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Are you listening?

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Good.

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Now that we have your attention, welcome to...

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Drumroll, please.

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The Snap!

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A podcast by me, your host, Katie.

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And me, your host, Ainsley.

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Just two girls in their 20s here to bring you a female-centric girl math tone to the

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Bitcoin, Noster, and value-for-value music space.

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As artists living in Nashville, we got tired of screaming into the void and tiptoeing around

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a broken music industry.

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Looking for a new way forward, we came across this space.

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And thought, why not give it a try?

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In this podcast, we'll deconstruct what traditional success in the music industry has looked like so far.

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How that definition is changing.

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And where the space comes in.

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We'll break down all of the big happenings in both the music and Bitcoin worlds, how they mix.

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We'll fangirl over our favorite music in the value-verse, as well as prop up amazing voices that have yet to be heard.

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We're so glad you're here.

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So let's get to it.

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

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Whoa.

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welcome one welcome all to what i think we're calling the snap season two baby we're back did

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you miss us y'all did right i think you guys absolutely missed us also as we're doing this

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i think we should give the people what they want let's take a selfie that we can post on

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master later oh i look terrible me too so i'm gonna post that on my nostril and you guys can see

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what we did what we looked like in the moment that we are recording this you guys are so welcome

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yeah you guys are so welcome sorry my hair is like slicked back and you can really see this

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in the headphones um but you're really gonna enjoy it i mean we've been all over the place

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everywhere except for nashville i mean i was in europe for a little bit which was really nice i

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with my family and we went to Spain, Scotland, Italy, and it was really nice. Like I haven't

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spent that much time with my parents since I lived with them in high school. Yeah. So

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that was also a little interesting bit. Yes. But you've also been all over the place. Yes.

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I was in a lot of different places. I have to take a minute and think about it. Okay.

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so I guess I'm not going to count Philly which was in April because we were there together so

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since then I have had shows in Vegas Portland Seattle New York I was in Florida but I didn't

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play a show that was just visiting family and then I did my first radio tour and that took me to

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Chattanooga Memphis and Jonesboro so you've been everywhere truly it was a wild ride and I

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feel like this is only the second or third week that I've like really fully been back in Nashville

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and we were talking before we started recording we're like we we are we are due for a chill fall

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yes in many ways oh my gosh I'm like I would just like some time to plan yes like recoup recoup

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kind of get things back in the schedule like I am a girl that has ADHD but loves a schedule

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like I want to know where I'm going I want to be busy yeah but at the same time I need to have a

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plan for that yes and so I feel like fall is definitely that time to kind of take a step back

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drink your coffee make your soup a little bit cold see I can go with the flow but when does

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the flow start right right when does the flow start I just want to know yeah just give me an

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estimated what's what's the weather like what do I need to wear what do I need to pack for the flow

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That's who I need to plan for.

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Truly.

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And that is the life of two girlies who live and die by the calendar.

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Yeah.

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Literally.

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Yeah.

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Can I tell you one of my traveling finds that I found out about myself this summer?

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You called it.

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I love an Aperol Spritz.

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I hate margaritas and I love an Aperol Spritz.

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margaritas are definitely yow um yow um as somebody who's gotten drunk off of margaritas before

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that headache in the morning uh-huh sucks yeah

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that headache in the morning you wonder where you are what time it is what planet you're on

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and then you go and throw up and you're like whoa whoa i had um a couple weeks ago

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So I had a pineapple in tequila or a pineapple in some sort of alcohol a couple weeks ago.

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And it wasn't, I don't think I was fully, I was hungover.

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But like an hour or so after I had that, I was like, ooh, I have a headache.

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Oh, I don't, I feel nauseous.

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And I had one drink.

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It was, but then again, I am built like a twig.

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I am approximately two feet tall.

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So I think any sip of alcohol is going to just like throw me like sugar we're going down.

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Well, yeah. And tequila is different from the majority of our other alcohols because tequila is an upper.

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What does that mean?

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The majority of alcohols are downers, meaning that when you drink it, you're going to get a little bit sad.

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You're going to get a little bit tired. You're going to get a little bit.

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I want to go home. Yeah.

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Or you're getting drunk and you're not really thinking about it, but you're going to have a crash at some point.

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okay tequila is not a downer she's a party girl tequila is like your Adderall of alcohol

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okay I did not know this but that makes sense yeah tequila is an upper therefore very sugary

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therefore massive headache yeah um so you're not gonna feel it when you're drinking it like in

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college I was drinking tequila because you can go out and have a few tequila shots and you feel

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great you feel on top of the world that alcohol in your system you are invincible your body is

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rubber until until it isn't right but until you have that headache that said if you were drinking

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vodka at the same time you would still be getting the same amount of drunk uh-huh but

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you're just a little bit slower like you're just a little bit more tired yeah um tequila just kind

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of takes that out of the picture it just really follows up on the back end yes so it's just that

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you're willing to sacrifice yeah oh my gosh so the first time I tried a margarita we were in Vegas

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for the Bitcoin conference shout out everybody who was at the Bitcoin conference um I just heard

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some sort of weird sound effect and katie took her starbucks drink and like knocked the volume

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pedal down with it i was like be gone um so it was the first time that i had a margarita was in

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vegas at the luxor after um so i was there i was in vegas for two back-to-back conferences

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tequila in vegas that's that's a wild ride that's a journey that is unlike any other

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yeah um so i was there i was in vegas for two back-to-back conferences one for the licensing

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expo and then of course the bitcoin conference was the week after and it like worked out perfectly

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that that's how it happened because it had fun great two weeks in vegas but i do have to say

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two weeks in vegas is two weeks too many in vegas we had a great time it was a great experience but

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it's vegas and i will leave it at that but it was like the the first night um that i was at the

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licensing expo and my mom and I went to go get food at one of the many, many restaurants inside

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the gargantuan pyramid that is the Luxor, which also as a girl who Egypt was my special interest,

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ancient Egypt and the mummification process in ancient Egypt was my special interest as an

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elementary school child. It was incredible. I loved staying in the Luxor for a week. It was amazing.

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Did you know that their elevators go at a diagonal?

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It was wild.

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Abel James and I had a conversation about how trippy it was.

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It was wild.

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Was Abel James sober?

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Because that conversation.

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Abel, I'm going to need a response.

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No, I had that conversation.

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It's like on a plaque in the elevators in the Luxor that because it's a pyramid and it's designed in a way

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that the elevators can't go directly up.

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They go at a diagonal

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because you get assigned an elevator

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based on where your room is.

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So I think we were at the red elevators or something.

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And so they go like diagonally to the right.

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And so then the yellow elevators

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will go diagonally to the right

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on that side of the pyramid.

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So it just, I'm not an architect.

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It's wild.

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And I'm just trying to talk about

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my margarita experience in the first place.

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Okay, so.

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I'm so confused.

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Wait, I'm just still confused about these elevators.

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I am too.

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Wait, wait, just one question and then we can move on.

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Yes, of course.

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So when you're in the elevator.

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Yes.

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Do you feel like you're going diagonal?

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Yes, it's weird.

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So it's not the normal, I guess, gravity momentum that you feel when you're going up.

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You feel it, but you get jerked to the sideways a little bit.

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Wait, okay, okay, okay, okay.

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now I'm kind of seeing this so diagonal I'm thinking about it as like you're starting from

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a outer point of this pyramid and then going to the top diagonal yeah so or are we going diagonal

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as in like if you're looking at the face like one of these faces you're going diagonal across from

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like the bottom to the other side diagonal that one okay I think that makes more sense yeah so if

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say if you're like if you're at the bottom also I'm directionally challenged so this is kind of

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hard for me to explain if you are at the bottom left corner of one of the the um the sides of the

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luxor and you get in to go to your room you're going at a diagonal to like the top right technically

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so okay if you're listening and you're like me and so this diagonal is not going towards the

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center of the pyramid it's going across the pyramid it's going across the pyramid okay i'm

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sure that there are that makes way more sense it's a it's a well-known like biggest fact of how trippy

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the the luxor elevators are i'm sure that there's an article or a youtube video on it somewhere

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there's got to be right yeah um so it was wild abel james and i had a conversation about how

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wacky the elevators are um and so okay back to the margaritas though um circling back circling

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back so we are inside the luxor um we're at we're at um one of the mexican restaurants that are just

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in there because my mom and I were like yeah let's do Mexican food that sounds good um and

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the guy who's like the manager he's like can I we I mean I look like Pepto personified I'm branded

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I've been walking around this conference all day like you can spot me from a mile away I'm in pink

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and orange I'm sparkly um and he's like okay this girl clearly just turned 21 and he was so like

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can I be the first person to give you your first margarita and my mom was with me and she was like

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given this guy the side eye the whole time so then he proceeded she was a little bit like

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what's going on here do you think so the guy brings me the first you're trying to hit on my

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daughter yes um so he brings me the first margarita which is just I guess a typical traditional margarita um and then he proceeds to ask me he like oh I not going to be offended if you don like it yada yada yada And he says oh well do you like cucumbers

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And I said, yeah, I like cucumbers.

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I like the actual food, and then I like the flavor of the cucumbers.

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He said, can I bring you a different margarita?

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He brings me, like, two free margaritas.

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And I hate both of them.

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I'm so sorry.

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It was nasty disgusto.

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Disgusting as the vine says

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Disgusting

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After the margaritas

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You really got your biggest experience

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Oh truly and he was like

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He was like trying to guess a lucky number

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And he was like I'm getting three

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And then he looks at my mom and goes

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So I'm guessing dad's still in the picture

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I don't remember what his name was

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but I'm going to call him Jerry. Jerry, if you're listening to this, thank you for that really weird

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experience having two margaritas, two of my first margaritas in the Luxor at Vegas.

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She says it was disgusting, but thank you. Thank you anyways. And so, yeah, that was in Vegas. And

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then a month and a half later, I had an Aperol Spritz when I went to visit my hometown of Seattle,

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Washington, and my life was forever changed. My life was forever changed. Yes. And then I had

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another one the next night and it was great the night that that night so it was the night that we

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were dropping off um Eli and Jackson at the airport because we were coming off of doing

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the show in Portland and then my like big hometown show um in Tacoma at the Spanish Ballroom which

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was just like amazing it was one of my favorite shows I've ever done it was such an emotional

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night um and so then two days later um me and one of my best friends Sydney we got got to spend the

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day together like hadn't seen each other in five years and so like we went out shopping we spent the

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fourth of july together so that's the day that it was um and so we spent the day together we went out

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shopping we got ice cream all the things and then we met back up with my parents because my parents

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love her and we were like we want to catch up with her too um and so we met up at mcminimins

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which is actually where the spanish ballroom is it's like a really cool hangout spot it's a hotel

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it's a music venue it's like very cool venue um and so sydney and i walk up to the mcminimins and

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this guy who's walking out he's like oh do you guys are you guys going to the secret bar and we're

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like secret bar what do you mean and I've been to McMinimins many times when I lived there and I

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had not heard of the secret bar and so we were like no tell us where the secret bar is because

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also we're both 21 now we were like oh my gosh we've known each other since we were living let's

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get drinks together because this would be cool so we go to the secret bar and it's cool it's a fun

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experience I had like an Earl Grey martini and I thought I would have liked it but it was gin

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um so that was a little bit of a bummer Sydney loved mine though um and then we stayed the rest

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of the night and we watched the fireworks together and I was like you know what I would love though

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an Aperol Spritz and then she got a gin and tonic so we got blasted hammered no we didn't

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we had we had two drinks and we're very responsible yeah two drinks yes and the first night that I

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tried the Aperol Spritz um we were all getting dinner before we dropped Eli and Jackson off at

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the airport. My mom took a sip of it and she thought it was disgusting. And she was like,

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there's no way you're finishing that. And I said, watch me. And I finished it. And Eli and Jackson

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cheered me on. And that's the kind of bandmates that I need. They were not pressuring me to get

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drunk. They were just like, that was impressive that you did that. It was responsible. It was

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one drink. And I really liked it. And that was a lot of me ranting and yapping about alcohol. So

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Katie, what about you? What did you have any fun alcohol experiences on your trip?

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So, speaking of gin, so my dad and I, we buttheads.

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You know, I'm an only child.

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I was the son he never had.

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And essentially, we haven't spent a lot of time together since I was in high school.

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Like, I haven't spent more than probably a month with my parents, less than that, since I started college.

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Yeah.

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Like, it's kind of part of...

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Like, back-to-back consecutive time with them.

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Yeah.

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I mean, it's part of growing up and kind of, you know, leaving home, which sucks.

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But essentially, all that's to say, my parents had planned this really long trip in Europe.

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and I you know found out and I was like hey so what are the odds of me being able to go with you

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guys and they were like well if you can get the time off and I was like sold sold I don't care

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I'll quit my job yeah are you kidding me buy a restaurant I work at a dive bar see you guys later

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wouldn't want to be a literally like I will find a different job when I get back I'm going and so

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we go uh-huh and one of the places that we went was scotland and i historically do not like

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mind you my entire family and i have watched outlander and that was one of the main reasons

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that we wanted to go to scotland katie sent me this awesome picture of her um in scotland

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behind prison park yeah yeah and i was like new profile picture unlocked for real or locked in

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yeah so i so all i say it's gotland we i had this gin that i really liked and i historically hate

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gin so me being me i'm in a different country this is the first time that i have ever been in

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a different country and i have legally been able to drink that said every other country if you can

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see over the bar you can drink so i was drinking in these other countries but anyways so i liked

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this gin and i was like dad i'm of legal age i can buy this i'm a grown adult woman and bring

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this back to america because i really like this gin yeah and my dad being the practical man that

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he is goes katie you're not gonna carry around a bottle of alcohol in your suitcase for the next

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two weeks so oh and i was like but i'm a grown adult so we we got into it a little bit uh-huh

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um my mom was laughing at us she was like you guys are ridiculous you're really gonna argue over

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gin right now she was just like eating popcorn in the corner no she well so mind you we get into

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this argument like as we're walking back from dinner uh-huh and where was the gin was it at

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the restaurant or was it at a store it was at the restaurant okay so i and he and the guy told me

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there's a liquor store down the street that you can get it so i was like i already have all the

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information i need to go and get this gym like i say no more like i have all the information i have

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the brand i have the price and so we're walking back and i go to walk in there and yeah he just

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was not having it stomps back to his room i stomp back to my room i get a text from my mom

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it's like if you guys are done being stupid i'm in the bar go sandy yeah she's like if you guys

249
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are done like with your little hissy fit i'm in the bar if you want to come hang out and so i went

250
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and hung out with my mother and my dad was still stubborn like if if anybody wonders where i get my

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stubbornness from um yeah so it was brewing you know we're both very stubborn people

252
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and we haven't spent that much time together in a very long time so the funniest thing to me was

253
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not that we argued I could have seen that coming from a mile away of course yeah it was just over

254
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gin really that's that's the thing that you're gonna like stick your foot down like really

255
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so then my follow-up question is did you end up getting the gin did you end up bringing the gin

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home so so after after coming to terms with the practicality that my dad was saying okay maybe dad

257
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you might be a little bit right a harsh reality the harsh reality that maybe he has some merit

258
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to what he's saying i go i'll just buy it when i get back to america i look when we get back to

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america of how much money this gin is it's like 150 bucks to get it sent from scotland

260
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is that usd or the scotland how much was it how much would it have been if you bought it in scotland

261
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25 oh no 25 so i'm like dad look here buddy yeah it was 20 if you would let me get it there

262
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it would have been 25 bucks yeah but because now i have to get it while we're here you have to buy

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that for me that's your problem i don't make the rules and i expect it by christmas thank you very

264
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much you're paying 20 interest on this gin more than that yeah and i mean all of this is a good

265
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fun right like they took me on this amazing trip of course and this it was a combination of

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granted we just got to this hotel that there was a whole thing like when you book this hotel

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on the website like the name of it was like palace something like it was super fancy was it like an

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old castle that they had converted well okay not an old castle like it was just a really old

269
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building on the river super pretty like you look at it and you're like oh my gosh i'm so excited

270
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i'm gonna stay in this like medieval castle vibe and we like walk in and get to the desk and they

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go hey so we have a bus full of people in here that have booked up all of the rooms in this

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building but but but but we have a building that's right next door that we've just went ahead and put

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you in you can't put in the outhouse no so the guest house i should say yeah so we walk across

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street yeah and you get in the hotel rooms and it's not like it's not bad it's not like

275
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thirst bugs i'm not worried about cleanliness i'm not worried about that type of thing

276
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it's just one of those i was expecting to stay here and i've paid for staying here yes and you've

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Put me right over here.

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And I haven't paid for staying here.

279
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And it's like way worse.

280
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Did they give you like a refund for, did they refund like, okay, you expected to pay to stay over here.

281
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So then we'll take, you know, 50, 100 bucks off of this.

282
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Nope.

283
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Okay.

284
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Fine print.

285
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Oh.

286
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It was one of those.

287
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It was like, well, we can't really do anything.

288
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So what do you expect us to do?

289
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And my mom, granted, you don't want to mess with the lawyer, Sandra.

290
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No, of course not.

291
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She's scary.

292
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She's scary.

293
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So she went and walked herself up to this little desk and somehow walked away with a different room.

294
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So that's her.

295
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In the original hotel?

296
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No, still not in the original hotel.

297
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Okay.

298
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But it was still in this building right beside the hotel.

299
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Okay The staples But it was a better room Were you guys all in one room or did you guys get multiple rooms We got two rooms in that one Like this mind you this is one where like my mom splurged and got two rooms so that I could have my own room and it was in a nice place

300
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That's a bummer.

301
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Yeah.

302
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Yeah.

303
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So this is on the heels of finding all of that out and then going to dinner.

304
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So mind you, then we've also traveled.

305
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Like we've driven like four or five hours that day.

306
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Oh, yep.

307
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So on top of that.

308
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Everyone's on edge.

309
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We're hungry.

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We're tired.

311
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And we've been traveling for three and a half weeks already.

312
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Yes.

313
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So it's, yeah, it was just a whole lot of things at the same time.

314
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And it really just came down to my gin.

315
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Yeah.

316
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So what was the flavor palette of this gin?

317
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It was just a raspberry gin.

318
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Like there was nothing super incredibly special about it.

319
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Like, it was just the first gin that I was like, oh, my gosh, I actually really like this.

320
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This doesn't taste like leaves.

321
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Uh-huh.

322
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What else happened?

323
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So, in Scotland, on that same, like, trip, right, as we leave there, we go and stay at this other hotel.

324
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No, this hotel, this was a very nice hotel.

325
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Okay.

326
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this was in edinburgh and this was the hotel that um jk rowling wrote the last harry potter book in

327
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whoa like it was so cool so like i'm walking around like oh my god if everybody at my dive

328
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bar could see me now uh-huh yeah so we get to this very nice hotel and we're walking around

329
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and this is after okay my dad my mom volunteered my dad to drive in scotland not asking my dad if

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he wanted to drive in scotland on the wrong side of the road on the wrong side of the car

331
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different brakes gears different everything actually questioned about that real quick

332
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because i have always wondered about this so you know how in america when you're driving on the

333
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left side of the car the gas is on the left and the brakes are on the right is it the same over

334
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there yes okay it's the same pedal wise and like everything else it's just that the steering legal

335
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and that whole driver's side is just on the opposite side okay because I've always wondered

336
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if the mechanics were a little different okay um yeah my my dad had said that he was like if

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if the pedals were different that would just be an absolute no yeah like no way um so we get to

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this very nice hotel and by the time we get there like my dad has he's an anxious man okay

339
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why why my mom volunteered my 65 year old dad to drive in scotland i still i and mind you my dad

340
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killed it absolutely killed it smashed it did an amazing job but why why would you do that um

341
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So part of this to having the rental car, we, as we're staying at this very nice hotel, there's like a tea service and there's like this whole tour thing that we have lined up.

342
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But my mom has had it in her head that we're going to go and see all these different castles.

343
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Like everywhere across the country, we are seeing stone.

344
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Stone castles, built, history, all the things.

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Lollabrock.

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Rock.

347
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Yes.

348
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so igneous formation we are going to go see history god damn it yeah

349
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we americans are gonna go learn so so we're driving and we go and see this castle very

350
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underwhelming and on the way there we see the oh lollibroch from outlander so we go and see that

351
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beautiful awesome and then we can't find this other castle or driving around for like 20 minutes

352
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can't find this castle finally find the castle walk around again very underwhelming because at

353
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this point it was like just rock you know what i mean like there wasn't really anything inside to

354
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see like you're looking at it cool castle cool we've seen it yeah thank you next thank you next

355
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like awesome so then as we're driving back mind you we're driving back because we have a tea

356
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appointment that's at like two and like hours yeah hours and then we have a tour like an underground

357
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walking tour ghost tour oh yeah and so driving back we're driving along this like kind of dirt

358
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ish road and we take this turn and my dad absolutely nails this rock

359
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like he didn't just hit it he hit it and and all you hear is like a

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what did the car get scraped scratched did the car didn't get scratched the tire just got

361
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obliterated oh no

362
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oh was this when you were telling me that you guys got stranded on the side of the road for like five

363
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hours so suffice to say so yeah um so then we were stuck and at this point it's like four hours

364
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before this he is supposed to start and i am willing to bet that triple a is just not waiting

365
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to come and get you in scotland no okay uh-huh we call the rental company and it's not triple a

366
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It's double A.

367
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It's double A in Scotland.

368
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Okay.

369
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I don't know.

370
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Down a battery size.

371
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Right.

372
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Where did the third one go?

373
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But we don't know.

374
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So it takes a few hours for them to get there.

375
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At this point, we've missed the tour.

376
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My dad is beside himself.

377
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He's like, I've ruined this entire trip.

378
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I can't believe that I got a flat tire and we were going to do all these things.

379
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And I'm like, dad, it's okay.

380
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And when you're traveling for that long, something is going to go wrong.

381
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Right.

382
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And also, I can very much empathize with him as a fellow anxious person and an even more anxious driver, if that is.

383
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Yeah.

384
00:29:50,584 --> 00:29:53,864
Well, and you're driving on the wrong side of the road on the wrong side of the car.

385
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Yes.

386
00:29:54,344 --> 00:29:59,944
Like, all things considered, a flat tire is not the worst of our issues.

387
00:30:00,184 --> 00:30:00,444
No.

388
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Absolutely not.

389
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No.

390
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And also, a little caveat in there.

391
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I was not bothered that we had four or five hours to just chill on the side of the road

392
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because at that current moment I was reading a book that had been very much recommended to me

393
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very highly recommended that I had pushed back reading for a very long time because I was like

394
00:30:24,024 --> 00:30:32,024
if it's so hyped it's not that good yes I was reading fourth wing okay so I was perfectly fine

395
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Oh, I'm sure.

396
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To be chilling for four or five hours on the side of the road.

397
00:30:35,044 --> 00:30:36,484
So you liked Fourth Wing.

398
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I loved, I ate through those books.

399
00:30:40,144 --> 00:30:41,564
Okay, so I haven't read it.

400
00:30:42,024 --> 00:30:47,084
And they have, they, as the Book Talk community, which I'm very much a part of,

401
00:30:47,324 --> 00:30:51,364
has since said that the last two books aren't great.

402
00:30:51,724 --> 00:30:54,204
What did you feel about the overall series?

403
00:30:54,424 --> 00:30:56,144
Because it's a trilogy, right?

404
00:30:56,564 --> 00:30:57,904
So it's not finished yet.

405
00:30:58,044 --> 00:30:58,384
Okay.

406
00:30:58,384 --> 00:31:01,244
The third, I think there's supposed to be like five or six.

407
00:31:01,244 --> 00:31:08,804
in the series oh okay so yeah it's about halfway through yeah um and the third book was definitely

408
00:31:08,804 --> 00:31:15,344
confusing like not okay not confusing but like there were some more plot holes that i think

409
00:31:15,344 --> 00:31:24,084
she's gonna write in the fourth book to make make sense okay but it's like reading i i would assume

410
00:31:24,084 --> 00:31:28,744
it would be like reading like throne of glass or a court of thorns and roses yeah as it's coming out

411
00:31:28,744 --> 00:31:34,124
yeah because there's so many different cliffhangers that if you hadn't read like I ate through a

412
00:31:34,124 --> 00:31:39,404
quarter of those oh absolutely if I was reading that series as it was coming out I would have

413
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not been the person to be around yeah because it's there's so many intricacies that happen

414
00:31:44,344 --> 00:31:47,944
within the span of one book and so then you have to wait a year and a half two years for it to come

415
00:31:47,944 --> 00:31:51,964
out which is how we're all feeling about ACOTAR 6 literally I don't remember anything that's

416
00:31:51,964 --> 00:31:57,964
gonna happen but i know that i am teen elucian thank you and good night no literally yeah i

417
00:31:57,964 --> 00:32:04,004
there's a lot there's a lot to be said for fourth wing or just reading series that are unfinished

418
00:32:04,004 --> 00:32:10,004
because i want to say that she's gonna quote unquote like redeem herself in the fourth book

419
00:32:10,004 --> 00:32:15,844
because i can understand where the third book just had a few different plot holes that didn't

420
00:32:15,844 --> 00:32:20,904
exactly make sense and that left on a cliffhanger and then stuff happened in it that you didn't

421
00:32:20,904 --> 00:32:27,904
think that would happen and then like it's just one of those too much stuff happened okay too much

422
00:32:27,904 --> 00:32:33,644
stuff happened too many things have not been explained what's going on did you write it that

423
00:32:33,644 --> 00:32:37,764
way to be confusing and you didn't think about it or did you write it that way because there's a

424
00:32:37,764 --> 00:32:42,044
fourth book that's going to explain it i think it's because there's going to be a fourth book

425
00:32:42,044 --> 00:32:50,444
to explain it yeah but people haven't liked how it went about that plot line of the third book

426
00:32:50,444 --> 00:32:56,044
yeah so i can understand that uh-huh and i don't necessarily disagree but

427
00:32:56,044 --> 00:33:06,264
i honestly save save yourself uh heartbreak trauma and agony of waiting just wait for the

428
00:33:06,264 --> 00:33:11,544
fourth book to come out honestly and then start reading it all right because it is one of those

429
00:33:11,544 --> 00:33:16,964
like i put it up next to a quarter thorns roses okay like and my cat is named after pharaoh like

430
00:33:16,964 --> 00:33:17,704
You know this.

431
00:33:17,784 --> 00:33:18,124
I do.

432
00:33:18,404 --> 00:33:19,344
The Curse Breaker.

433
00:33:19,604 --> 00:33:22,883
It is one of my favorite series.

434
00:33:23,064 --> 00:33:23,484
Wow.

435
00:33:23,644 --> 00:33:23,864
Okay.

436
00:33:24,184 --> 00:33:28,564
So that's interesting to hear because one of my cousins texted me, who's a big reader,

437
00:33:28,844 --> 00:33:31,844
and she had the polar opposite response about Fourth Wing.

438
00:33:32,064 --> 00:33:33,284
She hated it.

439
00:33:33,383 --> 00:33:34,764
She was like, Ainsley, it's so bad.

440
00:33:34,824 --> 00:33:36,364
I don't remember what we were talking about.

441
00:33:36,364 --> 00:33:42,904
I was telling her that I had read a popular book that everybody was overhyping,

442
00:33:43,024 --> 00:33:45,224
and I thought it was going to be great, and then I really hated it.

443
00:33:45,304 --> 00:33:46,944
I don't remember what book I was talking about.

444
00:33:46,964 --> 00:33:49,084
But she was like, oh, are you talking about Fourth Wing?

445
00:33:49,164 --> 00:33:51,484
And I was like, no, I have not read Fourth Wing.

446
00:33:51,804 --> 00:33:54,084
And she very much did not like it.

447
00:33:54,404 --> 00:33:55,844
So what is the truth, Ellen?

448
00:33:56,264 --> 00:33:56,684
I don't know.

449
00:33:57,064 --> 00:34:00,784
I don't know if she just read the first one or she read the whole series.

450
00:34:01,724 --> 00:34:10,024
Fourth Wing, and some people might come at me for this, I think is kind of written a lot like The Selection.

451
00:34:11,264 --> 00:34:13,064
Which is one of my favorite books.

452
00:34:13,424 --> 00:34:16,644
I reread that series earlier this year.

453
00:34:16,644 --> 00:34:18,904
because it's one of just my most favorite.

454
00:34:19,284 --> 00:34:21,704
Like it's one of the series that got me into reading.

455
00:34:21,844 --> 00:34:23,664
It just holds so much nostalgia for me.

456
00:34:23,744 --> 00:34:25,364
That was like the book series that me

457
00:34:25,364 --> 00:34:27,324
and all three of my girlfriends in middle school,

458
00:34:27,424 --> 00:34:28,144
we all loved it.

459
00:34:28,184 --> 00:34:29,864
We were all always talking about it.

460
00:34:30,204 --> 00:34:30,684
So, okay.

461
00:34:30,724 --> 00:34:32,424
I was waiting for those books to come out.

462
00:34:32,564 --> 00:34:34,024
Like I remember waiting for those.

463
00:34:35,684 --> 00:34:37,324
Have you read the Matched series?

464
00:34:37,664 --> 00:34:37,883
No.

465
00:34:38,104 --> 00:34:39,284
I feel like we've talked about this before.

466
00:34:39,344 --> 00:34:40,704
You might've talked about this, but it's okay.

467
00:34:40,784 --> 00:34:41,784
I'm down to talk about it again.

468
00:34:41,984 --> 00:34:43,464
I feel like you would really like that series.

469
00:34:43,544 --> 00:34:43,764
Okay.

470
00:34:44,124 --> 00:34:45,484
It's kind of a similar premise.

471
00:34:45,484 --> 00:34:49,444
like matched married type thing.

472
00:34:50,944 --> 00:34:52,724
For those of you who don't know,

473
00:34:53,044 --> 00:34:55,004
the selection is 35 girls.

474
00:34:55,184 --> 00:34:56,104
It's the Royal bachelor,

475
00:34:56,424 --> 00:35:01,344
35 girls competing for the heart of the crown prince of Ailea,

476
00:35:01,964 --> 00:35:03,804
who is just to this day,

477
00:35:04,164 --> 00:35:17,175
my book boyfriend He set the bar Max and Calyx Shreve where you at yeah no definitely for sure there yeah i loved those books there there are some of like i could probably recite some of those

478
00:35:17,175 --> 00:35:21,655
chapters word for word break my heart break it a thousand times if you like it was only ever

479
00:35:21,655 --> 00:35:28,135
yours to break anyways as he's laying dying under the table i tell you i ride for this series

480
00:35:28,135 --> 00:35:35,535
hardcore oh yeah so matched is kind of similar it's still in like that dystopian set in the future

481
00:35:35,535 --> 00:35:46,335
vibe um except it's a little bit more like hunger games ish okay kind of there yeah um but it's

482
00:35:46,335 --> 00:35:52,075
really good it's kind of how america it's essentially how america would be if china

483
00:35:52,075 --> 00:35:57,755
turned it over or china took over and kind of created the capital essentially oh and then how

484
00:35:57,755 --> 00:36:04,015
people would live in that capital and how the new world would kind of go and like you're matched to

485
00:36:04,015 --> 00:36:13,416
your biological best match to have children okay cool and in this book she's accidentally like

486
00:36:13,416 --> 00:36:21,055
quote-unquote matched with two people we love we love why i love triangle so so she's matched with

487
00:36:21,055 --> 00:36:27,155
two people and doesn't know which one is the correct match and so it's kind of about like

488
00:36:27,155 --> 00:36:33,755
the system and that like dismantlement a little bit yeah um super cool really good i read it around

489
00:36:33,755 --> 00:36:39,376
the same time as the selection um trying to think of other ones that are kind of in that realm

490
00:36:39,376 --> 00:36:47,295
spark that series never read that one um still like i was in my like sci-fi romance yeah dystopian

491
00:36:47,295 --> 00:36:52,275
dystopian all of it loved the hunger games divergent like that kind of realm of thing yeah

492
00:36:52,275 --> 00:37:00,275
uh spark like that one is a little bit more like they're on spaceships vibe okay essentially like

493
00:37:00,275 --> 00:37:04,696
um have you heard of the 100 or i was just thinking that yeah so it's kind of like that show

494
00:37:04,696 --> 00:37:10,095
where they sent people up into these two ships that are going to essentially an earth equivalent

495
00:37:10,095 --> 00:37:17,135
okay um and after the the world has just been probably destroyed after the world has been

496
00:37:17,135 --> 00:37:23,835
destroyed okay these are the two ships that are saving humanity okay and it's about those ships

497
00:37:23,835 --> 00:37:30,456
how it works the different like humanity elements of it and like how do we keep on having babies

498
00:37:30,456 --> 00:37:36,795
whoa you're the first baby that hasn't seen earth that was born here that's crazy like kind of that

499
00:37:36,795 --> 00:37:45,175
type of thing um really cool yeah on that note i this summer for me this is gonna sound so weird

500
00:37:45,175 --> 00:37:49,615
this was the summer of the handmaid's tale for me oh my gosh I watched this show for the first time

501
00:37:49,615 --> 00:37:54,315
and I just finished it yet I finished reading the book um last week for the first time I borrowed it

502
00:37:54,315 --> 00:38:02,715
from my aunt who I saw um when I we were going um through DC a couple weeks ago and first of all

503
00:38:02,715 --> 00:38:10,916
that book is not talking about like all the the crazy story plots it is such a good book yeah it

504
00:38:10,916 --> 00:38:18,515
is have you read the book yes I had to read it for school um but I read it yeah um and there's

505
00:38:18,515 --> 00:38:23,295
there there's a series to it right like there's a few of them yeah so one of the things that I

506
00:38:23,295 --> 00:38:28,055
think is super interesting I haven't read the second one yet so the first book came out in the

507
00:38:28,055 --> 00:38:33,335
80s and then the second book the testaments I think it's called came out in 2019 so like 30

508
00:38:33,335 --> 00:38:41,115
years later and it's from I think it's from um not from the main character in um the book's

509
00:38:41,115 --> 00:38:45,396
perspective um it's from one of the aunt's perspective and then another girl who grew up in

510
00:38:45,396 --> 00:38:53,035
Gileadian society I thought the book was so interesting I really think it's cool how we

511
00:38:53,035 --> 00:38:57,856
you don't for sure know what her name her actual name is in the book that's something that the show

512
00:38:57,856 --> 00:39:02,356
differs a little bit they kind of are like okay this these are one of the names that are kind of

513
00:39:02,356 --> 00:39:07,775
given to you in that first chapter this is what we're going to go by um that I thought was really

514
00:39:07,775 --> 00:39:12,715
interesting I thought that it was really interesting um I have the book the copy that I

515
00:39:12,715 --> 00:39:17,975
borrowed from my aunt um is I think it's one of like the first published copies like it's a super

516
00:39:17,975 --> 00:39:23,215
old copy like the pages are yellowed and so it has this Q&A with um Margaret Atwood at the end of it

517
00:39:23,215 --> 00:39:29,416
and she said she wrote it in a way that purposefully put the reader in the dark because it wouldn't be

518
00:39:29,416 --> 00:39:36,175
fair that the reader knew what was going on in Gilead if the main character didn't know because

519
00:39:36,175 --> 00:39:42,075
part of the terror is that you don't know what the system is you don't know what's going on you see

520
00:39:42,075 --> 00:39:48,376
what's going on on the outside and you see how unfair and unjust it is and also right now is an

521
00:39:48,376 --> 00:39:54,515
interesting time to read that book for the first time for a lot of different reasons um and also

522
00:39:54,515 --> 00:39:56,555
So I thought the end part was so cool.

523
00:39:56,695 --> 00:40:05,015
The mini bonus chapter at the end where it's like a society 150 years in the future and they are looking back on.

524
00:40:05,075 --> 00:40:05,675
Do you remember that?

525
00:40:05,815 --> 00:40:06,896
No, I didn't read that.

526
00:40:06,896 --> 00:40:07,976
So I don't know.

527
00:40:08,035 --> 00:40:12,055
Maybe it was just in this first copy or one of the first published copies.

528
00:40:12,615 --> 00:40:23,135
But at the end of it, there is this chapter given from the perspective of a college professor who is giving a lecture on Gileadian society.

529
00:40:23,135 --> 00:40:26,995
and they are talking about this book, this text that they have found called The Handmaid's Tale.

530
00:40:26,995 --> 00:40:34,135
And they're talking about how like the all the insight that this book gives them into the society.

531
00:40:34,135 --> 00:40:40,155
And it was just so interesting. It's so cool. As a work of literature, that's a good writer.

532
00:40:40,456 --> 00:40:44,416
That's such a good writer. Just as a work of literature. Oh, my gosh, it's incredible.

533
00:40:44,655 --> 00:40:52,476
But the story points in and of themselves are terrifying because when she wrote it originally, it was satire.

534
00:40:52,476 --> 00:40:58,495
it was supposed to be this kind of like oh this could never happen so extreme so far in the future

535
00:40:58,495 --> 00:41:03,856
this could never happen and look at where we are there are um have you seen the videos in the past

536
00:41:03,856 --> 00:41:09,535
couple of months popping up of like um people dressing up in handmaid's tale garb following

537
00:41:09,535 --> 00:41:17,515
around conservative lawmakers being like hey this is the future you're making it's wild it is so crazy

538
00:41:22,476 --> 00:41:44,235
The black sword swings through the night

539
00:41:44,235 --> 00:41:45,856
Search for you

540
00:41:45,856 --> 00:41:50,795
Just to be no better to do

541
00:41:50,795 --> 00:41:56,376
Don't lie for me

542
00:41:56,376 --> 00:42:04,015
You drove me to the field that day

543
00:42:04,015 --> 00:42:06,976
The smell of oil in my glove

544
00:42:06,976 --> 00:42:09,675
Told me I couldn't

545
00:42:09,675 --> 00:42:13,396
You watched the world

546
00:42:13,396 --> 00:42:17,495
It grew and grew

547
00:42:17,495 --> 00:42:19,476
And grew

548
00:42:19,476 --> 00:42:24,476
In love of the only answer

549
00:42:24,476 --> 00:42:30,476
In love an only night's stone

550
00:42:32,476 --> 00:42:38,476
Shoot, I'll wait for a call to end

551
00:42:38,476 --> 00:42:42,476
I'll wait for a light to descend

552
00:42:42,476 --> 00:42:48,476
Please come true

553
00:42:49,476 --> 00:42:53,755
All is well, it ends well

554
00:42:53,755 --> 00:42:59,055
And how does it end?

555
00:42:59,956 --> 00:43:04,335
All is well, it ends well

556
00:43:04,335 --> 00:43:09,155
So don't lose your life

557
00:43:09,155 --> 00:43:13,476
All is well, it ends well

558
00:43:13,476 --> 00:43:18,575
And how will it end?

559
00:43:19,476 --> 00:43:25,876
All is well, all is well

560
00:43:25,876 --> 00:43:29,876
Just don't lose your heart

561
00:43:29,876 --> 00:43:50,715
Don't kiss the mouth or the river

562
00:43:50,715 --> 00:43:54,495
I'm full of bounty that comes

563
00:43:54,495 --> 00:43:57,055
I'll know where to find you

564
00:43:57,055 --> 00:44:04,055
Hold me like you used to

565
00:44:04,055 --> 00:44:12,055
I'm a cascade of ideas we dance ceaselessly

566
00:44:13,396 --> 00:44:17,055
No progress couldn't kill you

567
00:44:17,055 --> 00:44:23,055
Into the night without you

568
00:44:27,055 --> 00:44:32,055
In love the only answer

569
00:44:32,055 --> 00:44:38,055
In love the lonely nightstone

570
00:44:40,055 --> 00:44:46,055
Shoot, I'll wait for a cough to end

571
00:44:46,055 --> 00:44:50,055
I'll wait for a light to descend

572
00:44:50,055 --> 00:44:56,315
And please come true

573
00:44:56,315 --> 00:45:01,195
All this world, it ends well

574
00:45:01,195 --> 00:45:06,416
And how does it end?

575
00:45:07,315 --> 00:45:12,055
All this world, it ends well

576
00:45:12,055 --> 00:45:16,495
Stop losing your mind

577
00:45:16,495 --> 00:45:20,795
All is well, it ends well

578
00:45:20,795 --> 00:45:25,995
All is well, not well, it ends

579
00:45:25,995 --> 00:45:31,215
All is well, it ends

580
00:45:31,215 --> 00:45:36,335
Just don't lose your love

581
00:45:46,495 --> 00:46:00,615
I'm a casket of ideas we dance ceaselessly

582
00:46:00,615 --> 00:46:04,456
And I know where to find you

583
00:46:16,495 --> 00:46:24,476
so that's my rant it's no no no it's totally crazy i mean because it's more than a cautionary

584
00:46:24,476 --> 00:46:30,515
tale at this point it's like this is we already have the makings of this and a couple years in

585
00:46:30,515 --> 00:46:36,456
the future we could have something very similar to this i okay as a person who lives by their self

586
00:46:36,456 --> 00:46:45,315
uses the tv as background noise yeah i i eat through shows like i can go through shows so fast

587
00:46:45,315 --> 00:46:52,356
Not because I'm like truly watching it, but because I'm cleaning, I'm cooking, I'm...

588
00:46:52,447 --> 00:46:59,207
scheduling things but being in a place by yourself I want some noise yeah totally and sometimes like

589
00:46:59,207 --> 00:47:04,007
music like I want something to watch as well that I can kind of look up and do something so I'll put

590
00:47:04,007 --> 00:47:12,027
on a podcast or whatever all of that's to say I eat through shows like I watch shows like it's

591
00:47:12,027 --> 00:47:16,787
nobody's business I forget shows that I've watched yeah because of how many shows I watch

592
00:47:16,787 --> 00:47:18,587
or have I watched

593
00:47:18,587 --> 00:47:20,627
The Handmaid's Tale

594
00:47:20,627 --> 00:47:23,147
I started in

595
00:47:23,147 --> 00:47:25,227
October

596
00:47:25,227 --> 00:47:26,667
of last year, November

597
00:47:26,667 --> 00:47:28,827
of last year and

598
00:47:28,827 --> 00:47:31,187
I was watching it during the election

599
00:47:31,187 --> 00:47:33,207
cycle. That was freaky.

600
00:47:33,327 --> 00:47:34,787
That was terrifying.

601
00:47:35,467 --> 00:47:37,047
Never would recommend that.

602
00:47:38,747 --> 00:47:41,127
But I still haven't finished it.

603
00:47:41,347 --> 00:47:42,747
I'm in the last season because

604
00:47:42,747 --> 00:47:45,087
it's a show that I definitely want to make

605
00:47:45,087 --> 00:47:52,807
time to actually like watch but it's it's a hard show it's a hard show like you I take breaks like

606
00:47:52,807 --> 00:47:57,787
I will watch one or two episodes and then I'll come back to it like a week later yeah like and

607
00:47:57,787 --> 00:48:05,067
kind of take it in chunks because they're at one point like the early seasons you could watch like

608
00:48:05,067 --> 00:48:13,687
the first season kind of back to back not like casually but it's more of a it's not as heavy and

609
00:48:13,687 --> 00:48:19,947
dense like because towards the end of it you're like you everything is culminating and you know

610
00:48:19,947 --> 00:48:27,067
everything and it's like oh like this is just heavy yeah but you it's it's like a need to watch

611
00:48:27,067 --> 00:48:32,887
like yeah I don't want to watch it this is like but I need to finish it my like duty as a woman

612
00:48:32,887 --> 00:48:37,727
today yeah watch this and the show is hard for a couple of different reasons because and the show

613
00:48:37,727 --> 00:48:45,687
was very well done like yeah I would say that as a work of fiction and as a work of art I would say

614
00:48:45,687 --> 00:48:50,367
it's probably one of my favorite shows and I understand what it means to say that because it's

615
00:48:50,367 --> 00:48:55,507
a really hard subject matter and I think for a lot of women for a lot of reasons it hits really

616
00:48:55,507 --> 00:49:01,747
close to home for me it hits really close to home but the show is hard because it it some scenes in

617
00:49:01,747 --> 00:49:06,507
the book are kind of a fade to black where it implies what happens the show like takes you into

618
00:49:06,507 --> 00:49:10,927
those hard moments and also the thing that I thought is interesting about the show the book

619
00:49:10,927 --> 00:49:17,507
really only covers the first season like there is so much that is embellished upon yeah which I think

620
00:49:17,507 --> 00:49:21,407
is cool and I think they did a really great job with it and I think Margaret Atwood was a producer

621
00:49:21,407 --> 00:49:27,487
on the show for most of it so which I think is indicative of she was down with the things that

622
00:49:27,487 --> 00:49:34,047
they were right kind of like she she was there to say yes this isn't within the realm yeah of what

623
00:49:34,047 --> 00:49:44,447
would actually be happening which is cool i mean all in all like i think it's interesting how

624
00:49:44,447 --> 00:49:54,427
media has portrayed like i'll be watching certain shows now i can tell if it was made in the early

625
00:49:54,427 --> 00:50:04,207
2020s or if it was made in the 2018 2019 yeah because half of the shit that's said and shows

626
00:50:04,207 --> 00:50:11,127
about like the different jokes about women dating multiple men or the different jokes about

627
00:50:11,127 --> 00:50:19,167
sexualizing people or kind of like the funny jokes about immigrants or like that type of

628
00:50:19,167 --> 00:50:24,207
funny jokes meaning like immigrants we get that shit done you know what i mean

629
00:50:24,207 --> 00:50:24,927
Yeah, from Hamilton.

630
00:50:25,227 --> 00:50:25,827
From Hamilton.

631
00:50:26,047 --> 00:50:31,747
Like, that type of, like, there was just this lightness to comedy.

632
00:50:31,947 --> 00:50:32,167
Yeah.

633
00:50:32,607 --> 00:50:38,387
And now people are tiptoeing around what they can and can't say to the nth degree.

634
00:50:38,747 --> 00:50:46,407
And in shows, like, I mean, there was stuff talking about, like, the president and, oh, yeah, fuck that man, blah, blah, blah.

635
00:50:46,407 --> 00:50:53,247
Could you imagine if somebody released a show right now that had, oh, yeah, and fuck the president.

636
00:50:54,047 --> 00:50:56,167
Oh, they'd be put on the watch list.

637
00:50:56,327 --> 00:50:56,947
Oh, my God.

638
00:50:57,267 --> 00:51:00,527
They would be that show would be canceled or like something something to that effect.

639
00:51:00,647 --> 00:51:02,127
Look at what just happened to Stephen Colbert.

640
00:51:02,427 --> 00:51:02,647
Yeah.

641
00:51:02,847 --> 00:51:03,027
Yeah.

642
00:51:03,127 --> 00:51:05,147
Like it would it would be known.

643
00:51:05,347 --> 00:51:05,507
Yeah.

644
00:51:05,507 --> 00:51:13,967
so it's crazy that we now live in a day and age that you and i can look at the most recent past

645
00:51:13,967 --> 00:51:21,027
and see insane differences and like shit that would not fly today right for many many reasons

646
00:51:21,027 --> 00:51:24,707
well and i mean there's a pendulum yeah right so

647
00:51:24,707 --> 00:51:32,587
as soon as we start to swing more woke then we will start to swing more conservative and

648
00:51:32,587 --> 00:51:39,247
you see that swing because now it's starting to be a little bit more acceptable to make

649
00:51:39,247 --> 00:51:45,707
sexualized jokes about women it's a little bit more acceptable to say the r word it's a little

650
00:51:45,707 --> 00:51:52,547
bit more acceptable to say the f word it's a little bit more acceptable to kind of poke fun

651
00:51:52,547 --> 00:52:00,227
at certain things now socially yeah that's terrifying guys oh my god is going on especially

652
00:52:00,227 --> 00:52:01,327
Only when we're waking up.

653
00:52:01,427 --> 00:52:02,507
Mayday, mayday, mayday, mayday.

654
00:52:02,507 --> 00:52:07,107
Mayday, which is part of the thing in Handmaid's Tale.

655
00:52:07,307 --> 00:52:11,967
That's like mayday is their word for their resistance that's going on.

656
00:52:12,267 --> 00:52:24,387
And one of the things that I thought was interesting when I read the book in the show, it's like, okay, mayday is just the name of the underground rebellion operation that's working to get people out of Gilead, yada, yada, yada.

657
00:52:24,867 --> 00:52:28,527
Mayday as in like the military term or mayday as in first of May.

658
00:52:28,527 --> 00:52:35,787
In the book, I thought it was interesting that they said, oh, it actually derives from the French translation of help me, which is Mayday.

659
00:52:36,207 --> 00:52:39,967
And as somebody who's not to be, but I'm learning French on Duolingo.

660
00:52:40,267 --> 00:52:44,127
And I just hit my two year streak, which just and I don't mean to be mansplaining.

661
00:52:44,567 --> 00:52:54,627
But if you put an M at the beginning of A day, which is just means literally means help me, which I thought was really cool and a nice touch.

662
00:52:54,627 --> 00:53:06,187
But yeah, absolutely terrifying, especially when the headline that at least I woke up to this morning is that the president is revoking secret service for the former vice president, Kamala Harris, which is.

663
00:53:07,947 --> 00:53:11,527
What? He's revoking her protection.

664
00:53:12,427 --> 00:53:14,707
Did you see that? No, I didn't see that.

665
00:53:14,707 --> 00:53:24,567
It's like in especially when at the end of his presidency, Joe Biden was like considering the the circumstances around.

666
00:53:25,647 --> 00:53:40,747
Kamala Harris's election run and her losing the election, we should up her security because of the time that we live in and the conversation that we were just having about how it's more socially acceptable to be a little bit like pushy with the things that we're talking about and the things that we're joking about.

667
00:53:40,747 --> 00:53:45,707
And so Joe Biden knew that she would need more protection just because of who she is.

668
00:53:45,907 --> 00:53:55,267
And then the president today is like, no, I'm taking away her protection, her detail, like who are looking out for active threats, who are providing her with 24 seven protection.

669
00:53:56,227 --> 00:54:05,227
It's evil. It's so evil. And there are so many other things that have happened just in the political landscape since you and I have talked that are like is a whole other thing we could get into.

670
00:54:05,227 --> 00:54:06,647
there's

671
00:54:06,647 --> 00:54:09,827
when I see headlines like that

672
00:54:09,827 --> 00:54:11,807
I mean

673
00:54:11,807 --> 00:54:13,807
the first jump is oh my god

674
00:54:13,807 --> 00:54:14,407
fuck you

675
00:54:14,407 --> 00:54:17,847
the second

676
00:54:17,847 --> 00:54:18,927
jump is

677
00:54:18,927 --> 00:54:21,647
is this just

678
00:54:21,647 --> 00:54:22,727
another

679
00:54:22,727 --> 00:54:25,647
taco taxation

680
00:54:25,647 --> 00:54:26,967
meaning

681
00:54:26,967 --> 00:54:29,807
taco as in when he

682
00:54:29,807 --> 00:54:31,747
would tank the stocks

683
00:54:31,747 --> 00:54:33,867
up and down because he would say

684
00:54:33,867 --> 00:54:39,187
oh we're gonna put tariffs on this blah blah blah and then tank the stock so that him and his little

685
00:54:39,187 --> 00:54:45,887
crannies could go in and buy it like that to me whenever i see a headline like that i'm like is

686
00:54:45,887 --> 00:54:51,447
this just another look at me look at me look at me look at me look at me so that you don't look

687
00:54:51,447 --> 00:54:59,167
over here yeah i'm sure like to distract from all of the ice raids that have continued to happen

688
00:54:59,167 --> 00:55:02,827
from all of the underground, like how somebody,

689
00:55:03,047 --> 00:55:05,907
one of the states asked the Supreme Court for gay marriage to be revoked.

690
00:55:06,227 --> 00:55:06,667
What?

691
00:55:07,907 --> 00:55:08,427
Terrifying.

692
00:55:08,627 --> 00:55:10,107
So I knew that that was going to happen.

693
00:55:10,207 --> 00:55:10,607
Oh, of course.

694
00:55:10,627 --> 00:55:12,967
As soon as Roe got overturned.

695
00:55:12,987 --> 00:55:13,727
Got overturned.

696
00:55:13,747 --> 00:55:13,907
Yeah.

697
00:55:13,907 --> 00:55:18,927
Because for those that don't know, Roe was a precedent law.

698
00:55:19,527 --> 00:55:22,647
Or a precedent, not president, but you know what I mean.

699
00:55:22,647 --> 00:55:30,407
meaning that Roe was the law that overfell V. Hodges,

700
00:55:31,527 --> 00:55:37,727
that I'm blanking, school versus Brown of education,

701
00:55:37,887 --> 00:55:44,247
like those type of cases were all based off of Roe.

702
00:55:44,247 --> 00:55:47,727
Now, when you get rid of Roe,

703
00:55:48,047 --> 00:55:52,507
the precedent that's keeping all of these little things in place,

704
00:55:52,647 --> 00:55:59,687
as soon as you get rid of that one it's a free-for-all because then any lawyer in america

705
00:55:59,687 --> 00:56:07,047
can go in and say hey so the precedent for this case law no longer exists i would like to take

706
00:56:07,047 --> 00:56:13,547
this to our court like i know that i'm not saying this correctly but i would like to take this to

707
00:56:13,547 --> 00:56:17,947
somebody to get this overturned as well because now the precedent is gone oh and that's basically

708
00:56:17,947 --> 00:56:22,387
what the woman who asked the supreme court to overturn gay marriage said she was like i just

709
00:56:22,387 --> 00:56:29,407
don't want this to happen it's right oh my god like um gay marriage um and the one that i was

710
00:56:29,407 --> 00:56:36,147
blanking on was is overfell v hodges that's gay marriage or is overfell v hodges interracial

711
00:56:36,147 --> 00:56:41,827
marriage because i know that both are being challenged right now let's look um

712
00:56:41,827 --> 00:56:49,087
oh v hodges is nope same-sex couples a landmark decision of the united states supreme court

713
00:56:49,087 --> 00:56:52,567
which ruled that the fundamental right to marry is guaranteed to same-sex couples.

714
00:56:53,047 --> 00:57:01,087
So the same-sex couples over Pell-Ve Hodges and interracial marriage, which was...

715
00:57:01,087 --> 00:57:03,647
I'm blanking on that case.

716
00:57:04,227 --> 00:57:08,127
But both of those were under the precedent of Roe.

717
00:57:08,267 --> 00:57:08,447
Yeah.

718
00:57:09,067 --> 00:57:10,087
So...

719
00:57:11,207 --> 00:57:13,887
Hey, Mr. J.D. Vance.

720
00:57:13,887 --> 00:57:23,107
you and your wife are no longer legally married like the hypocrisy of some of these people

721
00:57:23,107 --> 00:57:29,987
and with jd vance and his wife i look at them and i'm like she's she is a smart woman what is going

722
00:57:29,987 --> 00:57:39,027
on here what the actual hell is going on here what yeah that's what that's all i can say literally

723
00:57:39,027 --> 00:57:48,827
so oh and also uh um how trump is like all about immigrants and he married an immigrant he married

724
00:57:48,827 --> 00:57:59,287
multiple immigrants yeah so and you oh just this is yeah i want to say like we should laugh but

725
00:57:59,287 --> 00:58:04,407
because if we don't we should cry but also like we are two privileged white girls at like who are

726
00:58:04,407 --> 00:58:08,707
kind of just dissecting this whole thing like this is real shit that's happening to real people and

727
00:58:08,707 --> 00:58:15,087
it's heartbreaking and it's terrifying and we have a platform and we should use it and so this

728
00:58:15,087 --> 00:58:25,767
is just awful and i think we both took a break from our normal day-to-day programming yeah and

729
00:58:25,767 --> 00:58:45,939
came back and went what did i miss and we met with oh shit we start with light let catch up on travel and now we land at the uh the landscape of american politics which is a shit show right now well and i think for both of us like this

730
00:58:45,939 --> 00:58:52,499
podcast especially too like is about talking about the new things that are going on in bitcoin as well

731
00:58:52,499 --> 00:58:57,759
as the new things that are going on in the music world as well as books we're reading yeah and this

732
00:58:57,759 --> 00:59:03,279
is kind of a hodgepodge of all things put together yeah and in the first season we really focused on

733
00:59:03,279 --> 00:59:10,719
music and bitcoin and all of the new things that are happening within fountain and

734
00:59:10,719 --> 00:59:15,439
toonster and nostor and all those different things and i think on the second season

735
00:59:15,439 --> 00:59:19,819
we're going to be focusing in on that as well but i think we're also going to be talking a little

736
00:59:19,819 --> 00:59:27,119
bit more about ourselves yeah i think so too and gotta branch out yeah branching out and also

737
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:34,799
let us know your feedback like yeah absolutely if you really like the yapping about bitcoin and you

738
00:59:34,799 --> 00:59:42,879
don't want to know my middle name okay cool let me know that like okay cool yeah absolutely um

739
00:59:42,879 --> 00:59:47,639
but one of the things I guess to kind of bring it back to music which is like the way that we

740
00:59:47,639 --> 00:59:52,679
met each other and we have originally connected that I wrote this down a couple months ago to

741
00:59:52,679 --> 00:59:57,239
talk about this because it happened I think in June when both of us were in the midst of traveling

742
00:59:57,239 --> 01:00:00,959
and because it goes hand in hand with what we were just talking about about the political

743
01:00:00,959 --> 01:00:08,359
landscape can we talk about the Hamilton Tony's performance yes so I think the biggest thing to

744
01:00:08,359 --> 01:00:14,459
start with is it was the 10-year anniversary performance but the entire cast was dressed in

745
01:00:14,459 --> 01:00:22,439
black except for the king the king what do you think let's let's use our thinking brains and

746
01:00:22,439 --> 01:00:25,459
And let's just brainstorm about what we think that is meant to symbolize.

747
01:00:25,539 --> 01:00:31,019
Because one thing about Lin-Manuel Miranda is he is on that Easter egg level.

748
01:00:31,479 --> 01:00:33,499
We are going to do immense symbolism.

749
01:00:34,499 --> 01:00:37,059
That was entirely intentional.

750
01:00:37,719 --> 01:00:38,579
Entirely intentional.

751
01:00:38,819 --> 01:00:42,639
And I think that is using your platform for good.

752
01:00:42,759 --> 01:00:45,499
I think that is using art to really, really say something.

753
01:00:45,799 --> 01:00:48,119
And I thought it was incredible.

754
01:00:48,119 --> 01:00:51,639
And especially because Hamilton is just so nostalgic for me.

755
01:00:51,639 --> 01:00:57,159
just watching that whole thing it was so the entire performance was so good and I like started

756
01:00:57,159 --> 01:01:02,739
crying when the Skylar sisters walked on stage I was like and what I would say to that is I think

757
01:01:02,739 --> 01:01:07,819
it got received the same way that Kendrick's halftime show got received yeah very mixed reviews

758
01:01:07,819 --> 01:01:15,759
like I think it's interesting because when you hear the discourse of that like oh it was great

759
01:01:15,759 --> 01:01:20,559
no it was shitty like it's so subjective like art is very subjective yeah absolutely that way

760
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:23,239
but I think it's

761
01:01:23,239 --> 01:01:26,079
interesting of like who sees it

762
01:01:26,079 --> 01:01:27,919
who doesn't why what

763
01:01:27,919 --> 01:01:28,839
how did you get there

764
01:01:28,839 --> 01:01:29,759
and

765
01:01:29,759 --> 01:01:34,179
what I've seen it interpreted

766
01:01:34,179 --> 01:01:35,999
as is like the cast

767
01:01:35,999 --> 01:01:38,219
is dressed in all black because it's the funeral

768
01:01:38,219 --> 01:01:40,359
for democracy yeah we're absolutely

769
01:01:40,359 --> 01:01:42,019
mourning and the king

770
01:01:42,019 --> 01:01:44,079
is dressed in a red

771
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:46,119
blazer because he is ruling

772
01:01:46,119 --> 01:01:48,279
and current America

773
01:01:48,279 --> 01:01:49,059
the ruling

774
01:01:49,059 --> 01:01:57,099
class the president is a Republican historically red so I think it could also be symbolism for how

775
01:01:57,099 --> 01:02:01,459
we were just saying a minute ago the current president's strategy is to do this all this look

776
01:02:01,459 --> 01:02:06,139
at me look at me look at me that bright red is going to draw your attention that's kind of to

777
01:02:06,139 --> 01:02:11,779
take away from all of this other stuff that's going on so then when quote the king walks on

778
01:02:11,779 --> 01:02:17,439
stage that's the only thing we're looking at to distract from all of this other good and bad stuff

779
01:02:17,439 --> 01:02:23,139
that's happening and the other little piece that i saw in there the king didn't say any words

780
01:02:23,139 --> 01:02:31,999
he was babbling nonsense babbling nonsense yeah the king that was babbling nonsense

781
01:02:31,999 --> 01:02:38,979
like oh yeah i think that's the that's the title of this episode babbling nonsense

782
01:02:38,979 --> 01:02:41,939
Like there's definitely.

783
01:02:43,319 --> 01:02:43,759
Yeah.

784
01:02:43,879 --> 01:02:46,039
Like you can look at it and see that.

785
01:02:46,119 --> 01:02:46,599
And I don't,

786
01:02:46,719 --> 01:02:49,339
I don't know how somebody could look at that and be like,

787
01:02:50,059 --> 01:02:50,259
yeah,

788
01:02:50,259 --> 01:02:52,019
they were just all black because it was a performance.

789
01:02:52,199 --> 01:02:52,499
Cool.

790
01:02:52,779 --> 01:02:53,259
Then like,

791
01:02:53,319 --> 01:02:53,599
move on.

792
01:02:53,619 --> 01:02:54,539
They're going for the aesthetic.

793
01:02:54,779 --> 01:02:54,999
Right.

794
01:02:55,079 --> 01:02:55,319
Like,

795
01:02:55,439 --> 01:02:56,119
okay.

796
01:02:56,299 --> 01:02:56,719
Yeah.

797
01:02:57,219 --> 01:02:57,659
Um,

798
01:02:59,019 --> 01:03:02,999
kind of speaking to the revolution won't be televised.

799
01:03:03,239 --> 01:03:03,419
Yeah.

800
01:03:03,919 --> 01:03:04,719
You picked the right time,

801
01:03:04,759 --> 01:03:05,659
but the wrong guy.

802
01:03:06,099 --> 01:03:06,499
So.

803
01:03:06,499 --> 01:03:12,899
I think that certain people are going to keep on making these statements.

804
01:03:14,479 --> 01:03:20,699
And I think it'll be interesting to see where we go and how that all culminates.

805
01:03:20,939 --> 01:03:21,039
Yeah.

806
01:03:21,799 --> 01:03:26,239
I think it'll be interesting to like the Sydney Sweeney ad.

807
01:03:26,419 --> 01:03:26,859
Oh, yeah.

808
01:03:27,279 --> 01:03:28,879
How that went down.

809
01:03:29,299 --> 01:03:31,359
The Matt Rife ad.

810
01:03:31,459 --> 01:03:32,019
For Elf.

811
01:03:32,139 --> 01:03:33,019
How that went down.

812
01:03:33,019 --> 01:03:33,719
Oh, my God.

813
01:03:33,719 --> 01:03:36,999
Like so many things are kind of tied together.

814
01:03:37,239 --> 01:03:37,439
Yeah.

815
01:03:37,639 --> 01:03:39,439
The tides are changing.

816
01:03:39,539 --> 01:03:43,919
And I don't know if anybody really knows if it's for better or for worse right now.

817
01:03:44,259 --> 01:03:49,459
Because I think we can always say things like it's always darkest before the dawn.

818
01:03:49,919 --> 01:03:51,819
Things have to get worse before they get better.

819
01:03:52,039 --> 01:03:52,459
Calm before the storm.

820
01:03:52,539 --> 01:03:53,299
Calm before the storm.

821
01:03:54,239 --> 01:03:56,339
And so it's a matter of time.

822
01:03:56,339 --> 01:04:08,799
I mean, it's really cool to see how a lot of people are, a lot of politicians are not just bowing down and being like, okay, this is how it is.

823
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:15,619
Like how Gavin Newsom is doing that special election in California, which is like, yeah.

824
01:04:15,879 --> 01:04:16,959
Redistricting, yeah.

825
01:04:18,499 --> 01:04:20,159
That was very interesting.

826
01:04:21,159 --> 01:04:21,959
I've been seeing that.

827
01:04:21,959 --> 01:04:27,059
I mean, having all the different Texas politicians having to leave their state.

828
01:04:27,219 --> 01:04:27,419
Yeah.

829
01:04:28,259 --> 01:04:28,739
What?

830
01:04:29,639 --> 01:04:37,199
And I mean, also, like, we can't sit here and talk about, like, yesterday we had the first school shooting of the year, which is heartbreaking.

831
01:04:37,659 --> 01:04:40,219
And we are protecting the Second Amendment over second graders.

832
01:04:40,219 --> 01:04:48,119
I opened my phone yesterday morning to the photo of the woman running barefoot and just bawled.

833
01:04:48,359 --> 01:04:48,719
Honestly.

834
01:04:48,939 --> 01:04:49,079
Yeah.

835
01:04:49,079 --> 01:04:55,219
Like, just because you can, like, and I'm going to get emotional talking about it now.

836
01:04:55,359 --> 01:04:55,539
Yeah.

837
01:04:55,639 --> 01:05:00,999
Because you can see her literally taking her shoes off and running towards the school.

838
01:05:02,279 --> 01:05:05,079
Like, that photo is just so powerful.

839
01:05:05,359 --> 01:05:08,579
Like, I think we'll post it at some point, like, putting it up on this episode.

840
01:05:08,779 --> 01:05:08,979
Yeah.

841
01:05:09,599 --> 01:05:18,119
But if you haven't seen that photo of the mom running, like, taking her flats off and running to the school, you should see it.

842
01:05:18,119 --> 01:05:18,419
Yeah.

843
01:05:18,419 --> 01:05:24,079
it's one of those like it stays with you yeah i will forever remember that are you kidding me yeah

844
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:33,219
um yeah it definitely stays with you um it's not something that's going away

845
01:05:33,219 --> 01:05:41,699
it's not something that's going to change unless people in the position to change it do it yeah

846
01:05:41,699 --> 01:05:51,179
and nobody's gonna do it unless we vote for it yeah so using your voice is incredibly important

847
01:05:51,179 --> 01:05:58,939
and using your vote is as important or more yeah I mean when people say I didn't vote that was a

848
01:05:58,939 --> 01:06:03,359
vote for Trump when people said oh I voted for a third party candidate that was a vote for Trump

849
01:06:03,359 --> 01:06:10,399
and I think we are one of the things that I was thinking about a lot this summer when we had our

850
01:06:10,399 --> 01:06:16,359
our break, um, in the podcast where we weren't recording was just kind of a behind the scenes

851
01:06:16,359 --> 01:06:20,959
thing. Um, when Katie and I were recording the first, um, season of this, it was, I think,

852
01:06:20,999 --> 01:06:26,199
uncharted territory for both of us. There were a couple of episodes that we redid because of this

853
01:06:26,199 --> 01:06:32,059
entire conversation of how we were talking about earlier. Oh, people are taking things way too

854
01:06:32,059 --> 01:06:36,599
literally. I don't know if this is a, I know we were saying this and some people will understand

855
01:06:36,599 --> 01:06:41,119
this and other people won't like there are a couple of things in me just as a very anxious

856
01:06:41,119 --> 01:06:47,059
person I was like we need to redo some stuff and not even because I think we said anything wrong

857
01:06:47,059 --> 01:06:52,479
just because that's the time that we are living in and I was definitely really anxious of saying

858
01:06:52,479 --> 01:06:55,439
something wrong we talked about this in one of the episodes in the first season of like

859
01:06:55,439 --> 01:07:02,679
I am so afraid to say something wrong because cancel culture is a real thing but one of the

860
01:07:02,679 --> 01:07:07,899
things that I was thinking about a lot during this break was like we have a platform it might

861
01:07:07,899 --> 01:07:13,879
be really small and I have always been like I've grown up in this like Dolly Parton mindset of like

862
01:07:13,879 --> 01:07:22,979
remain diplomatic and like don't say anything but like we are not in a time for diplomacy

863
01:07:22,979 --> 01:07:28,299
diplomacy has been thrown out the window yeah and if you want to say the past couple of months if

864
01:07:28,299 --> 01:07:33,059
you want to say the past couple of years, if you want to say the past decade. And I think that I'm

865
01:07:33,059 --> 01:07:39,399
just at a point now where I'm like, fuck it. I want to talk about things that matter. And I want

866
01:07:39,399 --> 01:07:44,519
to draw a line in the sand on a lot of these things and just say, this is not okay. And because

867
01:07:44,519 --> 01:07:50,339
I've, I've been really disappointed in a lot of the, the people who I've looked up to throughout

868
01:07:50,339 --> 01:07:54,639
the course of my life. We're in a time right now where people aren't saying anything and people who

869
01:07:54,639 --> 01:08:00,899
have the most amount of power could turn the tide with a single Instagram post, a caption,

870
01:08:01,619 --> 01:08:06,239
or I mean, and also I think a lot of this, that's a nuanced conversation too about like,

871
01:08:06,539 --> 01:08:11,719
oh, well do people in, in positions of who are musicians or actors, do they owe us that?

872
01:08:12,619 --> 01:08:16,119
That's subjective. I think everybody's going to have a different opinion on that, but

873
01:08:16,119 --> 01:08:21,919
I think we have a platform. It might be small, but I'm like, you know what? This isn't okay.

874
01:08:21,919 --> 01:08:28,639
what is happening today and I don't really want to remain diplomatic I the people who know me

875
01:08:28,639 --> 01:08:34,399
know what I believe in and they know what I stand for and I think that the whole world should know

876
01:08:34,399 --> 01:08:40,539
that too yeah I mean I think it's very powerful to say this is what I believe in and this is why

877
01:08:40,539 --> 01:08:48,039
and I'm gonna stand by that yeah um I think right now especially

878
01:08:48,039 --> 01:08:54,539
is very important because birds of a feather flock together, right?

879
01:08:54,659 --> 01:08:54,899
Mm-hmm.

880
01:08:54,899 --> 01:09:00,419
So unless you make yourself identifiable, what are you going to do?

881
01:09:00,859 --> 01:09:00,979
Yeah.

882
01:09:01,239 --> 01:09:04,559
So also standing up for what's right.

883
01:09:04,839 --> 01:09:05,059
Yeah.

884
01:09:05,519 --> 01:09:08,259
Hey, Disney Channel princesses over here.

885
01:09:08,379 --> 01:09:08,999
Mm-hmm.

886
01:09:09,039 --> 01:09:11,039
Like, that's what we were raised on, guys.

887
01:09:11,079 --> 01:09:11,259
Yeah.

888
01:09:11,259 --> 01:09:12,259
What do you expect?

889
01:09:12,599 --> 01:09:12,779
Yeah.

890
01:09:12,859 --> 01:09:16,519
When you raise a generation on the Hunger Games.

891
01:09:16,519 --> 01:09:16,779
The Hunger Games.

892
01:09:17,179 --> 01:09:17,619
Divergent.

893
01:09:17,619 --> 01:09:24,319
standing against oppressive regimes and then we sit back and don't do or say or just raise any

894
01:09:24,319 --> 01:09:31,879
awareness about it part of me wonders if somebody knew and that's why this well not okay and that

895
01:09:31,879 --> 01:09:41,919
sounds a very conspiracy theorist but like somebody knew as in historians people 20 30 years ago could

896
01:09:41,919 --> 01:09:48,659
see how the tide was turning and where it was going and that influenced a current like state

897
01:09:48,659 --> 01:09:57,019
of events that these people then wrote in and then that's where we get all of this like coming out of

898
01:09:57,019 --> 01:10:03,259
the end of the world and blah blah blah and that's why we have this and then this generation reads all

899
01:10:03,259 --> 01:10:11,859
of that and then that's where we get this from like if you track it back there's a cause

900
01:10:11,859 --> 01:10:26,271
and an action and a reaction And I think it just interesting how all of this is happening And we were the generation that read all of that and that learned all of that

901
01:10:26,351 --> 01:10:26,531
Yeah.

902
01:10:26,851 --> 01:10:28,311
And then you're turning around and going,

903
01:10:28,711 --> 01:10:29,411
wait,

904
01:10:29,451 --> 01:10:30,091
why are you doing that?

905
01:10:31,351 --> 01:10:31,751
Huh?

906
01:10:31,791 --> 01:10:31,951
Yeah.

907
01:10:32,471 --> 01:10:33,271
I wonder.

908
01:10:33,571 --> 01:10:33,891
Hmm.

909
01:10:34,251 --> 01:10:36,471
And so I think now would be a good time to say,

910
01:10:36,571 --> 01:10:36,991
I mean,

911
01:10:37,011 --> 01:10:38,711
I think we said this in one of our first episodes,

912
01:10:38,711 --> 01:10:39,891
but we're back for season two.

913
01:10:40,091 --> 01:10:41,671
If this is the first time reiterating,

914
01:10:41,671 --> 01:10:49,511
Just reiterating, if this is the first time that you are listening to the Snap, we want to be a safe space for people of color.

915
01:10:49,671 --> 01:10:52,731
We want to be a safe space for the LGBTQIA folks.

916
01:10:52,731 --> 01:10:59,731
We want to be a safe space for just any marginalized community because also we know that in the Noster Bitcoin space,

917
01:10:59,811 --> 01:11:03,771
which is kind of primarily where we focus and advertise this podcast,

918
01:11:03,771 --> 01:11:12,931
there's definitely a certain type of person who I think is affiliated with that kind with the

919
01:11:12,931 --> 01:11:17,371
Nostra Bitcoin world and we're trying to change that like we think that that is a technology that

920
01:11:17,371 --> 01:11:24,171
can be helpful for everybody and we want to say hey normal people are here too hey people who

921
01:11:24,171 --> 01:11:31,411
believe x y and z are here too yeah and yeah we haven't taken the red pill or the blue pill yet

922
01:11:31,411 --> 01:11:36,771
guys yeah i know that's a thing from the matrix but i've never seen the matrix honestly i haven't

923
01:11:36,771 --> 01:11:42,791
seen it either yeah yeah we're rolling

924
01:11:42,791 --> 01:12:01,791
Let this pass

925
01:12:01,791 --> 01:12:06,791
It's never worth

926
01:12:07,391 --> 01:12:09,491
The tears we know

927
01:12:09,491 --> 01:12:12,731
They don't ever last

928
01:12:12,731 --> 01:12:17,791
Memories can harm

929
01:12:17,791 --> 01:12:22,831
We should have known back then

930
01:12:22,831 --> 01:12:29,611
You and your tongue like dagger

931
01:12:29,611 --> 01:12:34,031
And I with my poison pen

932
01:12:34,031 --> 01:12:39,491
Play to our strengths

933
01:12:39,491 --> 01:12:44,191
Let's give it time

934
01:12:44,191 --> 01:12:47,491
Just leave it be

935
01:12:47,491 --> 01:12:54,671
Losing the wrong

936
01:12:54,671 --> 01:12:58,331
We soon shall see

937
01:12:58,331 --> 01:13:04,431
You could win the hour

938
01:13:04,431 --> 01:13:08,131
But you might lose the day

939
01:13:08,131 --> 01:13:14,191
You're better off walking away

940
01:13:14,191 --> 01:13:27,091
Your coast is

941
01:13:27,091 --> 01:13:33,691
Cuts through me into distances

942
01:13:33,691 --> 01:13:37,331
I never knew there

943
01:13:37,331 --> 01:13:48,091
I'm privy to view that only you can paint

944
01:13:48,091 --> 01:13:59,431
Beautiful canvas you have protected so I won't taint

945
01:13:59,431 --> 01:14:04,471
I'm tired with my brush

946
01:14:04,471 --> 01:14:09,311
So let's give it time

947
01:14:09,311 --> 01:14:12,511
And just leave it be

948
01:14:12,511 --> 01:14:23,151
Who's in the run we soon shall see

949
01:14:23,151 --> 01:14:29,811
You could win the odds

950
01:14:29,811 --> 01:14:33,371
You might lose the day

951
01:14:33,371 --> 01:14:39,371
You're better off walking away

952
01:14:39,371 --> 01:14:40,371
Yeah

953
01:14:40,371 --> 01:14:52,371
You're casting out blastery

954
01:14:53,151 --> 01:15:00,151
heal me in

955
01:15:00,151 --> 01:15:03,151
those obvious gains

956
01:15:03,151 --> 01:15:09,151
of everything

957
01:15:09,151 --> 01:15:12,151
you are not a God

958
01:15:12,151 --> 01:15:18,151
and I am not your thing

959
01:15:18,151 --> 01:15:24,151
Do it whatever you please

960
01:15:32,791 --> 01:15:38,791
So let's give it time, just leave it be

961
01:15:38,791 --> 01:15:49,191
Who's in the run we soon shall see

962
01:15:49,191 --> 01:15:55,411
You could win the hour

963
01:15:55,411 --> 01:15:59,571
But you might lose the day

964
01:15:59,571 --> 01:16:06,151
You're better off walking away

965
01:16:06,151 --> 01:16:16,151
You're better off walking away

966
01:16:16,151 --> 01:16:28,471
You're better off walking away

967
01:16:28,471 --> 01:16:41,151
Hold on. I want to see if there's any, um, oh my gosh, hold on. Can I tell you,

968
01:16:41,151 --> 01:16:46,551
I was telling Katie before we started doing this, like we haven't seen each other for basically like

969
01:16:46,551 --> 01:16:50,471
two and a half months. I had a running list of things that I wanted to talk about. Um,

970
01:16:50,511 --> 01:16:55,631
not just for this episode, just for like the upcoming season and whatnot. Um, I'm telling

971
01:16:55,631 --> 01:17:01,171
you this now because the next time I see you I'm gonna have my hair done this is so random

972
01:17:01,171 --> 01:17:08,531
you can track our friendship by the growth of my hair right now that's so funny because Katie the

973
01:17:08,531 --> 01:17:13,951
day that we met was the last time I got my hair done really yes we met in October of last year I

974
01:17:13,951 --> 01:17:19,471
my friend Madison did my hair and so like not the pink and the tinsel but like how grown out like

975
01:17:19,471 --> 01:17:24,671
my actual darker blonde is that's how you can track our friendship right now that's so and so

976
01:17:24,671 --> 01:17:30,091
when I see you next Saturday that's gonna be gone along with our friendship no right right right

977
01:17:30,091 --> 01:17:36,751
out the window no it's so funny because of your hair I was in your bathroom earlier yeah and I

978
01:17:36,751 --> 01:17:42,571
you know do my business look up and I see like hair tinsel everywhere I was like kidsly has been

979
01:17:42,571 --> 01:17:49,791
here yes no and I have my my tinsel hung up like I think a 19th century butcher would have me hung

980
01:17:49,791 --> 01:17:57,951
up in their, in their warehouse, like in my bathroom, in my bathroom, because tinsel is hard

981
01:17:57,951 --> 01:18:02,851
to manage. For those of you who haven't had the great honor of dealing with putting tinsel in your

982
01:18:02,851 --> 01:18:08,211
hair all the time. Um, you can't, once it's out of the package, you can't just like shove it back

983
01:18:08,211 --> 01:18:13,411
in because it's going to get tangled and then you can't use it. So I have it like just dangling from

984
01:18:13,411 --> 01:18:18,131
a rod in my bathroom and it gets everywhere. That's how you can tell that Ainsley's been

985
01:18:18,131 --> 01:18:22,771
somewhere when there's just strands of tinsel breadcrumbs I do your personal breadcrumbs I'm

986
01:18:22,771 --> 01:18:26,591
sure and I'm sure that uh Katie's gonna be moving to a new house in a couple weeks I'm sure when

987
01:18:26,591 --> 01:18:30,711
you're cleaning your house you're gonna find some of my hair tinsel oh my god yeah I'm sure you've

988
01:18:30,711 --> 01:18:37,371
already found the person moving in after me is gonna be finding hair tinsel yeah yeah no I made

989
01:18:37,371 --> 01:18:43,371
a tick tock a long time ago about um there was this sound it was just like oh my god oh my god

990
01:18:43,371 --> 01:18:49,251
oh my god oh my god and it was pov you live with ainsley and it's just pans to tinsel in every

991
01:18:49,251 --> 01:18:54,591
corner of this household and it's all different colors too because i've done so many different

992
01:18:54,591 --> 01:18:58,971
pictures and photo shoots there was purple tinsel there was blue tinsel i mean everybody knows by

993
01:18:58,971 --> 01:19:04,411
now that my signature color is pink thank you very much but there was pink there was blue there was

994
01:19:04,411 --> 01:19:14,931
purple there was green tinsel for a song that i did one time so yeah see i my vibe is like

995
01:19:14,931 --> 01:19:23,631
not the tinsel i could see myself doing like not like manufactured like ainsley like put through

996
01:19:23,631 --> 01:19:30,351
the ringer no katie you are i love your brand it's a lot more like i would say like green purple

997
01:19:30,351 --> 01:19:38,211
yeah like kind of that vibe and a lot more like i could see myself putting like feathers in my hair

998
01:19:38,211 --> 01:19:43,451
maybe that's cool doing that yeah like as you as you took your your break this year were you

999
01:19:43,451 --> 01:19:48,311
thinking more about like how you want to brand the artist of katherine oh yeah i mean

1000
01:19:48,311 --> 01:19:54,051
it's something it's a tricky thing that every artist has to deal with because you need to be

1001
01:19:54,051 --> 01:20:01,971
able to separate yourself but you don't want to like pigeonhole yourself too much you know you

1002
01:20:01,971 --> 01:20:10,231
don't want to be known for one specific thing entirely like taylor swift has her red lips yeah

1003
01:20:10,231 --> 01:20:18,351
eyeliner tate mccray has her like very short short the body suit type thing in the jersey

1004
01:20:18,351 --> 01:20:35,751
Yeah, in the Jersey. Sabrina Carpenter has her very sparkly heart suit. Like, yeah, everybody has their own little stick. Yeah. And trying to find that while not being too like kitschy has been a little bit hard. Yeah, definitely.

1005
01:20:35,751 --> 01:20:44,371
and I think kind of what I've come to is I'm just gonna do the very classic like roller curls

1006
01:20:44,371 --> 01:20:51,111
oh love and then like the bodycon dresses and go for like old vintage and hope for the best

1007
01:20:51,111 --> 01:20:56,111
I love that no I think one time I don't remember if I told you this or not but um it was after

1008
01:20:56,111 --> 01:21:03,511
after one show that you did that I was um that I was lucky enough to witness my my dad and I were

1009
01:21:03,511 --> 01:21:07,751
talking about it afterwards because my dad has played piano for katie on a couple of different

1010
01:21:07,751 --> 01:21:16,091
occasions he is insane on the keys shout out jim as we're sitting in jim's man cave um we were

1011
01:21:16,091 --> 01:21:20,011
talking we were like you know what i feel like because i think another thing that artists are

1012
01:21:20,011 --> 01:21:25,711
always trying to do is trying to almost give themselves a new genre that can kind of just be

1013
01:21:25,711 --> 01:21:33,091
their own we were like katie's evening gown pop yeah which i was like that i feel like and take it

1014
01:21:33,091 --> 01:21:38,491
or leave it i was just like to me that is exactly what katie is and i love that yeah and and i kind

1015
01:21:38,491 --> 01:21:43,471
of like that too like it's very much like i want people to be able to come to the show and feel

1016
01:21:43,471 --> 01:21:50,351
like they've seen a show yeah absolutely i love the aspect of having jazz musicians yeah and really

1017
01:21:50,351 --> 01:22:08,643
showcasing what those musicians can do and like because i think a lot of it is when you a singer and when you like the quote unquote front man of the band you can let that go to your head and you kind of become the

1018
01:22:09,163 --> 01:22:13,143
yeah, well, I'm the musician that is kind of communicating with the crowd.

1019
01:22:16,103 --> 01:22:20,703
And I think it's really nice to take a step back

1020
01:22:20,703 --> 01:22:24,443
and let your musicians like showcase themselves.

1021
01:22:24,443 --> 01:22:29,903
and like i always love like the little um yeah and introducing my band like you know kind of doing

1022
01:22:29,903 --> 01:22:35,963
that um but i want to play around with that even more because there was there was a show that i saw

1023
01:22:35,963 --> 01:22:43,943
that i will always remember i love this band um stoplight observations yes and and you've heard

1024
01:22:43,943 --> 01:22:49,743
me talk about this show it was definitely one of those that i wouldn't go as far as like changed my

1025
01:22:49,743 --> 01:22:55,523
life but it definitely changed my perception of how a live show could go yeah because that's how

1026
01:22:55,523 --> 01:22:59,743
I felt when I saw the band Camino for the first time like yeah you kind of you look at it and you

1027
01:22:59,743 --> 01:23:08,243
go oh I see that makes sense I could totally do that what are they doing that I can replicate

1028
01:23:08,243 --> 01:23:15,483
right what are they doing that I could do which this band had like it was like an eight-piece

1029
01:23:15,483 --> 01:23:26,663
band it was it was hefty and all of it was mainly like jazz r&b almost electronic like it was really

1030
01:23:26,663 --> 01:23:36,483
cool different than i had really seen and all of them it was just a free-for-all like yeah i listened

1031
01:23:36,483 --> 01:23:43,303
to their music after and it sounded a tiny bit different a little bit the same but essentially

1032
01:23:43,303 --> 01:23:50,323
what he would do is start the song and then kind of go with it and like sing through the song

1033
01:23:50,323 --> 01:23:57,203
and then he would pass it to the drummer yeah and literally walk off stage tea he would walk

1034
01:23:57,203 --> 01:24:01,963
off stage go get a bottle of water and the drummer would then like pass it to the guitarist yeah and

1035
01:24:01,963 --> 01:24:06,403
the guitarist would just be like chilling and then the guitarist would pass it to the keys

1036
01:24:06,403 --> 01:24:12,363
yeah and like when i say pass it i'm meaning these musicians don't have any sheet music in front of

1037
01:24:12,363 --> 01:24:17,403
them don't know what key well they do know what key they're playing it but like don't know what

1038
01:24:17,403 --> 01:24:24,083
key it could possibly change to yeah absolutely they don't know who's doing what they don't know

1039
01:24:24,083 --> 01:24:31,103
what key or no is coming up and they're just looking at each other basing off they're basing

1040
01:24:31,103 --> 01:24:36,963
what they're doing off of watching somebody else do what they're doing yeah it's insane there is

1041
01:24:36,963 --> 01:24:43,323
insanely talented things like yeah there's this thing everybody always says that music is a

1042
01:24:43,323 --> 01:24:46,643
different language and it absolutely is but I would even venture to say that there are sub

1043
01:24:46,643 --> 01:24:51,943
languages within the language of music there's definitely the written if you can read sheet

1044
01:24:51,943 --> 01:24:57,883
music that is amazing but then there's also this telekinetic thing that happens when you're on stage

1045
01:24:57,883 --> 01:25:05,083
when you can't even really say music is so live music is just at the risk of sounding cheese and

1046
01:25:05,083 --> 01:25:11,403
cornball live music is magical yeah there is something there is something to live music that

1047
01:25:11,403 --> 01:25:18,323
you just like when you nail it it is magic one of the best feelings in the world one of the best

1048
01:25:18,323 --> 01:25:23,883
feelings in the world and it's not even like the applause factor of it yeah it's the fact that

1049
01:25:23,883 --> 01:25:31,523
you practice this for so long you tried for so long before you even practiced it to get it to

1050
01:25:31,523 --> 01:25:39,363
sound right melodically before that you tried for months to get it to sound right lyrically yep

1051
01:25:39,363 --> 01:25:45,903
before that something had to happen for you to experience that for you to write about that

1052
01:25:45,903 --> 01:25:51,743
it's this culmination of so many different things so and it happens in three minutes and you can

1053
01:25:51,743 --> 01:25:55,823
almost liken it to you know that argument where everybody says um it's not really even an argument

1054
01:25:55,823 --> 01:26:00,483
it's kind of just fact at this point that everybody says it is truly a miracle that every

1055
01:26:00,483 --> 01:26:06,183
Do you know how many things had to happen for you to be here as an alive person on this planet?

1056
01:26:06,343 --> 01:26:08,243
Like the big bang had to happen.

1057
01:26:08,443 --> 01:26:11,283
And then, you know, two leaves had to touch a million years ago.

1058
01:26:11,323 --> 01:26:14,283
And then your parents like locked eyes on the subway 20 years ago.

1059
01:26:14,323 --> 01:26:15,283
And bam, here you are.

1060
01:26:15,483 --> 01:26:18,563
I think the same thing can happen for writing songs.

1061
01:26:18,563 --> 01:26:21,243
Like, okay, you learned to write songs when you were 12.

1062
01:26:21,403 --> 01:26:23,043
And then, oh, you learned how to play an instrument.

1063
01:26:23,203 --> 01:26:27,723
And then, oh, you learned how to write songs based off of this artist style and this artist style.

1064
01:26:27,723 --> 01:26:31,583
And then you spent five years like writing shit songs to write one great one.

1065
01:26:31,763 --> 01:26:40,743
And then, oh, here's this one thing that only you know how to like really write about in a way that makes sense and connects to a wider audience.

1066
01:26:40,983 --> 01:26:42,363
And music is magical.

1067
01:26:42,643 --> 01:26:45,123
And I had this moment.

1068
01:26:45,223 --> 01:26:48,163
I had a couple moments when we got back that I was like, you know what?

1069
01:26:48,763 --> 01:26:49,823
Music is fucking hard.

1070
01:26:50,163 --> 01:26:52,863
It's fucking hard to chase this all the time.

1071
01:26:53,603 --> 01:26:56,243
But that doesn't mean that I don't want to do it.

1072
01:26:56,243 --> 01:26:58,043
I always want to keep doing this.

1073
01:26:58,263 --> 01:27:03,083
I just chose to be stubborn and choose a hard thing to do for my career.

1074
01:27:03,543 --> 01:27:06,203
We could have had an easier run if we said, you know what?

1075
01:27:06,323 --> 01:27:10,043
I want to be a bank teller and I'm going to be set forever.

1076
01:27:10,223 --> 01:27:12,643
But no, we decided to challenge ourselves.

1077
01:27:12,823 --> 01:27:14,863
And I'm not saying that bank tellers don't challenge themselves.

1078
01:27:15,023 --> 01:27:16,863
Shout out to our bank tellers who are listening.

1079
01:27:17,743 --> 01:27:21,683
But well, there's yeah, there's a lot to be said for that.

1080
01:27:21,763 --> 01:27:24,723
And I have this conversation with Jake pretty much every time we record.

1081
01:27:24,723 --> 01:27:29,663
Jake, as y'all know and love, is my producer.

1082
01:27:31,283 --> 01:27:31,963
Awesome guy.

1083
01:27:32,083 --> 01:27:33,303
He made our podcast intro.

1084
01:27:33,423 --> 01:27:33,943
He did.

1085
01:27:34,103 --> 01:27:37,123
Which maybe now that we're in season two, maybe we should make a new one.

1086
01:27:37,243 --> 01:27:37,983
I think we should.

1087
01:27:38,063 --> 01:27:38,283
Okay.

1088
01:27:38,463 --> 01:27:40,103
And I think we will go back to the studio.

1089
01:27:40,303 --> 01:27:40,783
That'll be fun.

1090
01:27:40,863 --> 01:27:41,043
Rad.

1091
01:27:41,283 --> 01:27:41,683
Let's do it.

1092
01:27:42,223 --> 01:27:42,623
Continue.

1093
01:27:43,223 --> 01:27:51,243
And Jake and I will always talk about this, where we'll start a song and I'll get like

1094
01:27:51,243 --> 01:28:00,763
the first verse a pre-chorus and maybe a chorus and i kind of like it don't love it don't have a

1095
01:28:00,763 --> 01:28:06,043
second verse and we'll just kind of leave it because jake and i will hit this point where

1096
01:28:06,043 --> 01:28:15,583
we will 100 overwork a song oh yeah like you you get to that point where i've done the first verse

1097
01:28:15,583 --> 01:28:22,023
and I know that the lyrics make sense but uh we've repeated this second verse for what seems

1098
01:28:22,023 --> 01:28:28,063
like an eternity and I still have nothing like I still there there is genuinely nothing coming to

1099
01:28:28,063 --> 01:28:33,643
mind so then we'll stop and we'll stop with that song and pick up a different one or one that we

1100
01:28:33,643 --> 01:28:39,523
haven't finished otherwise and it's always unorganized and it makes me very unanxious like

1101
01:28:39,523 --> 01:28:45,923
very anxious that I have 10 songs that are halfway done, five songs that are three quarters

1102
01:28:45,923 --> 01:28:51,323
of the way done, two songs that are fully mixed and mastered, and then five songs that

1103
01:28:51,323 --> 01:28:52,143
just need to be mastered.

1104
01:28:52,383 --> 01:28:52,503
Yep.

1105
01:28:52,563 --> 01:28:57,303
Like, it's annoying to have so many different things in so many different places.

1106
01:28:57,503 --> 01:28:57,663
Yeah.

1107
01:28:58,503 --> 01:29:05,043
But Jake always has to remind me, he's like, the best songs that we've done that we both

1108
01:29:05,043 --> 01:29:11,563
like the most are ones that we've been quote unquote working on for months because we started

1109
01:29:11,563 --> 01:29:20,183
the beat in February. I wrote a chorus to it in March. I wrote a verse to it in April and I just

1110
01:29:20,183 --> 01:29:29,303
got the second verse down right before I left. So now we have the whole song, but I don't like how

1111
01:29:29,303 --> 01:29:33,383
the chorus feeds in because now that I have the second verse and the pre-chorus in there,

1112
01:29:33,383 --> 01:29:39,643
the chorus doesn't make sense so now it's take it's taken like six months for this song to

1113
01:29:39,643 --> 01:29:45,823
actually come together but it's my favorite song because i wouldn't have had those lyrics

1114
01:29:45,823 --> 01:29:51,063
if i didn't have the first lyrics there before or if i didn't have the first chorus there before i

1115
01:29:51,063 --> 01:29:57,203
put this new chorus in like it wouldn't be the song that it was if i didn't truly take the time

1116
01:29:57,203 --> 01:30:03,583
and take the painstaking, weird, ugly, very annoying, anxious thing to work with and just

1117
01:30:03,583 --> 01:30:11,063
do it. Great songs. A lot of great songs take time to marinate. Like one of the things sometimes

1118
01:30:11,063 --> 01:30:15,403
when I get down about myself, about my artistic capabilities or my songwriting capabilities,

1119
01:30:15,403 --> 01:30:20,383
one of the things that I'm like, well, I don't write songs in 20 minutes. And that's great. Some

1120
01:30:20,383 --> 01:30:24,523
of the best songs ever have been written in 20 minutes. Nobody can argue with that, but not every

1121
01:30:24,523 --> 01:30:29,383
song is written in 20 minutes. Not every great song is written in 20 minutes. I'm sure there are

1122
01:30:29,383 --> 01:30:33,543
so many people who can claim, oh, well, I've written six songs in a day and I wrote all of

1123
01:30:33,543 --> 01:30:38,443
them in 20 minutes and they're all terrible. Right. Like they're not just, just, just because

1124
01:30:38,443 --> 01:30:42,463
of how to be winners, girlfriend. Yes. Just because of how fast you wrote something does

1125
01:30:42,463 --> 01:30:47,223
not equate to it being the faster you write something doesn't mean that it's better. And

1126
01:30:47,223 --> 01:30:51,083
the slower you write something doesn't mean that it's better. The creative process,

1127
01:30:51,083 --> 01:30:58,323
like the finished product is so subjective. When I'm writing with other people, I can get a song

1128
01:30:58,323 --> 01:31:02,983
finished in three hours. But when I write songs by myself, it takes me a couple of weeks to just

1129
01:31:02,983 --> 01:31:08,363
write one song because I have the chorus idea first. And then I write that for a little bit.

1130
01:31:08,363 --> 01:31:14,163
There's this one song that I wrote a couple of days before the U.S. election. So take that what

1131
01:31:14,163 --> 01:31:18,863
you will. I wrote it at a very interesting time. I wrote it a couple of days before the U.S. election

1132
01:31:18,863 --> 01:31:22,723
And I wrote it a couple of days after I finished reading Throne of Glass for the first time.

1133
01:31:23,083 --> 01:31:28,983
So that's a lot of interesting subjects that are kind of ruminating in my mind.

1134
01:31:29,083 --> 01:31:36,083
And if you don't know what Throne of Glass is, it's basically the fantasy version of all those books that we were just talking about that are fighting against oppressive systems.

1135
01:31:36,083 --> 01:31:41,243
And it's an eight book culmination of like the good guys won out, but it was fucking hard, but we did it.

1136
01:31:41,803 --> 01:31:48,243
I wrote this song in the midst of those two events happening.

1137
01:31:48,243 --> 01:31:52,363
and it is one of my favorite songs I've ever written. I've never shown it to anybody because

1138
01:31:52,363 --> 01:31:56,503
part of me is like, I love it so much that you don't want to hear somebody tell you that they

1139
01:31:56,503 --> 01:32:01,743
don't like it or that like they like it, but yes, exactly. I have a few of those too. I totally

1140
01:32:01,743 --> 01:32:08,763
understand. And I love this song so much. Um, but it took me a couple, like I had written probably

1141
01:32:08,763 --> 01:32:14,583
three fully finished versions of that song, but I was like, no, that doesn't. I love this bit of

1142
01:32:14,583 --> 01:32:19,123
the pre-chorus but it doesn't fit with the rest of it and the rest of it is not this really specific

1143
01:32:19,123 --> 01:32:23,583
emotion that I'm trying to convey about how these two events that are intersecting are making me

1144
01:32:23,583 --> 01:32:29,923
feel right now um and it took me probably a good like week and a half to finally like working on

1145
01:32:29,923 --> 01:32:36,803
that song every day for it to be like this is one of my favorite songs I've ever written and I did

1146
01:32:36,803 --> 01:32:41,403
not write that song in 20 minutes I have songs that I've written in 20 minutes and one of them's

1147
01:32:41,403 --> 01:32:47,103
great most of the songs i've written in 20 minutes terrible yeah i mean there's there are songs that

1148
01:32:47,103 --> 01:32:53,103
i have spit out in the recording booth that i literally it was a first verse and chorus

1149
01:32:53,103 --> 01:33:00,563
and i was like oh that's actually halfway decent yeah well you kind of spit it out and you're like

1150
01:33:00,563 --> 01:33:09,703
wait a second i am a writer go me hell yeah hell yeah i know what i'm doing yeah like damn yeah i

1151
01:33:09,703 --> 01:33:15,843
can do that but then there's those other sessions where Jake and I will get two words down and four

1152
01:33:15,843 --> 01:33:23,123
hours and you're sitting there like am I an idiot pulling my hair out yeah like am I just stupid

1153
01:33:23,123 --> 01:33:30,343
songwriting is like alchemy and I say that uh no pun intended for the song that I wrote called

1154
01:33:30,343 --> 01:33:35,703
alchemy uh with the help of a lot of other people but I think you know the the meaning of alchemy is

1155
01:33:35,703 --> 01:33:37,023
is this like magical thing.

1156
01:33:37,023 --> 01:33:40,403
Nobody really knows what it's kind of this like dark art.

1157
01:33:40,403 --> 01:33:43,703
Nobody knows kind of all the ways that come together

1158
01:33:43,703 --> 01:33:44,843
to kind of get this magical thing.

1159
01:33:44,895 --> 01:33:50,535
finished created product and that's absolutely what songwriting is there's um this awesome

1160
01:33:50,535 --> 01:33:55,715
documentary called it all starts with a song that really takes you into um and I recommend this to

1161
01:33:55,715 --> 01:34:05,395
everybody um really takes you into the um the deep um community of the Nashville songwriters and how

1162
01:34:05,395 --> 01:34:10,895
everybody works together and what the industry is like and at the end they go around and they ask a

1163
01:34:10,895 --> 01:34:14,415
bunch of like really successful Nashville songwriters like Casey Musgraves and Shane

1164
01:34:14,415 --> 01:34:19,115
McAnally and just a bunch of those kinds of guys. And they're like, writing a song is fill in the

1165
01:34:19,115 --> 01:34:24,135
blank. And all of them have different answers to it. Writing a song is magic. Writing a song is

1166
01:34:24,135 --> 01:34:29,935
terrifying. Sometimes I write a song every time you sit down to write a song. I think Shane

1167
01:34:29,935 --> 01:34:34,335
McAnally said this and he said, every time you sit down to write a song, you don't know what

1168
01:34:34,335 --> 01:34:38,595
you're doing and you find it along the way. Like you sit down not knowing how to write a song

1169
01:34:38,595 --> 01:34:43,295
every time you do it and I always feel that too I've been writing songs for almost 10 years of my

1170
01:34:43,295 --> 01:34:47,995
life at this point and every time I still go in to write with other people I'm scared and I'm nervous

1171
01:34:47,995 --> 01:34:58,335
yeah yeah well I mean because you're only scared and nervous when you've had those rights that you

1172
01:34:58,335 --> 01:35:04,955
have the best intention going into it and you know the person and you've talked and you're like

1173
01:35:04,955 --> 01:35:09,935
and you know that they're like a good person you like have a friendship with them yeah and you go

1174
01:35:09,935 --> 01:35:15,375
in and you're like oh this is gonna be great and then you go to start writing and it's like

1175
01:35:15,375 --> 01:35:22,115
oh this isn't as great and then you think that the other person is gonna think that the reason

1176
01:35:22,115 --> 01:35:27,655
that the song isn't turning out well is because it's all your fault right right also like a great

1177
01:35:27,655 --> 01:35:43,272
song that written by so many people is contributed by all of those people and so then when a song maybe doesn work that also everyone fault and it also everybody success when a song is great right yeah but it yeah you know that feeling it

1178
01:35:43,272 --> 01:35:51,832
kind of like dang because then you start to feel almost insecure you're like not only does he think

1179
01:35:51,832 --> 01:35:58,372
that I'm a bad writer but my stomach is growling and now I'm going to do the demo and I can't sing

1180
01:35:58,372 --> 01:36:07,652
right right I can't sing yeah and now I am kind of losing my confidence yes because I'm not writing

1181
01:36:07,652 --> 01:36:12,332
at the caliber that I know that I normally write at and like and so then you start getting in your

1182
01:36:12,332 --> 01:36:21,192
head and then it's like oh wait oh okay step back hold up take a deep breath hold up um and I had

1183
01:36:21,192 --> 01:36:27,132
one of those rights where essentially like it was going and then I wasn't and then it was going and

1184
01:36:27,132 --> 01:36:34,252
then I wasn't and it really just came down to we were in two completely different genres yeah and

1185
01:36:34,252 --> 01:36:41,472
we just wanted to see what would happen if we tried and we saw what happened

1186
01:36:41,472 --> 01:36:53,552
and hey you tried you can't say you didn't try right like definitely tried um and I think and

1187
01:36:53,552 --> 01:36:58,712
there's other people that you write with and you're like oh my god you have the same brain magic

1188
01:36:58,712 --> 01:37:03,272
magic but also just because you have a magic collaborator it doesn't mean everything you do

1189
01:37:03,272 --> 01:37:06,712
together is going to be amazing because like creativity just doesn't work like that right

1190
01:37:06,712 --> 01:37:12,372
yeah and I believe that you have to write nine bad songs to get one good one and that is just

1191
01:37:12,372 --> 01:37:17,952
part of the reason that contributes to this being a hard industry because 90 of the time you are

1192
01:37:17,952 --> 01:37:22,572
doubting yourself and your capabilities yeah and you have to toe this really fine line of like

1193
01:37:22,572 --> 01:37:34,889
I ain shit but I am the shit right I have to have a really healthy balance of both of them It a balance of there are a hundred people that are lined up behind me

1194
01:37:34,889 --> 01:37:37,109
that want the same thing,

1195
01:37:37,289 --> 01:37:41,529
but there were a hundred people in front of me when I started.

1196
01:37:42,509 --> 01:37:43,749
And look where we're at now.

1197
01:37:43,749 --> 01:37:45,409
So I got somewhere.

1198
01:37:45,629 --> 01:37:46,489
Yeah, absolutely.

1199
01:37:47,489 --> 01:37:48,729
I got somewhere.

1200
01:37:48,889 --> 01:37:49,849
Yeah, totally.

1201
01:37:50,469 --> 01:37:53,369
And creativity is magical and it's hard.

1202
01:37:53,529 --> 01:37:59,189
Um, but I think it is a very noble thing that we have decided to do. And any person who is

1203
01:37:59,189 --> 01:38:05,309
creative, you're magic. And don't forget that. I have like most of the week I'm always saying to

1204
01:38:05,309 --> 01:38:10,109
myself like, oh, well this person's having this happen to them and that's great for them. And

1205
01:38:10,109 --> 01:38:14,489
oh, well I'm not singing at this bar that I want to be singing at. But then my singing teacher,

1206
01:38:14,609 --> 01:38:17,969
when I was 15, told me that I'm going to be a great singer by 25. So, okay. And then this,

1207
01:38:18,009 --> 01:38:22,429
and then I'm always doubting myself. And then I have approximately one hour out of every week

1208
01:38:22,429 --> 01:38:29,009
that I'm like Ainsley you know what you're doing you're actually okay at this there's and I'm gonna

1209
01:38:29,009 --> 01:38:38,549
say this and not to detriment anybody but sometimes I do need to remind myself just to get outside

1210
01:38:38,549 --> 01:38:45,689
and talk to people yeah because you then you start to realize like no you actually kind of do know

1211
01:38:45,689 --> 01:38:52,109
your shit yeah like there there's not this sense of like oh I'm better than you it's just the sense

1212
01:38:52,109 --> 01:38:58,569
of no I'm not I'm not insecure yeah like I don't I don't think that I'm better than you but I also

1213
01:38:58,569 --> 01:39:03,689
know that I'm educated yeah like we can have this conversation and I feel like it's equitable yeah

1214
01:39:03,689 --> 01:39:13,889
because we're we know the same information yeah but in this room five years ago I wouldn't yeah

1215
01:39:13,889 --> 01:39:29,826
and so I would be in a completely different position to you and that growth and if you And realizing that is part of like okay i may not be in the place where i think i should be but i am definitely further than i was

1216
01:39:29,826 --> 01:39:35,946
five years ago absolutely but unless you give yourself opportunities to show that to yourself

1217
01:39:35,946 --> 01:39:40,606
you'll never know absolutely there will be times where i have not seen anybody involved in music

1218
01:39:40,606 --> 01:39:45,866
or like two weeks and I'm down in the dumps because I'm like I haven't released a song I

1219
01:39:45,866 --> 01:39:51,626
don't have any social media out posts right now like I need to be doing x y and z and then I'll go

1220
01:39:51,626 --> 01:40:00,166
to uh like an event where you're networking and then I'll be answering questions yeah and it's

1221
01:40:00,166 --> 01:40:08,186
kind of like a okay you know yourself you know what you're doing you have an education it's always

1222
01:40:08,186 --> 01:40:12,926
there it's always going to be there for you to call upon it like your magic your magic powers

1223
01:40:12,926 --> 01:40:21,206
yes like like you you have it girl yeah just fake it till you make it yeah absolutely you got it but

1224
01:40:21,206 --> 01:40:28,186
and that's a message to everybody truly fake it till you make it yeah absolutely well I think this

1225
01:40:28,186 --> 01:40:33,506
has been I've just been thinking this the whole time that we've been talking we need to wrap this

1226
01:40:33,506 --> 01:40:38,766
up because Katie's got to go. But I've been thinking the whole time, like we haven't recorded

1227
01:40:38,766 --> 01:40:42,646
in so long that I feel like this has been a great episode. We really didn't even plan this out. We

1228
01:40:42,646 --> 01:40:46,266
were just like, let's just chat and go. And we normally do. We normally have like a whole layout.

1229
01:40:46,606 --> 01:40:52,546
So you're welcome. You're welcome, everybody. We hope that you missed us because we missed you.

1230
01:40:53,666 --> 01:40:57,426
And just a little bit. Yeah. So we're back for season two. After this, we'll be putting out

1231
01:40:57,426 --> 01:41:03,166
regular episodes again. So make sure to tune in for those. But until next time, I'm your host,

1232
01:41:03,166 --> 01:41:09,746
Dainsley. And I'm your host Katie. And this has been The Snap. All right team we'll see you later.