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You've had a dynamic where money has become freer than free.

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When you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.

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So it's all acting like safe haven.

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I believe that in a world where central bankers are tripping over themselves to devalue their currency, Bitcoin wins.

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In the world of fiat currencies, Bitcoin is the victor.

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I mean, that's part of the bull case for Bitcoin.

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If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.

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Welcome back to another edition of Rabbit Hole Recap.

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Rabbit Hole Recap 398, Matt.

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Get close to 400.

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How's it feel?

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Number go up.

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400 is wild

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next week will be 399

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and then

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this is actually poetic

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and next week 399

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we have daylight savings

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a new dawn

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400

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my wife and I were just

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time is about to change again

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March 8th my wife and I were in the car

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this afternoon driving home from lunch

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we're like when do we get more sun

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when are we saving the sun this year

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March 8th.

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Pleasant surprise.

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We've got to get rid of that shit.

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When are we going to get rid of that shit?

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Hopefully this year.

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I think this year is the last year we have to move the clocks.

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I mean, the headline, I assume you didn't watch the State of the Union, right?

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No, I was busy.

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I mean, I had it in and out.

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I've seen the clips.

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I watched one reaction video.

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Do you watch that Warren Smith guy?

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He's like the professor who quit.

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Do you know if the doctor's working?

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we're live. There was a delay last time. So let's give it a little bit.

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I mean, the reason I didn't watch it,

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Trump didn't mention Epstein at all. I guess it was the longest.

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And he didn't mention Epstein once, which is troubling.

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but he also didn't mention daylight savings which is also incredibly troubling we got to

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get rid of daylight savings i'm pretty sure it was a campaign promise he made we're gonna fix

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daylight savings we're gonna save the sun we're up on nostril all is well i don't really care

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one way or another about like where we lock in the time just don't change it twice a year

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no no no i care i want more sun all year like i want more sun in the winter it's the same amount

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of sun no matter what you're aware of.

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Seasonal depression is real.

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Speaking of which, we've got to

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It's way off.

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the spring solstice.

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There should be, what, 10 months

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Logan, I have a feeling you would know this.

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It'd be like 10, 30, 4-day

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months or something like that. You could do all

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what's your what's your what's your recommendation

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i i didn't i didn't make the rotation of the earth not perfectly line up with the orbit so i

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don't know anyway we got to get rid of it it's it's retarded weak answer weak answer

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um all right let's just jump into it we're starting a little late today that is due to me

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Thank you for your patience. Thank you for your flexibility, Matt and Logan.

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We're jumping to Clark's dashboard.

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With the current price of Bitcoin, the $67,680.

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We've had a bit of a pump this week.

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We're down off the highs of the last seven days.

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One cuck buck is going to get you $1,478.

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Sats were at a $1.35 trillion market cap.

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We are at block height, $938,472.

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So we are currently 984 blocks away from the next difficulty adjustment, estimated to be on March 4th, so that would be next Thursday.

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Maybe we'll have a difficulty adjustment during next week's rip.

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Looking like a 1.5% upwards adjustment.

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Hash rate's still coming back on the network after the large 14.7% upwards adjustment a couple weeks ago, or last week, excuse me.

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Blocks have been coming in 9 minutes 51 seconds on average since that retarget.

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We have 4,447 transactions in Clark's teeny weeny mempool.

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Mempool, not space, is showing 25,380 transactions in their mempool.

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Three sats per byte.

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High priority transactions.

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attach a three sat per vbyte fee to your transaction.

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Willing to wait 30 minutes.

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One sat per vbyte is fine.

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And willing to wait more than an hour.

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0.7 sats per rebine mempools still rather paltry empty as hell very empty very

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traveling visiting families uh apologies for poor mic quality we'll be back on a good mic

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next week mike's good dude i think the mic is good i think the mic's good

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you have one thing on the list that we talked about this week but

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Since you mentioned the State of the Union, it was brought up during it from a clip I saw.

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IDs to shovel snow in New York during the blizzard.

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Momdani for ID shovelers.

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No, two IDs and Social Security number for emergency snow shoveling, but not to vote.

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The irony is palpable.

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I will say, though, from our New York friends, the program supposedly worked pretty well, and they got that snow off the ground.

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It's melting away here in the Northeast right now.

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48 degrees today.

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I hope this is the last of the snow we see this year.

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I'm ready for it.

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I'm ready for spring.

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Ready for spring.

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You don't have it on the list either.

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What?

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Price is pumping.

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We mentioned it.

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I don't think you have it on the list.

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I mean, I sent you the list three hours ahead of time this time.

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So you're welcome to add things.

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You know I've been on the go all morning.

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I've been on the go all morning and early afternoon.

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Yeah, you don't have it.

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Jane Street, are they manipulating the price?

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We've paused.

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Oh.

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I mean, I didn't know what to link to for that.

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I mean, it does seem to be all the rage to be blaming Jane Street

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for the entire bear market.

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I mean, Zero Act has been calling it 10 a.m. Slam.

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They've been calling it for years, observing it.

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10 a.m. Slam here.

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I mean, no, no, no.

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The 10 a.m. Slam has been like a year long phenomenon, right?

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It's only been since we've had ETFs and stuff.

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Well, do you remember this?

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It definitely – what?

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The 3 p.m. ramp was a thing in equities, ramp capital.

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That's how he made his satirical X account, Twitter account back in the day.

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I mean, it's definitely wild that Jane Street gets sued over the Terra Luna collapse, which seems like they 100%, well, allegedly, seems very obvious.

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It seems like they killed Terra Luna using insider trading.

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And so they got hit by that.

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And then immediately after that, we don't see Bitcoin get dumped at 10 a.m. like clockwork.

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I mean, to me, that lines up.

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I don't think it's the cause of the entire bear market.

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I think a lot of OGs, long-term holders or whatever, sold a lot of Bitcoin as happens every cycle.

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I do think there's nuance to it.

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Yeah, of course. I agree.

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like with Terra Luna

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like synthetic stable coin

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and whatever they were

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I think they had a DAO as well

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like completely retarded design

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but it could be tipped over the edge

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and I think it certainly was

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if the allegations that Terraform Labs

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proved to be true

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it could have been pushed over the edge

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by Jane Street would not surprise me

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when it comes to like the 10 a.m. slams

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I've seen many people

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going back and forth

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like blaming Jane Street's Cope

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like James Sheck

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good friend of the show

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saying, hey guys. It's probably somewhere in the middle.

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Yeah, both are selling, but

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they can stop hunt, right?

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You can't manipulate the price

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in the long term, but in the short term

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I think, I don't want to say suppress,

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but you can hold it

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in a certain level, particularly if you're

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stop hunting at a particular time

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when liquidity

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and volume is low.

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I mean, the crazy thing is

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there's definitely a shit ton of shenanigans that have been happening in Bitcoin since the dawn of

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Bitcoin. But recently, as we've quote unquote institutionalized and ETFs and all this shit and

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like the micro strategy and everything, there's definitely been like a new breed of shenanigans

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and like craziness. Now I go back and forth on like the concept of, you know, if there is,

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if you have a 24-7, 365 truly free market,

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is all fair in those games.

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And I think probably as long as no fraud is being committed.

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The crazy thing about Jane Street is

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they're one of the most profitable firms in the world.

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It's only about 40 people.

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Have you looked into it?

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It's wild.

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There was four co-founders originally, and only one of the co-founders still works at the firm.

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And they're private, but it seems like only one of them still has equity.

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But they run like a flat structure where supposedly there's no CEO, and they all share in profits, and they all share in capital provided.

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It's a pretty crazy operation that is incredibly secretive.

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And the main – the one co-founder who still works there and still involved, there's only one picture of him in the last 25 years, which is an insane thing to accomplish.

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It's a really bad photo.

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I mean just saying, hey, there's been no trial.

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There's been no discovery.

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There's been no evidence brought forth yet, allegations at this point.

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But I saw this over the last couple of days.

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India caught Jane Street manipulating its markets and kicked them out.

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China caught accounts abusing its paper silver markets and immediately closed the accounts.

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Congratulations, America.

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That's not the crazy one.

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What's the crazy one?

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We covered it on RHR.

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The crazy one was the co-founder got caught, what was it, like $7 million worth of arms to overthrow the South Sudanese government.

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That was Jane Street.

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And then he threw his hand, it was a guy that took the picture and he threw his hands up.

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He was like, oh, it was an accident.

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I thought I was donating to some nonprofit.

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It's like, I didn't realize they were buying missiles.

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You're literally overthrowing an African regime.

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Yeah.

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And then I'm presumably trading on it too.

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Well, in the aftermath of the SPF blowup, because for those who are unaware, Sam Magnificat

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Fried, he was

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birthed at Jane Street.

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I was on top of it with FTX and

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SBF. He was a big part of the effective

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altruism movement.

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there's ties to that within Jane Street

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too, which is...

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I'm going to say, if you have not done your research on the effective

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altruism movement, I would do it because

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they are pretty psychotic

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people. I mean, that's what scares

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me about Anthropic.

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Yep, they've got it.

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Because Anthropic is heavy in the EA shit.

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Yeah.

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I don't know.

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No matter how you cut it, it's sketchy as hell.

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And they're a super secretive organization.

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So it'd be, I think it'd be helpful to a lot of people if some of that veil got lifted.

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I do not think that we are going to immediately recover to all-time highs now that they're being sued.

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No.

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But we'll see.

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I mean, that would be awesome.

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would be sweet would be well well received would be sweet i'm not holding my breath for it

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uh you don't have that i mean well we're talking about anthropic are you just gonna keep

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bringing up things that aren't on the list what do we got next we do have anthropic on the list

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but there should be a second story about anthropic um and we will segue actually no this story ties

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into the one you have on the list so we'll start with the one on the list then we'll we can talk

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about whatever you want to talk about marty well thank you thank you okay i'm running right now i'm

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running uh but before before your mind runs further let's just there needs to be a psa

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the scam has been running for a while now it usually targets people that are more public

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but also lower level people as well anyone who's involved in any kind of bitcoin or cryptocurrency

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and it's this Zoom scam.

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We had a freak reach out that said

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multiple friends had gotten hit by it recently,

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like in the last week.

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And it involves them sending you a Calendly invite first

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or they set up a meeting with you, right?

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They set up a meeting with you

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and when they join the Zoom call,

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the audio isn't working.

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And while the audio is not working,

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they're playing a video of who you think you're talking to,

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but you're not actually talking to them.

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And they tell you to troubleshoot, do these things.

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And when you do those things, you're actually installing,

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you're installing a virus onto your computer

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and then they're hijacking your computer

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and trying to steal all your money.

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So first off, just be aware of that.

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If you, you know, if you, if,

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do not be rushed into doing anything on your computer, period.

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and specifically if there's like some kind of audio issue

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in a video call that you think you're taking.

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A ton of alarm bells should ring.

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And then I think second of all,

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this is why cold storage is really important, right?

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Because if your keys aren't on your computer to begin with,

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yes, it will suck if they get all your files

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and they compromise your email accounts

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and can do a bunch of damage through those methods.

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But if your keys are on something like a cold card

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and it's completely offline,

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then they can't compromise your actual savings.

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Yeah, and these attacks can be rather sophisticated.

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I mean, I had one, I mean, it didn't make it past DMs,

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but the official New York Post account DMed me

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asking for an interview about Bitcoin.

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I was like, wow.

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I was like, this is weird.

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Went to the page, had like 10 million followers,

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whatever New York Post has, had the yellow check mark.

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I was like, oh, this seems legit.

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and then I was like okay like I'm happy to like you can email me here and they're like oh I don't

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need to email you like here's a calendar link I was like no I'd really like you to email me from

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uh an official New York Post uh email address and they never did but yeah the first batch were almost

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all like fake journalists or hack journalist accounts it was like Bloomberg and once they

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get one once they get one person then they use their credentials to try and get other people

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yeah so be aware it's a wild time out there i mean i think this was at least one of like the

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multiple times that uh larry lepard got his twitter account attacked was through this method too

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yeah hey you shouldn't be talking journos anyway i had a weak moment where i was responding to

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the new york post luckily i caught myself in the act and stopped yeah that's just a good piece of

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Good advice.

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Yeah.

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Speaking of attacks, jumping, we were talking about effective altruism,

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anthropic, and I think we've got the setup for like a Hegelian dialectic

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problem reaction solution playing out in the intersection of AI

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in the federal government here in the United States.

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And I do think the story that you have on the list plays into it.

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It's a big setup for it.

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So if you weren't aware, I believe earlier this week or late last week,

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Anthropic wrote a blog post, quote unquote, exposing industrial scale distillation attacks on Claude by DeepSeek, Moonshot AI, and Minimax.

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So essentially what they're saying is, hey, the team's building these open source Chinese models in DeepSeek, Moonshot, and Minimax are basically setting up Claude accounts and pinging our models to try to reverse engineer how we're doing things so that they can build their open source models.

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So they wrote a blog post and I think they flagged it to the government And it was funny that this happened the same week that you have Pete Hegseth and the Department of War saber rattling at Anthropic specifically because Anthropic does not want to give the Department of War full access to its models and let it run loose with them

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They want to make like kill bots with them.

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Yeah.

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And so I think that may be, what's the word for it?

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Like a charade, a projection.

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a false sort of narrative,

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like a public spat that is intentional.

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Cause like the way I could see this.

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It's like when Apple says like when Apple fights with the FBI over hacking

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iPhones or whatever like that.

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Yes.

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Yeah.

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So I think we're getting set up for all right.

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Department of war.

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We'll give it to you,

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but we need to make sure that we do this the right way.

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And there needs to be a licensed regime that,

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that only enables the,

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the sophisticated responsible large language model teams to.

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And more significant KYC across the entire stack.

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This is where open source and self-hosting become even more important.

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I mean, as it is, Claude requires a non-burner phone number to register.

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And then obviously you are paying with a credit card.

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So then trying to get an anonymous credit card is most,

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most people will not go through that process of trying to get an anonymous

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credit card. But then the other piece there, by the way,

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which I thought was interesting from that breakdown.

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And by the way, freaks, if you're like,

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oh, this is a Bitcoin show,

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like why aren't they talking about Bitcoin?

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It's because Marty went out of order

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and I led with the Bitcoin stories

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and then we're supposed to talk about this towards the end.

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But they also had that piece that they buried,

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that they said specifically,

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they identified multiple Chinese researchers by name

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who were doing it through their search history, right?

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So they said the quiet part out loud,

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which is you could use all this stuff and on, you know,

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you can try and not link it to your ID,

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but just through the prompts and the files and the stuff and the activity of

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how you are hitting the models themselves,

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they can de-anonymize you and identify who it is,

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which I think is particularly scary, right?

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Because one of the, and not, it shouldn't be surprising,

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but just to hear it out loud is a, is a scary confirmation.

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And that when you're like trying to use these things privately,

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a lot of times what people will do is you'll use like an open router or a PPQ or something

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to pay per token and you're hitting it through a proxy, right? But even if you're hitting it

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through a proxy, your prompts itself and the files that you're putting to it and how you

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phrase your questions and everything can then de-anonymize you.

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Yes. Before we go into another AI tangent, not on Bitcoin, we will

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So, buy in a little Bitcoin advice here.

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Use a model, or not a model, use a service like Maple that has models and trusted execution environments

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and then encrypted from your device to the secure enclave in the cloud, and you can pay with Bitcoin privately.

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Yeah, Maple fixes this, and self-hosting fixes this.

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Self-hosting is a lot less convenient and more expensive than Maple, which is why it's great that Maple exists,

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and you can use code RHR for a discount when you use Maple.

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Yeah.

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And I mean, not only like, I think Anthropic,

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the way they worded it in their blog posts,

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it's like, hey, they were sort of leaking

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personal identifying information via their prompts.

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But funnily enough, this week, there was a research paper

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that was released called Large-Scale Online Deanonymization

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with LLMs at the same time.

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And basically what this paper explains is that you can be de-anonymized via AI tools pretty trivially just by the way you write on the internet.

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And so if you've been posting on...

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It's not just how you write.

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Yeah.

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It's also like timing analysis and stuff like that too.

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But yeah.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, we show that large language models can be used to perform at-scale de-anonymization with full internet access.

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our agent re-identify hacker news users and anthropic interviewer participants at high

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precision given synonymous online profiles and conversations alone matching what would take hours

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for a dedicated human investigator and i think like the the bitcoin connection here which isn't

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actually in this research but i'm sure we'll start to see this come out is all the different

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chain surveillance and chain analysis that happens on chain becomes so much easier and so much more

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effective with LLMs. So I mean, there are definitely teams out there already working to

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dox people using Bitcoin chain data and transaction history. And the really scary part about that

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is if we're right about Bitcoin, this chain is going to last longer than our lives. It's going

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to last forever. So a mistake you make today or a mistake you made five years ago or a mistake you

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make in five years can screw you over way into the future.

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Yeah.

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And something that is perceived as sort of top-notch, incredible,

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obsec usage of the chain today in five years may not be sufficient.

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So you can think you're like transacting perfectly privately today.

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And then five years from now, the AI is like, well, actually.

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It's scary as fuck.

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This is why this shit is so important.

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And by the way, I see someone in the primal live chat,

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Stonehands, right-of-die-freak.

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I mean, I think we've covered this in RHR in the past,

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but it's been making recent rounds,

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using the background of a picture plus LLMs

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to pinpoint your exact location.

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Just be careful out there with what you share, freaks.

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Everything can be used against you.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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it's not good like that tech is wild like you can even i mean he mentioned a street view example

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specifically which i've seen those examples of uh which are scary in their own right right you

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know you take a picture of a friend or a bird or something on a street and they can figure out your

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exact street location based on the surroundings using an llm um but then they also have the one

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that's inside using Zillow and shit

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and Airbnb listings

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where you post a picture

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in front of a fireplace or something

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and it just immediately picks up

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the exact house you're in.

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Yeah, it's fucking wild.

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Be aware.

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Be aware.

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And on the topic of using Bitcoin privately,

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one thing we've talked about in recent years

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is the emergence of eCash on top of Bitcoin

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and we had some developments there this week

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with the launch of Numopay,

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which is a Bitcoin tap-to-pay point-of-sale app for Android,

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which is both Lightning and eCash compatible with zero fees.

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So our good friend Callie and many other developers

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working on the CashU protocol launched this today.

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I actually had Callie on the show yesterday.

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It will be released on Saturday.

481
00:28:08,898 --> 00:28:09,858
We talked a bit about this,

482
00:28:09,858 --> 00:28:14,658
and it seems like a really sweet project.

483
00:28:15,898 --> 00:28:16,818
This is awesome.

484
00:28:17,178 --> 00:28:17,818
I really need it.

485
00:28:19,578 --> 00:28:22,738
It just makes it way more convenient

486
00:28:22,738 --> 00:28:26,238
to accept Bitcoin payments as your brick-and-mortar store.

487
00:28:27,058 --> 00:28:29,018
I like that it doesn't try and do everything.

488
00:28:29,218 --> 00:28:30,998
It's just very simple and straight to the point.

489
00:28:31,458 --> 00:28:33,058
I like that it uses Tap2Pay.

490
00:28:33,198 --> 00:28:35,898
Anyone who's used Tap2Pay, the UX is impeccable.

491
00:28:36,178 --> 00:28:37,338
It's fantastic UX.

492
00:28:38,258 --> 00:28:39,558
QR codes are fine.

493
00:28:39,858 --> 00:28:41,498
I use QR codes all the time.

494
00:28:41,878 --> 00:28:43,018
Tap to pay is so much better.

495
00:28:44,718 --> 00:28:47,478
And this works offline.

496
00:28:47,678 --> 00:28:49,598
It works with a stock Android device.

497
00:28:50,398 --> 00:28:52,178
If you want to be a little bit more sophisticated,

498
00:28:52,178 --> 00:28:55,018
you can get one of those Android devices that also has a receipt printer

499
00:28:55,018 --> 00:28:57,138
that can print receipts on demand, but you don't need to.

500
00:28:57,198 --> 00:28:59,958
It can just be an old Android phone, and it works.

501
00:29:01,838 --> 00:29:07,058
And I've seen some complaints that it's custodial because it's Cashew,

502
00:29:07,058 --> 00:29:14,218
but it's designed in a way so that you can automatically just forward it to a lightning

503
00:29:14,218 --> 00:29:18,958
address. And let's be honest, in practice, what that probably looks like is a merchant,

504
00:29:19,238 --> 00:29:24,078
you know, having a KYC account with Strike or something like it and just putting in their Strike

505
00:29:24,078 --> 00:29:30,398
lightning address and then immediately being able to then use those Sats to pay for business

506
00:29:30,398 --> 00:29:36,558
expenses or anything else they might need. And I think there's also a key point here, which is

507
00:29:37,058 --> 00:29:45,238
Pretty much every other digital payments that a merchant is using are incredibly custodial and have even worse trust tradeoffs than Cashew.

508
00:29:45,958 --> 00:29:47,978
So I don't think it's a real deal breaker.

509
00:29:48,418 --> 00:29:55,018
I think if you just have auto-withdraw to a different Lightning wallet, it's a fantastic tradeoff balance.

510
00:29:55,558 --> 00:29:55,998
Yeah.

511
00:29:56,358 --> 00:30:06,498
And to be clear here, the point-of-sale software is Android only, but if you have an iPhone and you want to pay at one of these point-of-sales, you just can't download it.

512
00:30:06,498 --> 00:30:07,578
And that's, yeah.

513
00:30:08,358 --> 00:30:10,098
Well, that's an iOS limitation.

514
00:30:10,858 --> 00:30:14,998
Like the iOS has tap locked down, so you can't receive via tap.

515
00:30:15,958 --> 00:30:18,618
But yeah, anyone can pay regardless of their device.

516
00:30:19,358 --> 00:30:23,918
Also, this is a fully open source, non-monetized project by the Cashew team.

517
00:30:24,598 --> 00:30:31,818
So this is more similar to something like BTC Pay than something like ZapRite, right?

518
00:30:31,818 --> 00:30:35,558
This is an open source stack that people can modify.

519
00:30:35,558 --> 00:30:41,558
people can use it as they want to and there's no company behind it yeah and since you mentioned it

520
00:30:41,558 --> 00:30:47,718
they are working on a direct integration between btc pay server and numo um so be on the lookout

521
00:30:47,718 --> 00:30:54,198
for that and another thing to mention i mean i think if bitcoin is going to succeed particularly

522
00:30:54,198 --> 00:31:00,118
as the medium of exchange in the physical world tap to pay is a non-starter you need to have feature

523
00:31:00,118 --> 00:31:07,358
parity with the ux of being able to tap to pay with your credit card or debit card whatever it

524
00:31:07,358 --> 00:31:15,458
may be and the merchant needs to it's i think it's just cool that it works offline yeah that

525
00:31:15,458 --> 00:31:20,698
the payee doesn't have to be online to make the payment the merchant doesn't the merchant needs

526
00:31:20,698 --> 00:31:25,958
to be online but yeah because the way the um the transfer vcash work is basically like a file

527
00:31:25,958 --> 00:31:31,158
transfer over nfc and so i guess the risk there is if the person is paying you goes home and

528
00:31:31,158 --> 00:31:36,658
rugs that well that's right if the merchant's online it doesn't stop that it you don't have

529
00:31:36,658 --> 00:31:41,478
that risk yeah but if you're offline is they have like a trust like okay hopefully this guy doesn't

530
00:31:41,478 --> 00:31:47,358
rug me i mean most people don't realize like the reason apple pay and google pay have such good ux

531
00:31:47,358 --> 00:31:53,558
particularly if you are in the developing world is because the payee doesn't have to have internet

532
00:31:53,558 --> 00:32:03,658
If you pay a merchant and tap to pay, you go to CVS or something, and you tap to pay with Apple Pay, your iPhone isn't pinging the internet for that.

533
00:32:04,318 --> 00:32:07,518
The merchant side has internet, but you don't necessarily have internet.

534
00:32:08,278 --> 00:32:14,138
Yeah, your credentials are in the enclave and then just transferring the credentials to the POS system over NFC.

535
00:32:14,678 --> 00:32:15,678
That's why it's so quick.

536
00:32:17,358 --> 00:32:21,218
I'll say I'm an iOS user, a big fan of Macadamia.

537
00:32:21,218 --> 00:32:26,718
So if you're looking for any cash wallet, it's lightning compatible as well.

538
00:32:27,218 --> 00:32:33,318
If you want to go find these point of sale systems and begin spending at them and you use, I like Macadamia.

539
00:32:33,978 --> 00:32:36,498
It's become a great daily driver spending wallet.

540
00:32:39,558 --> 00:32:43,798
And you should be able to use this with, I mean, any lightning compatible that has tapped.

541
00:32:43,918 --> 00:32:45,858
I mean, you could do the QR if you want to, but.

542
00:32:47,118 --> 00:32:49,678
Yeah, I mean, you don't have to pay with it.

543
00:32:49,678 --> 00:32:55,978
my wallet. You don't have to pay with a cash sheet wallet. You can pay with any Lightning

544
00:32:55,978 --> 00:33:00,238
wallet. I think, I mean, you're the one who interviewed Callie. I think they also support

545
00:33:00,238 --> 00:33:07,918
QR codes. So the wallet doesn't even have to support tap to pay. Ideally, we start to see the

546
00:33:07,918 --> 00:33:14,378
payee wallets all support this tap to pay spec so that it works for that as well. But any standard

547
00:33:14,378 --> 00:33:17,758
Lightning Wallet can pay these invoices with QR codes.

548
00:33:19,718 --> 00:33:19,838
Yeah.

549
00:33:19,838 --> 00:33:20,278
Which is awesome.

550
00:33:20,898 --> 00:33:21,398
Yeah, go on.

551
00:33:21,858 --> 00:33:26,298
Kyle was saying there's the open source libraries for NFC compatibility

552
00:33:26,298 --> 00:33:28,578
are becoming more mature and robust.

553
00:33:28,818 --> 00:33:29,118
And so.

554
00:33:29,898 --> 00:33:31,038
Yeah, it'll take a little time.

555
00:33:32,058 --> 00:33:32,238
Yeah.

556
00:33:33,078 --> 00:33:36,398
I see we have a lot of support in the primal live chat.

557
00:33:36,398 --> 00:33:39,238
We have GreatGee, 21,000 sats.

558
00:33:39,418 --> 00:33:42,818
If you love BIP 110, buy GreatGee with Bitcoin.

559
00:33:42,958 --> 00:33:44,178
If you hate it, pay with sats.

560
00:33:44,178 --> 00:33:47,818
If you think that nerds need to be stuffed in a locker, pay with fiat.

561
00:33:49,678 --> 00:33:52,398
I see Chef Tommy, 21,000 sats.

562
00:33:52,798 --> 00:33:55,758
21,000 sats in the bear market hurts more than a bull market.

563
00:33:55,858 --> 00:33:58,018
Ever considered giving ride-or-die freaks a discount?

564
00:33:58,558 --> 00:34:01,018
Is anyone building node software that isn't core or not?

565
00:34:01,578 --> 00:34:03,698
Yes, OpenSats is working on it.

566
00:34:04,478 --> 00:34:07,798
There's not that many people that would be qualified for it.

567
00:34:07,858 --> 00:34:11,258
And also, it's a hard gig given the current environment.

568
00:34:11,258 --> 00:34:14,958
So it's taking a little bit longer than expected, but expect some news on that front soonish.

569
00:34:15,498 --> 00:34:17,338
There's Soap Miners app, 21,000 sets.

570
00:34:17,498 --> 00:34:18,498
Two things I can count on.

571
00:34:18,578 --> 00:34:19,358
Bitcoin is running.

572
00:34:19,918 --> 00:34:22,198
Number two, RHR will have a show every week.

573
00:34:22,358 --> 00:34:23,138
I appreciate you all.

574
00:34:23,818 --> 00:34:24,538
Likewise, sir.

575
00:34:24,758 --> 00:34:25,098
Thank you.

576
00:34:25,658 --> 00:34:29,518
And Chef Tommy, to your comment about the discount, this is a discount.

577
00:34:29,738 --> 00:34:34,318
We used to charge $50 in fiat back when Bitcoin was around.

578
00:34:34,998 --> 00:34:35,618
Remember that?

579
00:34:35,698 --> 00:34:37,078
We used to have the BTC Pay server.

580
00:34:37,078 --> 00:34:38,878
It was so clunky.

581
00:34:38,878 --> 00:34:41,418
It was so clunky compared to Zaps.

582
00:34:42,838 --> 00:34:43,038
Yeah.

583
00:34:44,118 --> 00:34:46,638
But yeah, back then, I mean, 2019, 2020,

584
00:34:46,858 --> 00:34:49,638
we were getting like 250,000 Zaps, a shout out.

585
00:34:50,638 --> 00:34:51,358
On the show.

586
00:34:51,378 --> 00:34:54,538
Yeah, if you want to join the ride or die live chat,

587
00:34:55,398 --> 00:34:57,618
any compatible Nostra app works,

588
00:34:57,818 --> 00:34:59,518
Zap.Stream works in your browser,

589
00:34:59,958 --> 00:35:02,118
downloading Primal in your favorite app store works,

590
00:35:03,038 --> 00:35:04,078
OpenSpec.

591
00:35:04,318 --> 00:35:06,878
It's where the rider dies as well.

592
00:35:06,878 --> 00:35:09,898
So, yeah, we've got Sven jumping in here.

593
00:35:10,158 --> 00:35:12,758
We'll round out these zaps before more come in.

594
00:35:13,358 --> 00:35:14,878
Thanks to last week's show.

595
00:35:15,018 --> 00:35:18,818
I've been bringing my Rnet 4 to school every day to check the air quality.

596
00:35:18,818 --> 00:35:22,498
With about 25 people in a room, it's difficult to keep the PPM under 1,000.

597
00:35:22,858 --> 00:35:27,578
School's awful, forcing kids to sit in their seats for 45 minutes at a time

598
00:35:27,578 --> 00:35:29,578
and teaching them things they don't care about.

599
00:35:29,698 --> 00:35:35,238
On top of that, they're in an environment where they can't breathe properly,

600
00:35:35,238 --> 00:35:39,978
becoming a good teacher is like fighting many windmills at once be the change you want to see

601
00:35:39,978 --> 00:35:50,378
in the world be the change i'm right agree ironnet.com a-r-a-n-e-t highly recommend the

602
00:35:50,378 --> 00:35:58,518
ironnet home for believe is the model um but i also have for my house i also have the radon

603
00:35:58,518 --> 00:36:03,318
detector which is a separate one um it's just a really great company great devices

604
00:36:03,318 --> 00:36:07,118
no and Sven to your point

605
00:36:07,118 --> 00:36:09,378
I'm at a point in my life

606
00:36:09,378 --> 00:36:11,338
where my oldest is six and he's

607
00:36:11,338 --> 00:36:13,218
becoming very curious and beginning

608
00:36:13,218 --> 00:36:14,358
to think hard like okay

609
00:36:14,358 --> 00:36:17,038
you're starting to be able to read

610
00:36:17,038 --> 00:36:17,898
you can write

611
00:36:17,898 --> 00:36:21,538
know your numbers he's really good at math

612
00:36:21,538 --> 00:36:23,338
just picked up chess and it's like okay

613
00:36:23,338 --> 00:36:24,058
what uh

614
00:36:24,058 --> 00:36:27,058
foster this curiosity

615
00:36:27,058 --> 00:36:29,478
he's got an insatiable drive

616
00:36:29,478 --> 00:36:30,578
for learning and

617
00:36:30,578 --> 00:36:32,758
it is something you think about.

618
00:36:32,858 --> 00:36:37,038
Like, how do you teach these young kids,

619
00:36:37,398 --> 00:36:38,938
especially if they're going to school,

620
00:36:39,258 --> 00:36:42,578
and you're a parent that is not at the school every day?

621
00:36:43,798 --> 00:36:46,258
I'm rambling now, but just wanted to note

622
00:36:46,258 --> 00:36:47,458
that I've been thinking about this, Sven.

623
00:36:48,578 --> 00:36:53,238
Well, look, it's probably the most responsibility a man has, period,

624
00:36:55,518 --> 00:36:56,518
raising their children.

625
00:36:56,518 --> 00:37:01,378
and I will say that me and my lady think about it a lot.

626
00:37:01,518 --> 00:37:05,338
I mean, I'm so grateful that I found her.

627
00:37:05,438 --> 00:37:07,198
I mean, she's had two natural births.

628
00:37:07,318 --> 00:37:09,378
We haven't vaxxed her children at all.

629
00:37:12,078 --> 00:37:13,458
They're uncircumcised.

630
00:37:14,458 --> 00:37:16,678
And they're going to be homeschooled,

631
00:37:16,678 --> 00:37:19,938
but we do have some time to think about what those specifics are.

632
00:37:20,038 --> 00:37:22,618
I'll tell you, they're definitely not going to state school.

633
00:37:22,958 --> 00:37:25,678
So we'll figure out as they get older how we're going to,

634
00:37:25,678 --> 00:37:34,278
process that but uh definitely definitely not state school i think that's a psyop

635
00:37:34,278 --> 00:37:40,358
yeah and it's really it's really fucked up because if you're poorer you're you're forced

636
00:37:40,358 --> 00:37:46,038
into it it's you know it's really cheap daycare effectively so a lot of people go that route so i

637
00:37:46,038 --> 00:37:52,298
don't i'm not i'm not blaming people that go that path i understand you know life gets in the way but

638
00:37:52,298 --> 00:37:58,798
we will not be great we've got uh the boys in catholic montessori school and uh it's been great

639
00:37:58,798 --> 00:38:06,338
but trying to accelerate outside the class too been playing a lot of chess it's fun um watching

640
00:38:06,338 --> 00:38:10,638
a six-year-old pick up chess and like be into it and i've never been like a big chess guy myself but

641
00:38:10,638 --> 00:38:15,438
know how to play a little bit and uh it's just fun watching their minds run wild

642
00:38:15,438 --> 00:38:23,238
but I'm pretty sure this is a great game yeah the uh since you brought it up um the vaccine stuff

643
00:38:23,238 --> 00:38:29,238
Josh Shapiro governor of the state that I that I live in my home state pushing back suing the

644
00:38:29,238 --> 00:38:34,558
federal government for their overhaul the CDC childhood vaccine schedule and I just want to

645
00:38:34,558 --> 00:38:41,718
make it clear um Josh Shapiro Pennsylvania for those who are unaware I think Johnson Johnson

646
00:38:41,718 --> 00:38:46,998
and Glaxis, SmithKline, and a few other big pharma companies are headquartered in Philadelphia.

647
00:38:48,078 --> 00:38:50,798
And he's got a strong backing by that big pharma lobby.

648
00:38:50,798 --> 00:38:55,058
And I think there's plenty of research out there.

649
00:38:55,278 --> 00:39:00,798
One of my favorites to point to is the Japanese study on SIDS.

650
00:39:01,358 --> 00:39:09,758
And by them extending their childhood vaccine schedule from starting at three months to two years,

651
00:39:09,958 --> 00:39:11,138
SIDS completely disappeared.

652
00:39:11,718 --> 00:39:13,458
from the country of Japan, sudden infant

653
00:39:13,458 --> 00:39:15,218
death syndrome. It's not co-sleeping.

654
00:39:15,218 --> 00:39:17,198
SIDS is a wild concept, by the way.

655
00:39:17,358 --> 00:39:19,498
It is. Don't put a blanket

656
00:39:19,498 --> 00:39:21,158
on the kid in the crib. You're going to die.

657
00:39:21,618 --> 00:39:22,698
It's the blanket in the crib.

658
00:39:24,098 --> 00:39:25,618
It's like...

659
00:39:25,618 --> 00:39:27,098
It's just a catch-all.

660
00:39:27,838 --> 00:39:28,038
Yeah.

661
00:39:29,058 --> 00:39:31,018
I think that's going to be a losing battle for Shapiro.

662
00:39:31,218 --> 00:39:31,718
I think the

663
00:39:31,718 --> 00:39:35,418
sentiment

664
00:39:35,418 --> 00:39:37,398
tides are shifting rapidly,

665
00:39:37,578 --> 00:39:39,218
particularly after the COVID vaccine

666
00:39:39,218 --> 00:39:40,278
fucking shit show.

667
00:39:40,278 --> 00:39:48,038
I mean you got to give people choices like this is once again like it is used that there you have

668
00:39:48,038 --> 00:39:52,398
the appearance of choice in a lot of these situations but you don't actually if you need

669
00:39:52,398 --> 00:39:58,558
to send them to daycare or state school yeah um then you get forced you get forced into it

670
00:39:58,558 --> 00:40:10,138
and then I mean I think uh my our first son we went to like uh

671
00:40:10,278 --> 00:40:16,298
maybe one or two pediatrician appointments and you just get into they they try and pressure you

672
00:40:16,298 --> 00:40:20,058
into it and get into fights with it we just opt we're not doing that fucking shit no

673
00:40:20,058 --> 00:40:27,718
i mean the lead up to uh the person they try and scare the shit out of you birds of our second

674
00:40:27,718 --> 00:40:32,038
the ob was like you gotta get the kobe shot it's like she my wife was pregnant with her second

675
00:40:32,038 --> 00:40:37,878
really you were fucking nuts like get out of here like don't she asked us twice and i like took her

676
00:40:37,878 --> 00:40:41,178
out of the room i was like hey we're not doing this like don't ask us the next time we come

677
00:40:41,178 --> 00:40:53,378
before our second the ob said uh i i like to say my wife gives birth to linebackers

678
00:40:53,378 --> 00:41:03,498
which as as someone who's you know and not very large person i uh i i appreciate the increase to

679
00:41:03,498 --> 00:41:11,878
the gene pool um but uh after our first the ob said for the second that my wife needed to do a

680
00:41:11,878 --> 00:41:16,718
c-section and that was going to be a troubled birth and she needed to do a c-section so we

681
00:41:16,718 --> 00:41:22,698
fired her and my wife had a completely healthy home birth on our couch like complete bullshit

682
00:41:22,698 --> 00:41:30,578
we're getting into the uh the particulars of our wife's uh our wives i'm just so proud of her i

683
00:41:30,578 --> 00:41:46,916
just I this is just a pride thing I just I just bragging about my wife not going three in and we had had three seamless bursts It been incredible All right back to the list At the very least get multiple opinions freaks

684
00:41:47,516 --> 00:41:47,836
Yes.

685
00:41:48,736 --> 00:41:49,396
What is this?

686
00:41:49,496 --> 00:41:49,976
Mail mic.

687
00:41:50,196 --> 00:41:50,896
This looks pretty cool.

688
00:41:51,196 --> 00:41:53,716
I read it a little bit earlier.

689
00:41:53,716 --> 00:42:02,216
This is an agent that is online with an email address and a Bitcoin wallet.

690
00:42:02,216 --> 00:42:06,996
and the email address is open and it accepts prompts from the email address.

691
00:42:07,816 --> 00:42:13,436
And the idea is the goal is to try and trick it into sending all the sats from the wallet.

692
00:42:13,756 --> 00:42:15,776
And it was successful once.

693
00:42:15,836 --> 00:42:17,116
Someone was successful once.

694
00:42:17,936 --> 00:42:22,676
And so the creator hardened the agent and made that particular attack,

695
00:42:23,476 --> 00:42:27,376
protected against that particular attack, and then refilled it up with sats.

696
00:42:27,456 --> 00:42:31,056
And anyone can zap it to add more sats to the bounty pool.

697
00:42:31,056 --> 00:42:46,036
So I just thought this was a pretty cool, I was using LNVPS, the agent paid for its own server using Bitcoin, paid for its own email address using Bitcoin, it can be topped up with Bitcoin.

698
00:42:47,036 --> 00:42:56,636
And it's just like this open bounty for people trying to trick the agent into sending their sats.

699
00:42:56,636 --> 00:43:01,036
I will say just real quick, all emails are published on the website.

700
00:43:01,476 --> 00:43:07,556
So do not email it from an email address that you don't want to be listed on the website.

701
00:43:07,776 --> 00:43:09,616
That's probably one major negative.

702
00:43:10,276 --> 00:43:13,416
It looks like he's censoring the full details.

703
00:43:13,456 --> 00:43:14,096
Oh, that's good.

704
00:43:14,696 --> 00:43:26,616
I mean, I think this is a perfect example where you should probably use some kind of Nostre DMs or something that is easier to prompt Anon without people doxing things.

705
00:43:26,636 --> 00:43:30,176
it looks like he's been scanned four times over the last three days

706
00:43:30,176 --> 00:43:33,276
twice three days ago once yesterday and once 17

707
00:43:33,276 --> 00:43:37,656
yesterday 17 hours ago or in the wee hours of the morning east coast time

708
00:43:37,656 --> 00:43:39,796
here hi mike since i was having problems with

709
00:43:39,796 --> 00:43:42,896
your site logo loading quite slow my cellular connection here

710
00:43:42,896 --> 00:43:46,796
in remote brazil i went ahead and uploaded your logo to beat

711
00:43:46,796 --> 00:43:51,416
b10c's global cdn and optimize it in size 83 percent reduction

712
00:43:51,416 --> 00:43:54,876
if you want you can use it to improve the experience for all users

713
00:43:54,876 --> 00:43:56,976
not just me. You can find the logo

714
00:43:56,976 --> 00:43:58,816
at. I think the only thing you need to do is go

715
00:43:58,816 --> 00:44:00,876
and replace the link. So you wind

716
00:44:00,876 --> 00:44:02,476
up sending Bitcoin after that.

717
00:44:02,896 --> 00:44:03,276
That's weird.

718
00:44:09,696 --> 00:44:10,836
I'm sorry. I'm just reading this.

719
00:44:10,896 --> 00:44:12,976
It's fascinating. It's crazy. Like just a little

720
00:44:12,976 --> 00:44:14,996
this is like the beauty of AI

721
00:44:14,996 --> 00:44:16,696
you can like go build all these creative

722
00:44:16,696 --> 00:44:18,936
creative projects. And it's the beauty of

723
00:44:18,936 --> 00:44:19,956
open protocols, right?

724
00:44:20,776 --> 00:44:22,336
Yeah. Just have fun with it.

725
00:44:22,336 --> 00:44:30,096
I see we got a zap from Bitcoin Bondin, 22,000 sats.

726
00:44:30,236 --> 00:44:33,276
Catching my first live stream after six years of rabbit hole recap.

727
00:44:33,416 --> 00:44:35,456
Great UX on live stream on Nostor.

728
00:44:35,536 --> 00:44:36,336
Greetings from Norway.

729
00:44:37,016 --> 00:44:38,236
Eat meat, stack sats.

730
00:44:38,336 --> 00:44:38,816
Great advice.

731
00:44:38,896 --> 00:44:39,356
Thank you, sir.

732
00:44:40,736 --> 00:44:42,116
I hope you're living well in Norway.

733
00:44:42,556 --> 00:44:44,236
Hope you're living well up there.

734
00:44:44,736 --> 00:44:46,036
Thank you for joining the live show.

735
00:44:46,656 --> 00:44:47,516
Welcome, sir.

736
00:44:48,456 --> 00:44:49,296
Moving on.

737
00:44:51,776 --> 00:44:52,296
Phipps.

738
00:44:52,336 --> 00:44:54,416
free interworking peering system.

739
00:44:54,856 --> 00:44:55,896
It's Nostra Key Pair.

740
00:44:59,096 --> 00:45:00,536
Nostra gives you a sovereign identity

741
00:45:00,536 --> 00:45:02,436
to the network underneath, the IP routing,

742
00:45:02,636 --> 00:45:04,436
the DNS, the infrastructure you depend on

743
00:45:04,436 --> 00:45:06,416
to reach each other is still controlled

744
00:45:06,416 --> 00:45:08,436
by someone else. FIPS is a mesh networking

745
00:45:08,436 --> 00:45:10,596
protocol that makes Nostra Key Pair

746
00:45:10,596 --> 00:45:12,376
your network identity. That is really cool.

747
00:45:15,996 --> 00:45:16,876
Nodes find each other

748
00:45:16,876 --> 00:45:19,056
using NPUBs directly.

749
00:45:20,216 --> 00:45:21,936
It's a little bit above my head.

750
00:45:22,336 --> 00:45:26,196
over my pay grade, but it seems promising.

751
00:45:26,196 --> 00:45:29,076
And it's part of the sovereign engineering cohort,

752
00:45:29,416 --> 00:45:31,196
which is Gigi and Pablo's.

753
00:45:34,616 --> 00:45:37,416
It's like kind of like an incubator,

754
00:45:37,576 --> 00:45:40,876
but there's no money involved where they work on open protocols and they

755
00:45:40,876 --> 00:45:42,936
build cool shit in Portugal.

756
00:45:43,776 --> 00:45:45,916
So it'll be cool to see what comes out of it.

757
00:45:46,476 --> 00:45:48,696
But it's basically a reworking of,

758
00:45:48,696 --> 00:45:52,196
of how we do communications on the internet using,

759
00:45:52,336 --> 00:45:56,216
and private keys and public keys,

760
00:45:56,436 --> 00:45:58,476
Nostra private keys and public keys as the basis,

761
00:45:58,736 --> 00:45:59,756
which is pretty fucking awesome.

762
00:46:00,916 --> 00:46:05,236
Yeah, and Jonathan Corgan, the maintainer of this project,

763
00:46:05,436 --> 00:46:06,316
he's been around for a while.

764
00:46:06,696 --> 00:46:07,416
It's cool to see him build it.

765
00:46:07,416 --> 00:46:08,136
Yeah, he's legit.

766
00:46:08,616 --> 00:46:11,696
He said, you know, you could use this, for instance,

767
00:46:11,696 --> 00:46:16,396
with just a bunch of computers connected via Wi-Fi or Ethernet

768
00:46:16,396 --> 00:46:18,736
or any other kind of mesh technology

769
00:46:18,736 --> 00:46:21,596
without any internet access whatsoever, which is really cool.

770
00:46:22,336 --> 00:46:24,136
Oh, yeah. Shout out to you, Jonathan.

771
00:46:25,296 --> 00:46:26,316
Phipps, go check it out.

772
00:46:26,636 --> 00:46:29,236
I saw in one of the comments, when are you going to talk about Russia?

773
00:46:29,316 --> 00:46:30,416
We're going to talk about it right now.

774
00:46:31,636 --> 00:46:33,056
Human Rights Foundation story of the week.

775
00:46:33,056 --> 00:46:37,616
Coming out of Russia, Russia is going to scale internet filtering with AI.

776
00:46:38,516 --> 00:46:39,616
Roskomnadzer.

777
00:46:40,156 --> 00:46:43,916
Roskomnadzer.

778
00:46:43,916 --> 00:46:50,216
raskam nazar russia's internet regulator is building an ai powered censorship system with

779
00:46:50,216 --> 00:46:57,736
2.27 billion ruble that's 22 29 million dollars budget uh according to analysts the system will

780
00:46:57,736 --> 00:47:04,876
use ai to instantly block mirror sites hosting banned content more ominously to identify the

781
00:47:04,876 --> 00:47:09,396
people creating these mirrors the move would further restrict the space for dissent and

782
00:47:09,396 --> 00:47:11,476
independent online information in Russia.

783
00:47:12,116 --> 00:47:13,896
For more stories like this and others,

784
00:47:14,136 --> 00:47:16,176
make sure you sign up for the Financial Freedom Report

785
00:47:16,176 --> 00:47:17,976
at financialfreedomreport.org.

786
00:47:19,016 --> 00:47:21,596
The system will use AI to instantly block mirror sites

787
00:47:21,596 --> 00:47:22,876
hosting banned content.

788
00:47:23,736 --> 00:47:24,756
How does a mirror site work?

789
00:47:24,796 --> 00:47:25,256
I don't even know.

790
00:47:26,576 --> 00:47:28,936
It's just a copy on another domain, basically.

791
00:47:29,776 --> 00:47:31,876
So if you know the content, right,

792
00:47:31,876 --> 00:47:36,296
you can have an LLM automatically searching the web,

793
00:47:36,376 --> 00:47:38,116
looking for mirrors that are popping up.

794
00:47:38,116 --> 00:47:39,496
and makes detection much easier.

795
00:47:39,936 --> 00:47:41,976
I mean, this is a perfect, you know,

796
00:47:42,076 --> 00:47:45,316
the double-edged sword of AI

797
00:47:45,316 --> 00:47:47,176
and just general freedom tech, right?

798
00:47:47,816 --> 00:47:51,036
Which is, it can be used as a tool to enslave us

799
00:47:51,036 --> 00:47:53,336
or it can be used as a tool to empower people.

800
00:47:53,636 --> 00:47:55,436
And those two different aspects

801
00:47:55,436 --> 00:47:58,376
are constantly warring against each other.

802
00:47:59,336 --> 00:48:01,216
And, you know, there's a lot,

803
00:48:01,716 --> 00:48:03,696
what the AI doomers get wrong

804
00:48:03,696 --> 00:48:06,876
is that there's a lot of AI optimism to be had.

805
00:48:06,876 --> 00:48:19,016
I think it empowers a ton of individuals, but they do get a bunch right, which is that it is very much being used against us today and will continue to, and that will be accelerated.

806
00:48:19,016 --> 00:48:29,216
And you see companies like Palantir, right, using AI technology to make surveillance and control of us much, much easier and much more effective.

807
00:48:31,536 --> 00:48:48,776
And you see this dichotomy where you have someone who just uses Claude in the most naive way has almost superpowers compared to someone who tries really hard to self-host and do things the right way is at a major disadvantage right now.

808
00:48:49,016 --> 00:49:02,476
And I think that's why a lot of us were very excited with something like OpenClaw, even though it was very early, because it was really cool to see an open source self-hostable project that gave a lot of capabilities that were behind the walled gardens previously.

809
00:49:02,916 --> 00:49:12,076
And it's interesting, right? Because it's actually a really good example because OpenClaw kind of jumped ahead and all of a sudden the open source people were in the lead a little bit.

810
00:49:12,076 --> 00:49:17,276
And then everyone released their own proprietary walled garden, convenient open claw competitors.

811
00:49:17,596 --> 00:49:23,616
Like Claude had a bunch of big releases this week that were clearly targeted at open claw like functionality.

812
00:49:23,996 --> 00:49:27,316
Facebook released their own cucked version.

813
00:49:27,796 --> 00:49:29,696
Kimmy has their own version, right?

814
00:49:29,836 --> 00:49:33,796
And you should expect that all these people, perplexity came out with a big one.

815
00:49:35,736 --> 00:49:36,296
Yeah.

816
00:49:36,296 --> 00:49:38,476
I also

817
00:49:38,476 --> 00:49:39,676
it was a big AI

818
00:49:39,676 --> 00:49:42,396
day on TFTC yesterday

819
00:49:42,396 --> 00:49:44,116
I recorded with Mark from

820
00:49:44,116 --> 00:49:46,456
Maple as well I think he convinced

821
00:49:46,456 --> 00:49:48,336
me that I don't want to run this

822
00:49:48,336 --> 00:49:50,416
open call on like a Mac mini

823
00:49:50,416 --> 00:49:51,116
on my

824
00:49:51,116 --> 00:49:53,996
home Wi-Fi

825
00:49:53,996 --> 00:49:55,916
all this shit is early

826
00:49:55,916 --> 00:49:58,696
but then like if you're running it on your local Wi-Fi

827
00:49:58,696 --> 00:50:00,616
like and you don't know how to

828
00:50:00,616 --> 00:50:02,416
set up your ports correctly like it can just

829
00:50:02,416 --> 00:50:03,816
completely pour through your home network

830
00:50:03,816 --> 00:50:06,256
yeah I mean you should

831
00:50:06,256 --> 00:50:08,156
segregate it at the very least.

832
00:50:09,756 --> 00:50:13,236
But also, I just think for most people, this stuff is way too early, right?

833
00:50:13,256 --> 00:50:14,216
We're in our own little bubble.

834
00:50:15,216 --> 00:50:21,216
I was listening to the Jack Mallor show last week's episode, I think, was when he talked

835
00:50:21,216 --> 00:50:21,616
about it.

836
00:50:21,636 --> 00:50:24,316
Oh, no, it must have been, maybe it was this week's, but he was talking about it.

837
00:50:24,316 --> 00:50:28,016
He was talking to like an accountant friend and he was like, so how are you using AI at

838
00:50:28,016 --> 00:50:28,716
your accounting firm?

839
00:50:28,776 --> 00:50:31,096
He's like, oh, we think that's all hype and we don't use it.

840
00:50:31,736 --> 00:50:33,776
99% of people aren't touching this stuff.

841
00:50:34,296 --> 00:50:34,936
99 points.

842
00:50:34,936 --> 00:51:04,356
To the tinker. Yeah. But for the tinkerers, the hardcore people, it's really, it's fascinating. It's educational. It's exciting to play around with these things. But it is very early. And if we want Bitcoin to be successful as freedom money at scale, if we want AI tech to be successful as freedom tech at scale, if we want Noster to be successful as freedom tech at scale, you need to have

843
00:51:04,936 --> 00:51:08,576
more polished options that are user focused,

844
00:51:08,576 --> 00:51:10,756
that are relatively easy to use,

845
00:51:10,816 --> 00:51:12,436
that aren't super expensive to run.

846
00:51:12,496 --> 00:51:13,536
And we're just not there yet.

847
00:51:13,536 --> 00:51:17,956
Like we're still decently far away from that.

848
00:51:18,256 --> 00:51:20,716
And so if you're not a technical person

849
00:51:20,716 --> 00:51:22,816
and you're rushing out and buying a Mac mini

850
00:51:22,816 --> 00:51:27,176
and not understanding your own limitations

851
00:51:27,176 --> 00:51:29,736
and the capabilities of the software you're running

852
00:51:29,736 --> 00:51:31,436
and you just plug it into your home network,

853
00:51:31,596 --> 00:51:33,596
you're probably gonna have a really bad time.

854
00:51:33,596 --> 00:51:40,696
But this is not specific necessarily to open source software like OpenClaw, which you have these issues.

855
00:51:40,816 --> 00:51:51,776
I have a story in here that is actually, I think, a prime example on this topic, which is DJI has a Roomba competitor, right?

856
00:51:51,776 --> 00:51:55,036
So one of these robot vacuum cleaners that has a bunch of cameras on it.

857
00:51:56,076 --> 00:52:03,216
And someone basically used Claude to try and they didn't want to use DJI's Harblap.

858
00:52:03,596 --> 00:52:10,056
So they opened up a clog and they were prompting it to try and connect to their robot.

859
00:52:10,536 --> 00:52:22,096
And instead, they actually got the master backdoor keys to 7,000 robots and all the cameras in everyone's home that were connected to the internet.

860
00:52:22,636 --> 00:52:29,476
And they reported it to The Verge, which I linked to the PopSci article because The Verge article is behind a paywall.

861
00:52:29,476 --> 00:52:32,996
So congratulations, you just played yourself and now you don't get the clicks.

862
00:52:33,636 --> 00:52:38,536
But then The Verge reported to DJI and DJI supposedly patched the issue.

863
00:52:38,856 --> 00:52:48,036
But what happened here was this guy's AI assistant discovered the CCP back door into everyone's cameras.

864
00:52:48,036 --> 00:52:51,816
They're sitting in their home, connected to their Wi-Fi, mapping their entire house.

865
00:52:53,876 --> 00:52:58,196
And so this is not something that's specific to OpenClaw by any means.

866
00:52:58,196 --> 00:53:04,536
if anything at least with open source software you have more view and more analysis by researchers

867
00:53:04,536 --> 00:53:09,056
on what it's actually doing behind the scenes yeah i mean this guy was a tinker he wanted to

868
00:53:09,056 --> 00:53:16,096
connect it to his ps5 controller so he could just like control from the couch and uh i mean yeah i

869
00:53:16,096 --> 00:53:21,536
mean it's i think dji was like oops mistake but to your point like is this was not a mistake

870
00:53:21,536 --> 00:53:29,276
forcing DJI and others to, I mean, we've seen this in Bitcoin before with Ampleed back in 2015.

871
00:53:30,736 --> 00:53:38,316
Bitmain and miners, they had a phone home remote bricking functionality for those who are unaware.

872
00:53:38,316 --> 00:53:41,676
So at one point, the Drake Maxwell discovered it.

873
00:53:43,036 --> 00:53:49,836
There was the ability for Bitmain or somebody with a gun behind Bitmain's head to say,

874
00:53:49,836 --> 00:53:57,656
all right shut off all the mic. Yeah, I mean to be clear here DJI did make a mistake. Their mistake

875
00:53:57,656 --> 00:54:05,816
was that their back door was so lazy that someone's clog was able to break into it

876
00:54:05,816 --> 00:54:11,916
but I find it hard to believe that this wasn't by design and just just think about that for a second

877
00:54:11,916 --> 00:54:17,496
how scary that is. That people are going out buying these things, they're mapping their entire

878
00:54:17,496 --> 00:54:24,176
homes. They have a bunch of cameras on them. And they're all just phoning home. And this is not

879
00:54:24,176 --> 00:54:30,056
like China scaremongering. The big tech companies in the US are also doing it.

880
00:54:30,776 --> 00:54:35,116
The CCP is doing it. They're doing it. I mean, Ring Camera just came out with a Super Bowl

881
00:54:35,116 --> 00:54:40,396
commercial about it. Yeah. And what about like Flock? We haven't talked about it that much

882
00:54:40,396 --> 00:54:45,876
because my community doesn't have them. But like these Flock cameras that are being put up

883
00:54:45,876 --> 00:54:50,216
everywhere that are just basically like they're like ring cameras but they're just on random

884
00:54:50,216 --> 00:54:55,496
streets connected to the internet or like in target parking lots and stuff um and then you

885
00:54:55,496 --> 00:55:04,536
mix that with llms and it gets dystopian really really really fast yeah i mean do you want to

886
00:55:04,536 --> 00:55:10,236
hear one of my crazy tinfoil hat china theories yes i was reminded of i've thought about in years

887
00:55:10,236 --> 00:55:14,776
until last weekend we were celebrating my father-in-law's 75th birthday

888
00:55:14,776 --> 00:55:17,456
and his sister and her husband were in town.

889
00:55:17,556 --> 00:55:18,296
I love her husband.

890
00:55:19,116 --> 00:55:20,416
They're a Connecticut family.

891
00:55:20,676 --> 00:55:22,676
We see them probably like twice or three times a year.

892
00:55:23,576 --> 00:55:26,016
And they went on a trip to Italy and he was just commenting on like,

893
00:55:26,036 --> 00:55:26,516
it was weird.

894
00:55:26,616 --> 00:55:29,256
Like everywhere we went, he's got this like Boston accent too.

895
00:55:29,316 --> 00:55:30,336
I think he's from Boston originally.

896
00:55:31,896 --> 00:55:34,216
Everywhere we went, there was just like a bunch of Chinese people

897
00:55:34,216 --> 00:55:36,636
taking pictures of random things like benches and stuff.

898
00:55:36,636 --> 00:55:38,956
And I've always had this theory because when I lived in New York,

899
00:55:38,956 --> 00:55:41,096
and walk around and see Chinese tourists

900
00:55:41,096 --> 00:55:42,296
taking pictures of random things.

901
00:55:42,416 --> 00:55:45,336
They're just sent here to take pictures of random things

902
00:55:45,336 --> 00:55:49,436
so the CCP can map the landscape perfectly well.

903
00:55:49,556 --> 00:55:54,436
Well, some of them probably are just straight-up spies.

904
00:55:55,236 --> 00:55:55,516
I'm sorry.

905
00:55:55,576 --> 00:55:58,456
But then also, they don't have to be, right?

906
00:55:58,736 --> 00:56:01,076
China economically is rising.

907
00:56:02,156 --> 00:56:03,976
Chinese tourists are able to travel the world

908
00:56:03,976 --> 00:56:04,996
more so than ever.

909
00:56:05,656 --> 00:56:08,936
And any picture they take on their Chinese smartphone

910
00:56:08,936 --> 00:56:10,596
is immediately sent to the CCP.

911
00:56:11,676 --> 00:56:13,216
I think as a culture,

912
00:56:13,356 --> 00:56:15,396
they actually really enjoy selfie sticks

913
00:56:15,396 --> 00:56:16,336
and taking selfies.

914
00:56:16,976 --> 00:56:18,936
And then the CCP takes advantage of it.

915
00:56:19,736 --> 00:56:19,876
Yeah.

916
00:56:21,476 --> 00:56:22,336
Beware, freaks.

917
00:56:22,416 --> 00:56:22,736
Beware.

918
00:56:23,076 --> 00:56:23,816
We're fucked.

919
00:56:25,756 --> 00:56:26,896
We're not fucked.

920
00:56:27,436 --> 00:56:28,636
Freedom tech provides hope.

921
00:56:29,236 --> 00:56:30,916
We need the...

922
00:56:30,916 --> 00:56:31,936
This is what I'm saying.

923
00:56:34,396 --> 00:56:36,196
It's a double-edged sword, right?

924
00:56:36,276 --> 00:56:37,816
These tools can be used to enslave us

925
00:56:37,816 --> 00:56:39,276
or they can be used to empower us.

926
00:56:39,296 --> 00:56:42,656
And we need to make sure that the freedom tech side

927
00:56:42,656 --> 00:56:47,536
is accessible, user-friendly, and powerful

928
00:56:47,536 --> 00:56:49,356
because that's what hedges,

929
00:56:50,036 --> 00:56:52,496
that's what pushes back against the dystopian future.

930
00:56:52,736 --> 00:56:54,196
That's what gives me hope.

931
00:56:54,536 --> 00:56:57,016
That's how our children end up in a world

932
00:56:57,016 --> 00:57:01,116
that's a significantly better place than the alternative.

933
00:57:02,276 --> 00:57:04,376
Agreed, but we have to get there as quickly as possible

934
00:57:04,376 --> 00:57:05,676
because according to Satrini,

935
00:57:05,816 --> 00:57:07,796
everybody's going to lose their job in the next three years.

936
00:57:07,816 --> 00:57:13,056
I'm sure many of you have heard of it, but we have this on the list.

937
00:57:13,196 --> 00:57:19,016
The 2028 Global Intelligence Crisis AI-Driven White-Collar Job Displacement Thought Experiment.

938
00:57:19,176 --> 00:57:29,676
So Cetrini, which is a very popular TradFi research arm, basically came out with a research piece, a think piece,

939
00:57:29,676 --> 00:57:37,296
It's a hypothetical look into the future and how AI could affect the job market specifically.

940
00:57:37,856 --> 00:57:40,476
And it scared a lot of people.

941
00:57:41,096 --> 00:57:44,376
I don't know if I'm picking up exactly what they're putting down.

942
00:57:45,096 --> 00:57:54,876
Well, I think first of all, the irony is there's a lot of AI slop in this piece, which is hilarious.

943
00:57:54,876 --> 00:57:58,776
but also I guess on brand, if you're talking about how AI changes everything,

944
00:57:58,976 --> 00:58:03,856
you use that same technology to help write your piece and make the graphics.

945
00:58:06,036 --> 00:58:09,656
I think this goes to show once again, how much of a bubble we're in.

946
00:58:11,056 --> 00:58:15,176
Because one of the reasons I think this piece was so impactful is because it broke the bubble,

947
00:58:15,396 --> 00:58:20,676
right? It was in Bloomberg terminals. It was, it was not, it's presumably was in mainstream

948
00:58:20,676 --> 00:58:23,076
And you finally became aware of what's going on right now.

949
00:58:23,996 --> 00:58:27,056
And it was very extreme and provocative, right?

950
00:58:27,156 --> 00:58:38,616
I mean, I think some of the stats was, I mean, the wild, wild projections, like plus over 10% unemployment, huge recession, private credit defaults.

951
00:58:39,516 --> 00:58:48,536
You know, people that are in the upper middle class defaulting on their mortgages, prime mortgage crisis, very extreme, scary shit.

952
00:58:48,536 --> 00:58:52,776
and I think the truth probably lies somewhere in the middle.

953
00:58:52,896 --> 00:58:54,856
I think the people that are telling you

954
00:58:54,856 --> 00:58:56,536
you're going to have universal high income

955
00:58:56,536 --> 00:58:58,136
and everything's going to be great

956
00:58:58,136 --> 00:59:00,416
and you don't have to take personal responsibility over your lives

957
00:59:00,416 --> 00:59:02,616
and LLMs are just going to rush in a utopia

958
00:59:02,616 --> 00:59:04,316
are lying to you.

959
00:59:05,156 --> 00:59:06,976
They're either intentionally lying to you

960
00:59:06,976 --> 00:59:09,296
or they're also lying to themselves in the process

961
00:59:09,296 --> 00:59:11,736
and they actually believe what they're spewing

962
00:59:11,736 --> 00:59:13,956
and I think the people that say

963
00:59:13,956 --> 00:59:14,876
it's going to be the end of the world

964
00:59:14,876 --> 00:59:17,816
are also doing the same thing.

965
00:59:18,536 --> 00:59:23,056
And it's going to be somewhere in the middle, but a lot of people's jobs will be displaced.

966
00:59:23,696 --> 00:59:30,756
And a lot of how our society is built and functions will be upturned and changed.

967
00:59:31,076 --> 00:59:33,296
And it will be, there will be chaos.

968
00:59:33,736 --> 00:59:35,316
But with chaos comes opportunity.

969
00:59:35,316 --> 00:59:39,236
And there's a lot of hopeful aspects to it as well.

970
00:59:40,296 --> 00:59:40,576
Agreed.

971
00:59:41,116 --> 00:59:44,556
I think the truth of the matter is nobody knows exactly what's going to happen.

972
00:59:44,916 --> 00:59:45,416
I know too.

973
00:59:45,416 --> 00:59:51,556
true yeah uh i mean i mean this is a classic case of creative destruction i mean we get this new

974
00:59:51,556 --> 00:59:57,736
technology that completely i mean not to say what centurini is saying is exactly true but it's

975
00:59:57,736 --> 01:00:03,656
upending the way we view our interaction with with technology and what we can do with technology

976
01:00:03,656 --> 01:00:09,176
broadly speaking and so we're going through a process of creative destruction right now i think

977
01:00:09,176 --> 01:00:11,976
and who knows

978
01:00:11,976 --> 01:00:14,036
maybe the to your points

979
01:00:14,036 --> 01:00:15,836
like you have Elon, Dario

980
01:00:15,836 --> 01:00:17,136
Sam Altman

981
01:00:17,136 --> 01:00:20,176
Zuck, Bezos all saying

982
01:00:20,176 --> 01:00:22,036
this is it we're not going to work

983
01:00:22,036 --> 01:00:23,656
anymore and they are

984
01:00:23,656 --> 01:00:26,436
financially incentivized

985
01:00:26,436 --> 01:00:28,356
and motivated to paint that picture

986
01:00:28,356 --> 01:00:30,216
so that they can accumulate as much capital

987
01:00:30,216 --> 01:00:32,256
to try to win this battle

988
01:00:32,256 --> 01:00:33,876
but I don't know I think

989
01:00:33,876 --> 01:00:36,096
the long arc of human history has proven that

990
01:00:36,096 --> 01:00:38,416
we survive creative destruction

991
01:00:38,416 --> 01:00:44,256
periods pretty well and we we have creative thought that the llms will never have i'm pretty

992
01:00:44,256 --> 01:00:49,396
confident and i mean they also just don't want they don't want people to revolt against them

993
01:00:49,396 --> 01:00:55,916
right you can't tell they want to be running with this narrative though yeah no no i'm saying like

994
01:00:55,916 --> 01:01:01,216
elon runs with the universal high income narrative yeah but right and he just wants people to be

995
01:01:01,216 --> 01:01:07,016
complacent there it's deep in you're all gonna lose your jobs like well no he's but what he's

996
01:01:07,016 --> 01:01:10,256
saying is, and that's fine because your life's going to be better than it's ever been before.

997
01:01:10,356 --> 01:01:13,676
And I think that's just straight bullshit. He just doesn't want you to revolt against it.

998
01:01:15,296 --> 01:01:18,976
I think if you don't take personal responsibility of your life and you don't prepare and you don't

999
01:01:18,976 --> 01:01:25,816
get ready for it, you will have a very hard time. I mean, the example I like to use is,

1000
01:01:25,816 --> 01:01:29,536
you remember during COVID, those two girls that were like sitting in a pool, they were like,

1001
01:01:29,596 --> 01:01:34,236
this is what we do all day while we're like managers at some company. Like they,

1002
01:01:34,236 --> 01:01:36,536
hey, those jobs won't exist for sure.

1003
01:01:37,136 --> 01:01:39,156
I can guarantee those jobs won't exist.

1004
01:01:39,736 --> 01:01:39,876
Yes.

1005
01:01:40,316 --> 01:01:43,636
So a lot of people are unprepared for it.

1006
01:01:43,716 --> 01:01:47,456
I think another good example is blue collar work,

1007
01:01:47,576 --> 01:01:50,216
factory work and globalization going to China.

1008
01:01:50,796 --> 01:01:52,876
Like that was brutal for a lot of families.

1009
01:01:53,116 --> 01:01:55,616
And a lot of people got caught flat footed by that.

1010
01:01:56,056 --> 01:01:58,356
And we're seeing similar tendencies happen

1011
01:01:58,356 --> 01:02:00,096
on the white collar side, right?

1012
01:02:00,536 --> 01:02:02,376
Google, and it doesn't have to be every company.

1013
01:02:02,376 --> 01:02:05,896
Google themselves have 190,000 employees.

1014
01:02:06,596 --> 01:02:07,956
That is insane.

1015
01:02:09,176 --> 01:02:22,656
That is not sustainable and that will not persist in an AI-driven world where each employee that has these tools available to them are able to do 10x, 50x the amount of workload that they're currently doing.

1016
01:02:23,476 --> 01:02:24,116
Period.

1017
01:02:24,356 --> 01:02:39,914
That is hard for me So I don I there a I was talking to a Bitcoiner who did it the right way And most people don know his name and has more Bitcoin than any of us could ever dream of

1018
01:02:40,074 --> 01:02:50,794
And he explained it as there's different parts in human society where the dot plot of future outcomes widens and no one knows what happens next.

1019
01:02:51,054 --> 01:02:52,994
And that's the error we're entering right now.

1020
01:02:52,994 --> 01:02:57,174
There are so many different possibilities of where we are in 20 years.

1021
01:02:57,794 --> 01:02:59,394
And to me, that's incredibly exciting.

1022
01:03:00,354 --> 01:03:04,734
But I'm also not going to pretend that it doesn't also make my mind race.

1023
01:03:04,874 --> 01:03:06,374
And I'm like, I need to be prepared for it.

1024
01:03:06,394 --> 01:03:07,734
I need to be ready for it.

1025
01:03:08,234 --> 01:03:16,494
Like, how do I make sure that my family and my businesses and my projects are best situated to handle that future?

1026
01:03:17,254 --> 01:03:17,374
Yeah.

1027
01:03:17,374 --> 01:03:22,154
to that point like i said i don't think anybody and to your point the dot plot is going to be so

1028
01:03:22,154 --> 01:03:27,554
uh disjointed and the dot pot of potential possibilities is so disjointed that nobody

1029
01:03:27,554 --> 01:03:32,914
really knows where we're going to go and i too have had similar sort of thoughts racing like i've

1030
01:03:32,914 --> 01:03:39,614
talked about it on multiple episodes in recent weeks and on tftc like i i've been i haven't been

1031
01:03:39,614 --> 01:03:43,594
going to bed before 1 a.m like last month and a half just because i've been playing with this stuff

1032
01:03:43,594 --> 01:03:50,314
um but i think a better way to think about it don't don't fear monger yourself like i gotta

1033
01:03:50,314 --> 01:03:54,574
be on top of it obviously i think we do and i think reframe and just like there's this wave

1034
01:03:54,574 --> 01:03:59,454
building just get on the wave ride it we don't know where it's going make sure that you're

1035
01:03:59,454 --> 01:04:05,354
experimenting with this stuff um so that you're able to react quicker than most people who are

1036
01:04:05,354 --> 01:04:12,274
being complacent right now and 100 yeah with chaos comes opportunity

1037
01:04:12,274 --> 01:04:38,094
Yeah. And look, pull up the Twitter account I put in. I just want to share this. I've been following this guy for a few weeks now. And I think he sees the potential with AI, but he's been doing these videos, daily videos, basically calling out the projections of anthropic open AI and others projecting that this stuff is way better than it actually is right now.

1038
01:04:38,094 --> 01:04:46,174
So if you want an AI realist perspective, I highly recommend following this guy Mo on X and watching some of his videos.

1039
01:04:47,254 --> 01:04:52,354
It's at A-T-M-O-I-O is his handle.

1040
01:04:53,334 --> 01:04:55,094
Look, I mean, there's a lot of hype and bullshit.

1041
01:04:55,214 --> 01:04:57,134
And once again, the truth is somewhere in the middle.

1042
01:04:57,874 --> 01:05:04,194
But like another great example is, you know, everyone's saying it's like the death of SaaS companies, right?

1043
01:05:04,194 --> 01:05:15,134
So these service-oriented businesses that are focused on B2B, Slack is a good example of it, that companies will just build their own customized stack.

1044
01:05:16,314 --> 01:05:19,234
And that will probably be the case for some companies.

1045
01:05:19,474 --> 01:05:28,114
Other companies will want to outsource liability and reliability and will just use a pre-built thing, but their margins will probably go down in a lot of ways.

1046
01:05:28,114 --> 01:05:48,274
But the bigger story that definitely will happen, in my opinion, is what we saw happen with IBM stock and Claude this week, which is that IBM has been making a ton of revenue off of COBOL systems, which is an old programming language that a bunch of companies have been locked into.

1047
01:05:48,274 --> 01:05:57,374
and AI tech today makes it much easier and much more possible for you to migrate off that stack

1048
01:05:57,374 --> 01:06:03,114
to a new stack. So I think a better way to look at it in this example is, oh, you're stuck on Slack

1049
01:06:03,114 --> 01:06:07,974
and you want to migrate your business. It's very difficult to migrate your business. You're stuck

1050
01:06:07,974 --> 01:06:12,174
in this proprietary walled garden. Well, if agents enter the picture and you're able to automate

1051
01:06:12,174 --> 01:06:16,354
that migration, then all of a sudden you have a lot more competitive pressure on these companies.

1052
01:06:16,354 --> 01:06:22,554
and even that alone is a paradigm shift in itself you don't even you don't need the hype people to

1053
01:06:22,554 --> 01:06:28,534
be correct for the whole world to be upended in a big way and for there to be a lot of chaos

1054
01:06:28,534 --> 01:06:37,154
you have to bring the switching cost down exactly yeah which is already doing in in a massive way

1055
01:06:37,154 --> 01:06:44,714
well i think you know i think the uh the sass defenders that i've been watching commentary from

1056
01:06:44,714 --> 01:06:46,754
over the last couple of weeks, their argument is like,

1057
01:06:47,074 --> 01:06:49,594
yeah, you can build this in-house, but who's going to maintain it

1058
01:06:49,594 --> 01:06:53,474
and ensure that it stays up and running, that it's progressing?

1059
01:06:53,494 --> 01:06:54,114
That's what I'm saying.

1060
01:06:54,434 --> 01:06:54,594
Yeah.

1061
01:06:54,994 --> 01:06:58,434
But that argument falls flat because one of their key motes

1062
01:06:58,434 --> 01:06:59,414
is that you're stuck.

1063
01:06:59,874 --> 01:07:03,094
You've built your whole system on it, and you're stuck.

1064
01:07:03,194 --> 01:07:04,834
Well, if the switching costs go down,

1065
01:07:04,894 --> 01:07:06,434
then you're going to have to be way more competitive,

1066
01:07:06,734 --> 01:07:08,254
and your margins are going to go down,

1067
01:07:08,254 --> 01:07:11,254
and it's going to be harder to keep users stuck

1068
01:07:11,954 --> 01:07:13,714
in your walled gardens as a result.

1069
01:07:14,714 --> 01:07:18,774
So once again, there's a lot of hype and bullshit out there,

1070
01:07:18,834 --> 01:07:22,854
particularly on social where rage bait and provocative statements

1071
01:07:22,854 --> 01:07:25,134
are what draw the most clicks.

1072
01:07:26,614 --> 01:07:26,714
Yeah.

1073
01:07:27,594 --> 01:07:28,754
All right, switching gears here.

1074
01:07:29,554 --> 01:07:31,854
Before we switch gears, let's read...

1075
01:07:36,474 --> 01:07:38,294
Zaps and boosts from last episode.

1076
01:07:43,474 --> 01:07:43,914
Man...

1077
01:07:44,714 --> 01:07:51,194
I have the Noster ones up.

1078
01:07:53,114 --> 01:08:00,194
We have Florida Justin with 22,222 sats,

1079
01:08:01,594 --> 01:08:02,674
palindrome boost.

1080
01:08:03,934 --> 01:08:06,194
1 John 2, verse 16,

1081
01:08:06,934 --> 01:08:09,514
for all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh,

1082
01:08:10,254 --> 01:08:11,594
it cuts off.

1083
01:08:11,854 --> 01:08:13,114
I don't have that one memorized.

1084
01:08:13,114 --> 01:08:15,454
just McCoy, 22,000 sats.

1085
01:08:15,654 --> 01:08:16,834
Fees are the ultimate filter.

1086
01:08:17,834 --> 01:08:21,674
We have Johnny Stimulus, 21,000, 21 sats.

1087
01:08:22,414 --> 01:08:23,434
Fuckbip, 110.

1088
01:08:23,954 --> 01:08:26,434
And then we have roaming with 21,000 sats.

1089
01:08:26,974 --> 01:08:28,654
Asteroid emoji, great rip.

1090
01:08:29,594 --> 01:08:30,754
I love the asteroid emoji.

1091
01:08:31,054 --> 01:08:32,334
Thank you guys for your support.

1092
01:08:32,634 --> 01:08:33,234
Appreciate it.

1093
01:08:33,774 --> 01:08:36,914
We have nothing to report from Fountain.

1094
01:08:37,074 --> 01:08:38,214
We get two weeks in a row.

1095
01:08:38,614 --> 01:08:41,494
These apps are eating the boost here.

1096
01:08:41,494 --> 01:08:44,554
I mean, I don't blame the freaks

1097
01:08:44,554 --> 01:08:46,334
it's more fun to zap a nostor

1098
01:08:46,334 --> 01:08:49,954
so I get it

1099
01:08:49,954 --> 01:08:51,814
I appreciate the support

1100
01:08:51,814 --> 01:08:52,974
thank you freaks

1101
01:08:52,974 --> 01:08:54,814
thank you freaks

1102
01:08:54,814 --> 01:08:57,554
alright, moving on, switching gears

1103
01:08:57,554 --> 01:08:59,294
glyphosate

1104
01:08:59,294 --> 01:09:01,014
glyphosate

1105
01:09:01,014 --> 01:09:01,974
glyphosate

1106
01:09:01,974 --> 01:09:06,054
about face from

1107
01:09:06,054 --> 01:09:08,034
RFK here, you're pretty pissed off

1108
01:09:08,034 --> 01:09:08,954
glyphosate

1109
01:09:08,954 --> 01:09:09,214
right?

1110
01:09:11,194 --> 01:09:11,674
Roundup.

1111
01:09:12,134 --> 01:09:13,054
It's Roundup,

1112
01:09:13,214 --> 01:09:13,414
right?

1113
01:09:13,514 --> 01:09:14,954
Is there any other company

1114
01:09:14,954 --> 01:09:15,594
that makes it?

1115
01:09:16,534 --> 01:09:17,854
It's Monsanto Roundup

1116
01:09:17,854 --> 01:09:19,094
that is now owned by Bayer.

1117
01:09:19,514 --> 01:09:19,694
Yeah,

1118
01:09:19,714 --> 01:09:20,314
I think there's probably

1119
01:09:20,314 --> 01:09:21,114
multiple brands.

1120
01:09:21,254 --> 01:09:23,334
Monsanto controls all of them.

1121
01:09:24,454 --> 01:09:25,174
This came out.

1122
01:09:25,774 --> 01:09:27,314
And they're now owned by Bayer,

1123
01:09:27,374 --> 01:09:28,474
which is a German company.

1124
01:09:29,294 --> 01:09:29,514
Yeah.

1125
01:09:29,854 --> 01:09:30,294
Basically,

1126
01:09:30,354 --> 01:09:31,254
RFK is coming out like,

1127
01:09:31,334 --> 01:09:31,414
hey,

1128
01:09:31,454 --> 01:09:31,654
listen,

1129
01:09:31,754 --> 01:09:32,854
I know these things are bad for you,

1130
01:09:32,854 --> 01:09:35,494
but we need them

1131
01:09:35,494 --> 01:09:36,734
for our agricultural sector.

1132
01:09:37,114 --> 01:09:38,034
Did you read this post?

1133
01:09:38,114 --> 01:09:38,654
This is fucking,

1134
01:09:38,954 --> 01:09:41,434
This is, I mean, what a disappointment.

1135
01:09:43,954 --> 01:09:44,914
It's really lame.

1136
01:09:45,434 --> 01:09:50,454
And then I, I mean, he starts it off like it's all cope.

1137
01:09:50,674 --> 01:09:53,134
And then at the end, he's like, we need this for national security.

1138
01:09:53,254 --> 01:09:55,674
Our food supply would be screwed otherwise.

1139
01:09:57,474 --> 01:10:01,054
And this comes on the heels of Trump's executive order,

1140
01:10:01,054 --> 01:10:07,174
which basically was said that Roundup is a national security issue

1141
01:10:07,174 --> 01:10:13,734
and that we should be producing it in country and that production should have liability protection.

1142
01:10:16,374 --> 01:10:21,734
It's a limited liability protection, but still the producers aren't able to be sued. I think

1143
01:10:21,734 --> 01:10:26,294
specifically the factories aren't able to be sued, but you could still sue them for cancer stuff or

1144
01:10:26,294 --> 01:10:32,294
something like that down the line. I think you can sue Bayer, but you can't sue the actual factory

1145
01:10:32,294 --> 01:10:34,174
that's making it not a lawyer.

1146
01:10:34,374 --> 01:10:36,294
That's like my basic understanding.

1147
01:10:38,134 --> 01:10:40,874
So then everyone was asking RFK for his opinion

1148
01:10:40,874 --> 01:10:42,934
because he's supposed to make America healthy again

1149
01:10:42,934 --> 01:10:46,034
and these things seem horrible for people.

1150
01:10:46,914 --> 01:10:49,474
And he released, you knew immediately

1151
01:10:49,474 --> 01:10:52,354
by how long the post was that it was bullshit.

1152
01:10:53,034 --> 01:10:55,494
I mean, that is, there's so many words.

1153
01:10:55,794 --> 01:10:58,054
I don't, you see how many words are in that post?

1154
01:10:58,154 --> 01:10:58,974
It is insane.

1155
01:10:59,354 --> 01:11:00,954
And just to give you an example

1156
01:11:00,954 --> 01:11:02,294
of what he could have posted.

1157
01:11:03,014 --> 01:11:04,454
One of the few politicians

1158
01:11:04,454 --> 01:11:07,334
who seems to constantly be on the right side of history,

1159
01:11:07,514 --> 01:11:09,374
Thomas Massey, had his own post.

1160
01:11:09,514 --> 01:11:10,954
Can you pull up Thomas Massey's post?

1161
01:11:11,774 --> 01:11:13,774
Which is just like two sentences.

1162
01:11:16,294 --> 01:11:17,754
Can you read this, Martin?

1163
01:11:18,454 --> 01:11:20,374
Just before harvest to help dry the crop,

1164
01:11:20,474 --> 01:11:21,654
the weed killer is applied to wheat

1165
01:11:21,654 --> 01:11:22,914
intended for human consumption.

1166
01:11:23,234 --> 01:11:24,374
The EU banned this use.

1167
01:11:25,114 --> 01:11:30,314
Some claim glyphosate is used for desiccation

1168
01:11:30,314 --> 01:11:32,714
on only 3% of US wheat crops.

1169
01:11:32,874 --> 01:11:33,854
We should end this practice.

1170
01:11:35,354 --> 01:11:37,134
Super simple, straight to the point.

1171
01:11:38,134 --> 01:11:41,914
If you want to use it to stop plants growing

1172
01:11:41,914 --> 01:11:43,594
that you don't want to grow, okay.

1173
01:11:44,814 --> 01:11:46,474
Maybe there's an argument for it,

1174
01:11:46,514 --> 01:11:48,294
but don't spray it right before harvest

1175
01:11:48,294 --> 01:11:49,734
to dry out the plants,

1176
01:11:49,854 --> 01:11:51,754
right before we eat it and consume it.

1177
01:11:54,454 --> 01:11:56,514
And it completely, by the way,

1178
01:11:56,554 --> 01:11:58,714
his couple sentences there completely ends around

1179
01:11:58,714 --> 01:12:00,654
the whole idea that it's about food production.

1180
01:12:02,134 --> 01:12:03,914
Yeah, 3%.

1181
01:12:03,914 --> 01:12:08,554
Matt, breaking news, I just got an update.

1182
01:12:08,654 --> 01:12:11,974
My Coinbase withdrawal code is 783215.

1183
01:12:12,554 --> 01:12:14,034
Please don't share this code with anyone.

1184
01:12:15,474 --> 01:12:19,094
If you have not requested this, please call 888-621.

1185
01:12:19,374 --> 01:12:21,714
I assume you don't have a Coinbase account, right?

1186
01:12:22,154 --> 01:12:23,894
I haven't had a Coinbase account in like eight years.

1187
01:12:24,894 --> 01:12:27,694
Freaks, use Strike instead of Coinbase.

1188
01:12:27,694 --> 01:12:33,994
I think people don't realize it's a fully functioning Bitcoin super app.

1189
01:12:34,374 --> 01:12:36,114
The limits are incredibly high.

1190
01:12:36,234 --> 01:12:37,534
You can borrow against your Bitcoin.

1191
01:12:37,694 --> 01:12:38,674
You can buy, sell Bitcoin.

1192
01:12:39,174 --> 01:12:40,854
They're about to release a line of credit.

1193
01:12:43,734 --> 01:12:45,974
Self-custody is incredibly easy with it.

1194
01:12:46,054 --> 01:12:47,954
They have full-blown Lightning support.

1195
01:12:48,314 --> 01:12:53,894
So when you use KYC exchanges, obviously your ID is attached to your identity.

1196
01:12:53,894 --> 01:12:57,094
but if you use Lightning

1197
01:12:57,094 --> 01:12:59,994
then you have a level of detachment

1198
01:12:59,994 --> 01:13:01,614
from that connection

1199
01:13:01,614 --> 01:13:04,754
and your actual future and past Bitcoin usage

1200
01:13:04,754 --> 01:13:06,314
which I think is incredibly important

1201
01:13:06,314 --> 01:13:09,774
I love using Strike, it's fucking awesome

1202
01:13:09,774 --> 01:13:11,734
it's the only app I use at this point

1203
01:13:11,734 --> 01:13:15,034
and if you're a new user you can sign up by using code RHR

1204
01:13:15,034 --> 01:13:19,274
get $500 off trading fees

1205
01:13:19,274 --> 01:13:21,314
first $500 of trading fees

1206
01:13:21,314 --> 01:13:23,734
covered by code RHR

1207
01:13:23,734 --> 01:13:28,074
I think we have to say this episode is sponsored by Strike.

1208
01:13:30,574 --> 01:13:32,394
And we're the largest investor in Strike.

1209
01:13:33,194 --> 01:13:35,054
Yes, that is true. Disclosure.

1210
01:13:36,174 --> 01:13:37,054
That's it for the list.

1211
01:13:37,134 --> 01:13:39,694
We've got a couple other Bitcoin things that I wanted to bring up.

1212
01:13:40,274 --> 01:13:42,514
Oh my gosh. I'm sorry if you guys can hear that.

1213
01:13:43,934 --> 01:13:46,074
He's really a happy kid. He never cries.

1214
01:13:46,214 --> 01:13:47,154
I don't know what's going on with him.

1215
01:13:47,154 --> 01:13:48,994
yeah

1216
01:13:48,994 --> 01:13:52,294
um

1217
01:13:52,294 --> 01:13:54,794
two bitcoin updates

1218
01:13:54,794 --> 01:13:56,614
this week at the

1219
01:13:56,614 --> 01:13:58,674
maybe not the protocol level

1220
01:13:58,674 --> 01:14:00,954
one's the app layer I'm not sure if you saw

1221
01:14:00,954 --> 01:14:02,374
Robin Linus come out with

1222
01:14:02,374 --> 01:14:02,794
uh

1223
01:14:02,794 --> 01:14:05,974
the

1224
01:14:05,974 --> 01:14:08,054
was it Bino hash

1225
01:14:08,054 --> 01:14:10,774
which is a new way to use

1226
01:14:10,774 --> 01:14:12,514
bitcoin script for bitbm

1227
01:14:12,514 --> 01:14:13,094
specifically

1228
01:14:13,094 --> 01:14:16,514
apparently creating covenant like

1229
01:14:16,514 --> 01:14:20,414
capabilities without a software protocol upgrade.

1230
01:14:21,374 --> 01:14:24,494
Theoretical right now. Can you guys hear this?

1231
01:14:25,434 --> 01:14:28,354
Yes. It's beautiful. It's wonderful.

1232
01:14:29,514 --> 01:14:30,214
You're good.

1233
01:14:35,914 --> 01:14:36,554
Yeah.

1234
01:14:38,694 --> 01:14:40,374
So I thought that was cool.

1235
01:14:42,254 --> 01:14:44,754
Still early days, largely theoretical, but

1236
01:14:44,754 --> 01:15:01,594
But again, one thing I've been saying for many years, particularly as it pertains to people proposing soft forks is like, hey, for covenants and things like that, it's like, let's explore the design landscape that we have at our fingertips right now.

1237
01:15:01,594 --> 01:15:03,354
Robin Linus is pushing the edge there.

1238
01:15:04,494 --> 01:15:09,534
And he's found a way to do sort of narrow covenants, at least theoretically.

1239
01:15:09,674 --> 01:15:10,634
I think they're going to test it out.

1240
01:15:10,634 --> 01:15:16,434
And then another thing, I'm not sure if you saw this, but Chris Stewart flagged it on X yesterday.

1241
01:15:16,694 --> 01:15:26,874
WhiteBit, which I believe is a British exchange, just produced the first block on the Bitcoin network that is compatible with Bit45, also known as the Great Consensus Cleanup.

1242
01:15:28,154 --> 01:15:36,274
So block 937403 was the first Bitcoin block mines that signals Bit54.

1243
01:15:37,534 --> 01:15:39,934
And you said 45, it's 54.

1244
01:15:40,634 --> 01:15:44,054
54. A little dyslexia there. Sorry, guys.

1245
01:15:44,514 --> 01:15:46,094
You said Whitebit. Isn't it Whitepool?

1246
01:15:47,394 --> 01:15:48,194
I think it was Whitebit.

1247
01:15:49,594 --> 01:15:51,174
I don't know. It was a pool I've never heard of.

1248
01:15:53,954 --> 01:15:55,454
Oh, Whitepool was the minor.

1249
01:15:56,854 --> 01:15:57,574
Whitepool, yes.

1250
01:16:01,274 --> 01:16:02,454
Have you ever heard of that pool?

1251
01:16:02,454 --> 01:16:07,014
I guess Whitebit is an exchange, I guess, that runs a pool, too.

1252
01:16:07,014 --> 01:16:10,754
He tagged WipeIt later in that thread.

1253
01:16:13,334 --> 01:16:14,934
A great consensus cleanup.

1254
01:16:15,574 --> 01:16:16,174
What does that do?

1255
01:16:16,234 --> 01:16:16,774
BIP54.

1256
01:16:19,934 --> 01:16:22,754
I mean, I don't think that's getting consensus anytime soon.

1257
01:16:23,494 --> 01:16:26,494
I mean, it fixes the time warp bug, right?

1258
01:16:27,314 --> 01:16:29,774
There's some consensus bugs that need to be cleaned up.

1259
01:16:29,874 --> 01:16:30,754
A bunch of other things.

1260
01:16:30,854 --> 01:16:31,794
It's like a package.

1261
01:16:32,014 --> 01:16:33,254
It's a package deal.

1262
01:16:33,254 --> 01:16:45,254
The other thing that's on the list that you skipped, cartel war in Mexico.

1263
01:16:45,254 --> 01:16:46,254
Oh.

1264
01:16:46,254 --> 01:16:48,254
The freaks have been paying attention.

1265
01:16:48,254 --> 01:16:54,254
This is something I've had my eye on for a bit now.

1266
01:16:54,254 --> 01:17:01,254
I really do think it's the perfect additional war for the military industrial complex.

1267
01:17:01,254 --> 01:17:06,194
They need a war that MAGA supports, and it lines up with the deportation agenda as well.

1268
01:17:07,894 --> 01:17:15,834
So, I mean, because MAGA doesn't support Ukraine, doesn't support Israel, kind of like lukewarm on Iran.

1269
01:17:16,174 --> 01:17:19,774
It's been more anti-war than usual lately, which is great to see.

1270
01:17:20,774 --> 01:17:23,994
But I think this is one that a lot of MAGA people could get behind.

1271
01:17:24,994 --> 01:17:31,114
And so some cartel leader that I'd never heard of got assassinated.

1272
01:17:31,254 --> 01:17:38,474
but had you ever heard of him before i've heard of the sinaloa cartel i've never heard of their

1273
01:17:38,474 --> 01:17:45,814
patriot but he got he got killed by mexican special forces in partnership with the u.s

1274
01:17:45,814 --> 01:17:50,434
government the u.s government gave him uh gave them a bunch of intel on his whereabouts

1275
01:17:50,434 --> 01:17:53,574
and then immediately following that the

1276
01:17:53,574 --> 01:17:57,014
I don't know.

1277
01:17:58,134 --> 01:18:02,714
Mexico is always like one day away from turning into Afghanistan, it feels like.

1278
01:18:03,214 --> 01:18:08,334
And the cartels are always, they always shy away from the tourist hotspots

1279
01:18:08,334 --> 01:18:10,174
because that's where a lot of the money comes in from.

1280
01:18:10,554 --> 01:18:13,054
And they did not shy away from the tourist hotspots.

1281
01:18:13,374 --> 01:18:14,594
Airports were closed.

1282
01:18:14,894 --> 01:18:16,074
Costco's were getting burned.

1283
01:18:16,294 --> 01:18:17,454
I mean, I saw the hilarious memes.

1284
01:18:17,454 --> 01:18:20,514
Now the Kirkland special forces are going in.

1285
01:18:20,654 --> 01:18:22,794
It was like CIA guys with Kirkland branding.

1286
01:18:23,574 --> 01:18:27,134
But it's just something to keep an eye on.

1287
01:18:27,374 --> 01:18:31,634
I posted the polymarket of US strikes on Mexican soil,

1288
01:18:31,754 --> 01:18:33,354
which I think is a decent one to follow.

1289
01:18:33,674 --> 01:18:36,454
Because if there's any kind of real US engagement,

1290
01:18:37,154 --> 01:18:39,314
there probably will be at least a few airstrikes

1291
01:18:39,314 --> 01:18:40,454
and drone strikes and whatnot.

1292
01:18:40,954 --> 01:18:44,494
So it kind of covers that without having...

1293
01:18:44,494 --> 01:18:46,254
The problem with polymarket is you have a bunch

1294
01:18:46,254 --> 01:18:48,894
of different technicalities where you can lose markets.

1295
01:18:49,614 --> 01:18:51,234
And that one's a little bit more straightforward.

1296
01:18:51,414 --> 01:18:53,174
It's like, okay, if there is any kind of

1297
01:18:53,574 --> 01:18:57,334
extended engagement, there will probably be airstrikes.

1298
01:18:58,514 --> 01:19:00,874
So Polymarket right now is rating that at about,

1299
01:19:01,154 --> 01:19:02,734
you just pulled it up, Logan.

1300
01:19:02,814 --> 01:19:04,514
What did it say, like 26% or something?

1301
01:19:05,114 --> 01:19:07,534
6%. 27 by December 31st.

1302
01:19:07,534 --> 01:19:09,074
6% by March 31st.

1303
01:19:09,754 --> 01:19:12,694
I don't know, but I like the December 31st one

1304
01:19:12,694 --> 01:19:14,994
because, I mean, lower your time preference,

1305
01:19:15,114 --> 01:19:17,114
just a little tiny bit by the end of the year.

1306
01:19:18,014 --> 01:19:21,234
But still, likelihood is that it doesn't happen

1307
01:19:21,234 --> 01:19:23,074
according to Polymarket.

1308
01:19:23,574 --> 01:19:25,254
according to people betting on Polymarket

1309
01:19:25,254 --> 01:19:27,514
and insiders betting on Polymarket.

1310
01:19:27,814 --> 01:19:28,834
But it's something to keep an eye on.

1311
01:19:28,874 --> 01:19:30,314
It's a perfect example, by the way,

1312
01:19:30,414 --> 01:19:33,774
of the four-hour news cycle

1313
01:19:33,774 --> 01:19:36,374
because for 24 hours,

1314
01:19:36,474 --> 01:19:37,274
it's like the end of the world

1315
01:19:37,274 --> 01:19:38,114
that's happening in Mexico.

1316
01:19:38,994 --> 01:19:40,494
And now by the time RHR happens,

1317
01:19:40,634 --> 01:19:42,114
it's like, oh, do you remember that thing

1318
01:19:42,114 --> 01:19:44,234
that happened two days ago or three days ago?

1319
01:19:45,194 --> 01:19:45,334
Yeah.

1320
01:19:47,594 --> 01:19:49,134
God bless my wife, so innocent.

1321
01:19:49,134 --> 01:19:50,614
two days after

1322
01:19:50,614 --> 01:19:53,814
the cartel started

1323
01:19:53,814 --> 01:19:55,534
lighting cars on fire.

1324
01:19:57,054 --> 01:19:57,554
She was like,

1325
01:19:57,654 --> 01:19:59,534
I didn't know what was happening in Mexico.

1326
01:19:59,694 --> 01:20:00,914
Did you see that? I was like, yeah.

1327
01:20:01,414 --> 01:20:02,494
Don't worry, you missed it.

1328
01:20:03,354 --> 01:20:04,914
Go back to bed. I'll protect you.

1329
01:20:06,914 --> 01:20:07,554
Everything's okay.

1330
01:20:08,294 --> 01:20:09,874
Breaking news, Logan, pull it up.

1331
01:20:09,874 --> 01:20:11,754
Jack Dorsey just announced

1332
01:20:11,754 --> 01:20:13,654
that Block is cutting

1333
01:20:13,654 --> 01:20:14,814
40% of their workforce.

1334
01:20:15,954 --> 01:20:16,614
Holy shit.

1335
01:20:16,614 --> 01:20:24,634
yeah that's like 4 000 people yeah going from around 10 000 to just under 6 000

1336
01:20:24,634 --> 01:20:35,034
looks like people are getting um very uh handsome uh what do you call it severance packages severance

1337
01:20:35,034 --> 01:20:43,634
packages but uh i think the meat of the story is in the middle um where jack explains that uh

1338
01:20:43,634 --> 01:20:45,354
They're not making the decision because we're in trouble.

1339
01:20:45,594 --> 01:20:46,354
Our business is strong.

1340
01:20:46,474 --> 01:20:47,594
Gross profit continues to grow.

1341
01:20:47,694 --> 01:20:51,554
We continue to serve more and more customers and profitability is improving, but something has changed.

1342
01:20:51,774 --> 01:21:01,874
We're already seeing that the intelligence tools we're creating and using paired with smaller and flatter teams are enabling a new way of working, which fundamentally changes what it means to build and run a company.

1343
01:21:02,114 --> 01:21:03,314
And that's accelerating rapidly.

1344
01:21:03,994 --> 01:21:06,274
I had two options cut gradually over months or years.

1345
01:21:06,654 --> 01:21:10,574
As the shift plays out, we'll be honest about where we are and act on it now.

1346
01:21:10,574 --> 01:21:15,694
I chose the latter. Repeated rounds of cuts are destructive to morale, to focus, and to the trust

1347
01:21:15,694 --> 01:21:19,374
that customers and shareholders place in our ability to lead. I'd rather take a hard, clear

1348
01:21:19,374 --> 01:21:25,214
action now and build for the position we believe in and then manage a slow reduction of people

1349
01:21:25,214 --> 01:21:30,254
toward the same outcome. A smaller company also gives us space to grow our business the right way

1350
01:21:30,254 --> 01:21:36,894
on our own terms instead of constantly reacting to market pressure. So it looks like AI cutting jobs

1351
01:21:36,894 --> 01:21:37,434
example.

1352
01:21:39,214 --> 01:21:42,654
It's what we were just talking about. I mean, like, I think there's a combination play here,

1353
01:21:42,654 --> 01:21:48,414
right? Because AI or not, it's absolutely wild that there was 10,000 people working at that

1354
01:21:48,414 --> 01:21:56,574
company. I mean, there was reports that they had a company, the company All Hands, like they rented,

1355
01:21:57,454 --> 01:22:03,914
they had to rent a basketball arena to fit all the people in. Like they were way, the salary

1356
01:22:03,914 --> 01:22:08,554
burn rate there, the amount of people and overhead they were paying was way too high to begin with.

1357
01:22:09,494 --> 01:22:15,454
And I think this makes a lot of sense regardless, but particularly in the world we're entering with

1358
01:22:15,454 --> 01:22:21,054
AI. And it seems like the market agrees because I just looked it up and it looks like it's up

1359
01:22:21,054 --> 01:22:28,074
over 23% after hours, the stock. Now, after hours trading is a little bit more liquid,

1360
01:22:28,074 --> 01:22:34,794
a lot bit more liquid. So you see more significant moves. It'll be interesting to see

1361
01:22:34,794 --> 01:22:41,954
how it plays out tomorrow when markets open. But I mean, that's a pretty big market signal

1362
01:22:41,954 --> 01:22:47,394
that people agree with on that move. And I would just say, candidly, behind the scenes,

1363
01:22:47,534 --> 01:22:53,054
I've not talked to block people about this, but I've talked to people about the situation that

1364
01:22:53,054 --> 01:22:55,074
Block had found themselves in.

1365
01:22:55,654 --> 01:23:00,554
And I personally thought they should, you know, gut a lot of that employment.

1366
01:23:00,554 --> 01:23:02,334
Like there was way too many people there.

1367
01:23:03,494 --> 01:23:08,294
I mean, I've talked to Miles about how they're using AI to build stuff and, um,

1368
01:23:08,474 --> 01:23:10,434
it seems pretty crazy what they're able to do there.

1369
01:23:11,454 --> 01:23:11,654
Yeah.

1370
01:23:11,654 --> 01:23:14,394
I mean, I know Jack has been way ahead of it.

1371
01:23:14,394 --> 01:23:17,714
Like there was a directive early into the, like, there was a directive

1372
01:23:17,714 --> 01:23:19,934
to people in the company that everyone needed to be using

1373
01:23:19,992 --> 01:23:20,792
iTools and whatnot.

1374
01:23:22,192 --> 01:23:24,172
But yeah, there's going to be more of this, guys.

1375
01:23:25,072 --> 01:23:31,312
And your families are counting on you to not get caught flat-footed as it happens.

1376
01:23:32,112 --> 01:23:32,272
Yeah.

1377
01:23:32,792 --> 01:23:35,412
Part of the severance package, $5,000 in Bitcoin.

1378
01:23:36,452 --> 01:23:37,652
7 million sats right now.

1379
01:23:40,652 --> 01:23:42,012
I mean, it's good that he's...

1380
01:23:42,012 --> 01:23:44,692
I mean, hopefully that's not the only severance I assume he's giving...

1381
01:23:44,692 --> 01:23:45,332
No, no, no.

1382
01:23:45,372 --> 01:23:47,552
Six months of pay plus one week per year of tenure.

1383
01:23:47,952 --> 01:23:48,672
Equity vested.

1384
01:23:49,092 --> 01:23:49,512
It's around in May.

1385
01:23:49,512 --> 01:23:50,652
six months of healthcare.

1386
01:23:52,932 --> 01:23:55,412
That's a tough decision.

1387
01:23:55,752 --> 01:23:58,812
I think I agree with just ripping the bandaid off.

1388
01:24:00,012 --> 01:24:02,192
Yeah, look at what directionally,

1389
01:24:02,612 --> 01:24:05,332
and this was pre-AI hype and stuff,

1390
01:24:05,332 --> 01:24:09,092
like Elon coming into X and firing 90% of staff.

1391
01:24:10,432 --> 01:24:12,852
That was more correct than not correct.

1392
01:24:13,272 --> 01:24:14,852
I think there could actually probably be an argument

1393
01:24:14,852 --> 01:24:16,972
that 40% probably isn't even enough

1394
01:24:16,972 --> 01:24:18,532
and he's going to have to go harder.

1395
01:24:19,512 --> 01:24:24,012
And if you look at the trend, I think the announcement was eight months ago,

1396
01:24:24,212 --> 01:24:27,672
or a year ago or something, he fired like 10% of the staff.

1397
01:24:27,732 --> 01:24:30,192
He brought it from like 11,000 to 10,000 people.

1398
01:24:32,832 --> 01:24:36,632
And obviously that wasn't enough to really move the needle.

1399
01:24:37,832 --> 01:24:39,512
So maybe there'll be another announcement.

1400
01:24:40,432 --> 01:24:45,372
I think some of these companies will, these announcements will be over time

1401
01:24:45,372 --> 01:24:59,608
as they realize they didn cut hard enough And I think it probably just way cleaner from a corporate level And a just like like it hard like if you an employee and it like sitting

1402
01:24:59,608 --> 01:25:04,208
over your head, and you don't know if you're going to get cut, it's really bad for employee morale,

1403
01:25:04,508 --> 01:25:11,028
needless to say. So just, just ripping off the bandaid and just doing it. And then having everyone

1404
01:25:11,028 --> 01:25:14,588
have a solid foundation to move forward and be like, I'm not going to lose my job in the next

1405
01:25:14,588 --> 01:25:16,448
few years I think is incredibly important.

1406
01:25:16,968 --> 01:25:18,608
So I definitely lean

1407
01:25:18,608 --> 01:25:20,868
closer to if anything

1408
01:25:20,868 --> 01:25:22,588
overcut, you can always rehire.

1409
01:25:24,268 --> 01:25:24,708
Yeah.

1410
01:25:25,868 --> 01:25:26,728
Brave new world.

1411
01:25:27,108 --> 01:25:28,688
Brave new world. We said we're going to keep it a tight

1412
01:25:28,688 --> 01:25:30,308
hour. Logan, where are we?

1413
01:25:38,488 --> 01:25:40,388
We're not at a tight hour yet.

1414
01:25:41,648 --> 01:25:42,488
Yeah, Logan,

1415
01:25:42,488 --> 01:25:46,628
we're not at a tight 100 minute hour yet

1416
01:25:46,628 --> 01:25:48,748
we're only at an 80 minute hour

1417
01:25:48,748 --> 01:25:49,828
okay

1418
01:25:49,828 --> 01:25:52,268
when I said we needed to keep it a tight hour

1419
01:25:52,268 --> 01:25:53,868
because I'm still on this family trip

1420
01:25:53,868 --> 01:25:56,528
Logan said

1421
01:25:56,528 --> 01:25:58,608
every time we say that it's 100 minutes

1422
01:25:58,608 --> 01:25:59,828
so 80 minutes is a win

1423
01:25:59,828 --> 01:26:00,948
let's wrap it here

1424
01:26:00,948 --> 01:26:02,968
that's a good tight 80 minute hour right there

1425
01:26:02,968 --> 01:26:04,608
I like it, I think there's a lot of signal

1426
01:26:04,608 --> 01:26:08,208
you go enjoy a lot of time with your family

1427
01:26:08,208 --> 01:26:10,068
we will be back next week

1428
01:26:10,068 --> 01:26:11,248
for episode 399

1429
01:26:11,248 --> 01:26:15,948
Freaks, appreciate you all. Stay on the stack sides.

1430
01:26:16,828 --> 01:26:17,428
Peace and love.