooth

1620
01:20:43,111 --> 01:20:44,711
on the Bitbox. I find it cool.

1621
01:20:44,711 --> 01:20:46,711
I have already pre-ordered.

1622
01:20:46,711 --> 01:20:47,711
Also here on this one,

1623
01:20:47,711 --> 01:20:49,411
I can use Bitbox to listen.

1624
01:20:49,411 --> 01:20:50,611
Absolutely, yes.

1625
01:20:50,611 --> 01:20:52,911
There is also a discounted discount in the show.

1626
01:20:55,711 --> 01:20:56,711
Very, very good.

1627
01:20:57,411 --> 01:20:59,711
Yes, it's different points.

1628
01:20:59,711 --> 01:21:02,431
probably with the iPhone it doesn't work,

1629
01:21:02,631 --> 01:21:03,911
you need Android.

1630
01:21:04,811 --> 01:21:06,491
Is that really a case?

1631
01:21:07,631 --> 01:21:08,811
One of the best

1632
01:21:08,811 --> 01:21:10,951
for Multisig

1633
01:21:10,951 --> 01:21:12,411
is for example,

1634
01:21:12,751 --> 01:21:14,291
you say, I don't trust Ledger,

1635
01:21:14,731 --> 01:21:15,631
I don't trust Bitbox.

1636
01:21:16,031 --> 01:21:17,231
I combine them.

1637
01:21:17,851 --> 01:21:19,691
I make a Multisig from Ledger and Bitbox.

1638
01:21:20,211 --> 01:21:21,891
That's a case for a case.

1639
01:21:22,191 --> 01:21:23,251
This is not the case,

1640
01:21:23,251 --> 01:21:24,731
you just combine three times

1641
01:21:24,731 --> 01:21:26,411
the same hardware from the same hardware.

1642
01:21:26,971 --> 01:21:29,671
I think that all is open to open,

1643
01:21:29,711 --> 01:21:32,711
and that could implement other hardware-share-share-share.

1644
01:21:32,711 --> 01:21:33,711
I guess.

1645
01:21:33,711 --> 01:21:36,711
I don't know, but someone should do it.

1646
01:21:36,711 --> 01:21:37,711
That's true.

1647
01:21:37,711 --> 01:21:39,711
It's a critical thing on the high level.

1648
01:21:39,711 --> 01:21:41,711
But if you want a multi-seek,

1649
01:21:41,711 --> 01:21:44,711
and you want a very high-quality and a very simple use,

1650
01:21:44,711 --> 01:21:47,711
you can use our BTC Taro wallet.

1651
01:21:47,711 --> 01:21:51,711
We have on-chain, lightning, but also multi-seek.

1652
01:21:51,711 --> 01:21:54,711
And it's super easy to use.

1653
01:21:54,711 --> 01:22:07,783
You have the situation where you put some devices in a different way but if you say that it not a matter of money you can have it then you buy three phones And if you want to give a transaction

1654
01:22:07,783 --> 01:22:13,783
you define the first one with the deposit address

1655
01:22:13,783 --> 01:22:15,783
and the payment you want to send.

1656
01:22:15,783 --> 01:22:17,783
Then you click on the button,

1657
01:22:17,783 --> 01:22:19,783
there is a QR code,

1658
01:22:19,783 --> 01:22:21,783
you scan with the second phone,

1659
01:22:21,783 --> 01:22:24,783
you see all the deposit address and the payment you want

1660
01:22:24,783 --> 01:22:27,783
We have a super multi-sign solution,

1661
01:22:27,783 --> 01:22:30,783
with a whole handy as hardware wallet.

1662
01:22:30,783 --> 01:22:32,783
You have nothing to do with it.

1663
01:22:32,783 --> 01:22:34,783
That's also a case.

1664
01:22:34,783 --> 01:22:36,783
I don't know if this is comparable to a repeat box.

1665
01:22:36,783 --> 01:22:38,783
But at the end, you have to ask,

1666
01:22:38,783 --> 01:22:40,783
for what you need to do real?

1667
01:22:40,783 --> 01:22:43,783
The companies need this option,

1668
01:22:43,783 --> 01:22:45,783
just a solution.

1669
01:22:45,783 --> 01:22:48,783
Yes, we have many of them to come to us.

1670
01:22:48,783 --> 01:22:50,783
They want something to do with big hands,

1671
01:22:50,783 --> 01:22:52,783
and there are more than the benefits.

1672
01:22:52,783 --> 01:22:54,783
If they have the responsibility of the company,

1673
01:22:54,783 --> 01:22:56,783
if not the chef of the company doesn't hear,

1674
01:22:56,783 --> 01:22:58,783
because it's a huge concern,

1675
01:22:58,783 --> 01:23:01,783
that the company has a few million dollars on his phone,

1676
01:23:01,783 --> 01:23:04,783
and the full responsibility for this must be.

1677
01:23:04,783 --> 01:23:06,783
And then the answer is always,

1678
01:23:06,783 --> 01:23:08,783
if you want a multi-site,

1679
01:23:08,783 --> 01:23:10,783
you can have the responsibility

1680
01:23:10,783 --> 01:23:12,783
on many management-Mitarbeiter.

1681
01:23:12,783 --> 01:23:14,783
And they don't want to have a hard wallet.

1682
01:23:14,783 --> 01:23:16,783
They trust.

1683
01:23:16,783 --> 01:23:19,783
That iPhone in combination with our app

1684
01:23:19,783 --> 01:23:21,783
is enough trust-worth.

1685
01:23:21,783 --> 01:23:23,783
I don't need to do that.

1686
01:23:23,783 --> 01:23:25,783
But it's also a hot wallet.

1687
01:23:25,783 --> 01:23:27,783
It's a hot wallet, yeah.

1688
01:23:27,783 --> 01:23:31,783
I'd say that with a sign-in device, cold storage,

1689
01:23:31,783 --> 01:23:33,783
it can be done.

1690
01:23:33,783 --> 01:23:36,783
That's why we can also use several parties.

1691
01:23:36,783 --> 01:23:39,783
The CEO, the government,

1692
01:23:39,783 --> 01:23:41,783
the Schatzkanzler,

1693
01:23:41,783 --> 01:23:43,783
who can give their signature.

1694
01:23:43,783 --> 01:23:46,783
But I think it's a cool concept.

1695
01:23:46,783 --> 01:23:51,583
Can you imagine that it can be in other hardware wallets

1696
01:23:51,583 --> 01:23:54,383
kind of like this?

1697
01:23:54,383 --> 01:23:57,383
I find it a new concept for Multisig,

1698
01:23:57,383 --> 01:24:00,383
which is really easy to see.

1699
01:24:00,383 --> 01:24:04,783
I believe that today, even Bitcoiners,

1700
01:24:04,783 --> 01:24:08,383
are already there, are always a huge thing about Multisig.

1701
01:24:08,383 --> 01:24:11,383
Multisig is always a huge thing.

1702
01:24:11,383 --> 01:24:14,383
If you want to put the Citaro app down and test it,

1703
01:24:14,383 --> 01:24:17,503
and then they see how it's really easy.

1704
01:24:18,583 --> 01:24:19,383
Yes, very good.

1705
01:24:20,523 --> 01:24:22,623
Do we have anything else that you want to talk about?

1706
01:24:22,783 --> 01:24:24,563
Or do we have to finish this whole thing?

1707
01:24:25,463 --> 01:24:28,003
Yes, I would like to come back to our festival.

1708
01:24:29,143 --> 01:24:30,883
I don't want to interview it yet,

1709
01:24:30,883 --> 01:24:32,323
but what they will do all of it.

1710
01:24:34,483 --> 01:24:37,023
Yes, we are still preparing.

1711
01:24:37,363 --> 01:24:38,103
We are still preparing.

1712
01:24:38,223 --> 01:24:39,043
Everything is a little bit short.

1713
01:24:39,463 --> 01:24:40,463
But it's certainly so,

1714
01:24:40,563 --> 01:24:42,263
that the more Bitcoin we have to offer,

1715
01:24:42,263 --> 01:24:47,263
the better we can also brand Bitcoin.

1716
01:24:47,263 --> 01:24:52,263
If there are some of those who have to accept Bitcoin,

1717
01:24:52,263 --> 01:24:57,263
they can't accept Bitcoin enough Bitcoin.

1718
01:24:57,263 --> 01:25:00,263
Every Bitcoiner must at least one time

1719
01:25:00,263 --> 01:25:03,263
and ask if I can get Bitcoin.

1720
01:25:03,263 --> 01:25:08,263
It would be cool if we can get it medial.

1721
01:25:08,263 --> 01:25:13,263
It would be stupid if it was a festival and people didn't get it.

1722
01:25:13,263 --> 01:25:17,263
We have the opportunity to brand it.

1723
01:25:17,263 --> 01:25:22,263
It's Friday and Sunday the Eintrity is costless, but on Sunday it's Eintrity.

1724
01:25:22,263 --> 01:25:25,263
And you can pay the Eintrity with Bitcoin.

1725
01:25:25,263 --> 01:25:27,263
We are already at the same time.

1726
01:25:27,263 --> 01:25:30,263
We are now at the same time, so that they all can accept Bitcoin.

1727
01:25:30,263 --> 01:25:33,263
But it's clear that they have other Sorgen.

1728
01:25:33,263 --> 01:25:36,263
It's not so that they don't stand up and think, I need Bitcoin.

1729
01:25:36,263 --> 01:25:38,503
Their Sorgen and Gedanken are different.

1730
01:25:38,503 --> 01:25:40,823
We come and say, you don't have to accept it.

1731
01:25:40,823 --> 01:25:42,823
And then they think, what should that be?

1732
01:25:42,823 --> 01:25:46,503
But the best is to come to the people on Friday.

1733
01:25:46,503 --> 01:25:50,263
We are with our team, with the EFX.

1734
01:25:50,263 --> 01:25:53,703
We try to move all of those who have not accepted it,

1735
01:25:53,703 --> 01:25:57,383
to move them, to make them with them, to set a QR code.

1736
01:25:57,383 --> 01:26:00,583
So they accept Bitcoin.

1737
01:26:00,583 --> 01:26:05,223
And then we also have to put a lot of water on it.

1738
01:26:05,223 --> 01:26:09,623
We have a bar, which we can buy.

1739
01:26:10,223 --> 01:26:12,223
It would be really cool if we can buy a bar,

1740
01:26:12,223 --> 01:26:15,223
and have people in the Austausch and talk about Bitcoin.

1741
01:26:15,223 --> 01:26:20,223
It's not about people to be able to invest their Altersvorsorge

1742
01:26:20,223 --> 01:26:21,223
in Bitcoin.

1743
01:26:21,223 --> 01:26:25,223
Or that they can buy a mega-weighted price.

1744
01:26:25,223 --> 01:26:29,223
It's just about them to experience it, to see how it works.

1745
01:26:29,223 --> 01:26:32,223
We do it so, that we haven't done it yet.

1746
01:26:32,223 --> 01:26:34,223
We'll be live on the meetup.

1747
01:26:34,223 --> 01:26:36,223
Friday,

1748
01:26:36,223 --> 01:26:38,223
up.

1749
01:26:38,223 --> 01:26:40,223
Up 16.00.

1750
01:26:40,223 --> 01:26:42,223
Up 4.00.

1751
01:26:42,223 --> 01:26:44,223
We'll see who there is.

1752
01:26:44,223 --> 01:26:46,223
You can see the orange Zelt.

1753
01:26:46,223 --> 01:26:48,223
Neben the bar is the

1754
01:26:48,223 --> 01:26:50,223
Bitcoin Bar.

1755
01:26:50,223 --> 01:26:52,223
We have a beer bar.

1756
01:26:52,223 --> 01:26:54,223
That's our big bar.

1757
01:26:54,223 --> 01:26:56,223
We can come with that.

1758
01:26:56,223 --> 01:26:58,223
We can test a little bit

1759
01:26:58,223 --> 01:27:00,223
how it works.

1760
01:27:00,223 --> 01:27:01,263
and how it works.

1761
01:27:02,043 --> 01:27:02,423
That's great.

1762
01:27:02,763 --> 01:27:03,483
I'm going to enjoy it.

1763
01:27:03,703 --> 01:27:04,583
That's cool.

1764
01:27:04,623 --> 01:27:04,823
Cool.

1765
01:27:05,523 --> 01:27:05,703
Also,

1766
01:27:07,023 --> 01:27:07,423
when is that?

1767
01:27:07,543 --> 01:27:09,103
Is that 9th or 8th?

1768
01:27:09,503 --> 01:27:10,883
That's the 8th.

1769
01:27:11,243 --> 01:27:11,703
8th August.

1770
01:27:11,703 --> 01:27:12,883
8th August is the Friday.

1771
01:27:14,683 --> 01:27:16,283
At 16.00

1772
01:27:16,283 --> 01:27:17,523
starts the festival already.

1773
01:27:18,183 --> 01:27:19,163
That's the end of the day

1774
01:27:19,163 --> 01:27:21,283
is free on Friday.

1775
01:27:22,283 --> 01:27:23,603
On Sunday is the same.

1776
01:27:24,543 --> 01:27:25,403
There is no longer

1777
01:27:25,403 --> 01:27:26,383
and on Sunday

1778
01:27:26,383 --> 01:27:28,243
it costs 20.00

1779
01:27:28,243 --> 01:27:31,603
for the fireworks to see here

1780
01:27:31,603 --> 01:27:32,343
something about Bitcoin.

1781
01:27:32,623 --> 01:27:34,803
Also, there's no price for a big event

1782
01:27:34,803 --> 01:27:38,383
where you can get a little bit of information.

1783
01:27:39,123 --> 01:27:40,063
And it's of course,

1784
01:27:40,583 --> 01:27:43,563
it's a nice place where we can hang together,

1785
01:27:44,263 --> 01:27:45,943
where we can drink a beer,

1786
01:27:46,203 --> 01:27:47,203
a little bit of hang out,

1787
01:27:47,263 --> 01:27:48,183
we can talk about it.

1788
01:27:48,223 --> 01:27:49,103
It's going to be a bit of networking.

1789
01:27:49,223 --> 01:27:51,183
It's the most fun to learn the people.

1790
01:27:51,183 --> 01:27:52,603
And to talk about it.

1791
01:27:53,983 --> 01:27:55,243
In which area is it?

1792
01:27:55,503 --> 01:27:58,083
You have said that the whole festival area

1793
01:27:58,083 --> 01:27:58,803
is really huge.

1794
01:27:59,023 --> 01:28:00,923
That's right at the beginning.

1795
01:28:01,623 --> 01:28:03,303
As a guest sponsor

1796
01:28:03,303 --> 01:28:04,623
you get the best place.

1797
01:28:04,743 --> 01:28:06,983
You come in and you see us on the right side

1798
01:28:06,983 --> 01:28:08,923
with a orange light.

1799
01:28:09,363 --> 01:28:10,883
That means we'll see

1800
01:28:10,883 --> 01:28:12,583
if we have a balloon on the light

1801
01:28:12,583 --> 01:28:14,563
so you can see the orange

1802
01:28:14,563 --> 01:28:16,543
Bitcoin logo of the whole festival

1803
01:28:16,543 --> 01:28:18,363
see. That means you can

1804
01:28:18,363 --> 01:28:19,363
directly come to us.

1805
01:28:20,363 --> 01:28:20,803
Also

1806
01:28:20,803 --> 01:28:24,803
it's perfect for the place.

1807
01:28:25,323 --> 01:28:26,763
I hope that many people

1808
01:28:26,763 --> 01:28:29,003
here with the Biti Sitaro

1809
01:28:29,003 --> 01:28:31,023
onboarding

1810
01:28:31,023 --> 01:28:32,023
and giving them a few shots.

1811
01:28:32,703 --> 01:28:34,223
If you can win a few shots,

1812
01:28:34,223 --> 01:28:34,803
you can come on.

1813
01:28:35,463 --> 01:28:36,703
At the DFX-Stand

1814
01:28:36,703 --> 01:28:38,363
you have a

1815
01:28:38,363 --> 01:28:41,303
Glücksrad and then you can get a few shots

1816
01:28:41,303 --> 01:28:42,603
for a few shots.

1817
01:28:42,843 --> 01:28:43,883
So is the idea.

1818
01:28:44,083 --> 01:28:44,963
Let's see what we can do all this.

1819
01:28:46,343 --> 01:28:47,423
I can do it.

1820
01:28:48,323 --> 01:28:49,143
I'm super excited.

1821
01:28:49,443 --> 01:28:51,383
It will be a different meetup.

1822
01:28:51,523 --> 01:28:53,543
I hope that many people come.

1823
01:28:53,663 --> 01:28:54,903
Many listeners here.

1824
01:28:56,763 --> 01:29:00,003
It will be a cool event and I hope that the weather is good.

1825
01:29:00,483 --> 01:29:02,763
Until now, the last year, when I was here,

1826
01:29:03,763 --> 01:29:07,903
I think we had almost once in the 15th of years a little rain.

1827
01:29:08,343 --> 01:29:09,003
But the rain was again.

1828
01:29:09,623 --> 01:29:13,203
The August is in the most common sense, but we don't know.

1829
01:29:13,803 --> 01:29:14,283
That's true.

1830
01:29:15,663 --> 01:29:18,323
But I hope we can get a great fest here.

1831
01:29:22,323 --> 01:29:24,623
It's not far from the conference place,

1832
01:29:24,623 --> 01:29:27,083
where we are, the people who already are in a conference

1833
01:29:27,083 --> 01:29:28,923
are just running down

1834
01:29:28,923 --> 01:29:30,383
and are already already on the floor.

1835
01:29:31,443 --> 01:29:32,423
So we're going to

1836
01:29:32,423 --> 01:29:34,823
a bit of the Werbeton in the last 3-4

1837
01:29:34,823 --> 01:29:36,503
Wochen here pushen,

1838
01:29:36,563 --> 01:29:37,523
so that we also have the Bitcoiner

1839
01:29:37,523 --> 01:29:39,583
on the stand. We have the opportunity to

1840
01:29:39,583 --> 01:29:40,663
meet so many Bitcoiner together

1841
01:29:40,663 --> 01:29:43,543
to meet and from the conference,

1842
01:29:43,683 --> 01:29:44,303
which we have in April.

1843
01:29:46,063 --> 01:29:46,703
Very cool.

1844
01:29:46,943 --> 01:29:48,103
Ah, who can I do with that?

1845
01:29:48,163 --> 01:29:49,223
Who comes as Speaker?

1846
01:29:49,343 --> 01:29:50,723
I've already got a few,

1847
01:29:50,723 --> 01:29:52,103
even if I haven't so much,

1848
01:29:52,103 --> 01:29:53,163
Wherebum went to college.

1849
01:29:53,183 --> 01:29:55,463
The Alex waves from wearing good eyes.

1850
01:29:55,463 --> 01:29:58,183
In rare are the text

1851
01:29:58,183 --> 01:29:59,183
that is called book

1852
01:29:59,183 --> 01:30:00,323
on Friday we are dead.

1853
01:30:00,323 --> 01:30:04,263
That's nd the has to be the

1854
01:30:04,263 --> 01:30:06,563
test there to be TARY

1855
01:30:06,563 --> 01:30:08,943
and then they'll be turned in

1856
01:30:08,943 --> 01:30:10,283
Alex painting on that,

1857
01:30:10,283 --> 01:30:11,443
who holds the new

1858
01:30:11,463 --> 01:30:13,223
-ANT-BRARMAGE

1859
01:30:13,223 --> 01:30:14,483
on-book and teaches

1860
01:30:14,483 --> 01:30:16,343
why everything is going overweight.

1861
01:30:16,363 --> 01:30:18,803
Cool.

1862
01:30:19,443 --> 01:30:20,443
And then

1863
01:30:20,443 --> 01:30:22,443
Thank you very much.

1864
01:30:22,443 --> 01:30:24,443
It's nice to all you are here.

1865
01:30:24,443 --> 01:30:26,443
It's been a lot of fun.

1866
01:30:26,443 --> 01:30:28,443
I hope you can hear it.

1867
01:30:28,443 --> 01:30:30,443
I saw that a few live

1868
01:30:30,443 --> 01:30:32,443
were in the Twitter space.

1869
01:30:32,443 --> 01:30:34,443
Not at Fountain,

1870
01:30:34,443 --> 01:30:36,443
but that's a technical reason.

1871
01:30:36,443 --> 01:30:38,443
It will be possible.

1872
01:30:38,443 --> 01:30:40,443
Maybe, when it's on Fountain,

1873
01:30:40,443 --> 01:30:42,443
then we'll be right back to Noster.

1874
01:30:42,443 --> 01:30:44,443
Which is also better.

1875
01:30:44,443 --> 01:30:46,443
What I wanted to say is

1876
01:30:46,443 --> 01:30:48,443
I have to say something about my own thing.

1877
01:30:48,443 --> 01:30:49,443
I have a question.

1878
01:30:50,243 --> 01:30:51,643
What is the feedback here?

1879
01:30:52,723 --> 01:30:53,783
Feedback is not much.

1880
01:30:53,783 --> 01:30:54,943
No, no, no, no.

1881
01:30:56,783 --> 01:30:58,203
Gil wrote GM.

1882
01:31:00,423 --> 01:31:02,523
And Sapi asked,

1883
01:31:02,643 --> 01:31:03,643
he said that it wasn't on Fountain.

1884
01:31:04,143 --> 01:31:06,283
But I saw that there were a few of them

1885
01:31:06,283 --> 01:31:07,463
who listened to me.

1886
01:31:08,243 --> 01:31:09,323
Thank you very much.

1887
01:31:10,243 --> 01:31:11,523
And then I have another thing.

1888
01:31:12,403 --> 01:31:14,483
And it's new possible,

1889
01:31:14,643 --> 01:31:16,123
that you can also be able to

1890
01:31:16,123 --> 01:31:17,243
on Fountain. You can also subscribe

1891
01:31:17,243 --> 01:31:19,443
for a little subscription.

1892
01:31:19,663 --> 01:31:20,683
Five dollars a month,

1893
01:31:20,803 --> 01:31:21,743
payable in Bitcoin,

1894
01:31:21,863 --> 01:31:22,503
but also in Fiat,

1895
01:31:22,583 --> 01:31:23,003
if you want.

1896
01:31:24,523 --> 01:31:25,603
Just so that the podcast

1897
01:31:25,603 --> 01:31:26,923
will be more than a podcast.

1898
01:31:28,023 --> 01:31:31,243
I will not be more than a podcast

1899
01:31:31,243 --> 01:31:32,183
like other podcasts.

1900
01:31:32,323 --> 01:31:33,563
I think that's always very bad.

1901
01:31:33,943 --> 01:31:35,263
Come, we'll make a bit of a bit of a podcast.

1902
01:31:35,263 --> 01:31:36,603
You're just a bit of a podcast.

1903
01:31:37,643 --> 01:31:38,363
Thank you very much.

1904
01:31:38,483 --> 01:31:40,783
And you'll need a bit of a podcast here.

1905
01:31:43,083 --> 01:31:43,443
Exactly.

1906
01:31:44,763 --> 01:31:46,103
The goal is just that I have a bit of a

1907
01:31:46,103 --> 01:31:49,863
I can greet you with a good quality.

1908
01:31:51,603 --> 01:31:52,883
Thank you very much for listening.

1909
01:31:52,983 --> 01:31:55,303
Thank you very much for your support in the past.

1910
01:31:55,303 --> 01:31:57,303
With Boosts, with Streaming-Sets etc.

1911
01:31:58,443 --> 01:32:00,843
Look at these three Jungs.

1912
01:32:01,463 --> 01:32:03,503
One is the Fantastico,

1913
01:32:04,023 --> 01:32:05,063
one is the Spar.

1914
01:32:05,143 --> 01:32:06,903
I think it's enough.

1915
01:32:07,303 --> 01:32:08,823
We can also link the Maps,

1916
01:32:08,923 --> 01:32:10,623
where all Spars are listed,

1917
01:32:10,703 --> 01:32:12,043
which I can accept.

1918
01:32:12,043 --> 01:32:14,043
of course.

1919
01:32:14,043 --> 01:32:18,043
We have also talked about Tino's blog, which we had last time in the episode.

1920
01:32:18,043 --> 01:32:20,043
It's also very exciting to see it.

1921
01:32:20,043 --> 01:32:22,043
And think about it,

1922
01:32:22,043 --> 01:32:24,043
on August 8th, Friday,

1923
01:32:24,043 --> 01:32:26,043
at 16.00,

1924
01:32:26,043 --> 01:32:28,043
at the Orange Zelt in Krützlingen

1925
01:32:28,043 --> 01:32:30,043
at Fantastic World at the Haupteingang.

1926
01:32:30,043 --> 01:32:32,043
Thank you, we're looking forward to you.

1927
01:32:32,043 --> 01:32:34,043
Yes, so.

1928
01:32:34,043 --> 01:32:36,043
Thank you very much.

1929
01:32:36,043 --> 01:32:38,043
And for those who live here were,

1930
01:32:38,043 --> 01:32:40,043
and for the other, a good week.

1931
01:32:40,043 --> 01:33:10,023
Thank you.

1932
01:33:10,043 --> 01:33:12,143
Nothing's gonna break me

1933
01:33:12,143 --> 01:33:13,563
Tried your best

1934
01:33:13,563 --> 01:33:16,183
Shoot that mess right off my chest

1935
01:33:16,183 --> 01:33:20,063
Don't admit that you got me hurt

1936
01:33:20,063 --> 01:33:22,303
Pick myself up off the dirt

1937
01:33:22,303 --> 01:33:24,743
Nothing's gonna hold me down

1938
01:33:24,743 --> 01:33:28,963
Tried to kill me with the things you did

1939
01:33:28,963 --> 01:33:30,243
Things you said

1940
01:33:30,243 --> 01:33:33,503
Messing with my head

1941
01:33:33,503 --> 01:33:37,583
Set me up for the slaughter

1942
01:33:37,583 --> 01:33:44,843
I'm gonna keep on rolling, I'll roll.

1943
01:33:44,895 --> 01:33:48,535
Rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rhythm

1944
01:33:48,535 --> 01:33:52,875
gotta keep on beat

1945
01:33:52,875 --> 01:33:54,035
Rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'

1946
01:33:54,035 --> 01:33:54,935
rolls, rollin', rollin'

1947
01:33:54,955 --> 01:33:56,695
rollin', rollin', rollin'

1948
01:33:56,755 --> 01:33:56,895
rollin'

1949
01:33:57,455 --> 01:34:01,095
like a rollin'

1950
01:34:01,135 --> 01:34:02,015
rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'

1951
01:34:06,075 --> 01:34:06,635
rollin'

1952
01:34:08,855 --> 01:34:09,995
rollin'

1953
01:34:10,455 --> 01:34:12,415
rollin', rollin', や média

1954
01:34:12,435 --> 01:34:14,015
rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin', rollin'

1955
01:34:14,015 --> 01:34:14,415
rollin', rollin', rollin'

1956
01:34:14,415 --> 01:34:22,655
Every wonderland has its price

1957
01:34:22,655 --> 01:34:25,295
So I roll with dice

1958
01:34:25,295 --> 01:34:30,895
Burning with the thunder inside

1959
01:34:30,895 --> 01:34:34,955
Eyes are open wide

1960
01:34:34,955 --> 01:34:40,095
Tried to kill me with the things you did

1961
01:34:40,095 --> 01:34:41,315
Things you said

1962
01:34:41,315 --> 01:34:44,595
Messing with my head

1963
01:34:44,595 --> 01:34:48,755
Set me up for the slaughter

1964
01:34:48,755 --> 01:34:52,375
But like a stone in the water

1965
01:34:52,375 --> 01:34:55,195
I'm gonna keep on rolling

1966
01:34:55,195 --> 01:34:57,455
Rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling

1967
01:34:57,455 --> 01:34:59,695
And rolling, rolling, rolling

1968
01:34:59,695 --> 01:35:04,095
Gotta keep on rolling

1969
01:35:04,095 --> 01:35:06,375
Rolling, rolling, rolling, rolling

1970
01:35:06,375 --> 01:35:08,615
And rolling, rolling, rolling

1971
01:35:08,615 --> 01:35:12,815
Like a rolling snow

1972
01:35:12,815 --> 01:35:21,455
Like a rolling snow

1973
01:35:21,455 --> 01:35:23,455
Like a rolling snow

1974
01:35:23,455 --> 01:35:41,937
Even in the darkest night Sun still gonna rise Know that you will survive

1975
01:35:41,937 --> 01:35:50,477
Come out stronger on the other side

1976
01:35:50,477 --> 01:35:55,237
Keep on rolling, on rolling, rolling, rolling

1977
01:35:55,237 --> 01:35:57,437
On rolling, rolling, rolling

1978
01:35:57,437 --> 01:36:01,397
Gotta keep on

1979
01:36:01,397 --> 01:36:01,897
Rolling

1980
01:36:01,897 --> 01:36:03,197
Rolling

1981
01:36:03,197 --> 01:36:03,517
Rolling

1982
01:36:03,517 --> 01:36:04,157
Rolling

1983
01:36:04,157 --> 01:36:05,017
Rolling

1984
01:36:05,017 --> 01:36:06,657
Rolling

1985
01:36:06,657 --> 01:36:09,497
Like a Roland

1986
01:36:09,497 --> 01:36:10,597
Rolling

1987
01:36:10,597 --> 01:36:11,057
Rolling

1988
01:36:11,057 --> 01:36:11,317
Rolling

1989
01:36:11,317 --> 01:36:12,117
Rolling

1990
01:36:12,117 --> 01:36:16,737
Heading

1991
01:36:16,737 --> 01:36:17,997
Like a Roland

1992
01:36:17,997 --> 01:36:18,957
Rolling

1993
01:36:18,957 --> 01:36:18,977
She

1994
01:36:18,977 --> 01:36:19,077
Rolling

1995
01:36:19,077 --> 01:36:22,517
Sounds

1996
01:36:22,517 --> 01:36:23,017
Rolling

1997
01:36:23,017 --> 01:36:23,217
Rolling

1998
01:36:23,217 --> 01:36:23,917
Rolling

1999
01:36:23,917 --> 01:36:25,297
Rolling

2000
01:36:25,297 --> 01:36:31,837
Never gonna keep me down

2001
01:36:31,837 --> 01:36:33,277
Oh no

2002
01:36:33,277 --> 01:36:39,717
Not gonna play your clown

2003
01:36:39,717 --> 01:36:42,137
Oh no

2004
01:36:55,297 --> 01:37:25,277
guitar solo

2005
01:37:25,297 --> 01:37:28,477
Un integration by