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If you talk about a Fed just gone nuts, all the central banks going nuts.
So it's all acting like safe haven.
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If you're not paying attention, you probably should be.
What's up, freaks?
come back to rabbit hole recap here on a beautiful beautiful thursday afternoon 2 15 eastern
15 minutes late to this one but that was my fault this time i don't think it's that bad i don't
think that's that we've been later before yeah i'm freaks like if we announce we announce the
time the day before or sometimes day of oh you should always add at least 15 minutes
it's been pretty consistent
I can't if I add 15 minutes
to the time then we'll be 30 minutes
late so we have to
give you a time and then we're
rushing to make it
you feel
in the holiday spirit yet
yeah did you see what I
named the episode
a Christmas miracle
I just saw it
just read it manifest
I don't know what the Christmas miracle is going to be,
but it'd be nice to have one.
Tune in.
Okay, now I'm going to tweet this with some clickbait.
Let's see what the...
Tune in.
Some people have their Christmas show this week,
but since we're crazy people,
we're going to have a Christmas show next week.
So I couldn't call this episode Merry Christmas,
so instead it's called A Christmas Miracle.
It's a two-parter Christmas special.
before.
I almost called it Merry Christmas Part 1.
But I hate having multiple parts.
Okay, tune in.
We're explaining why Bitcoin's going to hit $444,444
by Christmas.
Okay, guys, here's what's going to happen.
Elon Musk is going to start mining Bitcoin
and it's going to the...
He's going to mine Bitcoin on the moon.
We were talking about this.
I was talking about this last night with somebody off the record.
This whole mining in space and AI data centers in space,
wasn't there a conversation in Bitcoin a while ago
where we really dove into the physics?
I forget if it was Drew Bonsol or a couple others.
And basically the conclusion was that you can't dissipate heat from the chip,
so it's almost impossible to mine in space.
And now we have this whole, we're going to put AI data centers.
I didn't hear that.
Isn't it cold as hell in the vacuum of space?
there's nothing for the yeah but the thing is the space there's no atmosphere
what are you saying i think logan's logan's trying to tell us something why don't you speak
up logan for the heat to transfer to am i really quiet yeah you're very quiet why
i don't know all right bye i think he was agreeing with me though i'm just gonna assume
that he was agreeing with me i do i mean i can hear you you're just you're just very quiet
any freaks uh in in the in the live chat on nostr or youtube if you're physics experts
i remember i called because there's it's you can't dissipate the heat you can't move it it's
very cold obviously but um you can't move the heat off the chips and so they would just okay
i'm asking i'm asking maple okay i think you can hear me now i can hear you uh we can hear you
because space is a vacuum, objects cannot lose heat through conduction,
direct contact with a cold substance, or convection, air or water carrying heat away.
But they can cool through radiative emission.
I don't know. Maybe that's just AI slot.
Is that what you were going to say, Luke?
Radiative emission is much slower.
Yeah.
So is it viable or not?
use cryogenic cooling advanced instruments like the james webb space telescope use multi-layer
sun shields and cryo coolers to reach temperatures as low as seven kelvin for precise observations
kelvin what an interesting temperature scale
was it i mean i is the where kelvin starts or something i mean the crazy thing for me is i mean
i think you could probably figure out the cooling thing the the the power aspect i can see being a
massive advantage um but like what you just like never repair them no no no it's all ai robots that
go up there and they can i mean it all just sounds very expensive if the goal is to keep
costs down as low as possible it all sounds very expensive yeah um no but what else the roof also
said that like like uh aliens were going to use coins and yeah they're going to must coin mars
the martians will use must coin because uh yeah i don't think that's true it'll be impossible for
the martians to propagate blocks because they're too far away from the center of hash
but not if the center of hash is
in orbit
I think this solution to that is like
lasers
if I recall correctly
if you could have a laser system where you could send
kilobytes of hashing data
like immediately across space
they also don't need to mine
like they could just
you gotta go back and read your
Drew Bonsall Bitcoin in Space
that was the whole thing
say this isn't fair we can't participate in the construction and propagation of blocks we are
beholden to the whims of those earthlings and what they're doing this is suppression
yeah but i mean how's that i i think they're gonna if there's like a successful mars colony
there's going to be way bigger uh conflicts than uh the bitcoin side of things yeah i think this
whole thing's stupid too because i don't think we're ever going to colonize mars nor do i think
it's worthwhile wow you don't think we're going to colonize mars no i don't know i think we i
think we probably will never is a long time and uh and to be fair i don't think elon's intention
is to colonize mars like move people there he's talked about as like a base to go to other
solar systems um that could be no elon's elon's like pitching it as like a life raft
he's like this fucking plan is done
this is
Noah's Ark last time
me and my boys are going to take essential
employees only and abandon ship
it would be easier to reverse
nuclear winter than to terraform
Mars
yeah
I don't think it's going to happen
I don't know do you think the elites are
building underground
underground facilities
for the coming
apocalyptic
shifting of the poles
I don't think it's enjoyable
to live underground
I don't think it's enjoyable to live on Mars
and I don't think it's enjoyable to live in London
so I don't know why they would do that
which one would be the worst
Mars underground or
definitely London
Oi mate
that ain't
that ain't okay london's london's proper good okay this went from uh english to australian
right i did see um one of the freaks was defending london's pub game london pubs are awesome they do
get they do get i did say that i had to admit i've never i've never been to london i do uh have
a fascination a romanticization of what english pubs are like and as you can see like i'm dressed
I'm dressed perfectly for a nice pint in an English pub right now.
You're a little bit underdressed.
I had a Christmas recital this morning.
I had to dress up, you know.
You have to look like Peaky Blinders or whatever when you go to those bars.
As always, the ride or die freaks are dwelling in our Nostra live chat.
you can access it through primal app or any other nostril app that supports it
um i see soap miners zapped 100 000 sats he said marty the bitcoin products.com
web page is fantastic amazing merry christmas freaks just be clear next week is our christmas
episode yes um well but merry christmas to you as well merry christmas to you it'll be a boxing
day episode we'll meet on boxing day and speaking of london was that the day after that's the day
after Christmas?
Yeah, do you know
what Boxing Day is for?
What it signifies?
It's when they box things.
No, it's when
all the help
would be
tending to
the needs
and the desires
of the family
that they served
on Christmas.
Obviously, it's a big holiday.
And so,
the help would not be able
to participate
themselves
in the Christmas holiday
with their families.
And so, Boxing Day
is the day after Christmas.
You give them a big box.
It's the underclass.
It's when you get
their bonus and you um you get a box full of goodies and then you get the day off you get to
go get hammered um it's a great day to celebrate the pubs the pubs are popping on on boxing day
highly recommend math 21 uh exactly 21 000 sats too no message thank you math 21 so what boxing
day is friday yeah yeah i can do friday we'll do a tight rip on friday would you rather do
christmas eve no yeah would you would you rather do christmas eve i think we doing like a three o mass so it would be yeah we not doing christmas eve um i uh i also see a comment from a freak who did not zap
which is disappointing uh asking me if polymarket removed bitcoin support trying to make some
returns before christmas um i stay humble stacks that's freaky but uh no they do accept bitcoin
They automatically convert it to USDC though.
So just be aware you can't withdraw Bitcoin.
You can only withdraw stable USD tokens.
But yeah, they accept Bitcoin on chain.
Yeah.
You down for some business on air?
Sure.
I'm going to be vulnerable right now.
Yeah.
To soap miners.
Comment.
Thank you.
Number one, Bitcoin products.com.
Go check it out.
It is fantastic.
But thinking about how we can make more useful for people,
thinking about adding a rating system,
and then we're thinking like, how do you do that
and make sure it doesn't get sibbled?
What do you think about the idea?
Rating system, only way you can sign in is via Noster,
and you need to have X amount of followers
and Y amount of posts about Bitcoin,
and then you're allowed to post a rating.
I like that.
Relatively sibble resistant.
It can still be gamed, but it's harder.
Yeah.
And I figured Noster obviously has a very dense population of hardcore Bitcoiners.
So you get some high signal from those reviews, I think.
I like that idea.
I thought you were going to go the zap route is where you were going.
Well, we need to raise it.
100,000 sats, minimum zap.
Got to bump it up.
No, for ratings.
For ratings.
but I think that's, I don't actually think that accomplishes anything except making you money.
It doesn't really stop the civil resistance. In fact, it probably reduces the amount of
reviews you get because you really want more ratings, more good ratings, right? Like the
goal is to have as many good ratings as possible. One interesting thing that I've been thinking
about a lot lately is what a lot of people don't realize is zaps as they currently stand are not
verifiable the receiver can fake them right so as a receiver you can pretend you received zaps that
you didn't get so when you see zaps on a post or whatever you're trusting the receiver or more
specifically, you're trusting the receiver's wallet, right? So if the receiver's using Primal
wallet, Primal could fake the Zaps. If they're using Wallet of Satoshi, Wallet of Satoshi could
fake the Zaps. If they're using their own node, then they can fake the Zaps themselves.
So it's hard to do any kind of real ranking systems based on Zap activity, which is what
people's immediate thought is like, oh, like we should just rank posts by Zaps, or we should be
able to tell who's bots and who's not by zaps but like i said it's gameable now spark which
is light sparks um i guess you can call it a layer two network but it's designed to make it easier to
build lightning wallets and also transfer stable coins or usd tokens um has a negative that uh
has a negative on the privacy side that it settles,
it settles on chain on Spark
every time you do a lightning transaction.
So if someone has your Spark address,
they can see all of your transactions
that you made on lightning.
So lightning usually has pretty solid privacy guarantees,
but not if you're using a Spark enabled wallet.
So let me use a real world example.
Like if you paid a wallet a Satoshi user
and you pulled their Spark address from,
the invoice, you could then go into a Spark Explorer and view all of the
transactions they've made.
It's a, and it's kind of weird thinking about it from a Bitcoin perspective
because it's a reused address.
But if you think about it from the shit corner perspective, right?
Like Tron or Ethereum or Solana, that's exactly how those networks work.
It's like an account based system on Bitcoin essentially.
Exactly. It's exactly how those networks work, right?
Like if someone pays you from Solana, a Solana address, you can look up their Solana address and see every transaction they've ever made.
Anyway, this is all very long winded.
One benefit of that is we could have verifiable zaps on Spark because you would be able to easily see the cryptographic proof of every transaction that was made without trusting the receiver.
But anyway, that was...
Wait, so they're making an on-chain transaction for every Spark transaction?
It's an on-chain Spark transaction.
It's a non-Spark change.
Oh, so it's like a side chain.
Yeah, that's why I said layer two.
I don't know.
You can argue about semantics.
Okay, now I get it.
Now I get it.
Does ARK have the same thing with VTXOs?
I don't fully understand how ARK works, to be honest,
even though I did a whole hour and a half episode
with Alex B on it.
I mean, if you go, I've said this in the past, if you go to the early days of us talking about lightning, like we didn't really understand lightning until we used it for months.
So like, I'm not going to like kill myself reading white papers and stuff.
I want, I'll use the, we'll use the tools and then we'll have a better understanding.
like i remember we were doing the lightning torch and i wanted to do uh i was trying to send to
dorsey and we wanted to do it the proper way with like full node to full node and like we would send
one transaction and then we couldn't send a second one and we're like what the like
why did the test transaction work but the second one didn't work it's because of lightning liquidity
right yeah but like i that's a completely foreign concept in the beginning of lightning
Like now it's second nature. Like, of course it's a liquidity game and you have to manage your
channels or whatever. And just because one payment works doesn't mean the next payment will work
because you just used up all your liquidity. Or just because you can pay in one direction doesn't
mean you can pay in the other direction, right? Yeah. So yeah, I don't know the specific.
And all this stuff, by the way, is also like a work in progress. So like originally,
spark was broadcasting every address in so i think by no matter what you're trusting the spark
operators they can see all the transactions but they were also like providing it publicly
in like a public block explorer type of setting um and now they're giving people the option to
hide from that block explorer but the spark operators still see it and i think they're
going to do like hd wallets so that you don't have a fixed address so there's all these different
things that are changing over time yeah um no i need to download um
walter satoshi it's back in the united states right they came back yeah with spark yeah um
i need to download that i need to download arcade check out the arc arc stuff yeah i
haven't played with arc yet i need to play with arc yeah um shout out to why citadel i'm an amazing
citadel in wyoming for sats why citadel.com that's y-w-y i saw this citadel vote with your feet so
this guy is selling selling his wyoming house um i assume he's accepts bitcoin
but i think the price was 680 000 it's priced in dollars not not in the coin
Wyoming could be good
looks like a cool house
but yeah that's
wycitadel.com is basically
the webpage for his house listing
go check it out
Vague stay humble stack sats
may the force be with you
21,000 sat
zap no Star Wars jokes
we're a Lord of the Rings show sir
why not
I'm kidding. I'm a big Star Wars guy myself.
Old stuff, not the new stuff.
I think the hating Christian...
You don't like the post-Disney stuff?
No. I did like Rogue One. I thought Rogue One was pretty good, but...
The other stuff, not so much.
Mike Rama, 21,112 sats, three salutes to the crew, palindrome zap.
All right, let's get into it.
But Y Citadel, by the way, says, his name is Wyoming Citadel.
Wyoming Citadel says Bitcoin's accepted.
It's good to know.
Bitcoin's accepted.
And if you go buy his house, he's going to get a good deal because we're trading at 85,620 cuck bucks.
One cuck buck is going to get you 1,168 sats.
Excuse me.
We're sitting at a $1.71 trillion market cap.
We are at block height 928,451,
which means we are approaching the next difficulty adjustment,
which is 925 blocks away.
Estimated to come on Christmas.
It was Christmas Eve last year.
Did China ban Bitcoin again?
Bitcoin mining again?
We'll get into it.
I don't have it on the list.
I just remembered.
Miners getting a Christmas gift of a downward,
if you're plugged in, this is a gift to you.
Downward difficulty adjustment of negative 1% on Christmas.
day UTC time.
We're looking at 2,606
transactions in Clark's
teeny weeny mempool.
We have a mempool about space.
We'll see there are 49,735
transactions in their mempool.
Fee is getting
pretty expensive. Two sats per v-byte.
If you want to get into the next block, you better
pay up.
Remember the day of 141
sat per v-byte high priority transaction?
No, it's
hard to remember it feels like so long ago um did china uh ban bitcoin mining there are reports
out of the zhinjiang province block space media reported on earlier this week with a few sources
one of which i do trust kevin jung who's at nakamoto formerly at foundry he sort of confirmed
it's happening apparently in zhinjiang um they're uh putting a moratorium on mining they want to do
some inspection.
I think there's an inspection period
where they have to unplug
and BlockSpace was reporting
that anywhere between 400,000
to 500,000 ASICs
will be unplugged over there
as part of this inspection period.
It seems like many of the miners
there are convinced
they're going to have to move.
For a power draw perspective,
I think the estimate was
1.63 gigawatts worth of power
that the miners are taking up.
That's how much
those many miners take up. So it's a considerable amount, estimated to be about 10% in network
hash rate. It is believed that around 14% of overall network hash rate is still within China's
borders, even post 2021 mining ban. But at the time, the 2021 ban was estimated that there was
anywhere between 40 and 60% of network hash rate. And so I did a little breakdown of this earlier
this week. Different dynamics
at play, if this is true.
I mean, this will be...
If we have this negative difficulty
adjustment on Christmas, that'll be
five out of the last six
difficulty retargets have been...
or difficulty adjustments have been downward
adjustments, which is a pretty
long
streak of downward difficulty adjustments.
Mining, that's barring.
It's here. Ari,
are you ready? I can hear
Ari cracking his knuckles right now, getting ready to write some tweets about the mining
death spiral.
Ari Paul, ladies and gentlemen, he'll be back with the mining death spiral fund.
But if this ban is true, again, compared to 2021, less disruptive to the network.
And I think the exodus dynamics will be different because obviously in 2021, there was a ton
of excess.
electricity capacity here in the united states has a stance today in 2025 due to the ai arms race
uh there's not as much rack space availability for miners here in the united states and so
that hash rate does move i don't think the u.s will benefit as much as it did in 2021
keep you posted though
nice how many times can they ban bitcoin mining i think this is the third time
to at least three.
If you have looser requirements,
it's been more than that.
Yeah.
There was a couple of years there
where it was like twice a year it was announced.
Yeah.
Yeah, there are some people saying that
they're doing it because
Bitcoin mining is taking up way too much energy
in China and it's just completely absurd.
I think China, like in the last year,
has added like a terawatt of electricity capacity.
They add way more power than us.
So they're like kicking our fucking ass in that regard.
The real reason if they are banning Bitcoin mining
is because they don like that it enables capital control evasion which is what Bitcoin does You can mine Bitcoin and then do whatever you want with it When I think of Bitcoin mining in China it like I always think of Jeff Goldblum from Jurassic Park
You know where I'm going with it?
Life finds a way.
Life finds a way, yeah.
Yeah.
Life does find a way.
Miners find a way.
All right.
On to the list.
Free Samurai, first on the list.
billandkeone.org.
Keone is set to report to prison tomorrow morning.
And the petition currently has 8,352 signatures,
higher than it was last week when we checked on it,
but not high enough.
We need to pump those numbers.
Keone, again, scheduled to report tomorrow morning.
Bill, as of right now,
I think it was just scheduled to report January 3rd.
And I think since last week, it was this week that Trump commented on it, right?
Yeah, Monday night.
Great to see.
Yeah.
And shout out to the Decrypt reporter who was in the press pit
and used his very short allotted time to ask a question to focus on that question.
Shout out to him.
silent here. Actually, not silent.
He was very vocal.
He's quite loud.
I'm cautiously optimistic
here. It seems like
there's really strong support and really
strong momentum. Shout out to all the freaks who've shared
this with friends and family who signed it themselves.
It's good to see. I saw
Ross Ulbricht came out in support.
Senator Lummis
has been very loud about it.
uh rep warren davidson came out in support good to see yeah it's great to see i'm cautiously
optimistic too who knows i think at this point less than 24 hours um from when bill is or excuse
me when kioni is supposed to report uh he may definitely be reporting unless there's some
midnight did you see the poly market it's at 53 pulled up logan by 2027 yeah so it's one year
right yeah i'm freaks if you really if you want to see bill and key on free the play here is is to
vote no on that poly market you got to ham the no button so that trump has can bet yes and do the
part in that's that's how that's how you you financially incentivize the reality you want to
see vote no vote no on polymarket go do it now go do it now um talked to karen earlier this week too
and i seems to be in good spirits it was cool it was nice to see him uh take the day off yesterday
spend time with his family.
It looks like they had a wonderful early Christmas dinner.
But I think one of the things that will be imperative,
not only for us, but everybody else listening,
is if they do report to prison and we have to wait
a certain amount of time for a pardon,
we can't just stop the campaign.
Obviously, we've been talking about it.
No, we got to keep going.
We got to keep going.
Wait, can you pull up that polymarket again?
what a timeline we live in
this is just a pardon poly market
of like all the names
can you scroll down how many people
are on the list
why does Matt Gaetz need a pardon
48%
Elon
wasn't he doing
got corruption charges against him or something
wasn't he being censored by the house
or something like that
himself is at 12%
Trump pardoning himself
is at 12%
who's dr kwan is that it's uh to tara luna but see his supporters know what's up they're voting no
to incentivize the outcome they want to see they even get sentenced in the united states i thought
it was in south korea it's supposedly my understanding it's like half half like
he's doing half his time in america and half his time in south korea yeah what is sbf at
21%.
Pretty crazy.
Doquan famously stuck a treasure up his butt.
Trying to evade.
He let his memes be dreams.
Yeah.
I think that was verified.
Yeah, I don't know if that was real at all.
I mean, hopefully it wasn't real.
There's a lot better ways to try and smuggle Bitcoin.
The whole point of Bitcoin is that you don't have
stick something up your butt yeah you can just write some words be aware of freaks yeah um but
if you want to the open dime the open dime was made specifically for for butt stuffing i i see uh
uh senior gringo poppy 2059 and youtube asking sub dorks when 200k i was actually just talking
to gigi about this today um i think it was like 200k by conference it was 2021 i'm pretty sure
It was like almost five years ago.
It was spring.
I think it was spring 2021.
God, I mean.
Oh, yeah.
It was a size B.
We were all going to meet in Miami.
It was like the first conference post COVID.
Wall Street bets was popping off.
We were printing trillions of dollars.
Corn was screaming.
You think we're ever going to hit 200K?
Maybe we're in purgatory.
Maybe this is our life.
We just sit here and we talk like, yeah, it's going to happen.
It's going to happen.
Maybe we already died and we're just sitting in purgatory.
It feels so far away now.
We need a Christmas miracle.
$444,444 by Christmas.
It's going to happen.
Okay.
Everybody go smash by.
Kidding.
Don't fret, freaks.
Don't fret.
stay humble stack sats
uh
vague with the
i mean vague it's his second one so he's
adding to his 21 000 total read
10 000 sats watch andor marty by far
the best disney star wars stuff
we'll take a look uh why
is that new
i don't know 21 000
thanks boys why citadel
uh 21 000 thanks for the shout out
thanks for the sats brother
Ben Justman
22,222
SATs 2s across the board
Poundrum
Zap
Came for the clickbait title
Staying for the super cycle
Ben
You just heard
Oh Ben
Purgatory
I mean that means
Ben saw
The title on
On X
Not on Noster
Somebody with
Somebody with a Noster only show
Coming to us
Via
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Very interesting
Very
Very interesting
okay moving on the list jade vulnerability was announced this week pretty serious uh
everybody is being advised to upgrade their jade uh immediately this seems pretty bad
yeah so should we read through it i mean it's a long post basically i specifically uh my my read
on the situation is there's three ways to use Jade.
First of all, this applies to both the original Jade and the Jade Plus.
There's three ways to use Jade.
You can use it via USB, via Bluetooth or via QR code.
This is specifically applies if you use Bluetooth or USB cable,
which I think is what the majority of people use it with on,
especially for the first Jade, because the first Jade has troubles
using QR codes.
It's like technically works, but between the screen and the camera,
it's like kind of a pain in the ass.
And I think specifically, you'd have to use a malicious app.
So if we assume Blockstream wasn't attacking people,
then it means you weren't using the official Blockstream green app.
And my read of the situation is that in a worst case scenario,
they could actually extract your seed.
An attacker could remotely extract your seed.
basically like worst case scenario when it comes to hardware wallets through this attack vector.
It was responsibly disclosed to them.
They patched it.
It's been patched for a few updates now.
And then this is them publicly mentioning it and saying, if you haven't updated yet, update.
I know everyone's a little bit religious about their hardware wallets.
I had a relatively benign announcement on Nostar saying,
seems like a pretty bad vulnerability for Jade.
So people would update their fucking wallets.
Some people were like, no, you're blowing it out of proportion, blah, blah, blah.
I just want to be clear here.
Adam back is all over Twitter in all caps telling people to update their app.
So take it from the man himself.
Consider taking it seriously.
But if you haven't gotten rugged yet, you're probably good.
I don't think they know any.
I don't think they have any cases
where they've been able to show that
it's actually been used
I don't I see BTC
Wrestle saying doesn't require physical access
I don't think so I think it required a malicious app
yeah it says jade devices
running firmware versions
1.0.24
to 1.0.36
can be crashed by a malformed
RPC request
leading to a device
by the app
yeah
Yeah, so it's not physical address.
You just send an RPC request.
Exploitation analysis, probably important to mention.
We wish to emphasize that we are not aware of this vulnerability being exploited in any malware in the wild.
However, as with any other security-sensitive software, we expect that bad actors monitor our releases,
looking for vulnerabilities and attempting to develop exploits against older software versions.
so no evidence of this being exploited in the wild
but it is a pretty bad one if you have a jade
specifically you have a jade that is
that has a private key on it that's securing
a material amount of bitcoin for you make sure you update that firmware
ASAP
next
go ahead
because of this I realized that the
Jade Plus doesn't have a secure element.
I'm surprised that...
I thought they added one.
I mean, this is like...
They didn't.
This is a perfect example of why secure elements
should be in hardware wallets.
I guess the number one thing they're supposed to protect against
is extracting a private key remotely.
Yeah.
Anyway, update.
update if you if you haven't updated already yeah um be aware freaks also be aware if you're a strike
user in california has been wondering when am i going to get access to these loans everybody's
talking about uh well the wait is over strike massive launches consumer loans in california
what is it the fifth largest economy in the world uh i think it's higher than that
third let me ask maple california's population is 40 million people
how big some population's gdp for new economy
uh 4.1 trillion in 2024 making it the largest state economy in the u.s and the fourth or fifth
largest economy globally trailing only the united states china germany and sometimes india depending
on how india's feeling i guess that was pretty good i said fifth fourth or fifth i'll take it
that's good anyway uh this this this uh if you're in california you've been looking for a strike loan
please borrow responsibly uh it should be a very small percent of your stack
um but yep it's live now you can just update your app and a couple clicks have dollars in
your bank account pretty sweet pretty sweet californians rejoice also i realized um
last week we didn't mention that
Jack went public
with Tether on XXI last week.
So
huge shout out to him for that.
It's kind of crazy seeing
he's not the first one
and he's not the last to seeing a buddy
on ringing the bell.
It's like
what timeline do we live in?
Right. And I have somebody here saying
can we get some Marty optimism going on?
Things are feeling pretty down.
Matt A Miller Don worry brother here some optimism Anyway the price is down We crabbing We consolidating We went up 8x between November 2022 and July of this year
Guess what?
We're cooling off a little bit, but things are still happening in the background.
XSI went public.
People are getting strike loans in California.
We're staying on top of vulnerabilities and hardware wallets.
People are still working.
We're still working to make this a thing.
It is a thing.
We're trying to make it a bigger thing.
the thing and progress is being made don't uh don't get who's who's who's saying you're not
optimistic enough matt a miller uh did he say it in the comments uh and you know he just said
oh i see but you see his next comment after that need marty to shoot a snot rocket for the smiles
you see he asked for optimism and like you just want me to be a clown is that what you want you
You know what I mean?
Serious analysis.
You want me to snot rocket in front of you?
It's disgusting.
I'm offended.
I'm kidding, Matt.
I don't have snotty bent.
Snotty bent's in the cage this week, I think,
and my sinuses are feeling good.
The trolls are out in full force.
Merry Christmas, freaks.
Love you all.
You got the ripple hat on.
It's not a ripple hat.
and also i see like do you see the comment above that too do you think that's a troll or do you
think he actually believes that that's got to be a troll uh level nine nine slacker he's a long
time freak yeah i think he knows better okay i think he knows better um moving along
fold has become the first public bitcoin financial services company to operate
nationwide through BitGo's federally
chartered trust framework.
I guess there's two stories here. Number one,
the first public Bitcoin
financial services company to do this and
two, that BitGo has a federally
chartered trust framework. I think this
was one of the bigger stories of the week
is the OCC coming out and granting
these federal
chartered trusts to
BitGo and was it Anchorage?
Who else got it? I don't know.
were there multiple there were multiple there was like two or three so they're like basically a bank
right yeah essentially yeah biggo has like a banking charter federally so you don't have to
go state by state yeah yeah and so now it's also available in new york which has like been uh
the white whale of every Bitcoin company because of the bit license.
And there was another, I don't know if you have it on the list,
but the federal reserve came out and rescinded a letter of recommendation that
they wrote in 2023, basically saying, Hey,
we don't want the banks trying to incorporate Bitcoin or other crypto
assets. We're playing with it. It's too risky.
They came out this week and rescinded that basically said, Hey,
we actually want you to be innovative and experimental.
So we're going to rescind that and let you play around with the,
have fun with your crypto, if you will.
Yeah. What did Trump say? Play with your Bitcoins?
Yeah. They're going to let,
they're going to let the banks play with their Bitcoins if they want to.
Point being, it seems like at least in the banking sector and its relation to
Bitcoin,
there has been a number of positive developments in terms of regulation,
regulation becoming looser in terms of what these banks are allowed to do.
which as a free market guy, I love to see.
I'm not saying go put your Bitcoin with your bank,
but I think it's a positive signal overall.
The Bitcoin's wider.
You shouldn't do that.
Yeah. Don't do that.
But there's some people that will.
Yeah. I mean, I saw some chatter that like,
like the big banks are just going to outcompete
all the Bitcoin companies on terms and product offering and stuff.
like I'm I'm fading that call say say I know you're talking about he knows who what you're
talking he went he went on a second tier podcast he went on a second tier podcast I think I forget
what it was called it was like T ABC or something T ABC yeah yeah no I mean that's one theory Ryan
came on tftc and uh and i made the case that hey these banks are they have a low cost of capital
or adding all this infrastructure it's going to be hard for native bitcoin companies that
are private to compete but i think um as he was announcing his his public bitcoin holding company
but um and we've talked about this in the past i think particularly as it pertains to
lending capital in the Bitcoin space is sort of a commodity, whether you're private or public.
Yes, the banks are definitely going to have somewhat of an advantage due to economies of scale, but...
I just don't think that like...
I prefer Bitcoin only services.
Yeah, Bank of America is not going to provide... It's going to be years, if that,
that Bank of America provides like a competitive Bitcoin product to actual Bitcoiners.
Yeah.
Like, have you been in a branch lately?
I've not.
It's like fucking insane.
You know, we'll say like Bank of America.
I don't have to go in the branch.
I haven't had my debit card.
This is probably too much information,
but I haven't seen my Bank of America debit card in like three years.
And so like I'm beholden to the debit card on my Apple Pay.
And thank God their ATMs now have NFC.
Why don't you order a new one?
I guess I didn't feel like re-entering all the information.
Wow.
Yeah.
So shout out to NFC enabled ATMs allowing me to get cash when I needed quite frequently.
All right, moving on.
We've got the Human Rights Foundation Financial Freedom Report Story of the Week coming out of bricks.
stands for Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa,
but there are other countries in the BRICS coalition.
Digital currency launch.
The BRICS monetary block has launched a working prototype
of a digital currency known as the unit.
Wow.
Great name.
Such a good name.
Backed by a basket of precious metals
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the first hundred units were issued in a pilot led by Russia.
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What a great name.
Wow.
Stay on the stack units.
It's got a masculine frame to it.
It's just like an absolute unit.
You're not going to use the unit currency.
What are you a pussy?
Oh, you don't accept units?
We're not being facetious either.
It's an incredible branding.
It's a good name.
I mean, it's a shitcoin.
This is something we've been discussing for years.
There's also something that Lionel Shriver
had in her book like a decade ago.
But this is the expected path, I think.
I think the expected path is BRICS countries are going to launch their own
commodity backed shit coined with gold being a key backing there.
And I think this is what markets are seeing as well, which is one of the reasons
why we've seen the run up in gold and silver.
And then they'll realize that that requires too much trust.
Trust will break down and Bitcoin emerges as this beautiful global distributed financial network that doesn't require any trust whatsoever between counterparties.
Because if you think all these countries are going to be able to trust each other and work together at scale, I mean, I have a colony on Mars to sell you.
They might have just, what's the phrase I'm looking for?
they um they said are tied they tied their wagon to destiny like it just by the branding alone
somebody's going to want to control the unit it's like no i'm i'm well it's being led by russia
case in point yeah you think china's going to come in and be like you know what actually
russia we're the uh we're the world's factory we've got all this energy infrastructure we're uh
stealing the IP of every country in the world.
We're actually more of a unit than you are.
So we're going to take control of the system.
Some squabbling, some intracrabile squabbling
on the horizon for the BRICS block.
I can see it.
No, but to your point.
Mandible is the Bitcoin standard.
Yes.
And why Bitcoin standard?
Because Bitcoin is a distributed peer-to-peer caches
and none of these countries can control.
A political event.
I feel like we've been way ahead on the quantum FUD.
I mean, 1031, even in January,
released a blog post about quantum
and how people shouldn't be concerned about it.
Did you see the sailor tweet about quantum?
Yeah.
Should we be reading too much into it
or was that just AI slop
and he just wasn't actually thinking
when he pressed post?
No, no, no.
Look, pull it up.
You'll find it.
Did he just like ask chat GPT,
like should i be worried about quantum and like chat gpt respond to that and then you just press
send tweet yeah or does he actually he's got a string he's a bitcoin he's effectively advocating
to freeze satoshi coin um pulled up logan we'll talk about i mean it's we went from
op return to quantum i'm i'm becoming more convinced that there is some uh
provocateurs
in the social layer
just trying to get us confused and talking about
dumb shit, Quantum being one of them.
I mean, I think this is
completely different parties.
Yeah.
Could be.
Are you finding it, Logan?
I'm looking for it.
Just search
It was like yesterday.
Do you know how to search Twitter?
He doesn't post that much.
I'm logged out on this computer now.
And of course you can't search on Twitter if you're not logged in.
Queen,
are you pulling it up?
Don't worry.
Queen,
Queen is Logan.
Number one fan.
Is Queen defending him?
Yes.
He might,
he might quit on our ass according to her.
Right before we went live today,
we asked Logan what he actually does here.
what is it what does he do here actually can you find a new twitter account so that i can search on
twitter martin can you find the tweet i'll find you're looking i'm not looking i'm being lazy you
know what accountability lead from the front i should be searching i mean it was clearly ai
generated because it had the m dash and also it was like the classic quantum won't do this it will
do the exact opposite, which is a massive LLM trope.
The Bitcoin quantum leap, quantum computing won't break Bitcoin.
It will harden it.
The network upgrades, active coins migrate, lost coins stay frozen.
Security goes up, supply comes down, Bitcoin grows stronger.
Yeah.
So did he just ask Chad GPT, like, should I be concerned about quantum and Bitcoin?
And then this was the response and he just pressed untweet.
i don't know i wasn't there i can't say because i think i think that's the generous interpretation
and the opposite of the generous interpretation is that he is using his platform to advocate for
freezing satoshi's bitcoin well let's talk which would be yeah go on no let's run through that i
mean i know we touched on it last week but like i went like and i think you i was actually thinking
of you today because i was like i need to think more like odell because the way you frame it when
you think about these attack vectors and in um not my defense like i i was like we're not in a rush
because quantum computing isn't here and then you were immediately like adversarial thinking
like what would let's say everybody thinks we need to transition to quantum when we do what are the
risks on the other side and you lay that out pretty good so let's let's hear that for the
freaks that happen already well no i mean so there's two different things right we talked
about it last week but there's there's two different things first of all um i'm not sold
that quantum's a real risk right i think there's a lot of hype there we talked about that last week
so we're we're purely in the theoretical realm right now right but the the general premise is
that it would break public key cryptography and how does it do that high level you can take a
a public key and you can reverse engineer it to get the private key. You spend
energy, you spend compute, you spend time and you're able to get the private key.
Bitcoin and modern encryption and hashing algorithms rely on you not being able to get
the opposite side, right?
You have this public information that you're able to verify things with, but you're not
actually able to sign without the private information.
Now with Bitcoin, you have two different aspects.
You have the addresses, the public addresses.
you have early the early address types that were not hashed so they didn't have an extra level of
basically protection on them and those could be potentially or theoretically brute force at rest
right you have like infinite time to do them satoshi's coins being the largest example but
basically any old addresses that are unmoved but then also when you spend from a modern address
from a SegWit address.
And that also applies to taproot addresses, by the way,
which is the most modern address.
But if you send from a SegWit address,
which is in between,
at the time it hits the mempool,
there's like a race that if, you know,
if it's a sufficiently powerful quantum computer
could then try and do it.
So I think that middle aspect,
I think it's relatively safe to assume
is basically safe because
everything at rest would be theoretically attacked way before
quantum computers are sufficiently capable of attacking on the fly.
So that's the technical argument, right? So the technical argument is we should have address types
that are even more quantum secure, quantum resistant from that kind of reverse engineering
than the modern day SegWit addresses that are hashed and so have that protection.
But then there's also the other piece of it, which is people scared that old coins will get dumped
on the market. And so then there's different proposals about freezing old coins or adding
some kind of rate limit. So only old addresses can only spend so much per block, so it would slow it
down. And it's just like, it's like this weird fetish, fetish, I don't even know how you pronounce
it about like controlling other people's money. Like this is, it's, and like an obsession with
the price of Bitcoin, which I don't pretend I'm not obsessed with. But like, if you break the
fundamental, like societal contract we have in Bitcoin of property rights, of like just unlimited
property rights, then like what is Bitcoin? Like Bitcoin is not valuable at all in that situation.
And I think it's particularly crazy because it is theoretical.
Don't read the comments, Matt. Because it's theoretical, what people are advocating,
like whether, so this is why, like, I hope that Saylor wasn't intentionally advocating for this.
And like I said, he might not be, but there are people in the space intentionally advocating for this, freezing the old coin.
You would have to do this preemptively.
Like by design, you would have to do this preemptively.
And you could call it a soft fork, but it's effectively a hard fork.
Because if anyone wants to spend the old coin, then we would have a chain split.
So maybe you can argue semantics that it's a soft fork, but effectively what you're saying is,
we are so scared of this theoretical risk that we're going to preemptively block coins from being
spent with a hard fork, which I think is just a complete non-starter. It's absolutely insane.
I don't think there's support for it in the community, but there shouldn't be. It's absolutely
ridiculous. And so let's just run through a scenario. If Satoshi woke up tomorrow and was
like, wow, Jameson Lopp and sailor or advocate, which by the
way, we're on opposite sides of the opportunity stuff, are
advocating for freezing coin, freezing my coin, I'm gonna spend
it today. Would we know if he spent it or was quantum to
quantum spend it? Like, how do you even all the OGs, quote,
unquote, OG selling right now is are they selling or is it
quantum? And like, when do you when do you make that? When do
make that distinction on on whether or not the old keys are broken versus people just actually
spending and when do you just realize you just got to sack up and if old coins are sold on the
market then we'll have some you know downturn in market dynamics for a bit until bitcoin recovers
and it'll be fine we'll just move along yeah
no i think this is very well articulated i think i mean and apparently some of the people really
pushing the quantum narrative right now.
Some of them run quantum related funds.
They all run quantum related shit.
Yeah.
Like they're all incentivized
to continue the hype cycle.
And like to point on
the theoretical aspect of it,
John Arnold included this in our piece,
in his piece on 1031.xyz.
You'll find it.
And he talked to Hunter Beast
and a couple of others.
I think Adam Back looked at it
as well.
The idea is
see radical. It is true.
Google with their willow chip and
others have created sort of
quantum states and successfully sent
bits between the
two different
in a quantum fashion.
That's rudimentary.
I said this earlier today. It's like
the stone wheel of quantum
computers. It's barely
anything to
successfully wage an attack that would brute force private keys by reverse engineering the
private keys via by using public keys you need to basically have quantum computers that not only can
enter quantum state and send information but they also have to be able to run like computation
and operating and software on it so like we're not even at the level yet like we're just sending
binary bits in a quantum fashion the way i understand it not gonna pretend to be an expert
but I have been reading on this and like,
if you want to get to a state that you can actually like crack stuff,
like you need to be able to run computation in a quantum state,
which is,
I think orders of magnitude harder than what's being done now.
And what's being done now is like barely being able to send binary between
each other.
And then on top of that,
it's like how much energy is going to be necessary to do all this.
It was going to be equivalent to the AI energy consumption that we've seen
last three years and if so like who's going to be able to acquire all that energy and are they
going to use that to focus on bitcoin specifically or attack other things well it's interesting you
mentioned ai right because i think part of it part of the recent level of fear mongering and
we talked about this last week like the quantum thing is not is not something new like this has
been discussed at length for quite some time i mean i think um peter woola in 2019
was questioned on why taproot addresses aren't hashed by default.
Why is it just, you know, bare pub key and as a result,
not as quantum resistant as Segwit or whatever.
He's like, oh, well, if quantum happens, then Bitcoin's fucked anyway.
But and I will keep reminding people of Vitalik
and his quantum Bitcoin mining scam that he had before Ethereum,
which, by the way, all the shit coins are way more exposed to this than us.
because Bitcoin by default doesn't reuse addresses or Bitcoin wallets by default usually do not reuse addresses.
But I think part of it is because of the AI hype.
Right.
So like everyone and it like goes in line with like the remember like the AI 2027 fear mongering that was happening.
Like we were going to have AGI like there's going to be super intelligence and they're going to nuke everybody by 2027,
which is crazy because it means we'd probably nuke everybody before we hit 200k which is just
just be unfathomable then we get set to hell the nuclear hell so i think part of it is that right
so like part of the the quote unquote concern is that llms will speed up quantum development which
to be quite honest has been you know pretty slow and lacked real practical uses or proof
yeah the idea isn't that what matt pines did like he's working at a ai company focused on um
aliens right covering new physics you know i think they're looking for aliens
and maybe you need some
is it breakthroughs to find maybe new quantum maybe need to be able to wormhole to the other uh
other galaxies too anyway i i think um i think there's a happy medium here where um
where we have where we self-work in or maybe we don't even need to self-work in like maybe
like i it's also above my pay grade but supposedly you might be able to do with taproot as well
but create some like extra quantum hardened address types and let people optionally use
them if they want to. It's going to cost you a lot more in fees and you have the choice if you
want to use it or not. And if you're going to sit there and be worried that other people's Bitcoin
might get stolen and then sold on the market, just sell all your Bitcoin and you're just in
the wrong network. Like don't be fucking insane. I mean, that'd be like saying that if someone gets
hacked. Like if a, if a large, if a whole, if sailor gets hacked,
we should freeze his Bitcoin because it would cause a price dump.
Like that'd be insane.
Right.
It's fucking insane. If Coinbase gets hacked, we're going to,
we're going to freeze the Bitcoin so that the Bitcoin price doesn't dump.
No, don't get, don't get hacked. If you get hacked, you fucked up.
Hey, we learned,
we learned by the good people at Slocket and Ethereum that if,
You get hacked. You just roll back the chain, make everything right.
You freeze the, uh, you three, you freeze the thief's, uh, coins that they stole.
You remember when CZ wanted to do that with Bitcoin?
Yeah. Yeah.
He sent out like a tweet, like.
You wanted to reorg like.
Yeah. For like, not that much money.
Yeah. It's like $20 million or something.
And everyone's like, no, fuck you, bro.
This is not Ethereum.
because he had
an air of confidence
too where he's like yeah we can do this
we're going to do this right
people are like no we're good
alright before we get to
software updates
let me pull up fountain
and read
the top boost
from last week's rip
just rabbit hole recap
387 the printer is coming
grr
ADIQ, 22,222 sats, twos across the board, palindrome boost.
Gonna fix your thumbnail on a rumble and you chew.
Tay be rabbit and no rabbit, you radges.
Pure does my heed in can.
Merry Christmas freaks.
That was a hard one to read.
I thought it was a different language,
and then it just says Merry Christmas freaks at the bottom, which I don't.
Anyway, thank you for your support and Merry Christmas.
Thanks, Kurt.
are you in Appalachia?
Where are you?
Speaking of reading next boost from Reed 21,000 sats proposal for new
RHR title 2025 worst cattle bike ever.
I like that.
I retweeted that one.
It's a bad cattle bike guys.
Yeah.
Next week's episode is going to be called Merry Christmas.
The week after that,
we'll call it worst cattle bike ever.
Yes.
Looking forward to 2026.
Unless there's a Christmas miracle.
between 444,444 coming uh let's see if we made our way there no we are down from where we started
um all right software updates btc pay server is out with version 2.3 starting today you can change
excuse me charge merchants of subscription fee to use your btc pay server making it sustainable for
local enthusiasts to onboard businesses to accept bitcoin while undercutting credit card fees and
preserving merchant self-custody brings in several long-awaited features making our biggest release
this year they have subscriptions server monetization plug plug-in builder 1.0 for
ratings and reviews payment requests redesign edd and drupal 11 uh 14 new languages is pretty big to
Yeah, absolutely massive.
Huge shout out to the BTC pay team.
Uncle Jim in the boardroom running a server for his local merchants you know Yeah this is something that BTC Pay operators like instant operators
The cool part about BTC Pay historically has been that you can run it, as Marty said, in an Uncle Jim mode,
where you're managing the actual node infrastructure and the instance.
And then people can basically, there's like a sign in, like a login for individual merchants.
So you can onboard merchants, but they don't actually have to run the BTC payback end.
And now, but people are basically like kind of just doing that out of the goodness of their hearts or kind of charging out of band for the services or trying to monetize in other ways.
Now it's actually, you know, first class citizen, you can charge for it, which is really cool to see.
I mean, we're seeing it with the square rollouts right now.
it's it's if you give someone i think square they're giving uh or block they're giving uh
25 if you're the first person to pay bitcoin at a square merchant so basically they're giving you
25 if you are basically you have proof that you onboarded that merchant to bitcoin um
and like it doesn't take much that people love it people just go out and and do the thing on this
note by the way i don't know if you saw uh the tax free section in oslo airport now accepts bitcoin
using btc pay server you know like the duty free shops did not see that it's pretty bad and so i
i asked rockstar who did that he doesn't even know who did that like just some local freak
presumably went to the tax-free shops and convinced them to onboard to btc pay and so
So there's probably being run,
like a random freak is probably running
that BTC pay instance for free for the,
because I doubt like Oslo tax-free duty-free shops
are like running their own BTC pay server.
Yeah.
And to be clear here,
if they're running your BTC,
if you're using a hosted instance of BTC pay,
the key is they're not taking custody of funds.
The custody is still held with the merchant.
They're just not running all that infrastructure separately.
Yeah.
Pretty cool.
Cool to see. Merchant adoption enabled by better infrastructure. We saw Square roll out their stuff earlier this year. Now you had the free and open source version of that BTC Pay server. Getting more robust.
This is what you want. You want as many options. The beauty of Bitcoin is that it's a tool that you can use in many different ways without permission. And we'll have corporate options. We'll have open source options. And people will choose how they want to use Bitcoin based on their use case, threat model, technical capability. It's beautiful.
it's cool to see next up on the list tether has released pair pass password manager that keeps
your data on your devices this was cool no servers to hack no cloud to leak just pure local security
so this is using um the whole punch tech that they basically subsidized over at tether
um they uh a couple pieces here so the the most popular or still not really that popular but the
The most popular use of Hole Punch has been Keat, which is their P2P messenger, their video and audio and text messenger that's encrypted.
Now, Keat has come a long way and it's pretty usable now, but it has some issues with, you know, the other person needs to be online.
You know, you don't have the benefits of having a server in between in terms of uptime and reliability.
But you have the opposite is true, right?
Like you don't want a server in between if you care about censorship resistance and permissionless use.
Keet has also been really slow to open source.
Now this, first of all, is already open source is my understanding, which is awesome to see.
Like I hate like the promises.
Oh, we'll open source in the future.
Like just fucking do it.
For things like this, it's incredibly important.
But second of all, it's just like a really interesting novel use case for serverless tech.
Right. Basically with password managers, you've had two different sides, right? You've had the hosted server stuff that is sacrificing security for convenience because you have a server involved that's holding all your intimate passwords, right? Like most private data that you have.
or you've had self-hosted stuff that doesn't sync between devices and you like lose a phone
or something and then you just like lose access to your bank and everything you can't order a new
debit card and it's a huge pain in the fucking ass so this is an interesting middle ground I
think it it makes a lot of sense I will say it is very early I don't go and just like upload all
your passwords immediately like enter all your passwords into this app but I think it's a cool
project. It wasn't on my radar. And now it is. I see Esme Horn zapped 33,058 sats. He says 21
great British pounds from London. Thank you guys for everything you do. Thank you, sir. Thank you
for not taking it personally. Me shitting on London in the last two weeks. And have you considered
leaving yeah why don't you save that money for a plane ticket yeah portugal's not too far away
do you portugal where would you go maybe yeah portugal's good if you're uk yeah you can still
be home close to family i've only heard good things about portugal a lot of a lot of british
expats go to Portugal. By the way, did you see, in terms of British and not leaving,
did you see Peter McCormick's change.org petition about consent?
No, it wasn't.
I think it's...
He has a webpage. I said change.org, but it's actually self-hosted.
So shout out to him for that.
Let me see. What are we looking at? Is it pinned tweet? Hopefully so.
He posted on Noster. It's called I Will Not Consent. I think it's it's I no longer consent.com.
I no longer consent.
He's entering the this is his Martin Luther King phase, British Martin Luther King phase.
Peaceful nonviolent protest in the UK.
This country doesn't work anymore. Life keeps getting more expensive. Public services keep getting worse. And we're all expected to work harder for less. Most people can feel it. But we're expected to carry on as if this is normal. It isn't. This is a calm, lawful way for ordinary people to withdraw legitimacy from a failing system and show that authority comes from us, the public, not the government.
Yeah. I mean, Peter has been radicalized throughout the years. I remember we were beating him over the head.
his journey has been great i do think oh you don't even have universal free
health care in the united states you're doing it's like nhs is a show brother
um i mean for for like i think it's a lost cause but i commend i commend him uh trying to fight the
fight he obviously cares about his hometown of bedford um and he's building businesses there
and trying to practice what he preaches.
I want to be clear.
I love Peter.
We're friends.
It has been fun to watch his transition into like, hey.
No, I've disagreed.
Throughout the years, I've disagreed.
Government is not our friends.
The government is not our friend, Peter.
We've been telling you this for years.
I'm glad to see you're opting out.
You could be friends with someone whose opinions you disagree with.
Like that is true.
You should be.
Like this is, it's insane that you're supposed to agree with everything.
Otherwise, you're enemies.
But I just want to point out here, the British speech laws are so fucked up that he was so careful when he wrote this thing.
Can you tell?
Yeah.
Like he's just like making sure, you know, I'm not calling for any harassment or violence or, you know, no breaking the law, just collective noncompliance.
Ordinary people withdraw consent calmly, lawfully together.
I feel like you have to like really walk in eggshells over there right now.
Yeah.
Parker's watching.
Parker, I see.
Oi, mate.
This is British.
I'm making fun of my accent.
Did he text you?
No, he quote tweeted the episode.
Thank you for sharing from your massive audience.
Tune in whenever Marty Ben tries to do a British accent.
And it sounds decidedly Australian and he knows it,
but can't do anything about it.
It's true.
Who is,
I see Pete Smith is shitting on our audio.
Is it my fault or is it Marty's fault?
It's probably my,
I know this mic's not like,
I need to get the shore mics that we have in the studio in Austin.
Look,
I thought I told you didn't mail me one of those.
How come you haven't done that yet?
Do you listen?
Are you insubordinate right now?
He says,
I need to put a high pass filter on my mic or is it your mic that we're
supposed to put the filter on.
Is that like a pop filter?
I know my audio quality has historically been horrible.
You sound good to me.
But it's trying to be better.
Oh, look.
High pass filters.
I have the option.
Should I click it?
Does it sound any better now?
Where do I do this?
But high pass filters for like HVAC.
I don't have an HVAC running.
Do I got a sound?
Do I sound better?
I clean up the audio on the podcast release
The Chundy Gunderson
6647 the mic is fine
21 in the primal chat
you guys sound fine
Bitter21 audio is good
Brian sounds the same fine
Sounds like PeteSmith6321
is just an audio file
We care about you
We tried
Thank you for caring
speaking of caring uh the team of coin kite cares about you being able to easily sweep the bitcoin
off your sats card and they've released in test flight that's buddy they didn't release that
i said in test flight it's not it's not coin kite who released it oh who did it's matt ramson
nashville nashville uh bdk contributor nashville local who runs our bit dubs oh that's good to say
but anyway just in time just in time for christmas if you are loading up a bunch of
stats cards uh it makes it easy to uh manage them it's not for redeeming stats cards um
the best way i know of redeeming stats cards is cove wallet on ios or nunchuck on android and ios
um the coolest part about a stats card by the way the stats cards if you're not familiar are the
they look like a gift card,
but they actually hold a private key on them.
And it's a way to gift Bitcoin physically.
It's the card version of Open Dimes.
The coolest part is that
you can just tap that on the phone without an app
and it just shows you the balance in the browser,
which is just incredibly satisfying.
It's pretty sweet.
It's pretty cool.
Where do you hold your Bitcoin?
You pull out your Sats card,
tap it on your phone.
Right here, brother.
Right here.
Look at it.
Okay.
Fuck.
I see what you're laughing at
the
next thing on the list
moving on
shout out to Matt for dropping it
sorry I assumed it was coin kite
supposedly Logan sounds the best according to Bitter21
yeah because he's got
the mic that I want
do you think Logan intentionally
fucks with our audio just so he sounds better
I wouldn't be shocked
should I say
It would be a really petty thing to do.
Should I send you the roadcaster as well?
No, I don't need that.
You're not going to be able to plug this in.
I know.
I was going to buy another one,
because I assumed that you need yours.
Moving on.
Venezuela oil blockade.
Apparently, we were supposed to be told last night
that we're going to war with Venezuela.
It didn't happen.
Instead, we got the warrior stimulus check, 1776.
uh 1,776 going to our armed forces because of the uh influx of revenue from the tariff
that was trump trump with the journalists right
i don't know i wasn't i haven't been following what journalist well like he convinced like all
the news agencies to like cover his live press conference that they thought we were going to war
And then he was like I giving I giving all the troops money Yeah I mean so Tucker was pretty convinced yesterday from what I can tell
There was clips floating around of him saying,
hey, I heard from people inside the intel community
that were preparing for war.
Venezuela, it seems like we're already somewhat in a silent war.
You actually have no opinions on the blockade?
I mean, I think the blockade were blocking the oil coming in and out of Venezuela.
I saw a stat.
Apparently, it cost $200 million a day for Venezuela to run their government, run their services, run their operations.
They have a billion in the bank.
And so this blockade is an attempt to take away the source of the revenue, which is oil.
That's the theory I heard.
is the blockade is happening to starve the maduro regime of their i mean clearly cash balance you
have any i was i mean you're the energy guy on the show i was hoping we're gonna get a
more interesting take than that to be honest i'm a little bit disappointed do you want to do like
is oil gonna pump like what are we talking about is that what you want or like that's the crazy
part is oil's cheap as fuck still yeah no i mean uh i mean i think what i mean what maduro what
chavez and maduro did to the oil gas industry in venezuela is a crime against number one the
citizens of venezuela but i think more broadly a crime against humanity because it's one of the
most oil rich nations in the world and you had a bunch of british and american oil and gas
companies like Shell, Chevron, BP were down there. They essentially got kicked out, their assets
confiscated, and Chavez and Maduro did not maintain them properly. Their energy infrastructure has
collapsed. Obviously, they can still get some oil, but it's not as robust as it should be.
I think the other big thing that really is probably forcing the issue or a material
consideration with forcing this issue is the oil and gas deposits that were found at the
to guayana which yeah that's what i was going to bring up 100 related which borders venezuela
and venezuela has been basically posturing that they're going to invade guayana to take over those
assets and so i think this is a protection for the untapped oil gas in guayana like have you
looked at on a map like it's i mean i think it's arguable whose deposits they are like it's like
basically like right on the border in the water well they were one country at one point right
it's like it's the same oil yeah like what was it with like kuwait and iraq it's like oh they were
like they uh iraq was saying that they were like cross drilling it's like they were putting their
straw and drinking their milkshake through the yeah through the border yeah um i mean it seems
very similar i mean if you look at oil reserves venezuela is still like absolutely massive in the
in the global scheme of things.
I'm pulling up Google maps here.
Yeah, Guayana.
It's crazy.
I mean, they're right on top of each other.
Yeah.
And like the Guayana
Results.
Is that how you pronounce it?
Guayana?
I don't know.
Guayana?
You know I'm very good at
pronunciations.
I don't know.
Yeah, I mean, apparently this reserve that they found on the coast of Guyana is pretty massive.
Why is their border dotted on Google Maps?
Is it because no one can agree on where the border is?
Yeah, like I said, I think part, like that western part of Guyana was Venezuela at one point, if I recall correctly.
All the borders are dots in this region.
You see, also on the Suriname side.
Yeah.
Same.
Anyway.
yeah so i imagine that's it what's to say do you think it's actually like do you think the
drugs piece is just kind of tangential to all this energy stuff uh i think it all ties together
to a certain degree i mean the drug stuff i've said it i very pissed off a lot of people on x but
I think it's justified. You have
narco-terrorists running drugs
in international waters
which is technically piracy
and the libertarians
out there saying we shouldn't have a drug war.
These people should have trials. It's like, well,
we haven't declared war.
It's like, well,
the combination of the
narco-terrorist China, whatever, they've
smuggled a ton
of fentanyl to the country over the last
couple decades and killed literally
hundreds of thousands of Americans.
I don't know what you expect people to do.
The 4D chess theory of bombing the narco boats
is that you bomb them,
and then the narco terrorists have to reshuffle and recalibrate,
and that sets off them calling each other
and moving assets and moving money,
which can make them easier to find.
That's the 4D chess theory.
I mean, it's not even that 4D.
It's pretty straightforward.
It's like 3D chess.
No, yeah.
I mean, I think it's –
Of course, if you blow them up, they're going to scramble.
I think it's all connected.
You want to stop the drugs from being imported, killing Americans,
and the oil and gas is certainly a big cherry on top
if you can get Maduro out of there and get an ally, a perceived ally,
maybe a controlled ally in Venezuela.
Yeah, I think Peter's talking about your mic, by the way,
with the high-pass filter.
Peter, shut the fuck up.
God. Yeah. I mean, I think it's probably more to do with the energy stuff.
But I don't know. I think it's definitely a messy, it's a messy situation, no matter how you cut it
on the dealing, dealing with the just droning drug boats with like zero due process. But I
understand the argument for it if we can't stop them otherwise. I did think it was interesting
that they were like critics of the administration's blowing up the boats. They're like, you should
just seize shit. And then it was like two days later, they've seized the oil tanker.
It was like right after people were like, oh, well, why don't you seize boats? And then
they filmed the whole thing in like 4K and like posted it on Twitter.
The helicopters.
yeah so i mean it's definitely all related yeah i did see anything i'm not i'm not trying to be
like a sicko fan here either a psycho fan uh sicko fan however you pronounce that but uh
i do worry like this could devolve into like gen z's vietnam if things if you escalate and you're
like forced into some well i think there's a i mean there's a decent chance for i mean he was
was supposed to also be the no war president. So a couple of things. First of all, on the boat
bombings, there's two things here. One, are we justified to bomb their boats without due process?
And the second was, there was a specific case where supposedly Hegseth blew up the boat,
and then they were floating on pieces of wood, and then he shot another, he double-tapped them,
which is, that's particularly bad.
Like that is, I don't know.
It's hard to support that.
Like they're probably going to drown anyway.
You can like, I don't know,
bring a boat up against them and arrest them if you so be it.
Or you can just leave them out there.
But I don't know, hitting the second one is kind of questionable
or even more so than that.
But I mean, I think the core of this thing,
the core of this issue is Venezuela is a relatively,
strong,
adversarial regime
in our sphere of influence
that is being backed by China.
And it's like Cold War 2.0.
We're having like a proxy war over there
for dominance over the atmosphere.
Yeah.
I'm just looking at the map.
And I think energy has a lot to do with it.
I think it has everything to do with it.
And they found right before all this started, like when did they find the Guyana reserves?
It was like right before all this shit started.
It was like last year.
It was some point in 2024, I think.
Reserves discovered.
It was 2025.
I see.
No?
Yeah.
see here the rise of the guyana super basin yeah so i think they found stuff successfully
like not successively excuse me they've they just been finding more it was much bigger right
yeah they're just finding more and more deposits or like uh
let me see
the buenos aires herald
it looks like they discovered it in
2015
but like since then they keep finding more
and more yeah it was way bigger than
they thought it was
let me see
yeah that's what I think it was
last year or two years ago.
They were like,
oh, this is actually way bigger
than we thought it was.
Christ is Lord 7,
not 1 through 6.
Christ is Lord number 7 on YouTube says,
by 2029, 2030,
start of Great Depression 2.0,
which hopefully they call it something else
because that's horrible branding.
Everything and everyone is going to tank, bro.
Then America is going to confiscate your BTC
just like they did with your gold in 1933
to help combat this depression.
all right brother or it might be a christmas miracle it could be a christmas miracle
uh sup freaks this is uh i got a lag so i can't read it 25 125 sapus some fl justin
florida justin sup freaks merry christmas state adventurous stack sats via con deals
live with god i um we also missed a pringle mac uh 21 000 sap boost
huge uh i know it's early for her right now so when i told her the time we were ripping she said
it was 5 a.m her time so thank you good morning thank you for waking up early to zap us support
the show join the live chat nothing's gonna happen buy an 80 foot flat screen smoke a little
We played some video games and watched the NFL.
We all good, bro.
Nothing to see here.
Catch the game last night?
Let's catch the game.
Do you think the Eagles are going to win the NFC East?
I haven't watched a single football game this year.
Yeah.
Great Depression 2.0.
This country's fat.
We could use a Great Depression.
Did you hear about how much weight was lost?
Lifespan increase because people were intermittent.
but now we got seed oils and glyphosates and like even if you're poor you'd get fat as yeah um
i got one more we got no the truth of the matter is marty we're living in a great depression
i think mallards does a good job of it's a silent depression explaining this better than me but um
i think he hit the nail on the head when the when the great depression happened
the dollar was still backed by gold
and the depression was priced in gold
and if you price everything in gold
right now
we're in a great depression
we're getting our fucking asses kicked
but no one realizes it which is even worse
yeah
I paid $29
for
for six chicken breasts last night
it's insane
were they good?
They work good.
Local farm.
Not every chicken breast is made the same.
No.
We made some cutlets.
I'm sure you saw me eating, scarfing some down right before we hit record.
I did.
Made some cutlets last night.
Pringle Mac, she's going to Pilates now.
Love you guys.
Merry Christmas.
Do you think she was waiting to go to Pilates until after we announced her shout out?
I'm glad we released her.
I hope not.
I hope Pilates class is punctual.
It starts on time.
She's got to get there.
still enjoy Pilates it's become my wife's favorite exercise I think that
happens like when you get to a certain age as a woman like Pilates just becomes
the go class of choice it what I observed not trying to say supposedly a lot of NFL players do Pilates what is going going on here I going to write into this a little bit but this is pretty crazy
Shooting of the MIT professor. Did you read the three body problem?
Yes. This is like the plot of the three body problem.
Yeah. Okay. So those who are unaware. Yeah.
Yeah.
The police intensified the search Wednesday for suspect in the killing of Professor Nuno
FG Loriero at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, more famously known as MIT,
two days after he was shot to death at his home outside Boston.
Loriero, a 47-year-old physicist and fusion scientist, was shot Monday night at his apartment
in Brookline, Mass.
He died at a local hospital on Tuesday.
The Norfolk District Attorney's Office said in a statement, the prosecutor's office said
homicide investigation was active and ongoing as of early afternoon wednesday and had no update
earlier they had said no suspects were in custody the investigation in mit's professor kills
killing comes as brownie okay we don't have to get the brown stuff that's i um i mean i think
the brown stuff is unrelated incredibly up it feels like the brown stuff it was politically
motivated considering yeah i mean two people were killed and one of them was
a 19 year old vice president of republicans young republicans club yeah um but um and also i don't
have the australian shooting on the list which seems like a massive false flag um but uh solution
to that is the stricter gun controls you know and stricter hate speech rules did you see they're
already doing kyc on everything on the internet in australia but they needed to be even stricter
With this particular situation, with everything else that's going on, this has kind of gone
under the radar. So I wanted to highlight it. I mean, this guy was basically, you know,
numero uno in fusion research at MIT, like top dog MIT researcher focused on fusion tech.
And it's kind of interesting, right? Because it kind of goes with the hype of quantum stuff
that we were talking about earlier. Fusion feels like it's got so much hype behind it for years.
But a couple of pieces here, right? First of all, before Bitcoin existed, you didn't really have a
strong financial incentive for mass produced cheap energy. And now with AI and the AI data centers,
the big tech companies are aligned on that too. They would love to have, and the national security
establishment, like would love to have very cheap energy for AI compute. So there's a direct
incentive for it. The second piece is, oh, does LLM speed up fusion research, right? It goes along
with all the other hype stuff around AI and bleeding edge tech and whatnot. So I don't think
it's like the most far-fetched thing to think that he was on the verge of some kind of big breakthrough.
Do I think aliens killed him, like the three-body problem? No, probably not. But like the Israelis
these kill like Iranian nuclear scientists all the fucking time.
Yeah.
And there's like a million different people with motives to kill someone who,
you know,
is working on cheap,
scalable energy.
Yeah.
So I don't think this is like a disgraced lover type of situation.
Like,
I feel like,
I feel like there's probably something more here.
Yeah.
So this is,
I mean,
apparently he was on the cusp of having like the breakthrough to make this,
and make this text reproducible and scalable.
His research on magnetized plasma dynamics,
magnetic field amplification,
and confinement and transport in fusion plasmas
helped inform the design of fusion devices
that could harness the energy of fusing plasmas,
bringing the dream of clear,
or excuse me, clean,
near limitless fusion power closer to reality.
It is suspicious.
And I saw something else.
There was another MIT,
physicist
nuclear physicist
who was
assassinated
in the 90s
or early 2000s
as well
for uncovering
a cold fusion
cover up
by the DOE
they don't want you
to have that clean
cheap energy freaks
what was that
the opposite though
was that them
hyping it
and he was
exposing it
no they were
covering up that
they had like
made some breakthrough
yeah and he exposed okay we might actually have cold fusion the doe doesn't want you to know that
dead um yeah like what like what like there has to be like somebody knows that he's on the cusp of
the breakthrough that's going to really unleash it like why like what who's just going to walk
into this house and murder this guy you think he's a multi or it could have been like big oil
and any kind of established energy people.
But yeah, I mean, like, look,
if you like listen to the administration,
if you listen to David Sachs on All In Pod
talking about this stuff,
he like talks about like this Manhattan Project.
Like we need to have better AI than China.
And a huge part of that is
that they're kicking our ass in energy.
And so like imagine we have a massive breakthrough
that maybe isn't, you know,
the fusion you read about in sci-fi books.
Like maybe it still has trade-offs or whatever.
But let's just say it brings the cost of energy down in the States, 10x or something.
Something within reach, not super extraordinary.
That's a well-worthy reason to kill somebody.
Yeah.
Well, it's funny, too.
I mean, the stakes are high.
And I saw this earlier today.
Trigger warning.
About to have Logan pull up a Curtis Yarvin tweet on the show.
Don't freak out.
Trigger.
I thought this was a...
Pretty funny, but also like highlighting something in this vein.
Let me find it.
Did you delete it?
Oh, no.
Here it is.
I'm not sure if you saw this, but China.
China.
Well, I see Bill Monroe saying it was someone was claiming it was the Iranians retaliating for the Israelis, assassinating their scientists.
I think that was the Israelis who claimed that.
Which, by the way, it could easily be the Israelis who killed them as well.
Like, I don't.
Like, you should take that one with a great assault.
Another grain of salt, not an expert in this field, but this is being reported today.
China apparently has a working prototype of an EUV lithography machine.
It was a secret lab in Shenzhen, team of former ASML engineers.
I think that's the important part.
We're going to go back to the quote tweet, reverse engineered parts.
You have to produce working chips, deep involvement in Huawei, aiming for use by 2028, 2030.
there was
Curtis Yarvin said
obviously it would be very racist to suggest
that when EUV light sources
are one of our last three technical advantages
over China, hiring Lin Nan
as head of light sources might not be the
greatest idea. So apparently
a classic case of Chinese IP
theft and espionage.
Recruits included Lin Nan
ASML's former head of
light source technology whose team
at the Chinese Academy of Sciences Shanghai
institute so they're making these breakthroughs apparently eub lithography is one of our um sort
of key advantages technological advantages and asml was just hiring chinese scientists to build this
or work on this stuff and they up and left and brought it to china
china why can't we all just get along come on come on people you sound like a
a naive pageant.
Hey, everybody.
Hi, I'm Marty Batten.
I believe in world peace.
I know we have a global audience out there.
Why are we doing this stuff?
It's like, Marty, shut up and shake your ass.
Why are we doing this?
It's also tiresome.
Is this purgatory?
Is this what purgatory is like?
We're just constantly thrown into the 24-7 news cycle,
thinking about PSYOP after PSYOP.
is Bitcoin going to $444,444?
Are we ever going to see this?
Oh, I think I told Marty already,
but I, the other day,
I did tell Marty on a 1031 call.
The other day we were eating breakfast
and I asked my oldest,
Bitcoin or gold?
And he turns to me and he goes,
gold is better.
Damn.
All right.
We got a zap.
From KD Kangaroo.
30,003 sats, palindrome boost.
First time checking live, catching live.
Appreciate you bastards.
He's probably Australian.
See, I try to do Australia and then I go Boston.
Yeah.
It's a trash London.
Accents.
Accents are my strong suit.
What is it?
Rise of lights.
uh fosters um i australian for beer i uh i just want to shout out it looks like he's gone now
but um there's like the most civil argument happening in our youtube chat
but that's christ is lord guy between him and bitcoiners arguing about if the government was
going to seize our bitcoin and then he just ends it with just kidding bro i'm wrong on all this
stuff i'm gonna go hike the dog and get to the gym y'all take care god bless and get to mass
this weekend and i just it's just great that it's just yeah it ended so simply so rare today's age
yeah david sacks has been a massive disappointment he let sdny sell the samurai bitcoin right out
from under his nose did he when he's on the blockchain he did which according to the executive
order was not supposed to happen so that is in support of nation by the southern district how do
we know that we we we can see it on chain or uh keoni he came on my show and said that's what they
did oh shit well they should have burnt it but we should have sold it all sees bitcoin should be
burned all right what are we gonna do for this christmas episode we're getting dressed we should
just we should just send it anytime bitcoin is seized we should as a government we should send
it to Satoshi's addresses so that if quantum happens, then it's just the winner gets the coin.
I like that. What are these quantum hackers going to do? Should we just be spending all
of our time trying to create a quantum computer to hack Satoshi's coins? Because we could get it.
Maybe we should just put the argument out. Expect that it's going to happen. Satoshi's coins are
going to move. They're going to get sold. Don't do anything about it. And all the while, it's us
building the quads computer to get satoshi's quads what i thought would be fun is imagine
so like jameson and sailor get their wish and they they do a hard fork and they say that you
know the old addresses can't spend anymore and then satoshi like is just sitting there just like
laughing or whatever and he just like sends multiple transactions where all the money goes
to the miners, just like incentivizing just pure chaos.
That would be kind of a fun outcome.
It would be.
They would literally have a trigger at any point where any of the old addresses could
just send huge mining fees to encourage miners to mine that chain instead.
The beautiful dynamics.
I mean, this is to be expected.
rough consensus distributed systems nobody's going to agree that's the other thought i was
having with it it's just such a dumb rabbit hole but whatever you got to keep yourself busy
um if we did a saw fork and we added quantum resistant addresses so not the freezing part
we're not freezing old old addresses we just add quantum resistant address type
and then satoshi's coins move and they get sent to a quantum resistant address
do people panic is that a good thing do they what was this was his coin stolen
or was he just upgrading yeah is he going to sell on the market
kind of crazy things to think about yeah
all right let's go enjoy our christmas week yeah seven days till christmas we're gonna have a
downward difficulty adjustment santa is bringing uh better mining conditions for miners that are
plugged in on christmas as of right now who knows after he could scream on the network
it'd fall off it'd be an even better christmas we'll find out maybe there'll be a christmas miracle
and we'll see you guys
we'll see you guys on Boxing Day
see you on Boxing Day
Omega Candle
en route
prepare
fade
fade the Omega Candle
stay on the stack sides
peace
love freaks