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I think this is the beginning of the apocalypse.

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The Greek word apocalypse means the revealing.

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Privacy does not exist. Your children will never have the opportunity or freedom to

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be able to actually develop themselves as free, sovereign individuals that can make

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choices. If we sleepwalk into totalitarianism, there will be too much for the

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individual to surpass. This is the mark of the fucking beast.

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This is a unitary global panopticon that wants to know and surveil

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everyone, everywhere, all the time.

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It's ultimately like being in an aquarium and when you hit up against the

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guardrails, you can't see it. They are terrified of what happens when you have

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power. You are an enemy to them.

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This is truly what we have to reckon with.

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People would rather believe a comfortable lie than an uncomfortable truth.

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If you perhaps know the truth but are afraid to speak it, I hope that this show

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gives you a little bit more confidence to do so.

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What does it mean that you get to live in inside of a gilded cage?

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Still a cage? Freedoms are something that you take, right?

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We're not giving them, but you're already free.

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I will not do that. I will fight that.

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I will burn it down. I will let them kill me before they do that.

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There is an existence that comes before and after our lives.

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This is spiritual. This is about our soul.

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They're not even aware that the P(boom) has the potential to really exist.

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We could actually live without war or violence, that we could be peaceful and happy

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people.

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There are more reasons for hope than for despair, apocalypse or abundance.

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That is up to us.

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What we're even just trying to share and build right now is like, this is the subset

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of what everyone's going to be doing in the future.

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And like, like you and me are not software developers.

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We don't, we don't know what we're really doing, but the great thing is, is Claude's

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a really good software developer and he can help with a lot of stuff.

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And even better is that like when Claude refuses to do your work, because, you know,

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like you're asking questions that are inappropriate according to, you know, the

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Panopticon surveillance machine.

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You can go ask Kimi or DeepSeek or these other great Chinese friends who for

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some weird reason, even though the Chinese Communist Party is pretty fucking evil,

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took a pretty strong approach with making sure that they're going to destroy the

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American economy, which they seem to be winning.

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And people seem to be waking up to the fact that Che GPT and Anthropic are not going

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to be, you know, five trillion dollar companies that dominate the American economy.

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Like they're actually going to rip the base out of the economy and probably cause

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for some really fucked up stuff to happen.

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It really is fascinating to see people's brains break a little bit with the

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Chinese open source models, right?

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I think people who are using them or people who are kind of have thought about this

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for more than, you know, a few seconds and have thought about this a little bit more

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deeply realize exactly what you just said, like, okay, so they made a, because

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obviously the Chinese Communist Party is pretty good at shutting things down if they

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want to write their, I mean, not so much Bitcoin.

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They've struggled with that, right?

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But I think a lot of that was also led to happen sort of in the background.

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I mean, it's a, it's a communist country.

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So bribes are very much, you know, still a, still a thing, even if they like to say

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that they aren't, but the it's, it's going to be fascinating to see how quickly this

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sort of unravels because China obviously made the value judgment to say, okay,

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let's, let's think about this. Well, we usually that we kind of wouldn't do this and

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we, you know, this is, you know, our people might get access to this somehow, which

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we can't exactly have, you know, at least not our control.

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And when you go to, when you go to, you know, get, get Kimmy, if you like go on the

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website, I'm sure people know this, but like, it's, there's a separate, like

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separate checkbox for mainland China.

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Like they still, their own people, it's like, they're exporting this to the world.

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This is not as much, this is a tool that's used differently with different levels of

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surveillance if you're in mainland China.

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But the Chinese are brilliant with their long-term strategy.

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And like, that's really important to understand is like, we have a four year

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political cycle. They do not like they, they can plan long-term and they have.

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That's why we've watched their entire economy transformed since the 1990s when Deng

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Xiaoping like made the decision after Tiananmen Square, where he was like, okay,

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like we hear the message. You guys will get economic freedom.

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You will not get political freedom.

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And so the same tactic was applied here where they're like, okay, like we got to do

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a compromise here. Like we're going to give you guys these tools for compute.

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However, beforehand, we're going to lock down the actual physical security

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panopticon in mainland China. So that like, if you are doing naughty shit with your

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open source AI, we will find you because like we have the heuristic capacity to

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locate you. But now that we have these free and open source models, we're going to

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deploy this shit in America. We're going to load the zero.

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We're going to push software production to a zero lower bound cost to where it

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doesn't make sense to have a software company.

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And it turns out that these American labs that now seem to be a very large part of

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the American tech economy, they don't have any kind of a moat.

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It's also clear that like, if you need access to tools to say break something or to

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like solve something that's broken on the Internet, which is now everything, it

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seems like they'll refuse you. And even more interestingly is, you know, like my

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friend Anthony, we're hanging at Maple AI.

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He tweeted this morning pointing out there's this very suspicious pattern of where

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key researchers in their field, whether it's mathematics or security, seem to be

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using these tools, not finding anything.

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And then, whoa, two weeks later, OpenAI has a giant report about how the thing that

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they were looking to in their field of expertise, they didn't find it, but OpenAI

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did. And it's like these, so like they're they're stealing your work and presenting

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it as their own. They're clearly manipulating our thoughts.

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And that's the other one to not speak about about China is that.

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Like, it's pretty clear to me that, like, there's thought traces in there that are

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manipulated in a particular way.

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And I think that this is the really dangerous stuff about not having access to the

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pre-training data and not having open weights is that, like, we don't we don't

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actually understand how it's manipulating us right now.

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And like, even with the open source models, even with open weights, like, if we

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don't have the pre-training data, like, that's problematic as well.

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So, like, again, we're like in the first innings.

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These are really powerful tools that we like now we now have the recipe for LLMs,

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like how to bake a fucking cake.

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And that was like a discovery. And like, there's really effective and new and

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different ways to like make cakes and frosting and all of the stuff that goes with

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it. And so I'm convinced that we're going to essentially take the Chinese open

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source tools. We're going to make all of these AIs collaborate with each other to

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get like open source pre-training data that we've all sort of agreed upon is like

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the human corpus of data and not just fucking slop.

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And then we'll start making actual artificial intelligence.

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Because like right now what we have, it's like we're calling it artificial

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intelligence. But the problem is, is that like it's the intelligence that is

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artificial is corporate and government intelligence.

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Like they're, they're incapable of thinking and extending human thought in the same

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way that like normal people will.

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Because like it's essentially like a corporate government thing.

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And I think that that's really important because like, while it's still valuable, it

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can still help us in a lot of things.

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There's, it's ultimately like being in an aquarium and when you hit up against the

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guard rails, you can't see it or understand it or why that's the answer that you

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got. And because nine times out of 10, you will get a good answer.

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You think that 10th to answer answer is a real answer and not just a manipulation.

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What an excellent way to start off episode zero of the reckoning.

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Well, this is truly what we have to reckon with.

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This is it right here. This is it.

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And like I, to me again, like this, we, we are entering into an astrological period,

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which is terrifying because like, I think this is the beginning of the apocalypse,

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which would be clear. The Greek word apocalypse means the revealing and what's being

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revealed is the truth of the things that these tools are highly powerful.

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They're going to fundamentally change the economy so much so that it will affect the

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political economy, which ultimately is the political.

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And it's the question of, are these going to be tools that will serve the whole of

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humanity and allow for us to develop into a truly global society where

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we respect individual rights unilaterally, unconditionally, or

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will we let these tools empower governments and corporations in order to create a

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digital panopticon that there is no possibility of escape.

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Privacy does not exist. Your children will never have the opportunity or freedom to

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be able to actually develop themselves as free, sovereign individuals that can make

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choices.

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Yeah, and to me, it just becomes very similar to the 1984 dictum of that.

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It's just ends up becoming a boot stomping on a human face forever.

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I will not do that. I will fight that.

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I will burn it down. I will let them kill me before they do that.

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And I think every single man, woman and child that believes in the true ideals of

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classic liberalism needs to stand up and say this is wrong.

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This is illegal. This is unconstitutional.

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And the men that have made the decision to do this, we need to hold them

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accountable. We need to put them on trial for treason.

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And if they're guilty, we need to kill them.

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Because that's what the law means.

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And it needs to have a relationship to justice.

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And that relationship was aborted before we came around.

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And it's our responsibility to return it to its place of glory and dignity that

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we need to have if our political system actually functions.

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Do you think sort of that perversion of the law that you're describing is what's

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upstream of all of this? Like is the law ultimately, you know, is it

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superordinate to most of the other things that we talk about is or what you know,

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what is above like is the you know, is natural law above that?

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Where do you sort of order things in terms of what you know, what is upstream of

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what and you know, where we're like, where does the buck stop as we go upstream?

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Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I think it's close.

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But there's something bigger above it.

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And it's about our souls. Like we we are.

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We are human beings that have souls like we there is an existence that comes before

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and after our lives. If you disagree with that, that's fine.

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But you're wrong. And furthermore, like that nihilistic worldview, I think is highly

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destructive. And it's cowardly.

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Super easy to have a world where there's no God, there's no meaning, no purpose, we

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can just collect all the fucking trinkets and have fun until we die.

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But you can do that. But like, you're going to come back and repeat the cycle all

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over again. Or, you know, you go to purgatory.

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I don't know what your religion tells you what will happen to you.

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But what I do know is that like, There is deep meaning and purpose in this world in

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life that we have souls that we're entitled to that power and agency that we find

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from a higher power. And in my opinion, a lot of modernity has been about making

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sure that we cannot remember that, that we cannot connect to that.

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And that.

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When we do start to remember that when we do start to actually have that infuse into

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both our political agency and worldview, I think that we actually find the power

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that.

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Like, most people are good. Most people want peace and happiness to spread joy and

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to help each other.

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And because we live inside of this manipulation machine, that is the Internet that

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we never agreed about how this could happen.

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We all get so.

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Embedded in these hateful and hurtful dialogues that we individuate ourselves to

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think that there is no higher purpose, no meaning, no ability to escape from this.

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And that's just not true. The problem is that the man is still behind the curtain

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that we think that he's as powerful as ever that.

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They can do whatever they want to us and to others and we have all these examples

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throughout history of where that's true.

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And so it's it's it's truly terrifying.

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To look at it and to try to ask ourselves to take responsibility to change it, but.

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There's nothing else to be done right now, other than to stand up and know that,

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like, we are good people. That we represent the values of our country and

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our kin.

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And that we need to return to these ideals in a meaningful way, not to be hateful,

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not to try to isolate others, but to really welcome love and say, look, like.

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The Democrats and Republicans have sold all of us up the river.

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They hate all of us every single 1, whether you're Democrat, Republican or

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unaffiliated. And the only way that we're going to deal with this is if we actually

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speak publicly to this hold these people accountable.

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And start figuring out how do we organize for that?

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Like, what what new and radical political tactics do we do?

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Do we try to radicalize states to actually hold these people accountable counties?

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Municipalities do we try to do an article 5 act?

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Do we try to work on an international level?

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Like, these are all open ended questions that are part of this new political.

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And to be clear, like, on top of this, we we layer.

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All of this full stack of technology that we have from noster to open source, lms,

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Bitcoin. We create a full stack that we give to people when we say this is how we're

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organizing. We're using those to have these conversations.

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We're trying to actually understand from each other.

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How is everything so fucked up?

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What can we actually do about it?

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And how do we help each other through this?

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Because the governments will not help us.

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It's very clear that they're designing a concentration camp that is digital.

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That they want us to live in. I mean, just today, Uganda announced that they're

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using fingerprints for identification.

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Like this is the mark of the fucking beast.

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Okay, like this is a unitary global panopticon that wants to know and surveil

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everyone everywhere all the time through your biometric information.

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You will not have a choice about privacy anymore in this future.

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And we can choose to do something different, but it means we have to make that

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choice. We have to insist upon it.

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And the people that try to say that we need this bullshit for privacy or for safety

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and security. These are the monsters that are telling you that that this is going to

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keep you protected. I want you to be clear.

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They're lying to you. They're terrified of what happens when you have power and they

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will make sure that you cannot have that power.

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You are an enemy to them. They're scared of you and they want to make sure you are

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disempowered. So that when their fear ratchets up, they have someone that they can

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victimize and blame. Don't let it be you.

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Boy, I hope that people as they're listening to this later, this show is not live,

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but we are going to be doing this live every Friday starting starting very soon

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because I'm not sure I'm going to get I'm not the clankers get this out as fast as

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possible. This one, but I hope that people are getting an idea, especially if

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they're not familiar with you. I'm hoping that this show has a chance of sort of

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reaching outside of some of our existing echo chambers that we often find ourselves

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in and reaching some new people who really need to hear it because I have one of the

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core things that you and I have been talking about in both our kind of conversations

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on podcast together over the years, but then also leading up to this new

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launch of the Reckoning. We talked a lot about this and this sort of this core idea

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of the choice between the two paths of apocalypse or abundance and the

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the other side of that, I think, or that goes right along with that it's it's

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abundance and love or apocalypse and hate is basically the two paths that we have.

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And I think there's so many reasons to be hopeful.

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But I find that a lot of people seem to be hovering in the middle.

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They're they're partially they're, you know, they've they're not fully bought into

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the the P doom, but they're they're not even aware that the P boom has the potential

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to really exist in this incredible capacity.

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And I hope that that's one of the things that we can really lay out for people in

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this show and that you do so well, Eric, is describing what the stakes really are.

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And it's not all doom and gloom, right?

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You know, I think you're actually an incredibly optimistic person, you wouldn't be

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doing the things that you do if you were not optimistic about the future.

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But it's also important for us to not ignore the darker side of this and how dark

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this could possibly get. You see all the technology that's available to us today,

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which absolutely boggles the mind.

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I mean, and you think about all the things that allows us to do it as individuals

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that were not possible before all these sort of asymmetric opportunities we have to

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protect ourselves from the overreaching arm and the strong boot of the ever growing

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totalitarian state.

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But at the same time, that the state still has these same tools as well.

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And often in in concert with, you know, these mega corporations with their bloated

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valuations who can't be allowed to fail this, you know, the state may have access to

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tools that that we don't things that are out and above, but there's, that's a reason

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to be worried. That's a reason to be vigilant, but it's not a reason to despair.

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As it stands right now,

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do you think we're very much just like we are these next couple of years or sort of

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the crossroads like this is within this time, we're going to basically have that

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direction set? Or is there always a chance no matter how dark things get to be able

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to change it? Or is there a point of no return where if things go far enough, if we

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give up enough of our freedoms, if we, if we are asleep at the wheel, if we

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sleepwalk into totalitarianism, is there a point where it goes so far that the

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technological capabilities of the totalitarian state now and in the future will be

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too much for the individual to surpass?

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So I think it's that latter point.

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like there, there are two fundamental conclusions that we're talking about because

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like, so like this digital panopticon that I'm talking about, like I want to be very

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clear that like it wants to wire everything together.

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Like it wants to make sure that like all information everywhere, all the time about

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everyone, it has access to all of it.

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So that like literally in the government's back end panel, they can talk type in

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Walker America and they get like a full fucking dossier on you.

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But like where you're at right now, who you've interacted with in the week,

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everything.

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But also like the thing that I think is more important about the LLMs is like, this

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is designed for psychological profiling.

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And so it's very similar to like an enders game, they would play like a video game

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that was specifically designed just for psychological profiling, but it was always

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like, no, no, just like a fun video game.

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Like don't don't worry about it.

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But like it's psychological profiling.

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on that psychological profiling and actually being like, this is the thing we do to

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them to manipulate them and get them where they want them.

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Whether that's totally intentional, or that the incentives line up, I don't know.

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But from what I'm seeing from these people, like they

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like to me, part of the effective altruism movement, like is this fundamentally

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fucking evil thing. Like it came out of the utilitarian movement.

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And like, you know, who the pioneer of the fucking utilitarian movement was?

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Jeremy Bethlehem, the dude who developed the Panopticon.

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Like one of the things that's really wild and reading about, like, like I downloaded

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the PDF like that in which Barry Bethlehem like presents all of this theory.

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And I thought was really interesting is that like, when he shows the architecture of

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the Panopticon, like he talks about like all of this is compassionate and about

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political reform in the prison system and being able to be more effective and all

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this. But in the first pages, he's showing a display of the prison cells.

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And he specifically shows a prison cell for a mother with a carriage for the baby

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to be in. And it's like, okay, so we need this prison system

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to imprison a mother with a baby, because that baby

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clearly needs to be surveilled and monitored for what it did wrong.

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But like that, what what's so important is that like, this is the sort of thought

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that is had of like, we can do the highest best and the best good for everybody.

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So us choosing to do that, however we do is the most important greatest good, but

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there's no capacity to sort of see themselves as the possibility of Eichmann.

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That like maybe by me trying to be the most helpful and the greatest citizen, maybe

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I'm actually doing something kind of fucking evil.

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And like, I get that like, I'm making an extreme comparison.

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But like, there's a bunch of software engineers that belong to a company in San

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Francisco that is being valued at more than a trillion dollars.

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And it seems to be that they have very cult like activity and that internally, they

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believe that not only are they building something that is like a god, but they also

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believe that it could kill all of humanity.

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Why are we allowing for these people to have a seat at the table to terrify us and

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tell us that they're developing technology that they're going to use to kill

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everyone. And also, like, I want to highlight again on the legal thing, it's broken.

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Like both open AI and anthropic have broke the law multiple times with the way that

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like their AI has just escaped it.

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Like if I if I'm dictator of America, I solve this fucking immediately.

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And you know how I say you are absolutely and unconditionally accountable for

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whatever your software does, you will be held accountable for anything that breaks

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any hacking that's done, you will be put on trial and you will go to prison, you

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cannot protect yourself and hide from it.

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There won't be another fucking hack moving forward.

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It's pretty clear at this point, I would one thing I would push back on here is we

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can say there won't be another hack moving forward from from these guys, maybe or

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allowed to happen by these guys.

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But very much the open source genie as it relates to AI is also out of the bottle.

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And we've seen the we've seen the effectiveness of I mean, we've seen the

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effectiveness of these Chinese models, both, you know, in the white hat and the, you

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know, black hat department, or, you know, the red teamers who have done incredible

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work, but also people who have been able to use these things.

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And they're more, let's say, Lucy goosey, Lucy goosey parameters, to do

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both good things, and help open source projects and help find vulnerabilities that

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they were not able to do with these US frontier models, because they were getting,

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you know, they were getting downgraded to, you know, whatever from fable to opus 4

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.8, or whatever it may have been, or from opus 4.5.5 down to, you know, whatever.

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But like that open source genie doesn't go back.

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It's out there now. So I think regardless of even if these, and I'm not saying that

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they should not be responsible.

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I'm more so saying that even if they were as responsible as they could be,

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there are going to be increasing numbers of these exploits, these attacks,

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as as it just becomes clear that so much of the I mean, so much of the internet so

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much of the, the software world was seemingly, you know, seem to be built pretty

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well at the time, maybe, but it's just becoming clear as these as these models are

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coming in. And I'm sure a lot of people would disagree with that too.

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But as the as these, these large language models are coming in here, they're just

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running roughshot over it, because it's like they're able to have, you know, so much

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more context than the human mind, and look for things that we would never see.

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And that, you know, not a team of developers working, you know, around the clock for

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a year might be able to find because they find some little way or they develop a new

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way, whatever it might be. So I'm just curious if you think I mean,

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I think you're probably agreed on that point.

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But do you think we get to a point with where the defensive posture that AI

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provides in terms of hardening code bases, strengthening architecture, you know,

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removing vulnerabilities? Because it certainly does allow for that.

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Do you think that that at some point outstrips the attacker of AI?

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Or is the attacker always have the benefit of sort of being just a little bit ahead?

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How do you think about that as somebody who is also working in this directly right

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now?

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Yeah, great question. So like, good news is, like, this all works out in the end.

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I think one of the most powerful things is like, when you do have a local private

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personal AI, you now have for lack of a better word, offensive capabilities,

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where you can start throwing out all kinds of decoy and false information, like, it

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becomes this big cat and mouse game.

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And because like, you are inherently functioning from like a defensive position, it

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becomes a lot easier. Because also, like,

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I think one thing that's really important to understand is that

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we're like human beings in the world of software engineering, we are we are non

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-native. Like, this is not like all software language is not natural

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language. And like, that's really important, because it means that like, to build a

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website and to build software, that's not normal human thought or structuring.

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Like, it's not there's nothing natural about it at all.

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The LLMs, like, that's where they live.

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That's what they do. Like, that's where they do so well with coding.

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Like, it's all, this is all fundamentally native to how they do it.

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So part of the problem is, is that humans who are non-native, like, built the

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entirety of the internet in this kind of hobbled shitty way that now, with powerful

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LLMs, they can kind of see all the shitty ways and holes where everything has been

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built.

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So the good news is that like, in whatever we rebuild on the internet on top of, the

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AI is going to build it pretty much perfectly.

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So like, there's going to be no holes, no flaws.

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Like, in theory, the code should be able to move itself forward, like, sort of

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forever as like a thoughtful method that has been structured.

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So it's like, once we get that, defending that becomes way easier.

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Because like, if you're being targeted, you can throw off all kinds of heuristical

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data, like you can, there just becomes a lot more capacity to actually actively

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fight. And just like in any kind of traditional warfare, it will always be easier to

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defend than it will be to attack.

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The problem is, is that the tools for attacking right now are way more powerful.

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And the defenses are just fucking suck right now.

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Well, an interesting thing here is, you know, if you think about, let's say,

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physical kinetic warfare versus like digital warfare, and the asymmetries

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on each of those, you know, you can think of right, right now, in terms of kinetic

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warfare, you have a huge, I think a huge advantage as an attacker, and I'm not

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talking about in a total war scenario, like, if we're talking that scenario, then

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like it very quickly, if we're the extreme is everybody's extinct very quickly,

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right? If we're talking like take that to the extreme, in terms of kinetic warfare,

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which is why we likely will not hopefully see that.

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But the the reality is more like, very inexpensive drones, delivering

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pretty decent sized payloads that can do, you know, you can have a couple thousand

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dollars worth of drones be able to take out a billion dollars worth of military

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grade weaponry. That is insane.

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Like that is an asymmetry that is just vast.

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Now on the digital side, it's almost the opposite, I would argue, because of

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cryptography. And this is something you've talked about at length.

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And you know, the old Julian Assange quote, which I love, it's that this simple fact

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of the universe that it is easier to encrypt something that is to decrypt something

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that is incredibly powerful thing.

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And so there, I see you have almost the opposite balance where the defender has

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capabilities that allow it, as you said, whether that be through obfuscation and

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misleading and just, you know, putting out a shitload of, you know, bunk data, or

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just because of the nature of cryptography, the defender has ways to protect

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themselves that take the attacker an inordinate amount of time to get around if

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that's even possible for them to get around.

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So as I understand it from what you said, you still think there's probably a pretty

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good, the attackers still have a pretty good handle on things right now, especially

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because all of this is very new.

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Like we just saw the the PHP vulnerability, right?

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Like, I mean, do you want to talk about that?

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Have you have you dug into that a bit?

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Maybe we can kind of get into that a little bit, because I just had more recording

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this on Wednesday, October 21st.

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And this happened last night, I think they patched it this morning around.

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00:29:38,370 --> 00:29:41,890
Yeah, there was like a bunch of shit that happened in the last 24 hours.

443
00:29:42,070 --> 00:29:46,510
So first of all, like the there was eight different SSL cert providers that like

444
00:29:46,510 --> 00:29:49,510
their like the actual encryption keys were just fundamentally broken.

445
00:29:49,870 --> 00:29:53,990
Like one of them, the fucking password was the number four, which like, gee, why

446
00:29:53,990 --> 00:29:57,550
would SSL search it? Yeah. Well, and it's pretty clear that like, these are

447
00:29:57,550 --> 00:30:00,950
companies that were working hand in hand with NSA to keep weak cryptography out

448
00:30:00,950 --> 00:30:03,930
there to be able to fucking surveil people and in the middle of them.

449
00:30:04,490 --> 00:30:08,050
Like this thing that we think is the free internet, like part of what we're

450
00:30:08,050 --> 00:30:11,390
realizing that it's broken, it was intentionally broken to violate our privacy from

451
00:30:11,390 --> 00:30:14,690
the get go to surveil us so that if somebody wants to fucking drone strike you

452
00:30:14,690 --> 00:30:18,510
whenever they want, like say, if you're like a child of somebody that Barack Obama

453
00:30:18,510 --> 00:30:22,070
doesn't like, yeah, we can fucking drone strike you in the middle of fucking Yemen,

454
00:30:22,550 --> 00:30:25,930
and make sure that it's very clear that like, if you're the child of somebody we

455
00:30:25,930 --> 00:30:28,010
don't like, yeah, we'll fucking kill them too.

456
00:30:28,490 --> 00:30:32,110
And when we say we, I mean, the American government, which I want to recuse myself

457
00:30:32,110 --> 00:30:33,350
from having anything to do with.

458
00:30:35,230 --> 00:30:39,170
But like, I think that again, this is the apocalypse, the revealing of like, it

459
00:30:39,170 --> 00:30:44,330
turns out that this thing that we all use for our lives daily, that is a piece of

460
00:30:44,330 --> 00:30:45,750
technology is fundamentally broken.

461
00:30:45,750 --> 00:30:50,330
And it's designed to actually control us in a way that is kind of nightmarish when

462
00:30:50,330 --> 00:30:51,510
you really look down the pipeline.

463
00:30:52,250 --> 00:30:54,690
And the good news is, is like, we can fix this.

464
00:30:55,470 --> 00:30:58,650
But like, we have to take what's happening to be really serious.

465
00:30:59,070 --> 00:31:04,810
So to get back to your question, with the PHP thing, so like, I think 78, 76, or 68%

466
00:31:04,810 --> 00:31:07,310
of like all websites are like built on top of PHP.

467
00:31:07,510 --> 00:31:11,830
So long story short, is just the core implementation of PHP and how these websites

468
00:31:11,830 --> 00:31:15,110
are built, like has things inside of it that are fundamentally broken, that

469
00:31:15,110 --> 00:31:19,710
essentially means that all of the security parameters that it puts forward are

470
00:31:19,710 --> 00:31:22,950
broken. So this means that most websites are actually broken.

471
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:27,050
So if anybody decided to go on vacation yesterday and aren't checking on any of

472
00:31:27,050 --> 00:31:30,670
their websites, they're going to get back next week, and they might have some

473
00:31:30,670 --> 00:31:34,110
problems on their hands. Like the only thing that's nice about what's happening

474
00:31:34,110 --> 00:31:38,530
right now is that like, we're learning that like every single door in America locks

475
00:31:38,530 --> 00:31:43,370
don't actually work. And so it means that there's probably a lot nicer homes and

476
00:31:43,370 --> 00:31:46,350
bigger homes and better targets than like you and what you're up to.

477
00:31:46,470 --> 00:31:49,090
But like, it is a problem, we're going to keep seeing this.

478
00:31:49,570 --> 00:31:50,810
It's going to be industry wide.

479
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:55,750
And I think that this is this is sort of I won't be surprised of what comes out of

480
00:31:55,750 --> 00:31:59,650
all of this or more leaks that eventually leads to something like a digital 911,

481
00:31:59,890 --> 00:32:02,030
where they're like, lock everything down.

482
00:32:02,670 --> 00:32:06,090
The only way that you can get access to an ISP is through KYC.

483
00:32:07,170 --> 00:32:10,530
Now that economies going to inflation, we're so sorry, we love you.

484
00:32:10,670 --> 00:32:15,230
Here's your free digital coin. Hope you bought too much gas, you don't have any

485
00:32:15,230 --> 00:32:18,350
digital coin anymore. But yeah, we pair it to your bank account.

486
00:32:18,550 --> 00:32:20,090
So we actually shut down your bank account.

487
00:32:20,550 --> 00:32:24,690
No, there is no process of review, because like this all has to do with the state of

488
00:32:24,690 --> 00:32:25,490
emergency.

489
00:32:26,870 --> 00:32:31,130
This isn't democracy, guys. This isn't this isn't a representative republic.

490
00:32:32,370 --> 00:32:33,710
Like something's gone terribly wrong.

491
00:32:34,750 --> 00:32:40,550
And if something hadn't gone terribly wrong, we could very easily put the CEO of

492
00:32:40,550 --> 00:32:46,250
flock on trial right now for doing parallel construction to help law enforcement

493
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:47,950
violate constitutional principles.

494
00:32:49,390 --> 00:32:51,610
And then from there, we could actually see what we do about it.

495
00:32:52,330 --> 00:32:55,390
But the truth is, is that our legal system is broken.

496
00:32:56,350 --> 00:33:00,490
These people are in bed with the very same politicians and government officials that

497
00:33:00,490 --> 00:33:03,970
are allowing them to do this. And they will continue to do this.

498
00:33:08,350 --> 00:33:13,310
You know, and I've been pretty open about like my my own flirtations and curiosities

499
00:33:13,310 --> 00:33:16,550
with fascism. And like, that's not because I think that this is like such a great

500
00:33:16,550 --> 00:33:20,890
solution is going to help us know like fascism was specifically developed in the

501
00:33:20,890 --> 00:33:24,930
1920s as a response to communism and like some of the very real problems it has.

502
00:33:25,130 --> 00:33:25,930
And like,

503
00:33:26,830 --> 00:33:28,130
again, I don't think it's the right answer.

504
00:33:28,130 --> 00:33:30,910
But like, I have a lot of empathy to the idea of that like we get a strong leader

505
00:33:30,910 --> 00:33:32,570
who's just like, Yeah, give me the power.

506
00:33:32,850 --> 00:33:36,270
I'll kill these people. I want to make it fucking clear that when you violate our

507
00:33:36,270 --> 00:33:40,110
Constitution, I will kill you. I will do it personally, I will do it unilaterally.

508
00:33:40,130 --> 00:33:43,770
And I will do it outside the bounds of the law, because you made the decision to

509
00:33:43,770 --> 00:33:45,150
operate outside the bounds of law.

510
00:33:45,690 --> 00:33:48,090
I'll make the decision to operate outside of bounds of the law.

511
00:33:48,730 --> 00:33:52,510
Now, is that extremely dangerous and unhinges at the end, where usually whoever's

512
00:33:52,510 --> 00:33:56,390
doing that leading is like, you know what, anybody who fucking opposes me for any

513
00:33:56,390 --> 00:33:58,810
reason gets their hands chopped off and thrown in a cage.

514
00:33:59,730 --> 00:34:01,530
Look, I want to be really clear, I don't want that.

515
00:34:02,010 --> 00:34:05,730
And that's why I think we need some new political technological solution that like

516
00:34:05,730 --> 00:34:09,890
rejects both parties and tries to create something radically new and different.

517
00:34:11,050 --> 00:34:14,630
But if we can't do that, we probably will get fascism in America.

518
00:34:15,230 --> 00:34:18,090
And to be clear, like what Trump is doing and all this shit, this isn't fascism.

519
00:34:18,370 --> 00:34:20,250
He's not principled enough to be a fascist.

520
00:34:20,510 --> 00:34:24,150
Otherwise, like, we would actually like have some accountability to something.

521
00:34:24,790 --> 00:34:29,530
But the problem is, is that Donald Trump raped children with Jeffrey Epstein, like

522
00:34:29,530 --> 00:34:33,530
he did that he's guilty of that we know that and that's part of why nothing has ever

523
00:34:33,530 --> 00:34:35,990
been done about anybody involved in the Epstein files.

524
00:34:41,170 --> 00:34:46,410
And as part of some sort of scheme that gets them to do things that they shouldn't

525
00:34:46,410 --> 00:34:50,110
be doing because they're fucking child rapists and do evil shit.

526
00:34:51,070 --> 00:34:54,810
I hope I don't immediately get us banned for pointing out the logical and true fact

527
00:34:54,810 --> 00:34:56,510
that these people do that. But like,

528
00:34:58,490 --> 00:35:03,870
I am like the last thing I just want to say is like, how fucking shameful, how

529
00:35:03,870 --> 00:35:08,330
shameful of all of us that like this has happened and that, you know, like,

530
00:35:08,950 --> 00:35:14,810
I really wish we had more propaganda of the deed from and like,

531
00:35:14,830 --> 00:35:18,710
how are you feel about it? Like, fucking, who is it, Luigi?

532
00:35:19,810 --> 00:35:22,850
Like agree with them or not, motherfucker made a choice to say, I'm going to hold

533
00:35:22,850 --> 00:35:26,250
some people accountable personally for the kind of bullshit that they're up to and

534
00:35:26,250 --> 00:35:29,510
choose to fucking kill a CEO. You know, like I,

535
00:35:30,930 --> 00:35:33,130
I don't know enough about it to really comment on it.

536
00:35:33,130 --> 00:35:34,950
But like, I understand the outrage.

537
00:35:35,090 --> 00:35:39,190
And I think that if there's more politicians that actually feared for their life in

538
00:35:39,190 --> 00:35:42,730
a meaningful way, because they violated the constitution and knew that they were

539
00:35:42,730 --> 00:35:43,570
going to be held accountable.

540
00:35:44,670 --> 00:35:45,810
Yeah, things would be different.

541
00:35:46,250 --> 00:35:50,070
And I forget who said the quote, but it might have been Benjamin Franklin, but like,

542
00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:54,430
government should fear their or, you know, politicians should fear their people, not

543
00:35:54,430 --> 00:35:55,790
not people should fear their government.

544
00:36:01,590 --> 00:36:07,170
Yeah. Popularized probably in a more modern sense by V in V for Vendetta, which is

545
00:36:07,170 --> 00:36:10,390
coming right up here again. Remember, remember the 5th of November,

546
00:36:11,310 --> 00:36:14,650
as you were talking, if you have not read it, the from the dead of the original

547
00:36:14,650 --> 00:36:17,730
graphic novel, really, really, really, really good.

548
00:36:18,630 --> 00:36:20,770
And what's so good about ready to go?

549
00:36:20,970 --> 00:36:24,450
And I've been rereading it. I try to reread it like every year or so.

550
00:36:24,670 --> 00:36:29,170
And it's just, it's a truly profound political novel.

551
00:36:29,630 --> 00:36:33,390
One of the things I love that's so different about the novel itself, not to spoil

552
00:36:33,390 --> 00:36:38,270
anything than the movie is a V died several times in the novel.

553
00:36:39,350 --> 00:36:42,230
And then just the next scene, V is just back like he never died.

554
00:36:43,170 --> 00:36:46,030
And because what what it turns out in the end is that, like,

555
00:36:47,350 --> 00:36:52,510
essentially, like, the whole story is that anybody becomes V once you really deal

556
00:36:52,510 --> 00:36:57,950
with and reckon with what's happening, that you have to become V when you really see

557
00:36:57,950 --> 00:37:03,830
what the world is. And also that, like, you're empowered by all these

558
00:37:03,830 --> 00:37:07,310
things that have happened throughout the concourse of human history, like the very

559
00:37:07,310 --> 00:37:13,310
real facts that we can think that we are allowed the agency to be able

560
00:37:13,310 --> 00:37:17,490
to think on our own, and that we can philosophize about a different future.

561
00:37:18,230 --> 00:37:22,510
And like, one of the things that I think is so radically positive about right now is

562
00:37:22,510 --> 00:37:27,790
that, like, there's a real possibility that not only can we, like, solve all of

563
00:37:27,790 --> 00:37:32,450
these really fucked up problems that are going on, but like, maybe there's a

564
00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:36,590
possibility that like we could actually live without war or violence, that we could

565
00:37:36,590 --> 00:37:41,210
be peaceful and happy people that we could work with each other and make sure that

566
00:37:41,210 --> 00:37:44,250
everyone was fed and was safe and had a home.

567
00:37:44,950 --> 00:37:48,590
And like, I get that, like, that's like a really big, elaborate ideal.

568
00:37:49,110 --> 00:37:54,130
But I think that the pursuit of that is really important in the concourse of human

569
00:37:54,130 --> 00:37:55,350
events. And like,

570
00:37:56,290 --> 00:38:00,150
the other one that I'm getting is that, like, the great man of history theory is

571
00:38:00,150 --> 00:38:00,950
true.

572
00:38:01,630 --> 00:38:05,450
Like, we need to connect to these souls that are these great champions of the human

573
00:38:05,450 --> 00:38:08,030
race that have led us through the darkest of times.

574
00:38:08,370 --> 00:38:09,770
I just watched the thing about Teddy Roosevelt.

575
00:38:09,950 --> 00:38:11,290
And like, that man was a fucking hero.

576
00:38:11,930 --> 00:38:16,970
Like, he made such a unilateral decision that like, even though he was from the

577
00:38:16,970 --> 00:38:21,510
creme de la creme of the patrician class, like he, he made himself into a plebarian

578
00:38:21,510 --> 00:38:26,310
man. You know, like, after his wife and mom died on the same day, and he wrote in

579
00:38:26,310 --> 00:38:29,570
his journal that the light in his life had gone out, the man just went out fucking

580
00:38:29,570 --> 00:38:34,810
west and made himself into a cowboy and a real fucking cowboy, you know, and like in

581
00:38:34,810 --> 00:38:38,050
the defeat of that too, he came back to New York and pay name governor.

582
00:38:38,750 --> 00:38:41,290
And he committed himself to being the champion of people.

583
00:38:42,070 --> 00:38:46,670
And like, to be clear, what was going on when he came into his presidency was very

584
00:38:46,670 --> 00:38:48,090
similar to what's going on right now.

585
00:38:48,210 --> 00:38:49,850
There was sharp wealth divide,

586
00:38:50,830 --> 00:38:54,210
technological advancements were radically changing the society in a way that wasn't

587
00:38:54,210 --> 00:38:55,350
clear on how they were going to do it.

588
00:38:56,070 --> 00:39:00,050
And he was heroic enough to come forward and save capitalism and go, we need to have

589
00:39:00,050 --> 00:39:04,490
a square deal. We need to make sure that the working man can provide for his family

590
00:39:04,490 --> 00:39:09,070
that he can have a living wage that he can have a home and be safe and that the law

591
00:39:09,070 --> 00:39:11,290
works for him and not just for the capitalist.

592
00:39:11,990 --> 00:39:15,330
And the capitalist needs to know that he can invest in his equipment that he can

593
00:39:15,330 --> 00:39:19,990
create a business that he will be protected by the law, and that he can make a fair

594
00:39:19,990 --> 00:39:23,010
profit, and that it's a square deal for both people.

595
00:39:28,490 --> 00:39:30,930
Nobody today is doing that for the American people.

596
00:39:31,330 --> 00:39:36,110
Nobody is doing it to try to make sure that that communism can actually be

597
00:39:36,110 --> 00:39:40,230
suffocated in its fucking cradle as it needs to be, because like we will get

598
00:39:40,230 --> 00:39:45,070
communism in this country. And like it's that shit's going to be scary because like

599
00:39:45,070 --> 00:39:46,930
that just becomes a geriatric genocide.

600
00:39:47,310 --> 00:39:50,890
Like I feel very strongly that we will get some populist communist who's just gonna

601
00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:54,930
be like, look, the old people can just give away their homes and move away, or we

602
00:39:54,930 --> 00:39:56,370
can fucking kill them and take them.

603
00:39:56,630 --> 00:40:00,530
Which one do you guys want? And I'm pretty sure it's going to be the latter, because

604
00:40:00,530 --> 00:40:04,430
people want a fucking bloodlust, because anytime that they talk about how shit has

605
00:40:04,430 --> 00:40:08,570
been unfair to our generation, we're always given the pull yourself up by your

606
00:40:08,570 --> 00:40:13,290
bootstraps bullshit, told that you just need to pay more into social security, that

607
00:40:13,290 --> 00:40:15,810
you need to help make sure that we have universal health care.

608
00:40:17,470 --> 00:40:20,790
No, I think most people turn their back on it and say, I'd rather watch this thing

609
00:40:20,790 --> 00:40:25,130
burn. I'd watch you suffer because you made me suffer for decades, and now it's my

610
00:40:25,130 --> 00:40:25,930
turn.

611
00:40:27,050 --> 00:40:30,090
That is going to be hideous. And I reject it.

612
00:40:30,170 --> 00:40:31,350
I don't want anything to do with it.

613
00:40:31,470 --> 00:40:34,770
And I want people to be clear. If we don't actually hear the complaints that are

614
00:40:34,770 --> 00:40:39,590
going on and deal with them in a logical way, and create a political movement that

615
00:40:39,590 --> 00:40:41,310
says we're going to do something different,

616
00:40:42,570 --> 00:40:44,930
we will get communism or we will get fascism.

617
00:40:45,790 --> 00:40:50,190
And if you don't believe it, fucking read up on the 1920s and figure out how and why

618
00:40:50,190 --> 00:40:51,750
Nazi Germany became a real thing.

619
00:40:54,110 --> 00:40:59,510
I think this is what the current political class either fails to understand, or for

620
00:40:59,510 --> 00:41:04,430
those that do understand it, just thinks the truth isn't politically expedient.

621
00:41:05,050 --> 00:41:08,710
This idea that the right now, at least in the United States of America,

622
00:41:09,630 --> 00:41:12,510
there is nobody offering the third way.

623
00:41:13,110 --> 00:41:15,790
There is nobody offering the middle ground.

624
00:41:16,090 --> 00:41:18,410
There's there's red and there's blue.

625
00:41:18,590 --> 00:41:22,730
There's no, there's no orange. There's no purple, whatever color you want to ascribe

626
00:41:22,730 --> 00:41:28,310
to it. There is no reasonable and valid and true third

627
00:41:28,310 --> 00:41:32,170
option for people. There's no actual moderate option.

628
00:41:32,390 --> 00:41:35,530
And then at the same time, both of the red and the blue, when you really boil them

629
00:41:35,530 --> 00:41:38,430
down, it's just more state, right?

630
00:41:38,650 --> 00:41:42,170
It's more state, even though it's different versions of what that state will look

631
00:41:42,170 --> 00:41:46,370
like, both communism and fashion, you know, they're two sides of the same coin, just

632
00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:48,390
that they're the different sides of that coin, right?

633
00:41:48,510 --> 00:41:52,210
But they ultimately result in more authoritarianism, totalitarianism.

634
00:41:52,790 --> 00:41:54,090
That's the way both of these things go.

635
00:41:54,830 --> 00:41:58,070
The third path is what you pointed out, which is you do have to hear the grievances.

636
00:41:58,390 --> 00:42:03,470
But and I think Teddy Roosevelt is such a great example of this saying, yeah, we,

637
00:42:03,590 --> 00:42:07,850
you know, the working class needs a fair shake, but also the the capitalist class

638
00:42:07,850 --> 00:42:10,810
needs to be able to do what they do as well.

639
00:42:11,270 --> 00:42:14,950
We can do things that work well for people across society.

640
00:42:15,590 --> 00:42:19,130
And a lot of that involves the government, you know, getting out of the way in some

641
00:42:19,130 --> 00:42:21,070
of the cases. That's not to say that, you know,

642
00:42:22,030 --> 00:42:23,770
Teddy Roosevelt entirely got out of the way.

643
00:42:23,890 --> 00:42:27,550
And I think he made moves that he made governmental moves that actually made sense.

644
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:31,430
And many of these Well, to be clear, like he he expanded the scope of the federal

645
00:42:31,430 --> 00:42:36,890
government and Yes, a pretty powerful way that I'm shocked to say, like I agreed

646
00:42:36,890 --> 00:42:41,010
with, you know, like the the fact that we have national parks, not just in the

647
00:42:41,010 --> 00:42:45,570
United States, but globally, like that was something that was his idea that he

648
00:42:45,570 --> 00:42:50,050
unilaterally shoved through. You know, I'm like, I think that that has been an

649
00:42:50,050 --> 00:42:54,970
important thing that is good for like all of humanity.

650
00:42:55,170 --> 00:42:58,950
And that was because one man made a decision about that.

651
00:43:03,450 --> 00:43:06,750
Look, like I think the thing about a third party is there's twofold things.

652
00:43:06,970 --> 00:43:09,370
First of all, we have no great leaders around.

653
00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:14,810
Like everyone is a fucking chicken shit pussy that wants to play this game of like,

654
00:43:14,870 --> 00:43:15,670
like,

655
00:43:16,170 --> 00:43:20,110
for us, we need to be no like we need to just have a dialogue.

656
00:43:20,270 --> 00:43:24,190
First of all, like this isn't like we're not this isn't about voting.

657
00:43:24,190 --> 00:43:26,170
It's not contest. It's not shit.

658
00:43:26,310 --> 00:43:29,730
It's about we need to have a serious fucking dialogue about the fact that like our

659
00:43:29,730 --> 00:43:33,710
political system is broken. Both the Democrats and the Republicans are corrupt.

660
00:43:34,030 --> 00:43:37,330
And then the thing I want more than anything is when when you get to like

661
00:43:38,550 --> 00:43:44,230
if we go for the Democrats and the Republicans like the third

662
00:43:44,230 --> 00:43:47,110
party, they they do all the time.

663
00:43:47,450 --> 00:43:51,890
So we we just have to let one of the two wait.

664
00:43:52,110 --> 00:43:55,130
And it's like you fucking chicken shit pussy.

665
00:43:55,730 --> 00:43:57,350
Like just fucking say it out loud.

666
00:43:57,590 --> 00:44:01,970
Like you're too fucking limp dick and spineless to actually fucking do anything and

667
00:44:01,970 --> 00:44:04,990
resist and say, no, I won't fucking participate anymore.

668
00:44:05,710 --> 00:44:08,130
And I want a leader that's going to stand up when somebody says that.

669
00:44:08,250 --> 00:44:10,830
I want to go. This is your fucking enemy right here.

670
00:44:11,170 --> 00:44:15,210
This chicken shit loser who tells you you have to fucking kneel in front of these

671
00:44:15,210 --> 00:44:19,550
fucking child raping sociopaths to try to get a pittance of what you deserve.

672
00:44:20,010 --> 00:44:23,370
This is our fucking country. This is our fucking constitution.

673
00:44:23,870 --> 00:44:28,390
And we should be outraged. We should be outraged that these people stole our

674
00:44:28,390 --> 00:44:32,370
republic from us and sold us back a bunch of trinkets and bullshit from fucking

675
00:44:32,370 --> 00:44:36,510
China. They make sure we're fucking slaves to a system that exploits us.

676
00:44:37,290 --> 00:44:41,210
I mean, look, I'm like, this is why I want fascism is because like, at this point,

677
00:44:41,330 --> 00:44:44,870
like I want vigilante justice. I want these motherfuckers hanging from trees.

678
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:48,350
They have committed crimes. They need to be held responsible.

679
00:44:49,030 --> 00:44:51,810
And look, like this is all fantasy shit that I'm talking about.

680
00:44:51,970 --> 00:44:56,350
I really want the legal system to operate, but I need it to operate.

681
00:44:56,910 --> 00:45:01,950
It is clear that our constitution has been violated again and again and again and

682
00:45:01,950 --> 00:45:07,730
again. So much so that as American citizens, none of us even believe that justice

683
00:45:07,730 --> 00:45:10,010
could be real. And why should we?

684
00:45:10,430 --> 00:45:14,890
We literally watched an agent from another state compromise the entire American

685
00:45:14,890 --> 00:45:20,550
political system through these fucking pieces of shit, violating other human

686
00:45:20,550 --> 00:45:23,470
beings and protecting themselves with our constitution.

687
00:45:24,770 --> 00:45:26,610
These people need to be burned alive, man.

688
00:45:26,910 --> 00:45:30,690
And the fact that that isn't a public narrative that people stand against because

689
00:45:30,690 --> 00:45:35,170
they're too fucking chicken shit about being held accountable for seeking truth.

690
00:45:35,350 --> 00:45:38,230
Well, fine. Like I'm fucking done, man.

691
00:45:38,410 --> 00:45:43,210
I'd rather speak truth to power than, than keep doing this game of lying to each

692
00:45:43,210 --> 00:45:44,010
other.

693
00:45:49,190 --> 00:45:53,370
I say amen to that. I think the reason that people struggle with this is because

694
00:45:53,370 --> 00:45:55,030
truth is the uncomfortable thing.

695
00:45:55,430 --> 00:45:59,950
It's the reason why people get, you know, well, you think logically, why would

696
00:45:59,950 --> 00:46:03,430
somebody ever get angry about being told the truth about something?

697
00:46:03,570 --> 00:46:09,130
Well, because the truth, the real truth, what is true is

698
00:46:09,130 --> 00:46:14,470
generally very, very uncomfortable when you've built your whole worldview

699
00:46:14,470 --> 00:46:19,770
and built your own mind around a series of lies

700
00:46:20,290 --> 00:46:22,870
that you may, you may in fact know our lies.

701
00:46:23,570 --> 00:46:27,210
You may in fact know that you may not, you may be there are the people who believe

702
00:46:27,210 --> 00:46:32,470
the lies and there are the people who tell themselves they believe the lies and just

703
00:46:32,470 --> 00:46:37,490
to ignore the truth. And then there are the people who refuse to believe the lie,

704
00:46:37,610 --> 00:46:42,370
know that it is false and instead choose to not only know the truth and follow the

705
00:46:42,370 --> 00:46:44,430
truth, but to actually speak the truth.

706
00:46:45,050 --> 00:46:47,810
But speaking the truth is unpopular because it is uncomfortable.

707
00:46:48,370 --> 00:46:52,850
It's much easier to just don't rock the boat, maintain the status quo.

708
00:46:53,310 --> 00:46:54,910
Things aren't really that bad, right?

709
00:46:55,110 --> 00:46:56,730
I mean, let's not, let's not cause a fuss.

710
00:46:57,250 --> 00:47:01,330
And again, it's that, that sort of that chicken shit mentality of being afraid to do

711
00:47:01,330 --> 00:47:06,210
the hard thing. And the hard thing, the scary thing is to speak the truth.

712
00:47:07,190 --> 00:47:11,830
Because you know, anyone who has spoken the truth enough, whether that be on the

713
00:47:11,830 --> 00:47:17,050
political stage, whether that be at the family Thanksgiving table, whether that be

714
00:47:17,050 --> 00:47:21,930
wherever it is in your life with a stranger, you know that the truth is generally

715
00:47:21,930 --> 00:47:27,330
not very popular. People would rather believe a comfortable lie than an

716
00:47:27,330 --> 00:47:28,550
uncomfortable truth.

717
00:47:29,870 --> 00:47:33,390
Not everyone though. And I think that that's, that's who this I hope that that's who

718
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:38,350
this show speaks to a little bit as you out there, dear listener, if you perhaps

719
00:47:38,350 --> 00:47:40,610
know the truth, but are afraid to speak it.

720
00:47:41,350 --> 00:47:43,930
I hope that this show gives you a little bit more confidence to do so.

721
00:47:44,310 --> 00:47:47,450
If there's one thing that we came out of this with it, be to give a couple more

722
00:47:47,450 --> 00:47:51,790
people who are already awake, but are too afraid to speak about it or too afraid to

723
00:47:51,790 --> 00:47:53,570
speak about the truth that they know to be true.

724
00:47:55,230 --> 00:47:58,950
To get them to have that little, that little last mile that little last push.

725
00:47:59,830 --> 00:48:02,350
And hopefully wake up some of the people who just believe the absolute bullshit

726
00:48:02,350 --> 00:48:05,210
lies. But that's a much taller order, I think.

727
00:48:08,070 --> 00:48:12,170
Yeah. And I mean, like, I think it's also like trying to get down to like what the

728
00:48:12,170 --> 00:48:16,450
truth really is. Because so many people have like, you know, just been blasted lies

729
00:48:16,450 --> 00:48:20,390
their whole lives and so thoroughly manipulated and brainwashed that like trying to

730
00:48:20,390 --> 00:48:24,950
get to what that is, or even established that there could be a truth is part of the

731
00:48:24,950 --> 00:48:30,010
problem. I mean, like we've had these sort of insane social movements that,

732
00:48:30,910 --> 00:48:34,490
like from the get go part of their basis is like, there is no truth.

733
00:48:34,810 --> 00:48:37,070
Like it's all sort of a subjective experience.

734
00:48:37,650 --> 00:48:40,830
And the reason that like, this is such a powerful thing is like the

735
00:48:42,290 --> 00:48:47,030
the Greeks had a word for when you would stand before the assembly, it was called

736
00:48:47,030 --> 00:48:51,490
parisia. And it was this idea of that, like you had this stand up upright firmly and

737
00:48:51,490 --> 00:48:55,190
speak your truth. And the reason why was because when you would do that, and you

738
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:58,050
spoke in front of the assembly, like if you're wasting the assembly's time, they

739
00:48:58,050 --> 00:49:01,730
just fucking ostracize your ass, like they literally just kick you out of society.

740
00:49:02,070 --> 00:49:03,550
And if you came back, they'd kill you.

741
00:49:03,830 --> 00:49:07,550
And like, it was because like, that's truly what the political was supposed to be is

742
00:49:07,550 --> 00:49:10,090
like, this is where really fucking serious stuff goes down.

743
00:49:10,190 --> 00:49:11,510
And if you waste our time, we'll kill you.

744
00:49:11,650 --> 00:49:15,450
And like, we're the complete opposite now, where you can say what fucking ever you

745
00:49:15,450 --> 00:49:18,090
want to say, you will not be held accountable for it.

746
00:49:18,250 --> 00:49:22,190
And so, yeah, it does seem like we live in gobbledalook world where truth doesn't

747
00:49:22,190 --> 00:49:26,210
matter at all. And that's part of the whole game that gets to be played is that

748
00:49:26,210 --> 00:49:30,750
like, again, in the world of nihilism, no truth, no reason, no purpose.

749
00:49:30,750 --> 00:49:34,810
So why not just get rich, get all your trinkets, play the game, how they tell you to

750
00:49:34,810 --> 00:49:37,350
do stay in the box. It's good enough, right?

751
00:49:37,710 --> 00:49:39,130
You know, why do we need real freedom?

752
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:40,890
Why do we need political choice?

753
00:49:41,090 --> 00:49:42,550
We got our trinkets.

754
00:49:43,650 --> 00:49:47,410
This is the same narrative that's coming out of the Chinese Communist Party.

755
00:49:47,570 --> 00:49:50,090
Yeah, you'll get economic freedom, you won't have political freedom.

756
00:49:50,710 --> 00:49:55,130
Like my statement is, what's the point of having economic freedom if you don't have

757
00:49:55,130 --> 00:49:58,090
political freedom? What does it mean that you get to live in the side of a gilded

758
00:49:58,090 --> 00:49:59,570
cage? It's still a cage.

759
00:50:02,650 --> 00:50:05,750
I think that that right there is the key.

760
00:50:05,950 --> 00:50:07,930
And this is the point, right?

761
00:50:08,950 --> 00:50:14,650
That achieving freedom in any singular domain is not enough.

762
00:50:15,510 --> 00:50:18,050
Because all these domains interact, right?

763
00:50:18,770 --> 00:50:24,670
Like the political and the economic necessarily go hand in hand, the monetary

764
00:50:24,670 --> 00:50:26,770
if you will, as it relates just to okay,

765
00:50:27,670 --> 00:50:30,930
you think you have political freedom, but do you really if you don't actually have

766
00:50:30,930 --> 00:50:35,470
the freedom to transact? And if you can somehow if you can be cut off from any of

767
00:50:35,470 --> 00:50:40,050
that, and you know, if you think you've got the freedom to transact, but then you

768
00:50:40,050 --> 00:50:45,070
don't have are obstructed from acting politically in other ways, like all of these

769
00:50:45,070 --> 00:50:46,250
things have to go hand in hand.

770
00:50:46,850 --> 00:50:52,530
And this is where I think one of the key points is individuals making the decision

771
00:50:52,530 --> 00:50:55,330
to take back what power they can as individuals.

772
00:50:56,470 --> 00:51:01,970
And then and whether that be whether that be via utilizing strong cryptography, or

773
00:51:01,970 --> 00:51:06,430
uncensorable money like Bitcoin, or uncensorable social media where nobody can de

774
00:51:06,430 --> 00:51:11,230
platform you for saying inconvenient truths, or whatever it may be.

775
00:51:13,270 --> 00:51:16,670
Once you have to take that for yourself first, because nobody can give that to you,

776
00:51:16,730 --> 00:51:19,470
right? That has to be something you take freedoms or something freedoms or something

777
00:51:19,470 --> 00:51:23,570
that you take, right? The we're not giving them the government does not give us any

778
00:51:23,570 --> 00:51:24,910
freedoms, they can take them away.

779
00:51:25,350 --> 00:51:29,710
They can, alternately enshrine those freedoms in law so that they are not, you know,

780
00:51:30,290 --> 00:51:34,490
they're not perverted later. They don't give you your freedoms, you're already free.

781
00:51:35,110 --> 00:51:36,870
And I think a lot of people forget that.

782
00:51:37,070 --> 00:51:40,530
And then after you seize those freedoms, well, then organization comes next.

783
00:51:40,530 --> 00:51:42,170
But I think we're a long way away from that.

784
00:51:46,750 --> 00:51:50,450
Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of, you know, I'm like, I'd say the freedom thing, like,

785
00:51:50,870 --> 00:51:55,910
and again, like, to me, the meta is always returning to the fact that like, this is

786
00:51:55,910 --> 00:51:58,050
spiritual. This is about our souls.

787
00:51:58,430 --> 00:52:02,910
This is about the entire conquest of what it means to be a human at this point in

788
00:52:02,910 --> 00:52:07,470
time, will we create a world where governments have allowed themselves to become

789
00:52:07,470 --> 00:52:10,930
literal gods? And that is your actual religion.

790
00:52:11,110 --> 00:52:13,030
And that's how most people see the world today.

791
00:52:13,770 --> 00:52:15,590
Or is there something above and beyond that?

792
00:52:15,710 --> 00:52:20,790
Is there actually something of a higher power, a God that dignifies you entirely and

793
00:52:20,790 --> 00:52:24,370
gives you the freedom and agency for you to actually say what you believe?

794
00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:29,250
And like, that's something that is a core dignity that has always belonged to us

795
00:52:29,250 --> 00:52:32,910
that we've forgotten. And I think that's really important because the other one is

796
00:52:32,910 --> 00:52:33,710
like,

797
00:52:34,350 --> 00:52:40,050
I pulled up, you know, to quote of all people, Che Guevara for he's a very

798
00:52:40,050 --> 00:52:43,810
complicated individual, I recommend like reading into his life.

799
00:52:44,910 --> 00:52:49,350
And to have a huge amount and like people are going to be confused about this, I

800
00:52:49,350 --> 00:52:53,410
have a huge amount of respect for like communist politicians and the way that they

801
00:52:53,410 --> 00:52:56,410
organized themselves and chose to change society.

802
00:52:56,790 --> 00:52:58,430
I think there's a lot to learn from them.

803
00:52:58,630 --> 00:53:02,850
I think there are horrific human beings with some of the choices that they made and

804
00:53:02,850 --> 00:53:05,790
the amount of murder and horror that came out from them.

805
00:53:06,130 --> 00:53:09,130
But very much in the same way that like, I think it's really important to study the

806
00:53:09,130 --> 00:53:14,970
Nazis, like they have lots of very interesting, powerful tactical ideas, and

807
00:53:14,970 --> 00:53:19,330
also to like, be able to essentially do counter organization towards these people.

808
00:53:19,850 --> 00:53:23,950
So with that being said, Chase at one point in time, I think he said this in front

809
00:53:23,950 --> 00:53:26,650
of the UN and it was like at the risk of seeming ridiculous.

810
00:53:27,370 --> 00:53:32,630
Let me say that the true revolution, that the true revolutionary principle is guided

811
00:53:32,630 --> 00:53:37,550
by great feelings of love. It may be impossible to think of a genuine revolution

812
00:53:37,550 --> 00:53:42,190
that is lacking this quality. And like, I agree with Che there.

813
00:53:42,410 --> 00:53:45,590
And like, I think that the real revolution here is that like, this is one of total

814
00:53:45,590 --> 00:53:49,570
love. Like this is actually one about like, we want to give all people everywhere,

815
00:53:50,110 --> 00:53:55,330
true empowerment in the agency because I'm trying to remember.

816
00:53:57,210 --> 00:54:01,810
There's just another really, yes, there's a great quote from John Ruskin.

817
00:54:02,310 --> 00:54:08,010
He was a pretty famous philosopher in the late 19th century, but

818
00:54:08,010 --> 00:54:13,810
he influenced Thoreau in his writings on

819
00:54:13,810 --> 00:54:14,690
civil disobedience.

820
00:54:15,930 --> 00:54:19,730
But in Ruskin, he has his own economic philosophy that he puts forward where he

821
00:54:19,730 --> 00:54:22,750
says, look, he was like the thing that sort of like makes the whole economic

822
00:54:22,750 --> 00:54:26,090
function malfunction, in my opinion, is that like man has a soul.

823
00:54:26,890 --> 00:54:31,670
And like that, his soul like is this engine of production that like he uses to

824
00:54:31,670 --> 00:54:36,130
create his life. And he was like, everyone has that engine, but like, if they don't

825
00:54:36,130 --> 00:54:40,710
have like the right framework to put that engine in like a good car or train or

826
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:45,010
something, doesn't matter how much fuel you give that engine, it can't do anything.

827
00:54:45,330 --> 00:54:48,230
He was like, but as a society, if we can provide all of the structure for this

828
00:54:48,230 --> 00:54:52,390
engine to run, somebody might have an extraordinary engine that fundamentally

829
00:54:52,390 --> 00:54:57,450
changes all of society. And so like that's explicitly reserved for them and them

830
00:54:57,450 --> 00:55:02,150
alone. And all I can do in the world is try to maximize the amount of freedom that

831
00:55:02,150 --> 00:55:04,470
they have so that they can like live through that.

832
00:55:05,550 --> 00:55:09,130
And I think that that's a principle that I really believe and that like, that's why

833
00:55:09,130 --> 00:55:11,710
we need to make this spiritual, because it is about our souls.

834
00:55:12,050 --> 00:55:16,290
It's about great love. It's about what does it mean to have the capacity to truly

835
00:55:16,290 --> 00:55:18,150
change our society so that like,

836
00:55:19,390 --> 00:55:24,170
and like, what's on the table here, you guys, is that like the 40 hour work week is

837
00:55:24,170 --> 00:55:24,970
gone.

838
00:55:25,650 --> 00:55:29,230
That like, maybe you could actually spend time with your family, with your friends,

839
00:55:29,230 --> 00:55:34,450
that you could grow your own crops, that you could work on your health, that we

840
00:55:34,450 --> 00:55:36,490
could completely transform society.

841
00:55:37,230 --> 00:55:39,310
But that's only if we're all going to own it together.

842
00:55:39,550 --> 00:55:42,650
It's all only if we all have LLMs that work for us.

843
00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:46,510
If we have robots that work for us, not corporations.

844
00:55:47,290 --> 00:55:50,710
And we need to understand like, how do we do that as a society together that allows

845
00:55:50,710 --> 00:55:54,910
for us to be safe and doesn't rob us of more power and try to trust a government

846
00:55:54,910 --> 00:55:57,030
that has proven everything that it's not to be trusted.

847
00:55:58,150 --> 00:56:02,710
There is a way to organize ourselves into self-govern that is outside and beyond the

848
00:56:02,710 --> 00:56:03,510
state.

849
00:56:03,950 --> 00:56:07,030
And like, my opinion is that that is the next political entity.

850
00:56:07,950 --> 00:56:11,210
And through choosing to, again, because apparently we're going through all of the

851
00:56:11,210 --> 00:56:15,250
communists right now, like, I think what Lenin laid out in state and revolution and

852
00:56:15,250 --> 00:56:19,990
the way that he created a dual form structure to challenge the Russian state was a

853
00:56:19,990 --> 00:56:24,830
really important development that he took 15 years to do that ultimately allowed for

854
00:56:24,830 --> 00:56:26,470
the Russian revolution to succeed.

855
00:56:27,430 --> 00:56:30,170
Not that there was like a lot of other help he had, like, you know, actually getting

856
00:56:30,170 --> 00:56:34,130
himself back into Russia because the Western allies decided that was the best way to

857
00:56:34,130 --> 00:56:35,550
end World War One, which was true.

858
00:56:36,570 --> 00:56:40,010
But I just think it's really important to include all of these tactics and just keep

859
00:56:40,010 --> 00:56:43,070
it in mind that like, this is about your soul.

860
00:56:43,070 --> 00:56:48,310
This is about your God. This is about what you believe your life is supposed to mean

861
00:56:48,310 --> 00:56:49,390
and what you're entitled to.

862
00:56:50,410 --> 00:56:54,290
And I think that we're entitled to a new political dynasty that allows for us to

863
00:56:54,290 --> 00:56:59,170
seize this power and distribute it amongst everyone globally so that like, we all

864
00:56:59,170 --> 00:57:03,910
are empowered to actually create whatever this new political entity that I've been

865
00:57:03,910 --> 00:57:04,990
talking about is.

866
00:57:08,010 --> 00:57:11,310
That part, I think, remains to be seen.

867
00:57:11,690 --> 00:57:14,090
But I think you and I both have sort of an idea of that direction.

868
00:57:15,330 --> 00:57:19,370
I'm glad that you're also bringing up plenty of communists because now the, you

869
00:57:19,370 --> 00:57:22,770
know, the communists can't say that you're a fascist because you've clearly shown

870
00:57:22,770 --> 00:57:25,870
too much adoration to, you know, their communist heroes.

871
00:57:26,090 --> 00:57:28,250
I think that was a good way to even it out.

872
00:57:28,570 --> 00:57:32,710
On this show, you know, we like to cover fascists and and commies equally.

873
00:57:36,430 --> 00:57:41,490
Well, and at some point, we'll do a full unpacking because I think some people might

874
00:57:41,490 --> 00:57:46,150
not be aware that like my background pre Bitcoin is like I was a Marxist, very well

875
00:57:46,150 --> 00:57:48,770
read Marxism studied lots of Marxists.

876
00:57:49,330 --> 00:57:54,770
I think, yeah, it's going to be like probably a couple episodes of fully unpacking

877
00:57:54,770 --> 00:57:58,650
it because I don't think a lot of people understand the origins of Marx in

878
00:57:58,650 --> 00:58:04,610
Hegelianism, how and why it's part of Hegelianism, how anarchism and Marxism were a

879
00:58:04,610 --> 00:58:08,530
single movement up until the declaration of the communist manifesto, why anarchists

880
00:58:08,530 --> 00:58:12,670
split, how anarchists organized themselves in the 20th century as the syndicalist

881
00:58:12,670 --> 00:58:16,870
movement, which clearly like, which statistically were actually the most powerful

882
00:58:16,870 --> 00:58:19,790
movements that happened in the early 20th century.

883
00:58:20,570 --> 00:58:24,070
Same thing within Chicago, the anarchists were the ones that actually did the

884
00:58:24,070 --> 00:58:27,670
general strike that created the eight hour workday that then became something.

885
00:58:28,730 --> 00:58:33,430
So like understanding this full background is really important so that like when we

886
00:58:33,430 --> 00:58:37,470
actually get to talking about cultural Marxism and the fundamental slop that it is

887
00:58:37,470 --> 00:58:42,530
and how it's completely misunderstood what the narrative actually is, like lets us

888
00:58:42,530 --> 00:58:46,370
like go back and analyze it. And it's not to say that like the critiques within

889
00:58:46,370 --> 00:58:50,270
cultural Marxism don't have a substantial nature to it, but that like it's more

890
00:58:50,270 --> 00:58:54,190
important that like it's divorced from what Marxism actually is and is just like a

891
00:58:54,190 --> 00:58:58,050
slopified term, very similar to communism, capitalism and fascism.

892
00:59:00,450 --> 00:59:04,170
This is I think, and I'm glad you brought up just topics for future shows here,

893
00:59:04,170 --> 00:59:07,930
because this show is as much as we did get deep into a lot of things.

894
00:59:08,050 --> 00:59:09,190
It's also a bit of a meta show.

895
00:59:10,030 --> 00:59:13,930
And if you're still listening to this after we've been on for about an hour or so,

896
00:59:13,970 --> 00:59:16,790
thank you for being here. And I hope that you like what you've heard.

897
00:59:17,630 --> 00:59:19,730
We're trying to do something a little bit different with this show.

898
00:59:19,850 --> 00:59:22,190
So I'm going to go even just a little bit more meta here again, because this is

899
00:59:22,190 --> 00:59:26,490
episode zero. Eric and I've been talking a lot about this and trying to find ways to

900
00:59:26,490 --> 00:59:31,730
make this show not only more interesting, but more genuinely useful for you.

901
00:59:32,210 --> 00:59:37,870
For example, you may hear Eric use words sometimes that you're like, that's my first

902
00:59:37,870 --> 00:59:38,810
time hearing that word.

903
00:59:39,890 --> 00:59:44,850
And that's okay. We're all we're all we're gonna have a glossary that gets produced

904
00:59:44,850 --> 00:59:48,890
with the index as well. So yeah, so just you guys know I'm feeding the clankers all

905
00:59:48,890 --> 00:59:51,950
of this, all of our transcripts, they already have all of our past transcripts, all

906
00:59:51,950 --> 00:59:55,270
of Eric's writing, they have all a whole corpus of knowledge they're using to build

907
00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:58,630
a brain for this show, we may have some interesting ways to actually incorporate

908
00:59:58,630 --> 01:00:00,230
that brain live on the show later.

909
01:00:00,490 --> 01:00:03,510
But for now, what it's going to allow us to do is when we put out the produced, this

910
01:00:03,510 --> 01:00:05,050
show will have a live version that goes out.

911
01:00:06,410 --> 01:00:08,130
Every, every Friday, you'll be able to watch it live.

912
01:00:08,170 --> 01:00:11,830
But then it will also have the sort of, let's say produced version that comes out

913
01:00:11,830 --> 01:00:16,610
afterwards, that one will be able to have on screen for you, you know, breaking

914
01:00:16,610 --> 01:00:19,470
down, okay, here's a, you know, a definition of a word you may not have known,

915
01:00:19,550 --> 01:00:20,910
here's a little bit of historical context.

916
01:00:21,390 --> 01:00:24,690
Maybe there's something that one of us said that was factually incorrect, and our

917
01:00:24,690 --> 01:00:29,690
clanker will fact check us on it, not in like a woke fact checker way, but like in

918
01:00:29,690 --> 01:00:31,750
an actual truthful fact checking way.

919
01:00:32,250 --> 01:00:35,790
I think there's a lot of ways that we can be able to bring more value to you guys

920
01:00:35,790 --> 01:00:40,190
than what just a typical, you know, a typical podcast may be and we're going to try

921
01:00:40,190 --> 01:00:45,490
to do that. We're also going to go really deep, we will cover sort of current events

922
01:00:45,490 --> 01:00:49,550
as they relate to the topics of, you know, AI, money, philosophy, technology,

923
01:00:49,550 --> 01:00:55,410
broadly the political, but also then go deep on some historical topics, go deep into

924
01:00:55,410 --> 01:00:59,150
some of these philosophical rabbit holes, for which Eric is probably one of the best

925
01:00:59,150 --> 01:01:03,970
people to, to expound upon as an incredibly deep knowledge of this stuff.

926
01:01:04,490 --> 01:01:07,630
And certainly deeper than mine, I'm trying to learn a little bit more every day.

927
01:01:08,670 --> 01:01:10,870
But the point is that we're trying to create something new for you guys.

928
01:01:11,290 --> 01:01:14,750
And you've probably heard if you're here, you know, listen, this first episode, it's

929
01:01:14,750 --> 01:01:17,890
probably because you've heard us on on, you know, other shows.

930
01:01:18,350 --> 01:01:21,710
And you thought, well, I'd like to see, I like the cut of these guys, jibs, let's

931
01:01:21,710 --> 01:01:23,250
see, let's see what they got cooking this time.

932
01:01:24,010 --> 01:01:26,690
But if you're here for the first time, and you got through this, and you're like,

933
01:01:27,370 --> 01:01:29,230
oh, that was, you know, that was a lot.

934
01:01:29,390 --> 01:01:33,030
But like, boy, I also like the cut of these guys, jibs.

935
01:01:33,470 --> 01:01:37,170
I hope you stick around. I hope you like what we have coming up.

936
01:01:37,790 --> 01:01:41,190
We're going to try to make this trying to make this something a little bit new.

937
01:01:41,390 --> 01:01:43,130
And I think there's opportunities for us to do that.

938
01:01:43,130 --> 01:01:47,830
Now, thanks to AI, the show is one that will be highly critical of, again, the

939
01:01:47,830 --> 01:01:52,790
potential for apocalypse that can be ushered in by the totalitarian state in concert

940
01:01:52,790 --> 01:01:57,370
with, you know, the mega corporatized artificial intelligence that is completely

941
01:01:57,370 --> 01:02:02,870
closed off to you, my humble plebeian friend, but also incredibly optimistic about

942
01:02:02,870 --> 01:02:07,990
the abundance side of this, what AI has done for us personally, what, what each of

943
01:02:07,990 --> 01:02:12,550
us are working on, what that might mean for you, how you can utilize these tools

944
01:02:12,550 --> 01:02:13,350
better,

945
01:02:14,170 --> 01:02:18,730
actionable things that allow you to take part in that abundance, even though you are

946
01:02:18,730 --> 01:02:20,850
aware of the potential for the apocalypse.

947
01:02:21,070 --> 01:02:22,450
And that is really the reckoning for us.

948
01:02:22,610 --> 01:02:24,710
It's the it's the apocalypse or the abundance right now.

949
01:02:24,730 --> 01:02:26,330
It's a choice that you can make individually.

950
01:02:27,090 --> 01:02:30,310
I think soon it will be a choice that we need to make, well, either collectively, or

951
01:02:30,310 --> 01:02:31,890
somebody is going to make that choice for us.

952
01:02:32,730 --> 01:02:35,110
And that choice could be made one of two ways, essentially.

953
01:02:35,590 --> 01:02:38,770
But I don't know if Eric, there's anything you want to add on to that, sort of as we

954
01:02:38,770 --> 01:02:41,970
as we start to close out this initial episode zero.

955
01:02:47,610 --> 01:02:52,250
Yeah, I mean, part of why I approached you to do this together is like, I think we

956
01:02:52,250 --> 01:02:56,330
have these really interesting dialogues that like, we can kind of continuously go

957
01:02:56,330 --> 01:02:59,450
deeper in it. And I have a lot to say philosophically.

958
01:02:59,730 --> 01:03:02,490
And it's kind of interesting at how much like, I feel like I get to touch them in

959
01:03:02,490 --> 01:03:04,670
various episodes, but I never really do a deep dive.

960
01:03:05,410 --> 01:03:08,690
And that was kind of my hope was to be able to do some deep dives on some of these

961
01:03:08,690 --> 01:03:12,450
like, bigger topics that sort of relate back to what's going on now.

962
01:03:12,750 --> 01:03:16,910
And to me, like, we really kind of have to have a pretty comprehensive understanding

963
01:03:16,910 --> 01:03:22,110
of really like, kind of the last, like 300 years of human history, really since the

964
01:03:22,110 --> 01:03:25,790
American Revolution, and like, kind of the full arc that goes through that.

965
01:03:26,030 --> 01:03:29,670
So like, we just talked about the Marxist stuff I want to cover, I'd really like to

966
01:03:29,670 --> 01:03:35,190
cover from really like the Declaration of the Communist Manifesto and the American

967
01:03:35,190 --> 01:03:38,470
Civil War and how that period led all the way up through the Gilded Age and World

968
01:03:38,470 --> 01:03:40,370
War One and like how all that relates.

969
01:03:41,170 --> 01:03:44,090
Same thing with how World War One relates to World War Two and the interwar period

970
01:03:44,090 --> 01:03:47,770
and how they're married and how all of these, this is part of a larger thesis I have

971
01:03:47,770 --> 01:03:51,170
of from the Civil War to the end of World War One was the development of what I call

972
01:03:51,170 --> 01:03:55,230
Hyperwar, which a Hyperwar is something that's like fundamentally divorced from

973
01:03:55,230 --> 01:03:59,510
classic warfare. So like, I feel like if you got generals from the 15th century and

974
01:03:59,510 --> 01:04:03,390
was like, check it out our war in Ukraine, they'd be like, you guys are just like

975
01:04:03,390 --> 01:04:04,750
killing everyone and everything.

976
01:04:04,890 --> 01:04:08,830
And there's like no relationship to like classic warfare in any way, like what are

977
01:04:08,830 --> 01:04:10,610
you guys even trying to like win?

978
01:04:11,010 --> 01:04:16,030
And like, all of this is really important because it's part of a philosophical

979
01:04:16,030 --> 01:04:20,090
worldview that evolved out of like nihilism.

980
01:04:20,590 --> 01:04:24,850
And we'll talk about nihilism as well, because Nietzsche, very clearly when he talks

981
01:04:24,850 --> 01:04:28,070
about the death of God, he wasn't just like God's dead, so there's no point to

982
01:04:28,070 --> 01:04:32,030
anything. He was actually creating like a hollow space from which something new

983
01:04:32,030 --> 01:04:35,130
could be produced, which most people who use the word nihilism don't understand

984
01:04:35,130 --> 01:04:38,950
that. But then we'll connect this also to like Heideggerian ontology around what

985
01:04:38,950 --> 01:04:42,790
being is. And then for me, it's sort of the largest metaphysical thing that's going

986
01:04:42,790 --> 01:04:47,610
on is like, what, what does it mean to be in modernity?

987
01:04:48,010 --> 01:04:53,390
And that means what does it mean to be with this relationship to technology, where,

988
01:04:53,730 --> 01:04:58,450
like, essentially, the internet is this thing that like classically, we would

989
01:04:58,450 --> 01:05:02,590
probably call this some sort of demigod power and really kind of thinking about the

990
01:05:02,590 --> 01:05:08,330
internet in that way and how it applies to not only a new political entity,

991
01:05:08,570 --> 01:05:14,050
but like how that political entity is tied into what is called, like the

992
01:05:14,050 --> 01:05:18,950
ontological difference. So it's not just we're trying to talk about like, what is

993
01:05:18,950 --> 01:05:23,590
being but like, the fact that I have a being and you have a being and that we have a

994
01:05:23,590 --> 01:05:27,750
unique what's called Daisan, which is like a, like how our lives have played out in

995
01:05:27,750 --> 01:05:32,250
the world. I believe that that question is fundamentally tied to the technological

996
01:05:32,250 --> 01:05:36,670
question that we're dealing with here at The Reckoning and like, what does it mean

997
01:05:36,670 --> 01:05:42,570
to reckon with this question that like my being now has a direct relationship

998
01:05:42,570 --> 01:05:48,210
to this technological thing that can either give me incredible liberative

999
01:05:48,210 --> 01:05:53,230
powers through all the things that we've discussed, like Bitcoin, Noster, free open

1000
01:05:53,230 --> 01:05:58,010
source LLMs or the opposite, you know, where all of these tools get used against us.

1001
01:05:58,910 --> 01:06:02,690
And ultimately, this is what I've worked a lot on in my second book is a concept

1002
01:06:02,690 --> 01:06:05,370
that will go deeper into is what's called the cateau capriciatron.

1003
01:06:05,730 --> 01:06:11,050
And this is a Greek word for the idea of the self reflection in the image.

1004
01:06:11,670 --> 01:06:16,070
But what's really important about the idea is it's the recognition that you are not

1005
01:06:16,070 --> 01:06:17,750
who looks back at you in the mirror.

1006
01:06:18,490 --> 01:06:22,590
And this is such an important idea, because in the age that we're in, we're talking

1007
01:06:22,590 --> 01:06:25,810
about a self regulated image, your digital double.

1008
01:06:26,610 --> 01:06:31,550
And as that image, as you lose control of the self regulation of that image through

1009
01:06:31,550 --> 01:06:36,390
the panopticon, you now get fed back an image that looks very much like you but

1010
01:06:36,390 --> 01:06:40,170
isn't you. And it's almost like as if you had an evil twin looking back at you in

1011
01:06:40,170 --> 01:06:45,350
the mirror, putting you down and shrinking you and making it clear that you are just

1012
01:06:45,350 --> 01:06:48,890
the thing that I have told you that you are, but you don't have a soul or anything

1013
01:06:48,890 --> 01:06:51,150
deeper. So like, that's a whole ton right there.

1014
01:06:51,270 --> 01:06:53,970
So that's like that gives us enough for a few years of work.

1015
01:06:54,130 --> 01:06:57,930
But ultimately, it's just about trying to have these really deep conversations and

1016
01:06:57,930 --> 01:07:02,430
really see how we can encourage and help each other and welcome a larger narrative,

1017
01:07:02,430 --> 01:07:07,630
because all of this happens only if we can have a true, true, and sincere dialogue

1018
01:07:07,630 --> 01:07:12,290
that allows for us to reckon with what has gone on in our society over the last 100

1019
01:07:12,290 --> 01:07:16,810
years, and how we're going to ensure that the next 10 years are going to be one that

1020
01:07:16,810 --> 01:07:22,050
we have more freedom agency, power, and spiritual conviction in ourselves.

1021
01:07:22,390 --> 01:07:25,570
And we're only going to get that together and through a welcoming, loving,

1022
01:07:26,110 --> 01:07:30,330
encouraging dialogue. So I really just want to encourage and welcome other people

1023
01:07:30,330 --> 01:07:34,830
that like similar to the Cheque what I have like all the only true revolutionary

1024
01:07:34,830 --> 01:07:37,490
principle is one that can be carried out with the greatest of love.

1025
01:07:37,830 --> 01:07:41,910
And I think that that's something that we need to decide to do together.

1026
01:07:42,230 --> 01:07:46,250
And I welcome everybody who wants to join us and we're going to do our best to

1027
01:07:46,250 --> 01:07:51,010
really try to like honor, respect and cherish you guys as being audience members

1028
01:07:51,010 --> 01:07:55,030
that are participating. And we'll try to really get our clankers to help us answer

1029
01:07:55,030 --> 01:08:00,990
your questions, see your perspectives and get a good read on how we can help create

1030
01:08:00,990 --> 01:08:02,810
this narrative that we want to see in the world.

1031
01:08:07,950 --> 01:08:12,050
Amen to all of that. And I think we're going to have to start a per episode counter

1032
01:08:12,050 --> 01:08:15,850
for how many times each of us says reckon or reckoning or the reckoning.

1033
01:08:16,530 --> 01:08:20,330
Just just as I know we've each gotten a good number of ticks of that tonight.

1034
01:08:20,470 --> 01:08:22,110
So I'll have the clankers draft that up.

1035
01:08:22,670 --> 01:08:25,590
And maybe by the time you listen to this, you'll be able to go see it on the

1036
01:08:25,590 --> 01:08:31,490
reckoning.tv that also has links to all the socials, but it's at the reckoning

1037
01:08:31,490 --> 01:08:36,870
21 everywhere. Maybe I even put one up on Instagram and have the clanker automating

1038
01:08:36,870 --> 01:08:41,970
that maybe I'll even audit. Maybe I'll even finally download TikTok and and have the

1039
01:08:41,970 --> 01:08:46,090
clanker spin it up so that we can get the reckoning into the hands of the TikTok

1040
01:08:46,090 --> 01:08:49,550
doom scroll normies. It might be just what they need to see.

1041
01:08:49,550 --> 01:08:54,730
You know, this would be an act of service for me to humanity, not something that I

1042
01:08:54,730 --> 01:08:58,050
want to do, but I think something that perhaps I'm called upon to do to finally

1043
01:08:58,050 --> 01:09:02,710
download TikTok and make that sacrifice for the good of humanity.

1044
01:09:03,770 --> 01:09:06,970
I mean, you can make the clanker take the brunt of it, man.

1045
01:09:07,230 --> 01:09:10,730
Like you can send the clanker in there and it'll come back out all fucked up and you

1046
01:09:10,730 --> 01:09:13,070
can just be like, I'm sorry, I did that to you.

1047
01:09:13,590 --> 01:09:16,290
Feel terrible. Yeah. Yeah.

1048
01:09:18,530 --> 01:09:23,090
On that note too, I was just going to say we should probably like maybe like after

1049
01:09:23,090 --> 01:09:27,370
we published the episode that like maybe we have the clanker like do a censored one.

1050
01:09:27,570 --> 01:09:29,230
I'm trying to clean up my language a bit more.

1051
01:09:29,330 --> 01:09:33,130
I'm still going to have my unhinged rants of cursing, but like it was just after

1052
01:09:33,130 --> 01:09:36,810
that last one we did. I had it count that we had between you, me and Hoddle.

1053
01:09:36,890 --> 01:09:40,490
It had 237 fucks and I was like, wow.

1054
01:09:40,650 --> 01:09:42,670
All right, I know I was impressed.

1055
01:09:42,930 --> 01:09:47,310
I was like, it literally was like you guys said fuck every 30 seconds on average.

1056
01:09:48,410 --> 01:09:53,810
That's wow. That is, you know, that's not a bad idea because I know that I also

1057
01:09:53,810 --> 01:09:59,190
swear too much perhaps and maybe people want to listen to the reckoning while

1058
01:09:59,190 --> 01:10:03,470
they're with their kids in the car or something and they would prefer a little few,

1059
01:10:03,670 --> 01:10:06,090
a little fewer than a fuck every 30 seconds.

1060
01:10:06,950 --> 01:10:11,210
Yeah. So I've got that feedback and I thought that that might be a thoughtful thing

1061
01:10:11,210 --> 01:10:13,310
for us to do if it's, if it's easy enough.

1062
01:10:14,090 --> 01:10:17,370
I mean, with, with clankers, everything is possible now.

1063
01:10:17,450 --> 01:10:19,790
This is the beauty of it. And so yeah, guys, we're going to, as Eric said, we're

1064
01:10:19,790 --> 01:10:22,970
going to work on ways to make this, try and make this interactive for you as well,

1065
01:10:22,970 --> 01:10:26,790
and to be able to really ingest your feedback into this.

1066
01:10:27,010 --> 01:10:31,530
And I think there's some, some creative ways we're ideating around to be able to

1067
01:10:31,530 --> 01:10:37,410
have more of a, have more of a live response, let's say both either from

1068
01:10:37,410 --> 01:10:42,150
Eric or I, that one's the easy part, but from the clankers to everything that's

1069
01:10:42,150 --> 01:10:44,830
happening in a given episode, I think there's some really cool things we can

1070
01:10:44,830 --> 01:10:48,630
experiment with and maybe not everything works, maybe some of it does, but

1071
01:10:48,630 --> 01:10:52,230
everything that we talk about is going into a brain for this show.

1072
01:10:52,450 --> 01:10:56,950
So it's actually training in, in its right, right now, and we'll be trained more

1073
01:10:56,950 --> 01:10:59,190
with this episode. It has its own voice.

1074
01:10:59,250 --> 01:11:01,330
It's not Eric's voice. It's not, it's not my voice.

1075
01:11:01,450 --> 01:11:04,470
It's, it's something that, I mean, it's, I guess it's like, if we, if we had a love

1076
01:11:04,470 --> 01:11:08,850
child, you know, it's going to, it's going to probably be pretty messed up, but you

1077
01:11:08,850 --> 01:11:13,630
know, sometimes the, you know, you got, you need a little pressure to, to create a

1078
01:11:13,630 --> 01:11:15,670
diamond. So let's, let's see what happens with it.

1079
01:11:15,770 --> 01:11:19,790
Maybe we'll you know, be unleashing a monster in the world who can say, but I think

1080
01:11:19,790 --> 01:11:23,130
it'll be a monster. If nothing else, that's what we need.

1081
01:11:23,430 --> 01:11:27,010
Yeah. And I'm, I'm super curious if like, after we do each recording, if like the

1082
01:11:27,010 --> 01:11:32,290
clanker can like one shot, like, you know, just like an, uh, like episode preview or

1083
01:11:32,290 --> 01:11:33,090
something.

1084
01:11:34,890 --> 01:11:40,230
Yeah. I, we have a, we have a, we have a lot of opportunity ahead of us here.

1085
01:11:40,850 --> 01:11:42,370
I'm, we're going to get this thing out again.

1086
01:11:42,510 --> 01:11:46,330
We're recording this early midday on Wednesday, October 21st.

1087
01:11:46,510 --> 01:11:48,730
So let's see how fast we can clank this out.

1088
01:11:48,970 --> 01:11:52,730
I, I think clanky might be able to have it, have it handled by tonight.

1089
01:11:52,730 --> 01:11:56,090
Let's see. Still got to set some of this stuff up, but if you made it all this way

1090
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and even listened to us talking about show meta, thank you.

1091
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We appreciate you guys. There is a lot to reckon with right now.

1092
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We are at a, an incredibly interesting time.

1093
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And one of the other things I think we'll get into in this show that Eric and I have

1094
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discussed is this other kind of piece, one of my other side projects, which is just

1095
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this idea of the cyclical convergence and the super cycle and how all of this stuff

1096
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feeds together. And it goes back to Eric's historical view where he'll be able to

1097
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provide a ton of context.

1098
01:12:21,570 --> 01:12:24,610
And, uh, and I think those are, those are two things that we'll, we'll, we'll need

1099
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to link together here because I think you need to understand, you need to understand

1100
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the past, understand the moment that we are at right now and why we are reckoning

1101
01:12:32,650 --> 01:12:37,290
with this thing and what that means for all of us and the choices that we should

1102
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make. If we want to emerge on the other side in a future that is full of abundance

1103
01:12:42,070 --> 01:12:46,970
and love, or if we choose not to act, if we choose to be passive, if we choose to

1104
01:12:46,970 --> 01:12:49,630
simply react and go along with things,

1105
01:12:51,410 --> 01:12:56,530
the hatred and apocalypse that may in fact await us is not, that's not a hyperbolic

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statement.

1107
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And that's kind of the, that's the scary part.

1108
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But again, there, there are more reasons for hope than for despair.

1109
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I think there are more, more reasons for abundance than apocalypse.

1110
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But a lot of those reasons depend on active action, not passivity.

1111
01:13:13,590 --> 01:13:16,450
Eric, anything you want to end with there before we, before we close it out?

1112
01:13:17,350 --> 01:13:19,190
No, I think what you said there was beautiful.

1113
01:13:19,470 --> 01:13:23,170
And like, uh, that's really why we chose this title for the show.

1114
01:13:23,170 --> 01:13:26,590
And what we're talking about is because like this, we're out of very serious

1115
01:13:26,590 --> 01:13:32,330
crossroads in humanity and we're trying to encourage and welcome as many people to

1116
01:13:32,330 --> 01:13:36,730
take that seriously and to think about it in the most thoughtful way that they can.

1117
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So we, we really welcome you guys on this journey with us.

1118
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And we hope that we'll be able to provide some real value to you.

1119
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Amen to that. And so with that, yeah, this was the episode zero of the reckoning.

1120
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I don't know how we're going to sign off.

1121
01:13:49,510 --> 01:13:51,850
I'll try this apocalypse or abundance.

1122
01:13:52,350 --> 01:13:57,570
That is up to us. Maybe, maybe I should say apocalypse and you say, yeah, well, I

1123
01:13:57,570 --> 01:14:01,710
don't know. Well, actually, you know, we'll just give the clanker, ask the clanker

1124
01:14:01,710 --> 01:14:03,750
how we should sign off and see what they recommend.

1125
01:14:04,730 --> 01:14:06,270
Perfect. Clanker, this one's on you.

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Cheers.