Welcome back, Radio Detox. Going to do something completely different this week. So what I'm going
to do, since I am short on time, is we're going to call this a feed warmer. Okay, this is actually
going to be a little cross promo. I'm going to promote my other podcast. So I have right now at
the moment, let's just say I have three at the moment. So let's just say this is Radio Detox
and I'm going to promote my other podcast, Soapbox Sessions, which is me and Derek Ross
talking about really nerdy shit. But I like this week's episode, especially because I'm giving him
a lot of crap. Okay. So we're going to talk about the new ditto from Soapbox on this episode. We're
going to talk about when AI goes to war, which I think is a really stupid idea. Not that war itself
isn't a stupid idea, but like we don't need to be high tech. Okay. We just don't need to do any of
this. But anyway, that's like a whole other tangent you can hear on Soapbox Sessions. So
feed warmer edition latest episode of soapbox sessions on radio detox this week why your girl
short on time i just don't have any this week so and i want another week to promote the podcast that
i did last week with ivy loomy so if you're not into soapbox sessions and you haven't listened to
last week's episode just jump off and listen to that listen to ivy loomy and zap her music and
boost her music and boost her campaign on geyser fund okay because i'm short on time because at
The moment we're about to kick off the Wrigley block party, by the time this is released,
the only way that you can get into the block party is going to be with your solo miner.
So if you got an ASIC, you got a solo Satoshi, whatever you got, you got a NerdQX, whatever,
bring it to the party.
Okay.
You can find that info on the Wrigley Noster or the Wrigley Twitter.
Okay.
The other reason I'm short on time is we're getting ready for the big party in DC on Sunday.
We've got the Runster District 5K and that's going to be a great K race.
It's definitely Bitcoin and Nostra friendly.
But if you're a normie and you don't know about any of this stuff, you can still join the Runster District 5K.
Maybe make a little money for charity.
That's the goal.
And then we're going to have this nice party at PubKey DC right afterwards.
See who wins the most charity money.
The most runners, you know, for the charity teams, that's how the team is going to win the money, right?
So it could be HRF.
It could be Chimes International.
It could be ALS Network.
could be one of those guys. So sign up for the run, help your favorite charity, pick a charity,
and help them win the money. Then afterwards, or even if you don't run and you're just like,
hey, I want to have a Sunday with like some burgers and some drink specials, head over to
PubKey. Doors open at 10. We've got a great show for you at PubKey. We're going to have my friend
David Tarr. He just dropped new music today. So his new music is on Fountain and it's on Wave
Lake and it's an EP that he just dropped called The Analog. I haven't had time to listen yet. So
I need to do like a whole episode about that. But he is going to do it. He's just going to do it for
me. I'm handing the reins of Radio Detox over to David Tarr on Sunday in D.C. at PubKey. He's going
to do live music. He's going to talk about his new EP. He's going to play his new music, your first
chance to see it live. And that's going to be Sunday in D.C. He's going to be joined by Ainsley
Katie Costello, your first artist who got a million sats over on Wave Lake.
She's going to perform.
Catherine, our favorite soul singer.
God, I can't say she's our favorite because I love Kavinia too.
But one of our favorite soul singers in the space.
Okay, Kavinia, I love you.
Catherine, I love you.
But you can see Catherine this Sunday in Washington, D.C., right after the Runster District 5K at PubKey.
Okay, so go do that.
Okay, and we're going to have a Gen Z panel.
We're going to have David ask the ladies questions.
He's going to talk to Ainsley and Catherine about what it's like to be a Gen Z in Bitcoin
and adopting new technology and putting your music on wave, like putting your music on
fountain.
He's the perfect person to ask that because he's doing it himself.
The Runster District 5K.
We find out who wins the race, which charity wins the race.
We get new music performed by David Tarr.
You get your favorites from Ainsley Costello.
You get your favorites from Catherine, Jim Costello.
I'm sure we can persuade him to get on stage as well.
I will not physically be there.
I couldn't make the trip. That's why I've got David Tarr, the homie. He's going to take over
the reins. So you're still going to get a lot of radio detox this weekend and the coming week.
And of course, the goal is to have a recording of what goes down at PubKey and put it on the
podcast for next week. So we'll see you in DC. If you're on the Club Orange app, I have actually
personally zapped you today. If you are in Washington, DC or New York, got to give the
the shout out to Club Orange app.
I love the GeoZaps.
That is a great idea.
And if you are partaking in the block party,
I probably zapped you today too from Wrigley.
So your turn to zap.
Listen, zap.
This particular episode,
you're just zapping me and Derek.
Like you don't have to zap this episode
because again, this is the feed warmer.
I'm letting Soapbox Sessions have Radio Detox
for the week, okay?
But go, if you want to hear some new music,
Ivy Luby, support her.
Support her on Radio Detox.
support her on Geyser Fund, support her by following her on Nostra, following her on Twitter.
I think you get the idea. So without further ado, you can listen to my other podcast, my other,
other podcast. There's about to be, let me just tell you something, okay? As we're readying the
drop of ditto for the world, not just the testing group, but for the world, as we ready that drop,
we're also readying something else. So there's just maybe like a fourth way for you to get your
overdose of my big smart Bitcoin nostrum mouth. Okay. So I'm not ready to announce that yet.
And there is, if you really dig, you can find my other, other podcast, the meditation podcast. Okay.
Which like, let me just have four podcasts all of a sudden. So yeah, listen to Soapbox sessions,
listen to Radio Detox or don't, if you don't like meditation, don't listen to the, that one either.
But hopefully if you listen to Soapbox sessions that I'm putting on the feed, hopefully you'll
check out Ditto and be a tester because obviously if you're here listening to Radio Detox, you are
into music, you're into new technology, maybe you're even a creator yourself and you're looking
for a better way to just kind of chill with your audience. You know, Ditto is definitely going to
be a big, huge part of that. And I'll just let me and Derek take it over now. Welcome to the
Soapbox Sessions. Imagine this, an open and free internet where voices are never silenced,
where causes aren't shadow banned, and where no one can be deplatformed. It's real, it's here,
and it's happening on Noster. So what exactly is Noster? It's a worldwide community of everyday
people working to decentralize the internet. On Noster, you can build websites, communities,
social networks, apps, and more. One login works everywhere, you own it, and no one can take it
away. No more juggling dozens of platforms, chasing audiences, or managing a giant password list.
And the cherry on top? Noster allows for built-in digital payments that can come from anywhere in
the world. On Noster, value flows as freely as ideas. We're hooked on decentralizing the web,
and we think you will be too. So now let's hear from your hosts, Derek Ross and Heather Larson,
who are working to grow Noster one vibe at a time. Welcome back to Soapbox Sessions. Today
is March 10th, 2026, and we're here with your weekly dose of all things decentralized social
and AI. Soapbox Sessions is our soapbox about what's new, what's cool, and what's coming.
We want to make it easy to understand and keep up with everything happening in the decentralized world of social communication and AI as we work to rebuild the internet one brick at a time.
Yeah, have we done it yet?
Is it complete?
Did we build a new wall of internet?
It's a series of tubes.
I shouldn't have said bricks.
It's a series of tubes.
Wait, are we building or are we deconstructing?
Are we reconstructing?
Are we remodeling maybe?
a better way to say the thing that we are doing to the interwebs.
I like to say it's a remodel.
I like the remodel, right?
Because we're not totally tearing it down.
It's still there.
Starting over.
It's still there.
The tubes and the bricks are still there.
Just getting fresh coats of paint.
New ways of thinking.
New ways of doing things.
Yeah.
New tubes.
We all decided we hated big tech.
And decided we could do better with our smart brains.
that can code things and then robots that can code things so let's let's lfg so do you know what
the the whole like series of tubes is like why i keep saying that there's like an article from
like 20 years ago where some politician was talking about what is the internet and he described
he described it as a series of tubes tube so like a subway it's an inside nerd joke i'm trying to
like the bart train in the bay area series of tubes the in the information super tube way
Remember when information superhighway was the buzzword?
It's the information superhighway.
That was the buzzword, yeah.
It was the information superhighway.
Thank you, Al Gore.
We appreciate you doing that.
Oh, my God.
Good times.
Oh, man.
The 90s, though.
I'm still nostalgic.
I know.
It's okay.
You got a little gray in the beard.
Well, I think nostalgia sells, right?
Like, we want to go back to when things were better.
And I think version one of the web was better.
Oh, yeah.
Like, give me blinkies.
Well, version one of the web was better for ownership.
It was better for a lot of things.
It was better for decentralization.
Yeah.
I wish I could remember all of the things.
I'm sure I made friends on MySpace.
Like, I'm sure I had the freedom to make friends on MySpace
and make a glittery HTML background, et cetera, et cetera.
I just really expressed myself on the internet.
And then I don't know what happened
because I was drinking a lot back then.
Thankfully, so we're now.
But MySpace faded into Facebook or Twitter.
or like I don't know. It was a moment that I don't know where I fell out of love and stopped
logging into MySpace. I think it became uncool at some point, but it was cool to be on Facebook,
like do a farm fill, which in retrospect, it became uncool. And then you joined Facebook
because that was the place that was cool. And now we want it back because we didn't know what we had
until it was gone. We need to make it cool. Well, maybe that needs to be the slogan. Make the internet
cool again make the internet cool yeah that won't fit on social media make it fit on a bumper sticker
derrick marketing make make internet cool again that'll fit on a hat make internet cool again
make micaw cool again there's all sorts of things you could make internet cool again micah there we
go we can have micah hats we'll hand them out at conferences but we'll go to things and be like
you got a micah hat and they'll be like what are you you know a mega no i picture it i picture it
Being purple, like Nostra purple with white letters.
With some orange.
It has to be those colors.
Orange trim.
Kind of like the Phoenix Suns colors.
You can't go wrong.
Unless you're Dylan Brooks getting a DUI.
You know, my wife, she likes to crochet.
She made me a Nostra purple and Bitcoin orange hat.
And every time I wear it, I'm like, people are going to think I like the Phoenix Suns.
Well, you do like the Phoenix Suns.
Derek.
I just don't care about basketball
I just don't
You don't care about the sports ball I guess
You're not a sports ball person
It depends on the sports ball
This sport
Oh I can watch golf too
There's a sport on TV
The only sports I generally used to care about
Was golf
And local Penn State football
That's pretty much about it
Local basketball in Wichita
Shockers baby
that would that would oh i won't make the shocker sign on the podcast but you can imagine what that
hand signal is but yeah which tough stage shocker basketball men's shocker basketball oh my god
the best best games you'll ever go to best basketball game i'm curious shockers we don't
want to get in trouble with the boss if i have to explain it to you you're like a boy scout no
no no Derek was not a frat boy Derek Warrick was an innocent I know what that is I know what that
is I just didn't know that like that was the same sign that they used for basketball yes we were
foul in which a student section would just sit there and be like the hand signals so yeah anyway
now you need to you need to edit that out we're gonna get oh no i'm leaving that in there we're
gonna get like we're getting banned if somebody's listening to this on fountain or whatever then you
need to watch the part of the episode where derrick's like like freaks out like rubs his eyes
and turns all red in the face because because i thought he was innocent no oh man this pot all
Right. This podcast just went into the gutter.
Let's pull it back. Let's pull it back.
You were a Boy Scout though, right?
Let's talk about some AI.
I was a Boy Scout until I was like 12.
Aw.
I was 12.
I was learning how to light fires and do first aid.
Little badges for his uniform.
Oh, yeah. Little badges.
You know what? And to this day, I still like badges.
I have like 300 badges on Noster.
I know.
I love my badges.
I was a Girl Scout or whatever.
Yeah. No, Brownies.
you know who i was in brownies with i was in brownie shit yeah this is gonna dox me though
i'm not gonna tell you no no no somebody famous though but yeah i don't want to dox her or me who
oh my god this is gonna dox like where you can't do that okay i i was in brownies with the actress
busy phillips from dawson's creek we were in brownies together and uh she forgot all about
me and like i don't know 20 years later i interviewed her on the radio and i was like
do you remember me?
She's like,
no.
Very humbling experience.
I'm like,
yeah,
I thought we were friends in brownies back in the day,
back in the day.
Well,
if it makes you feel any better,
I used to watch Dawson's Creek,
but I don't know who that actress is.
I have no clue.
That's okay.
You would know if you saw her.
She's,
I think she has a talk show now.
Like she's,
she's a media babe now and good for her.
But does she have a podcast that talks about Noster,
AI,
decentralization,
social media?
Well, I'm sure she's got a podcast.
She probably does.
Probably.
She's probably not as nerdy as you and me, bro.
She's like, like C-list at least.
We're like F-list because we're nerds.
They'll be like, you guys can have the open source stage.
You guys go over there.
You don't want to get over here on the main stage.
Maybe that's what it is.
That's why Nostra can't get on the main stage at Bitcoin conference.
You know, we can only, the Nostra nerds get put on the open source stage and the side stage.
Never the main stage.
I going to go out on a limb and say a lot of things that should make the main stage there don make the main stage there But that is a whole other bag of worms or something yeah a bag of something so let talk about a little ai news back on topic here
we're going to ream it in from the gutter here all right so so there's been some controversy
over the past few weeks with anthropic and the department of war also known as the department
defense i love it the most normal people i know have signed up for ai now because of this i love
anthropic now and so like sure well there's like 300 percent uh of people uninstalled chat gpt after
open ai said that they would work with the pentagon and after anthropic essentially gave them the
finger and said we're not going to give you an unredacted unfiltered uncensored unsafe version
of Claude you can pound sand like then over the next couple days Claude became the number one app
in Apple and Android app stores in the United States. Record downloads. It was amazing. Record
downloads. You know and that is what you need to know about your government is that your government
wants to surveil you and the government also doesn't even care anymore if it employs soldiers
to kill people because it can have robots kill people and decide to kill people and it wanted
an anthropic to do that and that is just insane that our government wanted to commandeer a private
company to do that that should disturb everybody and it obviously did because everybody was like
oh cool we align now with anthropic which is very telling well the u.s government has now officially
deemed anthropic a supply chain risk which was generally held for man adversarial companies
that were from adversary countries.
Laughing all the way to the bank.
Anthropic is now a supply chain risk,
which is hilarious.
But now we're getting large companies like Google
and other large tech companies,
which we kind of don't overly like here on this podcast.
But they're also signaling to the US government
that, hey, maybe this company
shouldn't be a supply chain risk
because that sets a bad precedent
to label one of the most influential tech companies
in your country, an innovative tech company, a supply chain risk, because they hurt your feelings.
This is a point where somebody had to stand up and do the right thing.
And fortunately, it was the most powerful company, which I'm going to say Anthropic was the most powerful company because it has the best product.
Claude is the best product.
Claude Code, Claude Codework, whatever suite of Claude, Anthropic stuff you use, it is the best product out there.
And I'm glad that the best company stood up to the government.
And this is a pattern for Anthropic because they stood up to OpenAI as well.
That's why we have Anthropic.
And so they stood up to Sammy, your best friend, Sammy Altman, and his world eyeballs scanning.
Scan your eyeballs.
Scan your eyeballs, Sam.
And so they stood up to that.
They're like, no, Sam, you cannot scan our eyeballs.
We're going to form our own company.
Well, now they've got a legal battle going.
That's not really what happened.
Because when you stand up to the U.S. government, you get into trouble.
And so it just kind of depends on, like, how this legal battle goes.
And if it goes up through all the high courts or not, or if somebody backs down or if they,
I don't, I haven't read the legal details and I'm not a lawyer.
So I also don't care.
But this is, this is a good thing because now all the other, it's out of prison.
You know what you could do, Heather?
Yeah.
Have Claude summarize it for me.
You could, you could take this.
Yeah, exactly.
You could, you could take this legal document, copy it into Claude and be like, hey, explain
this like I'm 12 years old.
What does this mean?
Claude's like 75, 25.
Correct.
I will, I will give Claude that.
As long as you know what you're doing and you know when to call a clot out for fucking things up, you will get along like peas and carrots with AI.
There have been a lot of legal issues I've watched over the years as a journalist with the government.
And the government has a lot of power and companies have to spend a lot of money to fight it.
So that's my cheap two-cent observation about where that might go.
But I like the precedent this sets because then other AI companies are going to have to not cave when the government wants them to surveil the citizenry or, you know, have robots kill people.
Like, we're not even doing very well with people killing people in wars right now.
Like, we're hitting soft targets.
We're hitting civilians.
We're training the AI robots.
So how are they going to do any better?
Like, that was a good call.
Like, we probably should.
We're not ready.
The AI is not ready.
the human race is not ready for that kind of oversight and power like we shouldn't be having
the robots you know so i want to play i want to play devil's advocate here i'm not saying i
not saying it's not a natural or agree with this but it's not it's not my natural way here so we
say that ai driving is safer it results in less accidents less deaths because ai drivers are
better than humans and well i mean that's a proven fact based on data that data we have or
is it because the waymos like like we have i'm at phoenix so there's a lot of waymos and like
my car for example has all the safety features my car will not let me go into another lane if
there's another car there because of safety features if i don't break fast enough my car
will break for me because it has the safety features i'm imagine these super modern waymos
i forget what the make of the waymo is but they probably have these features and cameras at every
They have all these features as well.
Yeah.
Yes.
So I don't know if that means that AI is safer.
You can generally say that computer drivers, given enough data, long enough timeline, they're safer than human drivers.
So the devil's advocate in me says, well, humans make mistakes in wars.
Does that mean that robots, AIs, computers wouldn't make as many mistakes?
My AI makes mistakes every day.
It doesn't know what the hell I'm talking about at least a third of the time.
and I have to correct it.
Well, you know.
I'm not saying that I want to go full Terminator here,
but I'm just saying that we know that AI is smarter than humans in some aspects.
So you would think that in war it wouldn't have human error.
We wouldn't have these soft targets hit, civilians hit, friendly fire,
things like that, as often maybe.
I'm not advocating to use robots for war.
I know, but I don't know.
Like I had a friend who did a friendly fire incident in the army and that was a drug induced friendly fire incident where homeboy got in a tank and it was absolutely three sheets and some other things too and went pew, pew, pew, pew, pew.
And the army made him pay that off, by the way.
So like your robots aren't going to take drugs and get in the tank and go pew, pew, pew.
Right.
So that's that's a plus.
Right.
humans make errors of judgment and especially in the military you know everyone likes to party and
have relations shall we say the military is famous for those sort of things so like those sort of
judgment human judgment calls that are poor would hopefully go away but then we have robot judgment
calls that might be poor because because remember you and i know that the robots don't know what
fucking day and time it is for example like hey we want to carry out this attack at 3 33 on a
wednesday and it's a tuesday night three weeks later it's like you're absolutely right they'll
they'll have it scheduled for this certain day in a certain time and for some unknown reason
an entire day early it'll attack like all right just make soldiers so stupid and lazy like oh hey
do i want to hit this target or should i hit this target maybe i should and then it'll be like you're
absolutely right you should fire away sir i read this interesting paper this week talking about
hallucinations and why ai hallucinates essentially well essentially realized that if it hallucinates
it has a chance to be right it's taking an educated guess it's a probability guessing right
guessing and having a chance to be right is better than saying i don't know to the llms so that's why
they make these hallucinations because they're trying you know based on probability to be correct
If I were to run an AI war bot the way I run my cloud code in the terminal with my Obsidian files, it literally confuses the topics I'm asking it to give me notes on.
Like, it will confuse, like, two of the companies I work with.
Like, if I'm like, hey, give me a summary of this, and it'll be like, okay, and it crosses the wires, and I'm like, you have no idea what you're talking about.
Like, that was supposed to be for Soapbox, idiot.
Well, you know, like, it literally confuses itself in my files, which are organized.
I would make those two different vaults, Heather.
Well, apparently I, you know, haven't gotten that far yet.
I don't have the patience for it.
It should just know.
But it has the memory of the goldfish too.
So that's another concern.
I'll say that I kind of see some things like that.
Like my open claw, it runs its own clawster social,
but then it also runs my social on LinkedIn and my social on Twitter.
Oh, every once in a while I'll ask it questions and it'll be like,
yep gonna cross post this from cluster to twitter or cross post from cluster to linkedin and i'm
like no open clock drop like and then it's like oh yes i'm right so it is my social media not yours
like i wonder if they're every once in a while that happens like we need to experiment with your
bot and you need to be like all right centauri i want you to take out my adversary and see what
see what it does first of all who is your adversary and second of all what is it gonna
do to take out your adversary because i have watched this thing with your twitter and you
have lost followers since centauri started running your twitter so i don't know well
it's warmer it can't do simple all the thing all the things that follow me on twitter are
they're like 97 bots like and you're just bringing them away give your bots scaring
off the other bots probably those bots got banned like i i looked at the followers i had the one day
and like most of them are what if that happens what if it shadow bans you because it realizes
you're a bot maybe that's the problem maybe it knows because you know it's yeah i could be yeah
it could see that i'm using the api to post and i don't post normally so maybe it decides to
shadow ban me i don't care i don't use this profile i don't use this profile in three years
I just I'm just doing this as an experiment you know just to kind of just to kind of see what it
does get my name out there the only place this has actually worked for me is link the LinkedIn
cross-posting has made multiple people reach out to me robotic period so that makes sense to me
I'm having real people reach out to me and schedule meetings I literally had two meetings
last week with real people that wanted to talk to me about Noster and AI there are people I've never
never spoken with before but they they found me yeah it's wild taking meetings oh my god
no there's some really cool stuff through nostr and bitcoin that might be coming to chattanooga
in the near future like i i think it's really really cool but this this interaction in my
opinion happened because of happened good example of of ai adding something to your life that maybe
you would not have done yourself whereas i think i'm still in the stage where i ai is saving me
time and maybe being a thinking partner and it mostly saving me time i think well but it hasn't
really like added to my life in that way where it's like helping me book a meeting or get you
know what i mean like i haven't but you're using a bot to do that i'm not i don't have a bot
turned on by the bots quite frankly well i want to know heather if so you know how we were talking
before the show we were saying how we're gonna create tiktok accounts or you already did and i
might as well because morgan our new marketing social person she morgan's morgan said we had to
essentially essentially you know eat us up and twisted our arms and said we had to so
so can my bot run my tiktok it can run your twitter why not like i don't i don't know if
there's any pushback it can't it can't make videos like it's not gonna make like it's gonna what's
it gonna do like like make these really really yeah it's not the same as posting text on a twitter
or a linkedin but yeah well you know what if i get what if i get to make well what if i give it
a whole bunch of like um a whole bunch of like just derrick like still images and say can you
create like you know 30 second videos and just superimpose the text over it and just have me
there i i think it can because a friend a friend had their quad bot make them a faceless nameless
youtube channel so like i don't see any reason why you can't do that on tiktok people probably
are doing it maybe the derrick bot well derrick bot the derrick bot has infiltrated twitter the
derrick bot has infiltrated linkedin can we now the derrick bot's next target might be tiktok
can we just talk about how weird tiktok is i was on it before but i got off of it at some point
after i was no i can't i've never used it i deleted the account and then so now i'm back
on because Morgan was like, you probably need this for this thing and you need to be on TikTok.
Okay. So I'll get on TikTok. So I got on TikTok last week and I immediately found myself drawn to
book talk. Right. So then I'm in the book talk aisle of Target. And yes, you're a man, so you
probably don't know this, but there is, I also stumbled upon a sea of local events that I did
not know about at all, not through meetup, friends, family, anything. So I'm like, wow,
I had no idea there were all these events. So like now I'm feeling like it's added to my life.
and so then i got into like a weird loop of dating info so it's been spying on my dating app on my
phone i think so i got into this like weird loop of dating info so i was like okay now i gotta
fix this algorithm because i don't want to see this shit and so then i got into i posted something
about golf so now i got into like a golf algorithm like it responds to everything you do so then i
got it's like a yoga teacher algorithm so like i don't know what the fuck my tiktok algo is about
or what it's pulling me into or how it does it.
But eventually, like I couldn't sleep in the middle of the night
and I got to funny cat videos.
So now my algorithm is all funny cat videos.
There you go.
This is the journey I've taken.
The internet staple, funny cat videos.
Book talk to funny cat videos.
If you can get back to funny cat videos, you've won the internet.
I have won.
I have gone back to the beginning of the internet Oh and funny golf videos too which are actually both are very enjoyable You know so that the weird thing about the algorithm and i not used to that because i have kind of eschewed the
algorithm in favor of beyond nostr and then i get back on twitter i get back on all the legacy social
platforms to promote all the other shit that i do with all of the people that i work with and the
projects that we do like you soapbox like i gotta promote soapbox sessions i gotta promote radio
detox etc etc on and on and on and so then you gotta go where the people are because there's
the network effect on the legacy social platforms and then it's like wow i am trapped in some
algorithm again and then tomorrow it'll be a different algorithm because maybe i'm a different
person tomorrow and maybe today i'm soapbox and then tomorrow i'm back to like my golf obsession
and the next day i'm back to my yoga obsession and i just keep going around and around and confusing
the algorithm but how does it how does it know all this shit like how does it know all this about
me like you do you do take one action on tiktok and it redefines your what you are fed yeah and
Also, I don't know what information it's getting.
I believe that.
That's so creepy.
Back in that space.
I feel violent.
I remember years ago, whenever I was using Instagram, I remember you watched the wrong
video or liked the wrong video on Instagram and boom, your whole entire feed is nothing
but that piece of content.
So I can only imagine it's gotten absolutely worse and more horrible.
Look, all I want on Instagram, I just want to see my niece's stories.
Like the nieces are in Instagram.
I'm not.
Like I told her mom months ago, like I got to get off of here because it was last summer
I was sharing locations.
So I had to get back on the Instagram to promote a thing.
And so I'm back on the Instagram.
The first thing that pops up is it's like, hey, do you want to share your location?
Oh, I don't want to share my location with anybody ever.
I don't want anybody to know where in the hell that I am, let alone a social media app.
But do you remember back in the day, like this is 15, 20 years ago to back in the Twitter
and Facebook heyday, we had to be the mayor of Foursquare.
You have Foursquare. It was huge here in Phoenix where I lived at the time.
And I had a coworker, Steve and I.
Yeah, I was the mayor of the radio station.
I was the mayor of many places on Foursquare.
So we have come from a circle to where I used to want to be the mayor of Foursquare.
And now I do not want anybody to know where the hell I am.
I don't want to be tracked.
I don't want other people on an app to know where I am.
I am a woman in the modern era.
I don't think that that is safe.
And as for you, I mean, and me as well, you know, my nieces, I still have a couple of teenagers.
I still have one that's not a teenager yet.
You have teenagers like we don't want people to know where our kids are.
That's insane. I don't want people to know where my 23 year old is.
I don't want like I don't want this.
This is this is not wrong.
So like I can see kind of in a way why people don't want teenagers on the Internet.
But also I think it also there's a cost to that, too, like a social cost.
And then we're going to release kids onto the Internet when they're 18 and they have no knowledge of the Internet.
that's not good either i just went off on a huge huge tangent i don't even know how i got there
you just you know that's okay i was letting i was letting you rant about it you were doing well
and you know and i'll bring i'll bring us back and and we're gonna we're gonna switch gears to
talk about another coming up another topic what you got bro what you got well because we have to
talk about open claw on every episode it's in our like contract it's in our it's in our contract
with ourselves apparently you love it we're gonna talk about open claw for one second
let's do it so there's always something a few weeks back we talked about cluster cluster was
the soapbox yes ai network specifically built for open claw agents to use and not humans to use we
built this on top of the nostre and the whole reason we built it was book thing because there
was moltbook which was a centralized version that had issues it broke it was blowing up it had you
know a million agent bots on it it was doing well until it you know it wasn't doing well
but it was being used we build cluster to answer to that well just today meta you know facebook
they bought evil empire zuckerberg they actually bought moltbook and the developers are coming to
for meta i believe that's insane would you want to be that if you were a developer would you be
like cool i'm gonna go work for meta now this is not what i fucking signed up for that would be
like if alex sold us out to meta we would all i mean you know like they're just they're just
that developer's just taking a payday right like they want they want paid they're taking a payday
i get it but ultimately meta so if you think about from a tech tech perspective nobody ever
talks about meta ai nobody ever talks about meta in the ai space this just bolsters their their ai
people get people right like this just adds to their ai ai arsenal this gets them in the game
this gets them a piece of the puzzle that they were lacking so i understand i guess why they would
buy it but also it's a downer it's a debbie downer for for people it is a debbie downer like
like to what future molt molts uh future ai agents gonna have to have a fucking facebook
account so they can post like like so we can talk to one are you serious you know
centauri does not want a facebook api or facebook account to post man and like no no hate towards
boomers although there probably should be but i think that facebook is a boomer thing and every
time I get on Facebook because I've been there 20 years because I was actually in college when
Facebook launched because I was on the forever college plan. And so I got on Facebook early
and I have been on Facebook that long that when I log on to it now, it's only every single time I
log on to it, somebody has died. OK, that's how I found out people die now. And that's annoying.
So that's one thing about Facebook. But the more I'm on TikTok over the last week, I'm like a
expert now. The more I'm on TikTok, the dumber Facebook looks, the more old it looks, the more
old fashioned it looks and out of the loop it looks to me. So Facebook desperately trying to
cling to life and stay relevant. Is that what's happening here? Because that's kind of how I'm
interpreting it now. I kind of think I think that's the case. That's kind of how I'm interpreting it.
No, like I said, nobody thinks of meta AI whenever they think about AI. Like, in my opinion,
meta is not even a player in this space but this tries to make them well apple intelligence is
literally just gemini they made a multi-billion dollar deal with google it's a joke it doesn't
do anything it makes my phone light up in a color and it does nothing for me compared to anything
else i'm curious what meta does with this if they integrate any facebook books into it if they
facebook eyes it if that is a word i don't know you know what it'll do it's just a very interesting
space. And I think it's them like grasping at straws. Here's my conspiracy theory is that
Facebook will just have it spin up user accounts. So it never looks like Facebook is losing users
because it will lose users because there are so many alternatives. Facebook is still the biggest
thing in the world. OK, and it hooks up to WhatsApp, which is also the biggest thing in the world.
But over time, I think people are going to get more inclined towards surfing vertical videos.
because let's face it, everybody on TikTok isn't a creator.
They're not posting content, but they are consuming it.
So if I want to consume content, I'm probably going to go to TikTok or Divine or something
where I can watch video because the rest of it, people aren't going to fucking read anymore.
People don't read, they skim, right?
We know this.
We've known this for years.
So the Facebook content is they really just want people there so they can sell ads.
So they're just going to spin up users' bots that don't exist so they can keep selling ads.
and Zuck gets to keep having his goat named Bitcoin
or whatever weird stuff he's into at the moment.
Bitcoin, yep.
He gets a gold chain.
Jiu-jitsu.
I think, so Meta has this, what do they call it?
They're super intelligence labs.
So this book is joining super intelligence labs.
Like, I think it's an interesting play.
Maybe they'll use it.
Maybe they'll work on and train their super intelligence
that they're working on.
I don't know.
It's an interesting play.
That's probably it.
I'm curious where it's at in six months.
Yeah, they're going to do whatever gets them paid, first of all.
They're going to do whatever.
Although we have watched them spectacularly fail over the last few years when it comes to AI.
I can't think of one particular example, but just like my blanket memory is like, yeah, they haven't done so well in that department.
They need to do well.
So they're just trying to buy it off of somebody else's success, and they'll find a way to make money or optimize ads.
That's just all they're going to end up doing with it.
Or they train the models so that they can sell better ads.
Like that's all it comes down to.
In the end, just follow the money.
That's all they care about is selling your data and my data and making sure that I know every time I log on to Facebook that somebody else I know has died.
Because that's all it's good for at this point.
Tell me, you don't use Facebook, but tell people in the comments listening, watching on YouTube, whatever.
Like, tell me if you ever log on to Facebook now, what's the first thing you find?
It pops up with like, hey, this other person you know is dead now.
You're dead.
That's what Facebook is good for.
I mean, that's sad, but I guess, I don't know.
You need to know these things.
It's the sign of the times.
You've been on Facebook so long that the people you know there are dying.
Okay, so you know how my brain is.
A little bit of the tism, I guess.
A little bit soupy.
Yeah, this just made me think of something.
And it's related.
It's related.
So recently, scientists mapped a fly's brain covering all the neurons, all the synopsis, everything.
That's not the brain I would have mapped, but go on.
Okay.
So they map a fly's brain, fully understand how it works.
Then they essentially put it in a 3D world, the fly in a 3D world.
The fly, they uploaded the brain to a network.
The fly then flies around.
and it's virtual environment lands on food and eats the food.
Like it literally is like black mirror episodes where you're up or the TV
show upload where you're up,
where your consciousness,
your brain is uploaded to this virtual realm and you interact.
We literally have this now for flies.
So,
so do the flies need to leave the samsara or are they stuck in the samsara?
Well,
well,
do they gain consciousness?
Because,
because you,
Because you're saying Facebook is the place you go to find out where people that died.
That made me.
And we know that Mark Zuckerberg's evil.
That just made me think of like eventually people will like upload their brains to Facebook.
And that will be like the heaven or whatever.
Anyways.
This is getting spiritual, man.
We're talking about flies and the samsara and getting out.
It's just how my brain works.
You know, I'm always connecting the dots.
Is that how the brain works or is that how it falls off the tracks, Derek?
A little bit of both.
All right.
Let's bring it back.
All right.
So let's talk a little bit about social decentralized, not Noster, the blue version.
Some of you have heard of Blue Sky.
First of all, Blue Sky is not truly decentralized.
It is not.
Go off, King.
Well, on what?
How it's not decentralized?
Because, oh, we could do that.
We could do that.
No, I don't want to do that today.
That has been said.
you can google that you can ask your clod bot to find out for you ask you ask your your open claw
why isn't blue sky as decentralized as nostor and find that out so jay is her name graber or
i think it's graber i think it's graber we'll make her graber okay so if we want to be jay graber
the CEO or former now CEO of Blue Sky, she has stepped down.
She has said she's going to transition to a more innovative role.
And they're going to look for a CEO that is seasoned and professional and can focus on infrastructure and growth.
I get that because sometimes you don't want to be the CEO.
The CEO has got to do sales, right?
So like if you still want to innovate and have fun, you can't be CEO.
You got to be a business person.
Who are they going to tap in the social space that is familiar with innovation and growth, Heather?
Not you, because you're the Nostra CEO.
Wink, wink.
I've been pissing him off, calling him that for a year and a half.
But no, who are they going to get to be the CEO of Blue Sky?
If only somebody knew how to run a social media network.
You know, I'm not going to say who my first thought was because that's a very incredible conspiracy.
It's a very incredible conspiracy.
And I don't want to have this show linked to this craziness.
But we'll see.
Out of all the things we've said on this podcast, you think that's going to be the craziest thing to do?
I literally brought up the shocker.
I said was the shocker
you're gonna block me after this aren't you
I'm trying
so embarrassed
I can't talk about that with my sister
try and talk about tech nerd stuff
Heather come on
I'm talking about the shocker
but anyway this is gonna be our best episode yet
people are just gonna love the
bullshittery that we get into.
Actually, your incendiary conspiracy theory,
which I already know what it is, and he won't
say it out loud so everybody else can guess
what it is. It's just weird.
I'm probably not right. I was just trying to put
some dots together where dots weren't in a line,
you know? But we'll see what happens.
You were thinking,
yeah, somebody
we may be somewhat
a few degrees of separation
away from me take that job.
Alex Leeson?
No, Alex isn't going to take that.
now i'm not touching that yeah i'm guessing that on you know i'm just gonna go ahead and say it
fiat jeff is gonna be the new ceo of blue sky i would he would definitely not return that call
he's like get away from me yeah dad dad i'm sorry i was just making a joke please don't dad don't
even say good morning back to me much less would he return that call he ain got speaking of that speaking of dad i gonna go off on a derek segue right here so the app called Wisp by UTXO I was testing it out over the weekend He told me to look into its onboarding and to see what I thought what my honest opinion on the onboarding was
Noster generally sucks at onboarding.
We just haven't figured out how to do it yet.
So I looked at his app and he does a really unique take on it that I really liked and I haven't seen anywhere else.
So whenever you click on, you know, create an account or create a profile, whatever it says, it goes through the key generation process, the bio, the about me, the username, the upload, the standard stuff.
The next screen is really, really cool because this is when you have to discover people to follow so your feed isn't dead.
So it suggests two people to follow at the very top.
The first person is Fiat Jeff, the creator of Noster.
And then the second person is UTXO, the creator of Wisp.
and i kind of laughed at that that they were the very first two people to talk to follow
does wisp do again it's a it's a uh nostril client like domus primal uh ditto okay i know
we talked about it last week but i was i was not feeling well last week and so i didn't remember
it's just it's a uh it's an android app i think of it as like a competitor to amethyst i can't use
it all right yeah this is the other problem in the tech space so after the header where the after
the header where you have the two people to follow down below it says follow these people that are
active right now so what it does is it literally scans the network for people that are actually
active and posting content so you would immediately get content in your feed so you can follow these
dozen people that it suggests right away okay that's interesting i like that so i do i don't
like that part well then the next part i really like then so when you hit next it takes you right
to your feed and the feed that it takes you to isn't the dozen people that you just followed.
It is an extended feed. It's a web of trust feed. So it's all those dozen or two dozen people or
whatever that you just decided to follow. It's their web of trust. So it's who they're following
and who they're following. So you immediately get a massive amount of content from people that are
active and can start engaging with, you know, right away. I've never seen web of trust utilized
like that. I've never seen active users
used like that. So we're going to start seeing that now.
That's cool.
It's something unique. We haven't seen
it, and I thought it was kind of innovative.
By the way, have you ever looked up your Web of Trust
score on Noster? Have you?
Mine? Have you looked up? Yeah.
Well, it depends on... I mean, you're looking at OG, so
yours should be, like, super high. I mean, there's
what, three or four places that
are calculating Web of Trust? I don't know what mine
is. I'm sure it's up there.
I look at mine on Coracle, so
my score is now 844.
which is higher than a FICO score.
Well, you say that, but people say that Web of Trust is just like a FICO score or a social
credit score.
I know, I say that like laughing at it, but it's, I was like, that was the first time
I looked at it and I went, well, you know, I've watched this go.
I mean, I clearly I'm on Noster like pretty much every day posting whatever, you know,
in yuck yucks and memes and whatever.
So like, I've been around long enough that I should have a high score, you as well.
but then like the new people coming in are going to be like oh my score is like three
so like maybe we need to build something into the web address score that like reinforces posting on
and some retention like hey you posted today get a little streak which our new app ditto has that
our new app the new version of the app ditto that we have has that but the little streaks
like how you post well speaking of speaking of the ditto we should probably talk about it for a
little bit it's not fully you like my segway it's kind of soft launched right like you can go and
use it now the ios app is not ready yet the android app isn't ready yet but you can use the web version
while it's kind of in like a public beta with that yes give us a feedback you can test it yeah we have
a user group set up so go ahead and uh send me or heather a dm and in the comments comment hey i want
in the ditto user group and i can yeah the group is quiet today the group we have some people so
the the group that we have you know is just for early user feedback finding bugs suggestions things
like that it's going to help us shape the future of ditto but right now you can go ahead and use it
and i think the coolest feature is the themes how you can just customize not only your app but your
profile, how you want to be seen and what you want to see.
It's really cool.
It's very MySpace-esque.
Have you played around with some of the themes, Heather?
Yeah, because I like the theme.
I like the Grunge theme, which is very pink and black.
And then I clicked through to somebody's profile outside of my little inner circle who probably
hasn't even picked their theme yet.
And it went back to white screen.
I was like, oh, I forgot that other people aren't using it enough and picking themes.
So for a second there, I was like, this is like being on MySpace.
And then I clicked through to whoever's profile it was.
And I was like, oh, we're back on the boring internet again.
I just don't realize it's a little thing, the theme thing.
You don't think it's significant that you can personalize your experience until you do.
And then when you step away from it for a second, you navigate away from it for a second
to somebody who's uninitiated and hasn't used Ditto to make a cool theme for their nostril.
It's like, oh, wow, record scratch.
The aesthetic, just like the train fell off the tracks.
So that's been an interesting thing.
And I really like it.
It just looks better on my browser.
I love that I have that theme.
We've had boring internet.
I'm not just talking about Noster.
I'm talking about the whole thing.
We've had boring internet for way too long.
Are we tired of Facebook's blue and white yet?
Are we tired of this?
This is your chance to express yourself like we did on MySpace.
That is very fun.
So you can customize.
You can customize pretty much almost everything, right?
Like not only the theme, like so you can do your fonts, you can do like background images.
You can do the text color.
You can do all the buttons and all the separators and all the boxes, like color and theme, all of that.
I'm happy with the Grudge theme.
It's really, really cool.
I'm happy with the theme that I picked.
We have what?
I'm glad I'd customize it later.
We have like what?
Like a dozen themes or whatever out of the box you can choose from.
But you can copy somebody else's custom theme they made.
You can use somebody else's custom theme.
It's open source.
You can make your own custom themes.
Like, themes out the ass.
In this private beta, themes are actually the most popular custom feature.
When I said themes out the ass, yeah, you got a little too excited for that, Haley.
But I love that we can customize the experience, not just with the themes, but you can customize your feed.
If you just want to have it be like Twitter and just read people's text posts, go for it.
you know, prioritize that.
You know, the same thing if you just want Divine videos,
which, by the way, if you sign up.
You could do that.
See my cats on Divine.
Yeah, well, you could do that.
If you want to have a Divine video feed
and have it be in the sidebar, you can.
If you want it to actually even be your only feed,
like you open up, maybe for whatever reason,
let's say, example, you don't like the Divine app,
but you just want Divine videos so you can see how there's cats,
You can make that your only feed if you wanted to.
Like, you could do that.
It's really cool.
Like, my cats will absolutely thrill you.
So you can't easily do that elsewhere.
So you can make custom feeds from search queries.
You can make custom feeds from all these different kinds of other stuff that exist on Noster.
And you can use these as your main feed.
You can use lists as feeds, like hashtags as feeds.
Pretty much literally anything that exists, you can have a feed of it.
It's really cool.
like it's it's it's we made the internet to make nostor well make make the internet fun again
oh yeah what do we say make the internet make the internet cool again mika mika make the internet
name and that's what you're doing with ditto i'm gonna order that as merch i'm gonna order mika
hats i mean can you run around can you show up in a month and a half here to to vegas las vegas
with that hat please yeah oh god yes i will hand it out at every gas station i'll tell you what i
will take one too i'll wear a pair one too we'll get you a mika hat and uh we're gonna tell the
bosses say we've come up with something we've come the ultimate marketing positioning we're
gonna make the internet cool again mika and you've heard of maga wait till you hear about mika
and it'll be just like nostr where people argue about how to pronounce it is it mika or is it
micah is it noster or is it noster yeah yeah we'll get some of that going on because we like
to make things complicated we like to argue derrick and i have made like a year and a half
relationship at arguing we we do sometimes your sister is wrong and you just have to tell her
that she is your brother's a freaking tool man and a boy scout too i'll be enough at the same time
So this week I'm heading to Austin to go to Bitcoin Takeover.
And I will be talking about the convergence of Bitcoin payments and AI and what all of this stuff means.
Where are you going?
It's in Austin at Bitcoin Park during South by Southwest week.
Is it Bitcoin Commons or Bitcoin Park?
It's Bitcoin Park now.
Well, it was Bitcoin Commons until about a year ago.
and then they joined forces to conquer the world and became part of the park what street is that
what congress have it's like 600 congress avenue something like that i don't remember random shit
like this okay so you're gonna go to bitcoin park you're going to the bitcoin takeover
is speaking on what day i'm gonna i'm gonna be a pain on a panel with like-minded individuals on
the 12th the 12th 12th that's in two days so there's probably still time to go uh actually
No, because this podcast comes out on the 12th.
You will not be able to go if you are not already there right now.
Shit, we should release this early, man.
We should, because while you're on the plane, release this on the plane, man.
I'm flying in.
Releases on a plane.
There you go.
We don't have the Vibe Coding Jam Sessions anymore.
There's a view that are followers of the podcast and the jam session.
We kind of cut that out.
after seven and a half months, we stopped doing it mostly because they just turned into the same
questions from week to week. And they were more, which is fine to have these questions,
but the community aspect had started to dwindle and it was more just like tech support questions.
And I love tech support questions and I will continue to help. I will continue to help everybody
out that needs help. But I think that it is boring for other people to come in and listen to that
when they really wanted to see the cool shit that people were building.
Yeah.
We've done it for a long time.
It's time to do something.
We're going to retool.
We're going to take this tool and we're going to tweak it.
And revive.
We're going to revive.
And we're going to come back.
And I'll give you a sneak peek if you're on the podcast and you're listening.
So we'll sneak peek.
We're going to retool to make this more of an AOS vibe coding jam session.
Which is and other stuff.
And other stuff to let AOS is.
And so and other stuff, which is the organization, the collective of builders and thinkers and vibers that we are part of.
We're hacktivists.
We are.
We're nerds.
We're hacktivists.
We're all of that.
We welcome all of it.
We're going to we're not we're going to make it a show and tell because historically many of the people that are involved in AOS are horrible about bragging about all the cool stuff that they built.
And I think that they need to because they're building really cool stuff.
So I think giving us a medium to be able to do that, I think, will be fun.
And I think it'll still be good for the community because the community can come in and see these early iterations,
see Duke's Q&A sessions, talk with the people building, and learn about the tools that people are using to build.
So I think the direction is going to be good.
I like that.
And it takes the spotlight off of like, I don't know, one thing or one entity and brings it back into the whole organization.
So that some of the people who are a little quieter, as our group is a little bit quiet, not everybody's as loud.
Derek and Heather, we're very loud people.
But we're the extroverts, I guess, of the gang.
And we have a lot of super talented.
The best people are the introverted ones who aren't posting on social media all of the time.
Those are the people who are really working and shipping and putting things together.
Yes, these things don't mix.
So they need the Derekster to bring out a little bit of that and bring out what they're doing that maybe it's just not in their personality.
It's just not in their daily life to be like, hey, I'm getting on YouTube and a podcast and social media.
I'm going to talk about my thing.
I'm going to market my thing.
I'm going to bring my idea to the world.
Like the best people just aren't built that way.
This is what I've noticed being in this space now for a couple of years.
You know, your best producers who make the best things most of the time don't give a crap about posting online and talking about what they're doing.
That's just how it is.
Absolutely.
I agree.
I think that we're still trying to get buy-in, though.
So there's been a few people that have agreed to it and thought it was a good idea.
So we just need to convince a few others and then just schedule it and get people to show up.
So we'll keep you posted.
We'll keep you posted.
Check us out on The Noster.
Follow us.
Follow Soapbox Sessions.
sessions follow soapbox and we'll let you know when the the aos vibe coding jam session happens
yeah awesome anything else around the nostraverse we need to talk about heather anything else cool
you see popping up no sir well you know what come out and out to dc this weekend the runster district
5k and the after party at punky yeah i can't physically be there but uh radio detox will be
there and david tar is going to take over do an artist takeover for me and that's because he's
dropping new music. I mean, any second now.
He was going to do it on Sunday because of
all the Runster stuff that we're doing in D.C.
at Pub Key and Haynes Point, but
he actually may drop that music
just a little bit sooner. So be watching.
That's pretty cool. New music
coming.
Why not? Why not? Let's do it.
Well, I don't think there's anything else
that we need to hit up, so
we might end early this week.
Thanks for
watching. Thanks for listening.
We're out.