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We didn't take care of the beautiful idea that we create our own future, that we as humanity

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can do almost anything that we imagine.

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Despierta y date cuenta que todo lo que te cuentan se lo inventan porque intentan confundirte

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Y distraerte que no veas la verdad

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Y que mires a otro lado

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Desorientado y cansado

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Mañana te habrás olvidado

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Así que no te dejes engañar

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Por pretextos falsos

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Fronteras imaginarias

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Sin papeles de mentiras

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Si estás perdido y hundido

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No pierdas la esperanza

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Ya no temas más

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El Salvador te salvará

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Te salvará

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El Salvador ya llegó a rescatarte de la prisión

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El Salvador ya llegó a liberarte de Babilón

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El Salvador te salvará y también salvará la selva

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Salvará los animales, los mares y la tierra

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Escucha tu corazón y utiliza la razón

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Encuentra el equilibrio entre la luna y el sol

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Levántate, camina, decidete y vive tu vida

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Tu destino solo es tuyo y de las estrellas

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Borrón y cuenta nueva, escribe a tu manera

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Cambia de ropa de gente y vuela con el viento y la libertad

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Si estás cansado de luchar, sin hogar donde descansar

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Ya no temas más, el Salvador te salvará

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Te salvará

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El Salvador ya llegó

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A rescatarte de la prisión

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El Salvador ya llegó

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A liberarte de Babilón

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El Salvador te salvará

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Y también salvará la selva

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Salvará los animales

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Los males y la tierra

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de curso legal, convirtiéndose así en un símbolo de esperanza y libertad para todos los habitantes de la Tierra.

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Este evento histórico marcó el comienzo de una nueva era de prosperidad, paz y soberanía individual

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basada en el bien más escaso del planeta.

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Bitcoin, el primer y único objeto físico digital finito.

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Bitcoin, el primer y único objeto físico.

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Las ideas grandes son bellas y tienen gran poder.

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Pero las cosas más bellas pueden ser más frágiles que nosotros.

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Cuando yo era el futuro, pensamos sobre el futuro y nos fuimos desigualdades por las posibilidades

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No podíamos esperar para que suceda y sea parte de la historia

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Pero ahora, preguntamos a todos lo que piensan sobre el futuro

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Y dirían algo en la línea de guerra nuclear, catástrofe, hunger, pestilence, la muerte de la vida

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No nos cuidamos de la idea hermosa de que creemos nuestro futuro

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Que nosotros como la humanidad podemos hacer casi todo lo que imaginamos

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Nuestra ingenuidad, lo separamos de nosotros de otras especies

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En El Salvador, estamos tratando de rescatar esta idea

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Y comenzar el diseño de un país para el futuro

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Usar los mejores ingredientes que nos hace como somos

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Y usar la sensibilidad para encontrar los mejores ejemplos de ideas

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Desde la historia y alrededor del mundo

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Yo creo que Bitcoin podría ser una de estas ideas

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Bitcoin podría ser una de estas ideas

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Ya llegó, ya llegó

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Yo creo que Bitcoin podría ser una de estas ideas

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Ya llegó, ya llegó

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Bitcoin, el primer y único objeto físico digital finito

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La Iglesia de Jesucristo de los Santos de los Últimos Días

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What a way to say goodbye

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You went out like a star in a blue sunrise

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Radio Detox back again, this time with Mick from Geyser.

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You got to get to geyser.fund and take part in this wonderful new economy that we have going here.

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And yet another way.

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It's not always just about Bitcoin, Noster, and music.

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There's a lot going on on Geyser as well.

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I know a lot of us are using Geyser for a lot of things, which we'll get into.

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But first of all, welcome, Mick.

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You're on Radio Detox.

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I already feel like I'm detoxing.

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Thank you so much for the invite.

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It feels great to be here.

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I'm glad you're here.

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You're one of the people who,

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I think you're one of the first detoxers, right?

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You created Geyser Fund.

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I'm not even sure when.

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How long has Geyser Fund been around?

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Great question.

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Yeah, so we built,

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we started building it in 2021

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and then we went live in 2022.

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So right around the same time

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in which Noster was born.

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I know you guys,

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you're very big on Noster

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and we were,

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probably in the first 30 or 50 or something like that,

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just because we were chatting with Fiat Jeff

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and mentioning Geyser, and he started this thing.

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It was really, really funny,

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and we had a lot of back and forth back in the day.

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And at the time, it didn't seem like it would make sense

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build geyser on the nostril entirely

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because it was so early

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and then in time we saw

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the growth and the

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community around it

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and more and more

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became

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real, became obvious that it was becoming

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something real and something

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actually was growing as a protocol

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yeah so basically we launched

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we really picked up in

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y ya hemos sido en este

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Bitcoin rollercoaster

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el whole

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el mission

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que se hicieron es que queremos

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enable el Bitcoin community

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a come together

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y fund things that matter

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y creo que crowdfunding

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es un gran tool

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para que

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ha impacto

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en un muy descentralizado

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a lot de funding

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operates through grants

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which are great

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but often times that means that

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there are central points of

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funding and then grants cannot fund everything

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they cannot fund emergencies

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they cannot fund culture

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we need the community to come together to fund

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things like this, products

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so basically

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realized that there was something when we

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launched a first project which was this african guy that wanted to do an educational initiative

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in nigeria and he raised like three to two thousand something dollars in just a couple like in a week

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and we had a hundred people funding from all over the world and at the time you know two thousand

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dollars is not much but he just wanted a little workshop he didn't need much and we just saw so

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Mucho interés y mucho hype

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Huyo no puede usar tradicional

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Kickstarter only operated

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de los fondos que reciben.

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Es un muy poderoso

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momento para nosotros,

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la realidad que

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algo así necesita existir en el mundo

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y el concepto en que

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la gente cambia,

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la gente necesita ser able

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de exchange con los otros

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nativamente.

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En la web.

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Y, sí.

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Es la Bitcoin y la Nostra

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es la Nostra de crowdfund.

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¿Y si considera que un nuevo Nostra?

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¿Es que un nuevo Nostra?

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¿Has obtenido el Fiat Joff stamp de approval?

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Sí, es un buen pregunta.

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¿Vale a crear Nostra?

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Cada Nostra proyecto tiene un Nostra, tiene un Npub.

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Así que podríamos decir que Nostra es un Nostra.

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El usuario, el creator, puede tomar su proyecto, Nsec,

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y llevarlo a un profile,

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y keep raising funds using that same profile.

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So there's that sort of the key entity of the profile is nostrified.

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There's other elements that are not entirely like zaps.

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We don't work with zaps just because zaps are...

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So actually Geyser Lightning addresses do work with zaps but basically zaps can sort of be faked So we don want to be listening into Zaps that could be faked which could alter the campaign stats

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But then, you know, if you write a project on a post on Geyser, it shows on your profile and so forth.

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So we're very highly symbiotic with Noster, but I wouldn't say that we're entirely like a Noster client or anything like that.

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I think guys are still trying to maintain a hybrid approach because ultimately most of our users are still using mainstream platforms like X.

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X is still our major source of users, major source of funding happening through X.

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I was looking at the data and it's some interesting data.

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Basically, Noster carries something like 10 times more users to our platform.

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Sorry, X carries 10 times more users to our platform than Noster.

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So Noster is still smaller relatively to Noster, to X.

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But the amount of engagement and reception we get on Noster is something like, it's like a lot of times higher.

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I think around 10 times more engagement we get on Noster than we get on X.

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So I think it's really a sign that we need to keep doubling down on Noster.

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The community is special.

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The vibe is special.

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The values, right?

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They're all there.

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we're very we're very you know the principles of the values in terms of guys are being not a

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custodian um people keeping ownership of their funds all of that is very very very aligned to

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our beliefs uh and our in our mission which ultimately is sovereignty is empowerment

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and we're just trying to also meet people where they are so that's why we're also on x and that's

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We were on Instagram.

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Yeah, you were, but things happened.

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Yeah, we were shut down.

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So, yeah, I mean, yeah, I'm super excited for Nostra.

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I think we want to see the growth of Nostra.

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Yeah, we want to be there for that.

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I think, yeah, I don't know.

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There's so much to dig into.

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How do you want to take it?

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There is a lot.

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Yeah, there's a couple of things that you hit on there.

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You know, you're still getting traffic from X,

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engagement on Noster and then, of course, the big debacle with Instagram, which I've

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been there personally with Instagram. Can you talk about what happened with Instagram? Because

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that was kind of what made me interview you. I was like, oh, we have to talk about this because

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you guys got, were you kicked off, deleted? I have to detox. I still don't know. That's the

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most frustrating thing. I try to get in touch in many different ways. I submitted some requests

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for reinstatements.

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One was rejected

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and without further emails.

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I didn't even get emails about that.

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And then, yeah, I tried again.

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So I'm going to have to try once more

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to try and see what is happening.

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Unfortunately, it's just still

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very non-conclusive.

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So basically, we were doing,

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we were putting out contents

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that was about Bitcoin.

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We were doing some things

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for growing our account.

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We were following a lot of users.

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We were sending them DMs if they were engaging with our content

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to send people to projects that we were mentioning.

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Which makes sense.

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Perhaps for one.

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Yeah, exactly.

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So in what way were we using the platform in a way that was outside of their terms?

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I don't know.

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We're left guessing.

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We'll never know, right?

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Unless they finally tell us something that's...

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Yeah.

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You know, is it, was there a punishment for, like, maybe you followed too many people too quickly or I just, I can't, you know, quantify.

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Yeah, that's the thing.

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I don't know.

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It wasn't even crazy.

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So I don't know.

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I think, yeah, but it's known that X is going through this.

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Sorry, Meta, Instagram are very harsh, especially with Bitcoin accounts and crypto.

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Yeah.

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And I think it probably has to do with that, you know.

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The Bitcoin oriented content.

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Yeah.

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Do you know how many followers you had for Geyser Fund on Instagram before they cut you off?

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Yeah, we had just a bit less than a thousand or something.

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Okay, so not even a big account.

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No, although we were really trying to grow there because ultimately a lot of creators, a lot of creative people, a lot of artists, a lot of musicians and filmmakers and creative people are on Instagram.

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And so we want to let these people know that there are funding methods that are really powerful, especially in areas and regions where you would not have access to them.

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So, yeah, I think, yeah, this is a shame, you know, it just puts unnecessary blockers to the growth and development of the creative industry.

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People spend all this time on social media, and social media is incredibly powerful.

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It allows us to be creators of content.

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It allows us to be consumers.

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What Geyser stands for is something that is very connected to the world of social media.

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Crowdfunding is literally the crowds, the social funding.

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It's taking ideas that often arise in social media and takes them to the next logical conclusion,

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which is let's make this happen.

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And social media also enables a bit of those, right?

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You have zaps, you have tipping.

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But the guys are trying to go beyond tipping

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in terms of actually enabling the funding mechanisms

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for ideas to get unlocked.

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And this is where we come to the recent launch

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of the All or Nothing.

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All or Nothing allows creators to raise funds

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only if they reached that minimum goal that they need to make that project happen, right?

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Many times, there's this minimum threshold that you absolutely need,

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because if you get less than that, it means you're going to have to

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put the money from your own pocket into the project.

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Sometimes that's just not what artists want.

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So it's really important for the funding mechanisms to be aligned

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so that creators feel like,

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okay, it's worth giving this a shot.

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Contributors feel like,

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I don't want to be putting money into something

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that is not going to happen, right?

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So it de-risks the contributors.

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And then the platform also can monetize

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if those other two incentives are aligned,

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if the goal is unlocked.

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So this is the all or nothing.

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It's a powerful, proven method.

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Kickstarter does it,

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but we want us to do it in a different way.

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We wanted to do it in a way that was, again, using Bitcoin in a global way, but also in a way that we did not custody funds, which is really important for many reasons.

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It's important because we do not then have to, you know, regulatorily, it's just a lot, a lot easier to do.

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You don't have to, you know, block some countries and so forth.

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and yeah and also good for the end users right we don't there's no way that we can ever freeze

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funds and yeah for for hacks and things like that it's just you know geyser becomes a lot less

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susceptible to to outside attacks as well less liability for everybody when it's non-custodial

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and and of course then it's truly peer-to-peer which is i think what we're all after is that

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the original bitcoin white paper peer-to-peer electronic cash system of you know not only are

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We're going to crowdfund from within our own community.

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We're just going to do it directly, peer-to-peer.

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And that's just the best to me.

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I mean, you can't top that model, right?

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No, exactly.

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Exactly.

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Geyser is an intermediary, but we cannot get out of the way.

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And by the way, the contract is all open source.

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Anyone can reuse it.

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It uses Rootstock, a smart contract.

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So the user funds get centrally locked in into a smart contract,

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and then they get executed

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based on block time.

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And yeah, Rootstock is

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quite solid security-wise.

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It's merged mining.

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80% of all Bitcoin miners

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merge mine with Rootstock,

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so it helps with the security

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of the Rootstock network too.

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There's no tokens,

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there's no shitcoin happening.

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It's all very, you know,

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you don't even have to know

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about Rootstock.

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You just send Bitcoin

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on Chain of Lightning

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and it just works, you know?

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That's what we wanted to build,

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something that works and is not complex.

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Yeah, you don't have to know about the underlying tech,

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but of course, if you want to, it's there

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because it's open source and, you know,

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you can fund your project.

356
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I think what Geyser has done

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that I think is hard to do in this space

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is actually getting people to spend their Bitcoin.

359
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Did you ever in a moment find it?

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Maybe in the beginning,

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was it hard to get people to spend their Bitcoin?

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And then, you know, like days like it's as we're recording this, it's Friday, February 6th.

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There's been a nice decline this week.

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Nice red candle, if you will, on Bitcoin value.

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People dumping their ETFs after year, et cetera, et cetera.

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Things went down at the moment.

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It's at about 70,000.

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You know, the Bitcoin.

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We've been in this for a while, Nick and I.

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So we know it fluctuates and other people new to the space may be going, now, why would

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I want to spend my Bitcoin on a project on Geyser? What if it goes up? What if it goes down?

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You know, but the key thing is, I think that it's been hard to get people to spend money on music,

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on Fountain or on Wavelake or on Toonster with a live show. It's hard to get out of the HODL

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culture. But Geyser is getting people to support good causes. Maybe that's what the thing is. It's

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because they're supporting a good cause. Or did you, was there resistance in the beginning to

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people spending Bitcoin on projects on Geyser? Or is it just because you guys have great causes

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on Geyser Fund? In terms of, yeah, really good points. You know, on Geyser, we have,

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I think it has, it goes back to what are you trying to achieve, right? And Wavelake and

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fountain and it's all about zapping and zapping is tipping and the thing about tipping is and like

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value for value is that you consume something and you pay for something and I mean that works right

381
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there's examples but with geyser when there's from the very beginning that geysers is about

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making something happen it's it's about you know almost it's it's kind of before before it happens

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but also continuing as you go on the journey with the creator,

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helping to continuing to make it happen,

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which is similar to Valley for Valley.

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It is a Valley for Valley method,

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but we're trying to focus it around making something happen

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and focusing on the impact.

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And sometimes that impact is a cause.

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Like you said, there's maybe a medical emergency you have to take care of,

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but oftentimes it's actually a creative enterprise.

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it's a graffiti or it's a it's a new piece of music that you want to that you want to fund

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through an all or nothing or it's it's a new documentary or a new a new product where you get

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something back so it's about all these different things and it's about making important things in

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the bitcoin excuse me in the bitcoin space happen right and um and i think the guys of you know in

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the music space i've done a great job at really focusing on the music and geyser is is focus a

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bit more bit more broadly which could be a problem sometimes in terms of people understanding what

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what we are but ultimately it's about merging gofundme and kickstarter and uh and bringing

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it to the bitcoin space and yeah to your point around how do people spend yeah yeah i think uh

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that's hard that is hard i was hearing you know i'm gonna talk to other creators and you know

401
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maybe they have their own website and they accept bitcoin and they accept um um fiat you know

402
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oftentimes it's like 50 50 50 percent fiat 50 percent bitcoin other times it's like 95 fiat

403
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and like five percent bitcoin so it's uh it's rough it's rough and bitcoin is still

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fighting the narrative for Bitcoin as a store of value.

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And Bitcoin as money is still, you know,

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a niche phenomenon among this crazy group of Bitcoiners.

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Yeah.

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But I think it's a fight we're fighting, you know.

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It's a fight that we think needs to be fought

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because there's not very good alternatives out there.

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On one hand, we have CBDCs,

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which are centralized, very, very problematic for freedom, for human rights.

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On the other hand, you have stable coins that are really powerful,

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digital money, global, instant payments, and all of that.

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But also, there's censorship.

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You're not ultimately in control of the funds, and you're still being debased.

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But they are still a step towards the solution of Bitcoin.

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And then you have you know cryptos which you know are what they are So yeah they are what they are Yes they not very They are what they are Yeah I mean yeah in terms of you know we think Bitcoin has been the most important

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digital currency.

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And actually, if you look at other platforms,

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there's one called the giving block.

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And they think they've enabled something

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like $200 million in crypto.

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And 64% of the value transacted has been in Bitcoin.

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So Bitcoin still is the most used monetary instrument in the crypto space, even more so than stablecoins.

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Even on our worst day.

427
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Yeah.

428
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I know. It's crazy. It's crazy.

429
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In Argentina, the volume of the biggest exchanges out there, like Lemon, is something like 60% is Bitcoin and then 40-50% is stablecoins.

430
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Bitcoin is still king among crypto.

431
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Stablecoins are definitely in a competition.

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To be fair, we probably will integrate stablecoins on Geyser.

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So in fact, I could probably hint at some changes that we're going to be doing soon, if you want.

434
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Go for it. Yeah. We're always curious to see what's next.

435
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So basically, we just implemented this all or nothing functionality.

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And the way that it works is that you can actually, finally, you can actually withdraw to a Lightning address or to a Bitcoin on chain address.

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And it's beautiful because you don't need Lightning.

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We still find in our feedbacks, sometimes people say, what is a Lightning address?

439
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I don't know.

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And it's Bitcoiners.

441
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Really?

442
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Can I just use a Bitcoin on chain address?

443
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There's a surprising amount of Bitcoiners that have just never engaged with Lightning.

444
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That's interesting.

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And I think they're concerned partly with the custody.

446
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I know.

447
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It's really interesting.

448
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Because a lot of us are not there.

449
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Yeah, this is an argument I've had with Alex Gleason, my boss at Soapbox, so many times.

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but he argues with all of us about it, not just me, that he's not a huge fan of Lightning.

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And he says, you know, why can't we just do this on-chain?

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And it's like, a lot of times I will choose on-chain transactions for, you know,

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obviously to get away from the fees, you know, unless I'm in a hurry, right?

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And then I'm like, okay, if I want TikTok next block in 10 minutes, I will eat the fee,

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but I've gotten out of the habit of doing Lightning because of fees.

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And, you know, there's nothing wrong with on-chain.

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Are we not, you know, low time preference people who can wait, you know, overnight for our money to move?

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You know, because we're still in control of our funds, right?

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We're still being our own bank.

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And so he's he, I think, complains about Lightning for other more technical reasons.

461
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That's my, you know, non-technical person's vote, I guess, for on-chain.

462
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I mean, I want both.

463
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I want on-chain for what I want on-chain and I want Lightning for what I want Lightning.

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And then I'll probably, you know, advocate for Cashew for what I want Layer 3 as well.

465
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But it's interesting that you bring that up because you are not the only person who has talked about this, you know, even recently.

466
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I think we've Alex has been on this this trip for a while, but it's it's interesting to hear it come from you because you guys, obviously, you've been doing this for a few years.

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You've got data to pull from. And that's interesting.

468
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Yeah. And I'm like you. I'm like you. I use everything.

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But I was just surprised that some Bitcoiners have not not stepped into into lightning yet.

470
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But yeah, to sort of satisfy this, but also other reasons, we're going to be, yeah, we're going to just do hint that we're going to be making some changes on infrastructure so that we can enable just greater reliability with payments.

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And also, yeah, make these sort of on-chain maxis also happy and just using Bitcoin on-chain directly for receiving as well.

472
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And also being proven in the UX so that a project that is launching doesn't even need to know, doesn't even need to have a Bitcoin address.

473
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They can just withdraw later and still non-custodially.

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But yeah, I'll say more at a later time.

475
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And also the reason why I mentioned this is because you could also withdraw.

476
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Actually, I'm not sure you could withdraw.

477
00:31:57,662 --> 00:31:58,682
No, you could fund.

478
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No, you could fund the stable coins.

479
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But yeah, that should be something that we'll be working on in the coming months.

480
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and let's see i mean i still think bitcoin is going to be is the biggest um and most important

481
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value layer for change bitcoin on chain and lightning of course but i do think a lot of

482
00:32:19,162 --> 00:32:25,642
people i think in the developing world especially are going to be using a lot stable coins

483
00:32:25,642 --> 00:32:32,122
and ultimately we want to enable people people's ideas to thrive you know you know if people use

484
00:32:32,122 --> 00:32:37,942
stable coins and there's still bridges between bitcoin and stable coins why why deny them the

485
00:32:37,942 --> 00:32:47,082
opportunity to fundraise for you know their new book launch or their um their their you know

486
00:32:47,082 --> 00:32:53,142
entrepreneurial ambition ultimately geyser is about making important ideas happen about empowering

487
00:32:53,142 --> 00:33:00,202
people to pursue their ideas right to to take their leap and follow their gut and follow their

488
00:33:00,202 --> 00:33:07,262
projects and um and and make them happen with their the support of their fellow community members

489
00:33:07,262 --> 00:33:12,302
you know and that's what's the most beautiful and inspiring thing about geyser is just seeing

490
00:33:12,302 --> 00:33:21,502
this collaboration to do things and to make dreams sort of come true and the power of going from

491
00:33:21,502 --> 00:33:35,082
And so like an idea is, you could say this way, Bitcoin, like you could even say this way that actually Geyser is the reason why like money exists.

492
00:33:35,082 --> 00:33:37,582
Because money is just money.

493
00:33:37,782 --> 00:33:40,382
It's just you store value, right?

494
00:33:40,402 --> 00:33:41,342
You accumulate it.

495
00:33:41,582 --> 00:33:46,422
And then you use it to make things happen, right?

496
00:33:46,442 --> 00:33:47,702
To buy things and so forth.

497
00:33:47,702 --> 00:33:53,322
and so we often talk about the concept of potential energy and kinetic energy

498
00:33:53,322 --> 00:34:02,042
geyser is enabling is turning bitcoin into kinetic energy into value that goes towards action

499
00:34:02,042 --> 00:34:07,802
and a lot of the action on geyser is people you know try to improve the world around them

500
00:34:07,802 --> 00:34:16,442
bringing about hyper bitcoinization orange pilling education impact and so forth yeah i love some of

501
00:34:16,442 --> 00:34:21,562
these like just looking at guys are kind of like my homepage today. Somebody's working on a

502
00:34:21,562 --> 00:34:28,242
multiplayer game. We've got folks working on bringing Bitcoin and lifestyle consulting to

503
00:34:28,242 --> 00:34:34,962
the world. We've got a Bitcoin-focused Swiss Army Knife. Of course, Bitcoin Dada. We love Dada.

504
00:34:35,122 --> 00:34:41,102
Dada devs, you know, working on, you know, educating women developers in Africa. I'm looking

505
00:34:41,102 --> 00:34:48,202
at Ivy Loomy, who a fellow podcaster, she's got an album. So she's doing music, which I had no idea

506
00:34:48,202 --> 00:34:53,122
until I saw this on Geyser. And, you know, there are books, there are albums, there's,

507
00:34:53,782 --> 00:34:59,662
this is our culture here. These are people just putting things in the world that we want to see.

508
00:34:59,762 --> 00:35:05,642
I mean, these are essentially entrepreneurs, you know, this, this is, this is a, a route,

509
00:35:05,642 --> 00:35:12,902
I guess, for entrepreneurs to kind of, without VC, right? You know, without venture capital or

510
00:35:12,902 --> 00:35:19,762
private equity or having an investor, crowdfunding kind of lets you do your thing and lets your

511
00:35:19,762 --> 00:35:25,902
audience give you a vote in a positive direction rather than like having to go shill yourself to

512
00:35:25,902 --> 00:35:31,882
a room of investors and try to be the biggest, strongest crab that climbs out of the bucket.

513
00:35:31,882 --> 00:35:47,402
You know, this is just sort of kind of what we're all about here on Radio Detox is like communing directly with your audience and getting to provide them value and receive value in return and getting that vote of confidence on Geyser to like, yes, this project should exist.

514
00:35:47,702 --> 00:35:48,202
Exactly.

515
00:35:49,742 --> 00:35:54,622
Let's not forget that, you know, crowdfunding probably existed way before VCs.

516
00:35:54,862 --> 00:35:56,402
You know, crowdfunding is not a new idea.

517
00:35:56,622 --> 00:35:57,902
It goes back millennia.

518
00:35:57,902 --> 00:36:02,122
BCs are actually a very more modern

519
00:36:02,122 --> 00:36:04,622
a more modern phenomena

520
00:36:04,622 --> 00:36:05,802
yeah

521
00:36:05,802 --> 00:36:10,262
it's a it's it's you know both are useful but for different things

522
00:36:10,262 --> 00:36:13,042
Geyser is about you know more community oriented

523
00:36:13,042 --> 00:36:16,042
people that just do things because like you said

524
00:36:16,042 --> 00:36:18,862
they they they believe it should exist in the world

525
00:36:18,862 --> 00:36:22,802
or they think it's it's worth it so actually

526
00:36:22,802 --> 00:36:26,322
I I personally bought recently this this little

527
00:36:26,322 --> 00:36:28,842
thing called the Bitcoin

528
00:36:28,842 --> 00:36:29,882
focused

529
00:36:29,882 --> 00:36:32,561
knife hardware. It's called

530
00:36:32,561 --> 00:36:33,581
WeSatoshis.

531
00:36:34,282 --> 00:36:35,442
It's a very

532
00:36:35,442 --> 00:36:37,162
cool... In fact, I have it right here.

533
00:36:38,102 --> 00:36:39,402
Cool. Yeah, that's one of the things I was

534
00:36:39,402 --> 00:36:40,061
looking at here.

535
00:36:40,882 --> 00:36:42,942
The guys who recommended it to me.

536
00:36:43,822 --> 00:36:44,882
Yeah. So it's

537
00:36:44,882 --> 00:36:47,382
very cool. If $100

538
00:36:47,382 --> 00:36:49,402
you get this

539
00:36:49,402 --> 00:36:51,561
card. What does it do?

540
00:36:52,302 --> 00:36:53,302
It's a card.

541
00:36:54,322 --> 00:36:55,162
But it's

542
00:36:55,162 --> 00:36:57,902
a size of a card

543
00:36:57,902 --> 00:36:59,422
that you can put in your pocket.

544
00:36:59,742 --> 00:37:00,962
A little thicker than a card.

545
00:37:01,962 --> 00:37:03,922
And you just make payments.

546
00:37:04,162 --> 00:37:05,862
So it's kind of like an NFC

547
00:37:05,862 --> 00:37:07,662
card where you kind of

548
00:37:07,662 --> 00:37:09,581
tap and...

549
00:37:09,581 --> 00:37:10,762
It's a device.

550
00:37:11,722 --> 00:37:13,802
Okay. So more like a hardware

551
00:37:13,802 --> 00:37:15,782
wallet. It's a hardware wallet.

552
00:37:15,842 --> 00:37:17,102
It's a hardware wallet. Exactly.

553
00:37:17,722 --> 00:37:19,442
Honestly, the best way of describing it is

554
00:37:19,442 --> 00:37:20,342
exactly as you said.

555
00:37:21,742 --> 00:37:23,162
Yeah, you just...

556
00:37:23,162 --> 00:37:24,262
It's for Bitcoin payments.

557
00:37:25,162 --> 00:37:26,362
So I just turn it on.

558
00:37:26,702 --> 00:37:27,202
Does it work?

559
00:37:27,742 --> 00:37:37,081
Pay $100 and you get to experiment and support very, very cool, innovative grassroots ideas.

560
00:37:37,302 --> 00:37:37,822
Oh, there it is.

561
00:37:38,682 --> 00:37:39,942
A little switch on the bottom.

562
00:37:40,722 --> 00:37:41,522
See if it turns on.

563
00:37:42,662 --> 00:37:43,282
There we go.

564
00:37:43,561 --> 00:37:47,142
Yeah, it's super slick and super cypherpunk.

565
00:37:47,282 --> 00:37:48,202
I've been really enjoying it.

566
00:37:48,202 --> 00:37:49,862
I didn't even know that existed.

567
00:37:50,262 --> 00:37:50,982
That's cool.

568
00:37:50,982 --> 00:37:57,561
and it's got the hub via nostril wallet connect on my node so i just make payments with this little

569
00:37:57,561 --> 00:38:04,362
device and uh i like that using this device so it's very slick so yeah it's cool that there's

570
00:38:04,362 --> 00:38:09,962
also and these guys have been working this for five years and wow it's it's full like everyone

571
00:38:09,962 --> 00:38:18,422
has ideas everyone has everyone's a creator it's just about having the you know the being able to

572
00:38:18,422 --> 00:38:20,442
Say, you know, I'm going to be building this.

573
00:38:20,502 --> 00:38:23,522
I'm going to be doing this and getting your hands dirty.

574
00:38:23,522 --> 00:38:27,742
You know, and that's also like, I'm going to be a nerdy product marketer here.

575
00:38:27,822 --> 00:38:29,622
I mean, that's product market fit.

576
00:38:29,862 --> 00:38:39,402
I mean, I could challenge any of our devs on the Soapbox team who have maybe some IoT thing that they're working on and say, hey, put it on Geyser.

577
00:38:39,842 --> 00:38:41,782
You know, see if people grab onto it.

578
00:38:41,822 --> 00:38:44,282
If you've got product market fit on Geyser to fund this.

579
00:38:44,282 --> 00:38:51,722
I mean, you could certainly go from there on, you know, to the next step of finding product market fit for your device.

580
00:38:51,922 --> 00:38:57,482
You know, if you've got an audience that's willing to support it through Geyser, that's a tremendously good sign.

581
00:38:57,622 --> 00:39:03,522
Like, do you have people who maybe this might be still a little early, but there we go.

582
00:39:04,302 --> 00:39:07,462
Swiss Army Knife Hardware looking at it on screen right now.

583
00:39:07,502 --> 00:39:11,862
But like these guys could probably take this idea to market.

584
00:39:11,862 --> 00:39:17,862
Do you have a success story of somebody who started with a crowdfunding project on Geyser and then later took it to market?

585
00:39:18,042 --> 00:39:18,802
Do we have that yet?

586
00:39:20,102 --> 00:39:21,622
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.

587
00:39:21,862 --> 00:39:22,302
Exactly.

588
00:39:22,462 --> 00:39:24,322
So this is where projects launch, right?

589
00:39:24,502 --> 00:39:32,382
And, you know, he did this all or nothing so that if he gets to, he only, I think he needs 6.8 million sats.

590
00:39:33,002 --> 00:39:33,442
Okay.

591
00:39:34,102 --> 00:39:37,682
And he's received so far 5.6 million.

592
00:39:38,122 --> 00:39:40,722
So, yeah, he's really close, 82%.

593
00:39:40,722 --> 00:39:44,242
but if he doesn't get to the goal in seven days,

594
00:39:44,782 --> 00:39:46,581
you know, the money goes back to the funders.

595
00:39:47,142 --> 00:39:49,061
So it is very much a way of testing.

596
00:39:49,182 --> 00:39:50,382
Is there a product market fit?

597
00:39:51,162 --> 00:39:54,882
Again, he only gets the money if he gets to 100%

598
00:39:54,882 --> 00:39:57,942
in the next seven days, right?

599
00:39:58,022 --> 00:40:00,702
So he still has, yeah, 18% to go.

600
00:40:01,022 --> 00:40:04,142
So, yeah, you can basically support him

601
00:40:04,142 --> 00:40:06,042
by buying the product.

602
00:40:06,042 --> 00:40:11,922
and then if the product, if the goal does not reach the 100%,

603
00:40:11,922 --> 00:40:13,762
well, you're getting your money back.

604
00:40:14,302 --> 00:40:15,682
There's very little risk.

605
00:40:16,042 --> 00:40:19,222
You buy it if it gets the goal.

606
00:40:19,982 --> 00:40:21,982
You get your money back if it doesn't.

607
00:40:23,242 --> 00:40:25,742
And so, yeah, the project here,

608
00:40:26,242 --> 00:40:28,102
I think let's look at some of the success stories.

609
00:40:28,102 --> 00:40:30,362
So if you go to the top projects this month,

610
00:40:30,702 --> 00:40:32,561
you can see the Hall of Fame.

611
00:40:32,802 --> 00:40:35,662
You can also look at top projects all time.

612
00:40:35,662 --> 00:40:38,061
So there's a few projects.

613
00:40:38,522 --> 00:40:40,002
I see the rage in there.

614
00:40:41,561 --> 00:40:43,782
Yeah, so these are all just this month.

615
00:40:43,862 --> 00:40:45,022
So it's been only six days.

616
00:40:45,102 --> 00:40:46,402
So there's not much yet.

617
00:40:47,022 --> 00:40:47,402
Right.

618
00:40:47,522 --> 00:40:51,182
But if you look at the all-time leaderboard,

619
00:40:51,942 --> 00:40:54,462
some of the most funded projects are MiPrimer Bitcoin,

620
00:40:55,042 --> 00:41:00,022
3.2 Bitcoins, Bitcoin proof of sale machine,

621
00:41:00,502 --> 00:41:03,561
and one of the greatest successes is Bitcoin trading cards.

622
00:41:03,561 --> 00:41:06,162
One of our favorites is Bitcoin trading cards.

623
00:41:06,342 --> 00:41:07,302
Yeah, because that's...

624
00:41:07,302 --> 00:41:07,742
Well, they were...

625
00:41:07,742 --> 00:41:08,642
You guys...

626
00:41:08,642 --> 00:41:11,602
I don't know if they were at your booth in Las Vegas last year.

627
00:41:11,982 --> 00:41:12,982
Were you in their booth?

628
00:41:12,982 --> 00:41:15,322
No, we were at their booth.

629
00:41:16,102 --> 00:41:16,542
Yeah.

630
00:41:17,042 --> 00:41:18,322
They've launched on Geyser.

631
00:41:18,402 --> 00:41:19,182
They're season one.

632
00:41:21,162 --> 00:41:23,462
So we helped them sort of in the actual launch.

633
00:41:24,842 --> 00:41:28,682
One of their boxes, season one boxes, went for $500,

634
00:41:29,682 --> 00:41:30,542
which is now...

635
00:41:30,542 --> 00:41:32,542
They're now worth more like $300,000.

636
00:41:33,561 --> 00:41:43,682
store boxes or season one boxes So Bitcoin trading cards actually So if you bought one of these on They got some value now They got some value now Huge value

637
00:41:44,063 --> 00:41:45,962
That's so cool.

638
00:41:46,802 --> 00:41:48,582
That's awesome.

639
00:41:49,142 --> 00:41:50,582
So look at these creative ideas.

640
00:41:51,702 --> 00:41:52,662
Season one

641
00:41:52,662 --> 00:41:55,063
probably outperformed Bitcoin.

642
00:41:55,063 --> 00:41:56,242
I would probably think.

643
00:41:58,202 --> 00:41:59,222
Yeah, definitely.

644
00:42:00,883 --> 00:42:01,363
Definitely.

645
00:42:01,563 --> 00:42:01,982
Yeah, definitely.

646
00:42:01,982 --> 00:42:09,123
so yeah so basically you know they launched on geyser new project raised yeah as it

647
00:42:09,123 --> 00:42:16,843
2.7 and uh you know now they still have a project on geyser but less active and it's more like a

648
00:42:16,843 --> 00:42:23,602
like in a shop for people that want to use bitcoin but yeah it's again geyser is more like a you know

649
00:42:23,602 --> 00:42:27,282
place for it to launch and we're trying to not really focus on these all or nothing campaigns

650
00:42:27,282 --> 00:42:29,863
that are more time-defined.

651
00:42:30,582 --> 00:42:32,742
You fund them while they're alive.

652
00:42:33,302 --> 00:42:35,682
And then the funding mechanism

653
00:42:35,682 --> 00:42:39,742
depends on whether the goal is met or not.

654
00:42:39,762 --> 00:42:40,162
There we go.

655
00:42:40,282 --> 00:42:40,902
I see Anonymous.

656
00:42:40,902 --> 00:42:41,902
But so far it's been a good...

657
00:42:41,902 --> 00:42:43,782
Yeah, so Anonymous just launched.

658
00:42:43,863 --> 00:42:46,242
They haven't officially announced their launch yet.

659
00:42:47,282 --> 00:42:48,323
We're waiting for that.

660
00:42:48,323 --> 00:42:48,863
No kidding.

661
00:42:48,982 --> 00:42:50,482
Yeah, 59 days to go.

662
00:42:50,662 --> 00:42:51,942
Okay, because this is cool.

663
00:42:52,063 --> 00:42:54,602
This is for the folks who love the Anonymous sound.

664
00:42:54,982 --> 00:42:56,323
I'll say it's heavy metal.

665
00:42:57,282 --> 00:42:58,363
Yes, yes.

666
00:42:59,142 --> 00:43:03,302
So they're looking for 6,000, well, 9 million sats

667
00:43:03,302 --> 00:43:06,883
to fund the production of their second album.

668
00:43:08,043 --> 00:43:10,623
And again, this is an all or nothing.

669
00:43:10,883 --> 00:43:15,202
So they have 59 days to reach 9 million sats.

670
00:43:16,063 --> 00:43:19,363
If they don't reach it, you get your money back on Geyser.

671
00:43:19,902 --> 00:43:20,823
Cool, so no risk.

672
00:43:21,402 --> 00:43:24,343
Would you like me to show you how it works, by the way?

673
00:43:24,883 --> 00:43:26,002
Yeah, do it, do it.

674
00:43:26,002 --> 00:43:26,942
Let's give people sense.

675
00:43:27,402 --> 00:43:30,422
I think this is your first screen share on Radio Detox.

676
00:43:30,523 --> 00:43:31,402
So this is awesome.

677
00:43:32,282 --> 00:43:32,902
Let's do it.

678
00:43:32,902 --> 00:43:36,323
I think people have to see and experience some of these things.

679
00:43:36,502 --> 00:43:37,523
So let's go for it.

680
00:43:38,722 --> 00:43:42,063
So I'm going to become a mining mosher.

681
00:43:42,942 --> 00:43:43,343
Okay.

682
00:43:43,823 --> 00:43:44,863
I'll buy this.

683
00:43:45,102 --> 00:43:45,962
I'll click continue.

684
00:43:47,222 --> 00:43:48,962
It has to be higher than 10%.

685
00:43:48,962 --> 00:43:50,002
Why?

686
00:43:50,942 --> 00:43:52,762
Oh, yeah, because of the all or nothing.

687
00:43:52,942 --> 00:43:53,442
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

688
00:43:53,442 --> 00:43:56,082
so I'll get them maybe the hash

689
00:43:56,082 --> 00:43:56,902
shredder instead

690
00:43:56,902 --> 00:43:58,563
for demo purposes

691
00:43:58,563 --> 00:44:01,702
yes okay

692
00:44:01,702 --> 00:44:03,202
so continue

693
00:44:03,202 --> 00:44:06,043
so I can actually pay with credit card but we're

694
00:44:06,043 --> 00:44:08,102
fixing that flow the credit card flow

695
00:44:08,102 --> 00:44:10,242
basically allows you to instantly

696
00:44:10,242 --> 00:44:11,742
buy Bitcoin and send them

697
00:44:11,742 --> 00:44:14,143
to Bitcoin send them to the

698
00:44:14,143 --> 00:44:15,662
project so it's like

699
00:44:15,662 --> 00:44:18,063
but we're still fixing this

700
00:44:18,063 --> 00:44:18,363
flow

701
00:44:18,363 --> 00:44:22,023
but yeah I'll have to add my email

702
00:44:22,023 --> 00:44:31,563
hello geyser not fund click continue with bitcoin and i'm gonna pay you might use my card

703
00:44:31,563 --> 00:44:35,242
i'm gonna use my new card so this is the the refund file in case the funds

704
00:44:35,242 --> 00:44:39,982
the project fails right so i can we get claim a refund with that file

705
00:44:39,982 --> 00:44:47,102
oh let's do this this is cool so look at this you get choices you can pay credit card

706
00:44:47,102 --> 00:44:49,402
lightning or on-chain Bitcoin.

707
00:44:49,982 --> 00:44:51,823
So you've got to love the power of choice.

708
00:44:53,143 --> 00:44:55,802
So I'll just spend using my Wisa Toshi card.

709
00:44:56,602 --> 00:44:58,123
Yeah, I love this.

710
00:44:58,982 --> 00:45:01,282
I love a little Pac-Man vibe too on the screen.

711
00:45:01,422 --> 00:45:01,863
There you go.

712
00:45:01,863 --> 00:45:02,063
That's cool.

713
00:45:02,563 --> 00:45:05,482
So you've successfully contributed now.

714
00:45:06,863 --> 00:45:07,682
This is great.

715
00:45:07,682 --> 00:45:09,942
So the transaction is still processing actually,

716
00:45:10,722 --> 00:45:13,742
but I can already go back to the project

717
00:45:13,742 --> 00:45:15,742
because it's again going to the smart contract,

718
00:45:15,742 --> 00:45:19,363
but it's been, it's just now waiting for the block to be mined.

719
00:45:20,182 --> 00:45:22,262
But yeah, it's payments gone through.

720
00:45:23,023 --> 00:45:23,782
This is awesome.

721
00:45:24,942 --> 00:45:26,662
It's going to be showing up very soon.

722
00:45:29,602 --> 00:45:32,282
And yeah, and I can actually show you how to get a refund.

723
00:45:32,422 --> 00:45:33,742
I probably could try that as well.

724
00:45:34,442 --> 00:45:38,823
Hey, it's like in case it's not funded in 60 days,

725
00:45:39,082 --> 00:45:41,823
you just, your money shows up back at your...

726
00:45:41,823 --> 00:45:43,742
But I can already...

727
00:45:43,742 --> 00:45:44,962
That's right.

728
00:45:44,962 --> 00:45:49,182
But I can also claim a refund right now as soon as the funds arrive.

729
00:45:49,323 --> 00:45:51,343
I can show you that with the refund file.

730
00:45:52,902 --> 00:45:54,742
So you can claim a refund at any time.

731
00:45:55,402 --> 00:45:59,563
So if during the duration of a project something happens,

732
00:46:00,123 --> 00:46:04,902
the creator goes rogue or you're not happy about the progress of the project,

733
00:46:05,063 --> 00:46:10,602
you can just use a refund file and get your money back up until the goal is met.

734
00:46:10,623 --> 00:46:11,302
Change your mind.

735
00:46:11,702 --> 00:46:14,543
Once the goal is met, you cannot get your money back.

736
00:46:14,962 --> 00:46:23,942
Okay. So like at any point in time, I changed my mind and maybe one day I wake up and say, I don't like heavy metal anymore. Like that's not going to happen, but we'll just for high.

737
00:46:23,942 --> 00:46:25,662
Yeah, it's unlikely, right?

738
00:46:25,922 --> 00:46:26,202
Yeah.

739
00:46:26,222 --> 00:46:28,722
It's unlikely, but you can.

740
00:46:29,662 --> 00:46:39,222
Okay. You can get mad at the creator or whatever. Maybe they rugged you on something and maybe they wake up one morning and they decide they're a shit coiner or something.

741
00:46:39,222 --> 00:46:43,363
or they like the football team that you don't like or something,

742
00:46:43,523 --> 00:46:44,762
whatever it is, and you decide,

743
00:46:44,863 --> 00:46:46,242
I'm pulling back my support.

744
00:46:46,242 --> 00:46:46,623
Yeah, exactly.

745
00:46:46,802 --> 00:46:51,302
Or you're like, I really actually would really rather fund this other project.

746
00:46:51,543 --> 00:46:52,962
You know, you can always do that.

747
00:46:53,722 --> 00:46:59,442
So actually, you can see here the fund went through, $10 from me.

748
00:47:00,702 --> 00:47:04,063
But I can go to the – and actually, by the way, this is why I logged out.

749
00:47:04,323 --> 00:47:06,823
If I log in, the flow is even smoother.

750
00:47:07,643 --> 00:47:08,043
Okay.

751
00:47:08,043 --> 00:47:12,343
Where you can add a password and you can see the interactiveness.

752
00:47:12,523 --> 00:47:16,702
You can see the, like, essentially the claim button.

753
00:47:17,102 --> 00:47:21,882
But if I'm not logged in, I can claim a refund by tapping this.

754
00:47:22,782 --> 00:47:23,323
So I can...

755
00:47:23,323 --> 00:47:25,402
Oh, because it just knows what your address is, right?

756
00:47:26,942 --> 00:47:27,422
Exactly.

757
00:47:28,442 --> 00:47:32,582
It's just because of the user, really, rather than the address.

758
00:47:33,323 --> 00:47:35,082
But, yeah, you can just click refund.

759
00:47:35,563 --> 00:47:37,942
I can get the yes, continue with refund.

760
00:47:38,043 --> 00:47:40,922
let's see here

761
00:47:40,922 --> 00:47:42,643
atomic

762
00:47:42,643 --> 00:47:43,942
strike

763
00:47:43,942 --> 00:47:46,002
me

764
00:47:46,002 --> 00:47:48,623
clean refund let's see if

765
00:47:48,623 --> 00:47:49,782
this works

766
00:47:49,782 --> 00:47:52,722
see testing in progress boom

767
00:47:52,722 --> 00:47:55,162
refund process off chain payout sent

768
00:47:55,162 --> 00:47:56,302
that is cool

769
00:47:56,302 --> 00:47:56,823
so

770
00:47:56,823 --> 00:47:59,982
you're always in control

771
00:47:59,982 --> 00:48:01,942
of your funds

772
00:48:01,942 --> 00:48:04,182
as somebody who's going to fund a project

773
00:48:04,182 --> 00:48:06,343
you're always in control of your funds

774
00:48:06,343 --> 00:48:09,182
you can change your mind if need be

775
00:48:09,182 --> 00:48:11,382
yeah this is essentially the exact

776
00:48:11,382 --> 00:48:13,143
same functionality of

777
00:48:13,143 --> 00:48:13,962
of

778
00:48:13,962 --> 00:48:15,922
Kickstarter

779
00:48:15,922 --> 00:48:17,722
yeah this is great

780
00:48:17,722 --> 00:48:20,043
you want to be able to support projects

781
00:48:20,043 --> 00:48:21,282
you want to be able to

782
00:48:21,282 --> 00:48:24,262
get your money back if need be

783
00:48:24,262 --> 00:48:25,602
and then there you go

784
00:48:25,602 --> 00:48:27,922
the funds are already in progress

785
00:48:27,922 --> 00:48:29,262
let's see here if I got them

786
00:48:29,262 --> 00:48:30,563
that's cool

787
00:48:30,563 --> 00:48:34,242
I haven't received them yet but they're on their way

788
00:48:34,242 --> 00:48:35,162
that's cool you just

789
00:48:35,162 --> 00:48:37,262
funded and defunded.

790
00:48:37,402 --> 00:48:39,343
And of course, well, now we know Anonymous has a

791
00:48:39,343 --> 00:48:41,143
campaign going on, whether

792
00:48:41,143 --> 00:48:43,382
he has revealed it publicly or not.

793
00:48:43,523 --> 00:48:45,402
We might have to play some Anonymous music

794
00:48:45,402 --> 00:48:46,023
now on the

795
00:48:46,023 --> 00:48:48,402
detox. Yeah, exactly.

796
00:48:49,262 --> 00:48:51,422
Just to squeeze it in there so people know

797
00:48:51,422 --> 00:48:53,323
that they can get on geyser.fund,

798
00:48:53,702 --> 00:48:55,343
they can fund this and then get

799
00:48:55,343 --> 00:48:56,843
on Wavelake or get a

800
00:48:56,843 --> 00:48:58,762
fountain and listen to the music. Received.

801
00:48:59,563 --> 00:49:01,202
There you go. The funds have been

802
00:49:01,202 --> 00:49:03,082
received back. But I do feel bad.

803
00:49:03,082 --> 00:49:04,282
I feel like I want to fund it.

804
00:49:04,363 --> 00:49:05,323
I want to fund it back.

805
00:49:05,563 --> 00:49:07,343
Yeah, you have to go back now, though.

806
00:49:07,722 --> 00:49:10,602
That was just a demo purposes refund.

807
00:49:10,942 --> 00:49:12,222
That wasn't a genuine refund.

808
00:49:13,582 --> 00:49:14,242
No, no, no.

809
00:49:14,242 --> 00:49:15,043
It wasn't genuine.

810
00:49:15,162 --> 00:49:15,843
I love these guys.

811
00:49:16,002 --> 00:49:17,162
Anonymous are amazing.

812
00:49:17,602 --> 00:49:18,162
I love these guys.

813
00:49:18,182 --> 00:49:21,262
I want to fund this, too, because that's after my own heart right there.

814
00:49:21,502 --> 00:49:24,662
Like, they needed that level of it.

815
00:49:24,722 --> 00:49:27,682
I mean, that's what it costs to record an album.

816
00:49:27,902 --> 00:49:31,382
I mean, that is your studio time and your masters.

817
00:49:31,382 --> 00:49:33,462
and oh my god like I can't even

818
00:49:33,462 --> 00:49:35,543
break down the cost but if

819
00:49:35,543 --> 00:49:37,523
someone's looking at that going that's how much

820
00:49:37,523 --> 00:49:39,502
money it's yeah that's what

821
00:49:39,502 --> 00:49:40,323
it costs I mean

822
00:49:40,323 --> 00:49:43,162
it's not cheap to record an album

823
00:49:43,162 --> 00:49:44,582
it is not cheap to be a musician

824
00:49:44,582 --> 00:49:45,982
I'm gonna send them this $10

825
00:49:45,982 --> 00:49:48,282
and this is a true donation

826
00:49:48,282 --> 00:49:50,702
we are live funding right now

827
00:49:50,702 --> 00:49:53,082
this awesome project by Anonymous

828
00:49:53,082 --> 00:49:54,643
funding number two

829
00:49:54,643 --> 00:49:56,082
funding number two

830
00:49:56,082 --> 00:49:58,762
that was a trial this is the real one

831
00:49:58,762 --> 00:50:00,962
we'll have to hit him up on Noster and be like

832
00:50:00,962 --> 00:50:02,623
You just have to watch the episode.

833
00:50:03,902 --> 00:50:06,282
Or listen to the episode, since I do it both ways now.

834
00:50:06,543 --> 00:50:08,982
You just have to understand that we didn't do this to, you know.

835
00:50:10,362 --> 00:50:16,643
Well, then you can actually, you get the designation of being the first funder for the second layer next album by...

836
00:50:16,643 --> 00:50:20,602
I know, except I forgot to log in this time, just for simplicity.

837
00:50:21,382 --> 00:50:23,023
Yeah, there you go. For simplicity's sake.

838
00:50:23,043 --> 00:50:25,742
But it's fine. I can probably change it in the back end.

839
00:50:26,422 --> 00:50:27,082
For screen shares.

840
00:50:27,222 --> 00:50:30,163
Now, why do you think, like, let's just hypothetically here.

841
00:50:30,163 --> 00:50:37,602
Like when Instagram may, let's hypothetically say, because we don't know for a fact, but for a minute, we'll just entertain this.

842
00:50:38,222 --> 00:50:44,102
We'll pretend for a fact that Instagram, you know, banned Geyser because you mentioned Bitcoin.

843
00:50:44,302 --> 00:50:53,602
Like we know from musicians that we've worked with, when musicians mention Bitcoin in their Instagram content, it's like getting shadow banned, like immediately follows.

844
00:50:53,823 --> 00:50:54,082
Really?

845
00:50:54,082 --> 00:51:09,422
But you actually got legitimately banned. Why do we think Instagram doesn't want Bitcoin content out there? Do you think there's a legal issue or do you think it's something else?

846
00:51:09,543 --> 00:51:13,382
It's a very good question. I honestly don't know.

847
00:51:14,182 --> 00:51:15,823
Yeah, I don't know if there's an answer.

848
00:51:15,823 --> 00:51:22,882
I don't have any. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, I'm trying to think, you know.

849
00:51:22,882 --> 00:51:26,282
So like on X, obviously, there isn't all that much.

850
00:51:26,702 --> 00:51:31,902
I suppose there's probably a lack of education about Bitcoin versus crypto.

851
00:51:32,002 --> 00:51:35,422
And it's probably a lot of true scams in crypto, right?

852
00:51:35,742 --> 00:51:41,422
So they're like, OK, all of crypto, every cryptocurrency, just, you know, we shadow ban them so that they don't go.

853
00:51:41,422 --> 00:51:46,182
They don't, you know, basically get hyped up and then people get burnt and then we get sued.

854
00:51:47,082 --> 00:51:50,102
Yeah, I think it's got to be something like that.

855
00:51:50,102 --> 00:52:01,382
And I know I've definitely and unfortunately received attention because you do anything on X and they might try to make a project out of something.

856
00:52:01,563 --> 00:52:07,402
And then they're like at replying you and begging, oh, DM me about this project going to the moon.

857
00:52:07,402 --> 00:52:10,023
And it's like, no, this is my business I'm running.

858
00:52:10,282 --> 00:52:11,422
We're not going to the moon.

859
00:52:11,602 --> 00:52:12,623
You're not going to use me.

860
00:52:12,702 --> 00:52:14,623
I'm not DMing people I don't know.

861
00:52:14,742 --> 00:52:15,023
Goodbye.

862
00:52:15,302 --> 00:52:17,482
You know, so maybe it is something like that.

863
00:52:17,482 --> 00:52:29,182
But yeah, it's interesting to me that any musician we've seen get excited about this sort of space where they could receive Bitcoin in exchange for putting out music.

864
00:52:29,382 --> 00:52:30,502
They get excited about it.

865
00:52:30,682 --> 00:52:37,902
They go back to something like an Instagram and then they realize that nobody's seeing their content anymore right after that Bitcoin content is posted.

866
00:52:38,102 --> 00:52:41,663
So we started warning people, hey, don't talk about Bitcoin on Instagram.

867
00:52:42,023 --> 00:52:44,163
You're going to get downvoted and shadowbanned.

868
00:52:44,163 --> 00:52:47,002
So I don't know if it was that in your case.

869
00:52:47,002 --> 00:53:08,722
For me, I remember I got memorialized. I think another person with my name passed on and I think the family said, hey, can we memorialize her? And so that happened to me. And it took me a few weeks. This was 2019. So it was right after Meta had purchased, you know, Facebook, I guess, had purchased Instagram and it became Meta.

870
00:53:08,722 --> 00:53:12,222
And so I had to email back and forth with Facebook.

871
00:53:12,543 --> 00:53:13,742
I had to give my ID.

872
00:53:13,902 --> 00:53:15,343
I had to prove I wasn't dead.

873
00:53:15,502 --> 00:53:16,482
You know, I have a common name.

874
00:53:17,123 --> 00:53:20,442
And so that's, I did get the account back.

875
00:53:20,523 --> 00:53:22,082
I don't use it now, but it's there.

876
00:53:22,722 --> 00:53:27,843
But it was a pain in the butt because it was kind of how I was promoting my business, which is the same thing you were doing.

877
00:53:27,882 --> 00:53:32,023
You were trying to promote your business and doing the same thing that we all do.

878
00:53:32,082 --> 00:53:33,502
Like I still have an X account.

879
00:53:33,502 --> 00:53:39,902
I might get on my Instagram account soon if I had something compelling, some reason to go there.

880
00:53:40,063 --> 00:53:49,643
Because I still think you do still have to be on the legacy platforms in order to get your music out there, get your whatever your project is.

881
00:53:49,663 --> 00:53:51,902
You want to get it to as many places as possible.

882
00:53:52,782 --> 00:53:56,382
And so then I saw that you guys were getting on Nostra, which is exciting.

883
00:53:56,682 --> 00:54:00,942
And, you know, one, I think Anonymous does great on Nostra.

884
00:54:00,942 --> 00:54:05,123
And I think one of my recent episodes of Detox was hard rock music.

885
00:54:05,623 --> 00:54:06,802
And it's done well, right?

886
00:54:06,942 --> 00:54:09,143
I just did a whole hard rock music episode.

887
00:54:09,663 --> 00:54:12,182
No interview, just total hard rock songs.

888
00:54:12,323 --> 00:54:14,663
Just not every hard rock song, but a bunch of them.

889
00:54:15,143 --> 00:54:16,422
Some old ones, some new ones.

890
00:54:16,523 --> 00:54:17,002
It's a good mix.

891
00:54:17,382 --> 00:54:19,063
And people seem to like that.

892
00:54:19,222 --> 00:54:20,082
They like the music.

893
00:54:20,343 --> 00:54:22,623
So I think Anonymous will do well.

894
00:54:22,802 --> 00:54:26,143
And I don't know where else Anonymous promotes other than Noster.

895
00:54:26,382 --> 00:54:27,922
If he chooses to go the legacy.

896
00:54:27,922 --> 00:54:29,082
I love that, by the way.

897
00:54:29,082 --> 00:54:31,682
I've never heard of that

898
00:54:31,682 --> 00:54:33,302
Like just getting on a show

899
00:54:33,302 --> 00:54:34,523
And just listening to music

900
00:54:34,523 --> 00:54:35,462
That's so nice

901
00:54:35,462 --> 00:54:36,982
Because I don't feel like

902
00:54:36,982 --> 00:54:37,563
They get

903
00:54:37,563 --> 00:54:38,802
Artists get enough

904
00:54:38,802 --> 00:54:40,063
Exposure time

905
00:54:40,063 --> 00:54:41,663
There's so much talent out there

906
00:54:41,663 --> 00:54:43,102
And they just don't

907
00:54:43,102 --> 00:54:43,382
Right

908
00:54:43,382 --> 00:54:44,462
Right

909
00:54:44,462 --> 00:54:45,123
And it's

910
00:54:45,123 --> 00:54:45,962
It's something I think

911
00:54:45,962 --> 00:54:46,643
We need to do more

912
00:54:46,643 --> 00:54:47,782
Because at first I was like

913
00:54:47,782 --> 00:54:48,523
I wonder if people

914
00:54:48,523 --> 00:54:49,262
Are even going to listen

915
00:54:49,262 --> 00:54:50,762
Are people going to sit down

916
00:54:50,762 --> 00:54:52,023
And listen to these episodes

917
00:54:52,023 --> 00:54:53,082
Like I did a hip hop

918
00:54:53,082 --> 00:54:53,623
You know

919
00:54:53,623 --> 00:54:54,462
Running playlist

920
00:54:54,462 --> 00:54:55,482
For Runster episode

921
00:54:55,482 --> 00:54:56,102
Then I did like

922
00:54:56,102 --> 00:54:57,323
Detox Rocks

923
00:54:57,323 --> 00:54:58,282
Hard rock only

924
00:54:58,282 --> 00:55:04,123
episode and, you know, people seem to like it. And I think we've been around long enough with

925
00:55:04,123 --> 00:55:10,382
the music space to where I'm probably going to play some old songs that are old, a couple years

926
00:55:10,382 --> 00:55:14,482
old, right? And then I'm probably going to play some new songs because people are still entering

927
00:55:14,482 --> 00:55:19,222
the space and putting their music out there. And a perfect example of that right now is it's

928
00:55:19,222 --> 00:55:25,422
February 6th again that we're recording this today. And in about a week, we get a new song

929
00:55:25,422 --> 00:55:31,623
from Joe Martin, who has leveraged Geyser pretty well. I think you might be able to tell

930
00:55:31,683 --> 00:55:42,243
A little of the backstory, I know that he had, and he'll be on Radio Detox when the album comes out, but he had a bad experience, to put it lightly, using Kickstarter.

931
00:55:42,603 --> 00:55:46,743
And here's another musician that, like Anonymous, you need music.

932
00:55:47,183 --> 00:55:50,323
Like, to record your music, you need money to record your music.

933
00:55:50,483 --> 00:55:52,803
Recording time in a studio is vital.

934
00:55:53,123 --> 00:55:55,623
Recording that master is very expensive.

935
00:55:55,623 --> 00:56:25,443
And so what Joe tried to do on Kickstarters, I think somebody purchased, I probably have the story wrong in my head, but I think somebody tried to purchase the private concert, which was his big ticket item. And then I think they paid for it, but I don't think Joe got the money. Like something happened and he got rug pulled on Kickstarter pretty bad. But then on Geyser, he started his campaign and got some funding. I'm one of the people, like I bought the CD so that I could support Joe on Geyser. And so that feels really good.

936
00:56:25,623 --> 00:56:30,323
You know, so maybe you have a little behind the scenes there about Joe's Geyser Fund.

937
00:56:31,703 --> 00:56:40,543
I did hear about the same, I think, exactly what you mentioned, that in the end, I think the campaign was really close to happening.

938
00:56:40,803 --> 00:56:44,243
Someone made a final contribution, didn't go through, so the goal didn't get met.

939
00:56:44,383 --> 00:56:45,963
And so the funds had to get returned.

940
00:56:46,463 --> 00:56:47,503
It was very disappointing.

941
00:56:48,423 --> 00:56:52,623
And I guess, you know, that's the cool thing of Bitcoin, right?

942
00:56:52,623 --> 00:56:54,343
and we didn't actually

943
00:56:54,343 --> 00:56:56,183
build it for this use case

944
00:56:56,183 --> 00:56:57,563
because we didn't think

945
00:56:57,563 --> 00:56:59,103
K-Starter would mess up

946
00:56:59,103 --> 00:57:01,163
that bad at that level

947
00:57:01,163 --> 00:57:03,063
but now it's

948
00:57:03,063 --> 00:57:05,663
this all or nothing contract

949
00:57:05,663 --> 00:57:07,243
is decentralized

950
00:57:07,243 --> 00:57:09,863
it's sitting in a smart contract

951
00:57:09,863 --> 00:57:10,903
that is open source

952
00:57:10,903 --> 00:57:12,783
anyone can fund it

953
00:57:12,783 --> 00:57:15,183
even if Geyser were to delist a project

954
00:57:15,183 --> 00:57:17,243
that contract would still exist

955
00:57:17,243 --> 00:57:19,263
and it could still get funded

956
00:57:19,263 --> 00:57:20,343
from other clients

957
00:57:20,343 --> 00:57:21,883
or directly to the

958
00:57:22,623 --> 00:57:29,203
the contract so it's um it's very cool it's very cool technology i hope others pick it up it's

959
00:57:29,203 --> 00:57:35,003
open source so any other client can spin up this all or nothing functionality and do the swaps to

960
00:57:35,003 --> 00:57:40,763
bitcoin from bitcoin to it so yeah i'm really looking forward to joe martin doing a new all

961
00:57:40,763 --> 00:57:47,483
or nothing on bitcoin and then hopefully then we will have fiat to bitcoin payments enabled so

962
00:57:47,483 --> 00:57:53,843
you can also spend with fiat if that's easier and then it goes into rootstock and and executes in

963
00:57:53,843 --> 00:58:00,703
the contract very cool yeah i think uh you know i want to see i think we don't see that much we

964
00:58:00,703 --> 00:58:05,423
haven't seen that much on geyser of artists i think one of my favorite artists on geyser and

965
00:58:05,423 --> 00:58:13,203
in the bitcoin space has been orange pill jam are you familiar with her no she's really amazing

966
00:58:13,203 --> 00:58:16,783
incredible musical genius.

967
00:58:17,563 --> 00:58:17,883
What's that?

968
00:58:18,123 --> 00:58:20,143
And she does all sorts of blending,

969
00:58:20,463 --> 00:58:22,123
different styles of music,

970
00:58:22,223 --> 00:58:23,963
including reggae and other things.

971
00:58:24,783 --> 00:58:25,003
Cool.

972
00:58:25,043 --> 00:58:26,123
And we've seen that.

973
00:58:26,203 --> 00:58:27,403
We've seen a few things here and there.

974
00:58:27,883 --> 00:58:29,683
But I am really hopeful,

975
00:58:29,983 --> 00:58:33,823
really bullish on artists using all or nothing.

976
00:58:34,323 --> 00:58:36,003
Because I understand that

977
00:58:36,003 --> 00:58:38,383
if you're looking to, like an animal,

978
00:58:38,783 --> 00:58:40,283
to produce an album,

979
00:58:40,483 --> 00:58:41,363
that's expensive.

980
00:58:41,363 --> 00:58:44,903
if you're looking to travel to a conference,

981
00:58:45,543 --> 00:58:48,183
because conferences don't pay,

982
00:58:48,823 --> 00:58:52,823
many times they don't pay for the artists to go there.

983
00:58:53,143 --> 00:58:56,283
I've learned, you know, which is crazy to me.

984
00:58:56,603 --> 00:58:59,303
You know who talked about this was Roger 9000.

985
00:59:00,063 --> 00:59:04,463
Roger was talking about this in November when BitFest in Essex.

986
00:59:04,463 --> 00:59:07,063
He was talking about, you know, and I think he's right.

987
00:59:07,223 --> 00:59:08,123
I agree with Roger.

988
00:59:08,263 --> 00:59:11,003
I think a lot of conferences or events will say,

989
00:59:11,003 --> 00:59:17,303
In this space, we want the musicians there, but there's often no money in the projects that we're doing.

990
00:59:17,443 --> 00:59:20,023
So people need flying the artist out.

991
00:59:20,083 --> 00:59:22,603
They're not paying for flight and hotel and meals.

992
00:59:22,603 --> 00:59:29,263
In the traditional music business, if you want an artist to come do a show in your market, you have to pay for those things.

993
00:59:29,363 --> 00:59:31,003
The person comes with a writer and everything.

994
00:59:31,283 --> 00:59:34,863
Like, you know, put the green M&Ms in the green room or whatever it is.

995
00:59:35,183 --> 00:59:37,383
Like, there are things you have to do to bring an artist out there.

996
00:59:37,443 --> 00:59:38,263
They don't work for free.

997
00:59:38,263 --> 00:59:57,383
So I think Roger has a very valid point there. If we want to bring entertainment to Bitcoin conferences or Bitcoin events, we need to pay the artists. Absolutely. And it shouldn't be on them to raise the funds. So if you want to have a show, we got to pay the artist. That's just the rules.

998
00:59:57,383 --> 01:00:03,383
I agree. I mean, totally, totally. And conferences should, especially these super well-funded conferences, you know.

999
01:00:03,883 --> 01:00:04,243
Yeah.

1000
01:00:04,503 --> 01:00:13,903
Now, that said, if they don't do that for whatever reason, it shouldn't be on the artists themselves having to pay for it either.

1001
01:00:14,543 --> 01:00:18,383
So this is where all or nothing can come in, right?

1002
01:00:18,383 --> 01:00:27,023
Right, because the artist can say, fine, but I will only come if I raise at least $1,000 to pay for my ticket.

1003
01:00:27,863 --> 01:00:29,903
Right, and hotel and not two.

1004
01:00:30,283 --> 01:00:30,903
Right, and hotel.

1005
01:00:31,343 --> 01:00:40,623
And so the conference hopefully will then help spread the word around that and just say, let's make sure that Roger 9000 makes it to the show.

1006
01:00:40,843 --> 01:00:42,623
Let's get it to 100%.

1007
01:00:42,623 --> 01:00:45,603
If not, funds go back to you, right?

1008
01:00:45,603 --> 01:00:51,403
so this is where i'm really bullish on musicians because there's all these heavy big costs

1009
01:00:51,403 --> 01:01:00,023
the gear the production it's super expensive travel all of the music is traveling travel is

1010
01:01:00,023 --> 01:01:06,843
expensive and it's all these things excuse me where if you just fundraise before an event

1011
01:01:06,843 --> 01:01:14,403
you can know if there's going to be that um that that level of of market feedback and interest

1012
01:01:14,403 --> 01:01:22,183
and if there isn't well no one gets hurt the show doesn't happen no one gets hurt so i'm hopeful

1013
01:01:22,183 --> 01:01:31,443
that this use case could help find a way for creators to fund their work not waste their time

1014
01:01:31,443 --> 01:01:37,103
on projects that don't benefit or end up being super expensive for them and just come up with

1015
01:01:37,103 --> 01:01:43,383
new big ideas because maybe you have this crazy idea but it's super expensive right maybe you want

1016
01:01:43,383 --> 01:01:51,483
you know make a video album a video music video you know Iceland you need to travel Iceland

1017
01:01:51,483 --> 01:01:59,163
whatever um you can just put the idea there and if it doesn't happen it's it's really not like no

1018
01:01:59,163 --> 01:02:05,403
one gets hurt yeah so you can't lose my hope is that it allows creators just to to get their crazy

1019
01:02:05,403 --> 01:02:13,263
big ideas feel inspired and and pursue their ambitions and put them there and then you know

1020
01:02:13,383 --> 01:02:15,503
It only happens if it gets to 100%.

1021
01:02:15,503 --> 01:02:17,023
No one gets hurt.

1022
01:02:17,443 --> 01:02:18,603
It's a beautiful system.

1023
01:02:18,863 --> 01:02:22,003
I really hope that it unlocks a lot of creative energy.

1024
01:02:22,683 --> 01:02:24,243
Yeah, we're going to get the word out there.

1025
01:02:24,243 --> 01:02:29,163
Now, what are some more of your favorite music artists in this space?

1026
01:02:29,343 --> 01:02:31,343
Favorite songs, favorite artists,

1027
01:02:31,563 --> 01:02:34,603
anything you want to share that you personally like?

1028
01:02:35,963 --> 01:02:38,843
Yeah, so I went to BitFest in Manchester,

1029
01:02:38,843 --> 01:02:45,783
and there was a really cool underground venue where where there was some live music

1030
01:02:45,783 --> 01:02:53,883
there was roger 9000 which i liked there was uh and then there were two other artists one was

1031
01:02:53,883 --> 01:03:04,703
g-o-l-d yes the guy love oh my god yes so talented any chance i could play them on radio detox yes

1032
01:03:04,703 --> 01:03:11,263
yeah any chance it blew me away i had no idea i knew about him as well and i'm just blown away i

1033
01:03:11,263 --> 01:03:17,743
didn't know he was a musician either so and then there's other one you know yeah because yeah from

1034
01:03:17,743 --> 01:03:24,423
london i had known from back in the day and then there's other one called um i have to get it up

1035
01:03:24,423 --> 01:03:32,423
i think it's called is it longy longy yes oh yeah any excuse i can play longy music as well i mean

1036
01:03:32,423 --> 01:03:34,003
he's a true rock star.

1037
01:03:34,343 --> 01:03:36,783
I don't care if the whole world doesn't know about him yet.

1038
01:03:36,903 --> 01:03:40,763
He is a true rock and roll rock star.

1039
01:03:41,223 --> 01:03:43,163
Longy with like all of that long hair too,

1040
01:03:43,263 --> 01:03:43,643
by the way.

1041
01:03:43,823 --> 01:03:48,423
Like nobody has as much hair as Longy and it's just flowing and he's

1042
01:03:48,423 --> 01:03:51,203
rocking and he's one of my favorites too.

1043
01:03:51,243 --> 01:03:53,703
I have not gotten to meet him yet in real life.

1044
01:03:53,703 --> 01:03:57,623
He's been across the pond from me a little too long,

1045
01:03:57,723 --> 01:03:59,443
but I would love to see a Longy show.

1046
01:03:59,543 --> 01:04:02,263
I did get to see Joe Martin in person in Nashville.

1047
01:04:02,423 --> 01:04:08,143
last year so that did work out for me but long long he's on the bucket list of of artists i need

1048
01:04:08,143 --> 01:04:25,574
to see perform you need to honestly honestly live it was spectacular i was i was blown away i was blown away the guy has a dangerous boy kind of charisma Like rock star charisma Exactly

1049
01:04:26,054 --> 01:04:27,114
He's got a rock star.

1050
01:04:27,114 --> 01:04:29,273
He's like a Mick Jagger, but better.

1051
01:04:29,994 --> 01:04:33,054
He's very Kurt Cobain.

1052
01:04:33,893 --> 01:04:37,114
But he's also a very nice person, too.

1053
01:04:37,114 --> 01:04:41,393
I don't think he's literally a danger boy like a Kurt Cobain.

1054
01:04:42,093 --> 01:04:45,773
He's not like a crazy wild Keith Richards.

1055
01:04:45,793 --> 01:04:46,814
Trouble, like trouble.

1056
01:04:47,393 --> 01:04:48,273
Yeah, he's not trouble.

1057
01:04:48,413 --> 01:04:51,673
He's actually a nice guy, family guy.

1058
01:04:52,694 --> 01:04:55,293
Not to put too much of his personal info out there.

1059
01:04:55,374 --> 01:04:57,833
But yeah, he's a good, nice person.

1060
01:04:58,153 --> 01:04:59,173
When did you meet him?

1061
01:04:59,833 --> 01:05:03,793
Online met him last season of Radio Detox.

1062
01:05:03,874 --> 01:05:05,653
Got to talk to him and Aaron of Essex.

1063
01:05:05,754 --> 01:05:06,173
Nice.

1064
01:05:06,634 --> 01:05:12,273
Aaron, one of the best, I guess, evangelists for what we're doing with the music

1065
01:05:12,273 --> 01:05:17,513
and getting people to perform live and just hype in the crowd and getting people.

1066
01:05:18,213 --> 01:05:21,833
Because he did the meetup, the Bitcoin Essex meetup for so long.

1067
01:05:21,833 --> 01:05:25,673
And then he started getting into the music and like the music thing just clicked for him.

1068
01:05:25,853 --> 01:05:29,473
And so he's like, you know, listen to Nathan Abbott, listen to Longy.

1069
01:05:29,533 --> 01:05:34,213
He's kind of like our hype man for all the good bands across the pond.

1070
01:05:34,413 --> 01:05:39,533
We need that. We need kind of somebody in every region of every country.

1071
01:05:39,533 --> 01:05:46,173
You know, we've got, you know, like if I were to pick in Arizona, you know, we've got Sam Means here, you know, where I live in the desert.

1072
01:05:46,293 --> 01:05:49,593
And then like in San Diego, we've got Sarah Jade and Nashville.

1073
01:05:49,593 --> 01:05:51,093
We've got Ainsley Costello.

1074
01:05:51,554 --> 01:05:59,994
And we just we got to get these, I don't know, community hubs going because there's a lot of good bands out in that Essex, Manchester kind of area.

1075
01:06:00,614 --> 01:06:01,994
You know, you've got some good people.

1076
01:06:02,233 --> 01:06:07,153
Aaron of Essex will shout it from the rooftops whenever somebody's got a new song.

1077
01:06:07,153 --> 01:06:08,173
He'll be on Noster.

1078
01:06:08,333 --> 01:06:09,074
He'll be on Twitter.

1079
01:06:09,533 --> 01:06:10,934
Now listen to this new song.

1080
01:06:11,353 --> 01:06:12,213
Get it on found.

1081
01:06:12,393 --> 01:06:13,533
Listen to him now.

1082
01:06:13,694 --> 01:06:14,533
Boost him up.

1083
01:06:14,754 --> 01:06:16,434
And like we need that kind of energy.

1084
01:06:16,614 --> 01:06:18,954
I think Aaron is just so good at doing that.

1085
01:06:19,153 --> 01:06:20,093
I mean, he's just great.

1086
01:06:20,333 --> 01:06:21,374
Like we got it.

1087
01:06:21,434 --> 01:06:22,413
We got to get some more of that.

1088
01:06:22,554 --> 01:06:22,934
We got to get more.

1089
01:06:22,954 --> 01:06:23,273
Yeah, Aaron is insane.

1090
01:06:23,973 --> 01:06:25,153
Yeah, we need more Aaron's.

1091
01:06:25,213 --> 01:06:26,333
We need more Longy's.

1092
01:06:26,454 --> 01:06:28,413
I mean, I can't duplicate Longy though.

1093
01:06:28,673 --> 01:06:30,614
I mean, that's lightning in a bottle.

1094
01:06:30,874 --> 01:06:32,833
I mean, you're not going to find that kind of person again.

1095
01:06:32,833 --> 01:06:37,353
But I would wager to say there are probably, if there's one Longy,

1096
01:06:37,353 --> 01:06:44,673
there's probably hundreds of more musicians of that caliber who are independent and you're never

1097
01:06:44,673 --> 01:06:49,853
going to hear them on Spotify. You're not going to see them on Apple Music talking to Zane Lowe or

1098
01:06:49,853 --> 01:06:54,814
whoever. Like how are people discovering mainstream music anymore? Probably through their friends or

1099
01:06:54,814 --> 01:07:01,713
maybe. People tell me, I worked in radios starting 28 years ago and in the last 10 years or so, I can

1100
01:07:01,713 --> 01:07:06,913
tell you categorically, if I told somebody I worked in radio, people say, oh, I don't listen to the

1101
01:07:06,913 --> 01:07:12,413
radio anymore. I don't listen to that. Or people really try to sound snooty here in the U.S., Mick,

1102
01:07:12,454 --> 01:07:17,273
and they're just like, I don't listen to me. I don't listen. I only listen to NPR. You know,

1103
01:07:17,333 --> 01:07:22,754
it's just like what a funny one. What are people discovering their music? And especially with

1104
01:07:22,754 --> 01:07:28,254
people having this campaign now to ditch Spotify because of what they've done here in the U.S.,

1105
01:07:28,254 --> 01:07:33,033
playing ice ads. You know, that's that's like the final straw for a lot of people. For some people,

1106
01:07:33,033 --> 01:07:35,533
It was the operating system change last year.

1107
01:07:35,614 --> 01:07:36,673
Now it's politics.

1108
01:07:36,994 --> 01:07:43,533
And so it's like there are so many of these great artists and they are working their asses off like Longy.

1109
01:07:43,694 --> 01:07:45,473
And they need to be discovered.

1110
01:07:45,473 --> 01:08:01,454
There's no other way some of these voices are going to make it unless it's Wavelake, Fountain, podcasters like me who are independent, playing independent music, people getting on Geyser Fund like Joe Martin and Anonymous, even Ivy Lumi.

1111
01:08:01,454 --> 01:08:08,954
Anyone who's using it to help them make an album, I mean, this is becoming the way that we're getting in the news and getting exposure.

1112
01:08:09,293 --> 01:08:12,574
The news of, you know, I'm not news, but I'm independent media.

1113
01:08:13,194 --> 01:08:15,653
You know, like we got to get people out there with this talent.

1114
01:08:15,954 --> 01:08:16,093
Totally.

1115
01:08:16,454 --> 01:08:22,913
It's about putting ourselves there and finding all sorts of ways that we can to increase our reach.

1116
01:08:23,413 --> 01:08:29,434
And sometimes increasing our reach just means funding things that will enable us to increase our reach, right?

1117
01:08:29,434 --> 01:08:43,033
Maybe it's, again, producing like an animal or maybe, you know, creating a banger music video that will go viral and it will be very expensive to make and maybe the community can chip in for it, right?

1118
01:08:43,173 --> 01:08:46,214
But yeah, it's all these tools.

1119
01:08:46,393 --> 01:08:47,873
It's the community ultimately, right?

1120
01:08:47,893 --> 01:08:56,353
It's the community, like what you're doing, you know, making a podcast and being so from how you speak, you're so deep in this network.

1121
01:08:56,513 --> 01:08:57,834
And it's so beautiful to see that.

1122
01:08:57,834 --> 01:09:00,393
and yeah, just having the community come together,

1123
01:09:00,513 --> 01:09:03,434
support each other like a community, like a family.

1124
01:09:04,153 --> 01:09:08,253
Yeah, help this community thrive and help it grow,

1125
01:09:09,153 --> 01:09:10,574
help it reach new heights.

1126
01:09:11,614 --> 01:09:13,593
Yeah, well, I appreciate that, Mick.

1127
01:09:13,633 --> 01:09:14,133
Thank you.

1128
01:09:14,253 --> 01:09:15,694
Thank you for being my guest today.

1129
01:09:15,834 --> 01:09:17,893
Thanks for what you're doing with Geyser.

1130
01:09:18,093 --> 01:09:20,574
You know, this work that we're doing isn't easy.

1131
01:09:20,574 --> 01:09:22,473
You know, we're essentially operating

1132
01:09:22,473 --> 01:09:23,834
kind of in our own niche, right?

1133
01:09:23,954 --> 01:09:25,133
Kind of in our own bubble.

1134
01:09:25,454 --> 01:09:27,814
And sometimes it can be discouraging

1135
01:09:27,814 --> 01:09:31,413
because I know we're all trying to reach beyond the bubble

1136
01:09:31,413 --> 01:09:33,494
and we know that the adoption

1137
01:09:33,494 --> 01:09:35,373
or the hyper-Bitcoinization is coming,

1138
01:09:35,494 --> 01:09:36,413
but right now we're like,

1139
01:09:36,893 --> 01:09:38,293
hey, we're watching the price fall

1140
01:09:38,293 --> 01:09:40,454
and seeing if people will spend some money

1141
01:09:40,454 --> 01:09:42,133
on anything whatsoever.

1142
01:09:42,733 --> 01:09:44,393
We're still such a small scale.

1143
01:09:44,533 --> 01:09:46,714
It'll be interesting to see where we are

1144
01:09:46,714 --> 01:09:48,393
and Geyser for sure.

1145
01:09:48,853 --> 01:09:52,694
You guys keep showing up in the space and innovating

1146
01:09:52,694 --> 01:09:55,033
and I really appreciate what you guys do.

1147
01:09:55,293 --> 01:09:56,373
Thank you and likewise,

1148
01:09:56,373 --> 01:09:57,473
very much appreciate

1149
01:09:57,473 --> 01:10:00,574
you spreading the word about these great projects

1150
01:10:00,574 --> 01:10:02,533
next up you should do one

1151
01:10:02,533 --> 01:10:03,973
with Anonymous before he

1152
01:10:03,973 --> 01:10:06,214
ends his campaign

1153
01:10:06,214 --> 01:10:08,593
that's right we gotta get Anonymous on

1154
01:10:08,593 --> 01:10:10,574
here we gotta get the Anonymous story

1155
01:10:10,574 --> 01:10:11,733
you know that's the thing too

1156
01:10:11,733 --> 01:10:14,413
learning about the artists too

1157
01:10:14,413 --> 01:10:15,653
it's like we have

1158
01:10:15,653 --> 01:10:18,454
I have to do it so that I can learn anything about them

1159
01:10:18,454 --> 01:10:20,614
and we need a lot more of me

1160
01:10:20,614 --> 01:10:22,633
to do the same thing and learn about

1161
01:10:22,633 --> 01:10:24,733
all of the artists too as we bring

1162
01:10:24,733 --> 01:10:25,913
more people into the space

1163
01:10:25,913 --> 01:10:28,753
So I'm going to do an excellent idea.

1164
01:10:29,733 --> 01:10:33,314
We'll be listening in live and funding Anonymous.

1165
01:10:34,633 --> 01:10:35,214
Go Anonymous.

1166
01:10:37,013 --> 01:10:37,913
Yeah, indeed.

1167
01:10:39,173 --> 01:10:40,434
Thank you so much, Heather.

1168
01:10:40,574 --> 01:10:41,593
It was really a true pleasure.

1169
01:10:42,753 --> 01:10:43,893
Thank you, Mick.

1170
01:10:45,314 --> 01:10:46,673
From my brother Lee Copsey,

1171
01:10:47,033 --> 01:10:48,074
he's positively unemployed.

1172
01:10:55,913 --> 01:11:13,114
When I think about getting up

1173
01:11:13,114 --> 01:11:15,853
I'm dressed with a coffee cup

1174
01:11:15,853 --> 01:11:19,334
I'm looking through the papers and the magazines

1175
01:11:19,334 --> 01:11:21,954
Every pair tell you me to lose my dreams

1176
01:11:21,954 --> 01:11:23,913
It's a growl in the day

1177
01:11:23,913 --> 01:11:26,853
And it just won't go away

1178
01:11:26,853 --> 01:11:29,653
I'm staring at my little girl

1179
01:11:29,653 --> 01:11:32,214
Through the windscreen of a car

1180
01:11:32,214 --> 01:11:34,233
Well is it alright

1181
01:11:34,233 --> 01:11:38,454
From machines to light in the factory walls

1182
01:11:38,454 --> 01:11:39,673
Is it alright

1183
01:11:39,673 --> 01:11:43,954
Well they're both in a third-night store

1184
01:11:43,954 --> 01:11:45,273
Is it alright

1185
01:11:45,273 --> 01:11:48,873
Whom am I to trust

1186
01:11:48,873 --> 01:11:50,814
Well is it alright

1187
01:11:50,814 --> 01:11:52,873
I hope for you

1188
01:11:52,873 --> 01:11:54,753
I'm enough

1189
01:11:54,753 --> 01:11:57,353
Are you ever gonna

1190
01:11:57,353 --> 01:11:59,653
Live this life

1191
01:11:59,653 --> 01:12:02,373
If the walls you put up

1192
01:12:02,373 --> 01:12:05,614
Are the streets in the lies

1193
01:12:05,614 --> 01:12:08,314
Are you ever gonna

1194
01:12:08,314 --> 01:12:10,554
Feel such love

1195
01:12:10,554 --> 01:12:13,334
If the hope you take

1196
01:12:13,334 --> 01:12:15,973
The cage that I'm alive

1197
01:12:15,973 --> 01:12:16,673
You can't

1198
01:12:22,873 --> 01:12:32,434
Am I a scribble on a page? No time to be afraid

1199
01:12:32,434 --> 01:12:37,974
Well I refuse to be a number As I'm briefcase or vulture

1200
01:12:37,974 --> 01:12:43,393
And I'm not seeking no allowance No greed or power

1201
01:12:43,393 --> 01:12:48,574
Job classified, please apply Take the boxes and stand in line

1202
01:12:48,574 --> 01:12:50,574
Well is it alright?

1203
01:12:50,574 --> 01:12:54,574
From machines to line the factory walls

1204
01:12:54,574 --> 01:12:56,574
Is it alright?

1205
01:12:56,574 --> 01:12:59,574
But it brought in up another store

1206
01:12:59,574 --> 01:13:02,574
Is it alright?

1207
01:13:02,574 --> 01:13:04,574
Whom are mine to trust?

1208
01:13:04,574 --> 01:13:15,984
Well is it alright I hope for you I mean not How you ever gonna live this life

1209
01:13:16,284 --> 01:13:21,944
If the walls you pull up are stressed in lies

1210
01:13:21,944 --> 01:13:27,064
How you ever gonna feel such love?

1211
01:13:27,604 --> 01:13:33,744
If all you would stay, just caged by the life you can't be done

1212
01:13:34,904 --> 01:13:55,624
Oh, is he alright?

1213
01:13:55,624 --> 01:13:56,304
Well, is he alright?

1214
01:13:56,964 --> 01:13:59,704
The machines align, the factory was

1215
01:13:59,704 --> 01:14:01,424
Is he alright?

1216
01:14:01,424 --> 01:14:06,424
When I brought in up another storm, is it alright?

1217
01:14:07,424 --> 01:14:11,424
Who knows how to trust? Well, is it alright?

1218
01:14:12,424 --> 01:14:15,424
I hope for you, I mean, oh

1219
01:14:15,424 --> 01:14:19,424
How you ever gonna live this life

1220
01:14:20,424 --> 01:14:26,424
If the walls in power are just stretched in the eyes

1221
01:14:26,424 --> 01:14:28,424
Asia

1222
01:14:34,224 --> 01:14:36,224
Dave

1223
01:14:47,824 --> 01:14:49,924
teja

1224
01:14:56,424 --> 01:15:26,404
Thank you.

1225
01:15:26,424 --> 01:15:40,904
I thought you learned a gun.

1226
01:15:40,904 --> 01:15:45,924
Well, there ain't been much work of laying

1227
01:15:45,924 --> 01:15:48,144
Can't find my head

1228
01:15:48,144 --> 01:15:50,064
We've been arguing

1229
01:15:50,064 --> 01:15:54,064
Showering down these walls

1230
01:15:54,064 --> 01:15:57,704
Don't find it easy

1231
01:15:57,704 --> 01:16:00,004
Walking in the skin

1232
01:16:00,004 --> 01:16:05,664
I can't focus at all

1233
01:16:05,664 --> 01:16:10,564
And the hours seem to slip away

1234
01:16:10,564 --> 01:16:14,064
This hope I hold slips away

1235
01:16:14,064 --> 01:16:19,184
I'm calling out your name

1236
01:16:19,184 --> 01:16:21,684
Like some movie room

1237
01:16:21,684 --> 01:16:23,444
Memory stream

1238
01:16:23,444 --> 01:16:24,844
You broke the glass

1239
01:16:24,844 --> 01:16:26,524
That kept you clean

1240
01:16:26,524 --> 01:16:32,424
I'm calling out your name

1241
01:16:32,424 --> 01:16:37,704
If I'm a substitute

1242
01:16:37,704 --> 01:16:41,484
you for what you really want.

1243
01:16:41,484 --> 01:16:46,484
And I can go, yeah, I can go.

1244
01:16:47,744 --> 01:16:53,484
And don't you close the doors, yeah, on the love that I pull up.

1245
01:16:54,064 --> 01:16:59,344
Because I can go, yeah, I can go.

1246
01:17:07,704 --> 01:17:16,224
I look through the windscreen

1247
01:17:16,224 --> 01:17:18,584
These buckles long

1248
01:17:18,584 --> 01:17:20,644
Head back

1249
01:17:20,644 --> 01:17:23,904
Slowly lifts my view

1250
01:17:23,904 --> 01:17:26,124
Smell diesel

1251
01:17:26,124 --> 01:17:29,344
The red hoppers fruit

1252
01:17:29,344 --> 01:17:31,944
It's gonna burn

1253
01:17:31,944 --> 01:17:34,704
Burn, burn, burn

1254
01:17:34,704 --> 01:17:39,404
So how you gonna feel

1255
01:17:39,404 --> 01:17:42,264
That life begins to feel

1256
01:17:42,264 --> 01:17:45,504
And how you gonna learn

1257
01:17:45,504 --> 01:17:48,344
So the dark don't return

1258
01:17:48,344 --> 01:17:52,024
And the hours seem to slip away

1259
01:17:52,024 --> 01:17:55,344
Swope out, it slips away

1260
01:17:55,344 --> 01:18:00,384
I'm calling out your name

1261
01:18:00,384 --> 01:18:02,664
The lights don't move, it'll be real

1262
01:18:02,664 --> 01:18:05,544
Every stream we broke the glass

1263
01:18:05,544 --> 01:18:07,944
Kept you clean up

1264
01:18:07,944 --> 01:18:11,864
I'm calling out your name

1265
01:18:11,864 --> 01:18:14,504
If I'm a substitute

1266
01:18:14,504 --> 01:18:18,084
For what you really want

1267
01:18:18,084 --> 01:18:19,864
And I can go

1268
01:18:19,864 --> 01:18:23,284
I can go

1269
01:18:23,284 --> 01:18:26,264
And don't you close the door

1270
01:18:26,264 --> 01:18:27,024
And shout

1271
01:18:27,024 --> 01:18:29,704
On a love that I've walked

1272
01:18:29,704 --> 01:18:31,824
Cause I can go

1273
01:18:31,824 --> 01:18:34,824
I can go

1274
01:18:34,824 --> 01:18:37,824
If I'm a substitute

1275
01:18:37,824 --> 01:18:41,904
For what you really want

1276
01:18:41,904 --> 01:18:43,824
I can go

1277
01:18:43,824 --> 01:18:47,824
I can go

1278
01:18:47,824 --> 01:18:50,044
And don't close the door

1279
01:18:50,044 --> 01:18:53,824
Shine on the love that I pull up

1280
01:18:53,824 --> 01:18:55,824
Cause I can go

1281
01:18:55,824 --> 01:18:59,824
I can go

1282
01:19:01,824 --> 01:19:31,804
Oh, oh, oh

1283
01:19:31,824 --> 01:19:34,824
I know

1284
01:19:34,824 --> 01:19:38,824
I know

1285
01:19:38,824 --> 01:19:44,824
I know

1286
01:19:44,824 --> 01:19:46,824
I know

1287
01:19:46,824 --> 01:19:48,824
I know

1288
01:19:48,824 --> 01:20:01,824
If I'm a substitute

1289
01:20:01,824 --> 01:20:04,824
For what you really want

1290
01:20:05,504 --> 01:20:06,824
Then I can go

1291
01:20:07,644 --> 01:20:10,824
Yeah, I can go

1292
01:20:10,824 --> 01:20:14,824
But don't you close the door, shout

1293
01:20:14,824 --> 01:20:17,504
And the love that I pour

1294
01:20:17,504 --> 01:20:24,504
I can go home, yeah I can go home.

1295
01:20:47,504 --> 01:21:01,184
Okay.

1296
01:21:17,504 --> 01:21:39,384
I blew the blue

1297
01:21:39,384 --> 01:21:41,844
That walk through these sunken eyes

1298
01:21:41,844 --> 01:21:42,904
Just telling the truth

1299
01:21:42,904 --> 01:21:44,764
I've wasted time, I know

1300
01:21:44,764 --> 01:21:47,664
Time to run, no wrath to flow

1301
01:21:47,664 --> 01:21:50,444
It's distance trying to make us hate

1302
01:21:50,444 --> 01:21:52,884
But I won't break, no I won't stray

1303
01:21:52,884 --> 01:22:05,314
Upon this mountainside I see you both inside You gotta hold on You gotta hold on

1304
01:22:05,314 --> 01:22:10,454
You gotta hold on

1305
01:22:10,454 --> 01:22:16,014
You gotta hold on

1306
01:22:16,014 --> 01:22:19,214
When I'm broken

1307
01:22:19,214 --> 01:22:21,714
When I'm left open

1308
01:22:21,714 --> 01:22:23,614
When I am wounded

1309
01:22:23,614 --> 01:22:26,954
And I'll say about the way I play this life

1310
01:22:26,954 --> 01:22:31,874
I just fall into your healing hands

1311
01:22:31,874 --> 01:22:37,634
I just fall into your healing hands

1312
01:22:47,634 --> 01:22:50,714
I hear the voices telling me

1313
01:22:50,714 --> 01:22:54,534
There is no time to stumble every slipstream

1314
01:22:54,534 --> 01:22:57,694
Trying to hold on to life but life

1315
01:22:57,694 --> 01:23:01,114
I cross the glaciers for days on end

1316
01:23:01,114 --> 01:23:04,974
God, I need to hold on

1317
01:23:04,974 --> 01:23:09,454
And the wave and the pain

1318
01:23:09,454 --> 01:23:13,014
Well, it slowly rips me up inside, give me life

1319
01:23:13,014 --> 01:23:17,154
Through the rain and the wind I know I'm running from

1320
01:23:17,154 --> 01:23:20,334
I see an opening up ahead

1321
01:23:20,334 --> 01:23:25,334
God I need to hold on

1322
01:23:25,334 --> 01:23:30,334
You gotta hold on

1323
01:23:30,334 --> 01:23:35,334
You gotta hold on

1324
01:23:35,334 --> 01:23:41,334
You gotta hold on

1325
01:23:41,334 --> 01:23:45,334
You gotta hold on

1326
01:23:45,334 --> 01:23:51,474
When I'm broken, when I'm left open

1327
01:23:51,474 --> 01:23:56,694
When I am wounded, and I'll tip out the way I play this life

1328
01:23:56,694 --> 01:24:01,614
I just fall into your healing hands

1329
01:24:01,614 --> 01:24:07,354
I just fall into your healing hands

1330
01:24:15,334 --> 01:24:19,514
How come this pain is just inside of me

1331
01:24:19,514 --> 01:24:21,954
With just another love in me

1332
01:24:21,954 --> 01:24:24,094
I'm on the wall fighting

1333
01:24:24,094 --> 01:24:26,294
Just to get to you

1334
01:24:26,294 --> 01:24:28,734
You know I'm stronger in this storm

1335
01:24:28,734 --> 01:24:31,254
Baby, I'm all caught in this storm

1336
01:24:31,254 --> 01:24:36,194
Baby, hold on, hold on

1337
01:24:36,194 --> 01:24:41,014
When I'm broken, when I'm left open

1338
01:24:41,014 --> 01:24:44,394
When I'm wounded, I'll tip out

1339
01:24:44,394 --> 01:24:46,154
The way I played this life

1340
01:24:46,154 --> 01:24:50,934
I just fall into your healing hands

1341
01:24:50,934 --> 01:24:55,994
I just fall into your healing hands

1342
01:24:55,994 --> 01:24:59,994
I just fall into your healing hands

1343
01:24:59,994 --> 01:25:01,994
Yeah

1344
01:25:29,994 --> 01:25:56,694
Shove

1345
01:25:59,994 --> 01:26:10,794
I was doing all right.

1346
01:26:11,694 --> 01:26:15,954
I thought I knew where I belong.

1347
01:26:16,294 --> 01:26:20,014
Just another no be doing fine.

1348
01:26:20,394 --> 01:26:25,394
Now I found a hard little floor line.

1349
01:26:25,394 --> 01:26:30,774
And I don't know where you came from

1350
01:26:30,774 --> 01:26:34,974
And I don't know what your fate are

1351
01:26:34,974 --> 01:26:38,754
But the world has changed from around

1352
01:26:38,754 --> 01:26:50,474
Satoshi, Satoshi, Satoshi gave me wind

1353
01:26:50,474 --> 01:26:54,414
Loving Satoshi, Satoshi

1354
01:26:54,414 --> 01:26:58,134
Satoshi sent us free

1355
01:26:58,134 --> 01:27:02,314
Satoshi's U.S.E.

1356
01:27:02,314 --> 01:27:06,714
And I know they don't believe me

1357
01:27:06,714 --> 01:27:10,714
And I know they can see me

1358
01:27:10,714 --> 01:27:14,794
But the world has changed forever

1359
01:27:14,794 --> 01:27:22,414
Now I'm stacking Satoshi

1360
01:27:22,414 --> 01:27:27,774
Freaking NGU Technology

1361
01:27:27,774 --> 01:27:31,994
I was fucking working for Fiat

1362
01:27:31,994 --> 01:27:38,274
Now I'm already killed myself at night

1363
01:27:38,274 --> 01:27:42,994
And I don't know where you came from

1364
01:27:42,994 --> 01:27:46,894
Though I don't know where you went to

1365
01:27:46,894 --> 01:27:50,834
The world had changed forever

1366
01:27:50,834 --> 01:27:56,414
Satoshi

1367
01:27:56,414 --> 01:27:58,414
Satoshi

1368
01:27:58,414 --> 01:28:00,294
Satoshi

1369
01:28:00,294 --> 01:28:02,534
Gave us wings

1370
01:28:02,534 --> 01:28:04,434
Loving Satoshi

1371
01:28:04,434 --> 01:28:06,434
Satoshi

1372
01:28:06,434 --> 01:28:08,334
Satoshi

1373
01:28:08,334 --> 01:28:10,154
Set us free

1374
01:28:10,154 --> 01:28:12,414
Satoshi

1375
01:28:12,414 --> 01:28:14,314
Is here we'll be

1376
01:28:14,314 --> 01:28:16,434
Satoshi

1377
01:28:16,434 --> 01:28:18,414
Satoshi

1378
01:28:18,414 --> 01:28:20,274
Satoshi

1379
01:28:20,274 --> 01:28:22,274
gave us queen

1380
01:28:22,274 --> 01:28:24,434
loving Satoshi

1381
01:28:24,434 --> 01:28:26,434
Satoshi

1382
01:28:26,434 --> 01:28:28,274
Satoshi

1383
01:28:28,274 --> 01:28:30,354
set us free

1384
01:28:30,354 --> 01:28:32,434
Satoshi

1385
01:28:32,434 --> 01:28:34,174
is you and me

1386
01:28:34,174 --> 01:28:36,354
Satoshi

1387
01:28:36,354 --> 01:28:38,434
Satoshi

1388
01:28:38,434 --> 01:28:40,294
Satoshi

1389
01:28:40,294 --> 01:28:42,454
gave us queen

1390
01:28:42,454 --> 01:28:44,414
loving Satoshi

1391
01:28:44,414 --> 01:28:46,434
Satoshi

1392
01:28:46,434 --> 01:28:48,274
Satoshi

1393
01:28:48,274 --> 01:28:50,254
set us free

1394
01:28:50,254 --> 01:28:54,214
Satoshi's you and me

1395
01:28:54,214 --> 01:28:56,414
Satoshi

1396
01:28:56,414 --> 01:28:58,434
Satoshi

1397
01:28:58,434 --> 01:29:02,634
Satoshi gave us wings

1398
01:29:02,634 --> 01:29:04,434
Loving Satoshi

1399
01:29:04,434 --> 01:29:06,414
Satoshi

1400
01:29:06,414 --> 01:29:10,194
Satoshi set us free

1401
01:29:10,194 --> 01:29:14,194
Satoshi you and me

1402
01:29:14,194 --> 01:29:16,414
Satoshi

1403
01:29:16,414 --> 01:29:18,494
Satoshi

1404
01:29:18,494 --> 01:29:20,434
Satoshi

1405
01:29:20,434 --> 01:29:22,414
Gave us free

1406
01:29:22,414 --> 01:29:24,314
Love and Satoshi

1407
01:29:24,314 --> 01:29:26,434
Satoshi

1408
01:29:26,434 --> 01:29:28,414
Satoshi

1409
01:29:28,414 --> 01:29:30,234
Set us free

1410
01:29:30,234 --> 01:29:32,354
Satoshi

1411
01:29:32,354 --> 01:29:34,194
It's you and me

1412
01:29:34,194 --> 01:29:36,414
Satoshi

1413
01:29:36,414 --> 01:29:38,414
Satoshi

1414
01:29:38,414 --> 01:29:40,414
Satoshi

1415
01:29:40,414 --> 01:29:42,374
Gave us free

1416
01:29:42,374 --> 01:29:44,414
Love and Satoshi

1417
01:29:44,414 --> 01:30:14,394
Satoshi, Satoshi set us free, Satoshi you and we, Satoshi set us free, Satoshi you and

1418
01:30:14,414 --> 01:30:18,234
Satoshi, you and me.

1419
01:30:20,814 --> 01:30:25,974
We are all Satoshi.

1420
01:30:44,414 --> 01:31:14,394
Thank you.