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This past Sunday, the Fed dropped interest rates nearly to zero.

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Then, every day last week, it announced emergency lending programs.

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It pledged to spend at least $700 billion supporting mortgages, banks,

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money market mutual funds, corporate bonds, and lending to central banks of

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other countries, because the dollar is the currency of world trade.

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We are being very aggressive. And I think our chairman, Jay Powell,

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has learned from the experience of 2008.

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We're moving much faster than we moved in 2008. We're being more aggressive.

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Is there more we can do? Yes.

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Is there more we may end up doing? Yes. But I think we're being very aggressive.

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And I think that's the right thing.

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Can you characterize everything that the Fed has done this past week as essentially

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flooding the system with money? Yes, exactly.

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And there's no end to your ability to do that? There is no end to our ability to do that.

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Music.

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Welcome in to This Week in Bitcoin, episode 32. My name is Chris.

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That intro clip was Minneapolis Fed Prez Kashkari from a few years ago.

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And I love that clip. We'll get back to him later. But first, a disclaimer, really.

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I hope you brought some water because once again, it's another salty crisp this week.

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The banks really went all in on their Bitcoin attacks.

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And I say this with all proportionality. Nothing I've ever seen in my history

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of following Bitcoin since the early days. Have I seen anything this aggressive and this direct?

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First, it was the European Central Bank. They released a bomb of a paper,

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followed by the Minneapolis Fed dropping a second bomb, a whopper.

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And I've read both, so you don't have to.

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And trust me, you do not need to or want to. I've got the best bits here,

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and it's so frustrating, and it's so thick.

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The language, I'll give you a few quotes, but the language is just something else.

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So let's start with this ECB paper. They released it recently.

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It's called, quote, The Distributional Consequences of Bitcoin.

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It was written by two economists from the ECB.

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It's 29 pages long, and they published it on October 12th, 2024.

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So these two institutional economists argue that the rising Bitcoin price would

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only benefit early HODLers.

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And they say, quote, it would imply a corresponding impoverishment of the rest

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of society, endangering cohesion, stability, and ultimately democracy.

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This is a pretty huge point of view change from the ECB. For years,

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they've just suggested Bitcoin is worth nothing.

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And I think it's also ironic that now they're saying it's going to hurt democracy.

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That's a bit of a load considering Bitcoin has no central controller or issuer,

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and it is freely adopted and controlled and run by the people.

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So it's ironic they call that a threat to democracy. I think we'll get into

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what they really mean later. But I thought maybe first we should zoom out for

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a moment, because we all know that they've belittled Bitcoin for years.

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Just a few years ago, the ECB's Christine Lagarde rolled out all of the standard

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Bitcoin attacks that the bankers have, just sort of rapid fire back to back to back.

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It is a speculative. It's a speculative asset by any account.

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I mean, when you look at the most recent developments upward and now the most

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recent downward trend, for those who had assumed that it might turn into a currency,

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terribly sorry, but this is an asset and it's a highly speculative asset,

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which has conducted some funny business and some interesting and totally reprehensible

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money laundering activity.

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I think that there are criminal investigations that have taken place that I'm

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sure will continue to take place that demonstrate it very clearly.

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And there has to be regulations and this has to be applied and agreed upon.

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It's a matter that needs to be agreed at a global level, because if there is

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an escape, that escape will be used.

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So I think it needs to be to be if anything, it shows that global cooperation,

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multilateral action is absolutely needed, whether it's initiated by the G7,

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moved into the G20 and then enlarged.

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But it's something that needs to be to be addressed.

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And FATAP is clearly an organization that has expanded in that respect.

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I find a couple of things ironic about her statements in there.

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Number one, we just covered the data from the UN itself in episode 30.

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0.34%, 0.34% of all crypto transactions were flagged as potentially illicit.

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Of that 0.34%, nearly all of them are tethered transactions,

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with the most of the rest being USDC.

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Let me tell you, not a great way to do crime.

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Those are not a great way to do crime. But also, I think number two,

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the thing that I find ironic is that Christine Lagarde herself was convicted

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and found guilty in 2016 for a massive government payout scheme to the friend

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of the former French president Nicolas Garkowski, however you say his name,

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She didn't go to jail. It was mostly like, oh, well, she was just kind of negligent.

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She looked the other way.

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She was found guilty, though, for funny business, as she puts it.

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But you heard the core argument in there. You heard her actually say it.

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She said the quiet part out loud.

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It's an escape hatch. So the core argument that the ECB's paper puts forward

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is that, well, they're realizing Bitcoin might not be going away.

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And well, shoot, if Bitcoin's not going away, maybe it's not a bubble.

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And so they argue, well, if that scenario is true, if it's not a bubble,

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well, then we're going to have a problem with rich Bitcoiners because Bitcoiners,

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you know, they're going to be all this rich kind of like buying Ferraris and not producing much.

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They're going to disadvantage all the no coiners out there.

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And the no coiners that come in later are going to have less coin.

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And they argue these early Bitcoiners would be potentially less productive than

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their overall wealth should suggest they are.

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They write, quote, early adopters increase their real wealth and consumption

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at the expense of real wealth and consumption of those who do not hold Bitcoin

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or invest it at only a later stage.

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So it's obvious. They're saying if you buy an asset that goes up in value,

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you're going to have more value than those that don't buy the asset.

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They have a conclusion, though, because clearly there's a problem here that needs to be solved.

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From the paper quote missing out on bitcoin is not merely a lost opportunity

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for wealth accumulation but means real impoverishment compared to a world without

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bitcoin this redistribution of wealth and purchasing power is unlikely to occur

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without detrimental consequences for society.

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So detrimental consequences for society, what might those be?

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We're going to get to that before we do.

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Don't you think it's kind of wild that we're sitting here and we have a paper

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from the ECB right in front of us that tells us that you better get some coin?

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You're going to have problems. But what kind of problems? Well,

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that's the real question, isn't it?

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I just, it feels like this is, by the way, just the perfect paper that any thirsty,

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opportunistic politician or group of politicians needs served up for them on

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a golden platter to run with.

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Authorities will use a Luddite argument to enact harsh taxes on Bitcoin, if not outright bans.

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The authors take a distinctly anti-technology stance. They don't look at Bitcoin

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as a revolutionary breakthrough on par with the internet.

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They argue rather bluntly and absurdly that early adopters simply increased

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their wealth at consumption by taking advantage of those who didn't.

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That's what they say. They increased their wealth and consumption by taking

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advantage of those who come later.

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You know, like when you buy your house, like my grandparents have this beautiful,

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well, my grandpa, only my grandpa now, my grandpa owns this beautiful place,

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beautiful place. It's probably, I don't know, $700,000 in value,

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maybe more now because it's in a nice town here in Washington.

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They bought it for $25,000 back in the 50s. Now we're $700,000.

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That asset went up in value. Although if you charter with the S&P or M2,

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it's a little different story.

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But there's no difference there. But they have a bold proposal to solve this

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new novel problem that Bitcoin has presented, according to them.

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The paper advocates for laws that would either cap Bitcoin's price or eliminate it completely.

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So that way they could prevent what they call a division of society.

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Like I said, I've been holding Bitcoin since 2012. Of all the papers I've looked

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at in my years following Bitcoin, this is the most aggressive stance I've ever seen taken by a bank.

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After years of calling it, you know, a bubble or just for drugs, not worth anything.

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They just have no pretense here.

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All the gloves come off. They say we need to either ban it or tax it.

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They see it as an existential threat and they're willing to fight it by any means necessary.

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And they never make the argument like how it's any different from being an early

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Amazon or Microsoft stockholder.

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You know, they don't really make any arguments about real estate.

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They dance around a core issue.

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There's a real issue underneath all of this. They can't just come out and say.

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But I think all of us have been wising up to their stupid game.

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Well, it's not so stupid, but to their stupid gaslighting.

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You know, they cry for the average no-coiner Joe out there who's going to get

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left behind. while they have implemented a decade-plus of policy that transfers

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wealth and assets to the rich.

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And we've all been watching them do it. Now, the European Central Bank has cut

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interest rates, dropping its key lending rate to zero from 0.05%.

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This was eight years ago when the ECB just went to zero and kept it there for years.

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As part of a package of measures intended to boost the flagging eurozone economy,

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The ECB also slashed its deposit and lending facility rates to minus-point-4

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percent and a quarter of a percent, respectively.

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The central bank added it would expand its bond-buying stimulus program by raising

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monthly purchases to 80-8-0 billion euros from the current 60 and by purchasing corporate bonds.

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The package of measures is deemed more radical than investors had expected and

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follows a stimulus measure announced at the end of last year.

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They can't say the quiet part out loud, which is the reality.

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Their monetary policy has been hurting the middle class. It has been impoverishing

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and creating the widest wealth divide in history.

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They just, they can't say it. Or can they?

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Music.

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It gets even wilder. So then the Federal Reserve Bank of Minneapolis put out

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a paper just a few days after the ECB on October 17th, 2024,

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titled Unique Implementation of Permanent Primary Deficits?

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In the paper, they doubled down on the Fed of Minneapolis's old take that Bitcoin

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is worthless. We've heard this from them before.

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It's a sentiment that the president and CEO of the Federal Reserve,

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Neil Kashkari, has echoed every time he gets a chance, just on October 21st.

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He was in a public setting doing a Q&A, not about crypto, not about Bitcoin,

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but just any time he has, any chance he gets to get on his high horse,

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he takes it. This is just from a couple of days ago.

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Well, you're right. There's a lot of activity that's happening.

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The nature of the economy is changing. And so we're always having to pioneer

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new data sources to give us insight into what's happening.

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I don't think crypto, because almost, I mean, I don't want to,

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you're going to pull my thread on crypto, and I'm going to go off on a little

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speech about crypto, which I don't want to do. But if you force me to, I'll be willing to do it.

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But very few transactions are actually happening on crypto. People are buying

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crypto and they're selling crypto, but they're not paying for goods and services using crypto.

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It almost never happens unless people are buying drugs or other illegal activities.

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Such an old and tired critique. You can tell he's probably a little old and tired, too.

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He hasn't really updated his take. Like, you know, today, towards the end of

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2024, Bitcoin is worth more than the UK pound.

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It's over a trillion in market cap.

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Entire countries have adopted or are adopting it.

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And Kashkari's real boss, BlackRock, their ETF is the most successful ETF launch in history.

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It's done what it took gold five plus years to do in nine months.

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But the paper reveals the real concern, not just the blowhardness that Kashkari

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goes out there and talks about, but what the Fed is really worried about.

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And they finally have said the quiet part out loud. Bitcoin creates an escape

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hatch that prevents governments from running, quote.

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Permanent primary deficits to using normal debt and continue Markov strategies

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for primary deficits to payments and debt holders.

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So in other words, because it is thick, in other words, Bitcoin makes it possible

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for people to escape from continuous debasement.

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They go on to talk about the problems Bitcoin causes for forever debt policies,

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quote, continuous government policies designed for permanent primary deficits

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cannot eliminate an alternative steady state.

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They continue, quote, and the government is forced to balance its budget.

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They go on to say, quote, a legal prohibition against Bitcoin can restore a

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unique implementation of permanent primary deficits.

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In other words, if they ban Bitcoin or we tax the hell out of it,

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it can restore the government's, quote, unique implementation of permanent primary deficits.

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So either tax the hell out of Bitcoin or ban it. And if you don't do that,

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you're not going to be able to run primary deficits that go on forever.

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And what this paper really is from the Minneapolis Federal Reserve is a banker's

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fantasy about prohibiting assets or, you know, somehow getting regulators, somehow these bankers,

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you know, are now influencing policy, probably actually a possible thing.

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And they're getting great, huge, giant, enormous taxes passed on Bitcoin to

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ensure government debt remains the, quote, only risk free security,

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quote, only risk free security.

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That's the goal. The government debt needs to be, quote, the only risk free security.

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Bitcoiners have been focused on Gensler, but they probably should have been

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more worried about Kashgari and this paper.

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It just lays out once again talking points for a thirsty politician.

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And the ironic thing is the paper isn't really about Bitcoin at all.

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I mean, yes, Bitcoin is mentioned, but it's not actually the main focus of the Fed's paper.

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Instead, it's a theoretical study that explores economic scenarios that we're

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obviously hurtling towards.

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Here's what the paper states, quote, We use Bitcoin as a metaphor for private

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sector security that is fixed supply and that is not a claim to any real resources. Okay.

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What they're doing is it's a look at how government deficit strategies are affected

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when there exists, one, an asset with a fixed supply, that's Bitcoin.

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Two, that it isn't issued by the government, Bitcoin again.

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And three, doesn't produce a direct utility flow. Well, I'm going to give that

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a half thing. We'll see about that.

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Bitcoin is the best example they could find when they wanted an asset like this.

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This is a big deal. That's coming from the Minneapolis Federal Reserve.

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We looked for the most independent free market asset that's hard and fixed that

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we could find, and we could find no better example than Bitcoin, is what they're saying.

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And while I hate the conclusions they come to, it kind of does say like Bitcoin

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is the best hedge against inflation and infinite government deficits there is.

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And the Federal Reserve of Minneapolis just confirmed that. Like that's just

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kind of what they just said.

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So I think smart traders are going to read these papers and read Bitcoin as

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the true inflation head that the big banks, the big banks are worried about.

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Because it says right there, like, this is the best thing we could find.

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And if we're looking for people that are going to look for an escape hatch and

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the scenario we see play out, it's Bitcoin.

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And that's going to make us have to balance our budget, guys.

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It's actually a sales pitch.

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Although there will be those that take it and use some of those sentences to attack Bitcoin.

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No doubt about it. I'll have links to both papers if you would like to read

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them, including some responses as well.

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Let's do a quick macro snapshot. The fiat market is a fickle thing.

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it can move the market in dramatic directions for multiple days.

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We've had a couple of those this week. And one of them that I'm going to focus on is Paul Tudor Jones.

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He's, I guess, a billionaire. I think, yeah, he's a billionaire,

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known for his significant contributions to the industry of finance for years now.

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He runs a company called Tudor Investment Corporation, a leading macro hedge

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fund that's been around since 1980.

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Paul made tons of headlines for financial win after financial win throughout the 80s.

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He's also known for rigorous risk management strategies. and he's also considered

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generally pretty keen and to have a technical understanding of the assets that he trades.

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And he shook the wider market this week when he sat down with Andy over at CNBC

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and he talked about the rock and the hard place that the market is in and some

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of the dynamics that I've been talking about and why I think the election has

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been spooking markets and keeping things kind of sloshing.

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President. And I have also, if I'm being honest, primarily because I see the

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polling numbers have clearly moved in this direction.

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You say also, meaning you have, you've repositioned as if former President Trump wins. Yes.

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I have moved in that direction, for sure. And what does that mean?

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It just means more inflation trades, which I'd love to get to.

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But I think it's really important that we frame where we are right now.

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And where we are is an incredible moment in U.S.

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History. And what I really want to talk about is the debt trajectory that we're on.

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So we've gone in the space of 25 short years from debt to GDP at the federal

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level from about 40 percent to almost 100 percent. 60% in 25 years.

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what CBO projects our trajectory to be, as well as what we see as,

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and we're going to project further than CBO.

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So I'm going to show you a chart. This is debt to GDP.

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So CBO says that we go from 98 to 122, I think 124. That's very conservative over the next 10 years.

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If you extrapolate that 30 years, you get to 200 percent debt to GDP.

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And so that's that's something obviously something that that can't go on forever.

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Won't. And the question is, after this election, will there be some point of

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recognition, particularly with all the the tax cuts that are being promised

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by both sides and the spending plans?

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I mean, they're handing out tax cuts like they're Mardi Gras beads, right?

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We're doing tax cuts on everything from tips to toucans. So it's crazy what's being promised.

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After the election, I think the fact that you've got 7% to 8% budget deficits

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as far as the eye can see, the question

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is, will the markets allow either candidate? I think under Trump...

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What he's about to say there, I think, is a great point. So I just will pause

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because he kind of, he does the weave sometimes.

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It doesn't seem like either candidate's tax policies will be accepted by the

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market. They'll react badly.

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And so the candidates will be dissuaged, I suppose.

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You know, they're going to be disincentivized from proposing those things.

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That's what he's trying to say there. The deficit goes up by $500 billion per

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year under Harris's plan.

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It goes up by an additional $600 billion plan per year.

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I have a feeling all those are just pipe dreams. I think the chances of any

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of those being enacted are— You mean that the tax cuts that they're putting

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on the table during the campaign— Those have zero chance of being enacted.

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Their tax plans and probably their budgets, right?

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They're probably all fantasy, which is so much of what economic discussion there

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has been in the election has been, you know, their policies that they probably won't implement.

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But keep in mind, we're not just talking about the U.S. election here.

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What the inflationary forces that he's about to get to affect all of the West.

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The markets will, the debt markets for sure, the treasury market won't tolerate it.

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So why do you think that the treasury market continues to tolerate it now?

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Well, you know, it's so funny because financial crises percolate for years,

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but they blow up in weeks. That's kind of the history of them, right?

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And so for me, this election becomes one of those seminal points where all of a sudden, hmm.

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Let me really think whether this proposition that the U.S.

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Government is making me is something that I actually want to participate in. And I just want to.

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All right, let's pause there for a second. So he shook the market when he started

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talking about how inflation is going to happen. We're going to have issues.

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Some of these budgets aren't going to aren't going to really happen.

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They're not going to pass.

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But then he lays out what I think is really kind of one of the core thesis of.

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This podcast. So I clipped it down to keep the runtime shorter on this one for you.

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But it's definitely worth listening to. Let's talk about taxes.

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OK, because that's how the money is going to get raised one way or the other. Correct.

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We're going to we're going to be broke really quickly unless we get serious

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about dealing with our spending issues.

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And unless we only we can either. I don't know if we'll be able to cut spending that much.

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Sixty percent of our spending are transfer payments that to just to get us to

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the point where we stabilize that the GDP of where it is right now.

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Now, here's what you need to do.

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You need to let the Trump tax cuts expire. That's $390 billion.

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You need to raise the payroll tax on every single working person,

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1%. That's another big slug.

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You'd have to raise the tax rate on the top, I think, probably everyone over $200,000.

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Probably have to raise that to 49.5%. If you do all these things,

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all these things, raise the Social Security from 65 to 70.

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If you do all these things, means tests, Medicare, if you do all these things,

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All you do is you get to a primary balance.

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What that means is you stabilize debt to GDP.

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You're still actually increasing your debt. You're still actually increasing

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it because it excludes the interest costs, which, oh, by the way,

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the interest bill this year is larger than every single line item except Social Security.

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It's larger than defense spending, larger than Medicare.

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I believe it's $1.1 trillion now, so it's actually over a trillion.

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Given all of the things you're saying, are you off buying gold and Bitcoin?

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I think all roads lead to inflation. We're going to end up.

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But does all roads lead to inflation? Therefore, gold is a good investment?

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Is Bitcoin a good investment to you? I'm long gold. I'm long Bitcoin.

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All roads lead to inflation. That's historically the way every civilization

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has gotten out is they've inflated away their debt.

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He says, we're going to have a Minsky moment, which is a sudden and significant

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collapse of asset values that happens after a prolonged period of economic growth

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and increasing speculation.

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He's probably right. Bloomberg released a study on October 19th of the 2020 2025 budget.

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I guess for the first time I've said that out loud. And it's kind of like a first look of sorts.

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And in there, they discuss Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen's idea for a new

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metric in which we can evaluate our debt problem and her brilliant metric for our debt problem.

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Well, interest payments divided by GDP after inflation.

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So let's get this straight. Inflation goes up and their problem magically improves.

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The Fed, if the Fed slashes rates and prices soar, that's even better.

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Your savings becomes worthless? Well, that's part of the plan.

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You see, destroying the value of money isn't the flaw in the system. It's the whole point.

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She's got this whole metric that they're going to cook up, that everybody's

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going to look at, that just makes the debt look better and better if you adjust

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GDP by inflation and do these special numbers and bury your head. in the sand.

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So they clearly have a spending problem. Their own projections show it.

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So what can you do? What can you do to push back against the ECB or the Minneapolis

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Fed or the fact that Janet Yellen is going to cook the books on debt and come

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up with a whole new metric?

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You can take direct action. In this particular case, you can take direct action.

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All you have to do to hedge against a basement, to push back against the ECB

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and their plans to try to ban or tax Bitcoin, hodl through it.

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DCA and hodl into your own cold storage.

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That's it. The more of us that own the Bitcoin directly, the less they can do

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about it. They can't capture any one entity.

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They can't have like a BlackRock ETF fork.

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We've already won. The majority of the Bitcoin is distributed amongst the people.

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All you have to do is just keep hodling. Stack and hodl.

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Music.

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Well, Mikey Saylor likes the coin, really poked the cyber hornet's nest this

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week during a two-part interview on the Markets with Madison YouTube channel.

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He said a few things that have gone viral. But I actually think it's provoking

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a wider self-custody conversation that I want to have with you.

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So first, let's play what Saylor said, do a little breakdown,

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and then get into the conversation that I'm hoping this is provoking.

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If there is more Bitcoin, Bitcoins held with these third-party custodians,

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what risk does that pose, having greater supply held by fewer large institutions?

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Does that increase the risk of seizure and confiscation like we've seen with gold?

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And is that not exactly what Bitcoiners don't want to happen?

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No, I think it's the opposite.

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I think that when the Bitcoin is held by a bunch of crypto anarchists who aren't regulated entities,

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who don't acknowledge government or don't acknowledge taxes or don't acknowledge

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reporting requirements, that increases the risk of seizure.

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You have an OG crypto community who's very hardcore about it.

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But if you look at where all the money is, 99.9% of the money is actually in

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the traditional economy. He's making the argument that traditionally these institutions

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are already trusted for people's assets.

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And I think he is talking more in the context of large institutions and not

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necessarily individual Bitcoiners.

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It's a little hard to tell, though, with the crypto anarchist comment.

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Seems a little unnecessary and a little reductionist.

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But I think the context is he's talking about larger institutions and how,

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well, we already trust them with our savings and our stocks and our gold,

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right? If you consider the Great Depression, I mean, people thought that their

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gold was safe in banks until the executive order of 1933.

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So we're not entirely safe. I mean, I know that's kind of a wild thing to suggest

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may happen again, but history does repeat itself.

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So people's Bitcoin wouldn't be entirely safe. People say that,

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but mostly it's paranoid crypto anarchists that say that. See,

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again, that just seems reductionist.

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Like, is it that big of a stretch to think that the government might seize a

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scarce asset if they blow up the budget, which they're already on the path to

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do and they've done it before?

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Okay, because it's myth and a trope that goes on over and over again.

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But first of all, he didn't really seize the goal. People voluntarily turned in the goal.

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They didn't go and kick in everybody's door, arrest them, shoot them and take

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their goal. That never happened. But is the United States on the Bitcoin standard?

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Maybe we will be soon. But the point really is we're not.

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It's totally not a reasonable comparison. People have these inflammatory tropes

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or inflammatory memes that they use.

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And it's like I say that because I want you to give me your money.

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If you don't trust the bank, then you'll buy my hardware wallet.

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If you don't trust this government, you'll move to my country and you'll buy a passport from me.

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That's the kind of fear mongering to get you to give me your money. Right.

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And I use it to sell you a gun, to sell you a hardware wallet,

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to sell you an account, to sell you a financial advisor, to sell you an insurance

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policy, to sell you, you know, fill in the blank. I think he actually is selling us something.

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You know, I think what this is hopefully provoking is the value around Bitcoin's

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ability to be self-custodied and why that is so critical.

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Saylor himself has acknowledged the value around that. Churchill seized the gold.

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Roosevelt seized the gold. If you'd lived in Germany, you would have had your

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gold seized multiple times. In Japan, they lost it two or three times.

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In Russia, you know, count the number of times.

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So there's nowhere on earth where you could have kept your gold.

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In fact, you could find lots of clips of Saylor talking about why it's so important

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that you can self-custody Bitcoin.

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I think he's got a dream of becoming a Bitcoin bank of some kind.

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And one day he might just be asking for people to custody their Bitcoin with

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whatever firm he'll do this with.

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So like any kind of sly like a fox businessman, I think he's getting ahead of that.

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He's changing his tune now, so there'll be clips of him saying just this when

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he announces some sort of like Bitcoin bank program.

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You know, it's a shame, though, and it's embarrassing for him because on the

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first page, in the second sentence of Satoshi's white paper,

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it says, quote, the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still

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required to prevent double spending.

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He says right in there, in the second sentence on the first page,

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the main benefits are lost if a trusted third party is still required.

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It's core to what Bitcoin is.

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And his arguments that no one knocked down doors over Executive Order 6102 are a bit specious.

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People were compelled to hand over their gold just like they're compelled to

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pay taxes and follow local laws.

439
00:31:12,929 --> 00:31:18,909
And if they didn't comply and they were discovered, they could potentially spend

440
00:31:18,909 --> 00:31:20,629
time in jail. Some individuals did.

441
00:31:21,149 --> 00:31:26,529
Others were fined with an inflation-adjusted equivalent of about $230,000 if

442
00:31:26,529 --> 00:31:28,389
they were caught with more than just gold jewelry.

443
00:31:28,969 --> 00:31:32,449
But the reality is the majority of the gold that was taken, that was confiscated,

444
00:31:32,669 --> 00:31:36,049
was taken from institutions where gold was being held.

445
00:31:36,529 --> 00:31:42,989
The institutions just handed it over, which is, again, another solid argument for self-custody.

446
00:31:43,109 --> 00:31:45,049
Because history does tend to rhyme.

447
00:31:45,209 --> 00:31:48,409
And, you know, if you zoom out 30 years, who knows where this thing goes?

448
00:31:48,829 --> 00:31:51,049
They don't even need to physically take it from you, though, do they?

449
00:31:51,489 --> 00:31:57,669
I think maybe a rhyme of history would be they require Bitcoin be held by approved institutions.

450
00:31:58,469 --> 00:31:59,729
That they keep it locked up there

451
00:31:59,729 --> 00:32:03,009
indefinitely, essentially reducing its utility and reducing its value.

452
00:32:04,109 --> 00:32:06,509
That would be one way to control it or to tax the hell out of it.

453
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:11,359
But I think you would be doing much more harm to the economy than you'd be doing

454
00:32:11,359 --> 00:32:15,219
good. Because this thing could be an engine for future growth.

455
00:32:15,879 --> 00:32:18,839
I don't think that means that we have to be self-custody maxis.

456
00:32:19,279 --> 00:32:20,999
You know, I mean, I've been thinking about this.

457
00:32:21,099 --> 00:32:23,619
The sailors have been going and getting this has been getting spread around.

458
00:32:23,959 --> 00:32:25,239
A lot of people have been commenting on it.

459
00:32:25,679 --> 00:32:29,359
Because I'm seriously considering a custody service for Jupiter Broadcasting's Bitcoin.

460
00:32:30,159 --> 00:32:33,119
Something that could be managed by multiple people in the company if needed.

461
00:32:33,379 --> 00:32:36,379
Or it could be accessed if something happened to me or I retired.

462
00:32:37,299 --> 00:32:42,899
Ideally a service that could helpfully generate tax documents when we need them at tax time.

463
00:32:43,379 --> 00:32:46,599
Things that businesses need. Multi-custody, that kind of stuff.

464
00:32:47,159 --> 00:32:50,219
So I think there is maybe a space for some custodial services.

465
00:32:50,779 --> 00:32:53,679
But what do you think? Is that a mistake? I'd like to know your opinion.

466
00:32:54,179 --> 00:32:55,419
Would you please boost in?

467
00:32:57,079 --> 00:33:00,779
I'd like to know your thoughts. If you have a staunch self-custody argument

468
00:33:00,779 --> 00:33:04,739
for a business or for an individual, please do send it in. or if you got an

469
00:33:04,739 --> 00:33:08,139
argument for a custodial service, why maybe some folks should use custodial

470
00:33:08,139 --> 00:33:09,159
services, boost that in.

471
00:33:09,659 --> 00:33:12,939
I'm considering that as we get closer and closer to the end of the year,

472
00:33:13,019 --> 00:33:14,459
what I want to do for Jupiter Broadcasting.

473
00:33:14,739 --> 00:33:18,079
Also, I'd love to hear your reaction to Mikey like the coin sailors new tune.

474
00:33:18,619 --> 00:33:21,159
Did you think he was Batman and now he turns out to be two face?

475
00:33:21,759 --> 00:33:25,739
Have we let a fox into the hen house? Boost in and let me know.

476
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:38,800
Music.

477
00:33:38,644 --> 00:33:41,364
All right, coming up, your boosts, a couple of crazy Bitcoin ads.

478
00:33:41,464 --> 00:33:45,224
You won't believe the money that's getting spent. Some project updates, a big one too.

479
00:33:45,704 --> 00:33:50,624
Final clip of the week and a state of the network. So shout out to my affiliates, River.

480
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I'll have more on them in a moment, but if you're in the States,

481
00:33:53,484 --> 00:33:55,824
I think the best company to stack your coins

482
00:33:56,224 --> 00:34:00,504
with a secure Bitcoin-only platform where you can verify how many Bitcoin they

483
00:34:00,504 --> 00:34:03,024
have on the platform, make sure they have the reserves they have,

484
00:34:03,424 --> 00:34:06,064
and you can withdraw over Lightning to maintain your privacy.

485
00:34:06,944 --> 00:34:09,564
And the fees, they're great. Everything's great about River.

486
00:34:09,624 --> 00:34:11,404
I'll get more into it in a little bit. But I also want to mention,

487
00:34:11,504 --> 00:34:13,484
if you want to spend Bitcoin, holidays are coming up.

488
00:34:13,944 --> 00:34:16,824
Maybe you want to blast some sats over Lightning. The Bitcoin Company,

489
00:34:16,964 --> 00:34:19,424
use my promo code Jupiter or use the link in the notes.

490
00:34:20,284 --> 00:34:22,344
Gets you some sats, gets the show some sats.

491
00:34:23,464 --> 00:34:26,324
And it's a great way to spend your sats on Lightning.

492
00:34:26,644 --> 00:34:29,204
Super quick into any kind of gift card. They got hundreds of them.

493
00:34:29,304 --> 00:34:32,444
That's the BitcoinCompany.com, promo code Jupiter.

494
00:34:32,704 --> 00:34:35,884
And you can use those affiliate links as a way to support the show. or of

495
00:34:35,884 --> 00:34:38,624
course you can boost in like so many great folks out there

496
00:34:38,624 --> 00:34:42,904
do thank you to everybody who boosts into the show and our

497
00:34:42,904 --> 00:34:50,384
first boost this week comes from mr pod home himself aka barry with no message

498
00:34:50,384 --> 00:34:55,844
but 8 000 sats i don't know if they're supposed to be a message in there thank

499
00:34:55,844 --> 00:34:59,364
you pod home appreciate the support it is our hosting platform of choice,

500
00:34:59,844 --> 00:35:03,704
open source accountant is back it's been i think a week or two nice to hear

501
00:35:03,704 --> 00:35:05,384
from him with 2,000 sets.

502
00:35:06,384 --> 00:35:10,264
I would love a whole episode about how you acquire, move, and secure your Bitcoin.

503
00:35:10,604 --> 00:35:14,404
It'd be great to share with local small business owners who are Bitcoin carriers

504
00:35:14,404 --> 00:35:17,364
but still can't wrap their head around the process. Hmm.

505
00:35:18,104 --> 00:35:21,944
Something that could be consumed by a newbie complete. I'd have to think about

506
00:35:21,944 --> 00:35:25,564
that. That would have to be probably a dedicated thing. Maybe a holiday special.

507
00:35:26,304 --> 00:35:29,504
Keep brainstorming, open source accountant. I don't know if I 100% have it in

508
00:35:29,504 --> 00:35:31,124
my head yet, but I could see it.

509
00:35:31,264 --> 00:35:35,084
It could be a nice solution for the holidays, do a little prerecord,

510
00:35:35,184 --> 00:35:36,704
something you can share with family around that time.

511
00:35:38,095 --> 00:35:41,815
Let's keep brainstorming. Anonymous comes in with 5,000 sats. You suppose.

512
00:35:42,315 --> 00:35:44,835
I heard about the show from the Podfather on Podcasting 2.0.

513
00:35:45,255 --> 00:35:48,995
I've been listening to every episode since. Well, thank you very much for sending back some value.

514
00:35:49,815 --> 00:35:56,395
Appreciate that shout out to the Podfather. Oppie 1984 is here again with 4,000 sats.

515
00:35:57,695 --> 00:36:01,555
If John Deaton and his team were smart, they'd make a political ad with the

516
00:36:01,555 --> 00:36:05,495
audio of Liz saying who she wants to keep crypto away from. and then show a

517
00:36:05,495 --> 00:36:08,875
picture of each group with American dollars as she lists them.

518
00:36:09,155 --> 00:36:12,915
He doesn't stand a chance of winning, but he can at least tear down a bit and

519
00:36:12,915 --> 00:36:16,035
maybe limit the amount of damage he can do. I hope so, Oppie.

520
00:36:16,675 --> 00:36:19,415
I think it's a shame that the way Liz has been able to lie through her teeth

521
00:36:19,415 --> 00:36:23,035
to people and claim that she's trying to help them while working hand in glove

522
00:36:23,035 --> 00:36:24,555
with the bankers and the SEC.

523
00:36:25,255 --> 00:36:28,515
It's been obvious to anybody paying attention, but if you're not paying attention

524
00:36:28,515 --> 00:36:30,475
to the stuff behind the scenes and you just listen to what she says,

525
00:36:31,295 --> 00:36:33,275
she is a top-rate gaslighter.

526
00:36:34,035 --> 00:36:37,775
Thank you for the boost. Ace Ackerman comes in with a row of ducks.

527
00:36:38,655 --> 00:36:43,575
Just says boost. Boost. Thank you, Ace. Nice to hear from you.

528
00:36:44,275 --> 00:36:48,875
Tomatoes in with 9,001 sats. It's over 9,000!

529
00:36:49,535 --> 00:36:53,095
Thanks for all the newbie content. It's helped. It helped me get oriented in Bitcoin.

530
00:36:53,575 --> 00:36:56,795
I just put my first million sats through Liquid onto a cold card.

531
00:36:56,895 --> 00:37:00,215
I thought I'd weigh in on the question of retirement from a European perspective.

532
00:37:00,535 --> 00:37:04,415
Well, first of all, congrats and thank you. He writes, I'm primarily counting

533
00:37:04,415 --> 00:37:09,395
on the stage of retirement plan combined with a small complimentary private pension.

534
00:37:09,675 --> 00:37:13,655
Oh, state. Right. The state plan. I got you. I have long-term savings in things

535
00:37:13,655 --> 00:37:18,715
like stocks and investment plans, which have interesting tax breaks there. Okay.

536
00:37:19,735 --> 00:37:22,955
And we own our own apartment, which in a pinch could be sold.

537
00:37:23,195 --> 00:37:26,155
Yep. And we bought it with the intention of keeping it to live in though.

538
00:37:26,435 --> 00:37:28,635
So a little bit of stocks, a little bit of property, a little bit of Bitcoin.

539
00:37:28,895 --> 00:37:30,935
That seems like a pretty good little distribution there, Tomato.

540
00:37:31,135 --> 00:37:35,035
Very reasonable. I think a sensible distribution you might see.

541
00:37:35,195 --> 00:37:36,975
A sensible, zesty drink.

542
00:37:37,155 --> 00:37:39,295
I need a zesty drink. Thank you for the boost.

543
00:37:40,275 --> 00:37:42,435
That's all our boosts above 2,000 sats this week.

544
00:37:43,535 --> 00:37:47,375
Yep. It's a quick boost segment, I suppose, so that's kind of nice.

545
00:37:48,015 --> 00:37:54,335
So we had eight people boost in. We stacked 31,556 sats with the boost.

546
00:37:54,635 --> 00:37:58,635
The streamers, though, did pick up the slack this week. They came in as our

547
00:37:58,635 --> 00:38:01,415
champs. We had 43 of you out there streaming sats as you listen.

548
00:38:01,775 --> 00:38:08,475
So together, you all stacked 59,933 sats, which brings this show's total to...

549
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Music.

550
00:38:16,802 --> 00:38:22,962
91,489 sats, which not a great week. Not a great week for the show.

551
00:38:23,702 --> 00:38:27,102
Maybe, you know, maybe it's a sort of a statement on the episode.

552
00:38:27,242 --> 00:38:29,982
So boost in with ideas to get the boost up if you have any. I know that sounds

553
00:38:29,982 --> 00:38:35,182
odd, but I'm so heads down on content. I think sometimes I don't focus on that enough.

554
00:38:35,302 --> 00:38:38,862
So I could use some help in that area. And I think unless something big breaks,

555
00:38:39,042 --> 00:38:43,942
I might take next week off just to make room and I have a super busy schedule

556
00:38:43,942 --> 00:38:46,922
and I think, you know, I could be wrong, but I think there's just going to be

557
00:38:46,922 --> 00:38:49,922
a lot more election stuff as we get closer.

558
00:38:50,122 --> 00:38:53,882
And I suspect that might've turned some of you off last week because as we get

559
00:38:53,882 --> 00:38:57,562
a little bit closer to the big day, it's kind of what the news is all about.

560
00:38:57,622 --> 00:39:00,742
And I tried to keep it away from all the top of the show as much as I could,

561
00:39:00,842 --> 00:39:02,422
but it even sneaks in a little bit here and there.

562
00:39:02,922 --> 00:39:05,742
So I think that's turned some people off. And so it's likely just going to be,

563
00:39:05,862 --> 00:39:06,982
you know, more news like that.

564
00:39:07,082 --> 00:39:12,782
So I might take next week off unless something really major breaks. It's always possible.

565
00:39:13,522 --> 00:39:16,062
You never know. I mean, it's kind of a crazy time right now,

566
00:39:16,082 --> 00:39:19,422
but I think I'll probably, uh, I'll probably just be heads down.

567
00:39:19,702 --> 00:39:22,482
Thank you everybody who does support the show though. I do really appreciate

568
00:39:22,482 --> 00:39:26,682
it. And if you'd like to boost in, just get a new podcast app at podcastapps.com.

569
00:39:26,822 --> 00:39:29,762
You can set up something like Fountain or Cast-O-Matic in no time.

570
00:39:29,840 --> 00:39:45,840
Music.

571
00:39:45,202 --> 00:39:48,942
All right, let's drive a few more folks away. Although I hope for this story,

572
00:39:48,942 --> 00:39:53,882
we can turn off our political brains and we can turn on our Bitcoin historical

573
00:39:53,882 --> 00:39:55,602
perspective brains, right? Clonk.

574
00:39:56,402 --> 00:39:59,602
Clonk. Did you get it there? Here you go. Wait, you got to push that.

575
00:40:00,102 --> 00:40:01,342
There you go. Now it's in place.

576
00:40:02,242 --> 00:40:07,922
So this week, the Bitcoin, the Bitcoin, the Bitcoin, geez, I don't know what my problem is.

577
00:40:08,442 --> 00:40:13,422
The Bitcoin Voter Pack, which is the spending arm of the digital coin advocacy

578
00:40:13,422 --> 00:40:16,122
group, the Bitcoin Voter Project,

579
00:40:16,682 --> 00:40:21,782
launched three digital ads aimed at swing voters in Pennsylvania and Texas to

580
00:40:21,782 --> 00:40:26,002
sway races towards candidates who support the mainstreaming of digital assets

581
00:40:26,002 --> 00:40:28,602
and, you probably guessed it, Bitcoin mining.

582
00:40:28,602 --> 00:40:35,442
The ads represent a total of $2 million aimed at identifying and educating and

583
00:40:35,442 --> 00:40:40,722
mobilizing pro-Bitcoin voters in key swing states.

584
00:40:40,982 --> 00:40:44,582
So they're spending $2 million in various different places and more.

585
00:40:45,282 --> 00:40:48,782
I think a total now of $130 million.

586
00:40:49,502 --> 00:40:55,302
But $2 million of that is just targeting pro-Bitcoin voters in swing states.

587
00:40:55,902 --> 00:40:59,982
The funding comes from Riot, Marathon Digital, and CleanSpark.

588
00:41:00,082 --> 00:41:03,702
They're the three top, well, three out of the top five miners out there.

589
00:41:03,782 --> 00:41:05,802
There's some others, but like out of the top five, they're like the top three,

590
00:41:05,882 --> 00:41:07,642
I guess. They're the top three mining companies in the States.

591
00:41:08,649 --> 00:41:12,729
And they're dumping money into these very key states.

592
00:41:13,149 --> 00:41:15,929
And I got a couple of clips that I thought would set it up for us.

593
00:41:15,949 --> 00:41:19,749
And this one gives you an idea of the money being spent and where it's getting spent.

594
00:41:20,129 --> 00:41:24,449
Hey, Tyler. So with two weeks to go into the general, fresh election data for

595
00:41:24,449 --> 00:41:28,849
September shows that crypto PAC money is focused on close house races as part

596
00:41:28,849 --> 00:41:32,789
of an effort to push candidates favorable to the group's agenda over the top.

597
00:41:32,789 --> 00:41:36,829
Now, Fairshake, which is the leading pro-crypto super PAC and one of the top

598
00:41:36,829 --> 00:41:41,549
spenders across any industry this election cycle, has funneled a big chunk of

599
00:41:41,549 --> 00:41:47,529
its final donations to close house races in eight states, including New York, Nevada and California.

600
00:41:47,529 --> 00:41:51,989
And several of those races are considered toss ups by the Cook Political Report.

601
00:41:51,989 --> 00:41:55,909
And more than 70 percent of those donations are going to Democratic candidates.

602
00:41:55,909 --> 00:42:00,989
Now, all in, crypto groups have spent over $130 million in congressional races

603
00:42:00,989 --> 00:42:03,449
for this year's election, including the primaries.

604
00:42:03,529 --> 00:42:06,329
And what I will say is that a lot of that money, it's going to Senate races.

605
00:42:06,569 --> 00:42:10,269
Well, I was going to ask you, is the Senate figure in this at all and who's collecting there?

606
00:42:10,449 --> 00:42:14,709
So you had $10 million apiece going to the candidates in Michigan and Arizona.

607
00:42:14,949 --> 00:42:18,709
And then overwhelmingly, the vast majority of this money, $40 million going

608
00:42:18,709 --> 00:42:22,449
to vote out of the Senate banking chair, Sherrod Brown, who hasn't been very

609
00:42:22,449 --> 00:42:24,349
favorable to the industry. Wow.

610
00:42:24,749 --> 00:42:28,249
Wow. Wow. Yeah, it's almost like it's an industry that's been under political attack constantly.

611
00:42:28,889 --> 00:42:33,289
So the Bitcoin pack, the one I was mentioning, just ran a couple of these ads.

612
00:42:33,529 --> 00:42:36,209
And again, historical brain, not political brain.

613
00:42:36,729 --> 00:42:38,669
Let's look at a couple of them because they sort of...

614
00:42:39,482 --> 00:42:44,102
They do position a candidate, no doubt about that. But they also talk positively

615
00:42:44,102 --> 00:42:47,242
about Bitcoin. I think it's kind of an interesting time we find ourselves in.

616
00:42:47,982 --> 00:42:54,022
America's financial freedom is under attack, but Texas has a champion in their corner.

617
00:42:54,342 --> 00:43:00,462
I want Texas to be the oasis on planet Earth for Bitcoin and crypto.

618
00:43:00,862 --> 00:43:06,462
Ted Cruz understands that embracing Bitcoin means giving the people more control

619
00:43:06,462 --> 00:43:11,202
over their financial future, not the big banks or the government.

620
00:43:11,562 --> 00:43:15,402
Ted Cruz will fight to make sure your money is your choice.

621
00:43:15,802 --> 00:43:19,882
Secure, decentralized and free from the government.

622
00:43:20,142 --> 00:43:24,982
Vote Senator Ted Cruz leading the charge for Texans financial freedom.

623
00:43:26,482 --> 00:43:32,022
Vote Bitcoin, it says. If the voiceover guy is listening, boost in.

624
00:43:32,122 --> 00:43:34,802
I'd love to work with you. You could read like the quotes on the show.

625
00:43:34,922 --> 00:43:38,022
You know we just play some epic music it'd be great really help

626
00:43:38,022 --> 00:43:41,042
with retention i'm sure so that was their texas ad

627
00:43:41,042 --> 00:43:43,842
now here is the ad they're running in pennsylvania it's a

628
00:43:43,842 --> 00:43:47,082
little bit of a different take in pennsylvania we're

629
00:43:47,082 --> 00:43:52,522
known for our steel our spirit and now our innovation we will ensure that the

630
00:43:52,522 --> 00:43:57,302
future of crypto and bitcoin will be made in america and if america doesn't

631
00:43:57,302 --> 00:44:01,202
embrace it we're going to be left behind bitcoin means more jobs right here

632
00:44:01,202 --> 00:44:03,922
in pennsylvania it's about leading in technology,

633
00:44:04,322 --> 00:44:07,562
securing our financial future and keeping Pennsylvania ahead.

634
00:44:07,802 --> 00:44:11,482
And instead of attacking industries of the future, we will embrace them.

635
00:44:11,602 --> 00:44:16,442
And by embracing it, we can create great jobs, a great source of innovation.

636
00:44:16,442 --> 00:44:19,502
And the national security implications of this are clear.

637
00:44:19,882 --> 00:44:24,362
Vote Donald Trump and Dave McCormick for jobs, for innovation,

638
00:44:24,702 --> 00:44:26,122
for Pennsylvania's future.

639
00:44:28,329 --> 00:44:33,369
Geez, I think they mentioned jobs like three times. National security got mentioned in there.

640
00:44:34,009 --> 00:44:38,309
As we count down to the election, it's amazing to see this money get spent.

641
00:44:38,409 --> 00:44:41,249
And I have some links in the show notes around all of that.

642
00:44:41,449 --> 00:44:44,889
And I'd love to know your thoughts, too, on the coverage of it,

643
00:44:45,109 --> 00:44:49,869
my coverage specifically, but also just how you feel about these PACs spending

644
00:44:49,869 --> 00:44:51,209
money. Like they're getting in the political game.

645
00:44:51,329 --> 00:44:56,729
They're getting, I would imagine, into a business that most Bitcoiners kind of hate.

646
00:44:59,109 --> 00:45:02,449
All right, time for some project updates. This one is so neat.

647
00:45:02,549 --> 00:45:03,969
I can't wait to get back to Denver.

648
00:45:04,969 --> 00:45:10,109
The Space, which is a member-run Bitcoin hub, has announced they are now a Bitcoin citadel.

649
00:45:10,529 --> 00:45:14,429
It's a hub for fostering collaboration, education, and networking for Bitcoin

650
00:45:14,429 --> 00:45:15,689
enthusiasts in Colorado.

651
00:45:17,949 --> 00:45:22,669
Bitcoinnews.com writes, This member-run hub is not just a co-working space.

652
00:45:23,289 --> 00:45:27,309
Well, geez, a co-working space sounds great. They say it's also a thriving ecosystem

653
00:45:27,309 --> 00:45:31,409
focused on collaboration, education, network, and networking for those passionate

654
00:45:31,409 --> 00:45:33,989
about Bitcoin and the principles it stands for.

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So it's The Space, and I'll put a link in the show notes. If you're listening

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and you're in the Denver, Colorado area, go check it out and boost in and tell me how it is.

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And next time I'm in Denver, I'm going to have to check out The Space.

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Now, I mentioned there was also some big news with River.

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River made some big news this week. They've announced a savings account for

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cash that earns Bitcoin dividends.

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So it's interest paid in Bitcoin, essentially. You put cash in an account on

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River and you earn a 3.8 interest rate that they pay out in Sats.

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So they're not generating yield on Bitcoin. They're generating yield on the

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cash. And the cash is FDIC insured up to $250,000.

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And of course, the Bitcoin that you generate, that's all held in reserve proved custody.

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And the user can withdraw the cash at any time. There's no fees, no minimums.

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And it seems like a pretty compelling program. People are really excited about it.

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I'll be honest with you, I probably don't have enough cash to make it worth

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it. But if you are, and I've heard from some of you out there,

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you're still sitting on a big pile of cash.

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You might look at this because, while you can't really safely earn yield on

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Bitcoin, at least with any scheme I've ever seen, there are plenty of them out

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there to earn interest on cash. And that's exactly what River is doing here.

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Try it out. If you do, let me know how it goes, because the feedback I've seen

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on Stack Your News and on social media so far seems to be pretty excited and pretty positive.

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And our final clip of the week is Natalie Burnell.

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She sat down with Charles Payne on Money Matters, and they covered an old prediction

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by Henry Ford, where he advocated for a currency that is tied to energy.

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They're saying that Henry Ford actually predicted Bitcoin. He talked about replacing

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gold with an energy currency.

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By the way, he also said it would stop wars. So your thoughts on this?

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The Henry Ford thing is fascinating.

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I mean, he essentially understood 100 years ago that if you fix the money,

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you can fix the world, Charles. And he lived through World War I,

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and I think he saw the manipulation that happened on what was supposed to be the gold standard.

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He saw that gold can easily be monopolized by powerful bankers and global elites

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to essentially fund endless conflicts through inflation.

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And he believed that energy, which no one can print or manipulate,

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could instead serve as this stable and peaceful foundation for a world currency.

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And that's exactly what Bitcoin offers.

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It redefines money and ties it to the currency of the universe,

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which is energy. And by dematerializing wealth, it introduces the incentive

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for peace and cooperation because there's nothing physical to conquer.

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So I think Ford would have definitely been a Bitcoiner.

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Let's look at the state of the network. As I record, the price of Bitcoin right

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now is $66,320 in the U.S. greenback.

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Sats per dollar is $1,508.

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The price since last episode, well, that's down 2.3%. We're down 10.1% from the all-time high.

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It's been 223 brutal days since the all-time high.

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There are 19,353 reachable Bitcoin nodes today.

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The average fee, as I record, is 12 sats, a V-byte, and the block height, 867,049 blocks.

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There you go. That is the state of the network.

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Thank you for listening to This Week in Bitcoin. If you like this episode,

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links to what I talked about today are thisweekinbitcoin.show.

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And of course, that's also a way you can boost in.

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Now, I probably won't see you next week. So I'm going to leave you with a banger

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of a track. It's Stop, featuring Alex Piñata.

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Music.
