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I'm very bullish on the long-term viability of Bitcoin and I'm pleasantly surprised.

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And I would never have predicted it before we filed it that we were going to see this type of retail.

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So you thought you'd do good but not this good. I thought yes.

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IBit is your ETF over at iShares.

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It's about to overtake Grayscale which was in the business certainly a lot longer.

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You look at the gains since january 11th when it first came about have you ever

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seen this much inflow this quickly into ibid is the fastest growing etf in the history of etfs.

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Music.

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Welcome in to Episode 4 of This Week in Bitcoin, your weekly high-signal Bitcoin news podcast.

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You know, that was Larry Fink, the CEO of BlackRock.

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He's been going on a bit of a victory tour this week. I'll get into why.

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And depending on when you're listening to this, we're about 20,

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22-ish days out from the Bitcoin halving.

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And I promise I won't play this card very often, but as a long-timer in Bitcoin,

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I can say that this halving will be like no other.

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And I'm going to make a case for that today. I'll get you up to date on what's

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going on in the Bitcoin community, some new projects that could replace Lightning

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for everyday users, and more.

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But before we get into all that, I want to set up some context for you.

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There is a tone shift, a definite tone shift, that's been stepping forward each

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week around Bitcoin in the mainstream media.

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You gotta understand that the loudest voices

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used to call bitcoin rat poison that got

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the most attention but now the ceo of

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a 10 trillion asset management company is going around boasting about

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their bitcoin etf and since the announcement of that etf larry's kind of been

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dodgy about what's the market fit why are they doing this and for whatever reason

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i suspect he has many he hasn't come out directly and addressed it.

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But if you take what he says across multiple interviews, you can actually piece

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together why Larry Fink and BlackRock are quite bullish about Bitcoin.

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Larry sat down with Bloomberg Television and talked a little bit about the U.S. debt situation.

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Let's just use a statistic. And I think when I talk about this statistic,

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I get frightened. In the year 2000, the U.S. deficit was $8 trillion.

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Today it's $34 trillion, so 23 years later, we increased our deficit by $26 trillion.

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So for the first 230-odd, 40 years.

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We increased our deficit to $8 trillion, and in the last 23 years,

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we increased it by $26 trillion.

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I think that speaks volumes of what's happening in our country today. day.

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The problem with these type of deficits is and now with and I believe higher

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interest rates for longer,

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the cost of financing our deficits are going to erode more and more of our of

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our disposable income as a country.

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And I do believe there we're getting to a point where our public debt is going

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to start crowding out private capital and we're going to have structurally higher interest rates.

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Now you put that together with what Larry has said in other views,

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say like on Fox Business. There's a lot of merit to it.

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There's a lot of opportunity. It is a great store and this is where you can

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debate. Is it a good store?

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Do you know how it's made? A bunch of computers figure out math problems.

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But there's only, but the issue is if people believe that it can be an asset

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that can be cross-border.

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And let's be clear, if you're in a country where you're fearful of your government

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and maybe this is one of the reason why China has banned it if,

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you're in a government where you're if you're in

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a country where you're fearful of your future fearful of

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your right government or that is Larry identifying a market fit for Bitcoin

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right there I think you have to appreciate that he is telling you that's the

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market and he's also telling you this is the most successful ETF in history

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or you're frightened that your government is is devaluing its currency by too much deficits.

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Like us. I'm not going to go there.

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Got the little elf in the room here.

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You could say this is a great potential long-term store of value.

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You could say that. And it's not like the CEO of BlackRock and other financial

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institutions don't have ears and eyeballs.

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They hear what was recently said by central bankers around the world.

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You know, the fiscal challenges, et cetera, that are there. Yeah,

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so very focused on being cost-effective.

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We actually fund ourselves and then work out what dividend is needed to pay.

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So it's a great business to be in central banking.

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We print money and people believe it. Oh, I believe this is New Zealand.

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Great business to be in. We print money and people believe it.

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It's a great business to be in central banking.

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We print money and people believe it.

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And touch wood. and so it's a slightly different beast. He said touch wood though, so it's all good.

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I mean, if you hear central bankers joking like that and you see the results

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of their monetary policy, I'd be looking for something that is divorced from sovereign risk too.

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And the other aspect that is looming, and I think just the closeness of the

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halving, they can't help themselves.

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They're showing their cards. And if you're not familiar with the Bitcoin halving

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and why it's kind of a big deal and why people are counting down the days,

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Strikes Jack Mollers explains why Bitcoiners as a community care about the halving.

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The halving is a huge deal.

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So just to be clear, everyone is aware of the fixed supply of Bitcoin.

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There will only ever be 21 million, but not all 21 million have been issued to the world yet.

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And so Bitcoin is on a fixed issuance schedule.

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Satoshi programmed when he launched, he or she or they launched Bitcoin on how

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those would be issued out.

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We're at about 19 million out of 21 so far.

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And every 10 minutes, more and more get issued. And the halving is when that

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issuance schedule gets cut in half.

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So the supply, the forced sellers, those that pay money to produce Bitcoins,

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which then have to sell it to pay for their costs, that's going to be halved.

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And so the really simple way to think about it, Ed, is if demand remains the

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same and the Bitcoin sold gets cut in half, it should have an impact on the price to the upside.

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So it's a big event and we're all pretty excited about it. It's something the

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Bitcoiners have cared more and more about as time has gone on and the result

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of the cycles has become more clear.

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What is different about this particular halving cycle is at this time,

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Wall Street is excited about it as well.

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And they're excited about it in a way that is palpable.

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And this is Kathy Wood. She's from ARK Investments. She's a big Bitcoin bull.

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And she explains why Wall Street is excited.

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So the halving. So we'll go from roughly 1.9 percent growth in Bitcoin supply per year down to 0.9%.

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So we will drop below 1% for the first time.

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And if you look at the long-term history of gold, very long-term,

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what you'll find is the average supply growth has been roughly 1%.

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So now Bitcoin supply growth is dropping below the supply growth of gold.

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Gold that is that is a milestone I

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would say and the other difference here

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is when the gold price spikes there's

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usually a mining response and and

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the supply spikes with it that cannot happen

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with Bitcoin so it's quite a different dynamic so

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the halving is that milestone and

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if you look historically after havings it's

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usually been very good for the bitcoin

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price now uh it doesn't happen right away

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happen right away but it doesn't uh now that the market's becoming more efficient

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with etfs it might because think about how many people know even know about

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the having this time around when they didn't even know what bitcoin was four

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years ago. They didn't know what it truly was.

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It's such a small but major point.

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So many people are talking about the halving. Regular plebs,

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influenzas, and folks like Cathie Wood.

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They're all talking about it. Additionally, they're all talking about the supply

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side demand that the ETFs are bringing.

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And this narrative, they love this narrative. Did you catch it?

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It was in there and And Wall Street just loves it. I've been seeing it in the

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financial press every single day.

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After the halving, Bitcoin has a lower inflation rate than gold.

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And, you know, it has a few better features than gold, too. And it's finding a wider audience.

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And if I can just throw one in, in terms of how we try and describe what this

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monetary revolution is.

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And each one of these words is important. The first...

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Global, that's critical. Private, no government oversight.

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Digital, decentralized, rules-based monetary system in history.

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It is what my mentor, and many people know Art Laffer for his Laffer Curve and

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fiscal policy and so forth.

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He's a monetary scholar as well. And he said, I have been waiting for this for

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50 years, ever since they closed the gold window here in the United States in 1971.

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He's been waiting it for 50 years. He's not the only one.

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So when you combine that with the hodlers that just are not selling and the

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ETFs that are, quote, efficiently snapping up Bitcoin, it's going to be a different halving cycle.

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Bitcoin alone is going to be the biggest part of the entire crypto asset ecosystem. ecosystem.

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Our expectation out in 2030 that... Now I'm going to remind you here,

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Kathy Wood, she's a big bull.

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We don't really know where this is going. In fact, often it goes somewhere opposite

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of what everybody expects, but they have their estimates and I'll let you hear

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them. Just keep in mind, Kathy Wood's a big bull.

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Expectation out in 2030 that it will be

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a 20 trillion dollar

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it will be worth 20 trillion dollars now

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20 trillion dollars i don't know but that

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already right there is if you think about it i mean it runs circles around spy

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number one and i believe all of public equities globally no matter what are

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valued right now at roughly $120 trillion.

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So when I say 20 trillion by 2030, that's a very big.

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Well, we'll see about that. She may be right. I think it's going up forever, Laura.

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Coinbase, well, they're trying to spin it as a big win, but the SEC scored a

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major victory in the initiation of a legal case against Coinbase that they tried to get thrown out.

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The SEC just scored a big win in its lawsuit against Coinbase.

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This morning, a judge rejected the crypto exchange's bid to dismiss the agency's

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claim that Coinbase engaged in unregistered sales of securities.

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That complaint will now head to trial. The regulator first filed suit against

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the crypto company back in June,

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alleging that the firm was acting as an unregistered broker and exchange.

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In the ruling, the judge wrote that the challenged transactions fall comfortably

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within the framework that courts have used to identify securities for nearly

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80 years, and that the SEC adequately alleges that Coinbase,

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through its staking program,

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engaged in the unregistered offer and sale of securities.

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The judge went on to say that the court agreed to dismiss the SEC's claim in

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the lawsuit suit that Coinbase acted as an unregistered broker by making its

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wallet application available to customers.

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That was actually the victory bit that Brian Armstrong, the CEO of Coinbase, was trying to spin.

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He said, quote, great progress on the SEC case and a huge win for self-custodial

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wallets. This ensures the on-chain ecosystem will continue to innovate and create

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economic freedom around the world.

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Basically, they got off the hook for wallet. The court agreed that is not a

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hosted product. product.

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However, what the court said around Solana is fascinating. They said.

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The statements of deflationary policies of Solana are an example of facts that

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support a reasonable expectation of profits from purchases passing the Howey test.

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In other words, they said that, look, here's a team talking about actions they're

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going to take to make this a deflationary protocol. That's central management.

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I'll put a link to that in the show notes. But now off to discovery we go.

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I don't know exactly what we'll discover. If there is anything interesting,

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Hedgehog was announced this week. Now, this is a payment protocol that allows

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two people to pay each other, similar to Lightning, but it has a couple of advantages.

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One of them, no servers required.

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Another, you can do it while one of the other users is offline.

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Super Testnet is the developer of this, and he gives us a little introduction.

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Hey, guys, this is Super Testnet, and today I just wanted to show you my latest

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invention, which is called Hedgehog.

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Hedgehog is a protocol for asynchronous layer to Bitcoin payments.

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So these are kind of like the Lightning Network. This is a protocol similar

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to the Lightning Network, in that it's in a layer 2 for Bitcoin payments.

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Only in this one, unlike the Lightning Network, the two parties don't have to

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both be online. It's asynchronous.

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One party can send the other party money when they're offline.

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When the second party is offline.

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So, I want to show you how it works, and to do that, I'm going to show you first...

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I will link you to the YouTube video where he demonstrates it.

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It's working today, because it's using primitives that already exist,

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some of which were created for Lightning. He uses something that I invented,

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I think, I think I invented this, called a revocable connector.

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And I got the idea for revocable connectors from Barak, who invented connectors,

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and from Lightning, which invented revocation scripts.

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Lightning, and that's where I learned about them.

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Alice can spend the money after, you know, some amount of blocks.

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If Bob lends a certain secret created by Alice, he can just spend the money.

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that's known as a connector.

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a connector allows you to say, hey, I'm going to send some money from Alice to Bob.

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because the transaction allowing you to do it consumes UTXO-A as an input.

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to accept it, and the recipient can wait to accept a state change until they

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propose another one. So again, that's kind of neat.

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And you could even see how that could be used in something like Podcasting 2.0

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if the Lightning Network were to become untenable at some point in the future.

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Not saying it will, but it's a very promising project.

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All right, coming up next, your boost, project updates, and a really good clip of the week.

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Thank you so much to Podhome for sponsoring this week in Bitcoin.

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Now, I also want to give a big shout out to our boosters.

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And Adam Curry, the Podfather, is our baller booster this week with 10,000 sats,

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and he loves this week in Bitcoin, his weekly go-to podcast.

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Thank you, Podfather. Appreciate that. that.

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Wartime comes in with 3,333 sats and says, in the morning, I've been digging the show.

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Thank you very much for that. Appreciate that boost from Fountain,

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too, because, of course, puts us up on the chart so others can discover us.

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Jordan Bravo comes in with 10,101 sats. It's over 9,000!

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You mentioned BISC-2 and RoboSats becoming decentralized. To round out that

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topic, let's celebrate the recent release of Decentralized Whirlpool.

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Also, another listener asked for a good beginner resource, I recommend bitcoiner.guide.

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Then click on either beginner or intermediate or advanced accordingly.

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Jordan, bravo. That, my friend, super high signal boost. Thank you very much.

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Really appreciate that. bitcoiner.guide.

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That is really good. Also, yeah, big shout-out to Decentralized Whirlpool.

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I need to read up on that. Appreciate you bringing that to my attention.

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Oppie1984 comes in with 4,000 sats saying, support boost. Coming in hot with

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the boost. Thanks, Oppie.

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Chad F. came in with 3,333 sats, and he just shouts, boost!

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Like a maniac over there. Thank you very much. B-O-O-S-T.

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Adversary17, because that's how you say it, comes in with 8,192 sats saying,

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love the show. Keep them coming. I mean, just close the fucking door. Thank you very much.

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Lazy Locks comes in with 5,000 sats saying it was great hanging out with you

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in the JB crew at scale. Thanks for everything you guys do.

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Lazy Locks, thank you. If we ever have an opportunity again to meet in person,

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you've always got to tell me your booster name.

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I'd like to introduce you to the wife. You know, I'd like to,

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you know, you're a, you're a, you're a celebrity in these parts.

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Oh, and of course, Cultivator came in with a Spaceballs boost, 12,345 sats.

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That's probably, that's probably our baller, but there was no message.

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So the culmination is one, two, three, four, five.

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That's the stupidest culmination I ever heard in my life. Thank you,

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Cultivator. Appreciate that boost. And Gene Bean came in with some leet sats.

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You're doing a good job. With a song suggestion. And we had a bunch of other sats below the 2,000.

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A bunch of other boosts, I should say, below the 2,000 cutoff. We stacked 60,987 sats.

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Not our best week. Lower expectations.

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But there were 16 boosters across 26 boosts. That's a lot for 60,987 sats.

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But I appreciate everybody who supports this show. It is a value-for-value production.

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The idea is if you get a little bit of benefit, if it helps you,

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if it gets you thinking about something, or you want to keep it going,

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you can send a boost in with a message and a little bit of value.

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Of course, value can also be in your time or in your talent.

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The show is brand new, and if you have any suggestions, I always appreciate those as well.

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So thank you, everybody, who boosts in with a new podcast app.

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You can get one of those at podcast apps.

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Music.

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Let's focus on one project update this week, because it's a big one. Albi 3.7.0 is out.

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That's got Safari support, which is nice for Mac users and iOS users,

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but they've greatly improved the Nostr onboarding process, and this matters.

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This matters a lot for just ease of use when you're trying to send messages on Nostr.

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They have improved permissions management in general, presets,

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and kind-based permissions, so hopefully no more annoying Nostr request pop-ups

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if that's how you want it. it.

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They've also integrated stable sets, the Blink stable sets, which is fascinating

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there, and some onboarding improvements.

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I would really encourage you to check out Albi because it is a companion and

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useful in the web Nostra world.

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I think you should start with Albi. Go get comfortable over there.

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There's more coming from the Nostra world that's going to get your interest,

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I suspect. And so you'll wannabe setup.

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So Albi version 3.7.0 is out with NIP44 support, new onboarding flows,

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new icons, multilingual support as well, which is nice to see.

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And like I mentioned, for those of you that really care, it's got Safari support as well.

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You know what? I'm not going to discount that. Safari support's nice.

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Now you got it on your iPad or your internet phone.

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Now our resource of the week and our clip of the week are really going to kind of be the same thing.

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The book that you should check out is Softwar. It is from Jason Lowery.

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And he also has a TEDx talk called The Future of Warfare.

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You may have heard this because there's been some controversy around this talk.

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He got in trouble from the military. He had to take the book down for a bit.

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He had to make some changes.

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But what he had to say in that talk was actually pretty powerful.

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And I'll link to a bit of it that we have online.

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But I'll also just play a few of my favorite moments right now for you.

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And Jason says that history is repeating itself in the halls of D.C.

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And other leadership spots around the world when Bitcoin gets just dismissed as a simple coin.

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I think this technology is going to become critical, that nations are going

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to rely on it to secure their cyberspace, just like they rely on airplanes to secure their airspace.

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And I think most people in this room don't get it yet because they think it's

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just the coin. They think maybe, at best, that it's interesting technology,

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but of no military value whatsoever.

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This has happened before. For hundreds of years, the Chinese alchemists who

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invented black powder thought it was just medicine.

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It took centuries for people to figure out that black powder was useful for

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way more than just medicine, that it would change the game of national security.

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They say that history doesn't repeat. They say that it echoes.

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I think history is echoing right now with this new technology.

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That people think is just a coin. He also sends a warning to nation states,

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don't blame Bitcoin. And if you do, it could deny us access to the future.

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Bitcoin didn't cause a bunch of bankers to do fractional reserve Lindy.

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I think we can all agree about that, right?

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I should mention there is some mic noise of some type in this clip.

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I apologize, but I still think the message is good enough that you want to hear it.

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Bitcoin didn't cause a bunch of bankers to do fractional reserve Lindy.

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I think we can all agree about that, right? Right.

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Bitcoin didn't cause a bunch of bankers to take too much leverage.

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Bitcoin didn't cause bankers to debase savers and to destroy the purchasing

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power of the currency to bail out the bankers who are fractionally reserve lending

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and taking too much leverage.

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Bitcoin didn't kick entire sovereign nations off of an international payment system.

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OK, so we have to keep that in mind. If you're an architect of a financial system,

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then it's your responsibility to not motivate people to leave that financial

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system, which means don't debase them.

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Don't continue bailing out the people who are making the mistakes.

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Don't kick entire sovereign nations off this thing. It's your responsibility

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to not do that if you want to maintain the dominant financial information network.

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Don't blame Bitcoin for your...

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I almost said something bad.

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I'll just leave it at that. Okay. And by the way, if this is more than just a coin, right?

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If this is bit power, if we have no kidding, again, this is theory,

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I could be crazy. I'm relying on other people to evaluate.

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That's how computer science works. Computer theory works.

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If we have no kidding, figured out a way to project power in from through cyberspace,

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a new physical power projection protocol that will transform cybersecurity and national security,

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then blaming Bitcoin to protect your failing hegemony, let's call it for what

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it is, that's not going to help you. It's still going to break down.

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Like your financial system is still going to collapse as long as you keep on

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doing the things that I just said. Okay?

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What you would actually be doing is you would be forfeiting our access as a

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nation to this protocol, to BitPower.

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Okay? You would be denying us access to this future.

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All right, if you made it this far, I have a question for you.

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What is the best day of the week for This Week in Bitcoin to get released?

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My gut tells me Friday is good for the news cycle, but hasn't been great for

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the audience looking at the metrics.

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So I'm playing around with different release days to try to get an idea of what

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works best for everybody.

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I hope maybe some of you are just busy on the weekend. You're just taking the

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weekend off. You're doing stuff. You're not listening to podcasts.

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Maybe that's it. So what is the perfect day to release? Boost it and tell me

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that. And if I get enough responses, I'm going to math it all up and pick from what people say.

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It's just, you know, one of those things that's kind of early in the discovery

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process for a brand new podcast.

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It's just a little baby. Also, please consider telling someone else about this show.

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It is brand new. So word of mouth, that's the best kind of marketing for a podcast.

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And I really appreciate if you can do that.

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You can find links to what I talked about today this week in Bitcoin show and

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then boost in. Tell me what else you'd like to hear. If you thought anything was missed.

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Appreciate that as well. Well, we'd love this to be the number one Bitcoin news

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podcast for the Jupyter Broadcasting community and the entire podcasting 2.0 community.

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And with that said, we have a value for value song this week. We end with Moneymaker.

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This is a song that is created by Two Weeks in Nashville. If you boost in while

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the track plays, 90% of your sats will go to the artist.

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Thank you for joining me this week. See you next week.

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Music.
