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Welcome to the Free Cities podcast. My name is Timothy Allen and this is the official podcast

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of the Free Cities Foundation.

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Hello and welcome to this episode number 153 of the Free Cities podcast,

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brought to you as always by our wonderful sponsors of the show, Veritas Villages.

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Veritas Villages are freedom-oriented, energy-self-sufficient communities in Latin America

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designed for people who want to enjoy peace of mind and real freedom in these uncertain times.

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And as you know, all the communities use Bitcoin.

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And as I've said many times before, you can buy your property with Bitcoin as well.

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If you're interested in a Plan B option in Central America, go to www.veritasvillages.com forward slash free cities.

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Please use that link and let them know that we sent you.

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Everything's in the show notes.

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and a quick reminder one of the final times Patrick who founded the company Veritas Villages

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will be speaking at the Free Cities Conference in Prague in what is now just about seven days away

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unbelievable the biggest and best Free Cities Conference of the year is almost upon us

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so now of course it's time for you that person wrapped with regret and now consumed with FOMO

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you finally have to go out and buy your ticket your full price ticket book your last minute

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extremely overpriced flights find a place on someone's hotel room floor of course not I know

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you I know my listeners you're all highly efficient operators you sorted this out months ago

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so I will obviously be seeing you there. I have a very busy schedule, it has to be said,

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but I'll certainly be in the auditorium for the opening speeches and definitely at the VIP dinner

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on Friday night too, so please, if you see me, come and say hello. It's time to mingle, folks.

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It's the Free Cities Conference and it's all about meeting other people in the Free Cities space.

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I cannot wait. Right, on to today's show. And as the title suggests, we're back in the world of

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conspiracies again. I'm speaking with my very good friend, Daniel Prince. Now, Dan needs a

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little introduction. He's got one of the most popular Bitcoin podcasts in the world. He's been

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on the show before as well i suspect most of you will know who he is um something else to mention

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if you didn't listen to episode 148 with patrick henningson uh either go and listen to it now

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or probably better than that is after you've listened to this episode go and listen to it

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uh it's not that these two episodes were consciously connected they're obviously connected

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in title. It's just that I think what's great about them is they both offer two slightly

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different ways to approach the idea of conspiracies. Patrick very much uses the language of a seasoned

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journalist, trying not to exclude too many people as he unravels the hidden connections in the world.

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Princey, on the other hand, well, he's not afraid to alienate anyone, talking about the kind of

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conspiracies that normally get you lumped into the crazies category and he's very cognizant of that

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um it's absolutely fine by me i i love both ways given the chance i'll happily discuss conspiracy

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theories from either standpoint mind you at a push i'd say probably trying to alienate the least

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number of people is probably the best option if you want people to understand what you think you

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You know, saying that, though, I don't mind admitting in public what I believe in private when the conversation requires it.

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And you'll get a bit of that here. So look out for that.

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Of course, this doesn't mean I expect you to join me down these rabbit holes.

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They're not for everyone. I appreciate that.

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Right. Let's have an AI summary.

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And ChatGPT has really cocked it up, but I thought I'd say it anyway.

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I'm trying to get it to be more engaging and it really doesn't understand the human condition.

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Welcome to today's episode and buckle up because this one takes some unexpected turns.

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What starts as a lighthearted chat about earphones, which is cut out of the episode,

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obviously it was a little bit of banter at the start, quickly spirals into a deep dive

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through the strange and fascinating intersections of technology, health and hidden control systems.

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tim welcomes princy a former bitcoin purist turned full spectrum conspiracy explorer

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as they unpack everything from the effects of blue light and zombie mode to the flickering tricks

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of las vegas casinos and how our smartphones might be using similar methods to keep us hooked from

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there the conversation climbs higher into the clouds literally exploring chemtrails yep you're

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gonna love that one weather modification and the powerful forces behind them along the way

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the hosts connect the dots between digital manipulation social engineering and the illusion

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of ownership in modern life before landing on a message of empowerment stay awake stay free and

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keep stacking sats i mean that that doesn't really do it justice i prefer the fountain

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summary fountain has its own ai that that comes there's very much more down to earth

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it they're calling him princy as well so tim and princy discuss various conspiracy theories and

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the importance of personal freedom in a world increasingly controlled by social engineering

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and technological manipulation but they get it right with the key topics blue light and health

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chemtrails and weather control secret societies and world governance bitcoin as a means of opting

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out and allodial titles as true ownership now that might seem like a pretty random bunch of

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concepts there but they actually do all weave together relatively well it's a great episode i

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love talking to dan he's he's an old mate from the bitcoin world and we love a good natter

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everything's on the table with Dan and I'm the same kind of person right a couple of things to

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take note of in the show notes there's two links in there one is a link that Dan asked me to put

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in there to one of his stolen science series is on his own podcast about chemtrails for all the

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info there and the other one is a link to the video that I was speaking about who I couldn't

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quite remember the name of the guy it was bob lazar who the name i was trying to think of and

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that's a an old grainy video of him talking about what he thinks he knows about the origins of

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religion both of those in the show notes uh go and check them out with all the other stuff and

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probably anything else you might need to time to thank my wonderful supporters before we go on

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Right Final shout out to all the Britcoiners listening I know Dan got a good following in the UK BitFest UK is coming up 21st to the 23rd of November in Manchester Five events over three days Noster Day Bitcoin Day BitFlix which is films Bitcoin films

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discount on your already quite cheap ticket and I will see you there. Right, let's get into it.

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you'll want to sit this one out in a double-layered Faraday cage.

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You lot don't let them get to your brain, right?

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Keep the faith, sit back, relax, and enjoy my conversation with Daniel Prince.

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Princey

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I love that you have an absolute blank page

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for Giacomo's interview you've got a full page of notes of what you want to ask him

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blank canvas let's go

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Yeah, let's fucking go. I did. I even last night watched some of Giacomo's videos. Because the thing is, when you speak to Bitcoiners, there's a limit to... I've already noticed that the golden age of Bitcoin podcasts is kind of over, isn't it?

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So I'm trying to dig between the lines.

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And I've definitely found it.

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I mean, a guy I interviewed this morning, which was a real surprise, Leon Vancombe?

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The kind of real estate guy?

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You know what I mean?

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I saw something he'd posted on Twitter and I thought, there's more to this guy than you think.

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He's not because he was on Preston's show and he's just talking about real estate as if he's a real estate dude,

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which he is but he also he studied under um a guy who used to run the free cities foundation

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he's into like austrian economics massively he's into the philosophy philosophical side of bitcoin

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we ended up speaking for two hours and it was really good you know and that's what i have to

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do but with you i mean i just know you now i know you now as the conspiracy guy i could even put the

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lights i could make them a bit warmer for you if you want like you can spin them but but you've

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actually done exactly what i'm talking about you used to be once been in the bitcoin podcast

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and now you are the alex jones show let's face it mr was it mr um what are they called

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chemtrails chemtrails right the chemtrail king yeah but but i mean you have pivoted into

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like i think this is the way this is how it looks like it went to me you get into bitcoin you realize

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that money's a scam. And then from that point on, you realize everything's a scam. That's

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basically it, isn't it?

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Yes. And as a result, you now interview, I mean, Bitcoin's still a core part of it,

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but it's a lot of other stuff. Like, I take it those glasses have something to do with it.

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Yeah, absolutely. And this came actually directly from the interview with Jack Cruz,

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Dr. Jack Cruz, who is a Bitcoiner as well and a neurosurgeon.

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So if nobody's heard of Jack, I would certainly follow him on Twitter.

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He does a lot of long form tweets that aren't AI.

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It's actually he curates them from his newsletter.

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So he has his tribe that he calls the mitochondriacs.

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and because he's all about cellular biology

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and light is a huge thing for him and for us

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and for our biology.

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very complicated biological, physiological, physics

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and chemistry stuff that we wouldn't have been taught at school

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and getting that across in layman's terms.

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And he's coming, I keep banging the table, sorry.

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And he comes from, he had three or four decades as a neurosurgeon,

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like literally unscrewing the tops of people's heads

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and sorting out their brains and then screwing,

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you know, the classic man from two brain scenes.

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Oh, he is a brain surgeon.

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Yes, like fully, fully on.

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And I actually remember that the first time I come across Jack was in Clubhouse.

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Oh, my God, is that still a thing?

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Well, it is still a thing, but I haven't been on Clubhouse basically since Spaces started, right?

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But do you remember we were all locked down?

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I didn't have the balls to go on that.

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I hadn't gone online and I hadn't revealed myself face to face online until the pandemic, believe it or not.

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You know, like when we did Safe Teens thing.

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I was like nervous to turn the camera on.

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In fact, I'm pretty sure I didn't turn the camera on immediately.

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But that was the beginning.

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Now you say that.

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That was the beginning of it.

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Zoom, all that stuff happened when everyone got locked down.

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Prior to that, I had never done a video call.

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so you've been a twitter lurker or everything lurker so you were on twitter but you were just

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a lurker you weren't like you um i was on twitter but i had a completely different personality

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i was the the media me filmmaking photography all that kind of stuff and i i never put i never put

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my own image on there i just put my pictures and films you know that was it was like a marketing

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thing more than anything i didn't really do opinions i still don't i don't really but but i

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do distinctly remember going on do you know right one one thing i did you know what it's like when

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something new like that happens you you say i'll try that you know and it seemed quite

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quite intrusive actually and do you know do you know a guy on twitter he's an absolute nutter

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called bit lord oh my god he's he's like part he's it's hard to know exactly what he is but

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he definitely he's definitely a shit coiner he's definitely a meme trader he's all that stuff

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but he also is a is like a stand-up comedian and during the pandemic he did this hilarious

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like um series of him being in china saying i've got to get out of here people are dying all around

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me and stuff like that and it went completely viral and um no one knew whether it was real or

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not it was really bizarre you know he was really playing on that thing now you obviously realize

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he's a complete nutter he one time he set fire to his he lost all his money on meme coins and he

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set fire to his apartment you know in dubai and stuff like that but but he you know he didn't

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really burn his apartment down but he did he does really really funny rants anyway and one time i

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was laughing my head off watching this thing and he just put a tweet out saying who wants to do a

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spaces come on now and i thought sod it and i did i just went straight on popped up live and there

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was like five of us there and i was like this is the most full-on thing i think i've ever done i'm

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I'm just like, here, people can see into my office, you know,

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and behind me and stuff.

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It's so second nature to us now.

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But that was literally me trying it for the first time.

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And it was 20, what was that, 2020 or something?

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So Clubhouse, because COVID pushed us all to think of different ways

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to connect with each other online in a more meaningful way,

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that you had House Party.

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Do you remember that?

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That was the kids version, right?

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That was like the app that you downloaded and you could have.

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Because up until that point, we just had Skype.

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Skype was, that was kind of the monopoly.

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Do you know that they went out of business, by the way, recently?

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How is that possible?

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I found this out about three months ago in Morocco.

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The guy I was interviewing said, yes, Skype went out.

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They went into liquidation about two weeks ago, which is unbelievable.

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I thought they could have cornered that market.

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How do you fuck that up?

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They were the only game in town.

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And then everybody wanted to go online because we'd been physically,

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locked away from each other.

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human beings are physical and social creatures.

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So what do we do?

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we,

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we iterate and you get clubhouse and you get a house party.

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And I think there was one other,

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I can't remember what it is.

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It was definitely house party for the kids,

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which was,

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we banned it in our house.

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It was so annoying.

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And it was probably a complete privacy nightmare when you look back.

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Most likely,

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looking back.

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Yeah.

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um and yeah but and i never did clubhouse because clubhouse was a bit of a kind of in

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there was a bit of an in thing there it wasn't very friendly well you needed that's right you're

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correct you needed an invite from someone else to join it that's it and not only that it was

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iphone enabled only and i didn't oh yeah i didn't know i didn't have an iphone uh and i started

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getting pressure from bitcoiners like why aren you on clubhouse you need to be on clubhouse get on Clubhouse I think we had this conversation back then actually I pretty sure we did Probably because we were on the weekly calls with Safe That right yeah

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So it probably would have come up at some stage.

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But I did get on it, and I was listening to a discussion.

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I was in one of the rooms, and on comes Jack.

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Jack who?

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Jack Cruz.

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Oh, Jack Cruz, who we were talking about.

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Right.

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And he just starts dropping these bombs,

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and he clearly knew what he was talking about.

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You could, you know, you just know within a first sentence

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whether this guy's a Bitcoiner or not a Bitcoiner.

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And you know he was a Bitcoiner.

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And he started talking about how he's just come out of surgery

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because he's a brain surgeon, this, that, and the other thing, blah, blah, blah.

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And he starts talking about the pandemic and what's going on

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and this is all completely nonsense, what's going on in hospitals,

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with the respirators and all of this kind of stuff.

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It's just wow.

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So I've been following him for a long time and just learning a lot more

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from his work and I've had him on my podcast.

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He had a TED Talk band in 2011.

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Really? On what?

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Cold therapy, pretty much.

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As in ice baths and stuff like that?

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Yeah, way before Wim Hof and any of this kind of stuff.

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So, yeah, literally the feds knocked down his door

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and wanted to know what he was working on and why

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and all this kind of stuff.

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So that was Lauren's first question on the podcast.

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So why was your TED Talk band?

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and that set up the whole conversation.

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We had a two-and-a-half-hour conversation.

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But he does a lot on light, on our eyes,

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and what our eyes are basically,

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they need the full spectrum of light to be coming in.

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They are like this information channel,

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this superhighway of information down to our cellular level.

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And lights like these, the UV lights that are in, like this is...

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LEDs, you mean?

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LEDs, specifically.

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Yeah, yeah, I've heard about that.

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Yeah, LEDs and blue light specifically.

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And blue light that's flickering.

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These things are flickering.

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Our eyes can't pick it up.

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But you know what?

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You're a cameraman.

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You know when you film a computer screen or something like that,

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you'll see the flicker.

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Are you turning them down?

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No, I can make them go yellow.

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Oh, right, okay.

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That's white light.

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Yeah.

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And then yellow light.

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It depends what you want.

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I've got them set to half and half.

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Right.

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You know, so that's that's the reason for for the blue blockers.

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So it blocks the blue lights.

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So whenever I'm at these conferences, you generally a bit because of the nature of the podcast and the work that I've done in the past, I'll be invited to the podcast to the conferences to host the stages or to host panels.

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and uh that means i'm locked inside for eight to nine hours all day uh and i'm just having this

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unnatural light beamed at me all day long because you're on the stage you've got the red lights the

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blue lights the green lights the flashing lights you've got the tv screens and whatever else

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and jack's like dude that stuff is just so bad for you and what was it do then um now i wish i

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wish i could explain to you oh you do yeah you just wear the glasses mate yeah no it's going to

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completely knock you out of your your circadian rhythm and so like it like i said the eyes are

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the information superhighway so if you want to be in a good circadian rhythm you want to be getting

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the uh the red light the good red light in the very morning the very very early morning sun

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that's when you've got good red light from from the sun during the rest of the day you've got

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what's called UV light, and that is still very, very good for you. You want all of the spectrum

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of the light in your pupil. And then in the evening, the sunset, you have the red light again.

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So if you're not getting that full spectrum, your circadian rhythm is getting completely screwed up.

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Now, if you look at our, if you just take the general fiat lifestyle, we've all lived it.

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Generally, most people listening might be commuting, listening to this podcast at this time.

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you've woken up depending on where you live it might even be dark so you've you're not going to

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even see the sunrise by the time the sun rises you'd have been on the train or the bus under led

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blue flickering lights then you'd have got to the office and you'll be under led flickering blue

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lights you'll be looking at a computer screen or two at the very least depending on your job and

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your cubicle you probably got double screens or a laptop on the go at the same time at the very

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least so you're looking at this blue flashing light all day long above you and right in front

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of your eyes then the reverse happens on your way home and then when you get home what do you do you

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sit down in your dip in the sofa and you turn on the television so you do and then people wonder

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why their sleep is fucked up i did see on on i think it was nostor yesterday maybe you posted it

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There was a very good meme, which was like a, you know, like a page of a cartoon page.

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And it was a cartoon character.

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And it was first thing in the morning at breakfast, looking at the phone, going to work, looking at the screen at 11 o'clock, taking a break from the screen to look at the phone.

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You know, lunchtime, you know, back to the screen, just like how you've described.

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And it's true.

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I actually do do that.

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I work at home and taking a break for me is going to the phone and it and that's I've never even

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thought of it like that before that's that's quite serious isn't it like you know I I don't

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like looking at screens but why the fuck we do look at screens a hell of a lot even conscientious

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people look at screens a lot you know the only way you can't is to literally work outside with

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your hands or something you know otherwise you know I think I used to read a lot of books

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it's like looking at a screen you know but it's not right the the lights are having a bad effect

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on you so do you want to go the alex jones route now down the light stuff which which jack talked

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about oh well if jack if jack says it jack's the brain surgeon not me so he take me down like the

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can the led rabbit hole the led conspiratorial blue light rabbit hole basically yeah uh because

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um it does put you in a state of like uh zombie mode uh and this is where the whole tinfoil hat

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wearing kind of uh meme comes from uh because people used to used to believe and correctly

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that the television was programming you in some way and whether that was the frequency from the

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actual device itself or the flickering blue light is it alpha waves as well that puts you into a

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meditative state because i think kids get particularly mesmerized just look at them

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yeah when when they're looking at their uh you know this this thing is real and uh and jack

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basically says this goes back to the formation of uh of las vegas because what was happening in las

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vegas well all of these casinos were getting built who was building the casinos the mafia

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and people that, not great people, let's put it that way.

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And what did they figure out?

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Well, they figured out like these,

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the slot machines are a classic example,

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the blue flashing lights.

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You get mesmerized sitting in front of them.

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So, and then they started layering on different tricks.

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So they'd take all the clocks out of the casinos.

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They'd black out the windows

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or the windows would be fake windows,

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blue lights above you

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because they're flickering the whole time.

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And they realized that they, and pump oxygen in, right?

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These are the classic tricks that everybody knows now.

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This isn't a conspiracy theory.

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This is all completely, totally proven.

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That puts somebody into like almost a meditative zombie state.

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So they'll just keep putting the coins in, right?

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Or they'll keep gambling away at the blackjack table or the roulette table or whatever.

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So then this gets transformed into like big tech now.

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So why is it?

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if we know that's what the technology does,

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why are all of our laptops built in such a way?

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Why are all of the televisions built in such a way?

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And of course, they'll tell you because it's the better,

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you know, you want the 4D, HD, this, that, and the other thing,

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best film experience,

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and you want the best experience from your monitor.

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But what's actually happening is that that flickering light is so bad for you.

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It's putting you in a state,

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and they are able to control you in many, many different ways

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that you even thought possible,

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you pair that with the algorithm stuff that we all know is going on in Twitter,

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the nudging and whatever else,

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and whether it's Facebook and you can look at Cambridge Analytica

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and all that kind of stuff.

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We'll come on to Dominic Cummings and another conspiracy theory.

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And so now we have a Bitcoiner company run by two Bitcoiners, Anjan and Tristan, and it's called Daylight Computer.

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Have you bumped up against these guys? Do you know what they do?

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So they produce basically an iPad, a tablet, but it's good tech health.

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What they're trying to do is completely turn the tables like Bitcoiners do.

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Take the bad health in the tech and turn it into good health So they devised this screen that there no backlight at all none of this flashing blue light or anything like that

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Was it like an Amazon Kindle screen or something?

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Yeah, something along those lines, exactly.

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But now it's a beautiful touchpad, and you can use the stylus pen on it,

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and you can have all your apps on there, and it's a very, very cool piece of kit.

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So that, you know, all the way back around, that's why I wear the glasses under the blue lights.

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But when I'm outside, they're straight off.

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But I don't wear sunglasses because sunglasses then block the UV light that you still need.

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And if you're blocking, if you're using the sunglasses to block that light, then you're not getting all of that information.

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Your eyes don't know what time of day it is.

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Your eyes do not know how sunny and bright it is outside.

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so your body will not produce the melanin that it needs to protect you from the sun which is

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basically what all the suntan is is because it gets more and more intense the light gets more

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and more intense you produce more melanin the melanin is darker pigment in your skin

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and that's that it's just sun protection so if you're wearing the sunglasses you're more likely

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to burn i heard that one i i've i've done i didn't understand why but i'm not sure i still do i do

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know that a lot of people are very against sun lotions most of them some lotions yes i mean

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is anything not a scam the actually going back to what you were saying about about the the light

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and stuff and being mesmerized and m vegas and all this kind of stuff it is very similar like

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when you think about and now i'm going to be a conspiracy theorist if you think about twitter

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right it's like praying it's like playing a fruit machine yeah it's like ching ching ching and one

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of the things that gets you about fruit machines i remember as a kid we used to play them in pubs

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it was ridiculous because you'd go down the pub with about seven quid wouldn't you and you probably

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put five of it in the fruit machine and you were gutted because they're like why did i do that but

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the reason you do it is because it feels like just around the corner something's going to happen

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you're going to win the money and that's the same with tiktok you never reach the the end of tiktok

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do you and the next one's going to be it's going to give me that i think it's good you know or

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whatever tiktok instagram whatever so i i suppose i wouldn't i wouldn't fall on it i wouldn't think

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of it as a conspiracy though i would think of it as the naturally occurring a natural occurrence

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from the incentives which exists?

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Well, you've got to ask yourself, what is a conspiracy?

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Well, exactly. That's a good point.

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Somebody has, you know, you and I conspired to set up this podcast, right?

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Right, yeah.

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To set up this event.

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So there was a, you know, the designers of TikTok or Twitter or whatever,

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they will have a boardroom and they will sit around and conspire

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to figure out how do we keep more eyeballs on our platform longer than the other one like that is

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their raison d'etre that they otherwise they're out of business and and you're totally right because

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how many times have you found yourself say you take your break or you've gone for a dump or

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something and you're on your twitter feed and you're scrolling through and you're scrolling

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through and scrolling through and you're like okay i've been scrolling for five minutes you

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didn't even realize nothing much more of interest so you pull down like let's refresh the screen

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Let's refresh the feet.

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Something must have happened now in the last five minutes.

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And now that is addictive behavior.

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And the best thing people can do just to test this theory that we're talking about is switch your phone to black and white mode.

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See how much time less you spend on your phone.

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Really?

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Yeah.

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Why?

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Because the mesmerizing flicker is not getting you.

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So it doesn't work in black and white?

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No.

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and you can even go a step further

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and download an app, it's free, called Twilight

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and then set that onto red light

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so I can show you now

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I always have Twilight on my phone

444
00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:14,780
I've got something on my laptop

445
00:32:14,780 --> 00:32:16,640
that makes it go orange in the evenings

446
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,720
but I always turn it off

447
00:32:18,720 --> 00:32:20,780
because it's so annoying

448
00:32:20,780 --> 00:32:22,840
because I can't see what I'm looking at

449
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:26,620
but I do, I find myself just switching it off every time

450
00:32:26,620 --> 00:32:28,280
I leave it running

451
00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:29,820
because I think it's probably good for me.

452
00:32:29,940 --> 00:32:34,140
But I don't know, looking at an orange screen really doesn't work for me.

453
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,820
Maybe I'm used to the bright light.

454
00:32:35,940 --> 00:32:36,400
You are.

455
00:32:36,700 --> 00:32:37,340
You are.

456
00:32:37,540 --> 00:32:38,740
You're definitely used to it.

457
00:32:39,180 --> 00:32:46,280
But, yeah, you'll find you'll spend less time on your devices if –

458
00:32:46,880 --> 00:32:48,060
try the black and white trick.

459
00:32:48,460 --> 00:32:50,040
Honestly, it's just a setting on your phone.

460
00:32:50,220 --> 00:32:51,980
On any phone, you'll be able to figure it out.

461
00:32:51,980 --> 00:32:56,840
Have you noticed you're getting any pushback from your listeners?

462
00:32:57,200 --> 00:32:57,320
Yeah.

463
00:32:57,740 --> 00:32:58,220
You are?

464
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:05,360
yeah are you because i don't know more importantly friends really yeah i was talking to someone about

465
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,280
this was it i might even have been talking to you about it i can't remember you talked to so many

466
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:16,020
bloody people but um but i'm yeah well was i talking to you about david ike yes yes right yeah

467
00:33:16,020 --> 00:33:22,680
okay he's a good example because i i'm probably going to be interviewing his son next month

468
00:33:22,680 --> 00:33:27,720
that's amazing well because he's into all that stuff now but but what's interesting about someone

469
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:33,820
like david ike for those of you that don't know he was a british footballer famous footballer who

470
00:33:33,820 --> 00:33:37,860
then became a commentator a football commentator did he actually play football yeah yeah yeah he

471
00:33:37,860 --> 00:33:43,000
was a good footballer mate really i have no clue no he was he was that's why he became the um

472
00:33:43,620 --> 00:33:49,420
actually don't quote me on it i'm pretty sure i'm not an aficionado on him but anyway he basically

473
00:33:49,420 --> 00:33:55,660
had some kind of an awakening experience in the 80s i think it was and because he was famous he

474
00:33:55,660 --> 00:33:59,560
went on the biggest talk show in the uk which was wogan do you remember terry wogan's show yes

475
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:07,180
and he basically said he was jesus come back to warn everyone uh and and he was wearing purple

476
00:34:07,180 --> 00:34:13,560
and he was he was basically completely ridiculed and laughed at on tv in the most terrible way

477
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:20,760
and but but i i actually i did take an interest in him at the time and i i bought his book because

478
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:26,060
i'm like when anyone does something like that you you've got like something's happening here what

479
00:34:26,060 --> 00:34:34,180
what what's going on what was the book called um robots rebellion okay and basically the book said

480
00:34:34,180 --> 00:34:40,080
that the book basically predicted everything that's happening now it it predict it but it but

481
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:46,320
it went a lot a lot further and said that the conspiracy the reason it's happening is because

482
00:34:46,320 --> 00:34:53,920
it's um our other dimensional entities who shapeshift between lizard forms and all this

483
00:34:53,920 --> 00:35:05,120
kind of stuff but the basics was a um a kind of mesh network prison type planet um which which is

484
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:12,100
pretty much i mean as far as i can tell is the the equivalent of it is um the kind of social

485
00:35:12,100 --> 00:35:20,100
credit system he he did predict all this and it was the mark of the beast was uh implanted um

486
00:35:20,100 --> 00:35:25,660
you know chips in your in your hand to do things which has happened your apple watch well no no

487
00:35:25,660 --> 00:35:29,160
actually there's no i interviewed someone the other day who's actually got a chip in his

488
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:34,200
thing to pay for things i know i know i know exactly right whatever it's up to them if they

489
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:39,880
want to do that but but um he did predict all this right and then he ended up writing hundreds

490
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:45,300
and hundreds of books um i think probably in the end he's probably written about 15 or 20 books i

491
00:35:45,300 --> 00:35:49,820
don't know and one of them he's really interesting because when you read as you start reading his

492
00:35:49,820 --> 00:35:56,220
books thick big things all about the rothschilds and secret societies and the masons and all this

493
00:35:56,220 --> 00:36:01,800
stuff and he was absolutely obsessed with researching all this stuff and um one of his

494
00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:08,060
books came out and he basically the front cover of it i remember it was called i am me i am free

495
00:36:08,060 --> 00:36:13,180
and it was and the front cover was him stark bollock naked standing there like this like the

496
00:36:13,180 --> 00:36:19,080
guy like the da vinci picture of the human yes and because i i just remember when i bought it

497
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:25,380
waterstones had put a sticker over his penis just so that you couldn't see it but what the reason he

498
00:36:25,380 --> 00:36:31,080
did it was and and he talked about this a lot in his other books he's like when he got so completely

499
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:37,480
ridiculed by everyone there was really nothing they could do to him and and the last thing was

500
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:42,060
look here I am completely naked come at me bro it's like what are you gonna how are you gonna

501
00:36:42,060 --> 00:36:47,660
ridicule me now this is the most ridiculous thing and you know it was kind of like a precursor to

502
00:36:47,660 --> 00:36:54,760
to cancelling people and stuff but anyway the reason I mentioned him is because he probably

503
00:36:54,760 --> 00:37:01,120
loses a hell of a lot of readers and listeners and people like that because he talks about the

504
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:03,480
lizard stuff and the, you know, blah, blah, blah.

505
00:37:03,820 --> 00:37:09,760
And I would say base the basics of what he talks about do appear to be true

506
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,720
of a car according to what I know.

507
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,740
So I'm wondering whether you not facing the same thing,

508
00:37:14,780 --> 00:37:18,300
because you're not going full lizard, but from where we were,

509
00:37:18,980 --> 00:37:22,100
your, your, your chemtrails and this and that,

510
00:37:22,180 --> 00:37:26,720
and the kind of memes that, that don't give people a good reputation.

511
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:29,500
I know, to be honest, chemtrails appears to be true, right?

512
00:37:29,500 --> 00:37:29,940
Yeah.

513
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:35,140
chemtrails used to be the oh my god it's like the it used to be a flat earth theory didn't it really

514
00:37:35,140 --> 00:37:41,900
and now people it's true right yes yeah it's true anyway before you but come on what about the

515
00:37:41,900 --> 00:37:50,040
pushback yeah so i was pulled into that rabbit hole uh again by by people i trusted other bitcoiners

516
00:37:50,040 --> 00:37:56,360
uh who i respected and um i'm like they must have been started they must have started talking to me

517
00:37:56,360 --> 00:38:02,940
about this two years ago i'm like yeah no guys i don't think there's anything there like you know

518
00:38:02,940 --> 00:38:08,440
just keep looking what was the what was the gateway drug um the gateway drug was my own eyes

519
00:38:08,440 --> 00:38:16,260
uh because when you know that that would that the way it was explained to me it's like well just

520
00:38:16,260 --> 00:38:23,720
what what do you remember as a kid and then think deeply about that and then look up at the sky and

521
00:38:23,720 --> 00:38:26,940
just for the next three months, just keep mental notes.

522
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:28,060
That's all I'm asking.

523
00:38:28,580 --> 00:38:30,380
And just have an open mind.

524
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:31,500
About chem shows.

525
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:31,860
Yeah.

526
00:38:33,020 --> 00:38:35,760
So I'm like, well, that's not much of an ask.

527
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,820
I think I owe these people that at the very least.

528
00:38:38,960 --> 00:38:42,300
You know, they're very solid friends of mine, people I respect.

529
00:38:43,220 --> 00:38:44,500
So I did.

530
00:38:45,240 --> 00:38:50,080
And what I kept seeing just wasn't adding up, wasn't making sense.

531
00:38:50,860 --> 00:38:53,060
And then you start digging into it.

532
00:38:53,060 --> 00:39:04,820
You start reading a few books about it, obviously, and doing a little bit of research and bumping up against just little truths.

533
00:39:05,540 --> 00:39:09,660
So what I remembered as a kid, you and I are around the same age.

534
00:39:09,940 --> 00:39:10,900
I was born in 76.

535
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:19,720
I remember you'd be out playing in the garden, especially in the summertime, and laying around, and you would see the planes fly over.

536
00:39:19,720 --> 00:39:26,400
and as a very young man, like eight year old, you know, that's the coolest thing. It's a vivid

537
00:39:26,400 --> 00:39:32,340
memory for me laying in the garden, watching jets fly over and seeing the tiny little white trails

538
00:39:32,340 --> 00:39:37,420
and just wondering, I wonder where that's going. I wonder who's on that aeroplane. Like, you know,

539
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:41,700
I wonder how high that is. Like, how is that even possible? All of these thoughts that would go

540
00:39:41,700 --> 00:39:48,980
through your mind as a young boy. So I vividly remember that. And now when I watch it, you still

541
00:39:48,980 --> 00:39:55,000
see those planes sometimes going over having the exact same thing tiny little line disappears after

542
00:39:55,000 --> 00:40:00,240
one or two seconds that's what i remember i'm not going crazy and then some days you wake up

543
00:40:00,240 --> 00:40:06,760
and you wake up and you open the curtains and there's just these lines crisscrossed all over

544
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:13,940
the sky you know okay i definitely don't fucking remember that shit but but people i always assumed

545
00:40:13,940 --> 00:40:19,580
that was to do with the atmospheric conditions but is but how can you say how can you prove it's not

546
00:40:19,580 --> 00:40:24,840
then well this is the thing you can't verify i can't go up and verify right i can't i can't fly

547
00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:29,980
up and and and even take air samples of that thing so it's it's one of these perfect little

548
00:40:29,980 --> 00:40:36,360
uh like psyops that could be run on us um yeah oh yeah that's just water vapor and exhaust fumes

549
00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:43,280
bro and ice crystals and you know it's uh it's very easy to to my my contention would be

550
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:50,860
how do you keep that a secret like what how how does every pilot if it's that many pilots they're

551
00:40:50,860 --> 00:40:55,900
not all in on it right no so how does it how does it how do you keep that a secret come on

552
00:40:55,900 --> 00:41:00,380
no well like basically it's a it's weather changing what what what people think it is

553
00:41:00,380 --> 00:41:05,300
or what people know it is right it's been reported just even in the mainstream media now right just

554
00:41:05,300 --> 00:41:11,220
recently and i did did you see it in the bbc and uh no okay well anybody listening now can just go

555
00:41:11,220 --> 00:41:20,540
to, if you just Google BBC, UK government plans to dim the sun, and you'll come up with

556
00:41:20,540 --> 00:41:25,060
a bunch of different articles. It's all over the mainstream media in the UK. I think it's

557
00:41:25,060 --> 00:41:36,300
even hitting other countries as well. So their rationale for why they're doing it is to block

558
00:41:36,300 --> 00:41:38,300
the sun, literally to dim the sun.

559
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:38,840
Why though?

560
00:41:39,180 --> 00:41:40,580
To save us all, Tim.

561
00:41:40,580 --> 00:41:47,720
from what from the climate crisis that we're all completely embroiled in and that we can't have the

562
00:41:47,720 --> 00:41:53,320
sun heat the planet by another two degrees because then all of the ice will melt and all the polar

563
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:57,740
bears will die and we all have a catastrophic flood and we're all going to die and to save humanity

564
00:41:57,740 --> 00:42:04,360
we're going to spray uh reflective particular into the stratosphere to reflect the sun and save us

565
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:09,580
all which which seems really weird complete lunacy it's like it straight out of it it's a

566
00:42:09,580 --> 00:42:13,580
script straight out of a james bond film and this is why people just shake their heads and think

567
00:42:13,580 --> 00:42:20,600
you're crazy when you talk about it but now it's like if there's even a video of bill gates

568
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:27,680
explaining why he's investing hundreds of millions of dollars into a company called silver linings

569
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:33,840
you can't make this shit up really a company called silver linings that hire private companies

570
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:39,420
to go up and do this and they there's a company in uh in the uk for the uk listeners called uh

571
00:42:39,420 --> 00:42:47,900
JetXL. And you can go to JetXL.com and watch or find them on YouTube and watch videos of them

572
00:42:47,900 --> 00:42:55,660
showing you how they've got two 737s with huge tanks inside. So inside where you would have

573
00:42:55,660 --> 00:43:00,900
general passenger seats, completely all ripped out, two massive tanks inside, and they're boasting

574
00:43:00,900 --> 00:43:06,380
about the technology. And they're saying the technology here, what we do is oil spill

575
00:43:06,380 --> 00:43:12,420
dispersant technology so if there's ever an oil spill in the sea you call us we'll get out there

576
00:43:12,420 --> 00:43:17,140
we can spray the chemicals on there and it breaks it all up that's great you're like how often do

577
00:43:17,140 --> 00:43:25,420
oil spills happen you got two seven three sevens just sitting idle in two different areas of the

578
00:43:25,420 --> 00:43:30,800
uk that's not a good business plan you and i both know how businesses work you've got to have that

579
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:37,120
thing in the air the whole time you watch their flight paths though i i'm i'm sure i'm sure you

580
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,520
must be able to because you i think you can watch everything can't you unless of course it is under

581
00:43:41,520 --> 00:43:50,180
a military kind of operation yeah i don't know i i i'm i'm still suspicious because i i i'm

582
00:43:50,180 --> 00:43:57,220
suspicious of a lot of those kind of conspiracies because i think how difficult it would be to hide

583
00:43:57,220 --> 00:44:03,380
to hide it yeah there's someone i mean people say people who say 9-11 was an inside job

584
00:44:03,380 --> 00:44:08,880
i can look at the videos and go yep that does look like loads of explosions happening all the

585
00:44:08,880 --> 00:44:15,440
way down the thing right um but how the hell do you keep that a secret how do you how do you implant

586
00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:21,460
all that stuff secretly and then blow it up it still be a secret i mean obviously nothing about

587
00:44:21,460 --> 00:44:26,880
9-11 makes sense and and the the worst one is the other building that just falls down out of

588
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:33,260
nowhere tower seven yeah which is which is still standing behind the bbc reporter when she's telling

589
00:44:33,260 --> 00:44:39,560
you see that bit i think is not important i don't i think that's a distraction that's that what but

590
00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:45,300
what's not a distraction is that building just fell down like it was being demolished and randomly

591
00:44:45,300 --> 00:44:51,420
yeah like nothing hit it nothing touched it nothing right okay it's almost my my theory would be they

592
00:44:51,420 --> 00:44:55,700
probably thought that the thing might topple like this or something and knock it and then they could

593
00:44:55,700 --> 00:45:01,080
do it at the same time or something you know but it's so that that is that i don't need anyone to

594
00:45:01,080 --> 00:45:06,480
to set to prove to me that that is weird and and i think when you look into it wasn't that where

595
00:45:06,480 --> 00:45:12,200
they held sort of like the records of i think there's some kind of pentagon yes or whatever

596
00:45:12,200 --> 00:45:17,800
something there but once again that could be a distraction what isn't a distraction is that

597
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:23,400
building just fell down like but it didn't just fall over or fall down it it felt like when you

598
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:27,900
demolish a building that's what happens it collapsed in on itself yes exactly right not

599
00:45:27,900 --> 00:45:35,020
nonsense you know but still and chemtrails is the same i still think how the hell do you

600
00:45:35,020 --> 00:45:41,140
how the hell do you keep that secret think about us trying to do a conspiracy right on that scale

601
00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:48,480
right how the how do you keep it how do you keep it quiet how seriously yeah how does not one person

602
00:45:48,480 --> 00:45:55,080
know one person who knows one person who who just says no this is what's happening you know

603
00:45:55,080 --> 00:46:01,420
and chemtrails seems like a really obvious one because it's um it's such a nutty idea i mean

604
00:46:01,420 --> 00:46:09,780
does it do people deny do the official channels deny that it exists or do they now say it exists

605
00:46:09,780 --> 00:46:15,520
it seems to we've got to this point now where they're adamant on getting out this story

606
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:21,040
across the whole world of how important it is to dim the sun.

607
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,900
And I don't know why, and this is only very, very recently,

608
00:46:25,420 --> 00:46:28,820
in the last three months that they've been pushing out.

609
00:46:30,300 --> 00:46:35,260
And so we have to be very careful because we're only ever told half-truths, right,

610
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:36,700
through the mainstream media.

611
00:46:36,700 --> 00:46:39,360
So what they're telling us isn't true.

612
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:42,300
There's still something else going on.

613
00:46:42,300 --> 00:46:57,840
If anybody wants to really dig into it there a book called Chemtrails Exposed and it in its second edition and it by a guy called Peter Kirby And I booked him for an interview and he actually being interviewed by Tucker Carlson very soon

614
00:46:57,900 --> 00:46:59,440
or is about to drop very soon.

615
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:01,100
Oh, right, so it's going quite mainstream.

616
00:47:01,180 --> 00:47:06,440
Yes, but he takes this all the way back to Project Paperclip

617
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:08,380
and Manhattan Project.

618
00:47:09,020 --> 00:47:12,160
When all of these scientists ended up in the U.S.,

619
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:14,360
for those that aren't aware of what Project Paperclip is,

620
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:21,520
the U.S. gathered together all of the top Nazi scientists and repatriated them for their safety,

621
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,200
actually for their safety, to the U.S.

622
00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,700
Because that meant then they wouldn't get caught up in the Nuremberg trials, right?

623
00:47:27,780 --> 00:47:29,200
So they were literally saved.

624
00:47:29,300 --> 00:47:31,940
They had their lives saved by the U.S. and by that government.

625
00:47:32,380 --> 00:47:38,520
Then they were placed and given whatever means they needed to carry on their research

626
00:47:38,520 --> 00:47:41,220
in whatever field of research that they were studying.

627
00:47:41,220 --> 00:47:47,280
So whether that's atomic bombs, rocket science, physiology, whatever.

628
00:47:48,300 --> 00:47:51,900
And remember niacin in our last episode?

629
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:53,080
Very well, yeah.

630
00:47:53,220 --> 00:47:57,420
Willard Krell, Dr. Willard Krell was brought across in Project Paperclip

631
00:47:57,420 --> 00:48:00,620
to continue his studies on niacin, which cured pellagra.

632
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,260
Pellagra is, you've never heard of it, nor have I,

633
00:48:03,740 --> 00:48:08,020
pellagra is eczema, dermatitis, intrafigo,

634
00:48:08,020 --> 00:48:10,540
all of these different names that they give the same thing

635
00:48:10,540 --> 00:48:13,640
because they can sell several creams to dandruff, all of it.

636
00:48:14,060 --> 00:48:17,860
Any kind of like skin associated disease, rashes, warts,

637
00:48:18,240 --> 00:48:21,480
is all foundationally pellagra.

638
00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,560
Pellagra is just completely wiped out

639
00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,880
if you just boost the body with vitamin B3,

640
00:48:28,020 --> 00:48:29,020
which is what niacin is,

641
00:48:29,100 --> 00:48:30,920
which is what Willard Krell's research was,

642
00:48:31,280 --> 00:48:32,760
which gets squashed.

643
00:48:32,940 --> 00:48:36,280
So we can have this whole business, you know,

644
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:39,020
spawn out of hiding the research.

645
00:48:39,020 --> 00:49:06,920
So what else were they doing? And what Peter Kirby starts uncovering, he calls it the military industrial education complex. And all four of these arms all working together. And there's a very famous clip of Lyndon B. Johnson giving a talk and address at a university. I can't remember which university, but he's in there and his cloak and his hat and whatever else, bit of cosplay. They love that over there.

646
00:49:06,920 --> 00:49:16,460
and telling everybody we need to figure out a way to control the cloud cover of the world.

647
00:49:16,460 --> 00:49:19,200
Because if we control the cloud cover, we control the world.

648
00:49:19,340 --> 00:49:23,120
So it's a military objective to control the weather.

649
00:49:23,620 --> 00:49:24,740
Like this is like...

650
00:49:24,740 --> 00:49:27,480
How do you control the world with cloud cover?

651
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:31,100
So I don't know because I'm not a lunatic.

652
00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:35,080
But what these guys, they have all of these researchers,

653
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:42,340
the top brains in the world figuring this out and that's when they discovered um harp h-a-a-r-p

654
00:49:42,340 --> 00:49:48,220
you've heard of that i have it's something to do with broadcasting waves yes something i don't

655
00:49:48,220 --> 00:49:56,280
know what it is so the first installation was uh was installed in uh alaska um there's a connection

656
00:49:56,280 --> 00:50:01,300
to a university i can't remember which one that that's why kirby talks about this uh you know

657
00:50:01,300 --> 00:50:02,900
these four pillars.

658
00:50:03,560 --> 00:50:06,680
And the researchers theorized,

659
00:50:07,280 --> 00:50:11,520
so that's another conspiracy, I suppose, isn't it, a theory.

660
00:50:11,940 --> 00:50:15,860
They theorized that if they could heat the ionosphere

661
00:50:15,860 --> 00:50:18,420
or perturb the ionosphere,

662
00:50:18,420 --> 00:50:24,320
they could potentially control the weather in some way, shape, or form,

663
00:50:24,460 --> 00:50:27,620
perhaps by redirecting the jet stream.

664
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:31,260
And so they started, obviously, building this kind of stuff.

665
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:32,460
Who wants to do that, though?

666
00:50:33,640 --> 00:50:34,480
Why do you want to do it?

667
00:50:34,940 --> 00:50:35,280
Why?

668
00:50:35,660 --> 00:50:37,040
Oh, it's an attack vector.

669
00:50:37,840 --> 00:50:40,620
Under national security, Tim, of course.

670
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:41,980
It's for your safety, always.

671
00:50:42,920 --> 00:50:44,280
So this is what they built.

672
00:50:44,780 --> 00:50:47,380
And, yeah, lo and behold, they figured out that, yeah,

673
00:50:47,380 --> 00:50:52,460
so in the ionosphere, you can just heat that thing with microwaves

674
00:50:52,460 --> 00:50:53,240
and radio waves.

675
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,920
Have you ever seen a picture of the HAARP facility in Alaska?

676
00:50:55,920 --> 00:51:02,720
it's weird af mate it's about like the size of and then again anyone listening just hit pause

677
00:51:02,720 --> 00:51:11,500
h-a-a-r-p installation hit images and you'll see it it's the most dastardly looking thing it's just

678
00:51:11,500 --> 00:51:21,840
this array of antennae uh in a great big kind of rectangular like football fields um sized uh

679
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:26,360
And it's just a dark thing to look at.

680
00:51:26,940 --> 00:51:31,540
And that obviously is supercharged with the electrical current,

681
00:51:31,780 --> 00:51:34,940
and then they can turn up the radio waves or the microwaves

682
00:51:34,940 --> 00:51:38,480
and just start perturbing the ionosphere.

683
00:51:39,500 --> 00:51:43,880
And testing and theorizing and testing hypotheses.

684
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,660
This thing is still live,

685
00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:50,500
and there are more HAARP installations all around the world

686
00:51:50,500 --> 00:51:54,620
because obviously research gets shared at the very top level with the right people.

687
00:51:55,360 --> 00:52:05,720
And under this idea of national security or one world governance, this is what they push out there.

688
00:52:05,980 --> 00:52:10,560
So is and this is where people are like, well, this is just some kind of evil plan.

689
00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:19,360
Well, is it an evil plan or is it just, you know, iteration on top of iteration, on top of breakthrough, on top of new hypothesis, on top of iteration, iteration?

690
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:29,500
So if we can do that, what if we had extra particulate up there that would even amplify that?

691
00:52:29,660 --> 00:52:30,580
And what would that be?

692
00:52:30,980 --> 00:52:36,160
So this is where Kirby theorizes, and I think he's probably right.

693
00:52:36,620 --> 00:52:39,040
He starts talking about coal fly ash.

694
00:52:40,180 --> 00:52:46,400
Coal fly ash is a byproduct of burning coal to produce electricity.

695
00:52:46,400 --> 00:52:52,040
So in the great big funnels that you'd see, everybody's seen those, and the smoke is billowing out at the top.

696
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:59,460
Further down those chimneys is a contraption that catches all of the soot, for want of a better word.

697
00:52:59,860 --> 00:53:02,280
And all of the soot then becomes a byproduct.

698
00:53:02,560 --> 00:53:03,980
So what do you do with that byproduct?

699
00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,040
Well, the best thing you can do is find a market for it.

700
00:53:07,460 --> 00:53:11,000
The best market for it for many decades was concrete.

701
00:53:11,480 --> 00:53:14,940
So it'd get mixed into concrete, and that's perfectly fine.

702
00:53:14,940 --> 00:53:20,040
But we're talking about a market worth hundreds of billions of dollars.

703
00:53:20,300 --> 00:53:21,740
So this isn't a game.

704
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:29,500
Like this is a real freaking business, a massive market and a floating market.

705
00:53:29,620 --> 00:53:32,480
And we'll even have derivatives on top of that market.

706
00:53:32,600 --> 00:53:35,380
This is like stuff we don't even think about.

707
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:43,440
And then, of course, if you've got too much of that stuff and it can't make it into all of the concrete, what are the other markets?

708
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:52,160
so the other markets that they've figured out was um to to uh mix it this is again peter kirby

709
00:53:52,160 --> 00:53:56,540
what i've learned from his book it gets mixed into the fuel mix which again you think no way

710
00:53:56,540 --> 00:54:01,560
in the world could they mix that in and i can't prove it i'm not a jet engineer i'm going on what

711
00:54:01,560 --> 00:54:06,960
i've researched through through peter kirby and his research and all of the papers and citations

712
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:12,920
that he puts at the end of each chapter and then that gets uh dumped into the air along with

713
00:54:12,920 --> 00:54:20,580
aluminium, barium and strontium, which must be byproducts of some other big industrial business.

714
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:30,280
I don't know. And that will obviously make the, in essence, that drops the ionosphere,

715
00:54:30,660 --> 00:54:37,540
because this stuff can be electrically charged quicker and more effectively. And now you're

716
00:54:37,540 --> 00:54:44,280
carrying more electrical charge so you even uh you've got an even better chance at perturbing

717
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:49,920
the uh the weather and mate when i was reading all of this stuff i'm like oh my god like

718
00:54:49,920 --> 00:54:58,680
like you like the cognitive dissonance that was ringing in my ears and what cognitive dissonance

719
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:05,800
is when you face new information everything that you believe to be true like you know this is why

720
00:55:05,800 --> 00:55:11,680
you have this like kind of visceral like no what are you talking about like this is complete and

721
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:18,220
utter nonsense uh i now actually enjoy those moments when i'm when i i i feel the bells go

722
00:55:18,220 --> 00:55:23,420
off now and that's more of a signal to me rather than like uh just like you know walk away from

723
00:55:23,420 --> 00:55:28,680
this person he's completely crazy i actually want to learn more well i mean these are like you say

724
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,020
these are doc this is a this guy's a bloody neurosurgeon you know it's kind of trust so

725
00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:35,180
Kirby is someone completely to cruise.

726
00:55:35,720 --> 00:55:38,140
So this, I'm glad you said that,

727
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,600
because it was Jack that unlocked me

728
00:55:40,600 --> 00:55:42,820
when he was talking about light on my podcast.

729
00:55:43,640 --> 00:55:45,500
And he said, well, there's,

730
00:55:47,060 --> 00:55:49,440
everybody knows there's like a global initiative

731
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,760
to get us all blocked away from as much sunlight as possible.

732
00:55:52,980 --> 00:55:54,420
I'm like, wait, wait, wait, Jack, stop.

733
00:55:55,180 --> 00:55:57,060
Are you talking about the lines in the sky right now?

734
00:55:57,500 --> 00:55:58,960
He's like, you're damn right I am.

735
00:55:59,060 --> 00:56:01,000
Like, what, you haven't seen those with your own eyes?

736
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,360
I'm like, oh my God.

737
00:56:03,020 --> 00:56:05,220
It's just crazy.

738
00:56:06,020 --> 00:56:06,860
Crazy stuff.

739
00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:07,720
It is.

740
00:56:07,720 --> 00:56:21,660
I mean I suppose I asking myself who thinks like that Right now this comes back to Dominic Cummings Okay you better explain who Dominic Cummings is

741
00:56:21,660 --> 00:56:26,860
He was the guy that helped, basically, Boris get elected.

742
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:29,560
And he's the Cambridge Analytica guy.

743
00:56:30,920 --> 00:56:32,840
I thought he worked for the government.

744
00:56:33,040 --> 00:56:35,140
Well, he worked for the government, but he contracted.

745
00:56:35,900 --> 00:56:38,520
As far as I'm aware, and again, people, please fact-check,

746
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:39,560
I don't think he's an MP.

747
00:56:39,720 --> 00:56:40,360
I don't think he's ever been a politician.

748
00:56:40,360 --> 00:56:41,040
No, no, yeah.

749
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:43,820
A bit of an Alistair Campbell type.

750
00:56:44,460 --> 00:56:44,740
Right.

751
00:56:45,080 --> 00:56:45,680
Well, you know what I mean?

752
00:56:46,100 --> 00:56:47,640
Not a politician, but works.

753
00:56:47,860 --> 00:56:48,220
Yes.

754
00:56:48,460 --> 00:56:50,980
He's a PR guy or whatever.

755
00:56:51,260 --> 00:56:51,980
All right, whatever.

756
00:56:52,220 --> 00:56:53,720
So do you remember the Cambridge and the...

757
00:56:53,720 --> 00:56:54,660
You remember Brexit,

758
00:56:54,660 --> 00:57:00,080
how the country was just divided perfectly 50-50 on the whole vote,

759
00:57:00,340 --> 00:57:03,260
and it was the grey vote versus the young vote,

760
00:57:03,380 --> 00:57:05,480
and this and the other thing, and divided families.

761
00:57:05,820 --> 00:57:07,180
And this is back to the algorithms.

762
00:57:07,180 --> 00:57:13,020
This is what Cambridge Analytica were doing primarily through Facebook because Facebook was still the big thing back in.

763
00:57:13,580 --> 00:57:14,780
Facebook commissioned them, right?

764
00:57:14,940 --> 00:57:15,060
Yeah.

765
00:57:15,220 --> 00:57:15,400
Yeah.

766
00:57:15,460 --> 00:57:21,280
They commissioned them to basically do some stuff to steer people in a certain direction.

767
00:57:21,280 --> 00:57:23,580
And that was all masterminded by Cummings.

768
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:25,260
Social engineering, do they call that?

769
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:26,200
Yes, social engineering.

770
00:57:26,740 --> 00:57:36,760
And this was all masterminded by Cummings, which was very well documented by Carol Cadwalader, who was the reporter at The Guardian at the time that released all of this data.

771
00:57:36,760 --> 00:57:39,520
Was it his company, Cummings' company?

772
00:57:39,700 --> 00:57:39,880
No.

773
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:42,420
But who did he work for?

774
00:57:42,520 --> 00:57:44,060
Them or for the...

775
00:57:44,060 --> 00:57:45,440
Was he working for the government?

776
00:57:45,520 --> 00:57:46,580
Working for the government.

777
00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:47,460
But to...

778
00:57:47,460 --> 00:57:49,700
And he commissioned Cambridge Analytica.

779
00:57:49,700 --> 00:57:50,900
What was it called in COVID?

780
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:51,800
Like the nudge unit.

781
00:57:52,260 --> 00:57:54,020
So think of like the original nudge unit.

782
00:57:54,400 --> 00:57:57,140
So the government are looking for a certain outcome,

783
00:57:57,600 --> 00:58:00,480
i.e. Brexit, but they want to get...

784
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,000
Well, they were looking for not Brexit, right?

785
00:58:03,220 --> 00:58:04,400
Well, nobody knew, did they?

786
00:58:04,400 --> 00:58:06,660
Because he was saying one thing and doing the other.

787
00:58:06,760 --> 00:58:11,800
Really? Boris, do you remember? He was flip flopping. Oh, yeah, no, you're right. Gosh,

788
00:58:12,140 --> 00:58:18,960
I'm thinking, oh, yeah. God knows. So it's so long ago, doesn't it? Yes, exactly. So what do they

789
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:23,720
want? If the outcome is that they let's say they want Brexit, right? The best outcome they could

790
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:30,000
ever get is a 49 51% split, because that keeps you and I divided. And if you and I divided with

791
00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:35,280
all of our families and all of our communities, that means we're in fighting against each other

792
00:58:35,280 --> 00:58:37,500
and not looking up to the actual top.

793
00:58:37,900 --> 00:58:40,100
And everyone is begging the actual top to say,

794
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:42,740
oh, just shut those people up and don't let it happen.

795
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:44,400
We just need to get someone else in

796
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,300
and then we'll all be fine again and blah, blah, blah.

797
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,180
So perfect.

798
00:58:48,900 --> 00:58:49,640
That's what they got.

799
00:58:50,320 --> 00:58:55,940
Now, Cummings then was found to have orchestrated all of this.

800
00:58:55,940 --> 00:58:59,960
And he was even, what do they call it, deposition?

801
00:59:00,140 --> 00:59:03,060
I think he had to face the court and answer all of this

802
00:59:03,060 --> 00:59:04,800
through Cadwallader's work.

803
00:59:05,280 --> 00:59:15,840
And then kind of disappeared and reappeared and was funded to found ARIA, which was his brainchild.

804
00:59:16,580 --> 00:59:19,460
ARIA stands for Advanced Research Institute.

805
00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:22,360
I can't remember the last A.

806
00:59:23,140 --> 00:59:30,280
But it was modeled on DARPA in the U.S., which is the defense kind of black ops.

807
00:59:30,420 --> 00:59:31,180
Intelligence agency.

808
00:59:31,180 --> 00:59:35,520
The intelligence agency, yes, that does all of this weather control stuff.

809
00:59:35,700 --> 00:59:39,300
Like, that's the kind of stuff that they would be embroiled with.

810
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:46,700
So Cummings wanted the equivalent in the UK, and ARIA is the acronym for that.

811
00:59:46,700 --> 00:59:48,920
Again, people, please double-check this.

812
00:59:49,120 --> 00:59:51,340
A-R-I-A, Dominic Cummings.

813
00:59:51,460 --> 00:59:52,520
You'll get a lot of answers.

814
00:59:53,300 --> 00:59:55,700
He was funded with £800 million.

815
00:59:56,760 --> 00:59:59,200
This is not a governmental organisation.

816
00:59:59,460 --> 01:00:00,720
Who was it? Peter Thiel.

817
01:00:01,180 --> 01:00:02,060
Who funded it?

818
01:00:02,340 --> 01:00:02,740
Who?

819
01:00:04,140 --> 01:00:07,920
Boris Johnson and Rishi Sunak when he was Chancellor of the Exchequer.

820
01:00:08,460 --> 01:00:10,360
But with taxpayer money?

821
01:00:10,440 --> 01:00:10,700
Yes.

822
01:00:10,980 --> 01:00:11,300
Right.

823
01:00:11,740 --> 01:00:13,480
But it's not a government organisation.

824
01:00:14,160 --> 01:00:15,940
It has very little oversight.

825
01:00:17,160 --> 01:00:20,580
It seems like it was a bit of a sweetener to Cummings.

826
01:00:21,260 --> 01:00:21,780
Okay.

827
01:00:21,780 --> 01:00:25,240
If you're conspiratorially minded.

828
01:00:25,560 --> 01:00:26,080
Which you are.

829
01:00:26,260 --> 01:00:28,980
Which I just like to say I'm joining the dots.

830
01:00:28,980 --> 01:00:37,180
so now how do we find out what area are up to well you can't you you go to their website and

831
01:00:37,180 --> 01:00:43,740
it's very airy fairy and this that and the other thing whatever the just recently within the last

832
01:00:43,740 --> 01:00:49,560
six months and we're recording what now august 2025 uh there was a huge petition that went around

833
01:00:49,560 --> 01:00:55,980
the uk and that just it was simply named ban all forms of geoengineering in the united kingdom

834
01:00:55,980 --> 01:01:03,620
if you get 10,000 signatures on any of these petitions, it has to, there's two levels.

835
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:10,500
It has to be acknowledged. 100,000, it has to be discussed or debated in Parliament. It has to go

836
01:01:10,500 --> 01:01:18,260
to the floor. So it flew past 100,000 in a matter of, I think it was under a week. So I was watching

837
01:01:18,260 --> 01:01:25,960
this very closely, and I wanted to see the kind of questions that were being asked. And they had

838
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:31,720
the usual goons in there and people did ask a question and I think it was Miliband that was

839
01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:38,300
up there kind of batting it back. One person that was grilling Miliband about it was like,

840
01:01:38,360 --> 01:01:42,920
so wait a minute, one second, you're going to tell me that we've all got to start like giving up

841
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:50,360
farmland to solar farms so we can get more energy but at the same time you're attempting to block

842
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:55,800
the sun. Like, you know, what are you actually doing? And you'll find that on YouTube as well.

843
01:01:55,960 --> 01:02:01,300
but the official response after from the government,

844
01:02:02,540 --> 01:02:04,040
when you went on to go to the,

845
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:06,620
I'll send you the link so you can put in the show notes,

846
01:02:06,980 --> 01:02:08,460
you go to the petition page,

847
01:02:08,760 --> 01:02:11,420
and then a petition page has the official response from the government,

848
01:02:11,540 --> 01:02:12,680
and you have to expand it,

849
01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:14,460
and you read it all the way through,

850
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:16,940
and we deny that this is going on,

851
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:19,000
this isn't going on, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah,

852
01:02:19,000 --> 01:02:22,520
and then the final paragraph is,

853
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,340
well, that isn't to say that ARIA,

854
01:02:25,340 --> 01:02:42,320
A-R-I-A, we acknowledge the fact that ARIA are running geoengineering projects under their mandate or this, that, and the other thing, whatever, to cool the planet.

855
01:02:43,900 --> 01:02:44,160
Really?

856
01:02:44,160 --> 01:03:00,920
No way. And then there is more. And then you'll find actually there was 57 million pounds of the ARIA budget attributed to running projects to block the sun in the UK.

857
01:03:01,180 --> 01:03:05,320
And this is documented in the BBC and all of the other newspapers.

858
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:13,000
And this is where it just starts getting really freaking crazy because you're like, what? These lunatics actually believe.

859
01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:19,480
I don't believe this tech works. I think it's absolute, complete and utter nonsensical.

860
01:03:19,980 --> 01:03:23,860
Because what I think actually happens, it warms the planet. Because as you know, if there's cloud

861
01:03:23,860 --> 01:03:30,000
cover, it's warmer on the ground than when it isn't. When you've got a really beautiful, dark,

862
01:03:30,180 --> 01:03:35,500
starry sky, it's cold outside. Everybody knows that. You know it. You've sat under the stars

863
01:03:35,500 --> 01:03:40,740
right next to your campfire. That's the way it works. So again, what they're telling us doesn't

864
01:03:40,740 --> 01:03:46,840
make any sense at all. But what you'll see is when you see these, these crisscross patterns appear

865
01:03:46,840 --> 01:03:50,860
over the sky, and now we've talked about this and hopefully listeners listening to it,

866
01:03:51,260 --> 01:03:56,400
they might start seeing this over the next two or three months. What's going to happen is slowly

867
01:03:56,400 --> 01:04:03,320
over the next six hours or so, they're going to slowly spread. And that's going to cause like this,

868
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:08,500
like a weird silver lining, right? We're back to that. It doesn't make clouds then. It doesn't

869
01:04:08,500 --> 01:04:10,480
It just creates some invisible barrier there.

870
01:04:10,780 --> 01:04:11,260
Exactly.

871
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:14,640
And when you see it, you're like, huh, yeah.

872
01:04:14,900 --> 01:04:16,900
I just thought that was overcast.

873
01:04:17,060 --> 01:04:18,440
And this is the thing.

874
01:04:18,520 --> 01:04:20,000
You just think it's overcast.

875
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:24,640
I don't understand, though, why that's not being made public.

876
01:04:24,980 --> 01:04:26,660
Because it's a climate change thing.

877
01:04:27,040 --> 01:04:30,000
The government love bloody climate change.

878
01:04:30,320 --> 01:04:32,540
Why aren't they saying we're doing all this work to...

879
01:04:32,540 --> 01:04:33,040
For yourself.

880
01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:33,420
Yeah.

881
01:04:33,700 --> 01:04:35,180
Why are they only just saying it now?

882
01:04:35,180 --> 01:04:36,040
Oh, are they saying that?

883
01:04:36,040 --> 01:04:36,840
That's what they're saying now.

884
01:04:36,880 --> 01:04:37,320
Oh, right.

885
01:04:37,520 --> 01:04:38,100
That's what they're saying.

886
01:04:38,100 --> 01:04:46,640
What they're saying now is we are actively pursuing ways to reflect the sun.

887
01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,320
So this is only one method.

888
01:04:49,420 --> 01:04:53,100
The other method they do is called marine cloud brightening,

889
01:04:53,100 --> 01:04:58,220
where they'll have boats, huge boats go out with great big tanks

890
01:04:58,220 --> 01:05:04,000
and just blow like fake cloud up into the atmosphere.

891
01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,320
And I don't know if you've ever watched, there's a clip,

892
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:12,240
just Jeremy Clarkson, NASA weather control.

893
01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:14,400
And it's a clip from the early 90s

894
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:15,460
where he does a documentary

895
01:05:15,460 --> 01:05:18,620
on how NASA are creating rain clouds

896
01:05:18,620 --> 01:05:20,400
with this exact technology

897
01:05:20,400 --> 01:05:22,540
that they use out on boats,

898
01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:24,560
marine cloud brightening technology

899
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,920
in order to reflect the sun

900
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:27,960
back away from the planet.

901
01:05:28,360 --> 01:05:30,000
So they find all of these clever ways

902
01:05:30,000 --> 01:05:31,900
to like deliver it to the public

903
01:05:31,900 --> 01:05:45,380
without actually telling you you know exactly what going on But what the conspiracy there though What the real Tim Foyle hat conspiracy Because you could argue that that just stupid people

904
01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:48,040
stupid scientists, stupid government people.

905
01:05:48,040 --> 01:05:50,000
With all of this stuff, follow the money.

906
01:05:51,360 --> 01:05:53,260
Now most people are probably thinking,

907
01:05:53,420 --> 01:05:56,860
oh, he's going to say, yeah, so we all get dumbed down

908
01:05:56,860 --> 01:05:58,040
and they can control us.

909
01:05:58,540 --> 01:05:59,280
Yeah, that's what I mean.

910
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,160
It's the aliens and whatever else.

911
01:06:02,500 --> 01:06:07,120
There is an element of that to it because you know, as anybody knows listening to this,

912
01:06:07,200 --> 01:06:12,180
do you feel better on a bright, sunny, beautiful day than you do if it's just like overcast

913
01:06:12,180 --> 01:06:13,660
and a little bit drizzly and whatever else.

914
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:18,740
But if you follow the money, and again, reading Kirby's book,

915
01:06:19,000 --> 01:06:23,860
took me down these rabbit holes, we are talking hundreds of billions of dollars.

916
01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:28,600
If you can control the weather, first of all, the Iranian president,

917
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:45,240
The Iranian president very, very famously, I think he might have been unalived in a plane crash or something since, but he very famously said something along the lines of the United States of America have stolen our rainwater.

918
01:06:46,100 --> 01:06:47,860
So again, please go and check that.

919
01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:52,180
You just Google that and you'll find it very widely reported.

920
01:06:52,800 --> 01:06:55,940
So it brings us back to weather warfare.

921
01:06:55,940 --> 01:07:00,760
But if you follow the money as well, you have big ag, right?

922
01:07:01,400 --> 01:07:05,060
Huge amounts of money tied up in big ag.

923
01:07:05,420 --> 01:07:12,120
You're talking vast amounts of soybean crops, corn crops, wheat crops, and whatever.

924
01:07:12,320 --> 01:07:13,120
So what do they need?

925
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,720
Well, they need water, and they need sunlight.

926
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:24,080
So why would that be of interest if somebody could control the outcome of another country's crop or harvest?

927
01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:30,500
now you can see where all of this lunacy starts driving we're we're doing it to ourselves though

928
01:07:30,500 --> 01:07:36,980
you were talking about you know we're we're we're trying to deflect the sun but and that's obviously

929
01:07:36,980 --> 01:07:42,260
having an effect on our crops as well because crops need sun 100 years so but so where's so

930
01:07:42,260 --> 01:07:48,840
i'm saying where's the conspiracy is the conspiracy just some people in government trying to do what's

931
01:07:48,840 --> 01:07:54,860
right or what they think's right or is it is it the lizard people you know or whatever no i i think

932
01:07:54,860 --> 01:08:00,540
it's uh i think it's people uh if you take it all the way back again look i i can't answer you

933
01:08:00,540 --> 01:08:05,940
because it is so complex and it is so layered and this is with decades and decades into this

934
01:08:05,940 --> 01:08:11,580
uh i think there's a few things going on i think you have the um what i just explained follow the

935
01:08:11,580 --> 01:08:15,740
money and there's another element to follow the money and i didn't even know this and i worked in

936
01:08:15,740 --> 01:08:20,280
financial markets and I saw Enron go down. Most people listening to this are going to remember

937
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:27,280
the collapse of Enron. Enron were running a weather derivatives market. I had no idea this

938
01:08:27,280 --> 01:08:32,100
existed. Weather derivatives? Weather derivatives. Literally betting on what's going to happen.

939
01:08:32,320 --> 01:08:39,200
You've got Wall Street betting on the weather. And the weather derivatives are directly correlated

940
01:08:39,200 --> 01:08:41,360
to commodity derivatives.

941
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:44,820
So you've got the huge commodity markets.

942
01:08:45,100 --> 01:08:46,360
You remember the old videos,

943
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:47,980
trading places you've probably watched,

944
01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:50,040
whether you're in the wheat pit

945
01:08:50,040 --> 01:08:51,700
or you're in the corn pit or whatever else.

946
01:08:51,860 --> 01:08:53,960
We are talking hundreds of billions of dollars

947
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:54,700
of this market,

948
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:56,040
hundreds of billions of dollars.

949
01:08:56,180 --> 01:08:58,000
Now, if you are a company

950
01:08:58,000 --> 01:09:00,060
that has an open position

951
01:09:00,060 --> 01:09:02,600
on a particular crop in a particular place,

952
01:09:02,900 --> 01:09:04,360
and that's going to be like,

953
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:06,760
you know, very much in your interest

954
01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,520
if it should happen to not rain in that place for the next two months,

955
01:09:10,800 --> 01:09:14,320
would you be incentivized to pay a company,

956
01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:16,740
a cloud seeding company or something or similar,

957
01:09:16,740 --> 01:09:21,080
a weather control company to fly these missions over there?

958
01:09:21,460 --> 01:09:24,360
Now, coming back to the Bitcoiners, it took me down this rabbit hole.

959
01:09:24,440 --> 01:09:28,140
One of them was South African and Rick the Free, big shout out.

960
01:09:28,660 --> 01:09:29,380
Rick the Freak.

961
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:30,260
The Free.

962
01:09:30,660 --> 01:09:31,820
Rick the Free, okay.

963
01:09:32,140 --> 01:09:36,440
So he told me he grew up in a very rural area.

964
01:09:36,440 --> 01:09:41,340
in South Africa and around farmers all the time.

965
01:09:42,060 --> 01:09:44,380
And it was his father that explained to him

966
01:09:44,380 --> 01:09:47,620
that the insurance and reinsurance industry,

967
01:09:47,700 --> 01:09:49,120
now we're following the money again,

968
01:09:49,820 --> 01:09:53,820
they would pay companies, private companies,

969
01:09:54,460 --> 01:09:56,800
to perform cloud seeding operations

970
01:09:56,800 --> 01:10:01,140
in certain parts of the country

971
01:10:01,140 --> 01:10:04,020
to make sure there was rain on the crops

972
01:10:04,020 --> 01:10:05,240
that they had insured

973
01:10:05,240 --> 01:10:08,820
so they wouldn't have to pay out the premium if the crops failed.

974
01:10:10,060 --> 01:10:10,920
Fucking hell.

975
01:10:11,440 --> 01:10:14,900
Like, you see how the dominoes start falling.

976
01:10:15,640 --> 01:10:20,720
So when Enron collapsed, I can't remember who bought that whole business out.

977
01:10:21,300 --> 01:10:24,900
It was probably one of the big, like JP Morgan, I don't know, whatever.

978
01:10:24,900 --> 01:10:28,740
But they took over that whole weather derivative market.

979
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:34,740
So, like I said, you can't pin it on one thing.

980
01:10:35,240 --> 01:10:39,600
but that's not to say it isn't happening.

981
01:10:40,820 --> 01:10:42,300
And I just hope...

982
01:10:42,300 --> 01:10:46,860
Individually, you can see these things are obviously happening

983
01:10:46,860 --> 01:10:48,760
or whatever, if you check the sources.

984
01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:53,960
I think the bit where a lot of people trip up is why they're happening.

985
01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:58,960
And the conspiracy side of it,

986
01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:02,500
I think the main conspiracy that ties all these things together

987
01:11:02,500 --> 01:11:06,160
is there's a secret government running the world, isn't there?

988
01:11:06,180 --> 01:11:09,020
That's the kind of, that's the big boss one.

989
01:11:09,820 --> 01:11:14,280
And I don't know what I think about it.

990
01:11:14,380 --> 01:11:17,480
I kind of, because I'm always going to, I'm trying to make,

991
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:20,240
I'm trying to think of it in terms of incentives.

992
01:11:21,440 --> 01:11:24,340
Like, and I, you know, that whole secret societies

993
01:11:24,340 --> 01:11:26,160
and people running the world thing,

994
01:11:26,360 --> 01:11:29,640
it obviously makes sense because within your friend group,

995
01:11:29,700 --> 01:11:30,720
you do a similar thing.

996
01:11:30,720 --> 01:11:32,440
Like we'll say we're all Bitcoiners.

997
01:11:32,500 --> 01:11:38,640
and you say your daughter needs a job and someone else goes oh yeah you know i'll sort you out mate

998
01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:43,060
like you know that happens on on our level of course so that's going to happen at every level

999
01:11:43,060 --> 01:11:48,860
that's going to happen at the trillionaire level and the trillionaires have access to a lot of more

1000
01:11:48,860 --> 01:11:56,200
of everything than we do so if a trillionaire wants to do something really dustedly they probably can

1001
01:11:56,200 --> 01:12:01,520
so and so and i could see that that's not a conspiracy that's a that's people doing business

1002
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:11,460
And I often think that a lot of very wealthy and powerful people spend a lot of their days conspiring to maintain a powerful position.

1003
01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:14,520
And that's kind of, it's like risk analysis.

1004
01:12:15,400 --> 01:12:24,980
It's like, what, you know, what do we do to, and one of those things might well be keeping people oppressed.

1005
01:12:25,460 --> 01:12:30,040
Because if you're wealthy, the one thing that really gets in your way is people, isn't it?

1006
01:12:30,040 --> 01:12:36,500
like you can isolate yourself to a degree but we all know what's all know what happens when when

1007
01:12:36,500 --> 01:12:43,140
people get angry they mob together and they tend to kill or they tend to go after the people that

1008
01:12:43,140 --> 01:12:48,920
they think are the ones who have got everything you know yeah so it's just like risk risk analysis

1009
01:12:48,920 --> 01:12:55,180
you know it's like right let's in order to maintain these positions of of privilege i suppose i don't

1010
01:12:55,180 --> 01:12:58,260
And how do you do that through monopolization, right?

1011
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:02,800
So you crush as much of the competition that you possibly can.

1012
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:03,440
Yeah.

1013
01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,440
And so that's basically crony capitalism.

1014
01:13:06,640 --> 01:13:08,360
Is that exactly what you just explained?

1015
01:13:08,680 --> 01:13:08,880
Yeah.

1016
01:13:09,380 --> 01:13:12,060
But the thing where I actually,

1017
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,720
the thing that a lot of people are interested in,

1018
01:13:14,740 --> 01:13:17,260
and I am actually, if I'm honest, really interested in is,

1019
01:13:17,880 --> 01:13:21,820
the other stuff, the kind of the Alex Jones stuff.

1020
01:13:21,820 --> 01:13:28,280
because interestingly you know Alex Jones is an interesting character right we all know he's he's

1021
01:13:28,280 --> 01:13:34,340
for a long time he was considered completely crazy but there was a big signal that happened

1022
01:13:34,340 --> 01:13:38,580
in the world that made me realize that possibly he's not as crazy as a thing and that was when

1023
01:13:38,580 --> 01:13:46,440
he got cancelled like why do you cancel someone that crazy like it seems illogical you're basically

1024
01:13:46,440 --> 01:13:52,440
almost alluding to the fact that he's telling the truth right and obviously you know a lot of what

1025
01:13:52,440 --> 01:13:59,460
alex jones says is true he's a bit like david ike the same a lot of what he says is kind of provably

1026
01:13:59,460 --> 01:14:06,200
true where they both fall down but actually where they both agree as well is that the people running

1027
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:12,980
it i mean alex jones in a similar way he says it's interdimensional beings you know which is

1028
01:14:12,980 --> 01:14:19,780
no it's actually what the same as what um you know and then so the big boss is like and even

1029
01:14:19,780 --> 01:14:26,540
like tucker carlson now i mean tucker carlson's a i suppose what you would call a legit journalist

1030
01:14:26,540 --> 01:14:32,480
formally at least and he said i heard i heard him say the other day it's a battle between

1031
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:37,280
good and evil in a very spiritual sense and he said he said i don't need to know any more than

1032
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:41,600
that all I know is it's a spiritual battle which is kind of like I think

1033
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:46,160
exactly the same thing that David Ike's been saying for a long time and that's

1034
01:14:46,160 --> 01:14:50,600
the kind of big boss conspiracy I think the one that when you when you no matter

1035
01:14:50,600 --> 01:14:54,740
what you look at because all these things individually like you say you can

1036
01:14:54,740 --> 01:14:58,460
analyze and say yeah that's true I've seen that you know we can prove that but

1037
01:14:58,460 --> 01:14:59,980
the one thing it's very hard

1038
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:11,000
to prove is is it interdimensional beings cause you know creating a matrix that keeps us you know

1039
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:17,660
keeps us in the simulation or whatever yeah yeah i've not gone down those rabbit holes mate um

1040
01:15:17,660 --> 01:15:22,380
they've got those ones to come yeah do you know what the best one is right go on do you know

1041
01:15:22,380 --> 01:15:28,820
this is this is just there's a there's a bit of old footage on on the internet of um

1042
01:15:28,820 --> 01:15:38,160
there's a guy who worked at area 51 lazar uh what's his name um he's he's one of the only real

1043
01:15:38,160 --> 01:15:47,140
proven defectors from area 51 you know area 51 is and oh i can't remember i i could it says her

1044
01:15:47,140 --> 01:15:54,600
name's got a z in it i'm sure of it anyway um and he was being interviewed and it's pretty grainy

1045
01:15:54,600 --> 01:15:59,780
footage it's probably from the 80s or 90s i don't know and he was being pushed on something because

1046
01:15:59,780 --> 01:16:05,960
he said something along the lines of look i've seen this classified document and he said but i

1047
01:16:05,960 --> 01:16:09,500
can't even tell you it's just so ridiculous you know you're just going to say i'm absolutely crazy

1048
01:16:09,500 --> 01:16:13,720
and i'm not going to say anyway and he kind of tries to brush it aside and this bloke pins him

1049
01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:18,860
on it and he says all right i'll tell you but just realize this right i'm telling you this in pure

1050
01:16:18,860 --> 01:16:28,600
truth but you're going to tell me i'm crazy and he said that this document said that it's extremely

1051
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:37,520
classified said that all religions basically had been invented in order to try and keep people's

1052
01:16:37,520 --> 01:16:44,380
bodies in good condition i don't kill don't maim don't fight or whatever but they were creating a

1053
01:16:44,380 --> 01:16:51,760
moral framework to try and protect human bodies because humans were basically just vessels for

1054
01:16:51,760 --> 01:16:58,260
souls being so they were being used as a sort of like holding ground so we are being used as a

1055
01:16:58,260 --> 01:17:05,320
holding ground for our soul and our soul is some very important thing that someone else is basically

1056
01:17:05,320 --> 01:17:10,720
kind of like farming right which is when you look at the alex jones stuff the david ike stuff

1057
01:17:10,720 --> 01:17:18,080
it's kind of the same thing and this was this was a guy an absolutely normal scientist type guy the

1058
01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:23,700
guy that that he also broke the story about like them having sort of alien technology and all this

1059
01:17:23,700 --> 01:17:29,660
kind of stuff but there's probably i hate to say it but there might well be some truth in it

1060
01:17:29,660 --> 01:17:54,420
I've got absolutely no idea. All I know is that many things that used to be completely outlandish are now absolutely provably true. And so why wouldn't the next one? And also, many of the things that we now talk about, like the fact that there's a genuinely large number of very reputable people who say we're living in a simulation.

1061
01:17:54,420 --> 01:18:00,260
you know like it's not it's not crazy to sit there and debate whether or not this is a simulation

1062
01:18:00,260 --> 01:18:07,680
you know this is now normal for people now either that's a psyop and that's all there to confuse us

1063
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:12,840
and to because it does when you go into all this stuff it does have a bit of a numbing effect on

1064
01:18:12,840 --> 01:18:17,300
you doesn't it because it's like you talking to me about all this stuff i'm like by the end of it

1065
01:18:17,300 --> 01:18:21,560
i'm like well yeah maybe it's true what what am i going to do about it you know what am i going to

1066
01:18:21,560 --> 01:18:27,480
about chemtrails what am i going to do about this cloud seeding i don't know you know but but yeah

1067
01:18:27,480 --> 01:18:34,620
my money if i if i'm truly honest deep down is on the is on the interdimensional stuff there you go

1068
01:18:34,620 --> 01:18:40,320
i've said it love it mate but but like i will know i won't i will never pursue it with my whole i bit

1069
01:18:40,320 --> 01:18:45,660
like i i think that's probably true but why why bother pursuing i'm just going to carry on living

1070
01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:51,640
my life there's not there's not much i feel like worth doing but i do i do believe in that i do

1071
01:18:51,640 --> 01:18:58,960
believe in a spiritual aspect of everything and i do believe that um in the same way that people

1072
01:18:58,960 --> 01:19:07,900
oppress each other here i think as above so below or it's happening everywhere this battle is this

1073
01:19:07,900 --> 01:19:15,880
battle of power of freedom versus control happens everywhere and and when you do when you see the

1074
01:19:15,880 --> 01:19:24,000
cloud seeding stuff yeah sure it's like it's it's the last kind of end of the tentacle of of control

1075
01:19:24,000 --> 01:19:30,400
you know possibly it's that same force trying to control there's i think at least people like you

1076
01:19:30,400 --> 01:19:36,900
and me we we we're the we're the freedom people really we we want freedom for ourselves and

1077
01:19:36,900 --> 01:19:41,920
everyone we can see but there there are people who are the complete opposite of that and i've met

1078
01:19:41,920 --> 01:19:48,320
i've met some of them they don't they want to control you it's an an a strong and as strong an

1079
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:55,400
urge as me wanting you to live free and have the best time is as strong that the urge to do the

1080
01:19:55,400 --> 01:20:02,520
complete opposite and it's probably the cycle of life there it's a yin and yang we're always going

1081
01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:09,020
to be fighting that battle um you know we're probably i don't know maybe i'm that's it now

1082
01:20:09,020 --> 01:20:17,700
give us those glasses mate but no i mean i i would if i would it's hard it's not that i would

1083
01:20:17,700 --> 01:20:23,980
wholeheartedly you know advocate for any of this stuff but if i was if you gave me the option to

1084
01:20:23,980 --> 01:20:30,880
bet on it i would bet that that's true you know but but you know it would be it would just be

1085
01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:36,340
it'd be like i would i would i would make a bet i wouldn't make a large bet on it i wouldn't lose

1086
01:20:36,340 --> 01:20:42,980
all my money on it but but it but it's so we're just souls running around in our in our meat suits

1087
01:20:42,980 --> 01:20:49,760
right that's uh basically what you're saying and i am well yeah but what's interesting about

1088
01:20:49,760 --> 01:21:00,460
a theory like that is when you look back at um religious texts you know most religions

1089
01:21:00,460 --> 01:21:09,900
speak roughly in the same terms about life um and you can i know you know the the battle of good and

1090
01:21:09,900 --> 01:21:17,180
evil is kind of a pretty old meme when you think about it so is um you know i don't know who was

1091
01:21:17,180 --> 01:21:23,500
talking to the other day we we um we were talking about things that happened in the year 2000 you

1092
01:21:23,500 --> 01:21:28,420
remember like oh right what you thought was going to happen no no not even that i mean like the

1093
01:21:28,420 --> 01:21:34,080
return of christ for example you know or the the coming of the you know the return of the messiah

1094
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:40,320
or and i thought we were all going to have flying cars well what's a flying car mate

1095
01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:45,880
we're probably about to have flying cars actually i think the technology is probably about to

1096
01:21:45,880 --> 01:21:50,520
absolutely increase it at an exponential rate isn't it oh i forgot what i was talking about now

1097
01:21:50,520 --> 01:22:00,740
souls oh yeah yeah yeah um but but yeah the the there are many things that if you know like if

1098
01:22:00,740 --> 01:22:06,460
like for example if you look back historically some people have often described mythology and

1099
01:22:06,460 --> 01:22:14,120
spirituality as anything that was a void of some kind of scientific discovery it's a what is it an

1100
01:22:14,120 --> 01:22:20,640
ever decreasing bubble spirituality is an ever decreasing bubble of of what we actually know

1101
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:26,140
about the world compared to what we what we think we know so in the past it's raining oh my god

1102
01:22:26,140 --> 01:22:32,260
that's the rain gods or whatever that's the brutal past now we that that that side of spirituality

1103
01:22:32,260 --> 01:22:40,440
obviously had to disappear because we know it's people seeding the clouds yeah um but but um but

1104
01:22:40,440 --> 01:22:49,060
But there are lots of things which most of the main religions and spiritual traditions have said.

1105
01:22:49,180 --> 01:22:51,200
Like, you know, very common one. We're all one.

1106
01:22:51,440 --> 01:22:54,940
Actually, this is all a bit of a myth and a dream.

1107
01:22:55,200 --> 01:22:56,980
And you and me, we're actually all one.

1108
01:22:57,920 --> 01:22:59,640
And what are we doing now?

1109
01:22:59,640 --> 01:23:01,720
We're creating an internet.

1110
01:23:03,620 --> 01:23:06,420
We're basically connecting ourselves all up together.

1111
01:23:06,420 --> 01:23:13,460
and we're only probably 20 years away from implanting that inside our own bodies

1112
01:23:13,460 --> 01:23:18,240
so that we're all connected, literally, telepathically, God knows what.

1113
01:23:18,800 --> 01:23:22,940
A lot of those sort of things, the traditions,

1114
01:23:23,060 --> 01:23:24,200
I don't know where I'm going with this now,

1115
01:23:24,740 --> 01:23:29,740
but there could be an element of truth in it.

1116
01:23:29,740 --> 01:23:30,380
I don't know.

1117
01:23:31,040 --> 01:23:31,820
Yeah, I don't know.

1118
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:33,160
I'm confusing myself now,

1119
01:23:33,220 --> 01:23:35,000
which is exactly what's supposed to happen when you get into

1120
01:23:35,000 --> 01:23:36,760
There's a bloody conspiracy theory, isn't it?

1121
01:23:36,860 --> 01:23:44,360
Now, I just did a very long episode with another Bitcoiner who goes by the name of Red Tail Hawk.

1122
01:23:45,080 --> 01:23:47,060
And it's the third time I've had him on the show.

1123
01:23:47,060 --> 01:23:50,800
And on this particular episode, he was talking about reincarnation.

1124
01:23:50,980 --> 01:23:58,520
So the idea of souls, the idea of that, you know, your body is just a vehicle for the soul.

1125
01:23:58,860 --> 01:24:01,680
And he linked this all back to the ancient Egyptians.

1126
01:24:01,680 --> 01:24:09,680
and he theorizes that the sarcophagus in the Grand Pyramid,

1127
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:12,180
or all pyramids actually, around the world,

1128
01:24:12,180 --> 01:24:15,680
and you can find pyramids all around the world, it's not just Egypt,

1129
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:28,014
that they were a form of what you know now as like a sensory deprivation tank which people will go and pay to do right And in those tanks you have Epsom salts I believe

1130
01:24:28,154 --> 01:24:29,834
which gives you a certain amount of buoyancy

1131
01:24:29,834 --> 01:24:32,674
and has all the good nutrients and magnesium

1132
01:24:33,314 --> 01:24:35,714
and whatever else that soaks in, and this is the idea.

1133
01:24:36,134 --> 01:24:37,174
And then you close the lid,

1134
01:24:37,534 --> 01:24:40,034
and you're in complete and utter total darkness,

1135
01:24:40,034 --> 01:24:41,494
and it's just you with yourself.

1136
01:24:42,014 --> 01:24:46,714
And he theorizes that this is what the ancient Egyptians were doing

1137
01:24:46,714 --> 01:24:52,394
to reach their higher selves and um you know open up their uh third eyes whatever they call it

1138
01:24:52,394 --> 01:24:57,634
now i've that works actually that that sensory deprivation thing does actually work you've done

1139
01:24:57,634 --> 01:25:05,414
it no i've done versions of it right but like it it does work as is as as does sitting in a cave

1140
01:25:05,414 --> 01:25:09,654
for two weeks and not seeing light for two weeks and things like that you know right once you take

1141
01:25:09,654 --> 01:25:15,654
away those things your sensitivities i've done it with food as well i fasted once for 10 days

1142
01:25:15,654 --> 01:25:24,774
just drinking water wow and by the so by the third or fourth day the actual pain of wanting to eat

1143
01:25:24,774 --> 01:25:34,714
just disappears and by the sort of sixth or seventh day you are hyper aware and funnily enough by the

1144
01:25:34,714 --> 01:25:39,414
tenth day because i started doing it with four friends and all three of the other three dropped

1145
01:25:39,414 --> 01:25:48,814
out and by the end it was just me and like this was in Thailand years ago and I I realized well

1146
01:25:48,814 --> 01:25:52,294
what I thought which is obviously me I was probably a little bit insane at the time but

1147
01:25:52,294 --> 01:25:59,234
that I didn't need to eat anymore I was like you know I didn't you know I thought why why go back

1148
01:25:59,234 --> 01:26:03,874
to eating and actually the reason I went back after 10 days was because I missed the social

1149
01:26:03,874 --> 01:26:08,554
aspect of sitting around and eating but I really did believe that I don't need to eat anymore

1150
01:26:08,554 --> 01:26:15,574
i'm fine i was super vibrant i was really i was really like very aware of everything super

1151
01:26:15,574 --> 01:26:21,374
switched on you know um and i think the same thing happens when you deprive yourself of a lot of

1152
01:26:21,374 --> 01:26:27,794
things it kind of you don't realize just how much food is really dumbing you down and weighing you

1153
01:26:27,794 --> 01:26:35,394
down and sort of like this quagmire of it desensitizes you so if deprivation of certain

1154
01:26:35,394 --> 01:26:42,274
things heightens our senses what are we depriving ourselves of today well i mean i would say lots

1155
01:26:42,274 --> 01:26:50,994
of things like light emfs you know i mean you know like where i live there's no wi-fi right

1156
01:26:50,994 --> 01:26:56,794
yeah unless i switch it on right and i like that because i've heard a few things about wi-fi not

1157
01:26:56,794 --> 01:27:00,554
being good for you and then i thought jesus i just come here if you turn your phone on mate

1158
01:27:00,554 --> 01:27:11,834
there are 50 wi-fi networks here right now um is that good for you no it's definitely not good

1159
01:27:11,834 --> 01:27:17,154
right but but so i mean do you feel it i can't i don't necessarily feel it i don't think but

1160
01:27:17,154 --> 01:27:23,154
we're filling it at a cellular level but we some people are hyper there's a great book on this it's

1161
01:27:23,154 --> 01:27:30,434
called the invisible rainbow uh and um he was uh what you'd call like uh hypersensitive and uh

1162
01:27:30,434 --> 01:27:32,234
Furstenberg, I think his name is.

1163
01:27:33,494 --> 01:27:36,334
And I've put onto this book by a couple of other Bitcoiners

1164
01:27:36,334 --> 01:27:37,374
and Jack Cruz as well.

1165
01:27:37,874 --> 01:27:41,134
And he talks about what we're surrounded by right now.

1166
01:27:41,674 --> 01:27:46,134
Yeah, you've got Wi-Fi boxes above us, below us, next to us.

1167
01:27:46,134 --> 01:27:47,214
You can see it on my phone.

1168
01:27:47,814 --> 01:27:48,814
It's wild.

1169
01:27:49,634 --> 01:27:53,734
But the point is I'm worried about one Wi-Fi network where I live,

1170
01:27:53,794 --> 01:27:56,934
which switches off at 10 o'clock every evening and turns on at 8

1171
01:27:56,934 --> 01:27:59,414
because I think, well, we're asleep, probably not a good idea.

1172
01:27:59,414 --> 01:28:00,994
And then I'm sleeping here.

1173
01:28:01,374 --> 01:28:06,094
There's probably 14 Wi-Fi networks blasting my brain with something.

1174
01:28:06,254 --> 01:28:07,834
And what's his name?

1175
01:28:08,214 --> 01:28:10,054
Kennedy in the US.

1176
01:28:10,274 --> 01:28:12,634
He does actually say that.

1177
01:28:13,294 --> 01:28:19,054
Now, he's a lawyer slash high up in the government.

1178
01:28:19,534 --> 01:28:21,494
And he says, yeah, Wi-Fi is bad for you.

1179
01:28:21,834 --> 01:28:25,554
Like, why wouldn't I believe him necessarily?

1180
01:28:25,554 --> 01:28:29,134
Why would I believe the Wi-Fi company that says it's fine?

1181
01:28:29,414 --> 01:28:30,234
It's fine, bro.

1182
01:28:30,494 --> 01:28:31,414
It ain't fine.

1183
01:28:32,874 --> 01:28:34,574
No, it's definitely bad for you, isn't it?

1184
01:28:34,574 --> 01:28:38,374
Yeah, the non-native EMFs are shockingly bad for you.

1185
01:28:39,014 --> 01:28:43,194
And it can be linked to all kinds of modern-day problems,

1186
01:28:43,714 --> 01:28:47,114
ADHD being one of them because you're just hyper the whole time.

1187
01:28:48,694 --> 01:28:51,214
Cancers, obviously, another big one.

1188
01:28:52,034 --> 01:28:57,994
I don't know how you fight it other than you can wear EMF-blocking clothing now.

1189
01:28:58,234 --> 01:28:58,954
You can fight that.

1190
01:28:59,414 --> 01:29:02,054
So it's not just your brain, it's like your body.

1191
01:29:02,054 --> 01:29:08,654
Yeah, like you're at the cellular level all over your body is being, yeah, perturbed, mate.

1192
01:29:09,114 --> 01:29:14,674
There's a great Twitter, another Bitcoiner called, it's just Rusty on Twitter, he's an Indian guy.

1193
01:29:15,454 --> 01:29:21,874
He does a lot of great visuals and education about what's going on.

1194
01:29:22,854 --> 01:29:25,354
Like the smart meters, like the smart meters in the UK.

1195
01:29:25,354 --> 01:29:31,854
like those things are emitting like ridiculous amounts of non-native emfs into the atmosphere

1196
01:29:31,854 --> 01:29:38,994
and um you get forced into putting those in your house and it's not just so you know we can you know

1197
01:29:38,994 --> 01:29:43,134
you can save money on how much electric like they don't care about that that's the last thing they

1198
01:29:43,134 --> 01:29:49,374
care about so what are the other what are the other reasons that they're doing it so i don't know

1199
01:29:49,374 --> 01:29:56,234
once again i come back to the that's isn't that just people making the technology like i don't

1200
01:29:56,234 --> 01:30:03,454
know what's your what's your stance on the on the big conspiracy true or not like is is is and and

1201
01:30:03,454 --> 01:30:09,014
i mean is it is there someone is there a secret government running the world or a secret group of

1202
01:30:09,014 --> 01:30:14,554
people i think i think it's very overt uh you have the bilderberg group you have the club of rome

1203
01:30:14,554 --> 01:30:22,314
you have the wef these these are all like the very much they want the same thing but as in one

1204
01:30:22,314 --> 01:30:27,874
world government world governance yeah which is weird when you think about bitcoin being a global

1205
01:30:27,874 --> 01:30:34,774
currency but they can't control that do you want to hear something weird mate yep first conversation

1206
01:30:34,774 --> 01:30:43,594
i had when i came here um i've been on this interesting journey uh recently you know we

1207
01:30:43,594 --> 01:30:51,114
bought we bought our new place and we basically we couldn't afford to buy it what we wanted done up

1208
01:30:51,114 --> 01:30:55,834
so we bought as we've always done as we get higher and higher up the property ladder we buy something

1209
01:30:55,834 --> 01:31:02,854
and do it up for the first time in my new house i was looking around the other day thinking what's

1210
01:31:02,854 --> 01:31:08,894
the point in doing this up what is the point you know what's the point in plowing money into this

1211
01:31:08,894 --> 01:31:10,934
which could end up being a liability for me.

1212
01:31:11,314 --> 01:31:13,174
Plus, obviously, if I had spare money,

1213
01:31:13,274 --> 01:31:14,914
there's no way I would put it into property.

1214
01:31:16,214 --> 01:31:17,814
And it may, you know what I thought?

1215
01:31:18,394 --> 01:31:19,654
You will have nothing and be happy.

1216
01:31:19,914 --> 01:31:19,994
Yeah.

1217
01:31:20,874 --> 01:31:21,194
Right.

1218
01:31:21,494 --> 01:31:23,254
But there's an element of that going on.

1219
01:31:23,434 --> 01:31:23,934
It's true.

1220
01:31:24,334 --> 01:31:25,714
I mean, it's not that you will have nothing.

1221
01:31:25,834 --> 01:31:27,334
It's that you will have Bitcoin and be happy.

1222
01:31:27,734 --> 01:31:31,314
But really, my mind, I was a bit worried.

1223
01:31:31,434 --> 01:31:33,094
I'm like, am I agreeing with Klaus here?

1224
01:31:33,234 --> 01:31:34,414
Is this a good thing?

1225
01:31:34,414 --> 01:31:38,474
You know, because it makes more sense to rent a house

1226
01:31:38,474 --> 01:31:41,594
and have none of the responsibility or bullshit.

1227
01:31:43,194 --> 01:31:45,654
Because really, owning a house is a bit of a scam.

1228
01:31:45,994 --> 01:31:48,054
That's another rabbit hole to go down probably,

1229
01:31:48,394 --> 01:31:49,134
especially now.

1230
01:31:49,774 --> 01:31:51,294
You know, house prices don't go up,

1231
01:31:51,494 --> 01:31:52,554
your money devalues,

1232
01:31:52,954 --> 01:31:54,894
and I'm not even sure they beat inflation.

1233
01:31:55,514 --> 01:31:57,854
And the cost of upkeeping a house is massive.

1234
01:31:58,354 --> 01:32:00,954
And by the time you sell it and pay the tax

1235
01:32:00,954 --> 01:32:01,414
and blah, blah, blah,

1236
01:32:01,414 --> 01:32:03,634
how much actually, you know,

1237
01:32:03,754 --> 01:32:06,234
the myth that property is a great investment,

1238
01:32:06,734 --> 01:32:07,594
probably not true.

1239
01:32:08,474 --> 01:32:14,914
um so so yeah maybe maybe they're on something i i've always thought right yeah

1240
01:32:14,914 --> 01:32:19,934
you will own nothing and be happy as bad because you need to own stuff this is that you're an

1241
01:32:19,934 --> 01:32:24,894
individual you should own things but what bitcoin is doing is making you realize there's nothing

1242
01:32:24,894 --> 01:32:32,854
else worth owning because a it can all be become a liability to you really in this day and age

1243
01:32:32,854 --> 01:32:39,554
like things in the real world especially big things that don't move like houses are actually

1244
01:32:39,554 --> 01:32:46,654
a ball and chain around you um but but that's a scary thought because that is quite similar to

1245
01:32:46,654 --> 01:32:53,674
what the world economic forum want you to think yes uh so this brings us on to uh a loyal title

1246
01:32:53,674 --> 01:33:02,854
and you spell that word a double l o d i a l and uh this is another rabbit hole if you want to go

1247
01:33:02,854 --> 01:33:08,994
down it a loyal title so i'm gonna guess what it is it's like we don't own anything you don't own

1248
01:33:08,994 --> 01:33:15,114
anything yeah you've got let's hear it let's hear it so a loyal title basically the definition is

1249
01:33:15,114 --> 01:33:21,114
you know you have true and complete ownership over the thing that is a loyal title that is

1250
01:33:21,114 --> 01:33:23,354
yours and no question.

1251
01:33:23,354 --> 01:33:25,594
And the only thing we can have true

1252
01:33:25,594 --> 01:33:29,954
a loyal title over today is Bitcoin.

1253
01:33:30,654 --> 01:33:33,334
If we're talking about investable assets is Bitcoin.

1254
01:33:33,654 --> 01:33:36,054
So, and this is where it gets pretty dark

1255
01:33:36,054 --> 01:33:37,494
because people are going to think, well, you know,

1256
01:33:37,494 --> 01:33:39,374
I own my house, you know, well,

1257
01:33:39,374 --> 01:33:52,608
most people probably have a mortgage on their house So that means in essence the bank owns the house You just have a claim on the property and you are the registered keeper of that property Most people

1258
01:33:52,608 --> 01:33:58,288
are going to say, well, I bought my car. If you've not used the loan agreement, then I went out and I

1259
01:33:58,288 --> 01:34:04,048
bought that car for £10,000 from the dealer with cash. That's my car. Well, the first thing that

1260
01:34:04,048 --> 01:34:09,068
that dealer does is change the V5 form for you. If you're in the UK, it depends what country you're

1261
01:34:09,068 --> 01:34:15,628
in the form is going to get filled out and that is going to be registered in the course of the in

1262
01:34:15,628 --> 01:34:24,188
the in the case of the uh the uk with the dvla you registered the car with the dvla it even says

1263
01:34:24,188 --> 01:34:30,068
black and white on your v5 form that you are the registered keeper you're not the owner you're

1264
01:34:30,068 --> 01:34:35,668
right registered keeper they are the owner of the car really you are the registered keeper is that

1265
01:34:35,668 --> 01:34:40,928
what it means yes and you are the driver and this comes under the universal commercial code because

1266
01:34:40,928 --> 01:34:47,468
everything we've been trapped into doing is under commercial code you are a business tim allen in

1267
01:34:47,468 --> 01:34:53,608
all capitals because when you were born your mother and father did the right thing that they

1268
01:34:53,608 --> 01:34:58,068
thought they were doing and when you were born in what's called a foundling hospital which is a

1269
01:34:58,068 --> 01:35:05,588
jurisdiction of the of the state they filled out a birth certificate and that birth certificate

1270
01:35:05,588 --> 01:35:12,068
they registered your birth and when they registered their birth they registered you over to the state

1271
01:35:12,068 --> 01:35:17,868
so this is why the state believes that all of us are chattel which is another word for cattle

1272
01:35:17,868 --> 01:35:24,908
so the own you will own nothing and be happy is already here but but in reality

1273
01:35:24,908 --> 01:35:32,468
no one's claiming ownership over me or my children are they no and also no social services turn up on

1274
01:35:32,468 --> 01:35:36,428
your door because you've not been following the rules and or you've tried to homeschool you've

1275
01:35:36,428 --> 01:35:41,228
tried to do you've tried to take them out but those people don't know about a low deal sorry

1276
01:35:41,228 --> 01:35:45,608
what's it called a lloydial title they don't know about all your titles they just know that their

1277
01:35:45,608 --> 01:35:51,728
the state is bigger than you and that they've got more power so when when so this is something that

1278
01:35:51,728 --> 01:35:56,508
people will be able to, you know, latch on to. If you want to, in the UK, again, sorry,

1279
01:35:56,588 --> 01:36:01,168
this is very UK specific, but we're both from that country, and this is what we know,

1280
01:36:01,688 --> 01:36:05,968
and people have probably seen these headlines. But if you want to take your child out of school,

1281
01:36:05,968 --> 01:36:11,448
if you sent your child to state school, you register at the state school, so they are registered

1282
01:36:11,448 --> 01:36:21,148
again uh you've given up that um agency over them they are now the under the uh the school's um

1283
01:36:21,148 --> 01:36:27,768
rules that's why you can't take them out two days before the summer holidays start without being

1284
01:36:27,768 --> 01:36:34,468
fined because you've registered you don't you are not their owners they are owned by that

1285
01:36:34,468 --> 01:36:43,488
institution this is so dark that it's just once again like it's all very well but try taking that

1286
01:36:43,488 --> 01:36:48,528
to court and saying you own i own your kids it's like no you don't no one's gonna no one's gonna

1287
01:36:48,528 --> 01:36:53,828
no jury's gonna say yeah that's true are they they might say that social services take kids

1288
01:36:53,828 --> 01:37:01,068
all the time well they would justify it because the kids are being i'm not sure they evoke the

1289
01:37:01,068 --> 01:37:08,688
a loyedial title no because you don't you you yourself have had people come around to your house

1290
01:37:08,688 --> 01:37:14,908
in france and a number of times social services yeah because you homeschool your kids yes

1291
01:37:14,908 --> 01:37:23,268
i mean that is is insane it completely insane because to for for us to when we when we first

1292
01:37:23,268 --> 01:37:28,288
moved to france we wanted to get the kids uh immersed that the whole idea the whole reason

1293
01:37:28,288 --> 01:37:35,628
dare I say the raison d'être for us to live in France was to get the kids speak in another

1294
01:37:35,628 --> 01:37:41,368
language Claire and I we we we decided if we could give our kids the ultimate gift what would it be

1295
01:37:41,368 --> 01:37:45,448
it would be the ability for them to speak another language be bilingual at the very minimum if

1296
01:37:45,448 --> 01:37:50,748
they're bilingual that's probably going to unlock a whole different part of their brain so we decided

1297
01:37:50,748 --> 01:37:54,748
we we were home swapping in a house sitting in France at the time we'd been there for three

1298
01:37:54,748 --> 01:37:59,628
months. We loved it. We had a great time. We just got a long-term rental. We stayed for a year,

1299
01:37:59,708 --> 01:38:04,408
then we stayed for another year, and we get the kids into the local, there was a nice Montessori

1300
01:38:04,408 --> 01:38:08,708
school. Still, you had to do all the registration process and all of this stuff. So even with a

1301
01:38:08,708 --> 01:38:13,288
British passport, you go in and you sign the forms. I didn't know this at the time. I've only learned

1302
01:38:13,288 --> 01:38:22,268
this recently. But I'm registering them now to a French state institution. So I've moved them from

1303
01:38:22,268 --> 01:38:26,408
my complete ownership because nobody knew we'd been traveling for two and a half years.

1304
01:38:26,788 --> 01:38:30,688
Nobody knew where we'd lived. Nobody knew where we'd come from. It wasn't any kind of

1305
01:38:30,688 --> 01:38:37,408
jurisdictional nonsense. And they'd been around us for the last two and a half years.

1306
01:38:38,388 --> 01:38:44,208
Their births had been registered in Singapore. And now we were in France, but with a British

1307
01:38:44,208 --> 01:38:51,808
passport. So just weird family. But then you sign all those papers and then they become

1308
01:38:51,808 --> 01:38:55,548
under the BDI of the French state.

1309
01:38:55,868 --> 01:38:59,208
So when it came to us wanting to take them out of school during COVID

1310
01:38:59,208 --> 01:39:02,528
because we were not down with sending them into school

1311
01:39:02,528 --> 01:39:05,728
to stand two metres apart from each other and wear a mask

1312
01:39:05,728 --> 01:39:06,828
and all of this kind of nonsense,

1313
01:39:07,188 --> 01:39:08,828
and they could speak French by then anyway,

1314
01:39:09,068 --> 01:39:11,148
well, no, you're out, you're going on to an online school,

1315
01:39:11,628 --> 01:39:12,648
and you're done.

1316
01:39:12,728 --> 01:39:13,788
You'll keep the language up.

1317
01:39:13,868 --> 01:39:14,968
You've still got your French friends.

1318
01:39:15,088 --> 01:39:17,828
You could go to the birthday parties, horse riding, football,

1319
01:39:18,008 --> 01:39:19,188
whatever it was you're doing.

1320
01:39:19,188 --> 01:39:26,028
but then you have to come out of that system is very difficult now you have to start all of the

1321
01:39:26,028 --> 01:39:31,108
paperwork and this is where the state stand around their little state bots known as social services

1322
01:39:31,108 --> 01:39:37,788
to come and visit like well what kind of family are you and they'll have this whole

1323
01:39:37,788 --> 01:39:46,348
checklist of things that they've got to check off you know do they have the tools available to them

1324
01:39:46,348 --> 01:39:49,828
Do they have a place to sit with their desk?

1325
01:39:50,008 --> 01:39:51,908
Do they have access to a computer?

1326
01:39:52,068 --> 01:39:53,768
Look, all of this kind of basic stuff,

1327
01:39:54,128 --> 01:39:55,708
where they'll come around and go through this checklist

1328
01:39:55,708 --> 01:39:57,588
and then leave again.

1329
01:39:58,228 --> 01:40:02,748
Now, they were very nice people, and that's great.

1330
01:40:03,008 --> 01:40:03,988
And they come and they saw,

1331
01:40:04,108 --> 01:40:06,288
and we had very good conversations with them.

1332
01:40:06,428 --> 01:40:08,968
And we were in a small enough town

1333
01:40:08,968 --> 01:40:11,848
where we actually knew some of the social workers

1334
01:40:11,848 --> 01:40:14,068
because I worked out with one of the ladies at the gym.

1335
01:40:14,348 --> 01:40:16,148
That's embarrassing, Evo, isn't it?

1336
01:40:16,148 --> 01:40:30,168
Absolutely. But now that's not to say that if you have the wrong kind of people with some kind of power complex that come around and say, what are these British people doing living in our countryside, taking up one of our houses?

1337
01:40:30,168 --> 01:40:34,908
You can just imagine the kind of thought processes that might go through somebody else's head.

1338
01:40:35,288 --> 01:40:40,008
Like these are not fit parents to homeschool. Therefore, we're going to make life difficult for them.

1339
01:40:40,168 --> 01:40:43,028
Therefore, this is going to happen. Therefore, you get served a notice.

1340
01:40:43,028 --> 01:40:49,808
kids back in the school within two weeks or else they will be taken and the this is the kind of

1341
01:40:49,808 --> 01:40:56,808
stuff that's written actually out in the forms that gets sent to you so you don't even have how

1342
01:40:56,808 --> 01:41:05,468
many times they come around uh twice they would do like uh 18 month visits i think just to check

1343
01:41:05,468 --> 01:41:12,988
that you are like what to check what to check like i think about it i guess like the edge cases are

1344
01:41:12,988 --> 01:41:18,748
you know you're abusing the children or they're starving in the corner or you know whatever um

1345
01:41:18,748 --> 01:41:22,588
but they're not there to check that they're probably there to check that you're educating

1346
01:41:22,588 --> 01:41:28,268
them right yes and that had to be done this was again this is a big problem did you but yeah that's

1347
01:41:28,268 --> 01:41:32,948
a good question actually were you allowed to just teach them however you wanted no so even as a

1348
01:41:32,948 --> 01:41:39,968
homeschooler you had to teach the way they wanted you to this is why we don't live there anymore

1349
01:41:39,968 --> 01:41:47,488
because they would the kids would then have they would be invited uh let's say summoned uh to

1350
01:41:47,488 --> 01:41:54,548
a once a year uh control control uh examination where they would be interrogated for want of a

1351
01:41:54,548 --> 01:42:00,648
better word by five different teachers it'd be a geography history guy it'd be um what testing

1352
01:42:00,648 --> 01:42:09,948
their knowledge and stuff language uh hit uh maths science and one else which is escaping me

1353
01:42:09,948 --> 01:42:18,608
right now it'll come back to me um and they would have to go with all of the like all the

1354
01:42:18,608 --> 01:42:23,548
homeschool kids from the department would have to go and they would all turn up and you've got to

1355
01:42:23,548 --> 01:42:29,788
take the the tools and the textbooks and things that you are using to teach at home and they

1356
01:42:29,788 --> 01:42:37,048
expected you to follow the exact curriculum like by the exact textbooks so when we turn up we're

1357
01:42:37,048 --> 01:42:40,168
like well here's their laptops and here's all the stuff that we do with them and it's all

1358
01:42:40,168 --> 01:42:45,948
oh no no no no no we need the paper and uh like you know they're very much like what they they

1359
01:42:45,948 --> 01:42:54,168
expect you to study the same books just at home yes highly regarded yes that's completely regarded

1360
01:42:54,168 --> 01:42:55,668
I can't say the word.

1361
01:42:55,668 --> 01:42:57,208
It's my podcast.

1362
01:42:57,208 --> 01:42:58,148
Right.

1363
01:42:58,148 --> 01:42:59,588
But come on.

1364
01:42:59,588 --> 01:43:16,402
And if you fail that control which our kids did because they weren doing the thing then you be invited back to get a second chance so we were having all of this to and fro and uh paperwork going you know did you what did you

1365
01:43:16,402 --> 01:43:22,762
get them to sort of like just learn a load of crap and take some books in then uh so we we would

1366
01:43:22,762 --> 01:43:28,822
just prep for you know the the week it was like classic exam prep like a week and a half before

1367
01:43:28,822 --> 01:43:35,242
it's like right let's just get knuckled down now let's do areas let's do um pythagoras let's do

1368
01:43:35,242 --> 01:43:42,802
you're practically at school at that point exactly you're just subjecting them to to what you're

1369
01:43:42,802 --> 01:43:50,202
trying uh and then and then you would turn up and in front of that so lauren uh was just absolutely

1370
01:43:50,202 --> 01:43:56,162
grilled by this old hag of a biology teacher.

1371
01:43:56,542 --> 01:43:57,482
She was really awful.

1372
01:43:58,182 --> 01:44:00,062
And Laurence French is very, very good,

1373
01:44:00,522 --> 01:44:02,362
even though you can still pick up on the accent

1374
01:44:02,362 --> 01:44:03,982
and you know that you're speaking to.

1375
01:44:04,802 --> 01:44:07,742
So first of all, the parents were allowed to sit there,

1376
01:44:08,562 --> 01:44:09,842
but you weren't allowed to say anything.

1377
01:44:09,962 --> 01:44:11,142
Wow, that must have hurt.

1378
01:44:11,262 --> 01:44:12,042
Just ridiculous.

1379
01:44:13,122 --> 01:44:14,162
And these are the rules.

1380
01:44:14,162 --> 01:44:15,842
And I even started talking once,

1381
01:44:15,942 --> 01:44:17,482
and the teacher told me off for speaking,

1382
01:44:17,662 --> 01:44:18,682
and like, no, I'm speaking to.

1383
01:44:18,682 --> 01:44:21,202
And I'm like, you people are so far gone.

1384
01:44:21,662 --> 01:44:23,022
So when you're dealing with these people,

1385
01:44:23,082 --> 01:44:25,342
if you're dealing with a 45-year-old teacher,

1386
01:44:25,482 --> 01:44:27,742
you're dealing with somebody that hasn't left that institution

1387
01:44:27,742 --> 01:44:28,862
since the age of five.

1388
01:44:29,062 --> 01:44:29,582
They're gone.

1389
01:44:30,202 --> 01:44:32,322
Like you are literally talking to an agent smith.

1390
01:44:33,022 --> 01:44:35,142
And they might be there for all the best intentions,

1391
01:44:35,282 --> 01:44:37,782
but they just don't understand the programming that they're going through

1392
01:44:37,782 --> 01:44:40,882
and the pain and the trauma that they're putting the kids through.

1393
01:44:40,962 --> 01:44:44,402
The fact that we had to drive an hour there, you know,

1394
01:44:44,422 --> 01:44:46,902
out of our way and all of the cramming that they've done before.

1395
01:44:46,902 --> 01:44:50,542
So anyway, she's sitting there with, I remember this vividly,

1396
01:44:50,922 --> 01:44:53,342
she's sitting there with the textbook in front of her,

1397
01:44:53,982 --> 01:44:55,762
the full-on beautiful color textbook.

1398
01:44:56,162 --> 01:45:00,382
She hands Lauren a photocopied page from this textbook

1399
01:45:00,382 --> 01:45:03,922
and starts asking her questions about photosynthesis.

1400
01:45:04,682 --> 01:45:05,702
And she knew it.

1401
01:45:05,842 --> 01:45:07,162
Like, we'd gone through photosynthesis.

1402
01:45:07,422 --> 01:45:08,002
Isn't that hard?

1403
01:45:08,302 --> 01:45:11,442
And then at the bottom of the page, there were two pictures.

1404
01:45:11,962 --> 01:45:15,742
There was a picture of a dead plant and a picture of an alive plant.

1405
01:45:15,742 --> 01:45:24,302
and the question was simply which plant is alive so lauren just said yeah so yeah lauren just said

1406
01:45:24,302 --> 01:45:30,882
the picture's black and white they both look the same oh right i thought you meant one was

1407
01:45:30,882 --> 01:45:37,322
shriveled up on right so like clearly that one is you know the better one but you know you can't

1408
01:45:37,322 --> 01:45:41,942
tell the photosynthesis process because of the black and white picture and that pissed the teacher

1409
01:45:41,942 --> 01:45:46,782
her off and then she starts like really getting dialed down into her and asking her very very

1410
01:45:46,782 --> 01:45:50,762
difficult questions to the point where she got up and walked away after the 15 minutes in

1411
01:45:50,762 --> 01:45:57,082
interrogation and just lost it just cried just broke down and i i it was at that point that

1412
01:45:57,082 --> 01:46:03,702
claire and i decided well you know again this comes back to uh you know stepping in as parents

1413
01:46:03,702 --> 01:46:08,622
having ownership over your children and we called across the direct trees and we're like that this

1414
01:46:08,622 --> 01:46:10,882
is completely uncalled for.

1415
01:46:10,982 --> 01:46:17,142
Why is my daughter standing in the middle of this auditorium in tears?

1416
01:46:17,482 --> 01:46:18,522
This doesn't happen at home.

1417
01:46:18,882 --> 01:46:21,282
I bring her into this institution and look at this.

1418
01:46:21,362 --> 01:46:23,122
This is what is being bred.

1419
01:46:23,302 --> 01:46:23,842
What do you want to say?

1420
01:46:24,542 --> 01:46:29,142
Yeah, come back for the next test because she hasn't passed it.

1421
01:46:29,982 --> 01:46:33,282
That was the paperwork that came through.

1422
01:46:33,282 --> 01:46:38,282
Now, the lady at the time, the directrice, she was very comforting.

1423
01:46:38,282 --> 01:46:44,482
oh it's okay it doesn't matter it's fine you know blah blah blah blah blah blah very human touch but

1424
01:46:44,482 --> 01:46:50,422
then that human touch gets completely lost when the marking gets passed to the next bureaucracy

1425
01:46:50,422 --> 01:46:55,462
level and that bureaucracy level writes out all the reports and that gets passed to the next

1426
01:46:55,462 --> 01:47:01,422
bureaucracy level and they're the ones that send out the summons uh mate you know it was people

1427
01:47:01,422 --> 01:47:10,782
think uh look i'm just saying no country's perfect and there is no utopia anywhere for uh

1428
01:47:10,782 --> 01:47:16,142
for us all to escape to as much as i would love to think the free cities are you know doing the

1429
01:47:16,142 --> 01:47:21,802
groundwork for us all to find the perfect citadel and maybe that is uh well even honduras faced its

1430
01:47:21,802 --> 01:47:28,002
problems and uh and hopefully that's all getting uh it does appear to be turning around yes amazing

1431
01:47:28,002 --> 01:47:34,382
a massive amount of investment which arguably was coming anyway uh the government are almost

1432
01:47:34,382 --> 01:47:42,102
certainly on their way out in september october time i think um but but i hear what you're saying

1433
01:47:42,102 --> 01:47:50,382
i i i don't think free cities is i don't think free cities fix this i think um because what i

1434
01:47:50,382 --> 01:47:55,802
think fixes it is competition but governance competition that's what i think fixes it

1435
01:47:55,802 --> 01:48:02,542
and because I think free cities can be whatever you want you could get terrible places and you

1436
01:48:02,542 --> 01:48:09,902
can get great places the point is you need some kind of freedom to choose and to opt in and to

1437
01:48:09,902 --> 01:48:17,042
decide where you want to be and and obviously living in a place where they knock on your door

1438
01:48:17,042 --> 01:48:20,682
because your kids aren't at school is not the kind of place you want to live I mean you did the right

1439
01:48:20,682 --> 01:48:24,822
thing you voted with your feet but I would say you walked out of the frying pan into the fire

1440
01:48:24,822 --> 01:48:30,242
really we'll see what happens for the next few years well yeah yeah well let's talk about that

1441
01:48:30,242 --> 01:48:33,702
look we we should we should wrap it up soon we've been we should we should be going out for dinner

1442
01:48:33,702 --> 01:48:39,882
which we are and i'm coming with you i go um what what do you do though like have you what's your

1443
01:48:39,882 --> 01:48:45,482
what's your plan long term without you don't have to give it away but how are you thinking about all

1444
01:48:45,482 --> 01:48:50,622
this because i think about it all the time and things are changing and i'm looking at the uk

1445
01:48:50,622 --> 01:48:55,442
again thinking oh my god and i'm almost feeling do you remember that do you remember doing covid

1446
01:48:55,442 --> 01:49:01,762
when people were going insane and telling you insane things to your face and stopping you from

1447
01:49:01,762 --> 01:49:09,142
going into shops and stuff and i'm seeing the little twinges of the insanity coming back i'm

1448
01:49:09,142 --> 01:49:16,522
looking at i'm going online and i can't access a website unless i go get around it with a vpn you

1449
01:49:16,522 --> 01:49:20,662
I know, but so what are you thinking?

1450
01:49:20,922 --> 01:49:24,362
I have my thoughts about what the long-term strategy is and stuff.

1451
01:49:24,422 --> 01:49:24,842
What about you?

1452
01:49:25,362 --> 01:49:27,242
I just think we have to stay nimble.

1453
01:49:27,242 --> 01:49:32,362
I think having that, this is the beauty of Bitcoin.

1454
01:49:32,582 --> 01:49:35,342
I mean, it was inevitable we would talk deeper about Bitcoin, I think.

1455
01:49:36,022 --> 01:49:39,422
That's the true opt-out, right?

1456
01:49:39,602 --> 01:49:42,982
That is, so control, right?

1457
01:49:43,542 --> 01:49:45,322
We're coming back to this idea of control.

1458
01:49:45,322 --> 01:49:49,202
Is there people trying to socially engineer us into doing certain things?

1459
01:49:49,882 --> 01:49:50,902
Undoubtedly, yes.

1460
01:49:51,322 --> 01:49:52,902
We know that for a fact.

1461
01:49:53,022 --> 01:49:53,902
That's not a conspiracy.

1462
01:49:54,242 --> 01:50:05,142
If people haven't figured that out through going through the lockdowns and all the nudge units and everything else, the propaganda that was globally coerced,

1463
01:50:05,502 --> 01:50:11,502
I don't think anybody with a right mind can turn around and say, no, that was just what are you talking about?

1464
01:50:11,882 --> 01:50:14,162
That was a conspiracy theory of all theories, right?

1465
01:50:14,162 --> 01:50:22,342
How do we conspire together to get the whole globe locked down and taking medical shots?

1466
01:50:22,602 --> 01:50:22,822
You're right.

1467
01:50:23,162 --> 01:50:23,922
It is.

1468
01:50:24,042 --> 01:50:26,262
There weren't many places left that didn't get.

1469
01:50:26,442 --> 01:50:26,682
No.

1470
01:50:26,882 --> 01:50:27,042
Yeah.

1471
01:50:27,362 --> 01:50:30,982
So we are talking about, you know, pure social engineering.

1472
01:50:31,542 --> 01:50:32,862
And what's the best way?

1473
01:50:33,522 --> 01:50:40,202
The two most effective levers to socially engineer people is through money.

1474
01:50:40,202 --> 01:50:44,462
because medium of exchange is what makes the world go round.

1475
01:50:44,782 --> 01:50:47,682
Like our species wouldn't be where it is today

1476
01:50:47,682 --> 01:50:51,562
if we had not fallen upon the discovery of using a medium of exchange

1477
01:50:51,562 --> 01:50:54,042
to communicate value to each other.

1478
01:50:54,222 --> 01:50:56,782
And this happened way back in the caveman times, right?

1479
01:50:56,782 --> 01:50:59,942
We were sitting around the bonfire telling stories

1480
01:50:59,942 --> 01:51:02,102
and doing bartering and whatever else.

1481
01:51:02,202 --> 01:51:03,942
Then all of a sudden it's like, oh, wow.

1482
01:51:03,942 --> 01:51:15,542
Like if we use this beautiful, scarce looking, portable, durable thing as a medium of exchange, then maybe that will explode global trade.

1483
01:51:15,722 --> 01:51:17,022
And sure as shit, it did.

1484
01:51:17,322 --> 01:51:19,442
So without medium of exchange, we are nothing.

1485
01:51:19,702 --> 01:51:24,262
And we have that medium of exchange that we're forced to use, fiat currency.

1486
01:51:24,642 --> 01:51:26,242
And you and I have to use the pound.

1487
01:51:26,362 --> 01:51:27,722
Others have to use the euro.

1488
01:51:27,942 --> 01:51:29,802
Others have to use the dollar or the yen.

1489
01:51:29,802 --> 01:51:38,402
And that is just an incredibly effective way to socially engineer people into doing things that they necessarily wouldn't do.

1490
01:51:38,522 --> 01:51:40,462
Follow the incentives, misaligned incentives.

1491
01:51:40,602 --> 01:51:41,322
We've talked about this.

1492
01:51:42,622 --> 01:51:49,182
You know, how do you close down a bunch of businesses and create more monopolies and wealth at the top?

1493
01:51:49,302 --> 01:51:50,442
Well, what I know.

1494
01:51:50,622 --> 01:51:57,802
Should we lock everybody down and cripple supply chains and then pump as much money into the system as we can possibly get away with?

1495
01:51:57,802 --> 01:52:07,622
So you collapse the amount of goods and services in the economy at the same time, raising the amount of money, fiat currencies, excuse me, in the economy.

1496
01:52:07,762 --> 01:52:12,502
What's going to happen? You're going to cause like this huge inflation of prices.

1497
01:52:13,142 --> 01:52:21,622
Wages won't keep up with that. You are you've literally socially engineered people into feeling the desperation that they currently feel at the moment.

1498
01:52:21,622 --> 01:52:26,042
And they don't know where to look. And now you're getting the Internet shut down on people in the UK.

1499
01:52:26,042 --> 01:52:29,942
and you're getting all of this social engineering coming through the algorithms of your

1500
01:52:29,976 --> 01:52:35,456
in air quotes, social media platforms. And like, this is happening. And the other way that you can

1501
01:52:35,456 --> 01:52:42,536
control and socially engineer people is through the education system. Because you take a man,

1502
01:52:42,836 --> 01:52:46,396
if you take a boy, give me a boy until the age of seven, and I'll show you the man,

1503
01:52:46,796 --> 01:52:53,696
is what Socrates said. And we're giving our kids up to these entities, younger and younger.

1504
01:52:53,696 --> 01:53:00,236
and that is away from the family unit that is a traumatic experience giving your child up the

1505
01:53:00,236 --> 01:53:04,756
child doesn't know little johnny doesn't know that he's four and a half on a wednesday and

1506
01:53:04,756 --> 01:53:09,936
then five on a tuesday and that means he's got to go to school come september and he wakes up one

1507
01:53:09,936 --> 01:53:15,116
morning on a monday he's wearing shit he has no idea why the hell am i wearing this stuff what's

1508
01:53:15,116 --> 01:53:23,596
this bag on my back why am i in the car at 8 a.m at this door with this strange people and like who

1509
01:53:23,596 --> 01:53:29,896
Well, these other hundred, you can't, it doesn't matter how many weeks in advance you tell little

1510
01:53:29,896 --> 01:53:34,136
Johnny, oh, you're going to big boy school on Monday. Monday isn't a thing in that little kid's

1511
01:53:34,136 --> 01:53:39,256
mind. It doesn't add up. So that is a traumatic experience. And then you are just programmed

1512
01:53:39,256 --> 01:53:45,876
through that next 15 years. So these are the two tools. So if we can opt out both of those,

1513
01:53:45,876 --> 01:53:57,600
then we start recreating society and you give yourself way better to communicate value with each other again It takes it way back to the basics here

1514
01:53:57,600 --> 01:54:03,320
So opting out, stop using their money and stop giving your kids up at the altar.

1515
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:09,300
And stay nimble because I think that's really good advice.

1516
01:54:09,300 --> 01:54:22,400
I think over the, not, not necessarily forever, but certainly there's, if ever, if ever there was a time to be nimble, it would be over the next sort of 30 years, you would have met or something.

1517
01:54:22,480 --> 01:54:22,820
I don't know.

1518
01:54:23,220 --> 01:54:26,640
It just feel, it does feel like the time to be on your toes, doesn't it?

1519
01:54:26,680 --> 01:54:35,760
And not, and not embedding yourself necessarily in one place, unless you're absolutely sure, you know, what's about to happen, which I don't think anyone does.

1520
01:54:35,760 --> 01:54:53,320
No. So we're not sure what's going to happen, where we currently are. We're renting a house. We love it. We really enjoy living there. We're very comfortable. And we know that if all of a sudden there was something needed to change, we could change it.

1521
01:54:53,320 --> 01:54:58,640
Uh, you know, you literally could be, you could leave the next day.

1522
01:54:59,140 --> 01:55:02,300
You'd have to like email the landlady and come up with something, and it's

1523
01:55:02,300 --> 01:55:06,440
going to cost you some exit fee or whatever else, but you are, you know what I mean?

1524
01:55:06,460 --> 01:55:07,260
You're gone.

1525
01:55:07,300 --> 01:55:26,304
You you can have a moving firm come in and pack your gear up for you And like you know you are nimble and um that the way we want to be for the next couple of years And then just read the signs watch the signals listen to your heart

1526
01:55:26,484 --> 01:55:30,284
get back to trusting your gut is the best way

1527
01:55:30,284 --> 01:55:32,784
and tune out to the noise as much as you can.

1528
01:55:33,904 --> 01:55:38,924
That's the way we've operated for the last handful of years.

1529
01:55:38,924 --> 01:55:39,824
certainly since COVID.

1530
01:55:41,104 --> 01:55:41,504
Hmm.

1531
01:55:42,504 --> 01:55:44,464
And I think I'm going to leave it there, mate.

1532
01:55:44,584 --> 01:55:46,024
I think that's a good place to end.

1533
01:55:47,024 --> 01:55:47,944
Well, thank you.

1534
01:55:48,024 --> 01:55:48,864
Don't use their money.

1535
01:55:48,984 --> 01:55:49,284
Hold on a minute.

1536
01:55:49,424 --> 01:55:50,184
Don't use their money.

1537
01:55:50,384 --> 01:55:51,744
I'm just going to reiterate.

1538
01:55:51,964 --> 01:55:52,724
Don't use their money.

1539
01:55:53,804 --> 01:55:56,244
Don't sacrifice your kids at the altar of education

1540
01:55:56,244 --> 01:55:59,124
and stay on your toes for the next few years.

1541
01:55:59,724 --> 01:56:00,644
And stack stats.

1542
01:56:01,524 --> 01:56:02,344
That's number one.

1543
01:56:02,444 --> 01:56:03,444
Yeah, stack stats.

1544
01:56:03,884 --> 01:56:05,004
Stay humble, stack stats.

1545
01:56:05,124 --> 01:56:06,264
But Tim, thank you very much.

1546
01:56:06,504 --> 01:56:07,844
What you're doing is very important.

1547
01:56:07,844 --> 01:56:11,264
And I really appreciate you and your work at the Free Cities.

1548
01:56:11,604 --> 01:56:16,644
And having to get to know you over the last five years or so has been a privilege and a pleasure.

1549
01:56:16,864 --> 01:56:18,004
And I appreciate it. Thank you.

1550
01:56:18,044 --> 01:56:20,544
And you, mate. I do very much appreciate our friendship.

1551
01:56:21,024 --> 01:56:22,104
Is it five years, really?

1552
01:56:22,664 --> 01:56:30,004
2020, we signed. November 2019 is when we first had that call with Safer Dean on his course.

1553
01:56:30,404 --> 01:56:31,304
Weird, isn't it?

1554
01:56:31,344 --> 01:56:42,748
Yeah How things have changed It really has I mean I can believe Do you remember talking about 100K Bitcoin Do you remember that Do you remember how stupid that sounded

1555
01:56:42,748 --> 01:56:45,828
and how there was going to be a big party at Sailor's House and stuff?

1556
01:56:45,988 --> 01:56:46,128
Yeah.

1557
01:56:46,388 --> 01:56:49,848
And then suddenly you're at Sailor's House at a 100K party going,

1558
01:56:50,068 --> 01:56:50,708
is this real?

1559
01:56:50,948 --> 01:56:51,148
Yeah.

1560
01:56:51,468 --> 01:56:53,728
And all the other stuff, ETFs.

1561
01:56:54,208 --> 01:56:55,868
I remember people talking about that.

1562
01:56:55,868 --> 01:56:58,788
I remember people saying it's going to a million,

1563
01:56:59,068 --> 01:57:01,388
it's going to 10, then it's going to one,

1564
01:57:01,468 --> 01:57:04,308
it's going to 10, it's going to 100, now it's going to a million.

1565
01:57:04,508 --> 01:57:07,568
Now everyone admits openly it's going to a million.

1566
01:57:08,048 --> 01:57:14,088
Everyone, like NBC, like Trump, I don't know who.

1567
01:57:14,708 --> 01:57:17,848
It's not weird to say that stuff out loud.

1568
01:57:18,268 --> 01:57:18,988
It's bizarre.

1569
01:57:19,108 --> 01:57:20,268
It wasn't that long ago.

1570
01:57:20,568 --> 01:57:21,348
It really wasn't.

1571
01:57:21,528 --> 01:57:22,048
Think of an eye.

1572
01:57:23,508 --> 01:57:24,188
Yeah, more.

1573
01:57:24,648 --> 01:57:25,968
Good luck anyway.

1574
01:57:26,488 --> 01:57:27,808
And thanks for coming in again.

1575
01:57:28,388 --> 01:57:28,828
Cheers, mate.

1576
01:57:28,928 --> 01:57:29,328
Appreciate it.

1577
01:57:29,328 --> 01:57:30,488
I enjoy these little chats.

1578
01:57:31,468 --> 01:57:35,368
I think this time I literally have come across way crazier than you.

1579
01:57:37,188 --> 01:57:38,328
Well, let's go get some dinner.

1580
01:57:38,468 --> 01:57:39,188
Yes, nice one.

1581
01:57:39,288 --> 01:57:39,588
Thank you, mate.

1582
01:57:39,588 --> 01:57:40,128
Nice one.

1583
01:57:40,268 --> 01:57:40,608
Thank you.

1584
01:57:40,608 --> 01:57:40,668
Thank you.