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coming to you on a Wednesday.

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First Wednesday of it in quite a while, Matt.

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The show must go on.

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The show must go on.

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We will be traveling to Nashville separately

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for the Imagine If conference later this week.

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So we decided, hey, let's get it over with Wednesday,

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the FOMC meeting day.

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I imagine we're going to miss the announcement.

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because of timing here.

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I think we should get word at 1 p.m. Eastern.

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Maybe we'll catch it on the tail end of the show

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about the rate cuts, if they materialize,

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and how big or small they are.

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I'm tired, I'm not going to lie.

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I was in D.C. last night, got home at 1 a.m.,

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and a little groggy today.

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How you doing, Matt?

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The hair looks good.

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fresh cut.

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It's time to change it up.

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Cut off a lot of air, man.

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Gotta get ready for the cattle bike.

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The cattle bike's upon us.

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The cattle bike is upon us.

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Yeah, a lot going on out there.

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A lot going on.

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Let's just jump right into it.

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Let's go to Clark's dashboard.

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Price pump this week. Price Bitcoin is at 115,700 cuck bucks. One cuck buck is going to get you 864 sats. We're at a $2.3 trillion market cap on the dot. We're at block height 915,125, which means we are currently 139 blocks away from the next difficulty retarget, which is estimated to be a 4.8% upwards adjustment.

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So that should happen roughly 25 hours from now,

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tomorrow, September 18th, 2025.

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There are currently 9,164 transactions.

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In Clark's mempool, if we go over to mempool.space,

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there are 128,585 transactions.

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And on this note, I don't know if it was Rind,

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now who was tweeting it but um there's been a lot of discussion about the sub

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one sap per v byte transaction fees being accepted by

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the mempools of mining pools and mempool.space as you can tell um

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and somebody ran the numbers i don't know if it was orange surf or

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ringed l oh it was orange surf

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no it was not

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I think it was Rinsdale

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long story short I can't find the tweet

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since the sub

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mempools have become

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normalized at the pool

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level miners have

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collected I believe 7.74

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in fees

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more than they otherwise would have if they weren't

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accepting that. Oh, that's higher than I expected.

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Yeah, I mean, it's important. I think it's important to

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realize here that

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most nodes by default

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are not relaying any transactions

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under one set per byte,

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but they are valid per consensus

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rules.

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I guess there probably are

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some modified nodes

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that are relaying them.

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I know Peter Todd has a project

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called Libre Relay

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that I think has

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looser relay policies.

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I'm not sure if they're also

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relaying sub one sap per byte.

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And obviously you can also

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send it directly to miners.

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But they're valid

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per consensus rules

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and they're getting mined.

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They are.

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And I was wrong.

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It wasn't either of those two.

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It was Mononaut.

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Logan pulled the tweet.

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5,000 blocks later,

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here's an update on

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summer mining economics yeah as of height 915 000 pools and mine a total of 9 million 2 455 subset

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transactions across 4 743 blocks earning an additional 7.49 bitcoin in fees for only

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only 1951 mega V bytes of otherwise unused block space.

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So it seems to be more profitable.

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I, yeah, that's fascinating.

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That's way higher than I expected.

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I mean, I still think miners kind of shot themselves in the foot.

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I mean, you're telling me these people wouldn't pay one separate byte.

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Uh, probably not, but cat's out of the bag now.

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So who's making actions?

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Like I wanted to pay 10 cents instead of 20 cents.

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Yeah.

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So they're probably going to make a double.

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when they're full and there's a ton of demand,

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that's going to get pressed up so might as well scrape up as much revenue as possible during

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empty mempool periods no but you know what i'm saying like if like these people that are making

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0.3 sat per byte transaction sat per v by transactions you think they wouldn't make a

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one sat per v byte like it's not that big of a difference no hey so like is this is this net

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new revenue is that actually net new revenue the seven bitcoin or would it have been more likely

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14 Bitcoin if they hadn't raced to the bottom and lowered the rate. I mean, it's all speculation,

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but, and once one of them does it, it kind of forces the hand of the others. So I think you

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could kind of argue that they, maybe they didn't even have a decision to make once a large, I think

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F2 pool started. But whoever, it was like F2 pool or amp pool. So it was like,

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50 of the hash or 20 of the hash starts mining sub one sap per byte and you don't do it then

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you're going to miss out um so maybe it's a moot point i see soap miners at 21 000 sets

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asking if i sold my hair for sats no i actually paid paid someone to take it off my hands um

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there's a lot of hair or i see great gee sap 21 000 sets shout out to the young dads out there

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They're hustling and stacking like their life depends on it.

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I love how we have a soap manufacturer and a ghee manufacturer are our two top zaps so far.

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What is it?

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Nose to tail.

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Nose to tail.

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Get all of it.

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Mononaut, if you're listening or anybody paying attention to the dynamics of the subset per V-byte transaction fees,

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fees uh in mempools would be interested to run that opportunity cost analysis

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that was a really good point like how do we know that it's actually an additional 7.49 bitcoin

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like what those trend those transaction problem if there was an inability to send a subset

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per v by transaction like you can make the argument it would be higher right but it is

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within valid consensus rules.

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We have MAD21, ZAP21,000SATS, subfreaks, he says.

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And I mean, obviously, it wouldn't be in RHR

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if we didn't talk about NADS versus Core every week.

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And obviously, there's some parallels here

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where large, large op returns can be mined,

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even if defaults aren't changed

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and the majority of the relay network

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isn't actually relaying them,

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which is what we're seeing with sub-1SAT transactions.

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another mempool.space team member

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ran the numbers on that.

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I thought this was pretty interesting.

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I retweeted it, Arn Serif.

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This was actually from Arn Serif, confirmed.

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Logan pulled up the just 0.007%

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of op return outputs created this August were larger than 80 bytes.

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How intriguing. So I think this is

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pertinent, important, empirical data

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of how the actual problem is.

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Because depending on people's perspective, they have two different takeaways

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from that.

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How would you describe the two different takeaways?

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The knots take away from that is that filters work. And because relay defaults are set at 80, we don't see transactions happening over that size.

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And then the core side or the relaxing transaction-related fault side would say that even if we relax it, operaturn is significantly more expensive than embedding it in the chain in other ways.

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So we probably will not see an increase in operaturns regardless.

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Yeah, that's a good point.

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So those are the two opinions.

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I would say that probably just because of the Streisand effect of everyone talking about this every single fucking day, we probably will see more upper terms regardless of the defaults change or not.

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At least in the short to medium term, just because everyone's talking about it and people like to troll.

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I see map 21 zap 21,000 sets.

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He says sub freaks.

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Thank you, sir.

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appreciate you

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appreciate all of you

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yeah the Shrysan effect is going to be

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that's going to be the most annoying thing

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calling it now

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core version 0.30

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is going to get released

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you're going to get op return trolls

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that automatically

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send transactions with op returns

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at the limit that is set

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by default in the new core implementation,

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the new core version.

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Oh, I don't know about that.

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That'd be expensive fucking transactions.

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I think there's people who are...

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I like to rebel in schadenfreude,

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and we'll do that.

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And then people will point out,

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see, look, we told you it was a terrible problem.

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And then similar to what happened around the last halving

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with the ordinals, inscriptions, NFT bullshit,

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it'll fade pretty quickly after.

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I don't think we're going to be talking about it in a year.

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Neither do I.

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Get in here, trolls.

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I know you're all going to say we're co-opted.

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Yeah, it is crazy.

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All right, let's get to the list.

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Fed rate cut, question mark.

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Is it coming?

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Looking at PolyMarket's market for this particular question right now,

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Fed decision in September, question mark.

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Right now, 25 BIP decrease is sitting at 91%,

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50 BIP decrease at 7%, no change at 2.3%,

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and a 25 BIP increase at 0.1%.

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So if we're using Polymarket as a predictive tool to try to guess what Jerome Powell is going to do in a little less than an hour, it seems like we're going to get a 25-bip federal funds rate target cut.

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Is that when it happens?

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Yeah, I believe the FOMC meeting is technically at 1 o'clock.

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The press conference is at 2.30, but typically the report...

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comes out like an hour before.

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And then you'll have Brumpal take the stage

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and answer questions about it.

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Do you think any of the Fed chairs

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are betting on Polymarket right now?

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I think it would be a severe conflict of interest.

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But you know, like that's the thesis

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of why prediction markets work

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is because ethically dubious people

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will bet on insider information

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so that they're more accurate.

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The whole theory of prediction markets

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is basically incentivizing people

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to be ethically dubious

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to leak the information ahead of time

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for their own personal gain.

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Yes and no, we'll not be surprised.

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So how do you think the price of Bitcoin?

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Do you think it's priced in,

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this 25 bps cut?

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Let's say it's a 25 bps cut.

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Let's have a little fun speculating.

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What's the price of Bitcoin tomorrow?

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obviously freaks to stay on one stack sets but

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let's have a little fun i think it i mean looking at if we

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if we what are we at right now one believe in the

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the probabilistic certainty displayed on poly market at 91

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percent it's pretty it's a pretty confident prediction market right there

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um and so yeah i bet it's priced in already quote unquote nothing's ever

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priced in, but I think

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traders are priced in.

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I would not be shocked if we sell the news event.

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Yeah, sell the news event

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at 1.13 tomorrow.

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You think we'll be at 1.13 tomorrow?

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Yeah, it's just

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a short, small dump.

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A little small dump. Do you want to bet on it?

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No.

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No.

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I do not.

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What do you think?

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You think we pamp?

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it could be it's probably 25 bips and uh it could be a selvin news yeah this is why i don't want to

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bet on it because um i think the rate cut is less well have less of an effect on the price

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than um comments that drum pal makes particularly around adding something to the dual mandate

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the third mandate yeah the third mandate if he expands on the third mandate it becomes pretty

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clear here logan well the third mandate is yield curve control right yeah yield curve control but

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in any other term that you can use besides yield curve control that's uh yeah i mean i think uh

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uh i i i think they probably going to signal that we it we starting a rate cutting regime And I think the market is not fully efficient

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And I think we probably go up this afternoon into the evening.

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But obviously, Stamble and Stacks ads don't trade on the short term.

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I guess we'll see what happens

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I was kind of hoping

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we were going to rip tomorrow but it's just such a

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we have such a hectic schedule

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over the next three days

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that we just wanted to make sure we got it out there for you freaks

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yeah

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Arthur Hayes surfaced this

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from Bloomberg

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last night

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fed third mandate forces bond traders to rethink age old rules

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the Federal Reserve's dual mandate of price stability

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and maximum employment may be supplemented by a third mandate to pursue moderate long-term

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interest rates. As cited by Donald Trump's pick for Fed Governor Stephen Mirren, who I believe

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was officially confirmed earlier this week, the mention of the third mandate has sparked debate

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amongst analysts, with some seeing it as a sign that the administration intends to wield monetary

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policy to influence longer-term bond yields. The potential for the Treasury and Fed to intervene in

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the bond market to bring down long-dated interest rates has raised concerns about the risk

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of adverse effects, particularly inflation and the erosion of the Fed's

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independence. I think comments around this

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third mandate specifically will have the most

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pronounced effects on the price of Bitcoin

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and other assets. I think that's what the market's really waiting for.

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Just forward-looking statements in general, right?

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Yeah. I mean, meanwhile, we're in a quiet recession.

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I don't know. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out, but

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risk reward wise, like, I mean, I think Bitcoin looks fantastic here.

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It really does.

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I don't know where else I would put my money.

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My conviction only grows stronger every day.

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We got orange in the chat saying 120 by end of week. Is that orange surf?

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that's the fake chat

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the fake

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if you want to

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live chat

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either go to

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zap.stream

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or

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download Primal

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in your favorite

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app store

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yeah another thing

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you don't have it on the list

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but we were talking about

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mining earlier

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and I think it would be

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remiss of us

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not to touch on the fact

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that over the last week

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the Bitcoin network

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has averaged over

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a zeta hash

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of hash rate

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I believe this is the first time

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obviously

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24 hour estimates

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have

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pinged one zeta hash, but you

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I like to get longer term data

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longer term estimations to make it concrete. And so if you go to mempool.space

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slash mining, you'll see that over the last week we've averaged one zeta hash.

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It was 1.02 zeta hash a couple of days ago. And this is pretty

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profound. I mean, I think to put that in the context

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what does a zeta hash mean? It means that in aggregate

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around the world. Anybody that is running a computer, these days mostly ASICs, that are

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running the HashCash SHA-256 algorithm, they're producing hashes in an attempt to find a hash

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below the current difficulty target. They find that hash. It allows them to add a block of

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transaction so the network can get rewarded in Bitcoin. So one zeta hash means that all those

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computers running that algorithm around the world are creating one sextillion, sextillion

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hashes per second,

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which is pretty wild to think about.

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Pretty big.

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Yeah.

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Sextillion.

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That's like a number, right?

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What does that come at?

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It's like a thousand,

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million, billion, trillion,

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quadrillion.

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Is that what's sextillion after that?

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Or is there one million?

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Your question is how many zeros?

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Yeah.

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That's Maple.

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How many zeros

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And sextillion

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You'd have

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Heptillion or septillion

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As five

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And then six

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21 zeros

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21 zeros

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Oh

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I don't know

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There's different naming conventions for sextillion

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It says 21 or 36

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How could it be two answers

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is there like an American sextillion

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oh yeah short

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scale is English speaking countries so 21

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zeros

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21 zeros every second

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which is pretty insane

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and highlights the

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the insanity of

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of cryptography

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in hashing the fact that

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it's pretty insane

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yeah

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love to see it number go up yeah and this is i read a newsletter about on monday but um

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yeah i think it's extremely profound considering post china mining man the network hash rate fell

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to around 82 um exahash per second and that was in july of 21 so in four short years

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hash rate has, I believe, the number is like 12.3x'd,

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which is insane to think it took

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11, 12 years to go from zero to where it was

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post-Chinese mining ban. It's 12x'd in four years.

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So I think this is where the signal is, or at least some of the signal

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is, is in the mining market. And despite the fact that hash price is

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relatively low, Bitcoin price has been hovering in this range.

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hash rates getting plugged in.

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And I was talking to somebody at an event last night that is convinced that

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it's Tether plugging in a lot of this hash rate and had some interesting

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for a bit. I mean, I don't, I think that's been,

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hasn't really been a secret they've been talking about it.

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And they have a strong incentive to do it at a break even or slight loss

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price point.

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I think they think of it as like existential insurance,

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considering they hold so much Bitcoin and rely on it so heavily.

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Yeah.

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Very interesting conversations around mining last night.

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Interesting comments on Proto,

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whether or not they'll actually be competitive with Bitmain and MicroBT.

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person I spoke with said

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they think Protos are just self-mine

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with all their machines.

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Interesting take.

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I think the price point

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and the risk

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and the vendor lock-in

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with the chassis

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set up and the uncertainty

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of chip efficiency in the future

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proto is expecting their um their end clients to take on too much too much risk with vendor lock-in

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that may not make sense for rational actors i mean if they can't convince anyone then maybe

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but it seems like they've already convinced what it was corsai that didn't you go to a

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corsai facility while you're down there that was already running yeah yeah if they can convince

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anyone to do it besides themselves like it's got to be strictly better for them from a business

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point of view because they're not taking the risk like mining is such a brutal fucking business

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they're a huge company employees they lack the specialization to like i don't know i they they

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could potentially build out a vertical mining arm but that's a lot that's a lot of fucking work

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and it's a very difficult business selling picks and shovels like selling the hardware

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is strictly speaking like a much better business yeah yeah i mean look at our like

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two of my favorite 1031 portcos is giga giga and upstream and it's because they sell the

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storage containers and the generators like they're not actually mining

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no it's such a great business to be in no yeah i'm still digesting the conversation

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but i thought it was an interesting perspective um when i had i mean if they have to prove it out

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then it's a loss leader kind of to eventually majority of business being selling the hardware

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right yeah but if they don't have to prove it out then why do it and uh i don't know like miners in

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general tend to be a little bit higher up the risk curve they're willing to take chances the status

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quo isn't great for i think there's a decent amount of miners that would take a risk on

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this novel hardware um at the very least just to diversify their risk from uh micro bt and

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bitmain yeah one other comment you know surfaced from this conversation

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and then we can move on to the next topic,

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was the inability by equity analysts specifically

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to correctly price the publicly traded miners

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in terms of who's actually running an efficient business.

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They're not just public miners, but miners in general.

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Valuations are still very...

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The analysis on the valuation is still very rudimentary

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and haphazard this person would put forth.

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Companies that are running relatively lean,

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with low SG&A, low OPEX,

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and high profitability aren't being rewarded

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in terms of premium to their equity value

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compared to competitors who are not as efficient

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and spend a bunch of money and aren't as profitable,

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which I thought was interesting.

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It makes a lot of sense.

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that um yeah i mean i think yeah go on what were you saying i think it makes a lot of sense that

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you'd be invited it makes sense to me that this there is some there is some uh misunderstanding

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on behalf of people um people diligencing and valuing these companies yeah i mean i think just

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across the spectrum on bitcoin companies uh people are still trying to figure out how to value them

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I mean that's part of our edge right

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yeah

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I see Bitcoin Ranger zapped

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11,000 sats

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and then he has a

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a Google

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doc link about paper Bitcoin

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Google doc link

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no Google doc links in the chat

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I don't like clicking Google doc

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links

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CB zapped 42,000 sats

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the Midwest is building local

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at the end Bitcoin conference this

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saturday 10-4 during the blue brews and bbq festival in farmington mo missouri right oh and

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it's 10-4 is 10-2-4 lineup includes texas slim junior burdick heather seals dale cooper and

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amanda winn discussing community education abundance and food security then he has a primal link

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Primal

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chat is lively this week

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dude it's like

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we shipped some

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like it's

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being iterated on

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on the go as we go

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it's already a lot smoother

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than it was last week

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feels like the momentum

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I'm ready for the cattle bike

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the cattle bike is here

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that's fucking good

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I'm putting

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Miljana if you're listening

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I sent you a screenshot

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did you see

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BTC pins earlier

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was like

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oh is Powell going on a date

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with three men

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yeah

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a mandate

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alright

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let me give this

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bug report

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and then we'll get back to it

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alright

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What's the bug report?

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You should be able to see it. You're in the group.

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I just sent you that.

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Oh.

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Oh, Firefox.

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All right. Moving on the list.

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This was a big topic of discussion yesterday because it was truly mind-boggling

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that the Attorney General of the United States would come out and say this,

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but she sat down with Katie Miller,

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who I believe is Stephen Miller's wife.

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Oh, is that who that was?

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I believe so.

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I could be wrong.

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I could be wrong.

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Oh, that makes it even more interesting

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if that's who that was.

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Right?

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Let me verify that.

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I'm pretty sure it's the case, but...

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I mean, I don't think this was that surprising.

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Oh, no, there's another.

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It's not her.

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Stephen.

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Miller's wife's name is Katie Miller, but this is a different Katie Miller.

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Who is the director of the White House.

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Different Katie Miller.

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Not Stephen Miller's wife.

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Oh, wait.

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I'm confused.

510
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Is this...

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Stephen Miller's wife?

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Somebody in the comments should know.

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According to Maple, there's 2,000 Katie Millers in the United States.

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Yeah.

515
00:30:06,268 --> 00:30:07,688
That's actually less than I expected.

516
00:30:08,888 --> 00:30:09,828
No, it is Stephen Miller.

517
00:30:11,028 --> 00:30:12,448
It is Stephen Miller's wife.

518
00:30:16,028 --> 00:30:18,708
Well, anyway, I didn't think – you were actually surprised by this?

519
00:30:21,248 --> 00:30:24,588
Yeah, I mean, this is like literally –

520
00:30:24,588 --> 00:30:25,848
I mean, it's fucked up.

521
00:30:25,848 --> 00:30:29,888
fighting against for more than a decade.

522
00:30:30,108 --> 00:30:31,708
There's no such thing as hate speech.

523
00:30:33,028 --> 00:30:36,748
That's what BLM, and I mean, this is a term,

524
00:30:36,948 --> 00:30:41,088
hate speech itself is a term that was birthed out of the halls

525
00:30:41,088 --> 00:30:46,488
of woke universities and Marxist indoctrination camps.

526
00:30:48,008 --> 00:30:51,728
And the fact that at least Pam Bondi

527
00:30:51,728 --> 00:30:55,528
is trying to use the term to weaponize it against

528
00:30:55,528 --> 00:30:59,968
The left now is just, again, we've warned about it time and time again.

529
00:31:00,028 --> 00:31:01,308
Be careful what you wish for.

530
00:31:02,028 --> 00:31:22,176
But I would have thought at least that the Trump administration would have the wherewithal to understand that using Charlie Kirk death to introduce hate Dude power corrupts Would really fly with people Power corrupts and people in power like to control speech

531
00:31:23,356 --> 00:31:27,416
It's a, I think it's a cross partisan issue.

532
00:31:27,916 --> 00:31:28,756
It's like, who's just,

533
00:31:28,856 --> 00:31:31,416
whoever's in power wants to control people and control their speech.

534
00:31:31,436 --> 00:31:33,056
And they always look for excuses for it.

535
00:31:34,876 --> 00:31:38,236
So I will say before Kirk's assassination,

536
00:31:38,656 --> 00:31:47,536
And I was waiting for the other shoe to drop in terms of our new administration to try and control speech even more.

537
00:31:47,636 --> 00:31:53,256
I mean, we are seeing the different KYC rules come into place, protecting the children and whatnot.

538
00:31:53,776 --> 00:32:01,156
But then immediately following them arresting this alleged assassin, the writing seemed to be on the wall.

539
00:32:01,156 --> 00:32:03,476
It was very clear what the narrative was.

540
00:32:03,476 --> 00:32:11,076
The narrative was you had a young kid who got radicalized on the internet and that we need more controls on the internet.

541
00:32:12,036 --> 00:32:20,136
And the problem with this is it's a good excuse because it's probably true.

542
00:32:20,616 --> 00:32:22,596
This is an issue we've talked about in the past.

543
00:32:22,596 --> 00:32:31,716
The modern internet, the digital age, the social phenomenon is really bad for people.

544
00:32:31,716 --> 00:32:38,896
and it's bad for adults but it's especially bad for kids um and now we're seeing it being used as

545
00:32:38,896 --> 00:32:45,896
an excuse to further control speech now i like i i actually had i had drafted a post about this on

546
00:32:45,896 --> 00:32:49,476
saturday and then i was like it's too soon after his death like i don't want to speculate on it

547
00:32:49,476 --> 00:32:57,776
um but to me like as soon as we started to see like oh discord chats you know trans radicalization

548
00:32:57,776 --> 00:33:02,636
he was a reddit kid did you see like the they interviewed someone he was like oh he's like

549
00:33:02,636 --> 00:33:09,216
your typical reddit guy like all the right all on that side and then they pulled the trigger and

550
00:33:09,216 --> 00:33:14,976
actually tried to or at least are claiming that they're going to act on it and then also on the

551
00:33:14,976 --> 00:33:23,236
right you have all the doxing and the um getting people fired from schools and calling on elon to

552
00:33:23,236 --> 00:33:24,416
ban accounts and whatnot.

553
00:33:25,316 --> 00:33:27,056
So they had like the cover for it.

554
00:33:27,096 --> 00:33:28,776
It kind of built up relatively quickly.

555
00:33:29,356 --> 00:33:30,496
But I did put a tweet.

556
00:33:30,856 --> 00:33:32,136
I agree that it's like,

557
00:33:32,196 --> 00:33:33,136
it's an absolute disgrace

558
00:33:33,136 --> 00:33:34,536
that they're doing it in Charlie's name.

559
00:33:34,776 --> 00:33:35,496
I mean, I put a,

560
00:33:35,496 --> 00:33:36,396
I linked a tweet there

561
00:33:36,396 --> 00:33:38,636
where he specifically calls out hate speech.

562
00:33:41,996 --> 00:33:44,936
Like he would 100% be against this as a policy.

563
00:33:46,936 --> 00:33:47,096
Yeah.

564
00:33:48,136 --> 00:33:48,896
Logan, you have the tweet?

565
00:33:53,236 --> 00:33:55,816
Logan. It's so fucked up. It's like he knew it was going to happen.

566
00:33:59,156 --> 00:34:02,296
Hate speech does not exist legally in America.

567
00:34:02,816 --> 00:34:06,276
There's ugly speech. There's gross speech. There's evil speech.

568
00:34:06,896 --> 00:34:10,376
And all of it is protected by the First Amendment. Keep America free.

569
00:34:12,056 --> 00:34:14,196
That was 2024. That was last year.

570
00:34:14,916 --> 00:34:18,776
Yeah. And just to tie a knot on this,

571
00:34:18,776 --> 00:34:19,896
Spam Bondi has since.

572
00:34:20,096 --> 00:34:24,776
There was an incredible backlash from these comments that leaked or didn't leak,

573
00:34:24,876 --> 00:34:28,176
but were published yesterday afternoon.

574
00:34:30,456 --> 00:34:33,376
I mean, particularly from the right, like, what the hell are you doing?

575
00:34:33,576 --> 00:34:36,696
She has since walked back the comments saying, no, I meant threats.

576
00:34:37,556 --> 00:34:39,096
Wait, she didn't walk it back.

577
00:34:39,476 --> 00:34:39,916
She did.

578
00:34:40,436 --> 00:34:40,796
She did.

579
00:34:40,916 --> 00:34:41,896
She doubled down.

580
00:34:42,936 --> 00:34:43,476
She said, no.

581
00:34:43,476 --> 00:34:48,576
Well, she walked it back to, I mean, threats, which is not enough.

582
00:34:48,776 --> 00:34:51,176
Because I think this gets to a conversation.

583
00:34:51,336 --> 00:34:52,376
I'm sure you've seen it like the.

584
00:34:52,536 --> 00:34:52,796
No, no.

585
00:34:52,836 --> 00:34:53,756
Where's the statement?

586
00:34:53,976 --> 00:34:55,536
Let's look up the statement that she said.

587
00:34:56,076 --> 00:34:56,956
It's not on her.

588
00:34:57,036 --> 00:34:57,996
It's not on her webpage.

589
00:34:58,096 --> 00:34:59,216
Other people posted it, right?

590
00:34:59,836 --> 00:35:01,836
She went on like Fox or something.

591
00:35:03,116 --> 00:35:03,436
I don't know.

592
00:35:03,436 --> 00:35:04,016
Maybe she posted.

593
00:35:06,556 --> 00:35:07,096
Oh, yeah.

594
00:35:07,116 --> 00:35:07,376
Here.

595
00:35:08,516 --> 00:35:09,576
It's got community noted.

596
00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:15,136
She said hate speech that crosses the line into threats of violence is not protected by the First Amendment.

597
00:35:15,136 --> 00:35:15,996
It's a crime.

598
00:35:16,776 --> 00:35:18,136
For far too long.

599
00:35:18,136 --> 00:35:20,036
we've watched a radical left, normalized threats,

600
00:35:20,136 --> 00:35:22,376
call for assassinations, and cheer on political violence.

601
00:35:22,476 --> 00:35:23,296
That era is over.

602
00:35:24,396 --> 00:35:26,516
Under 18 U.S.C. 875,

603
00:35:26,716 --> 00:35:28,736
is a federal crime to transmit any communication

604
00:35:28,736 --> 00:35:30,716
containing any threat to kidnap any person

605
00:35:30,716 --> 00:35:32,616
or any threat to injure the person of another.

606
00:35:33,696 --> 00:35:38,236
Likewise, 18 U.S.C. 876-115,

607
00:35:38,396 --> 00:35:40,116
making a felony to threaten public officials,

608
00:35:40,276 --> 00:35:41,596
members of Congress, or their families.

609
00:35:42,376 --> 00:35:43,696
You cannot call for someone's murder.

610
00:35:43,816 --> 00:35:45,156
You cannot swat a member of Congress.

611
00:35:45,276 --> 00:35:46,656
You cannot dox a conservative family

612
00:35:46,656 --> 00:35:48,316
think will be brushed off as free speech.

613
00:35:48,456 --> 00:35:50,196
These acts are punishable crimes

614
00:35:50,196 --> 00:35:52,416
and every single threat will be met with the full force of law.

615
00:35:53,616 --> 00:35:55,896
Free speech protects ideas, debate, even dissent,

616
00:35:55,956 --> 00:35:57,836
but it does not and will never protect violence.

617
00:35:57,976 --> 00:36:00,596
It's clear that violent rhetoric is designed to silence others

618
00:36:00,596 --> 00:36:02,016
from voicing conservative ideals.

619
00:36:02,776 --> 00:36:05,096
We will never be silenced, not for our families,

620
00:36:05,216 --> 00:36:06,816
not for our freedoms, and never for Charlie.

621
00:36:06,816 --> 00:36:08,456
His legacy will not be erased.

622
00:36:09,076 --> 00:36:12,936
Yeah, I mean, so I guess it is a little bit of a walk back,

623
00:36:13,756 --> 00:36:16,076
but it's more like a legalese walk back.

624
00:36:16,656 --> 00:36:22,556
I mean, I agree that you shouldn't be calling for assassinations of people.

625
00:36:22,776 --> 00:36:27,416
I don't think that is protected speech, I think.

626
00:36:27,756 --> 00:36:32,776
But it's kind of like the left's words are violence thing.

627
00:36:33,776 --> 00:36:37,016
And so then you see how enforcement plays, right?

628
00:36:37,016 --> 00:36:47,396
And the crazy thing is you can bring cases against people that lose in court and still quell speech and ruin their lives.

629
00:36:49,356 --> 00:36:56,396
Or maybe not ruin their lives, but make their lives much more difficult if you have the AG coming after a big target.

630
00:36:56,536 --> 00:36:59,676
So we'll see how it goes.

631
00:36:59,676 --> 00:37:04,116
You can clearly tell that it's a very partisan statement.

632
00:37:07,016 --> 00:37:12,056
And I'm, you know, definitely don't side with the Democrats here.

633
00:37:13,836 --> 00:37:27,036
But like when you start to see partisan, when you start to see partisan action coming from the government, it's usually a pretty bad sign.

634
00:37:27,036 --> 00:37:28,496
So it's like, who's going to get targeted here?

635
00:37:28,556 --> 00:37:31,816
It's going to be like, it's going to be like damn influencers, right?

636
00:37:31,816 --> 00:37:36,396
It's going to be like people with big platforms.

637
00:37:37,696 --> 00:37:38,956
Yeah, well, this is where it gets murky.

638
00:37:39,256 --> 00:37:45,176
I think the two individuals who are squarely in the middle of the target right now

639
00:37:45,176 --> 00:37:47,756
are Hassan Piker and that guy Destiny.

640
00:37:49,236 --> 00:37:57,336
If you see the clips, they are actively calling for people to stab, shoot, and termite.

641
00:37:58,596 --> 00:37:59,116
Yeah.

642
00:37:59,116 --> 00:38:02,596
but as it pertains to

643
00:38:02,596 --> 00:38:05,636
like federal government action

644
00:38:05,636 --> 00:38:06,616
like

645
00:38:06,616 --> 00:38:08,596
like I think

646
00:38:08,596 --> 00:38:10,616
especially with how big those two guys platform

647
00:38:10,616 --> 00:38:12,396
is like I've never watched their shows but I've

648
00:38:12,396 --> 00:38:14,496
obviously seen people talk

649
00:38:14,496 --> 00:38:16,456
about them on X and

650
00:38:16,456 --> 00:38:18,496
other other platforms I believe

651
00:38:18,496 --> 00:38:20,596
they have audiences that that begin

652
00:38:20,596 --> 00:38:22,176
to peer into the

653
00:38:22,176 --> 00:38:24,196
did you know that

654
00:38:24,196 --> 00:38:26,436
existed before this

655
00:38:26,436 --> 00:38:27,656
that who

656
00:38:27,656 --> 00:38:29,676
the Hassan guy

657
00:38:29,676 --> 00:38:32,336
I was aware of him but like

658
00:38:32,336 --> 00:38:34,556
never I had no idea he existed

659
00:38:34,556 --> 00:38:36,196
until this week yeah

660
00:38:36,196 --> 00:38:38,696
but yeah I mean he's actively

661
00:38:38,696 --> 00:38:40,756
calling people to gut conservatives

662
00:38:40,756 --> 00:38:41,636
and let their blood

663
00:38:41,636 --> 00:38:44,016
flow in the streets which

664
00:38:44,016 --> 00:38:46,716
who knows I mean he pulled like

665
00:38:46,716 --> 00:38:47,916
a in Minecraft

666
00:38:47,916 --> 00:38:50,476
sort of move

667
00:38:50,476 --> 00:38:51,836
on

668
00:38:51,836 --> 00:38:54,716
on one of his streams

669
00:38:54,716 --> 00:38:55,796
but

670
00:38:55,796 --> 00:38:59,936
But yeah, I mean, I think that's where you get into muddy territory.

671
00:39:00,176 --> 00:39:02,876
If you have that big of an audience, that much influence,

672
00:39:03,076 --> 00:39:04,676
is that actually inciting violence?

673
00:39:05,316 --> 00:39:07,756
Were shows like this, and he said this years ago,

674
00:39:07,816 --> 00:39:09,576
I think that particular quote,

675
00:39:10,496 --> 00:39:13,876
are they contributing to the normalization of the idea

676
00:39:13,876 --> 00:39:18,016
that you should attack your political rivals physically

677
00:39:18,016 --> 00:39:21,916
and attack their lives specifically?

678
00:39:22,636 --> 00:39:25,036
And yeah, it's very weird.

679
00:39:25,036 --> 00:39:40,436
But the federal government, I think you said that as it pertains to the canceling of liberals who came out and expressed revelry in the aftermath of the assassination of Charlie Kirk.

680
00:39:40,436 --> 00:39:59,816
I actually think that's fair game too in terms of if you're an employer and you have freedom of association with the people that you hire and you believe that their views are a bad representation of the business or the school or the hospital, whatever it may be.

681
00:40:01,516 --> 00:40:02,816
I think that's fair game.

682
00:40:04,356 --> 00:40:06,256
I mean, I think those people are disgusting.

683
00:40:06,516 --> 00:40:07,716
I think they can go fuck themselves.

684
00:40:07,716 --> 00:40:18,776
But I think a lot of people that are supporting their firing were complaining about similar things happening to the right, like a year and a half ago, two years ago.

685
00:40:19,996 --> 00:40:25,556
And I think there's a little bit of, I mean, there, and it's not like isolated cases.

686
00:40:25,556 --> 00:40:29,856
There's like lists, like people are like making lists, automating things.

687
00:40:31,476 --> 00:40:35,896
At first, it started with like people that made particularly egregious comments.

688
00:40:35,896 --> 00:40:43,456
and then it's like gone down and down and down to i don't know like is a minor celebration still

689
00:40:43,456 --> 00:40:47,476
fucked up yeah minor celebration is still incredibly fucked up but like there's a very

690
00:40:47,476 --> 00:40:55,816
long list that are being made yeah very weird times very times to say the least and like is

691
00:40:55,816 --> 00:41:02,536
that protected yeah like i mean i guess like you can't that's obviously not something illegal

692
00:41:02,536 --> 00:41:07,836
calling up boycotting employers, stuff like that, you know, vote with your wallet,

693
00:41:09,036 --> 00:41:14,096
vote with your mouth and vote with your wallet. But it's like this social media,

694
00:41:14,416 --> 00:41:17,616
there's so many different aspects of this social media, like mob culture,

695
00:41:18,536 --> 00:41:25,116
whether it's like on the conspiracy side or whether it's on like the cancellation side or

696
00:41:25,116 --> 00:41:28,356
the harassment side. And then like,

697
00:41:30,356 --> 00:41:35,156
I think there's obvious cases where people are threatening violence and those,

698
00:41:35,256 --> 00:41:38,236
you know, should be dealt with, but then there's a lot of middle ground.

699
00:41:41,236 --> 00:41:43,096
Where it's not so obvious.

700
00:41:43,536 --> 00:41:46,116
And so what we're going to see is we're going to see vague enforcement.

701
00:41:47,696 --> 00:41:53,556
And that's where you start to see like corruption push through is when you have

702
00:41:53,556 --> 00:41:55,536
non-objective enforcement.

703
00:41:55,916 --> 00:41:58,156
And I don't know if you can really have objective enforcement

704
00:41:58,156 --> 00:41:59,696
in a lot of these situations.

705
00:42:00,216 --> 00:42:01,916
It is kind of subjective.

706
00:42:02,936 --> 00:42:03,056
Yeah.

707
00:42:04,176 --> 00:42:04,656
Agreed.

708
00:42:04,856 --> 00:42:07,256
And I wrote a newsletter about it last night.

709
00:42:07,356 --> 00:42:09,056
I think obviously last week when we recorded,

710
00:42:09,196 --> 00:42:11,436
it was very raw.

711
00:42:12,056 --> 00:42:15,516
And it was the immediate aftermath of what happened.

712
00:42:15,516 --> 00:42:18,536
And what we're talking about right now

713
00:42:18,536 --> 00:42:22,476
is highlighting the sort of disgusting reaction

714
00:42:22,476 --> 00:42:25,036
that many people have had.

715
00:42:25,316 --> 00:42:27,036
And I don't even want to make it a right versus left thing.

716
00:42:27,096 --> 00:42:28,476
I think it's just a moral thing.

717
00:42:28,616 --> 00:42:33,216
Are you good and virtuous or evil and nihilistic?

718
00:42:36,196 --> 00:42:38,876
And I think many people have been focused on that, rightly so,

719
00:42:38,956 --> 00:42:39,516
to a degree.

720
00:42:39,736 --> 00:42:40,976
But I think more importantly,

721
00:42:42,196 --> 00:42:46,796
one of the best ways to combat that culturally

722
00:42:46,796 --> 00:42:48,516
is to highlight the good that's come out of it.

723
00:42:48,516 --> 00:42:51,956
There's been a ton of people on the opposite end of the spectrum

724
00:42:51,956 --> 00:42:57,376
who were incredibly moved to action, whether that's going to church

725
00:42:57,376 --> 00:43:01,256
or saying that they're going to try and be a better person.

726
00:43:01,396 --> 00:43:03,116
There were many people who, for the first time,

727
00:43:03,996 --> 00:43:09,956
were exposed to Charlie Kirk videos and the way he engaged in dialogue

728
00:43:10,496 --> 00:43:14,496
and the messages that he was putting out there and really connected with them

729
00:43:14,496 --> 00:43:15,976
and said, oh my gosh, I can't believe this happened.

730
00:43:16,036 --> 00:43:19,116
This is terrible that this happened, and we need to do better.

731
00:43:19,116 --> 00:43:33,996
And I think in terms of focusing your energy, I think it's focusing on the silver lining good that has been coming out of this and leaning into that and sort of signaling publicly like this is what we should be focused on is doing more good like this.

732
00:43:35,076 --> 00:43:47,216
Because evil and darkness, it's an insatiable sort of energy that feeds off of people reacting to it and getting angry from it, getting angry by it.

733
00:43:47,216 --> 00:43:59,656
And that's not to say there shouldn't be accountability and we shouldn't try to figure out ways to make sure that people are legally reprimanded when it makes sense.

734
00:44:00,636 --> 00:44:09,296
But I think in terms of focus of energy, focusing on the good and sort of the hold the door mentality, like lean into that.

735
00:44:09,296 --> 00:44:19,416
yeah i mean i will just say that anyone who you know celebrates murder can go fuck themselves

736
00:44:19,416 --> 00:44:26,336
yeah but uh i don't know i i

737
00:44:26,336 --> 00:44:36,656
this our country is it feels like it's more split than it's ever been during our lifetime

738
00:44:36,656 --> 00:44:45,176
Um, and, uh, what like this, like, it's like meme of like a peaceful divorce, I think is

739
00:44:45,176 --> 00:44:47,036
like completely naive and bullshit.

740
00:44:47,316 --> 00:44:49,336
Don't know how that works out in practice.

741
00:44:49,456 --> 00:44:52,576
I haven't heard anyone actually explain what that looks like.

742
00:44:52,576 --> 00:44:53,716
That doesn't make any sense.

743
00:44:54,476 --> 00:44:59,496
And I think social media combined with like the algos and the engagement bait and everything

744
00:44:59,496 --> 00:45:01,936
is just making everything so much, so much worse.

745
00:45:01,936 --> 00:45:12,336
um like the incentives are just so fucking messed up and it's just like everyone's just eating each

746
00:45:12,336 --> 00:45:21,896
other yeah i mean there's some people there's some people on the left that are really really

747
00:45:21,896 --> 00:45:29,756
fucking evil and despicable uh that are like drumming up people and and and you know calling

748
00:45:29,756 --> 00:45:34,556
for assassinations and whatnot but there's also like a lot of people that are just fucking retarded

749
00:45:34,556 --> 00:45:40,216
and they just follow all the engagement traps right and they just get locked up in it

750
00:45:40,856 --> 00:45:47,276
yeah scott adams yeah like that to them to me with that some of them it's like almost a pity thing

751
00:45:47,876 --> 00:45:53,616
no it's certainly scott adams scott adams did a video on this yesterday i mean it's

752
00:45:53,616 --> 00:45:54,856
similar to

753
00:45:54,856 --> 00:45:57,696
something we talked a lot about during

754
00:45:57,696 --> 00:45:59,776
COVID, which was mass psychosis

755
00:45:59,776 --> 00:46:01,236
that took over the country.

756
00:46:01,636 --> 00:46:03,556
He said, what we're witnessing is

757
00:46:03,556 --> 00:46:05,616
that in another context

758
00:46:05,616 --> 00:46:07,536
with

759
00:46:07,536 --> 00:46:09,616
this reaction. It's a

760
00:46:09,616 --> 00:46:11,056
result of literally

761
00:46:11,056 --> 00:46:13,736
Scott Adams is a hypnotist by trade

762
00:46:13,736 --> 00:46:14,916
or one of his trades.

763
00:46:15,816 --> 00:46:17,736
He makes the point, the propaganda

764
00:46:17,736 --> 00:46:19,516
of Trump's Hitler, the writer

765
00:46:19,516 --> 00:46:21,596
fascist, they're trying

766
00:46:21,596 --> 00:46:22,976
to kill you has been literally

767
00:46:22,976 --> 00:46:28,476
the drum has been beating this propaganda beating since trump first ran for office in 2016 and you

768
00:46:28,476 --> 00:46:34,056
have a whole generation of young people specifically who've had this message beat into their heads

769
00:46:34,056 --> 00:46:41,996
multiple times a day for many years and they just have been programmed to be npcs who take the

770
00:46:41,996 --> 00:46:55,424
message and repeat it and to your point i pity those people i see marco zappos 21 000 sets Marco from Primal he said sup freaks Mark Zapp does 58 sets

771
00:46:56,024 --> 00:46:58,764
On air news, Maple AI releases secure voice chat.

772
00:46:58,864 --> 00:47:00,184
Talk to Maple, it talks back.

773
00:47:00,304 --> 00:47:01,784
Fight corrupt power with Freedom Tech.

774
00:47:01,924 --> 00:47:02,624
Oh, that's dope.

775
00:47:02,744 --> 00:47:03,624
That's a feature I wanted.

776
00:47:05,164 --> 00:47:06,144
Launch more features.

777
00:47:06,284 --> 00:47:07,144
Zapp us while you do.

778
00:47:07,704 --> 00:47:08,264
I like it.

779
00:47:08,264 --> 00:47:13,084
Mark, that's going to be a big feature for my family

780
00:47:13,084 --> 00:47:14,784
because that's one thing I've been doing in the car

781
00:47:14,784 --> 00:47:21,584
with the boys um and i've only been able to do it chat gbt um in very specific context but we'll

782
00:47:21,584 --> 00:47:26,684
do voice to voice and we'll just ask questions like my my oldest was like dad how long would

783
00:47:26,684 --> 00:47:31,344
it take to count to 100 trillion i was like chat gbt how long would it take to count to 100 trillion

784
00:47:31,344 --> 00:47:33,824
and how long do you think it would take

785
00:47:33,824 --> 00:47:41,264
i don't fucking know uh 60 years 30 million years

786
00:47:41,264 --> 00:47:51,004
you should have bet me 30 million years but now and it's like i've been and the point i'm trying

787
00:47:51,004 --> 00:47:56,544
to make is i've been very sort of that's crazy conscious about the questions that i'm asking

788
00:47:56,544 --> 00:48:01,264
chat gpt while in the car with the boys and letting them talk but so now this exists in

789
00:48:01,264 --> 00:48:09,104
maple like we can we can use maple voice instead not to worry about that oh wow yeah i see the

790
00:48:09,104 --> 00:48:16,644
microphone button that's dope yeah um well thank you marks um while we're on the top i know this

791
00:48:16,644 --> 00:48:21,124
is supposed to be a short rip and the list is actually kind of short we we'll get back to

792
00:48:21,124 --> 00:48:29,204
bitcoin in a second uh marty what's your opinion on uh like the conspiracy theories around uh who

793
00:48:29,204 --> 00:48:36,744
killed charlie fog of war too early to tell um don't want to go in any direction or another but

794
00:48:36,744 --> 00:48:40,824
I will say that the discord chats that were released by the FBI are very

795
00:48:40,824 --> 00:48:41,884
suspect.

796
00:48:43,404 --> 00:48:43,524
Yeah.

797
00:48:43,524 --> 00:48:43,864
Very suspect.

798
00:48:45,384 --> 00:48:45,844
Yeah.

799
00:48:45,864 --> 00:48:46,084
I mean,

800
00:48:46,124 --> 00:48:47,204
I think there's a decent,

801
00:48:47,584 --> 00:48:50,264
someone was making the case that.

802
00:48:52,044 --> 00:48:56,964
So there was a discord chat that was released between the alleged assassin

803
00:48:56,964 --> 00:48:59,204
and his trans boyfriend,

804
00:49:00,204 --> 00:49:00,964
or I guess,

805
00:49:01,044 --> 00:49:01,444
girlfriend,

806
00:49:02,444 --> 00:49:03,944
whichever gender you want to choose.

807
00:49:03,944 --> 00:49:10,824
male pretending to be a girl um and uh i mean there was an argument that it was uh

808
00:49:10,824 --> 00:49:18,184
a way to protect the trans pretend like yeah that he was part of it right which i think is like

809
00:49:18,184 --> 00:49:23,924
not the craziest argument but yeah it didn't read like actually people talking to each other

810
00:49:23,924 --> 00:49:30,984
um it seemed pretty suspicious um i mean this is also part of like the social media cycle right

811
00:49:30,984 --> 00:49:39,524
is that people are just rushing to make arguments on, you know,

812
00:49:39,564 --> 00:49:42,584
what the conspiracy is, who killed what, get engagement out of it.

813
00:49:42,664 --> 00:49:45,704
It's like a short, it's even shorter than the 24 hour news cycle.

814
00:49:45,844 --> 00:49:47,304
It has even lesser repercussions.

815
00:49:50,744 --> 00:49:54,544
And I don't know how you'd necessarily go back from that.

816
00:49:54,624 --> 00:49:55,964
I mean, I've seen like claims like,

817
00:49:57,104 --> 00:50:00,604
like why don't we see the footage from like the cameras that were like right

818
00:50:00,604 --> 00:50:04,464
next to Charlie. I've seen claims that like the security team was involved.

819
00:50:04,644 --> 00:50:05,644
It's like, well, first of all, like,

820
00:50:06,524 --> 00:50:10,184
since when in like an investigation to like people just released like the

821
00:50:10,184 --> 00:50:14,444
evidence to the public a day after, a day after an assassination,

822
00:50:15,024 --> 00:50:17,624
that's not, that's not how it's ever worked in the past.

823
00:50:17,624 --> 00:50:21,844
Like it's not like you just get leaked every piece of footage and every piece

824
00:50:21,844 --> 00:50:26,424
of evidence that people have. But yeah,

825
00:50:26,444 --> 00:50:30,384
I do agree that it is pretty early to make any kind of conclusions.

826
00:50:30,604 --> 00:50:36,544
I will say that hunch wise, like, I think this was trans violence.

827
00:50:36,944 --> 00:50:38,564
I think it was probably this kid.

828
00:50:39,784 --> 00:50:45,024
I mean, his dad has real proof of work in terms of being like a sheriff and turning in his own son.

829
00:50:46,244 --> 00:50:49,524
It lines up with the growing trend of trans violence we've seen.

830
00:50:49,704 --> 00:50:54,244
The whole radicalized on the Internet actually does line up, logically speaking.

831
00:50:54,244 --> 00:50:59,124
um now the question does if you if you do want to enter the conspiracy realm

832
00:50:59,124 --> 00:51:06,964
are there actors that are riling up trans violence in these rooms um and could that be

833
00:51:06,964 --> 00:51:15,104
the israelis could that be the deep state could that be fbi cia nsa uh russia china yes like that

834
00:51:15,104 --> 00:51:22,524
actually lines up to me as well um but i think that's different than necessarily like

835
00:51:22,524 --> 00:51:31,844
deep state being behind the rifle directly um yeah even though the result is the result is the

836
00:51:31,844 --> 00:51:36,444
same like i don't think the shot was like the most difficult shot uh especially for someone

837
00:51:36,444 --> 00:51:43,604
who's a hunter already um you know like i know people that are amateurs that can make that shot

838
00:51:43,604 --> 00:51:50,824
um but yeah we'll see we'll see how it plays and then i like i do agree with the sentiment

839
00:51:50,824 --> 00:51:56,104
that first of all that charlie was probably one of the most outspoken pro-israeli people

840
00:51:56,104 --> 00:52:04,584
um in american politics that was not jewish and he was he was turning

841
00:52:04,584 --> 00:52:11,844
and it lines up completely that he probably had a falling out with bb because netanyahu can go

842
00:52:11,844 --> 00:52:17,264
fuck himself and i feel like it's almost consensus opinion now that most people hate netanyahu and

843
00:52:17,264 --> 00:52:17,824
his government.

844
00:52:18,784 --> 00:52:20,764
Even in Israel,

845
00:52:21,764 --> 00:52:22,244
which is.

846
00:52:23,544 --> 00:52:23,844
Yeah.

847
00:52:24,004 --> 00:52:24,484
But like,

848
00:52:26,424 --> 00:52:26,764
I mean,

849
00:52:26,864 --> 00:52:27,684
but like,

850
00:52:27,764 --> 00:52:28,904
and so at the end of the day,

851
00:52:28,984 --> 00:52:29,764
for better or for worse,

852
00:52:29,804 --> 00:52:31,184
and definitely didn't deserve it.

853
00:52:31,224 --> 00:52:31,364
Like,

854
00:52:31,384 --> 00:52:33,224
I think Charlie had a lot of enemies.

855
00:52:34,004 --> 00:52:34,784
I think he had enemies

856
00:52:34,784 --> 00:52:35,904
on the pro-Israel side.

857
00:52:36,004 --> 00:52:38,124
He had enemies on the anti-Israel side.

858
00:52:38,464 --> 00:52:39,584
He had enemies on the left.

859
00:52:39,584 --> 00:52:40,704
He had enemies on the right.

860
00:52:42,764 --> 00:52:44,524
And there's a lot of people

861
00:52:44,524 --> 00:52:45,484
trying to take advantage

862
00:52:45,484 --> 00:52:46,244
of the crisis.

863
00:52:47,264 --> 00:52:56,804
Um, so there's like motives fucking everywhere. Um, but yeah, well, uh, this is, uh, I think

864
00:52:56,804 --> 00:53:02,324
the story is definitely far from over. Um, and it's still so, so recent.

865
00:53:03,724 --> 00:53:08,424
Yeah. Like I said, fog of war, I'm going to let more information come in. I think I completely

866
00:53:08,424 --> 00:53:12,764
agree with everything you just said. I will say like the conspiracy theories of the guy

867
00:53:12,764 --> 00:53:16,684
sitting behind him, like had like a very small gun, like Sean, I don't believe that at all.

868
00:53:16,684 --> 00:53:20,084
That his security guard

869
00:53:20,084 --> 00:53:21,904
Did like a sideways

870
00:53:21,904 --> 00:53:23,704
Shot through the arm or whatever

871
00:53:23,704 --> 00:53:24,744
No

872
00:53:24,744 --> 00:53:26,884
Actually there was a good

873
00:53:26,884 --> 00:53:29,224
100 people standing around him

874
00:53:29,224 --> 00:53:31,004
Yeah, no, makes no sense

875
00:53:31,004 --> 00:53:33,784
There was

876
00:53:33,784 --> 00:53:35,844
A good video analysis by

877
00:53:35,844 --> 00:53:37,384
I believe a military sniper

878
00:53:37,384 --> 00:53:40,144
His theory was that actually Charlie was wearing

879
00:53:40,144 --> 00:53:41,864
I saw that

880
00:53:41,864 --> 00:53:43,784
It hit the titanium vest

881
00:53:43,784 --> 00:53:44,524
Popped up

882
00:53:44,524 --> 00:53:47,064
I think that makes the most sense to me.

883
00:53:47,764 --> 00:53:50,024
Titanium plate, except the sheriff said that he wasn't.

884
00:53:50,024 --> 00:53:52,824
I think I saw something that the sheriff said he wasn't wearing a plate,

885
00:53:52,924 --> 00:53:54,264
but it looked like he was wearing a plate.

886
00:53:54,684 --> 00:53:57,484
I mean, in that video, it looks pretty clearly that it hit his shirt first

887
00:53:57,484 --> 00:53:58,244
and then it bounced.

888
00:53:58,424 --> 00:53:59,084
Yeah, I saw that.

889
00:53:59,984 --> 00:54:01,684
And they definitely have more.

890
00:54:01,964 --> 00:54:05,664
I mean, hopefully we see the –

891
00:54:05,664 --> 00:54:11,344
they should release eventually, like, the super HD professional video

892
00:54:11,344 --> 00:54:13,944
that they had, like, camera that they had right next to them.

893
00:54:13,944 --> 00:54:19,764
behind them yeah they had one behind and one in front um and once again i don't think it's

894
00:54:19,764 --> 00:54:23,464
surprising that they haven't yet but i think it's important for people to realize that if he was

895
00:54:23,464 --> 00:54:29,804
wearing one of those slim titanium vests um or something similar to that the guy that i think

896
00:54:29,804 --> 00:54:35,344
you're talking about it was a youtube video right it was like a specific he specifically speculated

897
00:54:35,344 --> 00:54:40,644
it was this thin titanium vest titanium plate um because he's wearing a t-shirt right it's like

898
00:54:40,644 --> 00:54:42,524
Otherwise, you start to see a lot of printing.

899
00:54:43,624 --> 00:54:45,124
That's for handgun calibers.

900
00:54:46,384 --> 00:54:50,104
So also the idea that if he wasn't wearing the plate, it wouldn't have deflected up to his neck.

901
00:54:50,144 --> 00:54:53,764
It's like, no, he would have had a kill shot on the chest instead is probably what would have happened.

902
00:54:54,524 --> 00:55:08,244
And I think the craziest thing for people to grapple with, particularly in our sheltered society, is even these people that have super expensive security details and whatnot are very exposed on a day-to-day basis.

903
00:55:08,244 --> 00:55:11,624
and it's something that we saw with COVID, right?

904
00:55:11,644 --> 00:55:16,164
I called it like the, it's like the bumper bowling dynamic.

905
00:55:16,164 --> 00:55:18,104
It's like people live in padded walls

906
00:55:18,104 --> 00:55:21,744
and they think they can get away from all sorts of risk.

907
00:55:21,744 --> 00:55:24,144
So when they get exposed to like a vulnerability

908
00:55:24,144 --> 00:55:26,544
to like a feeling of helplessness,

909
00:55:26,744 --> 00:55:30,224
they act in crazy ways.

910
00:55:32,844 --> 00:55:34,544
But like, yeah, I mean,

911
00:55:34,564 --> 00:55:36,584
you can pay $5 million a year for security

912
00:55:36,584 --> 00:55:42,344
and like that doesn't cover snipers on roofs and stuff that's you know four guys that are

913
00:55:42,344 --> 00:55:45,824
ex-military that's the other thing like they're like oh the security is involved because

914
00:55:45,824 --> 00:55:52,204
they're like ex-special forces ex-delta force you know like ex-missad and stuff it's like where

915
00:55:52,204 --> 00:55:58,124
do you think the private security guys come from they all come from those from that pedigree um

916
00:55:58,124 --> 00:55:59,544
I don't know. It's crazy.

917
00:56:00,244 --> 00:56:00,684
It is.

918
00:56:02,764 --> 00:56:03,204
Yeah.

919
00:56:03,524 --> 00:56:05,804
I'm going to wait for more time to pass,

920
00:56:05,884 --> 00:56:07,364
more information to come to market.

921
00:56:07,524 --> 00:56:08,084
I will say

922
00:56:08,084 --> 00:56:10,944
narrative does not

923
00:56:10,944 --> 00:56:13,064
really make sense to me right now,

924
00:56:13,104 --> 00:56:14,784
whether it's those Discord chats.

925
00:56:15,064 --> 00:56:17,024
I think it's plausible that it was an attempt

926
00:56:17,024 --> 00:56:19,424
to protect the boyfriend.

927
00:56:20,504 --> 00:56:21,584
But still weird.

928
00:56:21,744 --> 00:56:22,664
That has to be confirmed.

929
00:56:22,884 --> 00:56:24,004
And why did they release that?

930
00:56:24,004 --> 00:56:25,264
It's kind of weird, right?

931
00:56:26,044 --> 00:56:26,204
Yeah.

932
00:56:26,204 --> 00:56:27,684
And then even like just like the,

933
00:56:27,724 --> 00:56:28,744
the series of events,

934
00:56:28,744 --> 00:56:30,724
like the way he put the gun together,

935
00:56:30,844 --> 00:56:31,424
took it apart,

936
00:56:31,544 --> 00:56:32,244
hit it in the woods,

937
00:56:32,324 --> 00:56:35,204
like supposed to go back where it's all very odd.

938
00:56:35,944 --> 00:56:36,164
Yeah.

939
00:56:36,244 --> 00:56:37,264
I agree with that too.

940
00:56:40,984 --> 00:56:41,664
We'll see.

941
00:56:42,764 --> 00:56:44,544
But on the opposite side,

942
00:56:45,944 --> 00:56:50,044
like if he's,

943
00:56:50,304 --> 00:56:50,604
well,

944
00:56:50,664 --> 00:56:52,444
we'll see if maybe he dies in custody.

945
00:56:52,884 --> 00:56:54,684
I think if he dies in custody would be,

946
00:56:54,684 --> 00:56:56,804
smoking gun

947
00:56:56,804 --> 00:56:58,024
yeah

948
00:56:58,024 --> 00:57:01,484
but like the opposite is true too right

949
00:57:01,484 --> 00:57:03,804
like the fact that like he's alive

950
00:57:03,804 --> 00:57:05,804
you know who his father is

951
00:57:05,804 --> 00:57:07,684
like we already know way more about this guy

952
00:57:07,684 --> 00:57:08,464
than we have

953
00:57:08,464 --> 00:57:11,324
with the two Trump guys

954
00:57:11,324 --> 00:57:11,944
and

955
00:57:11,944 --> 00:57:17,104
what the hell was that

956
00:57:17,104 --> 00:57:19,884
not Dylan Roof, Dylan Roof is another one

957
00:57:19,884 --> 00:57:24,464
so like that

958
00:57:24,464 --> 00:57:26,244
the opposite is true on that front too.

959
00:57:28,204 --> 00:57:31,264
And then we see like all these people celebrating his fucking death.

960
00:57:31,544 --> 00:57:36,684
So I think a lot of them would have pulled the trigger if they could have.

961
00:57:39,404 --> 00:57:40,764
The hell was that kid's name?

962
00:57:45,564 --> 00:57:46,544
Thomas Crooks.

963
00:57:46,884 --> 00:57:47,684
That's what it was.

964
00:57:48,724 --> 00:57:49,324
Which one was that?

965
00:57:49,344 --> 00:57:50,424
Was that the first Trump shooter?

966
00:57:51,024 --> 00:57:51,244
Yeah,

967
00:57:51,264 --> 00:57:51,744
that was Butler.

968
00:57:51,744 --> 00:57:52,984
And that was like another weird one.

969
00:57:53,124 --> 00:57:54,304
Like it had no internet.

970
00:57:54,464 --> 00:58:04,304
presence um yeah i mean i agree like it but i i would also say that i think gen z is a little bit

971
00:58:04,304 --> 00:58:09,744
more uh like to boomers it's like crazy that they're not like first and last name on the

972
00:58:09,744 --> 00:58:17,444
internet uh i think gen z is like a little bit more like nymph pilt in a lot of ways particularly

973
00:58:17,444 --> 00:58:29,604
like the elements of them um but yeah that one i mean that one reeked and we never really heard

974
00:58:29,604 --> 00:58:35,024
they they blew off his fucking head or whatever and then they just we never talked about him again

975
00:58:35,024 --> 00:58:42,464
yeah and then there was the other guy at the golf course who was connected to ukraine like he was

976
00:58:42,464 --> 00:58:46,724
like connected to a bunch of shit never but we never heard about him again either right i don't

977
00:58:46,724 --> 00:58:52,124
know anything about him his name his name was ruth that's what it was i was getting them mixed up

978
00:58:52,124 --> 00:58:58,664
something ruth his last name was ruth um i think dylan roof was that disgusting kid in south

979
00:58:58,664 --> 00:59:09,884
carolina who shot up that church um okay well enough with the speculation um i would just say

980
00:59:09,884 --> 00:59:12,024
don't believe everything you read on the internet.

981
00:59:16,444 --> 00:59:17,864
There's no awards for

982
00:59:17,864 --> 00:59:19,904
figuring out what happened

983
00:59:19,904 --> 00:59:21,064
sooner rather than later.

984
00:59:23,484 --> 00:59:24,304
Fog of war.

985
00:59:24,804 --> 00:59:25,844
Charlie's fucking dead.

986
00:59:26,304 --> 00:59:27,724
I'm not going to bring him back to life.

987
00:59:31,724 --> 00:59:32,984
Alright, next topic.

988
00:59:33,864 --> 00:59:35,684
Blue Sky implementing age verification

989
00:59:35,684 --> 00:59:37,064
in South Dakota and Wyoming

990
00:59:37,064 --> 00:59:38,564
due to

991
00:59:38,564 --> 00:59:42,204
laws have been passed in both states.

992
00:59:42,764 --> 00:59:45,924
So Blue Sky has begun requiring users in South Dakota and Wyoming

993
00:59:45,924 --> 00:59:49,424
to verify their age in response to new state-level online safety laws.

994
00:59:49,544 --> 00:59:52,004
These rules are being sold as protection for kids,

995
00:59:52,124 --> 00:59:54,604
but the reality is they force everyone to hand over sensitive info

996
00:59:54,604 --> 00:59:55,564
just to stay online.

997
00:59:56,504 --> 00:59:59,004
Anonymous access is being quietly pushed out,

998
00:59:59,144 --> 01:00:01,304
replaced by systems that expect you to verify who you are

999
01:00:01,304 --> 01:00:02,944
before you can speak, share, or connect.

1000
01:00:02,944 --> 01:00:05,364
This is very interesting.

1001
01:00:05,664 --> 01:00:08,424
I mean, we mentioned it a couple weeks ago, like Texas.

1002
01:00:08,564 --> 01:00:10,644
in Florida with the porn

1003
01:00:10,644 --> 01:00:13,524
and now a blue sky in South Dakota, Wyoming.

1004
01:00:13,744 --> 01:00:17,084
You see these very historically conservative

1005
01:00:17,084 --> 01:00:20,064
say it's particularly from a civil liberties perspective

1006
01:00:20,064 --> 01:00:21,684
leading into this first.

1007
01:00:24,764 --> 01:00:25,244
Yeah.

1008
01:00:25,584 --> 01:00:25,944
And

1009
01:00:25,944 --> 01:00:31,744
no, I mean, Texas isn't liberal though.

1010
01:00:33,704 --> 01:00:35,124
I know. I said...

1011
01:00:35,124 --> 01:00:37,764
Oh, I see what you said. You said the opposite.

1012
01:00:37,764 --> 01:00:43,404
yeah um i mean look i think they're all gonna fucking do it and elon's supporting it

1013
01:00:43,404 --> 01:00:48,544
uh like i think this trend was already accelerating and now they have the charlie

1014
01:00:48,544 --> 01:00:57,604
excuse to who's radicalized on discord and reddit um and uh i think the powers that be

1015
01:00:57,604 --> 01:01:04,124
want it really badly like the palantir mafia really fucking want it um did you see that's

1016
01:01:04,124 --> 01:01:11,844
the other thing about the chart is like see altart comments with you all uh yeah i listened to the

1017
01:01:11,844 --> 01:01:16,704
i listened to the conversation what comments specifically i mean i find it extremely hard

1018
01:01:16,704 --> 01:01:21,944
to believe that they're nuts oh he's full of shit he's like oh we don't have a contract with

1019
01:01:21,944 --> 01:01:27,164
can't say because we refused on moral grounds to spy on americans yeah how are you doing

1020
01:01:27,164 --> 01:01:31,924
how are you doing any of this without spying even if it's just metadata like you

1021
01:01:31,924 --> 01:01:36,964
objectively are collecting this data and using it to identify and target people.

1022
01:01:38,844 --> 01:01:39,244
Yeah.

1023
01:01:41,764 --> 01:01:42,924
That's why like all these,

1024
01:01:43,004 --> 01:01:43,584
like you gotta just,

1025
01:01:43,684 --> 01:01:44,404
you follow the money,

1026
01:01:44,504 --> 01:01:45,184
you follow the incentives.

1027
01:01:45,184 --> 01:01:47,184
It gets pretty dark pretty quickly.

1028
01:01:47,624 --> 01:01:49,404
And I feel like this trend accelerates.

1029
01:01:49,564 --> 01:01:50,784
And what I was going to say is,

1030
01:01:51,604 --> 01:01:51,884
you know,

1031
01:01:51,884 --> 01:01:52,424
like if you,

1032
01:01:52,584 --> 01:01:54,944
if you do believe like the,

1033
01:01:55,004 --> 01:01:55,724
the,

1034
01:01:55,724 --> 01:01:58,084
the super dark theories about Kirk,

1035
01:01:58,084 --> 01:02:02,204
that it was like a straight-up Mossad hit job

1036
01:02:02,204 --> 01:02:04,544
with CIA involvement and stuff.

1037
01:02:04,824 --> 01:02:10,304
Trump, Patel, Trump Cash, Bondi, Vance,

1038
01:02:10,844 --> 01:02:12,684
all the Palantir guys, they're all in on it.

1039
01:02:14,024 --> 01:02:19,144
It's not just Israel in that situation.

1040
01:02:19,144 --> 01:02:20,004
Keep that in mind.

1041
01:02:22,084 --> 01:02:25,144
That all hand-in-the-beating thing is like...

1042
01:02:25,844 --> 01:02:27,204
Yeah, it's all...

1043
01:02:27,312 --> 01:02:28,492
It's all very creepy.

1044
01:02:29,432 --> 01:02:30,952
I think that's the best way to describe it.

1045
01:02:33,492 --> 01:02:34,152
It's funny.

1046
01:02:34,332 --> 01:02:37,932
There's no way Palette's not spying on Americans.

1047
01:02:38,632 --> 01:02:39,452
Such fucking bullshit.

1048
01:02:39,832 --> 01:02:40,432
No way.

1049
01:02:40,852 --> 01:02:41,772
There's literally no way.

1050
01:02:43,172 --> 01:02:44,592
And he said it so confidently.

1051
01:02:45,072 --> 01:02:47,512
And their stock rose as a result of those comments.

1052
01:02:47,512 --> 01:02:54,592
I find it hard

1053
01:02:54,592 --> 01:02:56,512
I guess the right way to

1054
01:02:56,512 --> 01:02:58,172
phrase this so we don't get hit

1055
01:02:58,172 --> 01:03:00,112
with a libel

1056
01:03:00,112 --> 01:03:02,672
or slander attack is I find it

1057
01:03:02,672 --> 01:03:04,392
hard to believe that they're not spying

1058
01:03:04,392 --> 01:03:06,092
on American

1059
01:03:06,092 --> 01:03:07,572
citizens

1060
01:03:07,572 --> 01:03:09,632
I find it extremely unlikely

1061
01:03:09,632 --> 01:03:10,572
yeah

1062
01:03:10,572 --> 01:03:12,952
we have no information

1063
01:03:12,952 --> 01:03:14,692
we're just speculating here

1064
01:03:14,692 --> 01:03:15,492
yeah

1065
01:03:15,492 --> 01:03:23,512
um i was gonna i listened to i got off the train at 12 30 last night and drove back home and

1066
01:03:23,512 --> 01:03:26,872
listened to tucker's comments on charlie the release yesterday and it was

1067
01:03:26,872 --> 01:03:34,212
bringing this back to bitcoin one way or another um at the end they were talking about bill

1068
01:03:34,212 --> 01:03:41,152
ackman and just like sort of how um if you're aggressive and connected you can make a lot of

1069
01:03:41,152 --> 01:03:47,072
money and then exert a lot of influence and him and charlie talked about that on tucker show in

1070
01:03:47,072 --> 01:03:52,392
the summer i was listening to that part of tucker's monologue last night and he's like we got to figure

1071
01:03:52,392 --> 01:03:57,552
out a way to fix this because particularly for the youth like if they don't have if they're not as

1072
01:03:57,552 --> 01:04:02,712
if they don't have the trait of being overly aggressive and a bully to an extent and they're

1073
01:04:02,712 --> 01:04:07,132
not well connected how are they ever going to accumulate wealth wealth should be accumulated

1074
01:04:07,132 --> 01:04:10,572
by people who are creative and have agency

1075
01:04:10,572 --> 01:04:14,532
and are out there building things that are good for the world

1076
01:04:14,532 --> 01:04:16,772
and bring productive value to the world.

1077
01:04:16,852 --> 01:04:19,392
And I couldn't stop, I think, but this is why we're in Bitcoin.

1078
01:04:19,692 --> 01:04:21,992
It's like you have to fix the money

1079
01:04:21,992 --> 01:04:27,132
and have better incentive systems around the way money works

1080
01:04:27,132 --> 01:04:32,652
to actually make that even possible in the first place.

1081
01:04:32,652 --> 01:04:35,012
Not to say that on a Bitcoin standard,

1082
01:04:35,012 --> 01:04:42,032
There won't be networks of people who are connected that favor their cronies over others.

1083
01:04:42,232 --> 01:04:52,092
But I think Bitcoin certainly reduces the chance for government and central bank money printing to give to people that are connected.

1084
01:04:52,092 --> 01:05:07,132
I mean, to bring it back to Bitcoin, we announced this week that all fees associated with direct deposits and auto conversions into Bitcoin on strike are now waived.

1085
01:05:07,432 --> 01:05:11,072
So you can use the Pay Me in Bitcoin feature with no fees.

1086
01:05:12,292 --> 01:05:21,932
That goes on top of being able to set up reoccurring buys, you know, automatic stacking with no fees and free withdrawals if you're willing to wait.

1087
01:05:22,092 --> 01:05:32,052
So you can, Strike is really set up in a way where you can use it with never paying fees.

1088
01:05:33,572 --> 01:05:43,432
And then I think it's pretty cool because instead of like Robinhood's no fee model where they monetize by selling all your trading data to Citadel so they can trade against you,

1089
01:05:44,092 --> 01:05:51,632
Strike does it in ethical and moral ways by charging fees on smash buys and smash sells and the loan product.

1090
01:05:52,092 --> 01:05:57,512
while offering a full suite of free products that make using bitcoin in your everyday life

1091
01:05:57,512 --> 01:06:01,872
much more useful it's a beautiful thing it's a beautiful thing

1092
01:06:01,872 --> 01:06:08,792
zoomer seth i don't know if you're in the chat and i don't know if i'm gonna get myself in trouble

1093
01:06:08,792 --> 01:06:14,312
but i think you guys will be comfortable with it but i think uh stoti paccioli they've uh they're

1094
01:06:14,312 --> 01:06:22,352
developing like a protocol and sort of like a protocol and how would i describe it a sort of

1095
01:06:22,352 --> 01:06:29,812
system and guidance for running a small to medium-sized business on a bitcoin standard and i

1096
01:06:29,812 --> 01:06:54,522
think um one of the things that they gonna sort of help people navigate is if you a business and you want to do this if you sending out fiat invoices getting paid in fiat but if you want to run on a Bitcoin standard using Strike to auto convert to Bitcoin I think they got protocols and sort of guidelines that they going to be sharing with business owners who are curious about how to do that

1097
01:06:55,642 --> 01:07:02,502
Love it. I see Bitcoin Ranger is asking what's a better way to share instead of a Google Doc.

1098
01:07:02,502 --> 01:07:04,722
I mean you can just

1099
01:07:04,722 --> 01:07:05,962
you can create a PDF

1100
01:07:05,962 --> 01:07:08,542
and put it on satellite.earth

1101
01:07:08,542 --> 01:07:11,582
and just link the PDF

1102
01:07:11,582 --> 01:07:14,882
I think that's strictly better

1103
01:07:14,882 --> 01:07:17,262
I

1104
01:07:17,262 --> 01:07:18,862
that's awesome

1105
01:07:18,862 --> 01:07:20,082
I love Satoshi Pachuli

1106
01:07:20,082 --> 01:07:21,222
they're fucking great

1107
01:07:21,222 --> 01:07:23,242
and I see someone joining late asking

1108
01:07:23,242 --> 01:07:24,922
what happened to my hair

1109
01:07:24,922 --> 01:07:25,502
don't worry guys

1110
01:07:25,502 --> 01:07:26,202
it'll grow back

1111
01:07:26,202 --> 01:07:28,182
it's time for a change

1112
01:07:28,182 --> 01:07:35,522
it always comes back

1113
01:07:35,522 --> 01:07:38,822
alright last

1114
01:07:38,822 --> 01:07:40,282
is it last on the list?

1115
01:07:40,382 --> 01:07:40,722
what do we got?

1116
01:07:41,862 --> 01:07:42,702
no two more on the list

1117
01:07:42,702 --> 01:07:43,642
you had a conversation

1118
01:07:43,642 --> 01:07:47,002
on Citadel Dispatch yesterday or Monday?

1119
01:07:48,842 --> 01:07:49,362
yesterday

1120
01:07:49,362 --> 01:07:51,822
I had two of

1121
01:07:51,822 --> 01:07:54,862
the Fediment open source project contributors

1122
01:07:54,862 --> 01:07:56,122
so you have Fedi

1123
01:07:56,122 --> 01:08:01,922
which is a business and then you have fediment which is the open source project

1124
01:08:01,922 --> 01:08:08,642
the protocol that fedi uses and they've made significant improvements to fediment

1125
01:08:08,642 --> 01:08:12,562
i know we haven't talked about it in a while it had a lot of it had some

1126
01:08:12,562 --> 01:08:18,802
shortcomings and some issues early on just because of the complexities of running federated

1127
01:08:18,802 --> 01:08:22,982
chami and e-cash right so you can think of it like almost like a multi-sig cashew there's some

1128
01:08:22,982 --> 01:08:27,842
more differences there and a little bit more nuances there but we dived deep on it on Cilo

1129
01:08:27,842 --> 01:08:34,682
Dispatch so consider giving that a listen it was a really fun conversation I really enjoyed it the

1130
01:08:34,682 --> 01:08:40,322
live chat was popping but on top of that they also announced a fully false

1131
01:08:40,322 --> 01:08:47,982
affedment wallet for Android called the eCash app very creative name

1132
01:08:47,982 --> 01:08:57,862
and it's it's full featured power user friendly and on top of that one of the things we talked

1133
01:08:57,862 --> 01:09:02,602
about a lot was they made it much easier to run the guardian servers so you can literally

1134
01:09:02,602 --> 01:09:13,402
more or less one two clicks set up a guardian a mint guardian on start nine from home

1135
01:09:13,402 --> 01:09:20,702
without relying on cloud servers or domains or anything like that.

1136
01:09:21,622 --> 01:09:24,282
And then if you're running it on Star9 specifically,

1137
01:09:24,282 --> 01:09:27,602
you also have one-click backup, so it's harder to fuck it up.

1138
01:09:28,282 --> 01:09:32,702
So they made it easier to run on the front-end side for the actual end user,

1139
01:09:32,802 --> 01:09:35,142
and they made it much easier to run on the back-end side

1140
01:09:35,142 --> 01:09:38,322
for the people running the actual multi-sig mints.

1141
01:09:39,882 --> 01:09:42,422
And yeah, it was just a great conversation with Justin and Brad.

1142
01:09:43,402 --> 01:09:47,922
So consider listening to it and consider subscribing to Seal Dispatch if you're not already.

1143
01:09:49,742 --> 01:09:50,642
Consider it for a X.

1144
01:09:50,782 --> 01:09:57,922
And word of advice, naming convention advice to the developers of the eCash app.

1145
01:09:58,002 --> 01:09:58,722
Just call it TECA.

1146
01:09:59,222 --> 01:10:00,242
T-E-C-A.

1147
01:10:00,422 --> 01:10:01,142
Just call it TECA.

1148
01:10:02,042 --> 01:10:02,322
Why?

1149
01:10:02,522 --> 01:10:03,242
I like the eCash app.

1150
01:10:04,542 --> 01:10:05,122
ECash app.

1151
01:10:05,422 --> 01:10:06,322
Say call it TECA.

1152
01:10:06,582 --> 01:10:08,162
It's an acronym for the eCash app.

1153
01:10:08,442 --> 01:10:10,462
It is still the eCash app, but you just call it TECA wall.

1154
01:10:10,462 --> 01:10:17,102
it well it's like a play on cash app right yeah i see then just call it e-cash app

1155
01:10:17,822 --> 01:10:21,682
drop the drop the it's cleaner

1156
01:10:21,682 --> 01:10:32,082
suppose it was suppose it was uh justin moon's idea nice justin i miss you where are you

1157
01:10:32,082 --> 01:10:34,162
where are you sir

1158
01:10:34,162 --> 01:10:39,542
go check it out if you're running android test it give some feedback

1159
01:10:39,542 --> 01:10:44,542
probably don't use a material amount of Bitcoin.

1160
01:10:45,362 --> 01:10:46,122
You shouldn't anyway.

1161
01:10:46,122 --> 01:10:49,522
No, no, it should be, we talked about that too.

1162
01:10:49,522 --> 01:11:02,112
Like you should treat it whether it Cashew or Fetiment you should treat it as like a spending wallet Once you hit a certain balance you should bring it into proper self on chain or Lightning

1163
01:11:04,232 --> 01:11:04,712
Yeah.

1164
01:11:05,812 --> 01:11:12,492
And what I'd really like to see, and Zeus is leading the way here, is actually automating that flow for users.

1165
01:11:12,832 --> 01:11:15,252
You've hit this amount, move to self-custody.

1166
01:11:15,732 --> 01:11:16,512
Have a pop-up.

1167
01:11:17,032 --> 01:11:18,672
Pick a button, move to self-custody.

1168
01:11:18,672 --> 01:11:29,712
and then last but not least uh cake wallet launched cupcake which is an offline signer for

1169
01:11:29,712 --> 01:11:39,412
uh an android phone or an ios device so phones tablets android or ios uh you can take an old one

1170
01:11:39,412 --> 01:11:45,112
you can buy a fresh one you can install graphene on it if you want keep it offline you run the

1171
01:11:45,112 --> 01:11:49,952
signer app on there then you run cake wallet on your online connected device and you have

1172
01:11:49,952 --> 01:11:59,792
you know uh hardware-esque uh security guarantees obviously not as strong as like a purpose-built

1173
01:11:59,792 --> 01:12:08,292
uh hardware wallet um with off the shelf parts it's super easy to set up i think it's pretty cool

1174
01:12:08,292 --> 01:12:09,512
So it's analogous.

1175
01:12:09,512 --> 01:12:09,872
It's a cool model.

1176
01:12:10,712 --> 01:12:17,772
Instead of getting a treasure in a ledger and connecting to a treasure suite or ledger live,

1177
01:12:18,212 --> 01:12:22,072
you'd just create a wallet or a signing device.

1178
01:12:22,212 --> 01:12:27,812
You'd turn your old phone into a signing device and use a wallet desktop app to interact.

1179
01:12:27,812 --> 01:12:33,232
You take your old phone, you install Cupcake on that, and you put it in airplane mode.

1180
01:12:34,732 --> 01:12:36,152
And their keys stay on that device.

1181
01:12:36,152 --> 01:12:41,832
and then you have cake wallet on your your current phone that's connected to the internet

1182
01:12:41,832 --> 01:12:47,512
that sets up the transaction and then you just do like the qr code shuffle to sign a transaction

1183
01:12:47,512 --> 01:12:54,692
i haven't actually tested it out myself yet it just launched this week um but in general i think

1184
01:12:54,692 --> 01:13:01,392
the concept is is clever could be a very useful tool for people yeah i like to say i'm like um

1185
01:13:01,392 --> 01:13:06,132
the lead at the marketing remember when getting serious about crypto meant waiting weeks for a

1186
01:13:06,132 --> 01:13:09,652
hardware wallet to ship handing over your personal information and dropping a hundred

1187
01:13:09,652 --> 01:13:14,132
dollars on a device yeah we remember too and honestly we got tired of it

1188
01:13:14,852 --> 01:13:24,512
classic i mean on the bitcoin side we have lots of options they do support monero as well and on

1189
01:13:24,512 --> 01:13:31,912
the monero side i don't know of any purpose-built hardware wallets for it so there's probably a

1190
01:13:31,912 --> 01:13:36,692
little bit more demand on that side but there's also way more bitcoin users than our users

1191
01:13:36,692 --> 01:13:43,892
yeah um before we wrap up it would be remiss of me

1192
01:13:43,892 --> 01:13:53,632
not to read uh the only 21 000 sat boost or boost at 21 000 sats are over from rabbit hole recap

1193
01:13:53,632 --> 01:14:01,292
374 live free orange horizon 21 000 sacks sats tick tock sunblock zapsnag

1194
01:14:01,292 --> 01:14:06,192
shout out to you

1195
01:14:06,192 --> 01:14:07,472
thank you sir

1196
01:14:07,472 --> 01:14:10,592
thank you for that

1197
01:14:10,592 --> 01:14:18,732
yeah

1198
01:14:18,732 --> 01:14:19,992
short

1199
01:14:19,992 --> 01:14:22,412
short week we got the FOMC meeting

1200
01:14:22,412 --> 01:14:23,112
we should get

1201
01:14:23,112 --> 01:14:26,332
probably should see some headlines

1202
01:14:26,332 --> 01:14:28,252
rolling in in seven minutes

1203
01:14:28,252 --> 01:14:29,892
about the decision so

1204
01:14:29,892 --> 01:14:31,812
I see

1205
01:14:31,812 --> 01:14:35,552
Bitcoin Rangers asking about my

1206
01:14:35,552 --> 01:14:37,512
satellite.earth recommendation

1207
01:14:37,512 --> 01:14:39,632
yeah it's a website

1208
01:14:39,632 --> 01:14:41,652
it's a Nostar enabled website where you sign

1209
01:14:41,652 --> 01:14:43,532
in with a Nostar extension and then you can upload

1210
01:14:43,532 --> 01:14:45,152
videos or files or

1211
01:14:45,152 --> 01:14:47,732
photos and then they just give you a link

1212
01:14:47,732 --> 01:14:49,732
and you pay with SAPS

1213
01:14:49,732 --> 01:14:50,112
wow

1214
01:14:50,112 --> 01:14:53,572
it's how I host RHR videos

1215
01:14:53,572 --> 01:14:55,532
it's how I host the dispatch videos

1216
01:14:55,532 --> 01:14:57,152
it's a great service

1217
01:14:57,152 --> 01:14:58,732
it's run by Hazard

1218
01:14:58,732 --> 01:15:01,132
149 I think is the numbers

1219
01:15:01,132 --> 01:15:01,912
after his nim

1220
01:15:01,912 --> 01:15:16,882
great dude I don know if this is confirmed yet but zero had just saying that uh or his quote tweeting somebody saying all discord was hacked all chat logs dumped

1221
01:15:16,882 --> 01:15:25,082
2.1 billion threads say his name then people are saying false so fake news there are people

1222
01:15:25,082 --> 01:15:32,522
maybe not fake news but unclear yeah i had to think of that um

1223
01:15:32,522 --> 01:15:40,502
i mean i think it's a safe time to remind people that uh if we do see dumps there's

1224
01:15:40,502 --> 01:15:46,842
no way for us to verify that the contents are legit which is why um

1225
01:15:46,842 --> 01:15:52,142
i think nostor has made a big step in the right direction of having signed

1226
01:15:52,142 --> 01:16:01,162
posts so that you can independently verify them after the fact um without trusted third parties

1227
01:16:01,162 --> 01:16:03,582
it's a beautiful thing

1228
01:16:03,582 --> 01:16:05,182
it's a beautiful thing

1229
01:16:05,182 --> 01:16:09,842
you think people in South Dakota and

1230
01:16:09,842 --> 01:16:11,342
Wyoming are going to turn to

1231
01:16:11,342 --> 01:16:12,102
Nostra

1232
01:16:12,102 --> 01:16:16,002
I think

1233
01:16:16,002 --> 01:16:17,702
I mean I think I said it last week

1234
01:16:17,702 --> 01:16:21,822
that it could get

1235
01:16:21,822 --> 01:16:22,422
very

1236
01:16:22,422 --> 01:16:28,662
it should be interesting

1237
01:16:28,662 --> 01:16:30,342
it should be interesting

1238
01:16:30,342 --> 01:16:32,782
in this current environment how things

1239
01:16:32,782 --> 01:16:33,782
with Nostra play out.

1240
01:16:35,222 --> 01:16:35,402
Yeah.

1241
01:16:36,282 --> 01:16:36,782
It can get

1242
01:16:36,782 --> 01:16:38,622
pretty...

1243
01:16:38,622 --> 01:16:42,922
It can get dicey pretty quickly.

1244
01:16:44,762 --> 01:16:46,662
We've got 64 people

1245
01:16:46,662 --> 01:16:49,402
on Zap, or excuse me,

1246
01:16:49,462 --> 01:16:50,582
on Primal livestream.

1247
01:16:50,782 --> 01:16:52,022
We've got 3.2

1248
01:16:52,022 --> 01:16:54,642
thousand on X, I believe

1249
01:16:54,642 --> 01:16:55,202
150

1250
01:16:55,202 --> 01:16:58,022
on YouTube.

1251
01:16:58,022 --> 01:17:05,802
let me pump the uh the nostril live stream stats 64 come on all right we need it to surpass the

1252
01:17:05,802 --> 01:17:13,982
youtube chat i don't know how i can be honest um it we wanted to get those live streaming out

1253
01:17:13,982 --> 01:17:22,222
asap um and i don't think that was necessarily a priority was the actual live viewer count i don't

1254
01:17:22,222 --> 01:17:27,562
know if it it's probably not counting everywhere like if you're watching on zap stream or whatnot

1255
01:17:27,562 --> 01:17:34,122
And then also, I think it's important to realize that a lot of these viewer accounts on the centralized platforms are just kind of complete bullshit.

1256
01:17:36,362 --> 01:17:42,942
So maybe the play is to just make every Nostra stream look like it has like 20,000 people in it.

1257
01:17:45,322 --> 01:17:46,362
That would be sweet.

1258
01:17:47,822 --> 01:17:49,162
Just fake the viewer number.

1259
01:17:49,162 --> 01:17:58,222
i joked around once that uh on primal it should just be like your follower count just increases

1260
01:17:58,222 --> 01:18:03,722
by two percent hard-coded every day i think people would love that oh look at this

1261
01:18:03,722 --> 01:18:09,202
look at this you've seen this queen jumped over from the youtube chat let's go girl

1262
01:18:09,202 --> 01:18:13,542
i have to see a ride or die usually in the youtube chat

1263
01:18:13,542 --> 01:18:17,582
welcome to the nostril

1264
01:18:17,582 --> 01:18:23,522
jeffy says x live viewer count for video stream primarily tracks the number of video plays where

1265
01:18:23,522 --> 01:18:28,962
the video is viewed for at least two seconds including autoplay so it's a super inflated

1266
01:18:28,962 --> 01:18:35,322
number there's 3200 people on x watching live right now we appreciate you we appreciate you

1267
01:18:35,322 --> 01:18:40,882
Marco is confirming the number is definitely not accurate,

1268
01:18:41,002 --> 01:18:42,342
but we're working on it.

1269
01:18:42,782 --> 01:18:44,142
X is undercounting.

1270
01:18:44,282 --> 01:18:45,822
We probably have 30,000 people there.

1271
01:18:45,842 --> 01:18:47,102
They're just trying to stop the signal.

1272
01:18:50,562 --> 01:18:51,002
Okay,

1273
01:18:51,062 --> 01:18:51,382
Marnie,

1274
01:18:51,582 --> 01:18:52,562
I got to get out of here,

1275
01:18:52,942 --> 01:18:54,702
but great rip.

1276
01:18:55,742 --> 01:18:56,282
Great rip.

1277
01:18:56,502 --> 01:18:56,702
Stay,

1278
01:18:57,702 --> 01:18:58,742
lean into the good out there,

1279
01:18:58,822 --> 01:18:59,082
freaks.

1280
01:18:59,182 --> 01:19:01,262
Obviously hold the evil accountable,

1281
01:19:01,262 --> 01:19:02,982
but focus on doing good.

1282
01:19:03,582 --> 01:19:05,262
Focus on making your life better.

1283
01:19:05,322 --> 01:19:07,302
the best that it can be, your family's life.

1284
01:19:08,102 --> 01:19:09,542
Build good things.

1285
01:19:10,442 --> 01:19:11,062
Focus on the good.

1286
01:19:13,222 --> 01:19:14,102
Love your freaks.

1287
01:19:14,182 --> 01:19:16,202
Peace and love.